WEBVTT 00:00.473 --> 00:07.447 [HEATED DISCUSSION] 00:15.021 --> 00:16.156 >> "DONNYBROOK" IS MADE POSSIBLE 00:16.289 --> 00:17.223 THROUGH THE GENEROUS SUPPORT OF 00:17.357 --> 00:20.360 THE MEMBERS OF KETC. 00:25.593 --> 00:26.561 >> Charlie: THANKS FOR JOINING 00:26.695 --> 00:27.962 US FOR ANOTHER EDITION OF 00:28.096 --> 00:28.563 "DONNYBROOK." 00:28.697 --> 00:30.131 GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US AND 00:30.265 --> 00:31.733 GREAT TO HAVE OUR FRIENDS AT 00:31.866 --> 00:33.335 GATESWORTH MAKING THIS PROGRAM 00:33.468 --> 00:34.636 POSSIBLE AS THEY DO WEEK IN AND 00:34.803 --> 00:35.804 WEEK OUT. 00:35.937 --> 00:38.206 LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS SEATED 00:38.373 --> 00:39.841 AROUND THE TABLE THIS THURSDAY 00:39.974 --> 00:40.675 EVENING. 00:40.809 --> 00:42.177 THE MEDIA VETERAN HERSELF, WENDY 00:42.310 --> 00:42.811 WEISE. 00:42.944 --> 00:45.313 BILL McCLELLAN, ORIGINAL 00:45.447 --> 00:48.683 "DONNYBROOK" MEMBER AND, OF 00:48.817 --> 00:49.951 COURSE, WITH ST. LOUIS 00:50.085 --> 00:50.518 POST-DISPATCH. 00:50.652 --> 00:52.721 AND BEYOND. 00:52.954 --> 00:55.056 AND ANOTHER "DONNYBROOK" 00:55.190 --> 00:58.193 ORIGINAL AND FOUNDER, RAY 00:58.360 --> 00:59.894 HARTMANN, AND KICKING OFF 01:00.028 --> 01:03.998 TONIGHT'S SHOW, ALVIN REID FROM 01:04.132 --> 01:06.234 STLMAG.COM. 01:06.401 --> 01:08.403 AND DO YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF 01:08.536 --> 01:12.240 YOU SAW, THE CHANNEL 9 CALENDAR 01:12.374 --> 01:14.109 FOR MARCH HAS OUR PICTURES ON 01:14.242 --> 01:14.376 IT. 01:14.576 --> 01:21.116 >> Wendy: WE'RE LIKE A CENTER 01:21.249 --> 01:24.486 FOLD. 01:24.686 --> 01:26.121 >> 3655 OLIVE STREET. 01:26.354 --> 01:29.290 >> AND THE COVER OF THE ROLLING 01:29.424 --> 01:29.758 STONE. 01:29.958 --> 01:30.892 >> Charlie: ALL RIGHT, I WANT TO 01:31.025 --> 01:33.595 ASK YOU ABOUT ILLINOIS AND 01:33.762 --> 01:34.929 MISSOURI, HAVE PRIMARIES ON THE 01:35.063 --> 01:36.398 15th OF THIS MONTH AND IT 01:36.531 --> 01:37.832 WILLING INTERESTING. 01:37.966 --> 01:40.268 OF COURSE, BERNIE SANDERS WHO IS 01:40.402 --> 01:41.703 CHALLENGING SECRETARY CLINTON 01:41.836 --> 01:43.538 FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION IS 01:43.705 --> 01:45.140 GOING TO BE IN TOWN TOMORROW. 01:45.273 --> 01:48.643 AND TODAY, MITT ROMNEY, THE 01:48.777 --> 01:49.911 REPUBLICAN'S 2012 CHOICE TOOK ON 01:50.044 --> 01:51.646 AN UNPRECEDENTED FASHION, THE 01:51.813 --> 01:55.049 GUY WHO MIGHT BE THE 2016 01:55.183 --> 01:57.986 NOMINEE, DONALD TRUMP, WHO IS 01:58.119 --> 02:00.388 REALLY -- A SPEECH UNDER SALT 02:00.522 --> 02:01.656 LAKE CITY CALLING DONALD TRUMP A 02:01.790 --> 02:03.858 PHONY, A FRAUD, A CON ARTIST AND 02:03.992 --> 02:06.327 NOT EVEN A GOOD BUSINESSMAN. 02:06.461 --> 02:06.661 OUCH! 02:06.795 --> 02:08.596 WHAT DO YOU THINK, IS HE GOING 02:08.730 --> 02:10.732 TO HURT OR HEM WITH THOSE 02:10.865 --> 02:11.433 COMMUNITIES. 02:11.633 --> 02:12.700 >> LET'S SAY THAT BERNIE SANDERS 02:12.834 --> 02:15.470 OR HILLARY CLINTON SAID THE SAME 02:15.603 --> 02:16.805 THINGS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP IT 02:16.971 --> 02:19.374 WOULD REINFORCE HIS FAITH AND BE 02:19.507 --> 02:21.042 GOOD FOR THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO 02:21.176 --> 02:22.944 VOTE FOR HIM IN THE PRIMARY. 02:23.077 --> 02:25.113 SAME IS TRUE FOR MITT ROMNEY. 02:25.246 --> 02:26.548 HE HELPED DONALD TRUMP MORE THAN 02:26.681 --> 02:28.316 HE HURT HIM. 02:28.450 --> 02:30.418 HE GOT WAGGED FOUR YEARS AGO, 02:30.552 --> 02:34.055 FLAT OUT, THEY SAY HE RAN A BAD 02:34.189 --> 02:36.825 CAMPAIGN AND LOST BADLY AND NOW 02:36.991 --> 02:38.026 HE'S TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE 02:38.159 --> 02:39.294 ELSE'S CAMPAIGN? 02:39.494 --> 02:43.531 TWO, THEY, ACCORDING TO TRUMP U 02:43.665 --> 02:45.200 TRUMP, TO TRUMP ENDORSED HIM 02:45.333 --> 02:46.968 FOUR YEARS AGO, YOU CAN'T JUST 02:47.101 --> 02:48.403 TURN THE PAGES ON THAT. 02:48.536 --> 02:50.405 HE WAS NOT ALL THIS BAD FOUR 02:50.538 --> 02:53.408 YEARS AGO WHEN I NEEDED HIS 02:53.541 --> 02:55.076 ENDORSEMENT, BUT NOW HE'S 02:55.210 --> 02:55.677 TERRIBLE? 02:55.810 --> 02:57.512 HE HELPED DONALD TRUMP WAY MORE 02:57.645 --> 03:02.851 THAN HE HURT DONALD TRUMP. 03:03.051 --> 03:04.752 >> Ray: HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T HURT 03:04.919 --> 03:06.754 HIM, BUT THAT'S A GIVEN BUT THE 03:06.888 --> 03:08.823 QUESTION IS WOULD HE -- FIRST, 03:08.957 --> 03:10.291 HE WAS RIGHT, PRETTY MUCH EVERY 03:10.425 --> 03:11.759 WORD HE SAID, WHETHER HE SHOULD 03:11.893 --> 03:14.429 HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR TRUMP'S 03:14.596 --> 03:15.797 ENDORSEMENT FOUR YEARS AGO. 03:15.930 --> 03:18.066 I THINK IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN 03:18.199 --> 03:19.300 THE. 03:19.434 --> 03:22.504 THE QUESTION REALLY BECOMES DOES 03:22.704 --> 03:24.906 THE REPUBLICAN PARTY YOU KNOW, 03:25.039 --> 03:27.141 NORMAL GROUP OF THE PEOPLE WHO 03:27.275 --> 03:29.644 HAVE RUN IT FOR DECADES, DO THEY 03:29.777 --> 03:32.647 STILL HAVE ENOUGH LEFT TO 03:32.780 --> 03:33.948 DETERMINE AT THEIR CONVENTION 03:34.082 --> 03:35.416 WHO THEIR NOMINEE IS GOING TO 03:35.583 --> 03:35.750 BE? 03:35.884 --> 03:38.486 AND PEOPLE FORGET, THESE PRIMARY 03:38.620 --> 03:40.421 PROCESSES AREN'T REALLY SET UP 03:40.588 --> 03:42.123 TO BE PURE DEMOCRACY. 03:42.257 --> 03:44.225 THEY'RE THE PARTY SELECTING 03:44.392 --> 03:45.326 THEIR OWN FOLKS. 03:45.493 --> 03:47.729 I'M NOT DISCOUNTING THE FACT 03:47.862 --> 03:48.930 THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SEEMS 03:49.063 --> 03:53.268 TO BE IN A STATE OF -- NO 03:53.401 --> 03:55.303 QUESTION ABOUT IT, ALL OF MY 03:55.470 --> 03:56.538 REPUBLICAN FRIENDS ARE FLIPPED 03:56.671 --> 03:58.506 OUT ABOUT IT AND I DON'T BLAME 03:58.640 --> 04:01.376 THEM. BUT I WILL SAY ROMNEY -- 04:01.509 --> 04:03.645 WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ROMNEY'S 04:03.778 --> 04:04.879 IMPACT WILL BE IN TERMS OF 04:05.013 --> 04:07.849 HEADING THEM OFF AT CONVENTION. 04:08.049 --> 04:09.484 >> I DON'T THINK THAT ROMNEY DID 04:09.617 --> 04:10.218 MUCH AT ALL. 04:10.351 --> 04:12.987 I WAS HOME AND WATCHED THE 04:13.121 --> 04:14.622 SPEECH AND WAY TOO LITTLE TOO 04:14.756 --> 04:16.558 LATE AND HE DIDN'T SAY, ALL 04:16.724 --> 04:18.426 RIGHT, WE HAVE TO RALLY BEHIND 04:18.560 --> 04:21.095 THIS CANDIDATE. 04:21.229 --> 04:22.630 THERE'S STILL THREE CANDIDATES 04:22.764 --> 04:24.966 AND THEY'RE SPLITTING AGAINST 04:25.099 --> 04:27.402 TRUMP AND SPLITTING THE VOTES 04:27.535 --> 04:31.205 AND ROMNEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO 04:31.339 --> 04:31.873 AMELIORATE THAT. 04:32.006 --> 04:36.511 I THOUGHT HE JUST SEEMED LIKE 04:36.644 --> 04:37.512 ESTABLISHMENT GUY. 04:37.679 --> 04:38.279 I DON'T THINK -- 04:38.479 --> 04:42.116 >> Wendy: WELL, I WOULD LOVE -- 04:42.250 --> 04:45.019 THE SURE LOCK HOLMES FAN IN ME, 04:45.186 --> 04:47.722 WOULD LOVE TO THINK THIS IS A 04:47.889 --> 04:51.225 DIE BOLLICCAL GOP PLOT. 04:51.359 --> 04:53.795 THAT TRIER TRYING TO DRIVE 04:53.962 --> 04:56.531 VOTERS INTO THE TRUMP CAMP BY 04:56.664 --> 04:57.799 MAKING HIM MORE APPEALING AND 04:57.932 --> 04:59.901 THAT'S WHY THEY ROLLED OUT 05:00.034 --> 05:01.369 SOMEONE LIKE MITT ROMNEY WHO WAS 05:01.502 --> 05:02.570 SO INEFFECTIVE AS A CANDIDATE 05:02.704 --> 05:04.205 FROM THE TIME -- I MEAN, THE END 05:04.339 --> 05:06.608 OF THE FIRST DEBATE WHEN HE 05:06.774 --> 05:08.810 ACTUALLY OUT-PERFORMED 05:08.943 --> 05:11.312 EVERYONE'S EXPECTATIONS AND HAD 05:11.446 --> 05:14.415 BARACK OBAMA, WHO IS A GREAT 05:14.549 --> 05:15.683 DEBATER, HAD HIM ON THE RUN AND 05:15.817 --> 05:18.486 FROM THAT MOMENT ON, WHAT WAS 05:18.620 --> 05:21.155 HIS FAMOUS QUOTE. 05:21.289 --> 05:21.956 THE 47%? 05:22.090 --> 05:23.925 THIS IS THE GUY THEY'RE SERVING 05:24.092 --> 05:26.427 UP TO THE RED MEAT POPULACE 05:26.594 --> 05:29.430 VOTERS OF 2016? 05:29.631 --> 05:32.433 >> YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO 05:32.567 --> 05:34.335 ABOUT DONALD TRUMP IS THIS AND 05:34.469 --> 05:35.603 DONALD TRUMP IS BAD. 05:35.837 --> 05:37.505 BUT HERE'S AN EXAMPLE, YOU'RE 05:37.639 --> 05:39.107 TELLING THE PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE 05:39.240 --> 05:40.908 TIME TO GO OUT AND CAUCUS AND 05:41.042 --> 05:43.511 VOTE, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE 05:43.645 --> 05:44.212 TALKING ABOUT. 05:44.412 --> 05:46.781 >> Wendy: THE L.A. TIMES -- 05:46.981 --> 05:48.016 >> Charlie: LET'S SAY AS RAY 05:48.149 --> 05:49.884 SAYS THEY GO TO THE CONVENTION 05:50.018 --> 05:52.520 AND TRY AND MANIPULATE IT SO 05:52.654 --> 05:54.856 THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE 05:54.989 --> 05:56.824 IS THERE, THAT JUST MEANS 05:56.958 --> 05:59.127 THAT -- TRUMP WILL RUN AS HEY 05:59.293 --> 06:00.395 THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE. 06:00.528 --> 06:03.498 [SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY] 06:03.698 --> 06:06.768 >> WHEN I HEAR FOLKS WHO ARE 06:06.901 --> 06:08.836 MODERATE AND IN THE CENTER, I 06:08.970 --> 06:11.639 UNDERSTAND THAT -- I'M NOT SURE 06:11.773 --> 06:13.608 THIS WAS SCRIPTED. 06:13.741 --> 06:15.443 I THINK ROMNEY, WHATEVER YOU 06:15.576 --> 06:17.078 THINK OF MITT ROMNEY AND I 06:17.211 --> 06:20.181 DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM -- WELL, NO. 06:20.314 --> 06:22.350 I DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM, BUT I'LL 06:22.483 --> 06:24.118 SAY THIS, I THINK HE'S SINCERE. 06:24.285 --> 06:26.587 I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHAT 06:26.721 --> 06:28.823 THE TRADITIONAL MODERATE 06:28.956 --> 06:30.058 BUSINESS REPUBLICAN CONSIDERS 06:30.191 --> 06:31.259 DONALD TRUMP, LIKE A LOT OF 06:31.392 --> 06:33.695 PEOPLE ON MY SIDE DO, TO BE A 06:33.828 --> 06:35.496 PERSON WITH DICTATOR POTENTIAL. 06:35.630 --> 06:39.934 I THINK HE'S A VERY -- 06:40.134 --> 06:41.703 >> Charlie: IF THAT'S TRUE, THEN 06:41.836 --> 06:43.538 MITT ROMNEY SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD 06:43.671 --> 06:46.374 TWO FUNDRAISERS AT TRUMP'S HOME 06:46.507 --> 06:48.776 FOR USED DONALD TRUMP IN SIX 06:48.910 --> 06:50.611 STATES FOR ROBOCALLS. 06:50.812 --> 06:51.779 >> Wendy: I WOULD BE 06:51.913 --> 06:53.414 DISAPPOINTED IN THE GRAND OLD 06:53.548 --> 06:55.450 PARTY IF THEY DIDN'T THROW 06:55.583 --> 06:56.517 EVERYTHING, INCLUDING THE 06:56.784 --> 06:57.785 KITCHEN THING E SINK AT THIS 06:57.919 --> 06:58.419 GUY. 06:58.553 --> 07:00.088 HE'S BEATING THE ESTABLISH ... 07:00.221 --> 07:03.558 JEB BUSH, WHAT? 07:03.691 --> 07:04.392 $100 MILLION, GONE! 07:04.525 --> 07:06.994 AND HE -- DONALD TRUMP IS NOT 07:07.128 --> 07:10.231 SPENDING ANY MONEY AND YET HE'S 07:10.364 --> 07:12.333 STRIKING THIS CORD. 07:12.500 --> 07:13.868 NATURALLY THEY'RE COMING AT HIM 07:14.035 --> 07:17.972 WITH THE TALKING POINTS -- 07:18.106 --> 07:21.709 [SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY] 07:21.843 --> 07:24.445 IF EVERYONE FROM BEN STEIN TO 07:24.579 --> 07:27.014 JOHN McCAIN AND MITT ROMNEY 07:27.181 --> 07:28.883 USED THE EXACT SAME DESCRIPTION. 07:29.117 --> 07:30.384 >> Alvin: AND YOU SAID GRAND OLD 07:30.518 --> 07:31.819 PARTY. 07:31.986 --> 07:34.455 THE MAN, BASICALLY DIDN'T SHOUT 07:34.589 --> 07:37.592 DOWN THE GRAND OLD WIZARD, DAVID 07:37.725 --> 07:39.060 DUKE. 07:39.193 --> 07:41.329 AND WHATEVER IT IS ABOUT HIM, 07:41.496 --> 07:45.066 THIS IS NOT DICTATORSHIP, THIS 07:45.199 --> 07:50.805 IS JESSE VENTURA. 07:51.005 --> 07:53.841 >> Wendy: ANDREW JACKSON. 07:54.041 --> 07:54.609 >> Alvin: REALLY? 07:54.809 --> 07:57.011 >> Ray: I THINK MORE LIKE A 07:57.178 --> 07:59.113 GEORGE WILL COMPARED TO HUEY 07:59.280 --> 07:59.547 LONG. 07:59.747 --> 08:03.584 >> Wendy: FROM BACK TO THE 08:03.751 --> 08:04.085 FUTURE. 08:04.318 --> 08:06.220 >> ARE YOU TELLING ME YOU THINK 08:06.354 --> 08:08.556 DONALD TRUMP IS A REASONABLE 08:08.689 --> 08:12.627 CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT? 08:12.827 --> 08:13.394 >> Wendy: JOHN -- 08:13.528 --> 08:22.770 [SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY] 08:23.004 --> 08:24.005 >> LET BILL SPEAK. 08:24.205 --> 08:25.206 >> Bill: I DON'T THINK WE KNOW 08:25.339 --> 08:26.307 WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 08:26.440 --> 08:27.842 I KNOW I DON'T. 08:28.009 --> 08:29.477 I WROTE JANUARY 1st, THAT 08:29.677 --> 08:30.845 MONEY TRUMPED EVERYTHING, 08:31.012 --> 08:32.847 INCLUDING TRUMP AND I WAS I 08:32.980 --> 08:34.515 CONVINCED THAT JEB BUSH WOULD 08:34.649 --> 08:35.416 GET EVERYTHING. 08:35.583 --> 08:37.718 NO ONE SAW THIS COMING AND I 08:37.852 --> 08:39.687 THINK WE ALL LOOK A LITTLE 08:39.821 --> 08:40.655 SILLY. 08:40.855 --> 08:45.426 >> Alvin: I THOUGHT -- 08:45.626 --> 08:46.494 >> Bill: EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED 08:46.627 --> 08:48.196 WHEN WE DIDN'T SEE IT. 08:48.396 --> 08:50.031 >> Charlie: WE DIDN'T WRITE THAT 08:50.198 --> 08:52.066 COLUMN, SPEAK FOR YOURSELF? 08:52.200 --> 08:52.500 ABOUT. 08:52.733 --> 08:56.170 >> NONE OF WHOM SAW THIS COMING 08:56.304 --> 08:57.905 AND NOW -- 08:58.105 --> 09:00.274 >> Alvin: I SAID HE'LL LAST 09:00.408 --> 09:01.475 UNTIL SUPER TUESDAY AND THAT 09:01.609 --> 09:01.876 WILL BE IT. 09:02.009 --> 09:05.146 WELL, HE WON SUPER TUESDAY. 09:05.346 --> 09:07.014 >> Wendy: FIRST OF ALL, 29 YEARS 09:07.148 --> 09:12.286 ON THE SHOW -- 09:12.520 --> 09:14.689 >> BUT THIS ISN'T ABOUT 09:14.856 --> 09:16.257 PREDICTIONING, I'M TALKING 09:16.390 --> 09:17.291 ABOUT -- I DON'T WANT TO GO 09:17.425 --> 09:18.793 THROUGH THE LITANY OF THINGS 09:18.926 --> 09:19.994 THAT DONALD TRUMP IS SAYING AND 09:20.127 --> 09:21.729 DOING ABOUT MEDIA AND WHETHER 09:21.863 --> 09:22.697 IT'S BLACK, HISPANICS OR 09:22.830 --> 09:23.164 WHATEVER. 09:23.297 --> 09:24.398 I'M NOT MAKING A PREDICTION 09:24.532 --> 09:24.832 HERE. 09:24.966 --> 09:27.635 I AGREE, I THINK THE THEME OF 09:27.768 --> 09:29.437 THIS WHOLE ELECTION CYCLE TO BE 09:29.570 --> 09:33.307 AN OLD FIRE SIGN ALBUM WE HAD IN 09:33.507 --> 09:34.508 COLLEGE, WHICH IS EVERYTHING WE 09:34.642 --> 09:35.109 KNOW IT WRONG. 09:35.276 --> 09:36.410 I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MORE YOU 09:36.544 --> 09:38.246 KNOW FROM THE PAST, THE LESS YOU 09:38.412 --> 09:39.580 CAN PREDICT. 09:39.747 --> 09:41.949 I'M NOT SAYING THIS, I'M SAYING 09:42.116 --> 09:44.886 THIS GUY HAS DICTATOR POTENTIAL 09:45.019 --> 09:46.387 AND I BELIEVE THAT IN FROM THE 09:46.520 --> 09:47.822 BOTTOM OF MY HEART. 09:48.022 --> 09:48.856 >> Charlie: THE ILLINOIS PRIMARY 09:48.990 --> 09:50.758 DATE IS THE 15th OF MARCH. 09:50.892 --> 09:56.397 LET'S CONTINUE WITH YOU, BILL, 09:56.564 --> 09:57.398 ABOUT -- 09:57.598 --> 09:59.233 >> I AGREE WITH YOU, RAY. 09:59.433 --> 10:02.003 >> Charlie: YOU AGREE WITH 10:02.136 --> 10:02.403 HIM -- 10:02.536 --> 10:04.071 [SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY] 10:04.272 --> 10:05.072 >> Charlie: LET'S MOVE ALONG. 10:05.206 --> 10:08.843 BILL, I THOUGHT IT WAS A 10:08.976 --> 10:10.745 BOMBSHELL TODAY, OR MAYBE IT WAS 10:10.878 --> 10:11.879 YESTERDAY, THAT THERE'S A 10:12.013 --> 10:13.247 DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION BILL IN 10:13.381 --> 10:15.650 WASHINGTON D.C. THAT CARVES OUT 10:15.783 --> 10:17.919 ABOUT $800,000 FOR 182 ACRES FOR 10:18.052 --> 10:20.755 THE TRANSFER OF THE NATIONAL 10:20.888 --> 10:23.224 GEOSPATIAL AGENCY FROM SOUTH 10:23.357 --> 10:23.691 ST. LOUIS. 10:23.824 --> 10:24.859 IT DOESN'T SAY EXACTLY WHERE 10:24.992 --> 10:26.627 THIS IS, BUT THE PROPERTY SET 10:26.761 --> 10:29.397 ASIDE FOR THE NGA, NEAR SCOTT 10:29.530 --> 10:32.433 AIR FORCE BASE IS 182 ACRES. 10:32.566 --> 10:34.869 DOES THIS MEAN THAT ST. LOUIS' 10:35.002 --> 10:36.871 GOOSE IS COOKED AND NORTH 10:37.038 --> 10:38.839 ST. LOUIS WILL NOT BE THE SITE 10:38.973 --> 10:41.842 OF THE NGA. 10:42.043 --> 10:45.613 >> Bill: I PREDICTED THAT ON 10:45.780 --> 10:47.014 JANUARY 1st, TOO. 10:47.214 --> 10:48.416 >> Alvin: MR. KNOW IT ALL. 10:48.616 --> 10:50.351 >> Bill: I'M BATTING 500. 10:50.551 --> 10:52.086 I THINK IT'S ANOTHER BAD 10:52.253 --> 10:52.653 INDICATION. 10:52.787 --> 10:55.523 IT MAKES SENSE, I THINK, TO PUT 10:55.723 --> 10:57.191 IT NEXTS TO SCOTT AIR FORCE 10:57.325 --> 10:57.758 BASE. 10:57.892 --> 10:59.927 AND IT'S CHEAPER FOR THE 11:00.061 --> 11:04.065 GOVERNMENT AND IT'S MORE SPACE 11:04.198 --> 11:05.866 AND THEY HAVE MORE CLOUT THAT 11:06.000 --> 11:08.836 THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION. 11:09.003 --> 11:11.339 DICK DURBIN BEATS LACY CLAY AND 11:11.472 --> 11:14.442 I THOUGHT THAT LACY CLAY AND 11:14.575 --> 11:17.745 PAUL MCGEE AND THEY WOULD COME 11:17.878 --> 11:19.547 THROUGH, I THINK NOT. 11:19.680 --> 11:20.715 THE ONLY GOOD NEWS ABOUT THE 11:20.881 --> 11:22.583 CITY, I'VE BEEN WRONG ABOUT SO 11:22.717 --> 11:26.354 MUCH IN THE NEW YEAR. 11:26.554 --> 11:27.521 >> Ray: I THINK IT WOULD HAVE 11:27.655 --> 11:28.823 BEEN BETTER FOR THE REGION. 11:28.990 --> 11:30.891 AND I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH A 11:31.025 --> 11:31.826 WORD YOU JUST SAID. 11:31.959 --> 11:34.862 I THINK THE CITY IS VERY -- I 11:34.996 --> 11:36.497 DON'T THINK THIS IS JUST AN 11:36.630 --> 11:38.499 COINCIDENCE AND I THINK THAT THE 11:38.632 --> 11:41.702 CITY -- I THINK IT'S LOOKING 11:41.836 --> 11:42.703 GLOOMY FOR THE CITY. 11:42.837 --> 11:44.739 I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR 11:44.872 --> 11:45.940 THE REGION IN GENERAL BECAUSE 11:46.073 --> 11:49.777 THE CITY IS IN SUCH DIFFICULT 11:49.910 --> 11:50.644 STRAITSES BECAUSE AS YOU POINT 11:50.778 --> 11:51.779 OUT, SCOTT IS PART OF THE 11:51.912 --> 11:52.279 REGION. 11:52.413 --> 11:54.115 IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE 11:54.248 --> 11:55.216 END TIMES. 11:55.349 --> 11:56.851 JUST ANOTHER BLOW TO THE CITY AT 11:56.984 --> 11:58.853 A TIME IT DOESN'T NEED IT. 11:58.986 --> 12:01.088 BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S 12:01.222 --> 12:04.725 LOOKING -- WE'LL FIND OUT. 12:04.959 --> 12:07.194 >> Wendy: RECENT MEMORY, RECENT 12:07.361 --> 12:08.629 HISTORY TAUGHT US ANYTHING, 12:08.763 --> 12:10.398 WISHING DOESN'T MAKE IT SO. 12:10.531 --> 12:13.000 THIS IS SO FAR BEYOND 12:13.134 --> 12:13.601 COINCIDENCE. 12:13.734 --> 12:15.603 OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE GOING TO 12:15.770 --> 12:16.003 SCOTT. 12:16.237 --> 12:18.305 >> Alvin: ONCE AGAIN, YOU WANT 12:18.472 --> 12:20.141 TO ASK, LIKE WHEN THE FOOTBALL 12:20.274 --> 12:21.675 TEAM AND THAT WAS CIRCULATING 12:21.842 --> 12:23.711 YEARS AGO, WHAT'S THE PLAN B. 12:23.844 --> 12:25.379 NOW HERE WE ARE AGAIN, IT'S ON 12:25.513 --> 12:26.881 PAPER, LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING 12:27.014 --> 12:27.715 TO MOVE OVER THERE. 12:27.848 --> 12:30.951 IF YOU ASK -- IN THE PAPER AND 12:31.085 --> 12:33.454 HOLDING OUT HOPE, YOU KNOW WHAT? 12:33.587 --> 12:38.726 IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE PROACTIVE, 12:38.993 --> 12:40.528 WE GOT A PLAN FOR WHAT WE'RE 12:40.661 --> 12:42.096 GOING TO DO, WE KNOW THIS IS 12:42.229 --> 12:43.130 GOING TO HAPPEN. 12:43.297 --> 12:45.166 AND IT WILLING APRIL 1st WHEN 12:45.299 --> 12:47.435 THEY ANNOUNCE IT AND WE'LL ALL 12:47.601 --> 12:51.238 BE SAD AGAIN AND MAYBE THEY CAN 12:51.439 --> 12:53.174 BUILD THE SOCCER STADIUM WHERE 12:53.340 --> 12:56.110 PRUITT ISLAND USED TO BE. 12:56.343 --> 12:57.611 >> Charlie: MAKE NO MISTAKE, 12:57.745 --> 12:59.947 IT'S SPRAWL AND ANOTHER BLOW TO 13:00.081 --> 13:00.915 THE CITY. 13:01.048 --> 13:02.149 $2 MILLION IN THE YEAR IN THE 13:02.283 --> 13:04.652 EARNINGS TAX AND YOU DO WONDER 13:04.785 --> 13:06.921 WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION, 13:07.054 --> 13:08.055 SUPPOSEDLY INTERESTED IN, YOU 13:08.189 --> 13:09.523 KNOW, MOVING PEOPLE BACK INTO 13:09.657 --> 13:12.626 THE CITY, BECAUSE IN TERMS OF 13:12.760 --> 13:13.994 TRANSPORTATION AND OTHER 13:14.128 --> 13:16.063 MATTERS, IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE 13:16.197 --> 13:18.332 BIT INCONSISTENT FOR THE OBAMA 13:18.499 --> 13:20.134 ADMINISTRATION TO MOVE THIS -- 13:20.267 --> 13:22.770 YOU KNOW, THIS DEFENSE SYSTEM 13:22.903 --> 13:24.772 OUT INTO THE BUSHES. 13:24.905 --> 13:29.677 THE BURBS. 13:29.910 --> 13:32.646 >> Ray: A SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS. 13:32.880 --> 13:35.116 >> Charlie: IT'S NOT THE URBAN 13:35.249 --> 13:35.483 CORE. 13:35.683 --> 13:38.119 >> Wendy: BUT IT'S AMBER WAVES 13:38.252 --> 13:40.087 OF GRAIN IS WHAT IT IS. 13:40.287 --> 13:41.388 >> Ray: HE WAS THE SENATOR FOR 13:41.555 --> 13:43.023 ILLINOIS, OK. 13:43.157 --> 13:45.626 AND INTERESTINGLY, I KIND OF 13:45.793 --> 13:48.329 WONDER WHAT JAY NIXON -- HE WAS 13:48.496 --> 13:51.031 SURE PROMINENT, THIS IS A 13:51.165 --> 13:52.066 MISSOURI-ILLINOIS ISSUE AS WELL 13:52.233 --> 13:54.468 AND JAY NIXON, I THINK AROUND A 13:54.602 --> 13:56.837 BIT FOR THE RAMS' THING, HAS 13:56.971 --> 13:59.740 NOT, AT LEAST PUBLICLY, BEEN 13:59.874 --> 14:02.009 NEARLY AS ENGAGED IN KEEPING 14:02.143 --> 14:03.110 THIS ASSET -- 14:03.577 --> 14:12.253 >> Charlie: ALL RIGHT. 14:12.386 --> 14:13.787 I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR THE PAST 14:13.921 --> 14:16.724 YEAR. 14:16.857 --> 14:19.760 S, RAY, I WANT TO ASK YOU 14:19.927 --> 14:22.196 ABOUT -- GO BACK TO COLUMBIA, I 14:22.363 --> 14:24.532 KNOW THAT'S YOUR FAVORITE TOPIC. 14:24.732 --> 14:25.533 YOUR ALMA MATER. 14:25.666 --> 14:27.134 YOU'RE IN THE MIZZOU HALL OF 14:27.268 --> 14:31.405 FAME, ARE YOU NOT. 14:31.605 --> 14:32.072 >> Ray: NO. 14:32.339 --> 14:33.407 >> Charlie: YOU, I WANT TO ASK 14:33.541 --> 14:36.911 YOU ABOUT THE INTERIM VICE CLANS 14:37.044 --> 14:38.112 CHANCELLOR WHO SAID THE 14:38.279 --> 14:40.781 CONCERNED STUDENTS, 1950 WHO HAD 14:40.915 --> 14:42.750 DEMANDS ABOUT INCREASING 14:42.883 --> 14:44.952 MINORITY HIRING AMONG TEACHERS 14:45.085 --> 14:48.489 AND DIVERSITY AND WANT STATUES 14:48.622 --> 14:51.625 OF LLOYD GAINS ON CAMPUS, START 14:51.759 --> 14:53.827 SHOWING UP AT MEETINGS AND START 14:53.961 --> 14:54.762 TO COLLABORATE. 14:54.895 --> 14:58.966 WE'RE TIRED OF YOUR DEMANDS. 14:59.166 --> 14:59.800 >> HOWL ABOUT THAT. 15:00.000 --> 15:00.935 >> Ray: IN MY OLD NEWSPAPER, 15:01.068 --> 15:03.938 THEY REPORTED THAT -- AND I'M 15:04.071 --> 15:05.306 SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THE NAME OF 15:05.439 --> 15:09.076 THE FOUNDER -- ONE OF THE 15:09.210 --> 15:10.678 FOUNDERS, TOLD THEM HE'S BEEN 15:10.811 --> 15:12.746 GOING TO THE MEETINGS AND SPOKE 15:12.880 --> 15:14.915 WITH THE VICE CHANCELLOR AND 15:15.049 --> 15:18.185 THAT THE COLUMBIA, MISSOURI, 15:18.319 --> 15:19.086 MISREPORTED IN HIS MIND, 15:19.220 --> 15:20.654 ACCORDING TO IT HIM, SAYING 15:20.788 --> 15:22.856 WE'RE TIRED OF YOUR DEMANDS IN 15:23.023 --> 15:23.424 THE MEDIA. 15:23.557 --> 15:24.892 THEY WEREN'T SAYING DON'T MAKE 15:25.025 --> 15:27.494 ANY DEMANDS, ALTHOUGH THE 15:27.661 --> 15:30.164 INTERIM PRESIDENT DID SAY, 15:30.297 --> 15:30.698 CLEARLY. 15:30.831 --> 15:32.099 AND THAT'S GREAT. 15:32.266 --> 15:35.336 I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE 15:35.502 --> 15:36.570 POSITION AND SMART ONE FOR THEM 15:36.704 --> 15:37.438 TO TAKE PUBLICLY. 15:37.571 --> 15:41.408 YOU KNOW, THE STUDENTS, WHATEVER 15:41.542 --> 15:42.943 YOU THINK OF WHAT HAPPENED IN 15:43.110 --> 15:44.678 THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, HAD 15:44.845 --> 15:47.047 THERE NOT BEEN DEMANDS AND THE 15:47.181 --> 15:48.782 KIND OF ACTIVIST APPROACH, 15:48.916 --> 15:50.718 NOTHING WOULD HAVE HAPPENED AND 15:50.851 --> 15:52.353 I KNOW WHEN THERE WAS, 100 YEARS 15:52.486 --> 15:56.023 AGO AT MIZZOU, AFRICAN AMERICANS 15:56.156 --> 15:58.559 EXPRESSED A LOT OF THE SAME 15:58.692 --> 16:00.461 UNEASE HOW THEY'RE HE ACCEPTED 16:00.594 --> 16:02.863 ON CAMPUS AND THIS IS THE FIRST 16:02.997 --> 16:04.832 MOVEMENT THEY'VE EVER GOTTEN AND 16:04.965 --> 16:07.434 I'M SURE WE'D LOVE IT ALL TO 16:07.568 --> 16:11.538 BE -- NOT TO BE AN ULTIMATUM. 16:11.739 --> 16:12.673 >> Charlie: BUT DONATIONS ARE 16:12.806 --> 16:15.342 DONE AND SO IS ENROLLMENT. 16:15.542 --> 16:16.377 >> Ray: SO WHAT? 16:16.510 --> 16:18.545 IS THAT THE -- 16:18.746 --> 16:19.647 >> Charlie: SO WHAT? 16:19.847 --> 16:21.348 >> Ray: I THINK SO WHAT. 16:21.582 --> 16:22.383 >> Charlie: TURNED OFF MORE 16:22.516 --> 16:23.083 PEOPLE. 16:23.284 --> 16:23.917 >> Ray: THAT'S TOUGH. 16:24.051 --> 16:25.452 LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, WHEN 16:25.619 --> 16:27.588 BOOSTERS DO THEIR ACTIVISM, 16:27.721 --> 16:30.324 NOBODY SEEMS TO MIND IT. 16:30.557 --> 16:31.392 >> Charlie: BOOSTERS AREN'T 16:31.525 --> 16:32.860 GOING ON HUNGER STRIKES. 16:33.060 --> 16:33.994 >> Wendy: YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 16:34.128 --> 16:36.764 THE '60s, OK? 16:36.897 --> 16:41.268 SORRY, THE '7 OH, NO OFFENSE. 16:41.402 --> 16:44.238 THIS WAS KIND OF A FAR CRY WHEN 16:44.371 --> 16:46.774 YOU HEAR THAT THE GRADUATE 16:46.907 --> 16:48.208 STUDENT ON THE HUNGER STRIKE IS 16:48.342 --> 16:52.379 THE SON OF AN $8 MILLION A YEAR 16:52.513 --> 16:53.747 RAILROAD EXECUTIVE AND DOING HIS 16:53.881 --> 16:55.382 GRADUATE WORK AND IF YOU HAVE 16:55.516 --> 16:58.052 SUCH OPPRESSIVE RACIST 16:58.185 --> 16:59.219 STRUCTURE, WHY IN THE WORLD 16:59.353 --> 17:02.790 WOULD YOU SAY, WHEN YOU'RE BEING 17:02.923 --> 17:03.824 TERRORIZED. 17:04.024 --> 17:06.460 I MEAN, I DON'T THINK ANYONE 17:06.593 --> 17:12.066 REALLY BOUGHT THAT THE IOWA 17:12.232 --> 17:20.774 PARTICULAR AS. 17:20.908 --> 17:26.747 >> Alvin: WHEN WE WERE IN SCHOOL 17:26.880 --> 17:30.918 IN THE LATE '70s, OK, THE 17:31.085 --> 17:32.086 UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS [INAUDIBLE] 17:32.219 --> 17:33.554 ONE OF THE FEW COLLEGES THAT 17:33.721 --> 17:34.188 STILL DID. 17:34.355 --> 17:36.290 AND LIKE I SAY, IF YOU'RE AT THE 17:36.423 --> 17:37.424 UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS, I'M NOT 17:37.558 --> 17:40.127 SAYING YOU'RE A WITCH, BUT THESE 17:40.260 --> 17:41.695 WERE MOSTLY WHITE KID THAT'S LED 17:41.829 --> 17:43.130 THAT MISSION AND I CAN'T LOOK AT 17:43.263 --> 17:46.066 THEM AND SAY, YOU'RE FROM AN 17:46.200 --> 17:48.535 AFFLUENCE FAMILY, PROBABLY GOT 17:48.702 --> 17:48.902 MONEY. 17:49.236 --> 17:51.739 >> Wendy: DO YOU REALLY THINK 17:51.872 --> 17:54.341 THAT THE DEFEET OF HOMECOMING 17:54.475 --> 17:56.176 PARADES AND WHETHER OR NOT THE 17:56.310 --> 17:57.444 CHANCE LETTER AT THE TIME OR THE 17:57.578 --> 17:58.479 UNIVERSITY SYSTEM PRESIDENT WAS 17:58.612 --> 18:01.014 GOING TO GET OUT DURING A 18:01.148 --> 18:03.016 HOMECOMING PARADE AND DISCUSS 18:03.183 --> 18:04.418 GRIEVANCES, DOES THAT RISE TO 18:04.551 --> 18:07.254 THE LEVEL OF APARTHEID? 18:07.388 --> 18:10.124 IN MY MIND -- 18:10.324 --> 18:11.725 >> Alvin: OK, THEY DID THE 18:11.859 --> 18:13.160 PARADE THING AND IT'S A 18:13.327 --> 18:14.194 DEMONSTRATION AND IT HAPPENED. 18:14.328 --> 18:15.529 I GET THAT. 18:15.662 --> 18:16.897 THAT'S COLLEGE KIDSING ABOUT 18:17.030 --> 18:20.267 COLLEGE KIDS. 18:20.401 --> 18:23.103 I WOULD HAVE SAID, BRING THE 18:23.270 --> 18:25.038 DEMANDS AND I'LL TAKE THAT 18:25.172 --> 18:28.008 INTO -- YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATION. 18:28.142 --> 18:32.780 AND BY THE WAY, YOU HAVE A D YOU 18:32.913 --> 18:36.884 MIGHT WANTS TO DEMAND THAT YOU 18:37.050 --> 18:39.987 STUDY MORE. 18:40.187 --> 18:43.424 >> Bill: LET THE NEW 18:43.557 --> 18:43.991 PRESIDENT -- 18:44.191 --> 18:44.725 >> Wendy: IN THE INTERIM 18:44.892 --> 18:46.160 CHANCELLOR WERE THE ONES 18:46.293 --> 18:47.728 FIELDING ALL OF THESE, IN TERMS 18:47.861 --> 18:49.530 OF THE UPHEAVAL AND THE RESULT 18:49.663 --> 18:50.898 OF THE UPHEAVAL. 18:51.231 --> 18:53.000 >> Bill: I WAS A CAMPUS 18:53.133 --> 18:53.767 EDITOR -- NO, I WAS. 18:53.901 --> 18:57.204 I WANT TO SAY I WASN'T AFRICAN 18:57.371 --> 18:57.871 AMERICAN AT THE TIME. 18:58.005 --> 19:01.675 BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS 19:01.809 --> 19:05.446 THAT STUDENT ACTIVISM IS A 19:05.579 --> 19:08.015 IMPORTANT PART OF AN CAMPUS 19:08.182 --> 19:09.483 ENVIRONMENT AND FOR SOMEONE TO 19:09.616 --> 19:14.855 SAY, YOU'RE DEMANDS ARE -- 19:15.055 --> 19:17.124 >> ACCORDING TO THE 19:17.257 --> 19:18.158 ADMINISTRATORS, IF THESE 19:18.292 --> 19:20.027 STUDENTS HAD SHOWN UP AT THE 19:20.160 --> 19:21.228 MEETINGS, THEY WOULD HAVE KNOWN 19:21.361 --> 19:23.230 THAT MANY OF THEIR DEMANDS HAD 19:23.363 --> 19:25.065 BEEN ENACTED UPON. 19:25.265 --> 19:26.533 >> Ray: THE FACT OF THE MATTER 19:26.667 --> 19:30.737 IS THAT -- THAT THIS IDEA THAT 19:30.871 --> 19:32.573 SOMEHOW -- AND I DIDN'T LIKE ALL 19:32.706 --> 19:34.374 THE LIST OF THEIR DEMANDS WHEN 19:34.508 --> 19:35.776 THEY MADE THEM. 19:35.909 --> 19:37.744 MY POINT IS THIS, THEY MADE AN 19:37.878 --> 19:41.748 IMPACT AND MADE IT WITH THEIR 19:41.882 --> 19:42.416 POWER -- 19:42.616 --> 19:43.884 >> Charlie: OK, LET'S MOVE ON. 19:44.017 --> 19:44.518 WENDY WEISE. 19:44.685 --> 19:46.987 I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT A TOPIC 19:47.120 --> 19:49.857 THAT APPARENTLY IS PRETTY 19:49.990 --> 19:54.761 IMPORTANT TO GREECERS AND -- 19:54.895 --> 19:56.830 GROCERS AND CONVENIENCE STORE 19:56.964 --> 19:58.799 OWNERS, PUTTING IN COOLER CASES 19:58.932 --> 20:02.035 INSIDE OF THE STORE IN THE STATE 20:02.202 --> 20:04.805 OF MISSOURI AND ALSO GROWLERS, 20:04.972 --> 20:07.508 LIKE A SMALL KEG. 20:07.674 --> 20:10.511 YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN NOTICE, BUT 20:10.644 --> 20:12.145 YOU CAN IN COLORADO AND 20:12.279 --> 20:15.015 WISCONSIN AND THE SMALL CRAFT 20:15.182 --> 20:18.185 BREWERS SAY IF BIG BREWERS PUT 20:18.318 --> 20:20.254 THEIR REFRIGERATED CASES IN THE 20:20.387 --> 20:22.289 CONVENIENCE STORES, THAT WILL 20:22.422 --> 20:24.458 KEEP THE CRAFT BEERS OUT. 20:24.591 --> 20:26.159 WHO DO YOU STAND WITH. 20:26.360 --> 20:31.532 >> Wendy: I STAND WITH THE HEIR 20:31.665 --> 20:33.834 OF ANAANHEUSER-BUSCHE. 20:33.967 --> 20:38.438 IN EARLIES THIS UPSIDE DOWN -- 20:38.572 --> 20:42.442 DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE WORLD WE'RE 20:42.576 --> 20:44.044 LIVING IN. 20:44.211 --> 20:48.448 IF IT WAS AD AND SOME 20:48.582 --> 20:49.783 MICROBREWERIES TRYING TO HORN 20:49.917 --> 20:51.985 IN, WE WOULD ALL BE, WHAT'S 20:52.119 --> 20:55.822 WRONG WITH THOSE SUBVERSIVE 20:55.956 --> 20:56.523 MICROBREWERIES. 20:56.657 --> 20:59.526 BUT NOW THAT IT'S AB AND SOON TO 20:59.660 --> 21:01.295 BE MILLER, WE'RE ALL FOR THE 21:01.428 --> 21:03.063 LITTLE GUY, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S 21:03.196 --> 21:05.198 BILLY BUSCH. 21:05.332 --> 21:09.369 THE BREWER OF KRAFTIG. 21:09.503 --> 21:12.539 A MICROBREWER. 21:12.673 --> 21:15.609 MOST OF THE MICRO BREWERS IN THE 21:15.742 --> 21:19.046 STATE ARE AGAINST THEM FROM 21:19.179 --> 21:21.882 BEING PUSHED OUT IN THE 21:22.049 --> 21:23.984 CONVENIENCE STORES. 21:24.184 --> 21:25.252 >> Alvin: I WILL STAND WITH THE 21:25.385 --> 21:28.255 PEOPLE WHO MAKE THE BEER 21:28.422 --> 21:30.123 100-GALLONS AT A TIME. 21:30.257 --> 21:32.259 SORRY, PAY YOU A LOT OF MONEY -- 21:32.392 --> 21:33.393 COME ON IN. 21:33.527 --> 21:38.765 CRAFT BEER PEOPLE, YOU CAN GO TO 21:38.899 --> 21:40.267 FOREST PARK -- ALL THAT HAVE. 21:40.400 --> 21:42.235 IT'S ALL YOURS. 21:42.369 --> 21:43.503 BUT -- I'M SORRY. 21:43.670 --> 21:48.308 IT'S ABOUT THE FREE ENTERPRISE 21:48.442 --> 21:51.244 AND BUT THIS WHOLE BUY-IN, TO BE 21:51.378 --> 21:53.714 ABLE TO GET LIKE A CUP OF BEER 21:53.914 --> 21:56.016 OR SOME -- PUT BEER IN A THING 21:56.149 --> 21:58.118 AND TAKE IT OUT WITH YOU. 21:58.352 --> 21:59.386 >> Charlie: A COUPLE OF GALLONS. 21:59.519 --> 22:01.455 YOU CAN DO IT IN U CITY. 22:01.588 --> 22:03.824 THE ONLY PLACE IN THE STATE. 22:04.024 --> 22:05.125 >> Alvin: THAT SEEMS LIKE WHAT 22:05.258 --> 22:07.828 ARE YOU GOING DO WITH THE BEER 22:07.961 --> 22:12.799 WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE 22:12.933 --> 22:13.367 HIGHWAY. 22:13.567 --> 22:15.636 >> Charlie: IN THE E.U., THEY 22:15.769 --> 22:18.372 ALLOW THE REFRIGERATED CASES BUT 22:18.505 --> 22:20.540 30% OF THEM HAVE TO GO TO A 22:20.674 --> 22:21.842 COMPANY OTHER THAN THE ONE 22:22.009 --> 22:25.245 PAYING FOR IT. 22:25.379 --> 22:26.980 IF THE STATE -- 22:27.180 --> 22:27.981 >> Alvin: IF THE STATE SAID THAT 22:28.115 --> 22:29.883 WAS THE LAW, I DON'T THINK THAT 22:30.017 --> 22:31.518 WOULD STOP -- THEY'D STILL DO 22:31.652 --> 22:32.419 IT. 22:32.552 --> 22:35.122 IF THEY HAD 70% OF THE POOL, I 22:35.288 --> 22:43.163 THINK THEY WOULD BE HAPPY. 22:43.397 --> 22:45.098 >> Ray: I DON'T KNOW, IF YOU 22:45.232 --> 22:51.405 TOOK AWAY THE FACT THAT I -- THE 22:51.571 --> 22:54.641 CRAFT BEER AND THE BILLY BUSCHS 22:54.808 --> 22:56.276 IN THE WORLD, I DON'T UNDERSTAND 22:56.410 --> 22:57.411 WHY IT IS GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE 22:57.544 --> 22:59.312 TELLING THE CONVENIENCE STORIES 22:59.446 --> 23:00.547 WHAT KIND OF COOLERS THEY CAN 23:00.681 --> 23:00.947 HAVE. 23:01.081 --> 23:02.582 THAT DOESN'T MAKE A GREAT DEAL 23:02.716 --> 23:03.116 OF SENSE. 23:03.250 --> 23:05.552 TO ME. 23:05.686 --> 23:07.988 BUT HAVING SAID THAT, I'M 23:08.121 --> 23:09.089 ROOTING FOR THE LITTLE GUYS AT 23:09.222 --> 23:11.725 THE SAME TIME. 23:11.925 --> 23:12.659 >> Bill: BILLY BUSCH, THAT'S 23:12.793 --> 23:14.961 WHERE I STAND. 23:15.162 --> 23:17.664 >> Charlie: BY THE WAY, GOING TO 23:17.831 --> 23:19.599 BE ON MY RADIO SHOW TOMORROW FOR 23:19.733 --> 23:21.968 A SHAMELESS PLUG AND LET'S HOPE 23:22.102 --> 23:24.071 HE BRINGS HIS PRODUCT. 23:24.204 --> 23:26.907 HEY, I WANT TO ASK YOU AND AS I 23:27.040 --> 23:29.276 WORK, I'LL BE PAYING THE 1% 23:29.409 --> 23:32.112 EARNINGS TAX AND THAT ISSUE IS 23:32.245 --> 23:34.548 IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS AGAIN IN 23:34.681 --> 23:35.015 APRIL. 23:35.148 --> 23:36.983 FOR SOME REASON, UPSTATE 23:37.117 --> 23:38.752 LAWMAKERS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT 23:38.885 --> 23:39.686 IT. 23:39.820 --> 23:42.556 ALL EMPLOYEES HAVE TO PAY 1% OF 23:42.689 --> 23:46.526 THEIR SALARY TO THE CITY AND IT 23:46.660 --> 23:48.762 IT'S AT THE BALLOT BOX IN APRIL. 23:48.895 --> 23:50.297 DO YOU THINK THE LAWMAKERS ARE 23:50.430 --> 23:52.199 REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CITY 23:52.399 --> 23:53.567 OF ST. LOUIS? 23:53.767 --> 23:55.001 >> Ray: SURE THEY ARE, THEY'VE 23:55.135 --> 23:58.338 ALWAYS BEEN COMPASSIONATE ABOUT 23:58.472 --> 23:58.939 THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY. 23:59.072 --> 24:00.741 AND I'M SURE THAT WHAT WAS 24:00.874 --> 24:02.275 CONTRIBUTED THIS WEEK, NONE OF 24:02.409 --> 24:04.144 IT WILL COME THEIR WAY. 24:04.277 --> 24:06.747 NO, I WAS REALLY MUSED -- FIRST 24:06.880 --> 24:09.382 OF ALL, NO ONE LIKES ANY TAX, 24:09.516 --> 24:09.649 OK? 24:09.783 --> 24:11.118 AND IT'S GOING TO PUT THE CITY 24:11.318 --> 24:13.120 AT A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE TO 24:13.253 --> 24:14.688 THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES, WHICH 24:14.855 --> 24:17.090 IS WHY IT'S INTERESTING THAT 24:17.224 --> 24:18.258 LEGISLATORS WHO PURPORT TO 24:18.391 --> 24:19.693 REPRESENT THE SURROUNDING 24:19.826 --> 24:21.928 COUNTIES THAT BENEFIT FROM THE 24:22.062 --> 24:27.968 PROBLEMS CAUSED BY THE TAX ARE 24:28.101 --> 24:31.605 INDIGNANT WHAT IT'S DOING THO TO 24:31.838 --> 24:32.172 THEIR REGION. 24:32.305 --> 24:34.841 IT WAS ONE FROM BALLWIN, AND 24:34.975 --> 24:37.110 ANOTHER ONE -- I DON'T KNOW -- 24:37.277 --> 24:38.478 BASICALLY WORRIED ABOUT THE JOB 24:38.612 --> 24:40.847 LOSS THAT WOULD BE COMING TO 24:40.981 --> 24:41.715 THEIR CONSTITUENTS. 24:41.848 --> 24:43.350 I THINK THAT GIVEN IT'S A THIRD 24:43.483 --> 24:46.386 OF THE CITY'S BUDGET, THAT'S 24:46.520 --> 24:48.088 GENERATED BY THE CITY EARNINGS 24:48.221 --> 24:51.358 TAX. 24:51.491 --> 24:53.593 IF THEY WANT TO EXERCISE THEIR 24:53.727 --> 24:56.096 RIGHT TO BLOW IT UP, HE'S GOT A 24:56.229 --> 24:59.099 THINK TANK AND MAYBE OFFER SOME 24:59.232 --> 25:01.034 ALTERNATIVES BEFORE WE THROW THE 25:01.168 --> 25:02.636 CITY'S BUDGET -- 25:02.836 --> 25:03.804 >> Charlie: FIVE YEARSA HE WAS 25:03.937 --> 25:05.272 IN FAVOR OF A REDEVELOPMENT HE 25:05.405 --> 25:08.408 FEELS JOBS CAN MOVE BUT PROPERTY 25:08.542 --> 25:09.810 CAN'T AYE THINK HE'S WRONG ABOUT 25:09.976 --> 25:11.912 THAT AND ONE OTHER THING, AS 25:12.112 --> 25:13.413 MUCH AS IT'S NOT POPULAR, THE 25:13.547 --> 25:17.417 FACT IS THAT PEOPLE, A 25:17.551 --> 25:18.518 DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF 25:18.652 --> 25:20.287 PEOPLE, COME TO THE DOWNTOWN AND 25:20.420 --> 25:22.522 WORK AND THEY EXPECT ALL OF THE 25:22.656 --> 25:23.390 SERVICES OF THE CITY. 25:23.523 --> 25:25.959 THE POLICE AND FIRE AND THE 25:26.092 --> 25:28.228 STREETS AND THIS IS THE WAYS TO 25:28.361 --> 25:28.762 PAY FOR IT. 25:28.895 --> 25:31.765 I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT ALL OF. 25:31.965 --> 25:33.166 >> Bill: UNLESS THERE'S A WAY 25:33.300 --> 25:35.468 THAT THE COUNTY COULD HELP THE 25:35.602 --> 25:37.070 CITY'S BUDGET, YOU HAVE TO HAVE 25:37.204 --> 25:37.437 THIS. 25:37.637 --> 25:40.473 >> Alvin: I AGREE, LOOKING AT 25:40.640 --> 25:41.842 FINANCIAL DISASTER BUT I THINK 25:41.975 --> 25:43.510 THERE'S TIMES -- WE HAVE TO VOTE 25:43.643 --> 25:45.545 ON THIS EVERY FIVE YEARS. 25:45.779 --> 25:46.413 I GET THAT. 25:46.546 --> 25:49.583 BUT AT A TIME WHERE WHAT IS 0 25:49.749 --> 25:51.218 GOING ON IN THE CITY OF 25:51.351 --> 25:52.652 ST. LOUIS, IT MIGHT BE THE LAST 25:52.786 --> 25:54.688 THING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT, IS 25:54.821 --> 25:55.956 CUTTING REVENUE FROM THE CITY OF 25:56.089 --> 25:56.523 ST. LOUIS. 25:56.656 --> 25:58.024 NO MATTER WHAT WE THINK ABOUT 25:58.158 --> 26:00.026 TAXES OR WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF WE 26:00.160 --> 26:01.528 TAKE IT AWAY. 26:01.695 --> 26:05.932 IF WE TAKE IT AWAY OVER 10 YEARS 26:06.066 --> 26:07.200 DEBATE. 26:07.400 --> 26:08.168 >> Charlie: THOSE 3,000 26:08.301 --> 26:10.036 EMPLOYEES AT THE NGA ARE ALL 26:10.170 --> 26:12.105 GOING TO GET A PAY INCREASE AS 26:12.239 --> 26:15.408 SOON AS THEY MOVE TO ILLINOIS 26:15.542 --> 26:22.649 AND THAT'S -- 26:22.849 --> 26:24.951 >> Ray: THEY LIVE IN THE CITY OF 26:25.085 --> 26:26.386 ST. LOUIS, THE EARNINGS TAX 26:26.519 --> 26:27.354 FOLLOWS THEM. 26:27.554 --> 26:28.421 >> Charlie: FIRST, LET'S FIND 26:28.555 --> 26:29.990 OUT WHAT THE VIEWERS HAD TO SAY, 26:30.123 --> 26:32.025 YOU HAD TO SAY ABOUT LAST WEEK'S 26:32.158 --> 26:32.459 PROGRAM. 26:32.626 --> 26:34.027 WHEN OUR DAUGHTER WAS A GIRL 26:34.160 --> 26:36.596 SCOUT 20 YEARS AGO, I WAS MAZED 26:36.763 --> 26:38.265 HOW ANTI-MALE THEIR LEADERSHIP 26:38.398 --> 26:39.599 HAS BECOME. 26:39.733 --> 26:41.701 FROM WHAT I'VE READ IT'S ONLY 26:41.835 --> 26:42.903 GOTTEN WORSE. 26:43.069 --> 26:44.905 THE NEXT TIME KEVIN JACKSON IS 26:45.038 --> 26:47.340 ON, I WISH SOMEONE WOULD ASK HIM 26:47.474 --> 26:51.511 HOW HE HE INTENDS TO IMPROVE THE 26:51.678 --> 26:54.581 ROADS AND BRIDGES -- YOU CAN 26:54.748 --> 26:57.117 WRITE US CARE OF 3655 OLIVE 26:57.450 --> 26:57.984 STREET, ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI 26:58.118 --> 26:59.085 63108. 26:59.219 --> 27:01.955 WE ALSO LIKE THOSE EMAILS, 27:02.088 --> 27:06.393 LETTERS AT @KETC.ORG AND THOSE 27:06.526 --> 27:11.731 TWEETS AT #DONNYBROOKSTL. 27:11.865 --> 27:14.434 STAY TUNED FOR "DONNYBROOK, YOUR 27:14.567 --> 27:14.734 TURN." 27:14.901 --> 27:16.436 RAY AND WENDY WILL BE TAKING 27:16.569 --> 27:17.304 YOUR PHONE CALLS. 27:17.437 --> 27:19.039 THE REST OF US WILL SEE YOU NEXT 27:19.172 --> 27:20.707 WEEK AT THIS TIME. 27:20.840 --> 27:21.875 DON'T GO AWAY. 27:22.108 --> 27:23.176 >> "DONNYBROOK" IS MADE POSSIBLE 27:23.310 --> 27:24.377 THROUGH THE GENEROUS SUPPORT OF 27:24.511 --> 27:25.845 THE MEMBERS OF KETC.