1 00:00:00,473 --> 00:00:07,447 [HEATED DISCUSSION] 2 00:00:15,021 --> 00:00:16,156 >> "DONNYBROOK" IS MADE POSSIBLE 3 00:00:16,289 --> 00:00:17,223 THROUGH THE GENEROUS SUPPORT OF 4 00:00:17,357 --> 00:00:20,360 THE MEMBERS OF KETC. 5 00:00:25,593 --> 00:00:26,561 >> Charlie: THANKS FOR JOINING 6 00:00:26,695 --> 00:00:27,962 US FOR ANOTHER EDITION OF 7 00:00:28,096 --> 00:00:28,563 "DONNYBROOK." 8 00:00:28,697 --> 00:00:30,131 GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US AND 9 00:00:30,265 --> 00:00:31,733 GREAT TO HAVE OUR FRIENDS AT 10 00:00:31,866 --> 00:00:33,335 GATESWORTH MAKING THIS PROGRAM 11 00:00:33,468 --> 00:00:34,636 POSSIBLE AS THEY DO WEEK IN AND 12 00:00:34,803 --> 00:00:35,804 WEEK OUT. 13 00:00:35,937 --> 00:00:38,206 LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS SEATED 14 00:00:38,373 --> 00:00:39,841 AROUND THE TABLE THIS THURSDAY 15 00:00:39,974 --> 00:00:40,675 EVENING. 16 00:00:40,809 --> 00:00:42,177 THE MEDIA VETERAN HERSELF, WENDY 17 00:00:42,310 --> 00:00:42,811 WEISE. 18 00:00:42,944 --> 00:00:45,313 BILL McCLELLAN, ORIGINAL 19 00:00:45,447 --> 00:00:48,683 "DONNYBROOK" MEMBER AND, OF 20 00:00:48,817 --> 00:00:49,951 COURSE, WITH ST. LOUIS 21 00:00:50,085 --> 00:00:50,518 POST-DISPATCH. 22 00:00:50,652 --> 00:00:52,721 AND BEYOND. 23 00:00:52,954 --> 00:00:55,056 AND ANOTHER "DONNYBROOK" 24 00:00:55,190 --> 00:00:58,193 ORIGINAL AND FOUNDER, RAY 25 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,894 HARTMANN, AND KICKING OFF 26 00:01:00,028 --> 00:01:03,998 TONIGHT'S SHOW, ALVIN REID FROM 27 00:01:04,132 --> 00:01:06,234 STLMAG.COM. 28 00:01:06,401 --> 00:01:08,403 AND DO YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF 29 00:01:08,536 --> 00:01:12,240 YOU SAW, THE CHANNEL 9 CALENDAR 30 00:01:12,374 --> 00:01:14,109 FOR MARCH HAS OUR PICTURES ON 31 00:01:14,242 --> 00:01:14,376 IT. 32 00:01:14,576 --> 00:01:21,116 >> Wendy: WE'RE LIKE A CENTER 33 00:01:21,249 --> 00:01:24,486 FOLD. 34 00:01:24,686 --> 00:01:26,121 >> 3655 OLIVE STREET. 35 00:01:26,354 --> 00:01:29,290 >> AND THE COVER OF THE ROLLING 36 00:01:29,424 --> 00:01:29,758 STONE. 37 00:01:29,958 --> 00:01:30,892 >> Charlie: ALL RIGHT, I WANT TO 38 00:01:31,025 --> 00:01:33,595 ASK YOU ABOUT ILLINOIS AND 39 00:01:33,762 --> 00:01:34,929 MISSOURI, HAVE PRIMARIES ON THE 40 00:01:35,063 --> 00:01:36,398 15th OF THIS MONTH AND IT 41 00:01:36,531 --> 00:01:37,832 WILLING INTERESTING. 42 00:01:37,966 --> 00:01:40,268 OF COURSE, BERNIE SANDERS WHO IS 43 00:01:40,402 --> 00:01:41,703 CHALLENGING SECRETARY CLINTON 44 00:01:41,836 --> 00:01:43,538 FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION IS 45 00:01:43,705 --> 00:01:45,140 GOING TO BE IN TOWN TOMORROW. 46 00:01:45,273 --> 00:01:48,643 AND TODAY, MITT ROMNEY, THE 47 00:01:48,777 --> 00:01:49,911 REPUBLICAN'S 2012 CHOICE TOOK ON 48 00:01:50,044 --> 00:01:51,646 AN UNPRECEDENTED FASHION, THE 49 00:01:51,813 --> 00:01:55,049 GUY WHO MIGHT BE THE 2016 50 00:01:55,183 --> 00:01:57,986 NOMINEE, DONALD TRUMP, WHO IS 51 00:01:58,119 --> 00:02:00,388 REALLY -- A SPEECH UNDER SALT 52 00:02:00,522 --> 00:02:01,656 LAKE CITY CALLING DONALD TRUMP A 53 00:02:01,790 --> 00:02:03,858 PHONY, A FRAUD, A CON ARTIST AND 54 00:02:03,992 --> 00:02:06,327 NOT EVEN A GOOD BUSINESSMAN. 55 00:02:06,461 --> 00:02:06,661 OUCH! 56 00:02:06,795 --> 00:02:08,596 WHAT DO YOU THINK, IS HE GOING 57 00:02:08,730 --> 00:02:10,732 TO HURT OR HEM WITH THOSE 58 00:02:10,865 --> 00:02:11,433 COMMUNITIES. 59 00:02:11,633 --> 00:02:12,700 >> LET'S SAY THAT BERNIE SANDERS 60 00:02:12,834 --> 00:02:15,470 OR HILLARY CLINTON SAID THE SAME 61 00:02:15,603 --> 00:02:16,805 THINGS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP IT 62 00:02:16,971 --> 00:02:19,374 WOULD REINFORCE HIS FAITH AND BE 63 00:02:19,507 --> 00:02:21,042 GOOD FOR THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO 64 00:02:21,176 --> 00:02:22,944 VOTE FOR HIM IN THE PRIMARY. 65 00:02:23,077 --> 00:02:25,113 SAME IS TRUE FOR MITT ROMNEY. 66 00:02:25,246 --> 00:02:26,548 HE HELPED DONALD TRUMP MORE THAN 67 00:02:26,681 --> 00:02:28,316 HE HURT HIM. 68 00:02:28,450 --> 00:02:30,418 HE GOT WAGGED FOUR YEARS AGO, 69 00:02:30,552 --> 00:02:34,055 FLAT OUT, THEY SAY HE RAN A BAD 70 00:02:34,189 --> 00:02:36,825 CAMPAIGN AND LOST BADLY AND NOW 71 00:02:36,991 --> 00:02:38,026 HE'S TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE 72 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:39,294 ELSE'S CAMPAIGN? 73 00:02:39,494 --> 00:02:43,531 TWO, THEY, ACCORDING TO TRUMP U 74 00:02:43,665 --> 00:02:45,200 TRUMP, TO TRUMP ENDORSED HIM 75 00:02:45,333 --> 00:02:46,968 FOUR YEARS AGO, YOU CAN'T JUST 76 00:02:47,101 --> 00:02:48,403 TURN THE PAGES ON THAT. 77 00:02:48,536 --> 00:02:50,405 HE WAS NOT ALL THIS BAD FOUR 78 00:02:50,538 --> 00:02:53,408 YEARS AGO WHEN I NEEDED HIS 79 00:02:53,541 --> 00:02:55,076 ENDORSEMENT, BUT NOW HE'S 80 00:02:55,210 --> 00:02:55,677 TERRIBLE? 81 00:02:55,810 --> 00:02:57,512 HE HELPED DONALD TRUMP WAY MORE 82 00:02:57,645 --> 00:03:02,851 THAN HE HURT DONALD TRUMP. 83 00:03:03,051 --> 00:03:04,752 >> Ray: HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T HURT 84 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,754 HIM, BUT THAT'S A GIVEN BUT THE 85 00:03:06,888 --> 00:03:08,823 QUESTION IS WOULD HE -- FIRST, 86 00:03:08,957 --> 00:03:10,291 HE WAS RIGHT, PRETTY MUCH EVERY 87 00:03:10,425 --> 00:03:11,759 WORD HE SAID, WHETHER HE SHOULD 88 00:03:11,893 --> 00:03:14,429 HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR TRUMP'S 89 00:03:14,596 --> 00:03:15,797 ENDORSEMENT FOUR YEARS AGO. 90 00:03:15,930 --> 00:03:18,066 I THINK IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN 91 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:19,300 THE. 92 00:03:19,434 --> 00:03:22,504 THE QUESTION REALLY BECOMES DOES 93 00:03:22,704 --> 00:03:24,906 THE REPUBLICAN PARTY YOU KNOW, 94 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:27,141 NORMAL GROUP OF THE PEOPLE WHO 95 00:03:27,275 --> 00:03:29,644 HAVE RUN IT FOR DECADES, DO THEY 96 00:03:29,777 --> 00:03:32,647 STILL HAVE ENOUGH LEFT TO 97 00:03:32,780 --> 00:03:33,948 DETERMINE AT THEIR CONVENTION 98 00:03:34,082 --> 00:03:35,416 WHO THEIR NOMINEE IS GOING TO 99 00:03:35,583 --> 00:03:35,750 BE? 100 00:03:35,884 --> 00:03:38,486 AND PEOPLE FORGET, THESE PRIMARY 101 00:03:38,620 --> 00:03:40,421 PROCESSES AREN'T REALLY SET UP 102 00:03:40,588 --> 00:03:42,123 TO BE PURE DEMOCRACY. 103 00:03:42,257 --> 00:03:44,225 THEY'RE THE PARTY SELECTING 104 00:03:44,392 --> 00:03:45,326 THEIR OWN FOLKS. 105 00:03:45,493 --> 00:03:47,729 I'M NOT DISCOUNTING THE FACT 106 00:03:47,862 --> 00:03:48,930 THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SEEMS 107 00:03:49,063 --> 00:03:53,268 TO BE IN A STATE OF -- NO 108 00:03:53,401 --> 00:03:55,303 QUESTION ABOUT IT, ALL OF MY 109 00:03:55,470 --> 00:03:56,538 REPUBLICAN FRIENDS ARE FLIPPED 110 00:03:56,671 --> 00:03:58,506 OUT ABOUT IT AND I DON'T BLAME 111 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,376 THEM. BUT I WILL SAY ROMNEY -- 112 00:04:01,509 --> 00:04:03,645 WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ROMNEY'S 113 00:04:03,778 --> 00:04:04,879 IMPACT WILL BE IN TERMS OF 114 00:04:05,013 --> 00:04:07,849 HEADING THEM OFF AT CONVENTION. 115 00:04:08,049 --> 00:04:09,484 >> I DON'T THINK THAT ROMNEY DID 116 00:04:09,617 --> 00:04:10,218 MUCH AT ALL. 117 00:04:10,351 --> 00:04:12,987 I WAS HOME AND WATCHED THE 118 00:04:13,121 --> 00:04:14,622 SPEECH AND WAY TOO LITTLE TOO 119 00:04:14,756 --> 00:04:16,558 LATE AND HE DIDN'T SAY, ALL 120 00:04:16,724 --> 00:04:18,426 RIGHT, WE HAVE TO RALLY BEHIND 121 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,095 THIS CANDIDATE. 122 00:04:21,229 --> 00:04:22,630 THERE'S STILL THREE CANDIDATES 123 00:04:22,764 --> 00:04:24,966 AND THEY'RE SPLITTING AGAINST 124 00:04:25,099 --> 00:04:27,402 TRUMP AND SPLITTING THE VOTES 125 00:04:27,535 --> 00:04:31,205 AND ROMNEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO 126 00:04:31,339 --> 00:04:31,873 AMELIORATE THAT. 127 00:04:32,006 --> 00:04:36,511 I THOUGHT HE JUST SEEMED LIKE 128 00:04:36,644 --> 00:04:37,512 ESTABLISHMENT GUY. 129 00:04:37,679 --> 00:04:38,279 I DON'T THINK -- 130 00:04:38,479 --> 00:04:42,116 >> Wendy: WELL, I WOULD LOVE -- 131 00:04:42,250 --> 00:04:45,019 THE SURE LOCK HOLMES FAN IN ME, 132 00:04:45,186 --> 00:04:47,722 WOULD LOVE TO THINK THIS IS A 133 00:04:47,889 --> 00:04:51,225 DIE BOLLICCAL GOP PLOT. 134 00:04:51,359 --> 00:04:53,795 THAT TRIER TRYING TO DRIVE 135 00:04:53,962 --> 00:04:56,531 VOTERS INTO THE TRUMP CAMP BY 136 00:04:56,664 --> 00:04:57,799 MAKING HIM MORE APPEALING AND 137 00:04:57,932 --> 00:04:59,901 THAT'S WHY THEY ROLLED OUT 138 00:05:00,034 --> 00:05:01,369 SOMEONE LIKE MITT ROMNEY WHO WAS 139 00:05:01,502 --> 00:05:02,570 SO INEFFECTIVE AS A CANDIDATE 140 00:05:02,704 --> 00:05:04,205 FROM THE TIME -- I MEAN, THE END 141 00:05:04,339 --> 00:05:06,608 OF THE FIRST DEBATE WHEN HE 142 00:05:06,774 --> 00:05:08,810 ACTUALLY OUT-PERFORMED 143 00:05:08,943 --> 00:05:11,312 EVERYONE'S EXPECTATIONS AND HAD 144 00:05:11,446 --> 00:05:14,415 BARACK OBAMA, WHO IS A GREAT 145 00:05:14,549 --> 00:05:15,683 DEBATER, HAD HIM ON THE RUN AND 146 00:05:15,817 --> 00:05:18,486 FROM THAT MOMENT ON, WHAT WAS 147 00:05:18,620 --> 00:05:21,155 HIS FAMOUS QUOTE. 148 00:05:21,289 --> 00:05:21,956 THE 47%? 149 00:05:22,090 --> 00:05:23,925 THIS IS THE GUY THEY'RE SERVING 150 00:05:24,092 --> 00:05:26,427 UP TO THE RED MEAT POPULACE 151 00:05:26,594 --> 00:05:29,430 VOTERS OF 2016? 152 00:05:29,631 --> 00:05:32,433 >> YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO 153 00:05:32,567 --> 00:05:34,335 ABOUT DONALD TRUMP IS THIS AND 154 00:05:34,469 --> 00:05:35,603 DONALD TRUMP IS BAD. 155 00:05:35,837 --> 00:05:37,505 BUT HERE'S AN EXAMPLE, YOU'RE 156 00:05:37,639 --> 00:05:39,107 TELLING THE PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE 157 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,908 TIME TO GO OUT AND CAUCUS AND 158 00:05:41,042 --> 00:05:43,511 VOTE, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE 159 00:05:43,645 --> 00:05:44,212 TALKING ABOUT. 160 00:05:44,412 --> 00:05:46,781 >> Wendy: THE L.A. TIMES -- 161 00:05:46,981 --> 00:05:48,016 >> Charlie: LET'S SAY AS RAY 162 00:05:48,149 --> 00:05:49,884 SAYS THEY GO TO THE CONVENTION 163 00:05:50,018 --> 00:05:52,520 AND TRY AND MANIPULATE IT SO 164 00:05:52,654 --> 00:05:54,856 THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE 165 00:05:54,989 --> 00:05:56,824 IS THERE, THAT JUST MEANS 166 00:05:56,958 --> 00:05:59,127 THAT -- TRUMP WILL RUN AS HEY 167 00:05:59,293 --> 00:06:00,395 THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE. 168 00:06:00,528 --> 00:06:03,498 [SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY] 169 00:06:03,698 --> 00:06:06,768 >> WHEN I HEAR FOLKS WHO ARE 170 00:06:06,901 --> 00:06:08,836 MODERATE AND IN THE CENTER, I 171 00:06:08,970 --> 00:06:11,639 UNDERSTAND THAT -- I'M NOT SURE 172 00:06:11,773 --> 00:06:13,608 THIS WAS SCRIPTED. 173 00:06:13,741 --> 00:06:15,443 I THINK ROMNEY, WHATEVER YOU 174 00:06:15,576 --> 00:06:17,078 THINK OF MITT ROMNEY AND I 175 00:06:17,211 --> 00:06:20,181 DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM -- WELL, NO. 176 00:06:20,314 --> 00:06:22,350 I DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM, BUT I'LL 177 00:06:22,483 --> 00:06:24,118 SAY THIS, I THINK HE'S SINCERE. 178 00:06:24,285 --> 00:06:26,587 I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHAT 179 00:06:26,721 --> 00:06:28,823 THE TRADITIONAL MODERATE 180 00:06:28,956 --> 00:06:30,058 BUSINESS REPUBLICAN CONSIDERS 181 00:06:30,191 --> 00:06:31,259 DONALD TRUMP, LIKE A LOT OF 182 00:06:31,392 --> 00:06:33,695 PEOPLE ON MY SIDE DO, TO BE A 183 00:06:33,828 --> 00:06:35,496 PERSON WITH DICTATOR POTENTIAL. 184 00:06:35,630 --> 00:06:39,934 I THINK HE'S A VERY -- 185 00:06:40,134 --> 00:06:41,703 >> Charlie: IF THAT'S TRUE, THEN 186 00:06:41,836 --> 00:06:43,538 MITT ROMNEY SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD 187 00:06:43,671 --> 00:06:46,374 TWO FUNDRAISERS AT TRUMP'S HOME 188 00:06:46,507 --> 00:06:48,776 FOR USED DONALD TRUMP IN SIX 189 00:06:48,910 --> 00:06:50,611 STATES FOR ROBOCALLS. 190 00:06:50,812 --> 00:06:51,779 >> Wendy: I WOULD BE 191 00:06:51,913 --> 00:06:53,414 DISAPPOINTED IN THE GRAND OLD 192 00:06:53,548 --> 00:06:55,450 PARTY IF THEY DIDN'T THROW 193 00:06:55,583 --> 00:06:56,517 EVERYTHING, INCLUDING THE 194 00:06:56,784 --> 00:06:57,785 KITCHEN THING E SINK AT THIS 195 00:06:57,919 --> 00:06:58,419 GUY. 196 00:06:58,553 --> 00:07:00,088 HE'S BEATING THE ESTABLISH ... 197 00:07:00,221 --> 00:07:03,558 JEB BUSH, WHAT? 198 00:07:03,691 --> 00:07:04,392 $100 MILLION, GONE! 199 00:07:04,525 --> 00:07:06,994 AND HE -- DONALD TRUMP IS NOT 200 00:07:07,128 --> 00:07:10,231 SPENDING ANY MONEY AND YET HE'S 201 00:07:10,364 --> 00:07:12,333 STRIKING THIS CORD. 202 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:13,868 NATURALLY THEY'RE COMING AT HIM 203 00:07:14,035 --> 00:07:17,972 WITH THE TALKING POINTS -- 204 00:07:18,106 --> 00:07:21,709 [SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY] 205 00:07:21,843 --> 00:07:24,445 IF EVERYONE FROM BEN STEIN TO 206 00:07:24,579 --> 00:07:27,014 JOHN McCAIN AND MITT ROMNEY 207 00:07:27,181 --> 00:07:28,883 USED THE EXACT SAME DESCRIPTION. 208 00:07:29,117 --> 00:07:30,384 >> Alvin: AND YOU SAID GRAND OLD 209 00:07:30,518 --> 00:07:31,819 PARTY. 210 00:07:31,986 --> 00:07:34,455 THE MAN, BASICALLY DIDN'T SHOUT 211 00:07:34,589 --> 00:07:37,592 DOWN THE GRAND OLD WIZARD, DAVID 212 00:07:37,725 --> 00:07:39,060 DUKE. 213 00:07:39,193 --> 00:07:41,329 AND WHATEVER IT IS ABOUT HIM, 214 00:07:41,496 --> 00:07:45,066 THIS IS NOT DICTATORSHIP, THIS 215 00:07:45,199 --> 00:07:50,805 IS JESSE VENTURA. 216 00:07:51,005 --> 00:07:53,841 >> Wendy: ANDREW JACKSON. 217 00:07:54,041 --> 00:07:54,609 >> Alvin: REALLY? 218 00:07:54,809 --> 00:07:57,011 >> Ray: I THINK MORE LIKE A 219 00:07:57,178 --> 00:07:59,113 GEORGE WILL COMPARED TO HUEY 220 00:07:59,280 --> 00:07:59,547 LONG. 221 00:07:59,747 --> 00:08:03,584 >> Wendy: FROM BACK TO THE 222 00:08:03,751 --> 00:08:04,085 FUTURE. 223 00:08:04,318 --> 00:08:06,220 >> ARE YOU TELLING ME YOU THINK 224 00:08:06,354 --> 00:08:08,556 DONALD TRUMP IS A REASONABLE 225 00:08:08,689 --> 00:08:12,627 CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT? 226 00:08:12,827 --> 00:08:13,394 >> Wendy: JOHN -- 227 00:08:13,528 --> 00:08:22,770 [SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY] 228 00:08:23,004 --> 00:08:24,005 >> LET BILL SPEAK. 229 00:08:24,205 --> 00:08:25,206 >> Bill: I DON'T THINK WE KNOW 230 00:08:25,339 --> 00:08:26,307 WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 231 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:27,842 I KNOW I DON'T. 232 00:08:28,009 --> 00:08:29,477 I WROTE JANUARY 1st, THAT 233 00:08:29,677 --> 00:08:30,845 MONEY TRUMPED EVERYTHING, 234 00:08:31,012 --> 00:08:32,847 INCLUDING TRUMP AND I WAS I 235 00:08:32,980 --> 00:08:34,515 CONVINCED THAT JEB BUSH WOULD 236 00:08:34,649 --> 00:08:35,416 GET EVERYTHING. 237 00:08:35,583 --> 00:08:37,718 NO ONE SAW THIS COMING AND I 238 00:08:37,852 --> 00:08:39,687 THINK WE ALL LOOK A LITTLE 239 00:08:39,821 --> 00:08:40,655 SILLY. 240 00:08:40,855 --> 00:08:45,426 >> Alvin: I THOUGHT -- 241 00:08:45,626 --> 00:08:46,494 >> Bill: EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED 242 00:08:46,627 --> 00:08:48,196 WHEN WE DIDN'T SEE IT. 243 00:08:48,396 --> 00:08:50,031 >> Charlie: WE DIDN'T WRITE THAT 244 00:08:50,198 --> 00:08:52,066 COLUMN, SPEAK FOR YOURSELF? 245 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:52,500 ABOUT. 246 00:08:52,733 --> 00:08:56,170 >> NONE OF WHOM SAW THIS COMING 247 00:08:56,304 --> 00:08:57,905 AND NOW -- 248 00:08:58,105 --> 00:09:00,274 >> Alvin: I SAID HE'LL LAST 249 00:09:00,408 --> 00:09:01,475 UNTIL SUPER TUESDAY AND THAT 250 00:09:01,609 --> 00:09:01,876 WILL BE IT. 251 00:09:02,009 --> 00:09:05,146 WELL, HE WON SUPER TUESDAY. 252 00:09:05,346 --> 00:09:07,014 >> Wendy: FIRST OF ALL, 29 YEARS 253 00:09:07,148 --> 00:09:12,286 ON THE SHOW -- 254 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,689 >> BUT THIS ISN'T ABOUT 255 00:09:14,856 --> 00:09:16,257 PREDICTIONING, I'M TALKING 256 00:09:16,390 --> 00:09:17,291 ABOUT -- I DON'T WANT TO GO 257 00:09:17,425 --> 00:09:18,793 THROUGH THE LITANY OF THINGS 258 00:09:18,926 --> 00:09:19,994 THAT DONALD TRUMP IS SAYING AND 259 00:09:20,127 --> 00:09:21,729 DOING ABOUT MEDIA AND WHETHER 260 00:09:21,863 --> 00:09:22,697 IT'S BLACK, HISPANICS OR 261 00:09:22,830 --> 00:09:23,164 WHATEVER. 262 00:09:23,297 --> 00:09:24,398 I'M NOT MAKING A PREDICTION 263 00:09:24,532 --> 00:09:24,832 HERE. 264 00:09:24,966 --> 00:09:27,635 I AGREE, I THINK THE THEME OF 265 00:09:27,768 --> 00:09:29,437 THIS WHOLE ELECTION CYCLE TO BE 266 00:09:29,570 --> 00:09:33,307 AN OLD FIRE SIGN ALBUM WE HAD IN 267 00:09:33,507 --> 00:09:34,508 COLLEGE, WHICH IS EVERYTHING WE 268 00:09:34,642 --> 00:09:35,109 KNOW IT WRONG. 269 00:09:35,276 --> 00:09:36,410 I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MORE YOU 270 00:09:36,544 --> 00:09:38,246 KNOW FROM THE PAST, THE LESS YOU 271 00:09:38,412 --> 00:09:39,580 CAN PREDICT. 272 00:09:39,747 --> 00:09:41,949 I'M NOT SAYING THIS, I'M SAYING 273 00:09:42,116 --> 00:09:44,886 THIS GUY HAS DICTATOR POTENTIAL 274 00:09:45,019 --> 00:09:46,387 AND I BELIEVE THAT IN FROM THE 275 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:47,822 BOTTOM OF MY HEART. 276 00:09:48,022 --> 00:09:48,856 >> Charlie: THE ILLINOIS PRIMARY 277 00:09:48,990 --> 00:09:50,758 DATE IS THE 15th OF MARCH. 278 00:09:50,892 --> 00:09:56,397 LET'S CONTINUE WITH YOU, BILL, 279 00:09:56,564 --> 00:09:57,398 ABOUT -- 280 00:09:57,598 --> 00:09:59,233 >> I AGREE WITH YOU, RAY. 281 00:09:59,433 --> 00:10:02,003 >> Charlie: YOU AGREE WITH 282 00:10:02,136 --> 00:10:02,403 HIM -- 283 00:10:02,536 --> 00:10:04,071 [SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY] 284 00:10:04,272 --> 00:10:05,072 >> Charlie: LET'S MOVE ALONG. 285 00:10:05,206 --> 00:10:08,843 BILL, I THOUGHT IT WAS A 286 00:10:08,976 --> 00:10:10,745 BOMBSHELL TODAY, OR MAYBE IT WAS 287 00:10:10,878 --> 00:10:11,879 YESTERDAY, THAT THERE'S A 288 00:10:12,013 --> 00:10:13,247 DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION BILL IN 289 00:10:13,381 --> 00:10:15,650 WASHINGTON D.C. THAT CARVES OUT 290 00:10:15,783 --> 00:10:17,919 ABOUT $800,000 FOR 182 ACRES FOR 291 00:10:18,052 --> 00:10:20,755 THE TRANSFER OF THE NATIONAL 292 00:10:20,888 --> 00:10:23,224 GEOSPATIAL AGENCY FROM SOUTH 293 00:10:23,357 --> 00:10:23,691 ST. LOUIS. 294 00:10:23,824 --> 00:10:24,859 IT DOESN'T SAY EXACTLY WHERE 295 00:10:24,992 --> 00:10:26,627 THIS IS, BUT THE PROPERTY SET 296 00:10:26,761 --> 00:10:29,397 ASIDE FOR THE NGA, NEAR SCOTT 297 00:10:29,530 --> 00:10:32,433 AIR FORCE BASE IS 182 ACRES. 298 00:10:32,566 --> 00:10:34,869 DOES THIS MEAN THAT ST. LOUIS' 299 00:10:35,002 --> 00:10:36,871 GOOSE IS COOKED AND NORTH 300 00:10:37,038 --> 00:10:38,839 ST. LOUIS WILL NOT BE THE SITE 301 00:10:38,973 --> 00:10:41,842 OF THE NGA. 302 00:10:42,043 --> 00:10:45,613 >> Bill: I PREDICTED THAT ON 303 00:10:45,780 --> 00:10:47,014 JANUARY 1st, TOO. 304 00:10:47,214 --> 00:10:48,416 >> Alvin: MR. KNOW IT ALL. 305 00:10:48,616 --> 00:10:50,351 >> Bill: I'M BATTING 500. 306 00:10:50,551 --> 00:10:52,086 I THINK IT'S ANOTHER BAD 307 00:10:52,253 --> 00:10:52,653 INDICATION. 308 00:10:52,787 --> 00:10:55,523 IT MAKES SENSE, I THINK, TO PUT 309 00:10:55,723 --> 00:10:57,191 IT NEXTS TO SCOTT AIR FORCE 310 00:10:57,325 --> 00:10:57,758 BASE. 311 00:10:57,892 --> 00:10:59,927 AND IT'S CHEAPER FOR THE 312 00:11:00,061 --> 00:11:04,065 GOVERNMENT AND IT'S MORE SPACE 313 00:11:04,198 --> 00:11:05,866 AND THEY HAVE MORE CLOUT THAT 314 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,836 THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION. 315 00:11:09,003 --> 00:11:11,339 DICK DURBIN BEATS LACY CLAY AND 316 00:11:11,472 --> 00:11:14,442 I THOUGHT THAT LACY CLAY AND 317 00:11:14,575 --> 00:11:17,745 PAUL MCGEE AND THEY WOULD COME 318 00:11:17,878 --> 00:11:19,547 THROUGH, I THINK NOT. 319 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:20,715 THE ONLY GOOD NEWS ABOUT THE 320 00:11:20,881 --> 00:11:22,583 CITY, I'VE BEEN WRONG ABOUT SO 321 00:11:22,717 --> 00:11:26,354 MUCH IN THE NEW YEAR. 322 00:11:26,554 --> 00:11:27,521 >> Ray: I THINK IT WOULD HAVE 323 00:11:27,655 --> 00:11:28,823 BEEN BETTER FOR THE REGION. 324 00:11:28,990 --> 00:11:30,891 AND I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH A 325 00:11:31,025 --> 00:11:31,826 WORD YOU JUST SAID. 326 00:11:31,959 --> 00:11:34,862 I THINK THE CITY IS VERY -- I 327 00:11:34,996 --> 00:11:36,497 DON'T THINK THIS IS JUST AN 328 00:11:36,630 --> 00:11:38,499 COINCIDENCE AND I THINK THAT THE 329 00:11:38,632 --> 00:11:41,702 CITY -- I THINK IT'S LOOKING 330 00:11:41,836 --> 00:11:42,703 GLOOMY FOR THE CITY. 331 00:11:42,837 --> 00:11:44,739 I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR 332 00:11:44,872 --> 00:11:45,940 THE REGION IN GENERAL BECAUSE 333 00:11:46,073 --> 00:11:49,777 THE CITY IS IN SUCH DIFFICULT 334 00:11:49,910 --> 00:11:50,644 STRAITSES BECAUSE AS YOU POINT 335 00:11:50,778 --> 00:11:51,779 OUT, SCOTT IS PART OF THE 336 00:11:51,912 --> 00:11:52,279 REGION. 337 00:11:52,413 --> 00:11:54,115 IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE 338 00:11:54,248 --> 00:11:55,216 END TIMES. 339 00:11:55,349 --> 00:11:56,851 JUST ANOTHER BLOW TO THE CITY AT 340 00:11:56,984 --> 00:11:58,853 A TIME IT DOESN'T NEED IT. 341 00:11:58,986 --> 00:12:01,088 BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S 342 00:12:01,222 --> 00:12:04,725 LOOKING -- WE'LL FIND OUT. 343 00:12:04,959 --> 00:12:07,194 >> Wendy: RECENT MEMORY, RECENT 344 00:12:07,361 --> 00:12:08,629 HISTORY TAUGHT US ANYTHING, 345 00:12:08,763 --> 00:12:10,398 WISHING DOESN'T MAKE IT SO. 346 00:12:10,531 --> 00:12:13,000 THIS IS SO FAR BEYOND 347 00:12:13,134 --> 00:12:13,601 COINCIDENCE. 348 00:12:13,734 --> 00:12:15,603 OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE GOING TO 349 00:12:15,770 --> 00:12:16,003 SCOTT. 350 00:12:16,237 --> 00:12:18,305 >> Alvin: ONCE AGAIN, YOU WANT 351 00:12:18,472 --> 00:12:20,141 TO ASK, LIKE WHEN THE FOOTBALL 352 00:12:20,274 --> 00:12:21,675 TEAM AND THAT WAS CIRCULATING 353 00:12:21,842 --> 00:12:23,711 YEARS AGO, WHAT'S THE PLAN B. 354 00:12:23,844 --> 00:12:25,379 NOW HERE WE ARE AGAIN, IT'S ON 355 00:12:25,513 --> 00:12:26,881 PAPER, LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING 356 00:12:27,014 --> 00:12:27,715 TO MOVE OVER THERE. 357 00:12:27,848 --> 00:12:30,951 IF YOU ASK -- IN THE PAPER AND 358 00:12:31,085 --> 00:12:33,454 HOLDING OUT HOPE, YOU KNOW WHAT? 359 00:12:33,587 --> 00:12:38,726 IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE PROACTIVE, 360 00:12:38,993 --> 00:12:40,528 WE GOT A PLAN FOR WHAT WE'RE 361 00:12:40,661 --> 00:12:42,096 GOING TO DO, WE KNOW THIS IS 362 00:12:42,229 --> 00:12:43,130 GOING TO HAPPEN. 363 00:12:43,297 --> 00:12:45,166 AND IT WILLING APRIL 1st WHEN 364 00:12:45,299 --> 00:12:47,435 THEY ANNOUNCE IT AND WE'LL ALL 365 00:12:47,601 --> 00:12:51,238 BE SAD AGAIN AND MAYBE THEY CAN 366 00:12:51,439 --> 00:12:53,174 BUILD THE SOCCER STADIUM WHERE 367 00:12:53,340 --> 00:12:56,110 PRUITT ISLAND USED TO BE. 368 00:12:56,343 --> 00:12:57,611 >> Charlie: MAKE NO MISTAKE, 369 00:12:57,745 --> 00:12:59,947 IT'S SPRAWL AND ANOTHER BLOW TO 370 00:13:00,081 --> 00:13:00,915 THE CITY. 371 00:13:01,048 --> 00:13:02,149 $2 MILLION IN THE YEAR IN THE 372 00:13:02,283 --> 00:13:04,652 EARNINGS TAX AND YOU DO WONDER 373 00:13:04,785 --> 00:13:06,921 WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION, 374 00:13:07,054 --> 00:13:08,055 SUPPOSEDLY INTERESTED IN, YOU 375 00:13:08,189 --> 00:13:09,523 KNOW, MOVING PEOPLE BACK INTO 376 00:13:09,657 --> 00:13:12,626 THE CITY, BECAUSE IN TERMS OF 377 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:13,994 TRANSPORTATION AND OTHER 378 00:13:14,128 --> 00:13:16,063 MATTERS, IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE 379 00:13:16,197 --> 00:13:18,332 BIT INCONSISTENT FOR THE OBAMA 380 00:13:18,499 --> 00:13:20,134 ADMINISTRATION TO MOVE THIS -- 381 00:13:20,267 --> 00:13:22,770 YOU KNOW, THIS DEFENSE SYSTEM 382 00:13:22,903 --> 00:13:24,772 OUT INTO THE BUSHES. 383 00:13:24,905 --> 00:13:29,677 THE BURBS. 384 00:13:29,910 --> 00:13:32,646 >> Ray: A SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS. 385 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,116 >> Charlie: IT'S NOT THE URBAN 386 00:13:35,249 --> 00:13:35,483 CORE. 387 00:13:35,683 --> 00:13:38,119 >> Wendy: BUT IT'S AMBER WAVES 388 00:13:38,252 --> 00:13:40,087 OF GRAIN IS WHAT IT IS. 389 00:13:40,287 --> 00:13:41,388 >> Ray: HE WAS THE SENATOR FOR 390 00:13:41,555 --> 00:13:43,023 ILLINOIS, OK. 391 00:13:43,157 --> 00:13:45,626 AND INTERESTINGLY, I KIND OF 392 00:13:45,793 --> 00:13:48,329 WONDER WHAT JAY NIXON -- HE WAS 393 00:13:48,496 --> 00:13:51,031 SURE PROMINENT, THIS IS A 394 00:13:51,165 --> 00:13:52,066 MISSOURI-ILLINOIS ISSUE AS WELL 395 00:13:52,233 --> 00:13:54,468 AND JAY NIXON, I THINK AROUND A 396 00:13:54,602 --> 00:13:56,837 BIT FOR THE RAMS' THING, HAS 397 00:13:56,971 --> 00:13:59,740 NOT, AT LEAST PUBLICLY, BEEN 398 00:13:59,874 --> 00:14:02,009 NEARLY AS ENGAGED IN KEEPING 399 00:14:02,143 --> 00:14:03,110 THIS ASSET -- 400 00:14:03,577 --> 00:14:12,253 >> Charlie: ALL RIGHT. 401 00:14:12,386 --> 00:14:13,787 I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR THE PAST 402 00:14:13,921 --> 00:14:16,724 YEAR. 403 00:14:16,857 --> 00:14:19,760 S, RAY, I WANT TO ASK YOU 404 00:14:19,927 --> 00:14:22,196 ABOUT -- GO BACK TO COLUMBIA, I 405 00:14:22,363 --> 00:14:24,532 KNOW THAT'S YOUR FAVORITE TOPIC. 406 00:14:24,732 --> 00:14:25,533 YOUR ALMA MATER. 407 00:14:25,666 --> 00:14:27,134 YOU'RE IN THE MIZZOU HALL OF 408 00:14:27,268 --> 00:14:31,405 FAME, ARE YOU NOT. 409 00:14:31,605 --> 00:14:32,072 >> Ray: NO. 410 00:14:32,339 --> 00:14:33,407 >> Charlie: YOU, I WANT TO ASK 411 00:14:33,541 --> 00:14:36,911 YOU ABOUT THE INTERIM VICE CLANS 412 00:14:37,044 --> 00:14:38,112 CHANCELLOR WHO SAID THE 413 00:14:38,279 --> 00:14:40,781 CONCERNED STUDENTS, 1950 WHO HAD 414 00:14:40,915 --> 00:14:42,750 DEMANDS ABOUT INCREASING 415 00:14:42,883 --> 00:14:44,952 MINORITY HIRING AMONG TEACHERS 416 00:14:45,085 --> 00:14:48,489 AND DIVERSITY AND WANT STATUES 417 00:14:48,622 --> 00:14:51,625 OF LLOYD GAINS ON CAMPUS, START 418 00:14:51,759 --> 00:14:53,827 SHOWING UP AT MEETINGS AND START 419 00:14:53,961 --> 00:14:54,762 TO COLLABORATE. 420 00:14:54,895 --> 00:14:58,966 WE'RE TIRED OF YOUR DEMANDS. 421 00:14:59,166 --> 00:14:59,800 >> HOWL ABOUT THAT. 422 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:00,935 >> Ray: IN MY OLD NEWSPAPER, 423 00:15:01,068 --> 00:15:03,938 THEY REPORTED THAT -- AND I'M 424 00:15:04,071 --> 00:15:05,306 SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THE NAME OF 425 00:15:05,439 --> 00:15:09,076 THE FOUNDER -- ONE OF THE 426 00:15:09,210 --> 00:15:10,678 FOUNDERS, TOLD THEM HE'S BEEN 427 00:15:10,811 --> 00:15:12,746 GOING TO THE MEETINGS AND SPOKE 428 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,915 WITH THE VICE CHANCELLOR AND 429 00:15:15,049 --> 00:15:18,185 THAT THE COLUMBIA, MISSOURI, 430 00:15:18,319 --> 00:15:19,086 MISREPORTED IN HIS MIND, 431 00:15:19,220 --> 00:15:20,654 ACCORDING TO IT HIM, SAYING 432 00:15:20,788 --> 00:15:22,856 WE'RE TIRED OF YOUR DEMANDS IN 433 00:15:23,023 --> 00:15:23,424 THE MEDIA. 434 00:15:23,557 --> 00:15:24,892 THEY WEREN'T SAYING DON'T MAKE 435 00:15:25,025 --> 00:15:27,494 ANY DEMANDS, ALTHOUGH THE 436 00:15:27,661 --> 00:15:30,164 INTERIM PRESIDENT DID SAY, 437 00:15:30,297 --> 00:15:30,698 CLEARLY. 438 00:15:30,831 --> 00:15:32,099 AND THAT'S GREAT. 439 00:15:32,266 --> 00:15:35,336 I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE 440 00:15:35,502 --> 00:15:36,570 POSITION AND SMART ONE FOR THEM 441 00:15:36,704 --> 00:15:37,438 TO TAKE PUBLICLY. 442 00:15:37,571 --> 00:15:41,408 YOU KNOW, THE STUDENTS, WHATEVER 443 00:15:41,542 --> 00:15:42,943 YOU THINK OF WHAT HAPPENED IN 444 00:15:43,110 --> 00:15:44,678 THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, HAD 445 00:15:44,845 --> 00:15:47,047 THERE NOT BEEN DEMANDS AND THE 446 00:15:47,181 --> 00:15:48,782 KIND OF ACTIVIST APPROACH, 447 00:15:48,916 --> 00:15:50,718 NOTHING WOULD HAVE HAPPENED AND 448 00:15:50,851 --> 00:15:52,353 I KNOW WHEN THERE WAS, 100 YEARS 449 00:15:52,486 --> 00:15:56,023 AGO AT MIZZOU, AFRICAN AMERICANS 450 00:15:56,156 --> 00:15:58,559 EXPRESSED A LOT OF THE SAME 451 00:15:58,692 --> 00:16:00,461 UNEASE HOW THEY'RE HE ACCEPTED 452 00:16:00,594 --> 00:16:02,863 ON CAMPUS AND THIS IS THE FIRST 453 00:16:02,997 --> 00:16:04,832 MOVEMENT THEY'VE EVER GOTTEN AND 454 00:16:04,965 --> 00:16:07,434 I'M SURE WE'D LOVE IT ALL TO 455 00:16:07,568 --> 00:16:11,538 BE -- NOT TO BE AN ULTIMATUM. 456 00:16:11,739 --> 00:16:12,673 >> Charlie: BUT DONATIONS ARE 457 00:16:12,806 --> 00:16:15,342 DONE AND SO IS ENROLLMENT. 458 00:16:15,542 --> 00:16:16,377 >> Ray: SO WHAT? 459 00:16:16,510 --> 00:16:18,545 IS THAT THE -- 460 00:16:18,746 --> 00:16:19,647 >> Charlie: SO WHAT? 461 00:16:19,847 --> 00:16:21,348 >> Ray: I THINK SO WHAT. 462 00:16:21,582 --> 00:16:22,383 >> Charlie: TURNED OFF MORE 463 00:16:22,516 --> 00:16:23,083 PEOPLE. 464 00:16:23,284 --> 00:16:23,917 >> Ray: THAT'S TOUGH. 465 00:16:24,051 --> 00:16:25,452 LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, WHEN 466 00:16:25,619 --> 00:16:27,588 BOOSTERS DO THEIR ACTIVISM, 467 00:16:27,721 --> 00:16:30,324 NOBODY SEEMS TO MIND IT. 468 00:16:30,557 --> 00:16:31,392 >> Charlie: BOOSTERS AREN'T 469 00:16:31,525 --> 00:16:32,860 GOING ON HUNGER STRIKES. 470 00:16:33,060 --> 00:16:33,994 >> Wendy: YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 471 00:16:34,128 --> 00:16:36,764 THE '60s, OK? 472 00:16:36,897 --> 00:16:41,268 SORRY, THE '7 OH, NO OFFENSE. 473 00:16:41,402 --> 00:16:44,238 THIS WAS KIND OF A FAR CRY WHEN 474 00:16:44,371 --> 00:16:46,774 YOU HEAR THAT THE GRADUATE 475 00:16:46,907 --> 00:16:48,208 STUDENT ON THE HUNGER STRIKE IS 476 00:16:48,342 --> 00:16:52,379 THE SON OF AN $8 MILLION A YEAR 477 00:16:52,513 --> 00:16:53,747 RAILROAD EXECUTIVE AND DOING HIS 478 00:16:53,881 --> 00:16:55,382 GRADUATE WORK AND IF YOU HAVE 479 00:16:55,516 --> 00:16:58,052 SUCH OPPRESSIVE RACIST 480 00:16:58,185 --> 00:16:59,219 STRUCTURE, WHY IN THE WORLD 481 00:16:59,353 --> 00:17:02,790 WOULD YOU SAY, WHEN YOU'RE BEING 482 00:17:02,923 --> 00:17:03,824 TERRORIZED. 483 00:17:04,024 --> 00:17:06,460 I MEAN, I DON'T THINK ANYONE 484 00:17:06,593 --> 00:17:12,066 REALLY BOUGHT THAT THE IOWA 485 00:17:12,232 --> 00:17:20,774 PARTICULAR AS. 486 00:17:20,908 --> 00:17:26,747 >> Alvin: WHEN WE WERE IN SCHOOL 487 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,918 IN THE LATE '70s, OK, THE 488 00:17:31,085 --> 00:17:32,086 UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS [INAUDIBLE] 489 00:17:32,219 --> 00:17:33,554 ONE OF THE FEW COLLEGES THAT 490 00:17:33,721 --> 00:17:34,188 STILL DID. 491 00:17:34,355 --> 00:17:36,290 AND LIKE I SAY, IF YOU'RE AT THE 492 00:17:36,423 --> 00:17:37,424 UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS, I'M NOT 493 00:17:37,558 --> 00:17:40,127 SAYING YOU'RE A WITCH, BUT THESE 494 00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:41,695 WERE MOSTLY WHITE KID THAT'S LED 495 00:17:41,829 --> 00:17:43,130 THAT MISSION AND I CAN'T LOOK AT 496 00:17:43,263 --> 00:17:46,066 THEM AND SAY, YOU'RE FROM AN 497 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,535 AFFLUENCE FAMILY, PROBABLY GOT 498 00:17:48,702 --> 00:17:48,902 MONEY. 499 00:17:49,236 --> 00:17:51,739 >> Wendy: DO YOU REALLY THINK 500 00:17:51,872 --> 00:17:54,341 THAT THE DEFEET OF HOMECOMING 501 00:17:54,475 --> 00:17:56,176 PARADES AND WHETHER OR NOT THE 502 00:17:56,310 --> 00:17:57,444 CHANCE LETTER AT THE TIME OR THE 503 00:17:57,578 --> 00:17:58,479 UNIVERSITY SYSTEM PRESIDENT WAS 504 00:17:58,612 --> 00:18:01,014 GOING TO GET OUT DURING A 505 00:18:01,148 --> 00:18:03,016 HOMECOMING PARADE AND DISCUSS 506 00:18:03,183 --> 00:18:04,418 GRIEVANCES, DOES THAT RISE TO 507 00:18:04,551 --> 00:18:07,254 THE LEVEL OF APARTHEID? 508 00:18:07,388 --> 00:18:10,124 IN MY MIND -- 509 00:18:10,324 --> 00:18:11,725 >> Alvin: OK, THEY DID THE 510 00:18:11,859 --> 00:18:13,160 PARADE THING AND IT'S A 511 00:18:13,327 --> 00:18:14,194 DEMONSTRATION AND IT HAPPENED. 512 00:18:14,328 --> 00:18:15,529 I GET THAT. 513 00:18:15,662 --> 00:18:16,897 THAT'S COLLEGE KIDSING ABOUT 514 00:18:17,030 --> 00:18:20,267 COLLEGE KIDS. 515 00:18:20,401 --> 00:18:23,103 I WOULD HAVE SAID, BRING THE 516 00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:25,038 DEMANDS AND I'LL TAKE THAT 517 00:18:25,172 --> 00:18:28,008 INTO -- YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATION. 518 00:18:28,142 --> 00:18:32,780 AND BY THE WAY, YOU HAVE A D YOU 519 00:18:32,913 --> 00:18:36,884 MIGHT WANTS TO DEMAND THAT YOU 520 00:18:37,050 --> 00:18:39,987 STUDY MORE. 521 00:18:40,187 --> 00:18:43,424 >> Bill: LET THE NEW 522 00:18:43,557 --> 00:18:43,991 PRESIDENT -- 523 00:18:44,191 --> 00:18:44,725 >> Wendy: IN THE INTERIM 524 00:18:44,892 --> 00:18:46,160 CHANCELLOR WERE THE ONES 525 00:18:46,293 --> 00:18:47,728 FIELDING ALL OF THESE, IN TERMS 526 00:18:47,861 --> 00:18:49,530 OF THE UPHEAVAL AND THE RESULT 527 00:18:49,663 --> 00:18:50,898 OF THE UPHEAVAL. 528 00:18:51,231 --> 00:18:53,000 >> Bill: I WAS A CAMPUS 529 00:18:53,133 --> 00:18:53,767 EDITOR -- NO, I WAS. 530 00:18:53,901 --> 00:18:57,204 I WANT TO SAY I WASN'T AFRICAN 531 00:18:57,371 --> 00:18:57,871 AMERICAN AT THE TIME. 532 00:18:58,005 --> 00:19:01,675 BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS 533 00:19:01,809 --> 00:19:05,446 THAT STUDENT ACTIVISM IS A 534 00:19:05,579 --> 00:19:08,015 IMPORTANT PART OF AN CAMPUS 535 00:19:08,182 --> 00:19:09,483 ENVIRONMENT AND FOR SOMEONE TO 536 00:19:09,616 --> 00:19:14,855 SAY, YOU'RE DEMANDS ARE -- 537 00:19:15,055 --> 00:19:17,124 >> ACCORDING TO THE 538 00:19:17,257 --> 00:19:18,158 ADMINISTRATORS, IF THESE 539 00:19:18,292 --> 00:19:20,027 STUDENTS HAD SHOWN UP AT THE 540 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,228 MEETINGS, THEY WOULD HAVE KNOWN 541 00:19:21,361 --> 00:19:23,230 THAT MANY OF THEIR DEMANDS HAD 542 00:19:23,363 --> 00:19:25,065 BEEN ENACTED UPON. 543 00:19:25,265 --> 00:19:26,533 >> Ray: THE FACT OF THE MATTER 544 00:19:26,667 --> 00:19:30,737 IS THAT -- THAT THIS IDEA THAT 545 00:19:30,871 --> 00:19:32,573 SOMEHOW -- AND I DIDN'T LIKE ALL 546 00:19:32,706 --> 00:19:34,374 THE LIST OF THEIR DEMANDS WHEN 547 00:19:34,508 --> 00:19:35,776 THEY MADE THEM. 548 00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:37,744 MY POINT IS THIS, THEY MADE AN 549 00:19:37,878 --> 00:19:41,748 IMPACT AND MADE IT WITH THEIR 550 00:19:41,882 --> 00:19:42,416 POWER -- 551 00:19:42,616 --> 00:19:43,884 >> Charlie: OK, LET'S MOVE ON. 552 00:19:44,017 --> 00:19:44,518 WENDY WEISE. 553 00:19:44,685 --> 00:19:46,987 I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT A TOPIC 554 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:49,857 THAT APPARENTLY IS PRETTY 555 00:19:49,990 --> 00:19:54,761 IMPORTANT TO GREECERS AND -- 556 00:19:54,895 --> 00:19:56,830 GROCERS AND CONVENIENCE STORE 557 00:19:56,964 --> 00:19:58,799 OWNERS, PUTTING IN COOLER CASES 558 00:19:58,932 --> 00:20:02,035 INSIDE OF THE STORE IN THE STATE 559 00:20:02,202 --> 00:20:04,805 OF MISSOURI AND ALSO GROWLERS, 560 00:20:04,972 --> 00:20:07,508 LIKE A SMALL KEG. 561 00:20:07,674 --> 00:20:10,511 YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN NOTICE, BUT 562 00:20:10,644 --> 00:20:12,145 YOU CAN IN COLORADO AND 563 00:20:12,279 --> 00:20:15,015 WISCONSIN AND THE SMALL CRAFT 564 00:20:15,182 --> 00:20:18,185 BREWERS SAY IF BIG BREWERS PUT 565 00:20:18,318 --> 00:20:20,254 THEIR REFRIGERATED CASES IN THE 566 00:20:20,387 --> 00:20:22,289 CONVENIENCE STORES, THAT WILL 567 00:20:22,422 --> 00:20:24,458 KEEP THE CRAFT BEERS OUT. 568 00:20:24,591 --> 00:20:26,159 WHO DO YOU STAND WITH. 569 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:31,532 >> Wendy: I STAND WITH THE HEIR 570 00:20:31,665 --> 00:20:33,834 OF ANAANHEUSER-BUSCHE. 571 00:20:33,967 --> 00:20:38,438 IN EARLIES THIS UPSIDE DOWN -- 572 00:20:38,572 --> 00:20:42,442 DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE WORLD WE'RE 573 00:20:42,576 --> 00:20:44,044 LIVING IN. 574 00:20:44,211 --> 00:20:48,448 IF IT WAS AD AND SOME 575 00:20:48,582 --> 00:20:49,783 MICROBREWERIES TRYING TO HORN 576 00:20:49,917 --> 00:20:51,985 IN, WE WOULD ALL BE, WHAT'S 577 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,822 WRONG WITH THOSE SUBVERSIVE 578 00:20:55,956 --> 00:20:56,523 MICROBREWERIES. 579 00:20:56,657 --> 00:20:59,526 BUT NOW THAT IT'S AB AND SOON TO 580 00:20:59,660 --> 00:21:01,295 BE MILLER, WE'RE ALL FOR THE 581 00:21:01,428 --> 00:21:03,063 LITTLE GUY, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S 582 00:21:03,196 --> 00:21:05,198 BILLY BUSCH. 583 00:21:05,332 --> 00:21:09,369 THE BREWER OF KRAFTIG. 584 00:21:09,503 --> 00:21:12,539 A MICROBREWER. 585 00:21:12,673 --> 00:21:15,609 MOST OF THE MICRO BREWERS IN THE 586 00:21:15,742 --> 00:21:19,046 STATE ARE AGAINST THEM FROM 587 00:21:19,179 --> 00:21:21,882 BEING PUSHED OUT IN THE 588 00:21:22,049 --> 00:21:23,984 CONVENIENCE STORES. 589 00:21:24,184 --> 00:21:25,252 >> Alvin: I WILL STAND WITH THE 590 00:21:25,385 --> 00:21:28,255 PEOPLE WHO MAKE THE BEER 591 00:21:28,422 --> 00:21:30,123 100-GALLONS AT A TIME. 592 00:21:30,257 --> 00:21:32,259 SORRY, PAY YOU A LOT OF MONEY -- 593 00:21:32,392 --> 00:21:33,393 COME ON IN. 594 00:21:33,527 --> 00:21:38,765 CRAFT BEER PEOPLE, YOU CAN GO TO 595 00:21:38,899 --> 00:21:40,267 FOREST PARK -- ALL THAT HAVE. 596 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,235 IT'S ALL YOURS. 597 00:21:42,369 --> 00:21:43,503 BUT -- I'M SORRY. 598 00:21:43,670 --> 00:21:48,308 IT'S ABOUT THE FREE ENTERPRISE 599 00:21:48,442 --> 00:21:51,244 AND BUT THIS WHOLE BUY-IN, TO BE 600 00:21:51,378 --> 00:21:53,714 ABLE TO GET LIKE A CUP OF BEER 601 00:21:53,914 --> 00:21:56,016 OR SOME -- PUT BEER IN A THING 602 00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:58,118 AND TAKE IT OUT WITH YOU. 603 00:21:58,352 --> 00:21:59,386 >> Charlie: A COUPLE OF GALLONS. 604 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:01,455 YOU CAN DO IT IN U CITY. 605 00:22:01,588 --> 00:22:03,824 THE ONLY PLACE IN THE STATE. 606 00:22:04,024 --> 00:22:05,125 >> Alvin: THAT SEEMS LIKE WHAT 607 00:22:05,258 --> 00:22:07,828 ARE YOU GOING DO WITH THE BEER 608 00:22:07,961 --> 00:22:12,799 WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE 609 00:22:12,933 --> 00:22:13,367 HIGHWAY. 610 00:22:13,567 --> 00:22:15,636 >> Charlie: IN THE E.U., THEY 611 00:22:15,769 --> 00:22:18,372 ALLOW THE REFRIGERATED CASES BUT 612 00:22:18,505 --> 00:22:20,540 30% OF THEM HAVE TO GO TO A 613 00:22:20,674 --> 00:22:21,842 COMPANY OTHER THAN THE ONE 614 00:22:22,009 --> 00:22:25,245 PAYING FOR IT. 615 00:22:25,379 --> 00:22:26,980 IF THE STATE -- 616 00:22:27,180 --> 00:22:27,981 >> Alvin: IF THE STATE SAID THAT 617 00:22:28,115 --> 00:22:29,883 WAS THE LAW, I DON'T THINK THAT 618 00:22:30,017 --> 00:22:31,518 WOULD STOP -- THEY'D STILL DO 619 00:22:31,652 --> 00:22:32,419 IT. 620 00:22:32,552 --> 00:22:35,122 IF THEY HAD 70% OF THE POOL, I 621 00:22:35,288 --> 00:22:43,163 THINK THEY WOULD BE HAPPY. 622 00:22:43,397 --> 00:22:45,098 >> Ray: I DON'T KNOW, IF YOU 623 00:22:45,232 --> 00:22:51,405 TOOK AWAY THE FACT THAT I -- THE 624 00:22:51,571 --> 00:22:54,641 CRAFT BEER AND THE BILLY BUSCHS 625 00:22:54,808 --> 00:22:56,276 IN THE WORLD, I DON'T UNDERSTAND 626 00:22:56,410 --> 00:22:57,411 WHY IT IS GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE 627 00:22:57,544 --> 00:22:59,312 TELLING THE CONVENIENCE STORIES 628 00:22:59,446 --> 00:23:00,547 WHAT KIND OF COOLERS THEY CAN 629 00:23:00,681 --> 00:23:00,947 HAVE. 630 00:23:01,081 --> 00:23:02,582 THAT DOESN'T MAKE A GREAT DEAL 631 00:23:02,716 --> 00:23:03,116 OF SENSE. 632 00:23:03,250 --> 00:23:05,552 TO ME. 633 00:23:05,686 --> 00:23:07,988 BUT HAVING SAID THAT, I'M 634 00:23:08,121 --> 00:23:09,089 ROOTING FOR THE LITTLE GUYS AT 635 00:23:09,222 --> 00:23:11,725 THE SAME TIME. 636 00:23:11,925 --> 00:23:12,659 >> Bill: BILLY BUSCH, THAT'S 637 00:23:12,793 --> 00:23:14,961 WHERE I STAND. 638 00:23:15,162 --> 00:23:17,664 >> Charlie: BY THE WAY, GOING TO 639 00:23:17,831 --> 00:23:19,599 BE ON MY RADIO SHOW TOMORROW FOR 640 00:23:19,733 --> 00:23:21,968 A SHAMELESS PLUG AND LET'S HOPE 641 00:23:22,102 --> 00:23:24,071 HE BRINGS HIS PRODUCT. 642 00:23:24,204 --> 00:23:26,907 HEY, I WANT TO ASK YOU AND AS I 643 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,276 WORK, I'LL BE PAYING THE 1% 644 00:23:29,409 --> 00:23:32,112 EARNINGS TAX AND THAT ISSUE IS 645 00:23:32,245 --> 00:23:34,548 IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS AGAIN IN 646 00:23:34,681 --> 00:23:35,015 APRIL. 647 00:23:35,148 --> 00:23:36,983 FOR SOME REASON, UPSTATE 648 00:23:37,117 --> 00:23:38,752 LAWMAKERS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT 649 00:23:38,885 --> 00:23:39,686 IT. 650 00:23:39,820 --> 00:23:42,556 ALL EMPLOYEES HAVE TO PAY 1% OF 651 00:23:42,689 --> 00:23:46,526 THEIR SALARY TO THE CITY AND IT 652 00:23:46,660 --> 00:23:48,762 IT'S AT THE BALLOT BOX IN APRIL. 653 00:23:48,895 --> 00:23:50,297 DO YOU THINK THE LAWMAKERS ARE 654 00:23:50,430 --> 00:23:52,199 REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CITY 655 00:23:52,399 --> 00:23:53,567 OF ST. LOUIS? 656 00:23:53,767 --> 00:23:55,001 >> Ray: SURE THEY ARE, THEY'VE 657 00:23:55,135 --> 00:23:58,338 ALWAYS BEEN COMPASSIONATE ABOUT 658 00:23:58,472 --> 00:23:58,939 THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY. 659 00:23:59,072 --> 00:24:00,741 AND I'M SURE THAT WHAT WAS 660 00:24:00,874 --> 00:24:02,275 CONTRIBUTED THIS WEEK, NONE OF 661 00:24:02,409 --> 00:24:04,144 IT WILL COME THEIR WAY. 662 00:24:04,277 --> 00:24:06,747 NO, I WAS REALLY MUSED -- FIRST 663 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,382 OF ALL, NO ONE LIKES ANY TAX, 664 00:24:09,516 --> 00:24:09,649 OK? 665 00:24:09,783 --> 00:24:11,118 AND IT'S GOING TO PUT THE CITY 666 00:24:11,318 --> 00:24:13,120 AT A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE TO 667 00:24:13,253 --> 00:24:14,688 THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES, WHICH 668 00:24:14,855 --> 00:24:17,090 IS WHY IT'S INTERESTING THAT 669 00:24:17,224 --> 00:24:18,258 LEGISLATORS WHO PURPORT TO 670 00:24:18,391 --> 00:24:19,693 REPRESENT THE SURROUNDING 671 00:24:19,826 --> 00:24:21,928 COUNTIES THAT BENEFIT FROM THE 672 00:24:22,062 --> 00:24:27,968 PROBLEMS CAUSED BY THE TAX ARE 673 00:24:28,101 --> 00:24:31,605 INDIGNANT WHAT IT'S DOING THO TO 674 00:24:31,838 --> 00:24:32,172 THEIR REGION. 675 00:24:32,305 --> 00:24:34,841 IT WAS ONE FROM BALLWIN, AND 676 00:24:34,975 --> 00:24:37,110 ANOTHER ONE -- I DON'T KNOW -- 677 00:24:37,277 --> 00:24:38,478 BASICALLY WORRIED ABOUT THE JOB 678 00:24:38,612 --> 00:24:40,847 LOSS THAT WOULD BE COMING TO 679 00:24:40,981 --> 00:24:41,715 THEIR CONSTITUENTS. 680 00:24:41,848 --> 00:24:43,350 I THINK THAT GIVEN IT'S A THIRD 681 00:24:43,483 --> 00:24:46,386 OF THE CITY'S BUDGET, THAT'S 682 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,088 GENERATED BY THE CITY EARNINGS 683 00:24:48,221 --> 00:24:51,358 TAX. 684 00:24:51,491 --> 00:24:53,593 IF THEY WANT TO EXERCISE THEIR 685 00:24:53,727 --> 00:24:56,096 RIGHT TO BLOW IT UP, HE'S GOT A 686 00:24:56,229 --> 00:24:59,099 THINK TANK AND MAYBE OFFER SOME 687 00:24:59,232 --> 00:25:01,034 ALTERNATIVES BEFORE WE THROW THE 688 00:25:01,168 --> 00:25:02,636 CITY'S BUDGET -- 689 00:25:02,836 --> 00:25:03,804 >> Charlie: FIVE YEARSA HE WAS 690 00:25:03,937 --> 00:25:05,272 IN FAVOR OF A REDEVELOPMENT HE 691 00:25:05,405 --> 00:25:08,408 FEELS JOBS CAN MOVE BUT PROPERTY 692 00:25:08,542 --> 00:25:09,810 CAN'T AYE THINK HE'S WRONG ABOUT 693 00:25:09,976 --> 00:25:11,912 THAT AND ONE OTHER THING, AS 694 00:25:12,112 --> 00:25:13,413 MUCH AS IT'S NOT POPULAR, THE 695 00:25:13,547 --> 00:25:17,417 FACT IS THAT PEOPLE, A 696 00:25:17,551 --> 00:25:18,518 DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF 697 00:25:18,652 --> 00:25:20,287 PEOPLE, COME TO THE DOWNTOWN AND 698 00:25:20,420 --> 00:25:22,522 WORK AND THEY EXPECT ALL OF THE 699 00:25:22,656 --> 00:25:23,390 SERVICES OF THE CITY. 700 00:25:23,523 --> 00:25:25,959 THE POLICE AND FIRE AND THE 701 00:25:26,092 --> 00:25:28,228 STREETS AND THIS IS THE WAYS TO 702 00:25:28,361 --> 00:25:28,762 PAY FOR IT. 703 00:25:28,895 --> 00:25:31,765 I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT ALL OF. 704 00:25:31,965 --> 00:25:33,166 >> Bill: UNLESS THERE'S A WAY 705 00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:35,468 THAT THE COUNTY COULD HELP THE 706 00:25:35,602 --> 00:25:37,070 CITY'S BUDGET, YOU HAVE TO HAVE 707 00:25:37,204 --> 00:25:37,437 THIS. 708 00:25:37,637 --> 00:25:40,473 >> Alvin: I AGREE, LOOKING AT 709 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,842 FINANCIAL DISASTER BUT I THINK 710 00:25:41,975 --> 00:25:43,510 THERE'S TIMES -- WE HAVE TO VOTE 711 00:25:43,643 --> 00:25:45,545 ON THIS EVERY FIVE YEARS. 712 00:25:45,779 --> 00:25:46,413 I GET THAT. 713 00:25:46,546 --> 00:25:49,583 BUT AT A TIME WHERE WHAT IS 0 714 00:25:49,749 --> 00:25:51,218 GOING ON IN THE CITY OF 715 00:25:51,351 --> 00:25:52,652 ST. LOUIS, IT MIGHT BE THE LAST 716 00:25:52,786 --> 00:25:54,688 THING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT, IS 717 00:25:54,821 --> 00:25:55,956 CUTTING REVENUE FROM THE CITY OF 718 00:25:56,089 --> 00:25:56,523 ST. LOUIS. 719 00:25:56,656 --> 00:25:58,024 NO MATTER WHAT WE THINK ABOUT 720 00:25:58,158 --> 00:26:00,026 TAXES OR WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF WE 721 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,528 TAKE IT AWAY. 722 00:26:01,695 --> 00:26:05,932 IF WE TAKE IT AWAY OVER 10 YEARS 723 00:26:06,066 --> 00:26:07,200 DEBATE. 724 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,168 >> Charlie: THOSE 3,000 725 00:26:08,301 --> 00:26:10,036 EMPLOYEES AT THE NGA ARE ALL 726 00:26:10,170 --> 00:26:12,105 GOING TO GET A PAY INCREASE AS 727 00:26:12,239 --> 00:26:15,408 SOON AS THEY MOVE TO ILLINOIS 728 00:26:15,542 --> 00:26:22,649 AND THAT'S -- 729 00:26:22,849 --> 00:26:24,951 >> Ray: THEY LIVE IN THE CITY OF 730 00:26:25,085 --> 00:26:26,386 ST. LOUIS, THE EARNINGS TAX 731 00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:27,354 FOLLOWS THEM. 732 00:26:27,554 --> 00:26:28,421 >> Charlie: FIRST, LET'S FIND 733 00:26:28,555 --> 00:26:29,990 OUT WHAT THE VIEWERS HAD TO SAY, 734 00:26:30,123 --> 00:26:32,025 YOU HAD TO SAY ABOUT LAST WEEK'S 735 00:26:32,158 --> 00:26:32,459 PROGRAM. 736 00:26:32,626 --> 00:26:34,027 WHEN OUR DAUGHTER WAS A GIRL 737 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,596 SCOUT 20 YEARS AGO, I WAS MAZED 738 00:26:36,763 --> 00:26:38,265 HOW ANTI-MALE THEIR LEADERSHIP 739 00:26:38,398 --> 00:26:39,599 HAS BECOME. 740 00:26:39,733 --> 00:26:41,701 FROM WHAT I'VE READ IT'S ONLY 741 00:26:41,835 --> 00:26:42,903 GOTTEN WORSE. 742 00:26:43,069 --> 00:26:44,905 THE NEXT TIME KEVIN JACKSON IS 743 00:26:45,038 --> 00:26:47,340 ON, I WISH SOMEONE WOULD ASK HIM 744 00:26:47,474 --> 00:26:51,511 HOW HE HE INTENDS TO IMPROVE THE 745 00:26:51,678 --> 00:26:54,581 ROADS AND BRIDGES -- YOU CAN 746 00:26:54,748 --> 00:26:57,117 WRITE US CARE OF 3655 OLIVE 747 00:26:57,450 --> 00:26:57,984 STREET, ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI 748 00:26:58,118 --> 00:26:59,085 63108. 749 00:26:59,219 --> 00:27:01,955 WE ALSO LIKE THOSE EMAILS, 750 00:27:02,088 --> 00:27:06,393 LETTERS AT @KETC.ORG AND THOSE 751 00:27:06,526 --> 00:27:11,731 TWEETS AT #DONNYBROOKSTL. 752 00:27:11,865 --> 00:27:14,434 STAY TUNED FOR "DONNYBROOK, YOUR 753 00:27:14,567 --> 00:27:14,734 TURN." 754 00:27:14,901 --> 00:27:16,436 RAY AND WENDY WILL BE TAKING 755 00:27:16,569 --> 00:27:17,304 YOUR PHONE CALLS. 756 00:27:17,437 --> 00:27:19,039 THE REST OF US WILL SEE YOU NEXT 757 00:27:19,172 --> 00:27:20,707 WEEK AT THIS TIME. 758 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:21,875 DON'T GO AWAY. 759 00:27:22,108 --> 00:27:23,176 >> "DONNYBROOK" IS MADE POSSIBLE 760 00:27:23,310 --> 00:27:24,377 THROUGH THE GENEROUS SUPPORT OF 761 00:27:24,511 --> 00:27:25,845 THE MEMBERS OF KETC.