1 00:00:00,223 --> 00:00:07,230 [HEATED DISCUSSION] 2 00:00:17,941 --> 00:00:19,008 >> "DONNYBROOK" IS MADE POSSIBLE 3 00:00:19,142 --> 00:00:21,778 THROUGH THE GENEROUS SUPPORT OF 4 00:00:21,911 --> 00:00:22,078 KETC. 5 00:00:26,312 --> 00:00:27,346 >> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, 6 00:00:27,479 --> 00:00:29,415 IT'S COLD OUTSIDE BUT, 7 00:00:29,548 --> 00:00:31,517 HOPEFULLY, WE'LL WARM YOU UP 8 00:00:31,650 --> 00:00:33,886 WITH OUR HOT TOPICS AND WARM 9 00:00:34,019 --> 00:00:34,520 PERSONALITIES. 10 00:00:34,653 --> 00:00:35,754 THANKS TO EVERYONE AT THE 11 00:00:35,888 --> 00:00:37,356 GATESWORTH FOR MAKING THIS 12 00:00:37,489 --> 00:00:38,958 PROGRAM POSSIBLE AS YOU DO WEEK 13 00:00:39,091 --> 00:00:40,159 IN AND WEEK OUT. 14 00:00:40,292 --> 00:00:41,961 A BIG SHOUT-OUT. 15 00:00:42,127 --> 00:00:44,029 LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS JOINING 16 00:00:44,163 --> 00:00:45,331 US FOR THE PROGRAM TONIGHT. 17 00:00:45,464 --> 00:00:48,233 STARTING WITH THE MEDIA VETERAN 18 00:00:48,367 --> 00:00:51,303 HERSELF, WENDY WEISE. 19 00:00:51,437 --> 00:00:57,977 FROM THE POST-DISPATCH AND STL 20 00:00:58,110 --> 00:01:00,779 STLMAG.COM BILL McCLELLAN, AND 21 00:01:00,913 --> 00:01:03,315 FROM ST. LOUIS MAGAZINE RAY 22 00:01:03,449 --> 00:01:06,085 HARTMANN AND FROM STLMAG.COM AND 23 00:01:06,218 --> 00:01:07,086 BEYOND, ALVIN REID. 24 00:01:07,219 --> 00:01:10,022 I WANT TO ASK YOU FIRST OF ALL, 25 00:01:10,155 --> 00:01:12,291 WELCOME BACK AFTER A WEEK'S AND 26 00:01:12,424 --> 00:01:13,058 SENSE. 27 00:01:13,225 --> 00:01:16,328 CHANGES IN THE RESTAURANT SCENE 28 00:01:16,462 --> 00:01:19,298 IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS WITH MIKE 29 00:01:19,431 --> 00:01:20,966 SHANNON'S HAVING BEEN IN 30 00:01:21,100 --> 00:01:23,836 DOWNTOWN FOR 30 OR SOME YEARS 31 00:01:24,003 --> 00:01:25,604 ANNOUNCING ITS GOING TO SHUTTER 32 00:01:25,738 --> 00:01:28,874 ITS DOORS AND THE SAME IS TRUE 33 00:01:29,008 --> 00:01:31,310 FOR HARRY'S, BEEN AROUND FOR 25 34 00:01:31,443 --> 00:01:31,744 YEARS. 35 00:01:31,877 --> 00:01:33,679 A LOT OF YOU THINKING IT'S 36 00:01:33,846 --> 00:01:37,316 BECAUSE OF BALLPARK VILLAGE. 37 00:01:37,549 --> 00:01:38,884 >> I GIVE MAYOR SLAY A LOT OF 38 00:01:39,018 --> 00:01:41,920 CREDIT. 39 00:01:42,087 --> 00:01:45,624 TALKING ABOUT TAX SUBSIDIES AND 40 00:01:45,758 --> 00:01:47,660 THOUGHT IT COULD TRANSFORM 41 00:01:47,793 --> 00:01:48,060 DOWNTOWN. 42 00:01:48,193 --> 00:01:49,695 I'M AFRAID IT HAS. 43 00:01:49,828 --> 00:01:50,129 [LAUGHTER] 44 00:01:50,262 --> 00:01:53,766 THE BALLPARK ISN'T THE ONLY 45 00:01:53,899 --> 00:02:01,440 THING, CRIME DOWNTOWN, AND I 46 00:02:01,573 --> 00:02:04,677 THINK DOLLARS SHANNON AND DAN 47 00:02:04,810 --> 00:02:12,718 HARRY, BOTH FELT THAT. 48 00:02:12,985 --> 00:02:16,088 >> MILE 277, LIKE SUNSET HILL, 49 00:02:16,255 --> 00:02:17,890 THEY'RE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS, 50 00:02:18,023 --> 00:02:19,558 SAYING THE IMPACT, I THOUGHT 51 00:02:19,692 --> 00:02:20,125 THAT WAS -- 52 00:02:20,325 --> 00:02:25,130 >> I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE -- 53 00:02:25,297 --> 00:02:26,899 BUT I WILL SAY THAT PLACES THAT 54 00:02:27,066 --> 00:02:28,801 HAVE BEEN THERE FOR LITERALLY 55 00:02:28,934 --> 00:02:30,869 DECADES AND WITHIN TWO YEARS OF 56 00:02:31,003 --> 00:02:32,538 BALLPARK VILLAGE OPENING THEY'RE 57 00:02:32,671 --> 00:02:34,373 SHUTTERING THE PLACES. 58 00:02:34,506 --> 00:02:35,441 THERE'S GOT TO BE A CONNECTION 59 00:02:35,574 --> 00:02:39,478 BETWEEN THE TWO. 60 00:02:39,645 --> 00:02:44,116 WHEN -- WHAT I FIND DISCONSUMER 61 00:02:44,249 --> 00:02:45,284 ALERTING, IF IT'S THE CARDINALS 62 00:02:45,451 --> 00:02:48,287 THAT ARE REMOTELY IN ANY KIND OF 63 00:02:48,420 --> 00:02:51,190 WAY INVOLVED IN SOMETHING TO BE 64 00:02:51,323 --> 00:02:53,158 LOOKED UPON NEGATIVELY, 65 00:02:53,292 --> 00:02:55,094 INSTANTLY, OH, NO, IT'S NOT 66 00:02:55,227 --> 00:02:56,562 BALLPARK VILLAGE, IT'S THIS AND 67 00:02:56,729 --> 00:02:58,397 THAT, AND CRIME IS ONE OF THOSE 68 00:02:58,597 --> 00:02:59,665 THINGS -- IT'S PART OF IT BUT 69 00:02:59,798 --> 00:03:02,968 THE WHOLE THING -- NO, THAT -- 70 00:03:03,102 --> 00:03:04,269 NO, THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS. 71 00:03:04,403 --> 00:03:06,705 I'M NOT BUYING THAT. 72 00:03:06,905 --> 00:03:09,074 >> I HAVE MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT 73 00:03:09,208 --> 00:03:13,479 THIS, MIKE SHANNON'S AND HIS 74 00:03:13,612 --> 00:03:14,313 RESTAURANT, WONDERFUL 75 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,948 INSTITUTION, INDEPENDENT OF ONE 76 00:03:16,081 --> 00:03:18,050 ANOTHER, MIKE SHANNON ANNOUNCED 77 00:03:18,183 --> 00:03:19,718 HE'S CUTTING DOWN AND THEN THE 78 00:03:19,852 --> 00:03:21,887 RESTAURANT, WHICH IS A FINE 79 00:03:22,020 --> 00:03:24,156 RESTAURANT AND HARRY'S, ALSO AN 80 00:03:24,289 --> 00:03:26,291 INSTITUTION AND A GREAT RUN, YOU 81 00:03:26,425 --> 00:03:28,694 HAVE TO REMEMBER ONE THING -- 82 00:03:28,861 --> 00:03:30,562 RESTAURANTS GENERALLY AND BARS 83 00:03:30,696 --> 00:03:31,964 WEREN'T BUILT TO LAST FOREVER. 84 00:03:32,097 --> 00:03:34,533 IF YOU START A RESTAURANT, IT'S 85 00:03:34,666 --> 00:03:36,969 GOT LESS THAN A LIFE 86 00:03:37,102 --> 00:03:38,971 EXPECTANCY -- AND 25 YEARS, 23 87 00:03:39,104 --> 00:03:41,774 FOR HARRY'S IT WAS A GREAT RUN 88 00:03:41,907 --> 00:03:44,610 WITH GREAT OWNERSHIP AND 89 00:03:44,743 --> 00:03:46,245 MANAGEMENT, THE BALLPARK 90 00:03:46,378 --> 00:03:48,080 VILLAGE, I WAS AGAINST THE 91 00:03:48,213 --> 00:03:53,018 SUBSIDY, BUT IT'S DANGEROUS TO 92 00:03:53,152 --> 00:03:54,119 START TRYING TO SATELLITE ANY 93 00:03:54,253 --> 00:03:55,020 PARTICULAR RESTAURANT. 94 00:03:55,154 --> 00:03:59,424 LIKE YOU SAY, RICKWOOD. 95 00:03:59,625 --> 00:04:04,229 >> I THINK THERE ARE A LOT -- 96 00:04:04,363 --> 00:04:04,696 KIRKWOOD. 97 00:04:04,963 --> 00:04:05,697 >> TALKING ABOUT CRIME BEING ONE 98 00:04:05,831 --> 00:04:09,134 OF THE FACTORS, YES, CRIME BEING 99 00:04:09,268 --> 00:04:10,869 A FACTOR BUT IT'S HARD REALLY TO 100 00:04:11,003 --> 00:04:13,071 BE CLEAR, TO SAY, WELL, THE 101 00:04:13,205 --> 00:04:16,208 RESTAURANT DIED BECAUSE OF 102 00:04:16,341 --> 00:04:18,777 BALLPARK VILLAGE. 103 00:04:19,011 --> 00:04:19,978 >> PLACES GENERALLY DO WELL FOR 104 00:04:20,112 --> 00:04:21,580 A BALLGAME. 105 00:04:21,713 --> 00:04:23,982 THE CARDINALS HAVE 81 GAMES A 106 00:04:24,116 --> 00:04:26,285 YEAR AND THAT'S A BIG BOOST TO 107 00:04:26,451 --> 00:04:27,486 LOCAL BUSINESSES AND WHEN YOU 108 00:04:27,619 --> 00:04:33,091 HAVE A PLACE THAT GOES WITH 109 00:04:33,258 --> 00:04:37,396 THAT, TAKES AWAY FROM A 110 00:04:37,596 --> 00:04:40,399 SHANNON'S OR HARRY'S -- 111 00:04:40,599 --> 00:04:42,267 >> I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY A 112 00:04:42,401 --> 00:04:45,771 VARIETY OF REASONS WHY SHANNON'S 113 00:04:45,904 --> 00:04:48,674 IS CLOSING AND HIS DAUGHTER, 114 00:04:48,807 --> 00:04:51,109 PAT, HIGHLY THOUGHT OF IN THE 115 00:04:51,243 --> 00:04:52,311 COMMUNITY, SHE SAID THEY'RE 116 00:04:52,444 --> 00:04:54,613 GOING AFTER THEIR -- THEIR -- 117 00:04:54,746 --> 00:04:56,782 THE FRANCHISE IN TERMS OF THE 118 00:04:56,915 --> 00:04:58,217 SHANNON'S GRILL AND AS A THAT 119 00:04:58,350 --> 00:04:59,651 KIND OF THING BUT FOR 30 YEARS, 120 00:04:59,785 --> 00:05:01,887 TO HAVE A RESTAURANT 30 YEARS IN 121 00:05:02,020 --> 00:05:03,922 A DOWNTOWN AREA, THAT'S 122 00:05:04,056 --> 00:05:04,489 REMARKABLE. 123 00:05:04,623 --> 00:05:07,492 AND HE WAS -- I MEAN, IT WAS ALL 124 00:05:07,626 --> 00:05:08,727 ABOUT DOING THE BROADCAST AFTER 125 00:05:08,894 --> 00:05:10,162 THE GAME FOR HIM. 126 00:05:10,295 --> 00:05:11,730 SO HE'S SLOWING DOWN A LITTLE 127 00:05:11,864 --> 00:05:12,931 BIT AND EARNED THE REST. 128 00:05:13,131 --> 00:05:14,466 >> I THINK SO FOR SHUFFLE I 129 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,103 AGREE WITH RAY, AT THE RISK OF 130 00:05:18,237 --> 00:05:19,471 BORING EVERYBODY BECAUSE WE'RE 131 00:05:19,605 --> 00:05:21,173 AGREEING, YOU KNOW, COMPETITION 132 00:05:21,306 --> 00:05:24,943 IS GOOD, I JUST DON'T THINK THE 133 00:05:25,077 --> 00:05:26,378 COMPETITION SHOULD BE SUBSIDIZED 134 00:05:26,511 --> 00:05:28,280 AND WE DO THAT TOO MUCH. 135 00:05:28,447 --> 00:05:30,849 THERE WAS TAX INCREMENT 136 00:05:31,016 --> 00:05:33,018 FINANCING FOR BALLPARK VILLAGE 137 00:05:33,151 --> 00:05:34,987 AND WE CAN AGREE IT WASN'T 138 00:05:35,153 --> 00:05:35,487 NECESSARY. 139 00:05:35,687 --> 00:05:36,388 >> THAT'S CLEAR. 140 00:05:36,521 --> 00:05:41,460 YOU CAN'T GO IN AND -- BY THE 141 00:05:41,627 --> 00:05:43,662 WAY, IF YOU WANT TO BE MAD, I 142 00:05:43,829 --> 00:05:44,796 DON'T THINK RIGHT NOW, ANYONE 143 00:05:44,930 --> 00:05:47,799 HAS A REAL APPETITE IN THIS TOWN 144 00:05:47,933 --> 00:05:50,369 TO BE BEATEN UP, THE ST. LOUIS 145 00:05:50,502 --> 00:05:52,004 CARDINALS OR BLUES RIGHT NOW. 146 00:05:52,137 --> 00:05:54,439 SO RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK -- 147 00:05:54,573 --> 00:05:58,043 IF YOU WANT TO BE DOWN ON 148 00:05:58,210 --> 00:05:59,378 BALLPARK VILLAGE -- 149 00:05:59,711 --> 00:06:00,245 >> THERE ARE RESTAURANTS IN 150 00:06:00,379 --> 00:06:00,979 CLAYTON THAT CLOSED. 151 00:06:01,113 --> 00:06:03,015 LIKE ONE OF OUR FAVORITE, 152 00:06:03,148 --> 00:06:05,284 JIMMY'S CLOSED ON JANUARY 4th. 153 00:06:05,450 --> 00:06:05,717 SO -- 154 00:06:05,918 --> 00:06:06,685 >> THEY DO THAT. 155 00:06:06,818 --> 00:06:07,686 [SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY] 156 00:06:07,886 --> 00:06:08,854 >> THEY COME AND GO, THAT'S WHAT 157 00:06:08,987 --> 00:06:14,893 THEY DO. 158 00:06:15,127 --> 00:06:16,561 >> THAT'S THE OTHER THING, 159 00:06:16,695 --> 00:06:18,230 BALLPARK VILLAGE, AT LEAST I WAS 160 00:06:18,363 --> 00:06:19,765 TOLD, CAME TO THE LOCAL 161 00:06:19,898 --> 00:06:22,334 OPERATORS TO GET THEM TO TAKE 162 00:06:22,467 --> 00:06:25,570 SOME OF THESE ENORMOUS -- IT WAS 163 00:06:25,704 --> 00:06:27,306 LIKE 35 BUCKS A FOOT AND A LOT 164 00:06:27,439 --> 00:06:29,574 OF TIMES PEOPLE WERE UPSET, THEY 165 00:06:29,708 --> 00:06:31,944 HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO THERE 166 00:06:32,077 --> 00:06:33,412 AND I'VE NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY IT 167 00:06:33,545 --> 00:06:34,746 WOULD WORK FOR A NATIONAL 168 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,882 OPERATOR AND NOT A LOCAL 169 00:06:37,015 --> 00:06:38,450 OPERATOR BUT THEY REALLY DID TRY 170 00:06:38,583 --> 00:06:40,819 TO GET THE LOCAL FOLKS BEFORE 171 00:06:40,953 --> 00:06:42,254 THE NATIONAL. 172 00:06:42,454 --> 00:06:44,156 >> ALVIN REID, SPEAKING OF 173 00:06:44,289 --> 00:06:47,292 RESTAURANTS, JOHN SARACINO, 174 00:06:47,459 --> 00:06:50,929 WHO -- MICHAEL SARACINO, WHOSE 175 00:06:51,063 --> 00:06:54,933 UNCLE OWNED CHRISTMAS PANCAKES 176 00:06:55,067 --> 00:06:58,570 WAS SENTENCED TO TWO YEARS IN 177 00:06:58,704 --> 00:07:01,540 FEDERAL PRISON BY A JUDGE WHO 178 00:07:01,673 --> 00:07:04,343 ANNOUNCED THAT THE COUNTY 179 00:07:04,476 --> 00:07:08,180 EXECUTIVE STENGER AND POLICE 180 00:07:08,313 --> 00:07:13,085 CHIEF, DON BELL FAR -- BELMAR 181 00:07:13,218 --> 00:07:16,288 WROTE LETTERS TO THE JUDGE 182 00:07:16,421 --> 00:07:20,692 URGING LENIENCY AND CAUSED A 183 00:07:20,826 --> 00:07:26,698 FEWEFUROR AND ASKED BOTH OFFICIALS 184 00:07:26,832 --> 00:07:28,800 TO WRITE LETTERS ON BEHALF OF 185 00:07:28,934 --> 00:07:30,435 HIS NEPHEW. 186 00:07:30,569 --> 00:07:31,770 DO YOU THINK IT WAS APPROPRIATE 187 00:07:31,903 --> 00:07:33,638 HE RESIGN FROM OFFICE? 188 00:07:33,839 --> 00:07:34,873 >> I THINK IT WAS APPROPRIATE, 189 00:07:35,007 --> 00:07:36,475 AND I THINK IT WAS TOTALLY 190 00:07:36,641 --> 00:07:37,876 INAPPROPRIATE FOR THE POLICE 191 00:07:38,010 --> 00:07:39,344 CHIEF TO WRITE A LETTER. 192 00:07:39,478 --> 00:07:42,514 YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR LENIENCY 193 00:07:42,647 --> 00:07:45,050 AND THEN THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE 194 00:07:45,183 --> 00:07:46,451 WHO I GUESS APPOINTED THE 195 00:07:46,585 --> 00:07:49,855 GENTLEMAN TO THE JOB AND A 196 00:07:49,988 --> 00:07:51,890 SUPPORTER, THIS IS JUST -- THIS 197 00:07:52,024 --> 00:07:53,792 IS SCANDALOUS ON ITS OWN. 198 00:07:53,925 --> 00:07:55,527 BUT LET'S TURN BACK THE CLOCK 199 00:07:55,660 --> 00:07:57,963 TWO YEARS AGO AND THE SITTING 200 00:07:58,096 --> 00:08:00,298 COUNTY EXECUTIVE HAD ONE OF HIS 201 00:08:00,432 --> 00:08:02,234 MAIN STAFFERS RESIGN BECAUSE HE 202 00:08:02,401 --> 00:08:04,903 WAS SUPPORTING THE STAFFER'S SON 203 00:08:05,037 --> 00:08:07,773 WHO HAD BEEN CONVICTED OF A 204 00:08:07,906 --> 00:08:10,575 FELONY DRUG CHARGE, THIS WOULD 205 00:08:10,709 --> 00:08:16,748 BE THE ATOM BOMB OF -- ATOMIC 206 00:08:16,882 --> 00:08:18,283 BATON ROUGE OF SCANDALS. 207 00:08:18,417 --> 00:08:19,684 AND TO DISMISS -- 208 00:08:19,951 --> 00:08:21,953 >> YOU'RE SAYING IT COULD HAPPEN 209 00:08:22,087 --> 00:08:25,390 ON DULY'S WATCH -- 210 00:08:25,590 --> 00:08:27,959 >> IT'S HORRIBLE IT HAPPENS ON 211 00:08:28,093 --> 00:08:28,727 ANYONE'S WATCH. 212 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:29,761 >> I DON'T KNOW. 213 00:08:29,961 --> 00:08:32,597 >> I THINK WE HAVE ALL -- WE ALL 214 00:08:32,731 --> 00:08:35,834 HAVE NIECES AND NEPHEWS WE WOULD 215 00:08:35,967 --> 00:08:36,902 DO ANYTHING FOR. 216 00:08:37,035 --> 00:08:39,037 THE FACT THAT MR. SARACINO SAID 217 00:08:39,171 --> 00:08:47,279 IT'S BEEN GROSSLY MISCONSTRUED. 218 00:08:47,412 --> 00:08:52,017 $130,000, CONSTITUENT RELATION, 219 00:08:52,150 --> 00:08:55,020 BUT WHEN YOU'RE PART OF A 220 00:08:55,153 --> 00:08:56,254 GOVERNMENT, YOU HAVE TO 221 00:08:56,388 --> 00:08:58,090 UNDERSTAND THAT THE APPEARANCE 222 00:08:58,223 --> 00:09:01,293 OF IMPROPRIETY IS A VERY, 223 00:09:01,426 --> 00:09:01,726 VERY -- 224 00:09:02,060 --> 00:09:03,228 >> IN THE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS, IF 225 00:09:03,395 --> 00:09:07,499 THEY HAD -- IF THEY HAD 226 00:09:07,632 --> 00:09:10,635 INTERFERED WITH THE ARREST, I 227 00:09:10,802 --> 00:09:13,071 COULD SEE THAT, BUT ONCE THE 228 00:09:13,238 --> 00:09:14,606 SENTENCING IS -- EVERYBODY IS 229 00:09:14,739 --> 00:09:16,408 INVITED TO WRITE A LETTER, 230 00:09:16,541 --> 00:09:18,743 CONNECTED AND NOT CONNECTED AND 231 00:09:18,877 --> 00:09:19,911 IT'S NOT NECESSARY THAT THE 232 00:09:20,045 --> 00:09:22,914 JUDGE READ THE LETTER BUT ANYONE 233 00:09:23,048 --> 00:09:24,683 CAN WRITE A LETTER. 234 00:09:24,850 --> 00:09:26,184 I'VE DONE IT, YOU'VE PROBABLY 235 00:09:26,318 --> 00:09:28,687 DONE IT. 236 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:29,488 >> CHARLEY -- 237 00:09:29,688 --> 00:09:31,990 >> FIRST OF ALL, I -- I DON'T 238 00:09:32,124 --> 00:09:34,259 SEE THE SCANDAL IN THIS AT ALL, 239 00:09:34,392 --> 00:09:36,962 ON ANYONE'S PART AND BY THE WAY 240 00:09:37,095 --> 00:09:38,396 CHARLEY APPOINTED SARACINO TO 241 00:09:38,530 --> 00:09:40,031 THE POLICES FOR. 242 00:09:40,165 --> 00:09:43,201 I DON'T THINK THAT'S SCANDALOUS. 243 00:09:43,401 --> 00:09:44,202 >> [INAUDIBLE] UNDER ARREST? 244 00:09:44,402 --> 00:09:46,138 NO, I'M SAYING, JOHN SARACINO, I 245 00:09:46,271 --> 00:09:47,305 DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT JOHN 246 00:09:47,439 --> 00:09:49,875 SARACINO, A LONG STAY ON THE 247 00:09:50,008 --> 00:09:52,277 POLICE FORCE, IT'S A NEWS STORY 248 00:09:52,410 --> 00:09:54,646 IF SOMEONE UP FOR FEDERAL 249 00:09:54,779 --> 00:09:55,914 SENTENCING DOESN'T GET LETTERS 250 00:09:56,047 --> 00:09:56,715 WRITTEN FOR THEM. 251 00:09:56,848 --> 00:10:02,420 AND I'M WITH YOU, IF STENGER OR 252 00:10:02,554 --> 00:10:03,622 BELMAR HAD MEDDLED AND BEHIND 253 00:10:03,755 --> 00:10:06,391 THE SCENES AND THE POST-DISPATCH 254 00:10:06,525 --> 00:10:11,663 FOUND OUT, YOU'VE GOT A GREAT 255 00:10:11,796 --> 00:10:13,231 STORY. 256 00:10:13,365 --> 00:10:16,067 IT'S NEWS, BUT IT'S NOT 257 00:10:16,201 --> 00:10:17,702 SCANDALOUS, IT'S OPEN AND 258 00:10:17,836 --> 00:10:19,171 TRANSPARENT AND I WANT TO SAY 259 00:10:19,304 --> 00:10:22,774 THIS, AS FAR AS BELMAR SAID, HE 260 00:10:22,908 --> 00:10:28,213 DID NOT ASK FOR LENIENCESY, HE 261 00:10:28,380 --> 00:10:34,286 SAID I'M ASKING -- LENIENCY, I'M 262 00:10:34,419 --> 00:10:35,787 ASKING IN FOR OF THE FAMILY. 263 00:10:35,987 --> 00:10:38,323 >> THE LETTERS WERE SEALED. 264 00:10:38,456 --> 00:10:40,358 ASKED THE JUDGE TO UNSEAL THE 265 00:10:40,492 --> 00:10:40,892 LETTERS. 266 00:10:41,126 --> 00:10:47,432 I THOUGHT IT WAS SCANDALOUS AND 267 00:10:47,566 --> 00:10:49,901 BELMAR WROTE ON BEHALF OF THIS 268 00:10:50,035 --> 00:10:52,337 YOUNG MAN WHO WAS ARRESTED ON A 269 00:10:52,470 --> 00:10:53,705 DRUG CHARGE. 270 00:10:53,838 --> 00:10:58,143 IT WASN'T JUST DRUGS, HE HAD 271 00:10:58,276 --> 00:11:01,379 FIRE-BOMBED A HOUSE. 272 00:11:01,546 --> 00:11:02,414 AND -- 273 00:11:02,614 --> 00:11:04,149 >> I FOUND FAULT WITH THE JUDGE, 274 00:11:04,282 --> 00:11:07,018 WHO I LIKED BUT FOUND FAULT WITH 275 00:11:07,152 --> 00:11:09,688 HER FOR ALLOWING THE DEFENDANT, 276 00:11:09,821 --> 00:11:13,658 DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO HIS WEDDING 277 00:11:13,792 --> 00:11:17,996 AT CAPTIVA ISLAND, SOMETIMES 278 00:11:18,163 --> 00:11:20,966 THESE FEDERAL JUDGES -- 279 00:11:21,166 --> 00:11:22,067 >> FIRST, I DON'T THINK I DON'T 280 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,735 DISAGREE WITH THE LAST THING YOU 281 00:11:23,868 --> 00:11:25,237 SAID ABOUT THE JUDGE, BUT KEEP 282 00:11:25,370 --> 00:11:27,472 IN MIND, AMONG THE PEOPLE 283 00:11:27,639 --> 00:11:29,274 CALLING FOR LENIENCY, WAS THE 284 00:11:29,407 --> 00:11:32,644 GOVERNMENT AND THE ARRESTING 285 00:11:32,777 --> 00:11:35,146 FOLKS BECAUSE -- THEY ASKED FOR 286 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,148 A HEAVIER SENTENCE THAN HE GOT, 287 00:11:37,282 --> 00:11:39,351 RAY, AND THEY -- AND THEY 288 00:11:39,484 --> 00:11:40,485 SPECIFICATIONALLY TALKED ABOUT 289 00:11:40,619 --> 00:11:43,655 THE LETTER IN A NEGATIVE WAY. 290 00:11:43,822 --> 00:11:45,724 [SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY] 291 00:11:45,957 --> 00:11:48,526 >> IT IS TRUE, THAT SOMEONE IN 292 00:11:48,660 --> 00:11:50,629 THE SYNDICATE FIRE-BOMBED 293 00:11:50,762 --> 00:11:52,664 SOMEONE'S HOUSE BUT THE YOUNG 294 00:11:52,831 --> 00:11:55,066 MAN WASN'T CHARGED WITH THAT -- 295 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:55,700 LET ME SPEAK. 296 00:11:55,834 --> 00:11:58,470 HE WAS CHARGED WITH POSSESSING 297 00:11:58,637 --> 00:12:00,171 MARIJUANA WHICH MOST PEOPLE ON 298 00:12:00,372 --> 00:12:02,207 THIS PANEL SEEM TO THINK IT'S AN 299 00:12:02,340 --> 00:12:02,974 OK THING. 300 00:12:03,108 --> 00:12:05,877 AND WHY IS IT THAT HE'S BEING 301 00:12:06,044 --> 00:12:08,280 CRUCIFIED FOR DOING WHAT IS 302 00:12:08,446 --> 00:12:10,282 ACTUALLY LEGAL IN COLORADO 303 00:12:10,415 --> 00:12:10,815 AND -- 304 00:12:11,016 --> 00:12:12,083 >> THE QUESTION WASN'T WHETHER 305 00:12:12,217 --> 00:12:13,685 HE WAS INVOLVED IN SELLING POT. 306 00:12:13,885 --> 00:12:15,487 I COULD CARE LESS. 307 00:12:15,654 --> 00:12:18,189 THE FIRE-BOMBING THING IS A 308 00:12:18,323 --> 00:12:19,958 SERIOUS THING BUT ONCE YOU'RE 309 00:12:20,091 --> 00:12:21,660 CONVICTED OF SOMETHING, I DON'T 310 00:12:21,793 --> 00:12:23,328 LIKE THE IDEA OF THE CHIEF OF 311 00:12:23,461 --> 00:12:25,030 POLICE WRITING A LETTER TO THE 312 00:12:25,163 --> 00:12:26,164 JUDGE THAT THIS IS A GREAT 313 00:12:26,298 --> 00:12:30,201 FAMILY AND -- AND STEVE STENGER, 314 00:12:30,335 --> 00:12:34,272 THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE ASKING FOR 315 00:12:34,406 --> 00:12:35,273 LENIENCY. 316 00:12:35,473 --> 00:12:37,509 >> IT'S PART OF PROCESS, I DARE 317 00:12:37,676 --> 00:12:39,411 YOU TO FIND A FEDERAL OTHER 318 00:12:39,544 --> 00:12:41,846 STATE CASE IN SENTENCING WHEN 319 00:12:41,980 --> 00:12:42,881 LETTERS WEREN'T WRITTEN. 320 00:12:43,081 --> 00:12:44,616 >> HERE'S THE POINT -- 321 00:12:44,816 --> 00:12:45,984 >> HERE'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE 322 00:12:46,117 --> 00:12:49,621 WRITTEN LETTERS. 323 00:12:49,754 --> 00:12:53,958 MAYA ANGELOU -- 324 00:12:54,159 --> 00:12:55,393 >> THIS IS WHY THIS IS 325 00:12:55,527 --> 00:12:56,895 SCANDALOUS, CHARLIE, THEY'RE NOT 326 00:12:57,028 --> 00:13:00,765 WRITING LETTERS FOR LENIENCY, 327 00:13:00,932 --> 00:13:02,067 BUT ONLY BECAUSE IT'S THEIR 328 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,802 BUDDY AND PAL. 329 00:13:03,935 --> 00:13:05,470 THEY PROBABLY WON'T WRITE 330 00:13:05,603 --> 00:13:07,672 ANOTHER LETTER OF LENIENCY FOR 331 00:13:07,839 --> 00:13:08,707 ANYONE. 332 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,276 A 75-YEAR-OLD WOMAN WHO SOLD A 333 00:13:11,409 --> 00:13:15,447 DIME BAG -- 334 00:13:15,580 --> 00:13:16,781 [SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY] 335 00:13:16,981 --> 00:13:18,416 >> ALVIN, YOU WRITE THEM FOR 336 00:13:18,550 --> 00:13:22,821 YOUR FRIENDS -- 337 00:13:23,021 --> 00:13:25,857 >> STOP, BY THE WAY -- 338 00:13:26,057 --> 00:13:27,359 >> I UNDERSTAND, BILL'S POINT, 339 00:13:27,492 --> 00:13:28,927 BUT I THINK -- I DO UNDERSTAND 340 00:13:29,060 --> 00:13:31,730 THAT, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT 341 00:13:31,863 --> 00:13:33,231 THE CONNECTION IT MIGHT BE TO 342 00:13:33,365 --> 00:13:34,833 YOUR POINT, HE WASES A POLICE 343 00:13:34,966 --> 00:13:36,067 COMMISSIONER AND YOU'VE GOT A 344 00:13:36,201 --> 00:13:37,202 POLICE OFFICIAL, I UNDERSTAND 345 00:13:37,335 --> 00:13:39,371 THAT, BUT I ALSO THINK -- KEEP 346 00:13:39,571 --> 00:13:41,873 IN MIND SOMETHING ELSE, THE HEAD 347 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,775 OF THE POLICE UNION IS TRYING TO 348 00:13:43,908 --> 00:13:46,378 MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF THIS, IS 349 00:13:46,511 --> 00:13:48,580 COURAGELY NEGOTIATING -- HE SAID 350 00:13:48,713 --> 00:13:54,753 SOMETHING ABOUT BEMMAR. 351 00:13:54,886 --> 00:13:55,620 [SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY] 352 00:13:55,754 --> 00:14:00,992 A VOTE OF NO CONVERSATION ABOUT 353 00:14:01,159 --> 00:14:02,327 BELMAR, DON'T -- OTHER THAN THIS 354 00:14:02,494 --> 00:14:04,629 STORY, DO WE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE 355 00:14:04,796 --> 00:14:05,497 UPSET ABOUT? 356 00:14:05,697 --> 00:14:08,099 >> I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'LL SAY 357 00:14:08,233 --> 00:14:08,566 THIS -- 358 00:14:08,767 --> 00:14:09,968 >> IF -- HE'S GOT TO STOP. 359 00:14:10,168 --> 00:14:12,937 >> BUT THE UNION -- THE UNION 360 00:14:13,071 --> 00:14:16,374 PRESIDENT IS USING IT AS PART 361 00:14:16,508 --> 00:14:16,808 OF -- 362 00:14:17,008 --> 00:14:17,976 >> IF BLACK LIVES MATTER SAY 363 00:14:18,109 --> 00:14:19,210 THEY HAVE NO CONVERSATION IN THE 364 00:14:19,344 --> 00:14:20,779 CHIEF, I CAN SEE WHY THEY SAID 365 00:14:20,945 --> 00:14:21,179 THAT. 366 00:14:21,379 --> 00:14:24,682 >> I WROTE A LETTER ON BEHALF OF 367 00:14:24,816 --> 00:14:26,084 [INAUDIBLE] 368 00:14:26,284 --> 00:14:27,118 >> SO WHAT? 369 00:14:27,252 --> 00:14:28,420 NO ONE CARES ABOUT THAT. 370 00:14:28,553 --> 00:14:29,888 [SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY] 371 00:14:30,155 --> 00:14:31,990 >> I DID IT BECAUSE I THOUGHT 372 00:14:32,157 --> 00:14:34,058 SOME OF HIS WORK WITH THE -- 373 00:14:34,192 --> 00:14:36,995 [SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY] 374 00:14:37,195 --> 00:14:38,563 >> A SUPERSTAR BUT YOU'RE NOT AN 375 00:14:38,696 --> 00:14:44,536 ELECTED GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL. 376 00:14:44,669 --> 00:14:46,204 [SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY] 377 00:14:46,438 --> 00:14:47,205 >> ALL THE TIME AND BY THE WAY, 378 00:14:47,338 --> 00:14:53,411 STENGER HAS A GUY, THE ACTUAL 379 00:14:53,545 --> 00:14:54,112 DEFENDANT -- 380 00:14:54,312 --> 00:14:55,680 >> IT'S NOT A SCANDAL. 381 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,183 >> FINAL WORD, IF THE KID DID 382 00:14:58,316 --> 00:15:00,485 THE CRIME, HE SHOULD DO THE TIME 383 00:15:00,652 --> 00:15:02,187 BUT ANYONE IS ALLOWED TO WRITE A 384 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,056 LETTER TO A JUDGE. 385 00:15:05,190 --> 00:15:06,891 IT'S THE JUDGE -- IF THE JUDGE 386 00:15:07,025 --> 00:15:08,927 TAKES MONEY OR SOMETHING, THAT'S 387 00:15:09,060 --> 00:15:09,627 ANOTHER THING. 388 00:15:09,828 --> 00:15:12,397 >> WHAT HE -- LIMBAUGH DOWN 389 00:15:12,597 --> 00:15:13,832 THERE, WRITING A LETTER, 390 00:15:13,965 --> 00:15:18,269 EVERYTHING HE HAS DONE HELPED 391 00:15:18,403 --> 00:15:21,139 SOMEONE, ALWAYS SCRUTINIZED. 392 00:15:21,272 --> 00:15:24,142 BUT -- BUT FOR SOME IT'S A-OK IN 393 00:15:24,275 --> 00:15:27,178 ST. LOUIS COUNTY. 394 00:15:27,378 --> 00:15:28,046 >> I WILL SAY -- 395 00:15:28,179 --> 00:15:29,581 [SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY] 396 00:15:29,814 --> 00:15:31,182 >> ALL RIGHT, GOT TO -- GOT TO 397 00:15:31,316 --> 00:15:33,184 MOVE ON, GUYS, TO WENDY WEISE 398 00:15:33,318 --> 00:15:35,520 WITH A FRONT PAGE STORY IN THE 399 00:15:35,787 --> 00:15:37,922 "THE NEW YORK TIMES" ABOUT A 400 00:15:38,056 --> 00:15:39,390 ST. LOUIS COUPLE HERE ON THE EVE 401 00:15:39,524 --> 00:15:43,228 OF THE 43rd ANNIVERSARY OF THE 402 00:15:43,394 --> 00:15:44,762 ROE V. WADE DECISION. 403 00:15:44,896 --> 00:15:47,298 THIS COUPLE, NOW DIVORCED, 404 00:15:47,432 --> 00:15:49,968 CREATED EMBRYOS WHILE THEY WERE 405 00:15:50,134 --> 00:15:51,736 MARRIED AND NOW THEY'RE DIVORCED 406 00:15:51,870 --> 00:15:53,505 AND SHE WANTS TO PROCREATE WITH 407 00:15:53,638 --> 00:15:58,676 THEM, HE WANTS THEM DISCARDED 408 00:15:58,810 --> 00:16:01,479 BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT HER TO 409 00:16:01,613 --> 00:16:04,382 GIVE BIRTH TO HIS PROGENY. 410 00:16:04,616 --> 00:16:06,784 >> I KEEP THINKING OF THE LATE 411 00:16:06,951 --> 00:16:08,152 GREAT FICTION WRITER MICHAEL 412 00:16:08,286 --> 00:16:13,558 CITEN SAID, JUST BECAUSE -- 413 00:16:13,691 --> 00:16:15,894 CREGHTON SAID JUST BECAUSE WE 414 00:16:16,027 --> 00:16:16,895 CAN, SHOULD WE? 415 00:16:17,028 --> 00:16:20,298 THE FACT THAT IT WASN'T A ACT -- 416 00:16:20,431 --> 00:16:22,200 THAT IT WAS A ACRIMONIOUS 417 00:16:22,333 --> 00:16:24,736 DIVORCE, COMES INTO PLAY AND THE 418 00:16:24,869 --> 00:16:27,138 FACT THAT THE EMBRYOS ARE 419 00:16:27,305 --> 00:16:28,373 CONSIDERED MARITAL PROPERTY, 420 00:16:28,506 --> 00:16:30,808 THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MOMENT. 421 00:16:30,942 --> 00:16:31,976 I DON'T UNDERSTAND AND, OF 422 00:16:32,143 --> 00:16:33,511 COURSE, A SCIENTIST WOULD GIVE 423 00:16:33,645 --> 00:16:40,285 YOU A MUCH BETTER DESCRIPTION OR 424 00:16:40,451 --> 00:16:42,554 DEFINITION BUT TO MY MIND, THIS 425 00:16:42,687 --> 00:16:46,591 BATCH OF EMBRYOS CREATED 426 00:16:46,724 --> 00:16:47,959 CHILDREN, THIS COUPLE, TO 427 00:16:48,092 --> 00:16:50,595 BASICALLY SAY, MY SCOURING PAD, 428 00:16:50,728 --> 00:16:54,098 WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT PETRI 429 00:16:54,232 --> 00:16:57,135 DISH -- I THINK IT'S GRIZZLY. 430 00:16:57,368 --> 00:16:58,002 >> I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 431 00:16:58,169 --> 00:16:58,503 THAT. 432 00:16:58,636 --> 00:17:01,539 BUT -- BUT, I MEAN, IT'S A VERY 433 00:17:01,673 --> 00:17:02,640 DEEPLY PERSONAL EMOTIONAL 434 00:17:02,774 --> 00:17:03,541 RELIGIOUS ISSUE. 435 00:17:03,675 --> 00:17:05,510 AND I HAVE NO DESIRE TO ARGUE 436 00:17:05,677 --> 00:17:07,478 YOU'RE WRONG, OTHER THAN THAT I 437 00:17:07,612 --> 00:17:09,380 DON'T THINK IN IT CASE THE LAW 438 00:17:09,514 --> 00:17:11,416 SHOULD APPLY TO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT 439 00:17:11,549 --> 00:17:13,051 NOT SHARE YOUR VIEWS. 440 00:17:13,184 --> 00:17:18,756 BUT THE GENERAL ISSUE OF 441 00:17:18,923 --> 00:17:20,491 EMBRYONIC STEM CELLS, IT COMES 442 00:17:20,625 --> 00:17:23,595 DOWN TO WHETHER YOU CONSIDER THE 443 00:17:23,728 --> 00:17:24,662 EMBRYOS TO BE HUMAN BEINGS OR 444 00:17:24,796 --> 00:17:25,029 NOT. 445 00:17:25,163 --> 00:17:26,431 BUT IN THIS CASE, IT'S 446 00:17:26,564 --> 00:17:29,834 COMPLICATED BY A CONTRACT. 447 00:17:29,968 --> 00:17:33,538 I HAPPEN TO SIDE WITH THE DAD 448 00:17:33,671 --> 00:17:36,941 BEING RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH THAT HE 449 00:17:37,075 --> 00:17:39,544 DOESN'T WANT HIS ESTRANGED, 450 00:17:39,677 --> 00:17:41,045 ACRIMONIOUS DIVORCE, THAT HE 451 00:17:41,179 --> 00:17:42,513 DOESN'T WANT HER TO HAVE HIS 452 00:17:42,647 --> 00:17:44,649 CHILDREN AND I SIDE WITH HIM, 453 00:17:44,782 --> 00:17:46,651 BUT THEN THERE'S THE OTHER 454 00:17:46,784 --> 00:17:47,652 QUESTION WHETHER HE HAD AGREED 455 00:17:47,785 --> 00:17:50,989 TO IT OR NOT, WHICH MAKES IT A 456 00:17:51,122 --> 00:17:54,292 COMPLICATED CASE BECAUSE I AGREE 457 00:17:54,425 --> 00:17:57,161 WITH THE ATTORNEY SAID REALLY 458 00:17:57,295 --> 00:17:58,262 YOU SHOULD BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN 459 00:17:58,396 --> 00:18:01,399 YOU ENTER INTO ONE OF THESE. 460 00:18:01,532 --> 00:18:02,834 BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG PART OF 461 00:18:02,967 --> 00:18:05,370 THIS CASE, WHETHER HE AGREED TO 462 00:18:05,503 --> 00:18:07,205 IT OR NOT. 463 00:18:07,405 --> 00:18:09,674 >> ANOTHER TOPIC, BILL, THE 464 00:18:09,807 --> 00:18:12,810 STATE AUDITOR, NICOLE GALLOWAY, 465 00:18:12,944 --> 00:18:17,281 RECENTLY ISSUED AN AUDIT ON THE 466 00:18:17,415 --> 00:18:17,782 RECORDER. 467 00:18:17,915 --> 00:18:20,885 DEEDS AND MISDEEDS, SHARON 468 00:18:21,019 --> 00:18:24,088 CARPENTER SAYING SHE BOUGHT A 469 00:18:24,222 --> 00:18:25,890 $2,700 RUG FOR HER OFFICE, 470 00:18:26,024 --> 00:18:27,759 DIDN'T KEEP TRACK OF EMPLOYEE 471 00:18:27,892 --> 00:18:28,826 VACATION TIME. 472 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,495 DIDN'T KEEP THE MILES ON THE CAR 473 00:18:30,628 --> 00:18:31,863 THAT WAS ISSUED TO HER. 474 00:18:31,996 --> 00:18:35,633 AND ISSUED ABOUT $200,000 OF 475 00:18:35,767 --> 00:18:37,068 IMPROVEMENTS IN NO GOOD 476 00:18:37,201 --> 00:18:38,903 CONTRACT -- NO-BID CONTRACTS. 477 00:18:39,037 --> 00:18:40,805 DO YOU THINK SHE'S IN TROUBLE? 478 00:18:41,005 --> 00:18:43,908 >> NO, NO, ADMITTEDLY I LIKE 479 00:18:44,075 --> 00:18:45,777 SHARON CARPENTER, MY ONLY GRUDGE 480 00:18:45,910 --> 00:18:48,680 IS I THINK SHE'S AT AN AGE WHERE 481 00:18:48,813 --> 00:18:49,714 SHE SHOULD HAVE RETIRED AND 482 00:18:49,847 --> 00:18:51,482 LIVED ON A PENSION. 483 00:18:51,616 --> 00:18:53,918 AS FAR AS THE AUDIT, THERE 484 00:18:54,052 --> 00:18:55,319 WASN'T MUCH NEW THERE. 485 00:18:55,486 --> 00:18:58,589 NOT KEEPING TRACK OF HER 486 00:18:58,723 --> 00:18:59,691 EMPLOYEES' VACATION, AS AN 487 00:18:59,824 --> 00:19:00,825 EMPLOYEE, GOOD FOR SHARON. 488 00:19:00,958 --> 00:19:02,427 THE MAIN THING I LOOK AT THAT 489 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,263 AUDIT AND THINK, WE'VE SPENT 490 00:19:05,396 --> 00:19:08,366 $16 MILLION ON THIS GOOFY 491 00:19:08,499 --> 00:19:10,168 STADIUM PROJECT, AND NOTHING'S 492 00:19:10,301 --> 00:19:12,503 EVER GOING TO COME OF IT. 493 00:19:12,704 --> 00:19:13,538 >> YOU'RE RIGHT. 494 00:19:13,738 --> 00:19:14,806 >> AND YET PEOPLE GOT HUNDREDS 495 00:19:14,939 --> 00:19:17,375 OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND 496 00:19:17,508 --> 00:19:18,576 SPENT $16 MILLION AND EVERYBODY 497 00:19:18,710 --> 00:19:20,578 IS TRYING TO SAY, LET'S FORGET 498 00:19:20,712 --> 00:19:22,580 ABOUT THIS AND MOVE ON AND DAVE 499 00:19:22,747 --> 00:19:25,483 PEACOCK DID A WONDERFUL JOB AND 500 00:19:25,616 --> 00:19:29,120 BOB, AND NOW WE'RE AFTER SHARON 501 00:19:29,253 --> 00:19:32,256 CARPENTER FOR A $2,700 RUG. 502 00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:33,357 I DON'T GET IT. 503 00:19:33,558 --> 00:19:35,126 >> THAT'S HARD TO ARGUE, BUT 504 00:19:35,259 --> 00:19:37,962 SHE'S A RECORDER AND ATTENTION 505 00:19:38,129 --> 00:19:39,797 TO DETAIL IS BENEFICIAL. 506 00:19:39,931 --> 00:19:43,835 AND I THINK THAT WHEN YOU HAVE 507 00:19:43,968 --> 00:19:46,671 FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN 508 00:19:46,871 --> 00:19:48,673 ALLEGEDLY ACCORDING TO THE 509 00:19:48,806 --> 00:19:51,309 AUDIT, FROM THE RECORD 510 00:19:51,442 --> 00:19:53,511 RESTORATION ACT AND THEY TURN 511 00:19:53,644 --> 00:19:56,681 INTO CARPETING OR ENTERTAINMENT 512 00:19:56,814 --> 00:19:58,549 OR FURNISHINGS OR DECORATIONS, I 513 00:19:58,683 --> 00:20:01,986 LOVE A NICE DECORATED OFFICE AS 514 00:20:02,186 --> 00:20:03,855 MUCH AS ANYONE ELSE. 515 00:20:04,055 --> 00:20:04,756 >> [INAUDIBLE] 516 00:20:04,956 --> 00:20:05,790 >> BUT THIS IS -- YOU KNOW, THIS 517 00:20:05,923 --> 00:20:08,659 IS THE RECORDER OF DEEDS. 518 00:20:08,793 --> 00:20:09,727 SO YEAH, PLEASE FOLLOW THE 519 00:20:09,861 --> 00:20:11,863 LETTER OF THE LAW. 520 00:20:12,063 --> 00:20:14,132 AND BE -- FUNDS HAVE BEEN -- 521 00:20:14,332 --> 00:20:15,900 >> I THOUGHT IT WAS SILLY TO 522 00:20:16,033 --> 00:20:19,370 HAVE A $2,700 CARP ETC. ON THE 523 00:20:19,537 --> 00:20:21,639 FRONT PAGE OF THE PAPER. 524 00:20:21,839 --> 00:20:23,808 >> I ONLY FEEL A LITTLE, I FELT 525 00:20:23,941 --> 00:20:26,611 KIND OF -- JUST SAD WHEN ONE OF 526 00:20:26,744 --> 00:20:33,050 OUR BIG SCANDALS -- CAN DO 527 00:20:33,184 --> 00:20:34,919 BETTER THAN THAT. 528 00:20:35,052 --> 00:20:38,589 MAYBE BECAUSE I WOULD NOT 529 00:20:38,723 --> 00:20:40,792 NORMALLY AGREE, BUT BECAUSE IT'S 530 00:20:40,925 --> 00:20:42,960 SO FRESH AFTER THIS STADIUM -- 531 00:20:43,094 --> 00:20:44,529 LIKE WE'RE STARTING TO SEE -- 532 00:20:44,662 --> 00:20:47,165 SOME GUY, I GUESS HE USED TO 533 00:20:47,298 --> 00:20:50,902 WORK FOR A CONGRESSMAN, GOT 534 00:20:51,035 --> 00:20:55,773 $75,000 FOR DESIGNING A MINORITY 535 00:20:55,907 --> 00:20:59,644 EMPLOYMENT PLAN, WHATEVER IT 536 00:20:59,777 --> 00:21:03,014 WAS, AND BLESS THEIR HEARTS HOW 537 00:21:03,147 --> 00:21:07,151 HARD THEY WORK, $900,000 AND 538 00:21:07,318 --> 00:21:09,720 WHEN WE'RE FRESH OFF THIS 539 00:21:09,887 --> 00:21:11,789 PAINFUL STADIUM ISSUE, IT REALLY 540 00:21:11,923 --> 00:21:15,359 IS HARD TO BE TALKING ABOUT A 541 00:21:15,493 --> 00:21:16,294 $2,700 RUG. 542 00:21:16,494 --> 00:21:19,063 >> I WILL SAY THIS, HE HAS -- 543 00:21:19,197 --> 00:21:20,765 HAD TO RESIGN AND THEN RUN AGAIN 544 00:21:20,965 --> 00:21:23,367 AND WON, IF I HAD BEEN IN THE 545 00:21:23,501 --> 00:21:25,703 OFFICE THAT LONG AND AN AUDIT 546 00:21:25,837 --> 00:21:28,339 WAS DONE ON ME AND THIS IS ALL 547 00:21:28,506 --> 00:21:30,041 OF THE SOUND, IT WOULD NOT BE A 548 00:21:30,174 --> 00:21:30,408 STORY. 549 00:21:30,541 --> 00:21:33,177 IT'S A STORY BECAUSE OF THE 550 00:21:33,344 --> 00:21:33,678 BAGGAGE. 551 00:21:33,878 --> 00:21:35,813 >> RAY HARTMANN, LET ME MOVE ON 552 00:21:35,947 --> 00:21:38,616 TO YOU, LAST WEEK WE TALKED 553 00:21:38,749 --> 00:21:41,385 ABOUT THE TEAM LEAVING 554 00:21:41,519 --> 00:21:41,919 ST. LOUIS. 555 00:21:42,153 --> 00:21:44,288 BUT NOW SUING BECAUSE THEY 556 00:21:44,455 --> 00:21:45,289 BELIEVE THEY HAVE CONTRACTS 557 00:21:45,423 --> 00:21:46,257 BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY PAID 558 00:21:46,390 --> 00:21:47,992 MONEY FOR A TEAM THAT'S SUPPOSED 559 00:21:48,125 --> 00:21:49,126 TO BE HERE. 560 00:21:49,260 --> 00:21:50,928 DO YOU THINK THEY'LL WIN IN 561 00:21:51,062 --> 00:21:51,662 COURT. 562 00:21:51,863 --> 00:21:54,765 >> NO, BUT I'M ROOTING FOR THEM 563 00:21:54,899 --> 00:21:55,867 PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE 564 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:56,801 INTERESTED IN MAKING A CLASS 565 00:21:56,934 --> 00:21:57,501 ACTION LAWSUIT. 566 00:21:57,635 --> 00:22:00,004 AND I WOULD BE HAPPY IN ANY PART 567 00:22:00,137 --> 00:22:02,073 OF MY MONEY CAME BACK TO ME AS A 568 00:22:02,206 --> 00:22:03,908 MATTER OF PRINCIPLE. 569 00:22:04,041 --> 00:22:06,644 FOR THE DEPART, FOOTBALL TEAM. 570 00:22:06,777 --> 00:22:07,678 I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE MUCH OF 571 00:22:07,812 --> 00:22:09,714 A CHANCE BUT I THINK THEY HAVE 572 00:22:09,847 --> 00:22:12,116 AT LEAST A -- BECAUSE I DON'T 573 00:22:12,250 --> 00:22:13,551 THINK THEY DO. 574 00:22:13,684 --> 00:22:16,520 BUT THEY HAVE AN INTERESTING 575 00:22:16,654 --> 00:22:19,590 ARGUMENT WHICH IS WE BOUGHT IT 576 00:22:19,724 --> 00:22:20,992 IN 1995 THINKING WE HAD THE 577 00:22:21,125 --> 00:22:22,660 RIGHTS TO OUR SEAT FORCE 30 578 00:22:22,793 --> 00:22:24,629 YEARS AND ONE WOULD HAVE 579 00:22:24,829 --> 00:22:26,097 EXPECTED THAT IF THEY HAVE HAD 580 00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:28,366 FOUND -- NOW, I -- . 581 00:22:28,566 --> 00:22:29,467 >> SUE THE NFL OR -- 582 00:22:29,667 --> 00:22:30,501 >> I THINK THE TEAM. 583 00:22:30,635 --> 00:22:32,503 I THINK YOU'D SAY THE TEAM WAS 584 00:22:32,637 --> 00:22:36,340 THE ONE -- THE RAMS, THE PSL AND 585 00:22:36,474 --> 00:22:37,475 I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO WIN 586 00:22:37,642 --> 00:22:41,045 BUT I LIKE THE SPIRIT OF IT. 587 00:22:41,245 --> 00:22:43,047 >> THE THING ABOUT THAT, THE 588 00:22:43,180 --> 00:22:46,250 PSLs WERE USED TO PAY OFF THE 589 00:22:46,384 --> 00:22:48,920 BOND IN ANAHEIM, CALIFORNIA AND 590 00:22:49,053 --> 00:22:53,257 NO ONE IS PAYING OFF OR BONDS, 591 00:22:53,391 --> 00:22:53,991 ARE THEY? 592 00:22:54,191 --> 00:22:55,393 >> NO, THEY'RE NOT. 593 00:22:55,559 --> 00:22:57,995 THIS CLASS ACTION -- HERE WE 594 00:22:58,129 --> 00:23:00,665 ARE, LIKE YOU SAID, OH, YEAH, 595 00:23:00,798 --> 00:23:02,767 LET'S GET $1,000, MEANWHILE, 596 00:23:02,934 --> 00:23:06,037 EVERYBODY SAID, WE GOT IT FOR 597 00:23:06,170 --> 00:23:07,071 $16 MILLION BUT PEOPLE WANT A 598 00:23:07,204 --> 00:23:08,506 COUPLE OF THOUSAND BACK. 599 00:23:08,639 --> 00:23:10,207 WE'RE ALL FOR THEM. 600 00:23:10,341 --> 00:23:12,610 FIGURE OUT WHERE THE 601 00:23:12,743 --> 00:23:14,412 $16 MILLION WENT. 602 00:23:14,545 --> 00:23:16,814 GOD BLESS THEM WHO HAVE THE PSL, 603 00:23:16,948 --> 00:23:18,983 THE RIGHT TO BUY SOMETHING? 604 00:23:19,116 --> 00:23:24,555 I DON'T GET THAT. 605 00:23:24,755 --> 00:23:25,957 >> I'M -- CONTRADICT MY OVERALL 606 00:23:26,090 --> 00:23:28,125 THEME ON THIS, WE NEED TO MOVE 607 00:23:28,259 --> 00:23:30,561 ON AND STOP THE PITY PARTY AND 608 00:23:30,695 --> 00:23:32,196 MOVE AHEAD AND REALIZE WE NEVER 609 00:23:32,330 --> 00:23:32,964 HAD A TEAM. 610 00:23:33,097 --> 00:23:36,867 IT WAS A ECHO CHAMBER. 611 00:23:37,068 --> 00:23:39,737 >> DID YOU READ HARRY POTTER? 612 00:23:39,971 --> 00:23:41,872 >> I'M GETTING THROUGH -- 613 00:23:42,139 --> 00:23:44,875 >> I PROPOSE THAT THE RAMS 614 00:23:45,009 --> 00:23:49,080 BECOME THE LORD VOLTEMOR OF THE 615 00:23:49,213 --> 00:23:50,881 CITY. 616 00:23:51,115 --> 00:23:52,583 >> ALVIN REID -- 617 00:23:52,783 --> 00:23:53,884 >> DOUBLED THE PRICE ALREADY. 618 00:23:54,085 --> 00:23:54,485 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 619 00:23:54,685 --> 00:23:55,853 >> I WANT TO ASK YOU, ALVIN, 620 00:23:55,987 --> 00:23:59,690 ABOUT A COLUMN IN THE 621 00:23:59,824 --> 00:24:02,526 POST-DISPATCH BY THE FOOD WRITER 622 00:24:02,660 --> 00:24:05,363 WHO WROTE ABOUT DOGS HE SAW AT A 623 00:24:05,496 --> 00:24:07,531 GREAT BREWERY IN THE GROVE AND 624 00:24:07,665 --> 00:24:11,202 UPSET THAT ONE OF THEM EUROPEAN 625 00:24:11,335 --> 00:24:14,772 NATURED ON THE FLOOR AND -- YOUR 626 00:24:14,939 --> 00:24:21,712 HONOR NATUREAND URINATED ON THE FLOOR. 627 00:24:21,846 --> 00:24:24,515 WE LIVE IN A WORLD WITH 628 00:24:24,648 --> 00:24:25,983 CREATURES THAT HAVE BODILY 629 00:24:26,117 --> 00:24:26,617 FUNCTIONNESS. 630 00:24:26,851 --> 00:24:27,852 >> I THINK YOU PUT YOURSELF IN 631 00:24:27,985 --> 00:24:29,787 THE PLACE OF THE PERSON, NOT 632 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,190 CRIME AND HORROR, BUT I'M AT THE 633 00:24:33,324 --> 00:24:37,495 EVENT, SITTING HERE WITH A DOG, 634 00:24:37,628 --> 00:24:39,296 ON THE FLOOR, NOBODY CLEANS IT 635 00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:40,197 UP. 636 00:24:40,331 --> 00:24:42,400 THIS GUY RATTING PEOPLE OUT OR 637 00:24:42,533 --> 00:24:44,335 JUST LET IT GO. 638 00:24:44,468 --> 00:24:47,405 I THINK DOGS REALLY SHOULDN'T BE 639 00:24:47,538 --> 00:24:48,606 INSIDE A RESTAURANT. 640 00:24:48,739 --> 00:24:50,408 OUTSIDE, IS OK. 641 00:24:50,541 --> 00:24:53,377 I LOVE DOGS, I LOVE DOGS. 642 00:24:53,511 --> 00:24:57,715 BUT IF YOU CALLED THE HEALTH 643 00:24:57,848 --> 00:25:00,117 DEPARTMENT, I'D RETURN THE CALL 644 00:25:00,251 --> 00:25:02,653 BUT I DON'T THINK I'D SEND THE 645 00:25:02,787 --> 00:25:04,088 HEALTH SWAT TEAM. 646 00:25:04,221 --> 00:25:07,792 YOU KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW, IT'S. 647 00:25:07,992 --> 00:25:09,660 >> IT'S A PART OF NATURE, YOU 648 00:25:09,794 --> 00:25:14,031 DON'T WANT IT IN THE KITCHEN. 649 00:25:14,231 --> 00:25:15,433 >> [INAUDIBLE] 650 00:25:15,633 --> 00:25:16,233 >> PEOPLE HAVE DOGS IN THEIR 651 00:25:16,367 --> 00:25:18,335 HOME, SOME PEOPLE HAVE LIKE 652 00:25:18,469 --> 00:25:21,138 THREE CATS AND ONE DOG. 653 00:25:21,305 --> 00:25:24,141 IT'S LIKE NOAH'S ARK. 654 00:25:24,341 --> 00:25:25,976 >> SO SOMEONE IS GOING TO BRING 655 00:25:26,143 --> 00:25:27,411 THEIR QUARTER HORSE NEXT. 656 00:25:27,545 --> 00:25:28,546 THIS IS GOOFY. 657 00:25:28,679 --> 00:25:30,381 IT DOESN'T BELONG IN -- 658 00:25:30,581 --> 00:25:32,283 >> YOU GO TO HOMES WHERE PEOPLE 659 00:25:32,416 --> 00:25:34,685 HAVE TOGS. 660 00:25:34,852 --> 00:25:36,420 -- DOGS. 661 00:25:36,620 --> 00:25:38,055 >> THEIR DOG COULD JUMP ON THE 662 00:25:38,189 --> 00:25:40,291 TABLE AND EAT PART THE DINNER 663 00:25:40,424 --> 00:25:41,926 AND I WOULDN'T BE OFFENDED BUT 664 00:25:42,059 --> 00:25:43,360 IF I'M HOW TO OUTPUT WITH 665 00:25:43,527 --> 00:25:46,897 FRIENDS OF MINE AND A DOG 666 00:25:47,064 --> 00:25:49,200 URINATES, I THINK WHAT ELSE IS 667 00:25:49,333 --> 00:25:50,468 GOING ON? 668 00:25:50,701 --> 00:25:52,036 >> BACK IN THE KITCHEN. 669 00:25:52,269 --> 00:25:53,904 >> I READ THAT AND THOUGHT, 670 00:25:54,038 --> 00:25:55,606 THAT'S AN INTERESTING LITTLE 671 00:25:55,773 --> 00:26:00,644 TALE. 672 00:26:00,878 --> 00:26:02,146 >> I DON'T HAVE ANY DOGS IN THE 673 00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:03,581 FIGHT. 674 00:26:03,714 --> 00:26:12,289 BUT -- URBAN CHESTNUT, BOY -- 675 00:26:12,490 --> 00:26:13,791 >> ALL RIGHT, FINE BEER, WE KNOW 676 00:26:13,924 --> 00:26:14,091 THAT. 677 00:26:14,225 --> 00:26:15,493 LET'S GET TO THE LETTERS AND SEE 678 00:26:15,626 --> 00:26:17,461 WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT 679 00:26:17,595 --> 00:26:18,929 LAST WEEK'S PROGRAM. 680 00:26:19,063 --> 00:26:20,931 WHENEVER PEOPLE START TO HOLD 681 00:26:21,065 --> 00:26:23,567 SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE, YOU CAN BET 682 00:26:23,767 --> 00:26:26,570 ON ONE THING -- NO ONE WILL BE 683 00:26:26,704 --> 00:26:29,406 HELD ACCOUNTABLE. 684 00:26:29,540 --> 00:26:32,276 IT'S FROM KENNETH. 685 00:26:32,443 --> 00:26:34,445 AND IN MY OPINION IT, TAKES A 686 00:26:34,578 --> 00:26:37,681 PILLAGE, A BALLPARK PILLAGE TO 687 00:26:37,815 --> 00:26:38,916 RAZE A CITY. 688 00:26:39,049 --> 00:26:40,384 THANK YOU. 689 00:26:40,518 --> 00:26:42,553 RON OF ST. LOUIS WROTE -- PEOPLE 690 00:26:42,686 --> 00:26:44,288 ARE FIGURING OUT THAT THE NFL IS 691 00:26:44,455 --> 00:26:45,189 A HUGE MOOCH. 692 00:26:45,322 --> 00:26:48,759 YOU CAN WRITE US CARE OF 3655 693 00:26:48,893 --> 00:26:49,793 OLIVE STREET, ST. LOUIS, 694 00:26:49,927 --> 00:26:53,497 MISSOURI 63108. 695 00:26:53,831 --> 00:26:56,033 DON'T FORGET THE LETTERS AT 696 00:26:56,167 --> 00:26:57,968 KETC.ORG AND THOSE TWEETS. 697 00:26:58,102 --> 00:27:00,137 DON'T GO AWAY, WE'VE GOVERNMENT 698 00:27:00,471 --> 00:27:00,938 "DONNYBROOK, YOUR TURN." 699 00:27:01,071 --> 00:27:02,740 BILL AND I WILL BE TAKING YOUR 700 00:27:02,873 --> 00:27:03,641 PHONE CALLS. 701 00:27:03,774 --> 00:27:06,377 SEE YOU NEXT WEEK AT THIS TIME 702 00:27:06,510 --> 00:27:07,511 THANKS FOR JOINING US, DON'T GO 703 00:27:07,645 --> 00:27:07,811 AWAY. 704 00:27:13,551 --> 00:27:14,585 >> "DONNYBROOK" IS MADE POSSIBLE 705 00:27:14,718 --> 00:27:15,319 THROUGH THE GENEROUS SUPPORT OF 706 00:27:15,452 --> 00:27:16,687 THE MEMBERS OF KETC.