THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR

ANOTHER EDITION OF DONNYBROOK.

GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

COOL IS IN SECTION AND OUR

PANELIST HAVE DONE THEIR HOME

AND WE'LL MEET THEM IN JUST A

MOMENT.

HERE SHE IS THE MEDIA VETERAN

HERSELF WENDY WEEKS.

FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH

AND FTL TODD.COM BILL MAY CELL

LONG.

-RAY HARTMAN AND -- ALVIN REID.

OKAY.

WE'LL START WITH YOU BILL.

THE ANNOUNCEMENT.

ERIC OLD SAID HE GOING TO

INVESTIGATE ST. LOUIS COUNTY AND

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL.

LET ME ASK YOU AND ALSO LET ME

ASK YOU IF YOU THINK HOLDER WHO

CAME TO ST. LOUIS AND SAID HE

SHARES A MISS TRUST OF POLICE

BECAUSE HE BELIEVES HE WAS

RACIALLY PROFILED SOME BOTH NEW

JERSEY AND IN THE GEORGE TOWN

SECTION OF WASHINGTON, D.C.

CAN HIS JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAVE

A FAIR AND OBJECTIVE CRY TEAK OF

POLICE IN ST. LOUIS.

SURE.

AND AS FAR AS THE -- IT WON'T

BEHOLDER DOING THE

INVESTIGATION.

IT WILL BE UNDER -- BUT IT'S

SETTING UP TO BE SOMETHING TO

PACIFY THE PEOPLE WHEN THERE ARE

NO INDICTMENTS AND NO

CONVICTIONS ON DARREN WILSON.

HERE WHAT IS WE'RE GOING TO DO.

WE'RE GOING TO FIND A --

PRACTICE WITH THE POLICE

DEPARTMENT AND THERE WILL BE A

CONSENT DECREE AND JEFF JACKSON

WILL BE GONE AND THAT WILL BE

GONESSE GONE.

OFFERING THEM UP AS A RITUAL

SACRIFICE.

I THINK SO.

THE COUNTY WILL BE -- --

LET'S SEE HOW MANY APPLIED.

LET'S CONTACT THEM AND WHEN YOU

APPLY -- DID YOU GET A CALL

BACK?

IF YOU'VE GOT 20 PEOPLE APPLIED

AND ALL WERE ELIGIBLE AND TWO OR

THREE WERE HIRED.

SOMEBODY HAS TO EXPLAIN THAT.

WHETHER OR NOT THEY TRY TO

CHARGE THE OFFICER WITH THE

CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATION.

THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN I DOUBT

IF HE WERE TO BE CHARGED.

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WOULD

HAVE TO SAY THERE IS NOTHING --

THAT WE CAN COMMENT -- CAN DO.

-- IN CINCINNATI THE

DEPARTMENT OF INVESTIGATION WENT

ON FOR FIVE YEARS AND THEY NEVER

SIGNED IT.

THEY REFUSED TO GO ALONG WITH

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DECREE.

I DON'T SHARE THE RITUAL

SACRIFICE THEORY.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO

HAPPEN AND THERE MAY BE AN

INDICTMENT AND CERTAINLY ERIC

HOLDER DOESN'T TAINT THE JUSTICE

DEPARTMENT.

AND I AGREE WITH BILL.

BOB McCULLOUGH DOESN'T HAVE

ANY OBLIGATION TO STEP DOWN.

IN AN AREA WHERE RACE IS THE BIG

ISSUE --

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I'M SAYING -- I THINK THE

SITUATION IS MORE DRASTIC.

ALL I'M SAYING IS I THINK THE

ONLY THING THAT IS GOING TO

PLACATE PEOPLE WITH REGARD TO

THIS CASE IF THERE IS NO

INDICTMENT IS IF THERE IS THE

U.S. JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DID

BRING A CIVIL RIGHTS CASE AND I

DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD PREJUDGE

THAT.

WE HAVE ALL HAD OUR OWN

UNIQUE EXPERIENCES TO WHAT JOB

WE DO.

BUT DON'T FORGET WHAT HOLDER

HAS BEEN SAYING FOR EVER IS HE

COMES TO TOWN AND HE SAYS AGAIN

AND AGAIN HE WANTS JUSTICE FOR

THE BROWN FAMILY AND HE SHARES

IN THE TRUST FOR THE POLICE.

SO JUST CONCERN ABOUT BOB

McCULLOUGH IN THE MINDS OF

PEOPLE IF THERE IS A DAMING

REPORT POLICE HE L SAY THAT THIS

WAS ANTIPOLICE FROM THE GET-GO.

I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.

WHAT PEOPLE'S REACTION IS.

WHAT CAN I JUDGE?

I'VE WRITTEN ABOUT THIS AND WHEN

I SAY I HAVE A MISTRUST OF

POLICE THIS DOESN'T MEAN LIKE I

WANT TO FIGHT THE POLICE.

I'M ANTIPOLICE?

ALL I'M SAYING IS IF I GET

STOPPED WHATEVER HAPPENS HERE IS

GOING TO BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT

THAN IF I WAS A DIFFERENT COLOR

PERSON.

BOB -- IS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL

JUST LIKE BARACK OBAMA THAT IS

WHAT MAKES ME SO UNCOMFORTABLE.

McCULLOUGH SHOULD RECUSE

HIMSELF.

PEOPLE ARE ELECTED.

I DID NOT SAY BOB SHOULD

RECUSE HIMSELF AND I THINK HE IS

AN HONEST PROSECUTOR.

I DID AGREE WITH PEOPLE WHO

THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR

THE COMMUNITY SIMPLY BECAUSE OF

THE TRIFECTA OF HAVING SOMEONE

WHO'S RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY

UNPOPULAR IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY

COMBINED WITH THE INHERENT

SECRECY OF THE GRAND JURY

PROCEEDING AND THE THIRD ASPECT

IS WHO PROSECUTION.

' IT'S A BAD COMBINATION.

BUT KEEP IN MIND --

DO YOU THINK THE

INVESTIGATION IS GOING TO BE

TRANSPARENT.

THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE

FEELING THAT YOU'RE TALKING

ABOUT ABOUT ERIC HOLDER HAVE IT

ABOUT BARACK OBAMA IRRESPECTIVE

OF ANYTHING THAT IS SAID.

I DON'T THINK THAT THE

NEGATIVE FEELINGS ABOUT BOB

McCULLOUGH ARE FAIR.

THEY MAY NOT BE FAIR BUT THEY

REAL.

BECAUSE OF TIME CONSTRAINTS

--

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LET'S MOVE ON TO RAY HARTMAN.

HANG ON.

WE'VE GOT TO MOVE ON.

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JANE NIXON.

THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE.

HE HAS HAD A WEEK THAT WELL-- HE

STOPPED THE EMERGENCY ORDER SOME

FERGUSON THIS WEEK WHICH MEANS

THAT HE NO LONGER HAS THE POWER

TO PULL BOB McCULLOUGH AWAY

FROM THE PROSECUTION AND THEN

TIM FISH SAID SPEAKING FOR THE

MISSOURI PEACE OFFICER'S

ASSOCIATION WROTE A LET ARE TO

THE GOVERNOR SAYING WE DON'T

LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR A VIGOROUS

PROSECUTION OF THE POLICE

OFFICER HOW ABOUT A VIGOROUS

INVESTIGATION?

AND THEY ARE WONDERING IF THE

GOVERNOR IS A FAIR GUY.

DO YOU THINK HE WILL BE A VICE

PRESIDENT?

I WISH TIM WAS STILL POLICE

CHIEF AND HE WOULD HAVE HANDED

THIS DIFFERENTLY.

BUT I DISAGREE WITH HIM ON THIS.

I THINK YEA NIXON PROBABLY

DIDN'T CHOOSE HIS WORDS WELL AND

BY THE TIME WE GET TO NEXT WEEK

HE IS IN ANOTHER SHOOTING

GALLERY NEXT WEEK.

HIS FOOT, I -- FUTURE I WOULD

SAY NORMALLY THE NAME WOULD BE

GREAT BUT BECAUSE IT WAS A

ANONYMOUS.

HE HAD SUCH A BAD INTRODUCTION

ON THE INTEREST FAT STAGE.

ON THE NATIONAL STAGE.

HE HAD SUCH A -- YOU NEVER GET A

SECOND CHANCE TO MAKE A FIRST

IMPRESSION AND FOR A LOT OF

PEOPLE HIS FIRST IMPRESSION

DIDN'T GO WELL.

I THOUGHT IN THIS PARTICULAR

CASE HE WAS STANDING NEXT TO

CONGRESSMAN CLAY WHO HAD ALREADY

SAID THAT MICHAEL BROWN WAS

MURDERED.

TO ME WATCHING THE PRESS

CONFERENCE IT WAS NOT SO MUCH

WHAT THE GOVERNOR WAS SAYING --

AS THE WAY HE SAID IT.

WE MUST HAVE JUSTICE FOR THE

FAMILY.

THE VIGOROUS PROSECUTION.

I THOUGHT HE IS PRIVY TO SOME

INFORMATION THAT THE OTHERS

DON'T HAVE YET AND TO BORROW'S

POPULAR PHRASE IT WAS A RUSH TO

JUDGMENT THAT HE CANNOT AFFORD

TO MAKE.

HAVE WE'LL DISCUSSED IT

BEFORE AND I'M MORE CONVINCED --

BECAUSE WHAT ELSE ARE YOU GOING

TO RUN FOR IN MISSOURI?

NOT MUCH.

HIS CHANCES OF BEING PRESIDENT

AND VICE PRESIDENT ARE GREATER

NOW THAN THEY WERE BEFORE ANY OF

THIS STARTED.

LET ME EXPLAIN -- WE BASICALLY

ALL RIGHT LOOK AT WAS GOING ON

RIGHT HERE IN MISSOURI.

AND WE'RE SAYING THIS OR THAT.

IF NIXON HAD TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR

OF THE STATE OF MISSOURI

TOMORROW I AM CONVINCE E HE

WOULD WIN BECAUSE NIXON HAS

CARRIED THIS STATE BEFORE WHEN

IT WAS HEAVILY REPUBLICAN AND I

GUARANTEE YOU WITH WHAT HE HAS

DONE -- LET ME FINISH.

OKAY.

WHAT HE HAS DONE HERE ALL RIGHT.

THERE WERE PEOPLE IN MISSOURI

THAT WOULD VOTE FOR HIM THAT

WOULD NOT VOTE FOR HIM THE OTHER

TIME.

WHO'S MAD AT NIXON RIGHT NOW.

THE POLICE OFFICER AND THE

MAJORITY OF THE BLACK

POPULATION.

WHICH MEANS HE MUST BE DOING A

PRETTY GOOD JOB.

LET ME FINISH.

LET ME FINISH.

OKAY.

AND LASTLY LET ME SAY THIS IF

JAY NIXON COULD WIN THE

GUBERNATORIAL RACE TOMORROW

WHICH STATE IS HE GOING TO

LOSING.

WE HAVE ONLY HALF AN HOUR.

I'M THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN

PUSHING JAY NIXON.

YOU WERE HIS PRESS SECRETARY.

BUT I THOUGHT HE HAD A BAD

COUPLE OF WEEKS.

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BECAUSE MARIA IS -- SCREAMING

AND YELLING ABOUT JAY NIXON AND

IN SOME HOW THAT TRANSLATES INTO

THIS HUGE CHUNK --

THERE IS A POPULATION WITHIN

THIS COUNTRY LARGE ENOUGH TO NOT

PROPEL HIM TO THE NO, MA'AM

MAKINGS BUT SUPPORT HIM -- TO

THE NOMINATION BUT SUPPORT HIM

WE'RE ALL BEING A LITTLE BIT

ELITIST.

NO.

HE IS NOT DONE IN AMERICA.

DON'T YOU THINK HE HAS GREAT

DIFFICULTY EXPRESSING HIMSELF.

USING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE?

NO.

THE GUY CAN'T SPEAK.

I HEARD HIM AT THE PAGEANT

WHEN HE WON RE-ELECTION.

IT WAS LIKE HE WAS TALKING TO

VOTERS OF IOWA ABOUT MISSOURI.

WHEN HE IS UNDER FIRE AND

ANSWERING QUESTIONS FROM

REPORTERS.

WHY HE IS A GOOD POLITICIAN.

AND I LIVE IN WAY TOO MUCH OF A

GLASS HOUSE.

I DO THINK THAT IF I WERE

ADVISING NIXON AND HE WANTED TO

BE ON THE PRESIDENT, STAGE TO

YOUR POINT HE IS POPULAR WITHIN

MISSOURI.

THAT AND --

[ INDISCERNIBLE ]

BUT HE COULD TARGET LLOYD AT

SOME POINT AND TRY TO GET ON THE

NATIONAL STAGE.

WE'LL FIND OUT.

THIS WEEK -- DECIDED TO SUE

FOR MICHAEL BROWN'S JUVENILE

RECORDS.

IF YOU'VE GOT A RECORD AS AN

ADULT THAT IS OUT THERE ON CASE

NET.

BUT NOT AS A JUVENILE AND THEY

THINK THAT A IS WORTHY FOR THE

READERS.

THE FAMILY COURT OF ST. LOUIS

COUNTY SAID THEY ARE NOT GOING

TO RELEASE THEM BUT THEY DID SAY

HE HAD NO SERIOUS FELONIES AND

WAS NOT CONVICTED.

DO WE NEED MORE INFORMATION

ABOUT A YOUNGER MICHAEL BROWN AT

THIS POINT.

YOU WERE ABLE TO GLEAN MORE

THAN I WAS IN TERMS OF THE

DEFINITION OF SERIOUS.

IT SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS SERIOUS.

IT WAS POT THE MOST SERIOUS.

IT WAS NOT THE MOST SERIOUS BUT

I WAS CONFUSED BY THE DEFINITION

OF THE WORD AND HOW THEY WERE

USING IT TO RELATE TO MICHAEL

BROWN.

I THINK IT HAS A BEARING ON THE

CASE AND I KNOW THAT IS NOT

POPULAR AND I DON'T WANT THE

FAMILY TO FEEL HIS CHARACTER IS

BEING ASSASSINATED ON TOP OF THE

OTHER PAIN THEY GOING THROUGH

BUT I WOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY IF

THIS WERE ANY OTHER CHILD.

HE IS NOT A CHILD.

ANY OTHER YOUNG PERSON UNDER THE

SAME SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

HIS CHARACTER IS BEING A --

ASSASSINATED.

THE PAPER HAS TO DO IT

BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY RUMORS

AND PEOPLE WHO KNOW NOTHING --

HE DID THIS AND HE WAS A SUSPECT

IN THAT.

AND AS LONG AS THE POLICE AND

THE OFFICIALS HAVE GIVEN US WHO

INFORMATION AND JUST LET RUMORS

CARRY THE DAY I THINK IT'S

INCUMBENT UPON THE NEWSPAPER TO

TRY TO SAY HERE IS THE FACTS AS

WE KNOW THEM.

THE LAW SAYS THE JUVENILE

RECORDS ARE SEALED.

AND I THINK THAT BECAUSE HE

WAS AN ADULT IT WAS SEALED.

IF THEY RULED THAT NO WE'RE NOT

TURNING IT OVER I HAVE NO

PROBLEM WITH THAT.

BUT I'M A NEWSPAPER PERSON.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

WE NEED ON DO THIS AND THIS IS

OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

BUT WHAT DOES IT ADD --

THEORETICALLY ALL YOU DO IS

FURTHER TAINT A JURY POOL THAT

IS GOING TO BE IMPOSSIBLE TO SIT

AND HEAR ANY WAY.

I WILL NOT CRITICIZE THE POST

DISPATCHER FOR JOURNALISTIC

INQUIRY.

BUT I SURE -- YOU MENTIONED

JUSTICE FOR THE FAMILY OF

MICHAEL BROWN WHICH I THINK IS

IMPORTANT AND IT'S ONE THING TO

SIT HERE WITH ALL OF OUR RULES

AND ALL OF OUR RULES ON THAT BUT

AT SOME POINT FROM THEIR

PERSPECTIVE I'VE GOT TO BE

WONDERING WHERE JUST JUST IS.

BECAUSE THE GRAND JURY PROBABLY

WON'T INDICT BUT WE'LL CHANGE

THE RULES ON THE JUVENILE -- WE

ALL FEEL BAD FOR THEM BUT I

THINK JUSTICE FOR THE MICHAEL

BROWN FAMILY NEEDS TO BE --

EMOTIONS ARE SO HIGH AND

THERE IS SO MANY RESUME

ORGANIZATION -- RUMORS.

THE NEWSPAPER HAS TO TRY TO

GETTING SOME.

WHEN THE LAW PROTECTS

JUVENILE.

WILL OTHER JUVENILE RECORDS BE

GIVEN UP.

IF YOU WERE DECEASED --

THAT IS NOT THE LAW.

I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE

CENTENE CORPORATION.

ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK THAT IT'S

GOING TO MOVE A CLAIMS FACILITY

TO FERGUSON.

CENTENE ADMINISTERS MEDICAID

PLANS.

SO PEOPLE WILL CALL IN.

200 WORKERS IN FERGUSON ALTHOUGH

CENTENE DOES NOT HAVE PROPERTY

YET.

IT WILL MOVE TO BALLPARK

VILLAGE.

IT NEVER DID.

IS THIS A PR PLOY.

IF THEY BACK OUT OF THIS DEAL

THEY ARE REALLY KIND OF PLAYING

THE SITUATION TO THEIR BENEFIT.

IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THEY BUILD

IT AND FOR THOSE OF US I'M

FAMILIAR WITH FERGUSON BEFORE

THIS HAPPENED.

THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING

ABOUT -- THEY ARE NOT BUILDING

THE FACILITY THERE.

IT WILL BE IN FERGUSON.

I WILL APPLAUD THEM ONLY ONCE I

SEE WHO HAS BEEN HIRED.

BECAUSE PEOPLE FROM THE AREA

SHOULD BE HIRED AND THEY SHOULD

FIND PEOPLE WHO QUALIFY FOR JOBS

THAT HAVE BENEFITS AND HIGH

PAYING OR WELL PAYING.

I WON'T SAY HIGH PAYING.

BEFORE I LEAD A PARADE I WANT TO

SEE EXACTLY.

LET ME ASK YOU GUYS.

A COMPANY OF A $11 BILLION

CORPORATION SHOULD IT BE GETTING

TAX CREDITS TO START THESE JOBS?

THAT MEANS YOU'RE TAKING MONEY

OUT OF EDUCATION AND MEDICAID.

AND IT'S EASY FOR ME TO SAY

YOU SHOULD NOT TAKE MONEY BEING

GIVE IN TO YOU BUT IF YOU'RE

TRULY DOING SOMETHING HERE IN

THE NAME OF BEING JUST -- BUT

NO.

SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD IT

AND THE MONEY WILL STAY IN

FERGUSON.

I THINK IT'S A NICE GESTURE.

AND AGAIN -- WE'LL SEE WHAT THE

OUTCOME IS BUT I'M NOT GOING TO

BE CYNICAL EVEN THOUGH I SHARE

YOUR -- VERSIONS OF THESE TAX

CREDIT PROGRAMS AND I HAVE IN

THE PAST SAID THIS IS AS BIGOT

RECEIVING PARTY AS THE GIVING.

I THINK IT A A REALLY NICE

GESTURE.

BUT THEY DID SOMETHING AND THEY

MADE A POSITIVE STATEMENT AND I

DON'T KNOW THAT YOU SHOULD

CRITICIZE.

I WILL TELL YOU WHY I DO

CRITICIZE THEM BECAUSE THEY WILL

COME TO CLAYTON AND BUILD THOSE

SHOPS AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT

EMPTY STOREFRONTS.

SO, I HAVE A HEALTHY SKEPTICISM.

I THINK THEY HAVE A PR

PROBLEM IN THE COMMUNITY WAY

LOFT FOLKS AND I THINK THIS WAS

A LITTLE BIT OF A BLATANT PLAY

FOR SOME POSITIVE PR AND I WISH

THEY HAD MAYBE KEPT IT QUIET.

WHAT IF THEY DO?

--

IF THEY DO I'LL EAT MY WORDS.

AND I'LL HELP.

HOW MANY PROJECT ETC. HAVE

THERE BEEN IN ST. LOUIS WHERE

THEY SAY WE ARE GOING TO BUILD

SOMETHING.

AND YOU NEVER HEARD ABOUT IT.

SO WE'LL FIND OUT.

HOW ABOUT YOU WINDY -- ONE OF

THE TOP ACADEMIC HIGH SCHOOLS IN

THE AREA.

TOP ACC AND THE SCHOOL KNOWN FOR

ITS RATHER TRADITIONAL AND

CONSERVATIVE ROMAN CATHOLIC

VIEWS HAS FIRED FACULTY MEMBERS

-- TWO OF WOMEN GOT MARRIED.

THEY WERE OF FIRED BY COR --

JESU.

AND ALUMS SAY THEY ARE NOT GOING

TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE SCHOOL ANY

MORE.

WITHIN EVERY COMPANY WITHIN

EVERY ENVIRONMENT IN TERMS OF

THE WORKPLACE WHETHER YOU WORK

AT A FORTUNE 500 COMPANY OR A

CATHOLIC SCHOOL OR THE MILITARY

THERE ARE RULES AND REGULATINGS

AND I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS

ANY DIFFERENT.

THIS CHRISTIAN WITNESS STATEMENT

ACCORDING TO OLIVIA WAS ONE OF

THE TWO WOMEN -- IS SORT OF IT'S

-- IT'S NOT WHAT IS THE WORD I'M

LOOKING FOR?

IT'S NOT CONSISTENTLY CERTAIN

PORTION OF THE CHRISTIAN WOMEN'S

STATEMENTS NOT GIVEN EQUAL

WEIGHT AND IF THEY PURSUE THIS

THROUGH THE LEGAL CHANNELS --

OBVIOUSLY COR -- JESU ARE NOT

GOING TO GIVE UP ANY INFORMATION

BUT IF OTHER PEOPLE ARE FOUND TO

HAVE VIOLATED OTHER PORTIONS OF

THE CHRISTIAN WITNESS STATEMENT

THAT THEY SIGNED THEN I THINK

THE COUPLE HAS A CASE.

I THINK IT'S VERY SAD AND I

DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE

CHRISTIAN WITNESS STATEMENT.

CHRISTIAN CHARITY AND JUST BEING

-- IT'S SMALL OF CORJE S DOO-DOO

THIS -- TO DO THIS.

THOSE ARE THE RULES AND THE

REGULATINGS AND I APPLAUD THE

COUPLE BECAUSE THIS CAME TO

FRUITION BECAUSE THEY SIGNED A

MORTGAGE TOGETHER AND SOMEBODY

-- TURNED THEM IN OR WHATEVER.

THAT IN ITSELF IS A STORY.

BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET

MARRIED AND OWN A HOUSE YOU

SHOULD SIGN THE MORTGAGE PAPERS

TOGETHER AND YOU ACCEPT AND THAT

COULD BE LOSS OF YOUR JOB.

SO I THINK BOTH PARTIES ARE KIND

OF WHERE THEY INTENDED TO BE AT

THIS TIME.

IF I MAY SPEAK AS THE ONLY

PERSON ON THE PANEL WITH LESS

INFORMATION THAN BILL HAS.

I THINK IT'S POT ONLY SAD.

IT'S WRONG.

OUT OF -- IT'S WRONG.

BUT THE CHRISTIAN WITNESS

STATEMENT WHEN YOU SIGN IT

YOU'RE GOING TO UPHOLD CHRISTIAN

TEACHING.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A

SAME-SEX RELATIONSHIP AND NOT

HAVE SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE.

THIS IS WHERE THIS IS GOING TO

GET INTERESTING.

ASn& SAID IF THEY DO PURSUE THIS

THROUGH THE COURT AND IF THEY

CAN PROVE THAT IT'S SELECTIVELY

ENFORCED THEN --

AND I THINK --

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I WOULD THINK -- THAT THERE IS A

FAIRLY STRONG LEGAL DEFENSE FOR

COR -- JE SUCTION.

YOU CAN FIRE PEOPLE IF THEY ARE

CONSIDERED MINISTERS.

THEY CAN DO AND SAY THINGS AND

NOT GET FIRED BUT CHURCHES CAN

FIRE PEOPLE IF THEY ARE

CONSIDERED MINISTERS.

SO THEY GET FIRED BUT I THINK

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WHICH MEANS

UNIVERSAL SHOULD BE A BIG TENT

AND INVITE THESE PEOPLE TO BE

PART OF IT.

POPE FRANCIS MADE -- SENT

SHOCK WAVES AROUND THE UNIVERSE

WHEN HE MADE THAT STATEMENT

ABOARD THE AIRPLANE ABOUT GAY

PEOPLE AND WHO AM I TO JUDGE.

[ OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ]

TWO OUT OF THREE AIN'T BAD.

[ OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ]

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

A CHURCH HAVING ITS POSITION ON

A SUBJECT LIKE SAME-SEX MARRIAGE

OR WHATEVER AND FIRING TWO GOOD

TEACHERS.

IT'S SAD.

ALL RIGHT.

GETTING A FEW PHONE KILLS -- CALLS ON

THAT AND BY THE WAY ALVIN AND

RAY WILL BE FIELD INSURGENT

PHONE CALLS.

BILL -- I WANT TO TAKE A LOOK.

$130,000 OVER THREE YEARS ON

TRAVEL TO PLACES LIKE SAN DIEGO,

CHICAGO, NEW YORK AND PROVE

DENSE, RHODE ISLAND.

-- NOT A REAL BIG DEAL.

HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?

NOT A REAL BIG DEAL BUT I

FOUND THAT IT WRONG.

-- I DON'T THINK THAT OUR STATE

LOTTERY OFFICIALS AND I REMEMBER

THINKING IT SHOULD BE THE FIRST

WOMAN GOVERNOR.

BUT I DON'T THINK THEY NEED TO

GO TO SAN DIEGO TO LEARN HOW TO

RUN A LOTTERY.

OR GO TO FLORIDA.

I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THEY

NEED TO TRAVEL AND SPEND ANY

MONEY.

NOW THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN

SPENDING NO MONEY AND SPENDING

SOME MONEY BUT THIS IS WRONG

WHEN YOU DON'T THE FULL PAPER IN

FRONT OF YOU.

LEN WHEN -- YOU SEE THE

HEADLINE.

I'M SORRY I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS

THAT MUCH MONEY.

WAS IT TOO MUCH?

YEAH.

BUT HAD THEY BROUGHT IT HOME FOR

LESS THAN $100,000 WOULD WE BE

COMPLAINING?

THERE IS NO STORY.

ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE LOTTERY

GAIN LOTS OF VALUABLE

INFORMATION AT NATIONAL

CONFERENCES AND THEY GET THE

BEST PRACTICES OF OTHER STATES.

WHATEVER THEY BY OF THE LOTTERY

THAT IS WHAT THEY DO.

PARTICULARLY IN MISSOURI -- FOR

SOME REASON TRAVEL AND POLITICS

-- IT'S THE ONE AREA THAT --

SOMEBODY HAS GOT LIKE $400 THEY

SPENT ON A TICKET.

OH, MY GOOD.

IT'S NOTHING.

NO STORY.

THERE IS NOTHING.

TO SEE.

MOVE AND LOCAL.

WE HAVE TELEPHONES.

ALVIN REID.

MICHAEL SAM THE FIRST OPENLY GAY

PLAYER IN THE NFL IS NO LONGER A

ST. LOUIS RAM.

DROPPED BY THE TEAM.

NOT EVEN PUT ON THE PRACTICE

QUAD BUT PICKED UP BY JERRY

JONES AND THE DALLES AS COWBOYS.

I WROTE IN MY BLOG THAT THE

COWBOYS HAD NO EXCUSE FOR NOT

SIGNING HIM ON TUESDAY AND THEY

SIGNED HIM ON WE HAVE MORNING.

-- ON WEDNESDAY MORNING AND THIS

IS NOT -- THIS IS NOT SAYING

THAT IT WAS DONE BECAUSE SOME

KIND OF PREJUDICIAL.

BUT BASED ON THE PRESEASON EVEN

WITH THE RAMS HAVING THE

DEFENSIVE PROWESS IF HE WAS NOT

GAY AND HAD THE PRESEASON HE HAD

HE WOULD BE ON THE SQUAD.

PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED WITH

DISTRACTION.

DO YOU THINK HE WOULD HAVE

BEEN TAKEN OVER WESTBROOK?

THEY WOULD HAVE FOUND A WAY

TO GET HIM ON THE PRACTICE

SQUAD.

IF MICHAEL SAM HAD NOT COME

OUT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN PICKED BY

SOMEBODY WHO NEEDED A DEFENSIVE

END.

JEFF FISHER HANDLE THIS.

AND THERE ARE SO MANY TEAMS THAT

HAVE NO ARGUMENT AND IF THEY

WANT TO PRETEND THAT THIS IS NOT

ABOUT BIGOTRY THEY CAN.

YOUR WORDS WILL BE THE LAST

ONES FOR THIS EPISODE OF

DONNYBROOK.

WE INVITE EVERYONE TO WRITE US

--

STAY TUNED FOR DONNYBROOK YOUR

TURN.

RAY AND ALVIN WILL TAKE YOUR

PHONE CALLS.

THE REST OF US WILL SEE YOU NEXT

WEEK AT THIS TIME.

HAVE A GREAT WEEK.