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>> Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE

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POSSIBLE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE 

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NINE NETWORK. 

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>>> WELL, HERE WE ARE BETTER 

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TOGETHER, SO TO SPEAK, AND WE'LL

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BE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN JUST A 

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MOMENT, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH 

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FOR JOINING US FOR ANOTHER 

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EDITION OF DONNYBROOK BROUGHT TO

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YOU BY OUR FRIENDS AT THE 

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GATESWORTH WHO MAKE THIS PROGRAM

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POSSIBLE EVERY WEEK AND WE SURE 

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APPRECIATE THAT.

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LET'S MEET OUR PANELISTS FOR 

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THIS EDITION STARTING WITH THE 

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MEDIA VETERAN HERSELF FROM KTRS,

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WENDY WIESE.

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FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

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AND STLTODAY.COM, BILL 

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McCLELLAN.

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FROM THE RIVERFRONT TIMES, 

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MR. RAY HARTMANN.

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AND FROM STLMAG.COM AND THE 

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ST. LOUIS AMERICAN NEWSPAPER, 

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ALVIN REID, AND SPEAKING OF 

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BETTER TOGETHER, RAY, AND WE 

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WERE, THE ORGANIZATION WHICH IS 

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SEEKING TO COMBINE THE CITY AND 

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THE COUNTY THROUGH A BALLOT 

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MEASURE IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS 

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OF THE STATE IN NOVEMBER 2020, 

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HAS ANNOUNCED THAT BY 

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CONSOLIDATING THE CITY AND THE 

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COUNTY INTO ONE CITY, THERE WILL

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BE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN 

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SAVINGS.

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SOUND OF KIND OF LIKE CARL 

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SAGAN, BILLION AND BILLIONS.

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THE IDEA IS $55 MILLION IN 

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SAVINGS IN THE FIRST YOUR AND 

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AFTER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS,

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THERE WILL BE A BILLION DOLLARS.

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ARE YOU BUYING IT?

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>> I THINK LET'S GO FOR 

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A TRILLION IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO

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IT.

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IT'S LIKE WHEN I WROTE THE FIRST

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COLUMN ABOUT THIS WHERE THEY 

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SAID WE WERE GOING TO BE A CITY 

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THE SIZE OF DALLAS AND SAN JOSE.

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>> AND NOW IT'S NEW YORK. 

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>> AND IF THEY HAVE A CASE TO 

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MAKE, SELL ON IT THE MERITS, ON 

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REAL FACTS.

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THE STORY, UNLESS IT JUST GOT 

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CUT FOR SPACE, THEY LEFT OUT THE

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SMALL DETAIL OF WHERE THIS 

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BILLION DOLLARS IS COMING FROM.

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>> THE CONSOLIDATION.

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I MEAN CONSOLIDATION -- 

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>> LOOK, CONSOLIDATION, FOR THE 

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CITY TO RE-ENTER THE COUNTY LIKE

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A LOT OF US HAVE THOUGHT FOR 

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YEARS AND DO AWAY WITH ITS DUAL 

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STATUS AS A CITY AND COUNTY 

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WOULD SAVE SOME MONEY.

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THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

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BEYOND THAT, THERE'S NO EVIDENCE

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AND IN FACT THE ACADEMIC 

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LITERATURE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE 

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OF IT, THAT SIMPLY CONSOLIDATING

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GOVERNMENTS SAVES MONEY.

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>> WELL, YOU KNOW, IN 

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LOUISVILLE, ACCORDING TO 

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DR. TERRY JONES OF THE 

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UNIVERSITY OF MISSOURI 

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ST. LOUIS, THE COST OF 

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GOVERNMENT PER PERSON IS 

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ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN IT IS HERE 

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AND WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT 

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THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT ONLY ARE 

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THEY GOING TO SAVE BILLIONS OF 

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DOLLARS THROUGH ECONOMIES ARE 

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SCALE OR SOMETHING, BUT THEY'RE 

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GOING TO DO IT BY ELIMINATING 

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THE EARNINGS TAX, WHAT IS 

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180 MILLION DAZ YEAR IN THE CITY

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AND THEY PROMISED NO EMPLOYEES 

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OF THE CITY AND COUNTY WILL LOSE

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THEIR JOB. 

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>> AND LOUISVILLE DIDN'T HAVE, 

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OR INDIANAPOLIS, THEY DIDN'T 

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HAVE 88 MUNICIPALITIES, DID 

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THEY?

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>> NO, NOT THAT MANY. 

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>> SO HOW CAN WE POSSIBLY SAY 

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THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO 

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LOSE THEIR JOBS, THAT WE'RE 

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GIVING ASSURANCES OF JOB 

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RETENTION?

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>> WE'RE GOING TO SAVE A BILLION

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DOLLARS. 

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>> I UNDERSTAND WE'RE GOING TO 

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SAVE A BILLION DOLLARS, AND 

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THESE QUESTIONS KEEP COMING UP 

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AND THEY'RE JUST NOT BEING 

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ANSWERED TO ANYONE'S 

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SATISFACTION. 

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>> WELL, MAYBE THEY'RE CUT THE 

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MUNICIPALITIES' EMPLOYEES.

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IF THE CITY EMPLOYEES DON'T GET 

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CUT AND THEIR PENSIONS ARE FINE 

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AND THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES DON'T 

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GET CUT AND THEIR PENSIONS ARE 

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FINE, IF THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT 

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SAVING MONEY, THEY GOT TO CUT 

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SOMEBODY. 

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>> SOMETHING'S MISSING FROM THE 

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DISCUSSION AND I REALLY WOULD 

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LIKE TO KNOW WHAT MY SENATORS 

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THINK OF THIS.

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I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT ANN 

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WAGNER, WHO REPRESENTS, YOU 

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KNOW, MY DISTRICT IN KIRKWOOD, 

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THINKS ABOUT THIS.

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SCOTT TIPTON, TALKING ABOUT 

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RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR.

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I MEAN -- 

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>> SENATOR BLUNT. 

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>> WHY AREN'T THESE QUESTIONS 

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BEING ASKED OF OUR ELECTED 

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OFFICIALS, AND MAYBE THEY HAVE, 

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BUT I NEED TO READ THAT.

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BECAUSE WE'RE TO THE POINT WHERE

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THIS CRAZINESS, WE'RE GOING TO 

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SAVE -- I'LL DO MY BEST ENGLISH 

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ACCENT A BILLION DOLLARS, YOU 

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KNOW, BUT WHERE IS THIS COMING 

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FROM, WITH NO BUDGET.

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ADMITTED IN THAT STORY, WE DON'T

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HAVE A BUDGET.

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THE WAY YOU'RE DIVOG SAVE A 

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BILLION DOLLARS IS LEFT UP TO 

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THE LEADERS.

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HOW RIDICULOUS IS THAT?

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>> AND YOU'RE RIGHT, ALVIN, 

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BECAUSE THIS AFTERNOON, SENATOR 

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BLUNT WAS QUESTIONED ABOUT HOW 

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THE MILITARY, HOW THE EMERGENCY 

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DECLARATION ON THE BORDER AND 

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HOW THE MILITARY BUDGET IS GOING

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TO BE IMPACTED AND HOW THE 

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GEOSPATIAL AGENCY IS GOING TO --

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NABA IS GOING TO BE AFFECTED AND

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HE ALSO ANSWERED QUESTIONS ABOUT

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THE NCAA AND THE MIZZOU 

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SUSPENSION, BUT YOU COULDN'T 

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EASE IN A QUESTION ABOUT BETTER 

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TOGETHER TO ONE OF OUR SENATORS?

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THAT'S KIND OF -- I WOULD LIKE 

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TO KNOW HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT.

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>> HEY, OKAY.

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LET'S MOVE ON TO ANOTHER TOPIC 

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AND IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS, 

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THERE'S A PRETTY -- HOW WOULD 

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YOU DESCRIBE IT?

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VOLATILE, CONTROVERSIAL?

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BOARD OF ALDERMANIC PRESIDENT, 

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RAY -- 

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>> HEATED. 

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>> HEATED, THAT'S THE WORD WE'RE

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LOOKING FOR.

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SEE, YOU'RE A WORDSMITH, I'M 

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NOT.

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WE HAVE IN ONE CASE THE 

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PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF 

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ALDERMEN, THE INCUMBENT, ALVIN 

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REID, HIS NAME IS LEW REED AND 

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HE HAS COMPLAINED THAT JAMILAH 

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NASHEED, A STATE SENATOR HAS 

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ALSO ON SOME LEGAL DOCUMENTS 

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GONE BY THE NAME JENICE WILLIAMS

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WHICH I BELIEVE WAS HER NAME AT 

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ONE POINT UNTIL SHE CHANGED BIT 

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12 YEARS AGO.

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HE ALSO CALLED HER A DOUBLE 

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AGENT AT ONE POINT AND NOW THE 

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COUNCIL FOR AMERICAN ISLAMIC 

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RELATIONS HAS SAID THAT'S AN 

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ANTI-ISLAMIC TROPE AND AN INSULT

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AND HE NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE TO THE

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AREA'S MUSLIM COMMUNITY.

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I DON'T KNOW IF I'D GO THAT FAR.

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I THINK IT WAS A GAME OF LEGAL 

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GOTCHA THAT REED WAS GOING ON, 

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WHAT DO YOU THINK?

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>> I AGREE.

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HE NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE.

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HE DID IT PURPOSELY.

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HE WAS TALKING TO NOT BLACK 

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VOTERS, HE WAS TALKING IN KIND 

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OF CODE TO WHITE VOTERS AND I 

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TELL THE WORLD OUT THERE, WHAT 

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IF A WHITE MAN HAD DONE IT?

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WHAT IF A WHITE GENTLEMAN WAS 

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RUNNING IF PRESIDENT OF THE 

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BOARD OF ALDERMAN, THERE WOULD 

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BE A FIRESTORM AND LEWIS REED 

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NEEDS THE NAME RESPONSE.

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THIS IS NOT ABOUT A NAME HERE.

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HE'S PLAYING A RACE CARD IN A 

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WAY AND I THINK IT'S A SMACK OF 

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DESPERATION. 

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>> I DIDN'T THINK SO ORIGINALLY 

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AND THEN I READ UMAR'S PIECE IN 

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THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN AND 

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SOMETIMES READING SOMETHING CAN 

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CHANGE YOUR MIND AND I THOUGHT 

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THAT LEE HAD A REALLY GOOD POINT

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ABOUT ISLAMIC NAMES AND HE 

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THOUGHT THIS WAS A -- LIKE YOU 

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DO, HE THOUGHT THIS WAS MEANT AS

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AN INSULT.

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>> HOW MUCH DOES THE ENDORSEMENT

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OF THE BLACK TRADE UNIONS MEAN?

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BECAUSE JAMILAH NOW HAS THAT.

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I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE

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A SIGNIFICANT ENDORSEMENT, SO --

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>> AND THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN 

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ALSO, BUT THE THING WITH 

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ENDORSEMENTS, I DON'T KNOW 

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ANYMORE.

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>> YEAH. 

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>> LEWIS REED HAS WON CITYWIDE 

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AND NONE OF THE OTHERS HAVE. 

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>> THINK ABOUT UMAR LEE, THOUGH,

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HE SAID SOME UGLY THINGS IN THE 

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PAST. 

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>> BUT THE PIECE IN THE 

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NORTHWESTERN  AMERICAN WAS WELL 

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REASONED. 

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>> BUT I'M SAYING HIS REACTION 

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TO IT IS VIABLE AND 

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UNDERSTANDABLE AND FOR IT TO BE 

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DISMISSED BY LEWIS REED'S CAMP 

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AND ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS THEY 

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HAD WAS LEWIS REED HAS, YOU 

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KNOW, PEOPLE OF THE ISLAMIC 

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FAITH WORKING FOR HIM.

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WELL, THAT JUST SOUNDS LIKE A 

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WHITE CANDIDATE, WELL, I GOT 

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BLACK PEOPLE WORKING FOR ME. 

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>> THE ISSUE IS LESS -- I'M 

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NOT -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT I THINK

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ABOUT WHETHER HE WAS BEING AN 

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ISLAMOPHOBE OR NOT, WHETHER OR 

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NOT HE WAS, IT WAS CHEAP SHOT.

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YOU TALK ABOUT BETTER TOGETHER, 

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IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO HEAR 

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CERTAINLY -- AND MAYBE THEY'VE 

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ALL MADE THEIR POSITION ON 

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BETTER TOGETHER AND I HAVEN'T 

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PAID ATTENTION, BUT THERE'S SO 

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MANY ISSUES, SO MANY ISSUES, 

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WHETHER IT'S CRIME, WHETHER IT'S

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THE CITY'S ECONOMICS, WHETHER 

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IT'S OBVIOUSLY BETTER TOGETHER, 

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THERE ARE SO MANY SUBSTANTIVE 

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ISSUES AND I THINK LEWIS REED 

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DOES THE PUBLIC A DISSERVICE 

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BY -- AND I'M NOT SAYING HE'S 

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THE ONLY ONE DOING IT, BUT 

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CLEARLY GETTING INTO THIS KIND 

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OF NAME STUFF IS REALLY NOT 

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HELPFUL. 

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>> BUT YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH 

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ALVIN'S POINT THAT IF THIS WERE 

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A WHITE CANDIDATE, YOU WOULD BE 

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SCREAMING ISLAMOPHOBE. 

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>> I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT 

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OBVIOUS, GUYS.

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I THINK HE WAS CHALLENGING HER 

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BECAUSE THE LAW DOES STATE THAT 

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YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN NAME 

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ON YOUR LEGAL DOCUMENT.

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HER NAME, SHE HAPPENS TO HAVE A 

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NAME THAT IS KIND OF ANGLO-SAXON

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AND THEN ONE THAT IS, I GUESS, 

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MUSLIM, AND/OR SOMETHING -- 

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>> MY POINT IS SO WITH LOU 

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ALCINDOR. 

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>> BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IF A 

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PERSON IS MUSLIM, THEN IF THE 

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QUESTION ABOUT THE NAME ON A 

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LEGAL DOCUMENT, YOU CAN'T 

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QUESTION IT.

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I THINK THAT'S TRUE. 

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>> BECAUSE I WOULD SAY THAT 

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BECAUSE YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHY SHE

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CHANGED HER NAME.

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IF I'M RUNNING FOR OFFICE AS 

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ALVIN REID AND THEN I OWN 

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PROPERTY AS THE SEBASTIAN CABOT 

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OR WHATEVER, THEY'RE LIKE WHAT 

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IS THAT ABOUT, BUT IF A WOMAN 

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CHANGES HER NAME OR THE MAN 

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CHANGES HIS NAME BECAUSE OF THE 

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FAITH THEY HAVE, THAT SHOULDN'T 

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BE QUESTIONED. 

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>> BUT HE WASN'T QUESTIONING HER

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CHANGING HER NAME.

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HE WAS QUESTIONING ABOUT HOW 

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HER -- AND I DIDN'T AGREE IT 

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WITH, BUT HE WAS QUESTIONING HOW

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TWO NAMES WERE APPEARING ON 

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DOCUMENTS AND YET ONE NAME WAS 

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APPEARING ON THE BALLOT, WHICH 

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APPARENTLY ACCORDING TO SOME 

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LAWYERS COULD BE AGAINST THE 

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LAW. 

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>> MOST ISLAMIC PEOPLE WHO DON'T

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LEGALLY CHANGE THEIR NAME, THEIR

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W-2 FORM HAS THEIR FORMER NAME 

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ON IT.

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THEY PAY TAXES UNDER THE NAME 

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OF -- 

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>> AKA. 

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>> THE NEXT TIME I SEE WORLD BE 

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FREE, I'M GOING TO ASK HIM. 

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>> HE DID CHANGE HIS NAME. 

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>> BUT I DO THINK IT WAS WRONG 

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OF HIM REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE 

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MOTIVE WAS. 

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>> BUT THE RACE CARD OR RELIGION

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CARD, I DON'T PULL SO IT QUICKLY

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UNLESS IT'S MORE OBVIOUS. 

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>> THAT WAS PRETTY OBVIOUS.

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AND I'M NOT SAYING HE'S RACIST 

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OR ISLAMOPHOBIC, HE PLAYED THAT 

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CARD. 

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>> I THINK ALVIN MAYBE RIGHT 

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ABOUT IT.

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I WOULD SAY THE ARTICLE DID HAVE

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ONE FACTUAL REFERENCE BECAUSE IT

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WAS TALKING ABOUT MUHAMMAD ALI 

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AND IT CLAIMED THAT HE HAD DONE 

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WHAT'S MY NAME WITH FLOYD 

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PATTERSON SON WHEN IN FACT IT 

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WAS ERNIE TERRELL. 

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>> YOU'RE A SHARP COOKIE.

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BILL McCLELLAN, ANOTHER SHARP 

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COOKIE, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT 

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BIBLE STUDY IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

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DO YOU THINK LIKE SOME 

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LEGISLATORS IN JEFFERSON CITY 

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THAT MAYBE KIRKWOOD HIGH AND 

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WEBSTER GROVES HIGH, FOR THAT 

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MATTER, I DON'T KNOW, OAKVILLE 

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HIGH, SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE 

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BIBLE STUDY COURSES AS AN 

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ELECTIVE?

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NOT REQUIRED, BUT AS AN 

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ELECTIVE. 

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>> YEAH, SURE, I DO.

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AS A MATTER OF FACT, IF MY KIDS 

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WERE IN LES AND THAT WAS OFFERED

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TO THEM -- IN HIGH SCHOOL AND 

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THAT WAS OFFERED TO THEM, I'D 

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SAY THAT'S PROBABLY A SMART 

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THING TO TAKE AND READ THE BIBLE

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AS AN ELECTIVE COURSE, I DON'T 

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SEE IT AS A -- NECESSARILY A 

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RELIGIOUS THING, BUT IT'S PART 

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OF THE CULTURE AND, YOU KNOW, 

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DANIEL IN THE LION'S DEN AND -- 

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>> JOSHUA AND THE BATTLE OF 

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JERRICO. 

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>> AND DAVID AND GOLIATH.

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I THINK THAT STUFF IS FINE.

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I WOULD HAVE NO OBJECTION. 

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>> YOU MENTIONED KIRKWOOD.

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WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, WE 

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HAD A BIBLE AS LITERATURE COURSE

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AND WE DID SONG OF SOLOMON AND 

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SONG OF PSALMS AND HOW IT WAS 

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WRITTEN.

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YOU'RE PHRASING IT LIKE BIBLE 

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STUDY.

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THAT'S DIFFERENT.

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I THINK IT HAS TO BE 

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HISTORICALLY BASED OR THE 

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ENGLISH OF THE BIBLE OR MAYBE, 

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YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, IT'S NOT 

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ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JESUS IS BETTER

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THAN THIS OR ALL THAT.

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THAT'S NOT THE GOAL OF THESE 

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CLASSES, BUT IF I DID IT IN 

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1976, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT 

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THE WORLD HAS CHANGED SO MUCH 

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THAT YOU CAN'T DO IT IN 2019. 

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>> I THINK IT'S A VERY BAD IDEA 

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REGARDLESS WHETHER IT WAS DONE 

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IN '76 OR NOT.

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IT'S GREAT FOR A RELIGIOUS-BASED

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SCHOOL, A PRIVATE SCHOOL.

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IF YOU WERE TEACHING COMPARATIVE

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RELIGIONS AS SORT OF A GENERIC 

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COURSE, THAT'S ONE THING, BUT TO

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STUDY THE BIBLE OR STUDY THE 

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KORAN AND TO MAKE IT AN ELECTIVE

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I THINK IS CROSSING THE LINE OF 

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THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND 

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STATE. 

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>> BUT IF YOU HAVE THE KORAN AND

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THE TORAH AND, YOU KNOW, THE -- 

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HOW CAN THAT BE -- 

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>> THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE 

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IFS, IF YOU DID.

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THE POINT IS IF IT WERE JUST -- 

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>> YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE NOT 

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GOING TO. 

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>> RIGHT.

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IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE BECAUSE 

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IF, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONLY 

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ELECTIVE AT PARKWAY WAS TO STUDY

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THE KORAN AS AN ELECTIVE COURSE,

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A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD HAVE A 

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PROBLEM WITH THAT.

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SO IT SOUNDS GREAT IF YOU SAY, 

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WELL, WE WANT TO TEACH 

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EVERYTHING AND I DO THINK 

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STUDYING COMPARATIVE RELIGIONS 

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IS A GOOD THING, BUT TO ACTUALLY

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TEACH THE BIBLE OR HAVE IT AS AN

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ELECTIVE, I DON'T -- I HAVE A 

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PROBLEM. 

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>> I THINK THE BIBLE AS 

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LITERATURE AND AS STORIES IS 

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TERRIFIC, AND IF SOMEBODY WANTED

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TO HAVE THAT COURSE ELECTIVE IN 

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THE KORAN OR SOMETHING, THAT'S 

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FINE WITH ME TOO. 

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>> AGAIN, IT'S THE IF AND 

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IT'S -- 

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>> I DON'T THINK YOU NECESSARILY

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DO.

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I WOULDN'T SAY YOU CAN'T TEACH 

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THE BIBLE UNLESS YOU TEACH THE 

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KORAN AND THE TORAH OR 

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SOMETHING. 

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>> AND YOU HAVE TO SAY 

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CONVERSELY THAT COULD YOU CAN'T 

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TEACH THE KORAN UNLESS YOU'RE --

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THAT YOU CAN'T TEACH THE KORAN 

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UNLESS YOU'RE TEACHING THE 

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BIBLE, CORRECT?

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>> THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 

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>> IF I'M ON THE SCHOOL BOARD 

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AND SOMEBODY COMES UP TO ME AND 

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SAYS AS AN ELECTIVE, I'D LIKE TO

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TEAM THE BIBLE, I'D SAY THAT'S 

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INTERESTING, I THINK SOCCER  SO,

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BUT IF SOMEBODY CAME UP TO ME 

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AND SAID I'D LIKE TO TEACH THE 

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TORAH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

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>> ONE OF MY FAVORITE TEACHERS 

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OF ALL TIME, WE TACKLED 

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RELIGIOUS SUBJECTS, BUT ONE OF 

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THE THINGS WE DID IN THAT CLASS,

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WE HAD TO READ THE COMMUNIST 

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MANIFESTO BEGINNING TO END.

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PEOPLE WERE UPSET, HOW CAN YOU 

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DO THAT?

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WE WERE NOT TURNING INTO 

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COMMUNISTS, IT WAS HISTORIC. 

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>> WE UNDERSTAND A LOT OF YOUR 

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VIEWS NOW, ALVIN. 

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>> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT 

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RELIGIONS, THE SEPARATION OF 

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CHURCH AND STATE, WHICH IS A 

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REAL THING, PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE 

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FUNDED BY THE GOVERNMENT, THE 

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BEST WAY TO PROTECT FREEDOM OF 

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RELIGION, KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF

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IT.

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I'M NOT ANTI-BIBLE WHEN I SAY 

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THAT, BUT ARE YOU GOING TO START

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STUDYING THE BIBLE THINKING OSH 

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PREACHING OR TEACHING THAT THE 

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WORLD IS 6,000 YEARS OLD AND 

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JUXTAPOSE THAT AGAINST SCIENCE?

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>> NO, WE'RE NOT TALKING -- 

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>> THAT'S THE PROBLEM -- 

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[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ]

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>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN 

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ELECTIVE COURSE -- 

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>> WHERE DOES THAT ELECTIVE 

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COURSE GO IS MY POINT. 

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>> THEY HAVE TO STRUCTURE A 

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CLASS THAT EXPLAINS WHAT IT IS.

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THIS IS NOT LIKE YOU CAN JUST 

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COME HERE AND HAVE CHURCH 

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SESSION IN THE CLASSROOM.

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EVEN THE PASTOR WHO WANTS TO -- 

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AND IT PROBABLY WON'T PASS 

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BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE 

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THAT DON'T WANT TO DO IT, A LOT 

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OF BLOWBACK, BUT HE SAID WHAT 

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WE'RE DOING IS GIVING THE SCHOOL

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BOARD A CHANCE TO STRUCTURE A 

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CLASS.

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THAT HAS TO NOW BE PRESENTED TO 

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THE STATE, HAS TO PASS MUSTER, 

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CHURCH, STATE, ALL THAT.

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BUT IF YOU SAY WE WANT TO TEACH 

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A CLASS THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE 

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THINGS HAPPENED IN THE BIBLE, 

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WHERE TOWNS ARE IN ISRAEL AND 

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HOW IT'S 70 MILES FROM NAZARETH 

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TO JERUSALEM, I DON'T HAVE A 

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PROBLEM WITH THAT. 

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>> OKAY, LET'S -- 

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>> I'M NOT ANTI-BIBLE, BUT IT'S 

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A SLIPPERY SLOPE. 

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>> LET'S MOVE ON.

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BILL McCLELLAN, WE'LL GO TO YOU 

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ON ANOTHER TOPIC AND THAT IS 

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KATE QUINN HAD A PIECE LAST WEEK

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ON CHANNEL 5 WHERE SHE SHOWED 

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THERE WERE ABOUT ONE CARJACKING 

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EVERY DAY, THERE IS A CARJACKING

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EVERY DAY IN THE GREATER 

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ST. LOUIS AREA.

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THAT WAS TRUE FOR LAST YEAR AND 

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THIS YEAR AND THEY'RE ALL OVER.

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ON HODIAMONT, BALANCE WIN, 

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BUTLER ROAD SCHNUCKS, OUT IN 

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FENTON AND IT SEEMS AS THOUGH 

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THERE'S NOTHING A MOTORIST CAN 

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DO TO PROTECT HIM OR HERSELF?

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DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS?

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>> NO, A MOTORIS CAN'T DO 

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ANYTHING EXCEPT GIVE UP YOUR CAR

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IF A PERSON HAS A GUN ON YOU.

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IF WE WANT TO SLOW THERE DOWN, 

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I'M AFRAID WE HAVE TO HAVE 

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MANDATORY SENTENCING AND I'M 

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GENERALLY AGAINST THAT, BUT IF 

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ALL THESE KIDS THAT ARE DOING 

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CAR JACKINGS, IF THEY KNEW THAT 

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WHEN THEY'RE ARRESTED, THEY GET 

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A FLAT SENTENCE AND DO LIKE TEN 

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YEARS OR SOMETHING, THAT'S THE 

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ONLY THING THAT I CAN IMAGINE 

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COULD HELP ON THIS.

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THE CITIZEN CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

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YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP YOUR CAR. 

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>> I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT 

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HAPPENED TO MY FELLOW FOUNDER 

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TONIGHT, BUT I ACTUALLY AGREE 

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THERE SHOULD BE ENHANCED 

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SENTENCING MUCH LIKE THERE IS 

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WITH HATE CRIMES OR OTHERS AND 

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WE OUGHT TO HAVE -- DEFINITELY 

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THE COURTS HAVE LESS AND LESS 

17:00.311 --> 17:01.613
TOLERANCE FOR LENIENCY WHEN IT 

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COMES TO CARJACKING BECAUSE IT'S

17:04.349 --> 17:06.017
BECOMING ONE OF THE REALLY 

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SERIOUS CRIMES THAT AFFECTS 

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EVERYBODY ACROSS ALL LINES.

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IT'S NOT A CITY PROBLEM OR A 

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COUNTY PROBLEM.

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IT'S A PROBLEM.

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WHEN YOU MENTION MANDATORY 

17:16.895 --> 17:18.029
MINIMUMS, THAT'S THE WHOLE BASIS

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FOR ALL THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE 

17:19.631 --> 17:21.499
REFORM THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT 

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NOW.

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MANDATORY MINIMUMS THAT TIGHT 

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HANDS OF JUDGES. 

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>> HOW DO YOU STOP THIS 

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OTHERWISE, RAY?

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>> I THINK YOU CAN ENHANCE THE 

17:32.010 --> 17:33.711
PENALTIES AND ENFORCE THEM 

17:33.845 --> 17:34.946
BETTER, BUT MANDATORY 

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MINIMUMS -- 

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>> WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

17:37.081 --> 17:38.550
ENHANCED AND MANDATORY?

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>> BIG DIFFERENCE BECAUSE ONE --

17:41.352 --> 17:41.586
>> OKAY. 

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>> -- ENHANCES A SENTENCING, 

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EITHER THE GUIDELINES OR THE 

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PENALTIES, AND THE OTHER TIES 

17:46.124 --> 17:47.859
THE HANDS OF JUDGES.

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MANDATORY MINIMUMS ARE LIKE THE 

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THREE STRIKES AND YOU'RE OUT ARE

17:50.662 --> 17:52.063
A PROVEN FAILURE.

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THERE'S A BASIS OF ALL THE 

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CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM.

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THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

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I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH GIL 

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WITH STRENGTHENING THE PENALTIES

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AND MAKING IT A MORE SERIOUS 

18:05.977 --> 18:06.177
CRIME. 

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>> IT'S LIKE A NEWSLETTER WHERE 

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THEY SAY THIS IS ALL YOU HAVE TO

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DO.

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FRIENDS OF OURS WAS DRIVING HOME

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IN A LUXURY CAR AND DROVE 

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INTO -- AND HE WAS BEING 

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FOLLOWED.

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ONCE HE WAS PEGGED ON THE 

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HIGHWAY, HE IS BEING FOLLOWED.

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THEY FOLLOWED HIM TO HIS 

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DRIVEWAY IN TOWN AND COUNTRY.

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WHEN HE GOT OUT, HE HAD A GUN 

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POINTED IN HIS FACE.

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IF THEY'RE SMART ENOUGH TO 

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FOLLOW YOU HOME AND TAKE THE 

18:29.000 --> 18:30.768
CHANCE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE A 

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WEAPON IN YOUR GLOVE BOX, THEN 

18:32.870 --> 18:34.205
THEY'RE SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE 

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OUT MANDATORY SENTENCING. 

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>> ABOUT THE MANDATORY 

18:37.075 --> 18:37.775
SENTENCING, I WOULD SAY THIS.

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I THINK IT WAS A WOMAN WHO GOT 

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CARJACKED IN BALLWIN IN A 

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RESTAURANT THERE, MYSTERIOUS 

18:48.953 --> 18:50.755
HIS, THAT ASSAILANT ENDS UP WITH

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MORE TIME THAN THE GUY WHO GOT 

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CARJACKED IN NORTH ST. LOUIS.

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THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE FEARFUL 

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OF.

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LOOK, IT'S THE SAME CRIME, THEY 

18:57.862 --> 18:59.497
DESERVE THE SAME SENTENCE AND 

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THAT SENTENCE SHOULD BE STIFF. 

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>> HERE'S THE DEAL THOUGH, GUYS.

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BILL, I'M A LITTLE UNCONVINCED 

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WITH YOUR THEORY.

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WHY?

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BECAUSE WE HAVE PRETTY STIFF 

19:10.074 --> 19:11.309
SENTENCES ON CRIMES LIKE 

19:11.442 --> 19:12.543
HOMICIDE, AND IT DOESN'T LOOK 

19:12.677 --> 19:14.112
LIKE WE'RE PUTTING BIG DENTS IN 

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THE HOMICIDE NUMBERS. 

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>> IF YOU'RE CRAZY ENOUGH TO 

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KILL SOMEBODY -- I THINK PEOPLE 

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THAT CAR JACK PEOPLE, WHILE 

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PEOPLE DO GET KILLED DURING THIS

19:22.287 --> 19:23.521
CRIME, I THINK MOST PEOPLE WHO 

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DO IT, THEIR INTENT IS NOT TO 

19:26.758 --> 19:28.293
MURDER SOMEONE, BUT IT IS STILL 

19:28.426 --> 19:30.862
A HORRIFIC SITUATION AND ONE 

19:30.995 --> 19:32.297
SHOULD FACE A VERY TOUGH 

19:32.430 --> 19:32.664
PENALTY. 

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>> BUT THERE'S AN INTENT, RIGHT?

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>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE 

19:36.034 --> 19:37.635
PENALTIES ARE AND WE HAVEN'T 

19:37.769 --> 19:39.103
STUDIED IT CURRENTLY FOR 

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CARJACKING.

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I AGREE WITH BILL THAT WE NEED 

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TO INCREASE THE PENALTIES, BUT 

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THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 

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INCREASING THE PENALTIES AND 

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MANDATORY MINIMUMS THAT DO NOT 

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WORK AND TIGHT HANDS OF JUDGES. 

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>> WAIT, WAIT.

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YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INCREASING 

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THE PENALTIES.

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I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CERTAINTY 

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OF PENALTY IS WHAT CAN STOP THE 

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CRIME. 

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>> THAT'S THE WHOLE THEORY ABOUT

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THREE STRIKES AND YOU'RE OUT, 

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THE WHOLE THING ABOUT 

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MANDATORY -- MANDATORY MINIMUMS 

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ARE THE SAME THING AND THEY 

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WON'T WORK.

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THEY TIE THE HANDS OF JUDGES AND

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THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE -- 

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>> BUT THREE STRIKES AND YOU'RE 

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OUT IS NOT A MANDATORY MILLION 

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MIM, RIGHT?

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>> IT'S A COUSIN.

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>> I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE CITY

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OF ST. LOUIS WHERE CAROL HOWARD 

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IS BEING CHANGED FOR HER 

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ALDERMANIC SEAT AND BEING 

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CHALLENGED BY TONY PECINOVSKY, A

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MEMBER OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY, 

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SUCH AS IT IS.

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I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE MEETINGS 

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ARE OR HOW MANY DUES PAYING 

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MEETINGS THERE ARE IN MISSOURI 

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OR KANSAS.

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NONTHE LESS, HE IS A COMMUNIS 

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AND RUNNING AS A DEMOCRAT.

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A LOT OF THE ESTABLISHMENT 

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DEMOCRATS HAVE SAID GET THE HECK

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OFF THIS TICKET BECAUSE YOU'RE 

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COMMUNIS AND NOT DISTRICT.

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HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?

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>> I THINK CAROL HOWARD IS 

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TRYING TO DEFLECT BY POINTING AT

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HER AND SAYING, BUT YOU'RE A 

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REPUBLICAN.

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AND HIS RATIONALE, YOU KNOW, SHE

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REFUSED.

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SHE SAID, LOOK, WHEN IT CAME TO 

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MINIMUM WAGE, NOTIFY PROBLEM 

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WITH THE MINIMUM WAGE LAW 

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BECAUSE THAT WAS WHERE HE WAS 

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CALLING HER OUT.

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HE SAID I JUST DON'T THINK IT 

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SHOULD BE IN THIS CITY, I THINK 

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IT SHOULD BE STATEWIDE, AND THEN

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IT WAS ON THE AIRPORT 

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PRIVATIZATION AND A PUBLIC VOTE.

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SHE INTRODUCED THAT IN 

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COMMITTEE.

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IT DIDN'T MAKE IT OUT OF 

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COMMITTEE, SO, YOU KNOW, TWO 

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GOTCHAS AND SHE REFUTED THEM 

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BOTH, YOU KNOW, SEAMLESSLY.

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BUT WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING IS

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HE HAS THESE FRONT PORCH 

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MEETINGS AND SHE WAS CALLING HIM

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OUT ON THAT AND SAYING ARE YOU 

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LETTING VOTERS KNOW THAT YOU ARE

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A COMMUNIST?

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AND HE SAID -- HE SAID THE ONLY 

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THING THAT VOTERS CARE ABOUT IS 

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THAT I'M A DEMOCRAT AND I'M 

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RUNNING -- I MEAN, SO HE'S KIND 

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OF LIKE TRYING TO NAIL JELLO TO 

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A WALL.

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HE'S NOT GIVING ANYBODY ANY 

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ANSWERS.

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I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S GOT ANY 

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TRACTION WITH THE VOTERS. 

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>> LEAVE MY FELLOW COMMIE ALONE.

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HOW DID WE GET ALL THAT 

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COMMUNIST STUFF?

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I DON'T KNOW, THE MAN COULD HAVE

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A HAMMER AND SICKLE FLAG IN 

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FRONT OF HIS HOUSE.

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COMMUNISM IS NOT A  PARTY IN THE

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CITY OF ST. LOUIS, SO YES, I'M A

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COMMUNIST AND I'M RUNNING AS A 

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DEMOCRAT.

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I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 

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THAT. 

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>> THEN HE CAN SAY THAT.

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BERNIE SANDERS SAYS I'M A 

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SOCIALIS AND I'M RUNNING AS A 

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DEMOCRAT.

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THIS FELLOW DOESN'T SEEM TO WANT

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TO OWN UP TO BEING COMMUNIST. 

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>> IS BERNIE SANDERS REALLY A 

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SOCIALIST?

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IF I ASKED HIM TO MONEY, WOE 

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GIVE IT TO ME?

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>> I ALWAYS TROOB TRY TO BE A 

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CAPPIST WITH MY OWN MONEY AND A 

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SOCIALIST WITH OTHERS.

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BUT WHAT'S THIS ABOUT A 

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COLUMNIST NOT BEING ABLE -- 

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>> A COMMUNIST, NOT A COLUMNIST.

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>> ALVIN REID, LET'S MOVE ON.

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THE ILLINOIS GOVERNOR HAD A 

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SPEECH LAST NIGHT ON THE WOEFUL 

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STATE OF THE LAND OF LINCOLN AND

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HE BASICALLY SAID THEY GOT TO 

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START HAVING SPORTS GAMBLING AND

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TACK IT, GOT TO START SELLING 

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POT AND TAX IT, GOT TO START 

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LEVYING A STACKS ON PLASTIC 

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BAGS, HAVE A GRADUATED INCOME 

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TAX, AND HE'S GOT SOME OTHER 

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IDEAS AS WITH HE WILL.

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WHAT DO YOU THINK?

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>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL 

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LEADERSHIP.

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I ALSO THINK WE HAVE TO PUT 

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ANOTHER LANE ON THE POPLAR 

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STREET BRIDGE WHEN THAT HAPPENS 

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FOR ALL THE ST. LOUISANS RACING 

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OVER THERE TO MAKE A BET OR BUY 

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MARIJUANA, BRING THEIR MONEY 

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FROM NOW, RIGHT ON OVER TO 

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ILLINOIS AND WE'LL BE LAST.

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WE'LL BE THE LAST ONES, OH, MAN,

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ALL THE POT MONEY IS GONE AND 

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ALL THE GAMBLING MONEY IS GONE 

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BECAUSE ARKANSAS AND KANSAS AND 

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ILLINOIS GOT ON FIRST.

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LOOK, THEY'RE BROKE.

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WHEN YOU'RE BROKE, YOU NEED NEW 

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REVENUE, YOU NEED NEW MONEY.

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MEANWHILE IN MISSOURI, NO, WE'RE

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NOT GOING TO HAVE TOLL ROADS AND

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NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO RAISE THE

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GAS TAX AND NO THIS AND NO THAT,

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WHERE IN ILLINOIS, THEY SAY, 

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HEY, IF IT'S GOING TO BRING IN 

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MONEY, LENS DO IT. 

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>> WHAT ABOUT ATLANTIC CITY, 

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WHAT ABOUT LAS VEGAS?

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>> THAT'S SPORTS GAMBLING. 

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>> THAT'S A START.

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NEW JERSEY AND DELAWARE ARE 

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MAKING ABOUT FIVE TIMES AS MUCH 

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MONEY AS THEY ORIGINALLY THOUGHT

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THEY WOULD.

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>> GOOD OLD ALVIN, WE'RE HEARD 

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THIS BEFORE WITH CASINO GAMING, 

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WITH THE LOTTERY, WITH SO MANY 

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DIFFERENT THINGS, LET'S TAX 

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ALCOHOL AND THAT DOESN'T WORK.

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THE KEY TO A STATE IS YOU HAVE 

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TO EDUCATE THE PEOPLE, HAVE A 

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GREAT EDUCATED WORKFORCE, 

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ATTRACT BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW -- 

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>> WELL, AND THAT'S -- EXCUSE 

24:30.261 --> 24:33.798
ME, CHARLIE, THAT SPEAKS TO 

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ALVIN'S POINT BECAUSE MISSOURI 

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HAS PRIDED ITSELF ON DOING 

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EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO TREAT 

24:39.570 --> 24:40.671
REVENUES AS IF THEY WERE A 

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DISEASE, AND AS A RESULT OF 

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THAT, WE ARE 40-SOMETHING IN HOW

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MUCH WE INVEST IN EDUCATION 

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AND -- 

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>> BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT 

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ILLINOIS. 

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>> BUT MY POINT IS, WE'VE 

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ALREADY DONE AWAY WITH ADULT 

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ENTERTAINMENT FOR YEARS.

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THE ST. LOUIS AREA HAS ADULT 

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ENTERTAINMENT CLUBS JUST LIKE 

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EVERY OTHER BIG CITY AND THEY'RE

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ZONED INTO ILLINOIS AND -- 

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>> AND?

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>> AND A LOT OF MONEY THEY TAX 

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THAT WOULD BE GOING TO THE CITY 

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OF ST. LOUIS -- 

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>> YOU SEE THOSE TOWNS?

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THEY'RE DOING REALLY WELL.

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THEY'RE JUST FLUSH WITH CASH.

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IS THAT THE BEST EXAMPLE YOU CAN

25:20.578 --> 25:20.845
HAVE?

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>> NO, PROBABLY THE WORST 

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EXAMPLE, BUT THE POINT IS, IT'S 

25:23.848 --> 25:25.383
AN EXAMPLE MUCH LIKE GAMBLING 

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AND OTHER VICES, THAT THE VICES 

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EXIST AND THE MONEY GOES WITH 

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IT. 

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>> I KNOW THEY EXIST.

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[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ]

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>> BUT TO EXPLOIT IT -- 

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>> IF YOU LEGALIZE POT, YOU CAN 

25:35.226 --> 25:36.093
SETTLE DOWN A LITTLE BIT. 

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>> NO, THE NEW STUDY SAID THERE 

25:38.396 --> 25:40.631
WAS A LINK BETWEEN NOT AND 

25:40.765 --> 25:40.998
VIOLENCE. 

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>> I TELL YOU -- BETWEEN POT AND

25:43.968 --> 25:44.201
VIOLENCE. 

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>> WOW.

25:44.669 --> 25:45.703
I TELL YOU THERE'S A LOT OF 

25:45.836 --> 25:46.671
MONEY THAT LEAVES MISSOURI -- 

25:46.804 --> 25:49.340
>> LET'S GO TO THE NAIL GAG AND 

25:49.473 --> 25:50.574
SEE WHAT YOU HAVE HAD TO SAY.

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I'M NOT SAYING IT'S GOOD OR BAD 

25:53.210 --> 25:55.546
LONG TERM, BUT LET'S NOT PRETEND

25:55.680 --> 25:56.614
THAT BER TOGETHER IS ANYTHING 

25:56.747 --> 25:57.682
MORE THAN A REDISTRIBUTION OF 

25:57.815 --> 26:01.152
THE AREA'S WEALTH AND RESOURCES.

26:01.285 --> 26:08.025
THAT FROM JOHN OF ST. PETERS.

26:08.159 --> 26:11.162
TIM KING WROTE THAT TT UNKNOWNS 

26:11.295 --> 26:13.998
WOULD BE BETTER THAN THE 

26:14.131 --> 26:15.199
INEQUITIES PRESENT IN THE 

26:15.332 --> 26:16.200
DEVELOPMENT OF POST BANKRUPT 

26:16.333 --> 26:16.534
DETROIT.

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WRITE US CARE OF KETC, 3655 

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OLIVE STREET, ST. LOUIS, 

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MISSOURI 63108.

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DON'T FORGET THE LETTERS AT 

26:26.110 --> 26:30.514
KETC.ORG AND THE TWEETS, 

26:30.648 --> 26:30.981
#DONNYBROOKSTL.

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YOU CAN FOLLOW US ON SPOTIFY, 

26:33.117 --> 26:35.619
TUNE HUNDRED AND GOOGLE PLAY.

26:35.753 --> 26:39.356
DON'T FORGET THE TWEETS BECAUSE 

26:39.490 --> 26:40.725
ALVIN AND WENDY WILL REALIZE 

26:40.858 --> 26:42.560
THOSE IN A MATTER OF -- READ 

26:42.693 --> 26:44.328
THOSE IN A MATTER OF MOMENTS.

26:44.462 --> 26:45.596
EVERYBODY ELSE WILL SEE YOU NEXT

26:45.730 --> 26:48.432
WEEK AT THIS TIME.

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>> Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE

26:49.633 --> 26:50.234
POSSIBLE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE 

26:50.367 --> 26:53.003
NINE NETWORK. 

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>>> LET'S ALL GO TO A&W.

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ALVIN AND WENDY WIESE. 

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>> I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SAID 

28:25.562 --> 28:25.729
THAT. 

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>> YOU GOT IT?

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>> I GOT IT.

28:30.067 --> 28:30.267
JUROR. 

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>> YOUR TURN AND WE START WITH 

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PETER IN NORTH ST. LOUIS.

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>> HI, PETER. 

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>> Caller: HELLO.

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EVERYBODY WAS IN FINE FORM.

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I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CAR 

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THIEFERY.

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>> ALL RIGHT . 

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>> Caller: CARS ARE A LARGE 

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ITEM, IT'S WELT AND COMPLETELY 

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NECESSARY FOR GETTING AROUND. 

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>> ABSOLUTELY. 

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>> Caller: JUST LIKE HORSES 

28:51.254 --> 28:51.421
WERE.

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>> YOU KNOW WHAT?

28:52.856 --> 28:53.657
PETER, I'M NOT GOING TO 

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INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I SAID THAT 

28:54.992 --> 28:55.459
IN THE -- 

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>> IN THE PRODUCTION MEETING. 

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>> IN THE PRODUCTION MEETING.

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GO AHEAD, AND I'M SORRY TO 

28:59.896 --> 29:01.131
INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I WANTED TO 

29:01.264 --> 29:02.833
THROW THAT OUT THERE.

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GO RIGHT AHEAD. 

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>> Caller: YEAH, JUST LIKE 

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HORSES WERE, CARS ARE VALUABLE, 

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CAR ARE VALUABLE AND HORSES WERE

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VALUABLE AND WE HAVE A FINE 

29:13.110 --> 29:16.446
TRADITION IN THE OLD WEST.

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HORSE THIEFERY WAS A HANGING 

29:18.882 --> 29:19.116
OFFENSE. 

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>> IT'S ALMOST AS IF YOU HAD A 

29:22.119 --> 29:23.253
MICROPHONE IN THE PRUK MEETING 

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BECAUSE THAT IS VER BAY ITEM 

29:24.821 --> 29:25.889
WHAT ALVIN SAID EARLIER TODAY. 

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>> I DID SAY THAT.

29:27.124 --> 29:28.925
I SAID BACK THEN, YOU COULD 

29:29.059 --> 29:29.726
SHOOT SOMEBODY AND THERE WOULD 

29:29.860 --> 29:30.794
BE AN INVESTIGATION AND ALL 

29:30.927 --> 29:31.094
THAT. 

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>> IT WAS LIKE, WELL, THEY TOOK 

29:32.829 --> 29:33.296
HIS HORSE. 

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>> THEY TOOK HIS HORSE, DEATH 

29:36.800 --> 29:37.000
PENALTY.

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THANK YOU, PETER. 

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>> THANKS, PEER.

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LET'S GO TO JIM IN SOUTH CITY.

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HI, JIM, WELCOME, YOU'RE ON 

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DONNYBROOK YOUR TURN.

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HOW ARE YOU?

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>> Caller: GOOD EVENING.

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I'M FINE, THANK YOU.

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THE COMMENT IS IN A COURSE IN A 

29:49.946 --> 29:51.348
PUBLIC SCHOOL IS TRULY ELECTIVE 

29:51.481 --> 29:54.384
AND THE CREDIT FOR THAT COURSE 

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WOULD NOT GO TO GRADUATION 

29:57.421 --> 29:58.488
CREDIT, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM 

29:58.622 --> 30:01.658
WITH AN OVERVIEW OF THE BIBLE, 

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HOPEFULLY INCLUDING OLD 

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TESTAMENT, NEW TESTAMENT, AND 

30:05.228 --> 30:07.364
POSSIBLY A UNIT ON THE KORAN.

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MY COMMENT, THANK YOU.

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>> ALL RIGHT.

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THANK YOU. 

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>> WELL, JIM, THAT'S VERY 

30:11.535 --> 30:13.503
RATIONAL AND I DIDN'T EVEN THINK

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ABOUT THE IT DOESN'T COUNT 

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TOWARD GRADUATION, SO THUS IF 

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YOU WANT TO DO IT, YOU DO IT, 

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AND THAT'S A GREAT -- 

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>> VERY GOOD POINT. 

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>> A GOOD COMMENT.

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LET'S GO TO CLIFFORD IN SUNSET 

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HILLS. 

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>> HI, CLIFFORD. 

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>> Caller: WENDY AND ALVIN, A 

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GREAT DISCUSSION TONIGHT AND 

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ALVIN, THAT IS THE COOLEST TIE 

30:36.193 --> 30:37.194
THAT YOU'RE WEARING.

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THE MONEY -- ALL THOSE BILLIONS 

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OF DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING TO BE 

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SAVED, THAT IS GREAT, BUT 

30:44.067 --> 30:46.069
THERE'S A STORY THAT GOES LIKE 

30:46.203 --> 30:46.369
THIS.

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THERE'S TWO PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT

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THE PROJECT AND THE TEST DATA, 

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AND ONE SAYS TO ONE, THE TEST 

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DATA DOESN'T SUPPORT OUR PLAN.

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AND THE RESPONSE IS, WE KNOW OUR

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PLAN IS BRILLIANT, SO JUST 

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ADJUST THE DATA TO SUPPORT IT, 

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AND THEN THE RESPONSE IS, YOU 

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MEAN FALSIFY THE DATA?

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AND THE RESPONSE IS, NO, NO, 

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LET'S NOT GET HUNG UP IN 

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DISCUSSING THE DEFINITION OF 

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THINGS.

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I WONDER IF THAT'S GOING TO WORK

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HERE TOO.

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>> I WAS JUST SAYING THAT -- AND

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WHAT YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING IS,

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AND I'M NOT PUTTING WORDS IN 

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YOUR MOUTH, BUT IF I COMMISSION 

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A STUDY AND I PAY FOR IT, MY 

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GUESS IS THAT STUDY IS GOING TO 

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COME BACK -- 

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>> REFLECT WHATEVER -- 

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>> WHATEVER I PAID FOR.

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>> LOOK AT THE NAME OF THE 

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ORGANIZATION FROM THE GET-GO 

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THAT WAS AN EXPLORATORY 

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ORGANIZATION, AS I RECALL.

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AND I THOUGHT AT LEAST THEY 

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COULD HAVE PUT A QUESTION MARK 

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BEHIND IT BECAUSE THERE WAS AN 

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IMPLIED, YOU KNOW, EXCLAMATION 

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POINT INSTEAD OF -- BECAUSE IT'S

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LIKE IT WAS ALREADY A FOREGONE 

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CONCLUSION.

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YOU THOUGHT WE WERE BETTER 

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TOGETHER, SO YES, YOU'RE 

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ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, CLIFFORD.

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WE COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE 

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AND WE'RE GLAD YOU CALLED. 

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>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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>> LET'S GO TO DEBBIE IN DES 

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PERES.

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HI, DEBBIE.

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WELCOME, YOU'RE ON DONNYBROOK 

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YOUR TURN. 

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>> Caller: I HAD A COMMENT ABOUT

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THE BETTER TOGETHER AND I'M GLAD

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ALVIN IS THERE.

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HE'S FAMILIAR WITH DES PERES.

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OUR MAYOR JUST PUT OUT A 

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NEWSLETTER THIS PAST WEEK AND IT

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REALLY PROMOTED HOW MUCH MONEY 

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WE WOULD LOSE OUR ENTIRE SALES 

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TAX AND AN EXCESS OF 

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$60 MILLION.

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I PASS DES PERES AND -- BYPASS 

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DES PERES AND GO TO THE CITY.

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THAT WOULD LEAVE NOTHING FOR THE

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CITY OF DUH FAIR BECAUSE WE DO 

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NOT -- DES PERES BECAUSE WE DO 

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NOT PAY TAXES IN DES PERES ON 

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CITY TAXES BECAUSE OF THE SALES 

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TAX, AND IT ALSO TOLD US IT 

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FLOWED ALL THE WAY DOWN, THEY 

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WILL HAVE CONTROL OF WHETHER OUR

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STREETS WILL BE PLOWED IN THE 

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WINTER, WHICH I THINK IS VERY 

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INTERESTING BECAUSE THEY DON'T 

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PLOW THEM IN THE CITY.

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BUT HE HAS SOME VERY GOOD 

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INFORMATION, AND I WISH I HADN'T

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THROWN IT AWAY, BUT IF ALVIN CAN

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GET A COPY OF THAT NEWSLETTER, 

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IT KIND OF PUTS IT INTO FACTS 

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FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE PLACES. 

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>> DEBBIE, I WANT TO BE VERY 

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CLEAR HERE, HE MIGHT BE 

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MR. KIRKWOOD, BUT MY FRIENDS AND

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I USED TO CRUISE DES PERES WHEN 

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I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL.

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JUST SAYING I AM FAMILIAR. 

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>> I'M GOING TO TELL ON MYSELF 

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RIGHT HERE, OKAY?

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WEST COUNTY MALL IS 50 YEARS OLD

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AND IT OPENED 50 YEARS AGO THIS 

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WEEK AND I WAS 8 YEARS OLD, AND 

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ABOUT, OH, MAYBE 15 YEARS AGO OR

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WHATEVER, THEY BLIGHTED IN DES 

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PERES, THE COUNCIL GOT IT PASTED

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THAT WEST COUNTY MALL WAS 

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BLIGHTED, AND I CALLED, WENT TO 

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THERE AND SAID, LOOK, YOU'RE 

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CHEATING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND

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ALL THAT OF TAXES BY DOING THIS.

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WELL, GUESS WHAT?

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THEY BLIGHTED IT.

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IT TURNED IT AROUND, IT'S VERY 

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SUCCESSFUL.

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THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT 

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PEOPLE IN DES PERES DON'T, YOU 

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KNOW, HAVE THE TAX BURDEN THAT 

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OTHER PLACES HAVE.

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ALL RIGHT, I WAS WRONG ON THAT.

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THEY WERE RIGHT, BUT NOW HERE WE

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COME TO THE POINT WHERE DEBBIE 

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IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

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IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW WE GOT 

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HERE.

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WE'RE HERE NOW AND THE WHOLE 

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IDEA THAT NOW WE HAVE TO, LIKE, 

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MAYBE FLOAT OTHER PEOPLE, I'M 

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NOT DOWN IT WITH, DEBBIE.

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NOT AT ALL.

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>> HUH-UH, NO.

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SHE FOUND A FAMILIAR FRIEND 

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HERE, SO -- 

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>> THERE YOU GO. 

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>> THANKS, DEBBIE. 

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>> WE'VE TWEETS, WENDY. 

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>> LET'S START WITH OUR TWEET @

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@SHORTSTOP.

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ANYTHING THAT GETS RID OF THE 

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CITY'S EARNING TAX IS GREAT.

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ILLINOIS MILEAGE TAX AS 

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NONSTARTER.

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THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WAY.

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THANK YOU @MRSSHORTSTOP. 

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>> SISTER SARAH 23, THE BIBLE 

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ISN'T JUST A HISTORICAL TEXT.

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WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER TO USE 

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HISTORIC BOOKS TO TEACH ANCIENT 

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HISTORY AND GEOGRAPHY OF THE 

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MIDEAST?

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>> THANK YOU, @SISTERSARAH.

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@MARYBWILD, PERHAPS HAVE AN 

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ELECTIVE COURSE IN PUBLIC HIGH 

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SCHOOLS CALLED RELIGIONS OF THE 

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WORLD, BUT EMBRACING ONE 

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RELIGION OVER ANOTHER OR HOLDING

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A RELIGION CLASS THAT PRACTICES 

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SELLY TIESES ON ONE SPECIFIC 

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FAITH CROSS AND LINE BETWEEN 

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SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE 

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AND I THINK MARY B. WILD MIGHT 

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ACTUALLY BE RAY HARTMANN. 

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>> THAT'S WHAT HE WAS SAYING, 

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EXACTLY. 

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>> THAT WAS THE POINT HE WAS 

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TRYING TO MAKE, BUT YOUR TWEETS 

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ARE WELCOME.

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#DONNYBROOKSTL.

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THANK YOU ALL.

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>> LET'S GO TO SUZETTE IN 

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SWANSEA.

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>> Caller: HI, WENDY.

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HI, ALVIN.

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I AM ALL FOR BIBLE STUDY IN 

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SCHOOL AND LET ME JUST TELL YOU 

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WHY.

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CHILDREN NEED -- OUR CHILDREN 

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NEED SOMETHING, SOME FORM OF 

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SELF RESPECT AND RESPECT FOR 

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OTHERS AND THE BIBLE WILL TEACH 

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THAT.

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NOW, I KNOW THE SEPARATION OF 

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STATE AND GOVERNMENT, I 

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UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, BUT HAVE 

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YOU EVER JUST SAT DOWN AND SEE 

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THE STATE THAT -- WHAT CHILDREN 

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ARE FACING AND WHAT TEACHERS 

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FACE RIGHT NOW WITH STUDENTS?

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THEY HAVE NO -- MAJORITY HAVE NO

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RESPECT FOR ONE ANOTHER, 

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NEVERTHELESS THE TEACHERS.

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NOW, IF THIS WAS GOING TO BE A 

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REQUIREMENT FOR GRADUATION, I 

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WOULD SAY NO, BUT THIS IS AN 

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ELECTIVE.

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THESE STUDENTS DON'T HAVE TO 

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TAKE THIS FOR GRADUATION.

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IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT IT'S AN

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ELECTIVE.

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NOW, WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH 

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THE WORDS, MAYBE, BIBLE STUDY.

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CAN WE JUST CHANGE THAT WORD?

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I THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM, 

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BIBLE STUDY.

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I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING WITH THE 

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KORAN OR GREEK SCRIPTURES OR 

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HEBREW SCRIPTURES THAT WILL NOT 

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TEACH SELF RESPECT AND RESPECT 

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FOR OTHERS AND THAT'S WHAT OUR 

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YOUNG CHILDREN NEED.

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THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

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APPARENTLY THEY'RE NOT GETTING 

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IT AT HOME, SO IF WE HAVE TO PUT

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IT IN SCHOOLS, WE HAVE TO PUT IT

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IN SCHOOLS. 

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>> SUZETTE, I WANT YOU TO 

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UNDERSTAND, I THINK IT'S OKAY TO

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TEACH HISTORY OF, LITERATURE OF.

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WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I TOTALLY 

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DISAGREE WITH.

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THIS IS NOT ABOUT BRINGING THE 

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BIBLE AND BRINGING THE 

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PRINCIPLES OF THE BIBLE INTO A 

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PUBLIC SCHOOL SETTING.

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THIS IS ABOUT WHERE THINGS 

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HAPPENED, HOW THEY WERE WRITTEN 

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AND IT WILL POINT OUT THAT WHAT 

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IS IN THE BIBLE THAT SAYS 

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HAPPENED AT THIS TIME REALLY 

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DIDN'T HAPPEN AT THAT TIME.

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IMPOSSIBLE, ALL RIGHT?

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THIS IS NOT, LIKE, SAYING DON'T 

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BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE OR ANYTHING

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LIKE THAT, BUT I'M SAYING WHAT 

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YOU'RE SAYING, I TOTALLY 

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DISAGREE WITH BECAUSE THIS IS 

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ABOUT HISTORY OF, LITERATURE OF.

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I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 

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THAT. 

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>> AND SUZETTE, I, AS A 

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CHRISTIAN OBVIOUSLY AND ALVIN AS

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A CHRISTIAN, WE ARE IN AGREEMENT

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WITH YOU IN TERMS OF THE 

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PRECEPTS, BUT YOU'RE NEVER GOING

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TO GET IT PAST THE SCHOOL BOARD.

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THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THE -- THOSE

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CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS IN 

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PLACE, SEPARATING CHURCH AND 

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STATE, BUT YEAH, YOU'RE TALKING 

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ABOUT USING THE BIBLE AS A WAY 

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OF LIVING AND I THINK THAT'S 

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WHAT ALVIN IS SAYING.

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THAT'S WHERE WE -- THAT'S WHERE 

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THE LINE GETS A LITTLE FUZZY, 

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BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR OPINION 

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AND WE'RE VERY GLAD YOU CALLED 

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AND WE HOPE YOU CALL BACK. 

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>> RIGHT, I'M NOT INSULTING OR 

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MAD AT YOU IN THE LEAST.

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I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND 

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WHERE I'M COMING FROM, BUT 

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YOU'RE RIGHT.

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RESPECT IS LACKING, BUT PUBLIC 

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SCHOOL IS NOT THE PLACE TO BRING

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THE BIBLE TO TEACH PEOPLE 

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RESPECT.

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THAT'S GOT TO GO ON IN THE 

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CHURCH AND THAT'S GOT TO GO ON 

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IN YOUR  HOME.

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BUT THANK YOU, SUZETTE.

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>> THANK YOU.

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LET'S GO TO BILL IN SOUTH 

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COUNTY.

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HI, BILL.

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WELCOME, YOU'RE ON DONNYBROOK 

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YOUR TURN.

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>> Caller: WELL, THANK YOU FOR 

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TAKING MY CALL. 

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>> ALL RIGHT. 

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>> YOU'RE WELCOME. 

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>> Caller: I WANT TO TALK ABOUT 

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THE CARJACKING ISSUE. 

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>> ALL RIGHT.

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>> Caller: SOMETHING THAT I HAVE

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NOT SEEN IS THE STATISTICS ON 

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HOW MANY CARS ARE HOTWIRED AND 

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STOLEN VERSUS CARJACKING.

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I THINK THAT THEY PROBABLY HAVE 

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DROPPED TREMENDOUSLY.

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MOST NEW CARS REQUIRE A FOB FOR 

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YOU TO DRIVE AND EVERYTHING LIKE

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THAT, AND THAT'S THE REASON 

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THEY'RE APPROACHING THE DRIVER 

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AND EVERYTHING TO GET THAT KEY 

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WITH THE FOB.

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>> OKAY.

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>> Caller: I THINK TECHNOLOGY 

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HAS SWITCHED IT OVER WHERE THERE

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ARE PEOPLE IN DANGER JUST 

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BECAUSE YOU CAN'T STEAL A CAR.

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OF COURSE, IF YOU GOT A MANUAL 

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TRANSMISSION, NOBODY WILL STEAL 

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IT ANYWAY.

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MOST OF THESE KIDS CAN'T DRIVE 

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IT. 

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>> I HEAR YOU. 

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>> I HAVE AN OLD CAR, SO I DON'T

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HAVE ONE OF THE HIGH TECHIE FOBS

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AND I'VE HEARD ABOUT CARS -- 

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WHAT IS IT, THEY'LL STOP IN THE 

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MIDDLE OF THE INTERSECTION?

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>> THEY'LL STOP. 

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>> THAT'S NEWS TO ME. 

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>> AND OVER TIME N TEN YEARS, 

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CARJACKING, THEY'LL ALL BE THAT,

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BUT ONE OF OUR GUESTS, SARAH FEN

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FENSKI WITH RIVERFRONT TIMES, 

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SHE POINTED THAT ONE OF THE 

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PROBLEMS THAT'S CREATED IS YOU 

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HAVE TO HAVE THE FOB TO DRIVE 

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THE CAR, SO THUS, IF I'M GOING 

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TO STEAL ONE, ALL OF A SUDDEN, I

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GOT TO PHYSICALLY TAKE THE CAR.

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EXCELLENT CALL. 

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>> THANK YOU, BILL.

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>> ANOTHER BILL, BONNE TERRE.

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HI, BILL. 

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>> HI, BILL. 

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>> Caller: I DON'T ADVOCATE 

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KILLING PEOPLE OVER PROPERTY 

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CRIMES, I DON'T THINK THAT'S G 

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BUT I THINK PART OF OUR PROBLEM 

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IS WE'VE TAKEN THE PUNISHMENT 

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OUT OF PRISON.

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YOU KNOW, THERE'S AIR 

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CONDITIONING, THERE'S TV, 

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THERE'S -- IT'S TOO COMFORTABLE.

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IF YOU COMMIT A CRIME WHERE 

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YOU'RE A CAR JACKER OR A VIOLENT

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CRIME AGAINST SOMEBODY, YOU 

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SHOULD GO TO A PRISON THAT IS 

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MORE LIKE THE PRISON OF OUR 

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ANCESTORS.

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NOT WHERE YOU'RE MISTREATED, BUT

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WHERE YOU'RE UNCOMFORTABLE AND 

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YOU WORK, AND I THINK THAT WOULD

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GO A LONG WAY TO CHANGING THE 

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CRIME RATE IN THIS COUNTRY.

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AND AS FAR AS THE BIBLE THING, 

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THE FIRST THING THAT'S GOING TO 

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HAND IS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 

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SOME SMART ASS SAY WE HAVE TO 

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HAVE A DAY FOR THE SATANIC 

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BIBLE. 

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>> GOOD POINT.

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THANKS, BILL. 

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>> Caller: YOU CAN'T DO THAT. 

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>> I THAER WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, 

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BUT THE CONSTITUTION, WE DECIDED

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YEARS AGO THAT CRUEL AND UNUSUAL

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PUNISHMENT WAS OUT OF HAND.

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SO LIKE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE 

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DEVIL'S ISLAND AND -- BUT I HEAR

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WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

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BUT, LOOK, IF YOU GOT TO SERVE 

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TEN YEARS, YOU CAN SERVE IT WITH

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AIR CONDITIONING, SERVE IT WITH 

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CABLE, YOU CAN SERVE IT ANY WAY 

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YOU WANT TO, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO

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DO TEN YEARS. 

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>> DO YOU REMEMBER THE LAWSUIT 

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OF THE GUY THAT SUED BECAUSE HIS

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PIECES OF CHOCOLATE CAKE WEREN'T

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BIG ENOUGH?

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THAT IS NOT -- THAT IS NOT 

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PAPILION. 

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>> EXACTLY.

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WE HAVE TO FIND THE MIDDLE. 

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>> THE GOLDEN MIDDLE.

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LET'S GO TO MIKE IN LEE MAY.

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YOU'RE ON DONNYBROOK YOUR TURN. 

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>> Caller: HI.

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I ENJOYED THE PROGRAM IMMENSELY 

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TONIGHT.

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I'VE BEEN WAITING MONTHS FOR THE

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SUBJECT TO COME UP WITH THE CAR 

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JACKINGS, THE PROBLEMS WE'VE 

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HAD.

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I'M 73 YEARS OWED, I LIVED IN 

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ST. LOUIS -- OLD, I LIVED IN 

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ST. LOUIS IN AND AROUND MOST OF 

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MY LIFE EXCEPT WHEN I WAS IN THE

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SERVICE, AND THE LAST FEW YEARS,

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IT'S BEEN UNBELIEVABLE, YOU 

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KNOW, THE THIEVERY, THREATENING 

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THE CITIZENS, TAKING THEIR KA, 

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-- TAKING THEIR CARS AND I 

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FIRMLY BELIEVE, YOU TAKE A CAR, 

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YOU THREATEN A PERSON WITH A 

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CAR, WHETHER YOU KILL THEM OR 

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NOT, YOU'RE SLATED FOR THE DEATH

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PENALTY. 

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>> YOU CAN'T GO THAT FAR BECAUSE

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KEEP IN MIND -- 

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>> Caller: I WOULD IF I WAS THE 

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GOVERNOR.

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I CERTAINLY WOULD. 

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>> I HEAR YOU, MIKE, BUT AT THE 

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SAME TIME, THAT MEANS THAT ANY 

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CRIME THAT YOU COMMIT WITH A 

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GUN, THAT YOU WOULD GET THE 

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DEATH PENALTY.

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SO I DON'T WANT TO GO THAT FAR, 

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BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS THAT 

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WHATEVER THE SPECIFIC CRIME IS 

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THAT YOU'RE CHARGED WITH AND YOU

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MIGHT GET TWO TO THREE YEARS 

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FOR, YOU UP THAT.

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YOU TRIPLE THAT.

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I'M GOOD.

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BUT IF YOU GO TO WHERE YOU'RE 

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GOING, THAT MEANS ANYTIME YOU 

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FULL A GUN OUT AND YOU ROB 

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7-ELEVEN, YOU ROB ANYBODY UNDER 

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ANY REASON WITH A GUN, THEN 

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YOU'RE SLATED FOR THE DEATH 

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PENALTY.

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YOU CAN'T GO THAT FAR, BUT I 

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HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 

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>> MIKE AS THROWBACK FOR YOUR 

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HORSE THIEVERY. 

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>> YES, EXACTLY.

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>> THANKS, MIKE.

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LET'S GO TO TERRI IN AFFTON.

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>> Caller: HI, THANKS.

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YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT SHOW 

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TONIGHT AND I DO LOVE ALVIN'S 

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TIE. 

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>> THANK YOU. 

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>> Caller: ABOUT THE CARJACKING,

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I'VE HAD THIS IDEA FOR A WHILE.

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WE SHOULD MAKE IT UNCOOL TO CAR 

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JACK.

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YOU GOT TWO KIDS WITH TWO GUNS 

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AND INSTEAD OF SPENDING THE 

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MONEY GETTING A GUN, WHY DON'T 

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YOU TWO GUYS PUT YOUR MONEY 

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TOGETHER AND BUY A CAR, YOU 

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KNOW.

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SHARE IT.

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WHY DON'T WE HAVE A PROGRAM 

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THROUGH THE SCHOOLS THESE KIDS 

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WITH, YOU KNOW, WORK ON A CAR 

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AND EARN A CAR INSTEAD OF MAKING

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IT COOL TO, YOU KNOW, GO STEAL 

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ONE.

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IT'S NOT COOL.

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HOW DO WE GET THE MESSAGE OUT, 

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YOU KNOW?

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>> I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, 

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THAT THE WHOLE THING WITH LIKE, 

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YOU KNOW, IF YOU WORK ON CARS, 

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YOU KNOW CARS, MAYBE YOU WANT TO

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CAR AND ALL THAT, BUT AT THE 

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SAME TIME, WE'RE DEALING WITH A 

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DIFFERENT -- TERRI, I DON'T KNOW

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WHAT AGE YOU ARE, BUT YOU SOUND 

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ABOUT MY AGE, OKAY?

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AND HOW THESE YOUNG CATS, BLACK,

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WHITE, ASIAN, WHATEVER, IT'S 

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DIFFERENT THAN HOW WE SAW IT AND

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WHY THEY DO THINGS THEY DO, I 

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DON'T HAVE AN EXPLANATION FOR.

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WHAT I HAVE IS PUNISH THEM FOR 

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DOING THESE OUT-OF-CONTROL 

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THINGS AND MAYBE AS YOU GET 

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OLDER, YOU GET MORE CONSERVATIVE

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AND YOU GET MORE, YOU KNOW, 

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PENALTY-BASED INSTEAD OF LET'S 

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EDUCATE THEM BASED, BUT YOU 

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KNOW, LIKE DON'T DO IT.

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I DON'T HAVE TO -- I DON'T HAVE 

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TO CREATE A PROGRAM THAT TEACHES

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NOW NOT TO DO IT.

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HOW ABOUT DON'T DO IT OR FACE 

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THE PENALTY?

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>> YEAH, I'M WITH YOU.

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THANK YOU, TERRI.

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WE APPRECIATE IT.

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WHERE WE GOING NOW?

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>> JANET IN WEBSTER.

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HI, JANET. 

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>> Caller: HI, ALVIN, WENDY.

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A LOT OF GOOD TOPICS TONIGHT, I 

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ALWAYS WATCH YOUR SHOW.

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I'M CALLING TO TALK ABOUT THE 

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CLASS, THE ALTERNATIVE CLASS FOR

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THE STUDENTS WITH THE BIBLE 

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THUMPERS TEACHING BIBLE. 

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>> COME ON NOW.

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THAT WAS AN EDITORIAL COMMENT. 

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>> I PAY HIGH TAXES HERE IN 

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WEBSTER AND I WOULD LIKE MY 

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TAXES TO GO FOR THE CHILDREN TO 

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LEARN HOW TO DRIVE A CAR.

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IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING WE NO 

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LONGER TEACH DRIVER'S ED.

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>> THAT IS CORRECT. 

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>> Caller: AND THIS WOULD BE A 

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BETTER WAY FOR ALL THOSE 

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STUDENTS TO DO THEIR CIVIC DUTY 

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AND LEARN HOW TO DRIVE A CAR. 

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>> OKAY.

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>> Caller: SO THAT'S MY TWO 

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CENTS FOR WHERE I WOULD LIKE THE

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SCHOOL DISTRICT TO SPEND MY 

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MONEY THAT I PAY FOR SCHOOL 

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TAXES FOR THOSE STUDENTS.

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I DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR VARIOUS 

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RELIGIOUS CLASSES IF WE ALLOW 

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THE BIBLE TO BE TAUGHT, WE'RE 

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GOING TO HAVE TO LET THE KORAN 

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AND ALL THESE OTHERS, SO THAT'S 

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MY FEELINGS ON THAT TOPIC. 

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>> JANET, HAVE YOU EVER STATUTE 

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A TEENAGER HOW TO DRIVE?

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>> Caller: NO, I HAVE NOT. 

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>> I HAVE, TWO. 

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>> YOU WILL, AND I HAVE.

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A BELIEF SYSTEM WILL COME IN 

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HANDY.

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YOU'VE GOT TO TRUST ME ON THAT 

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BECAUSE -- 

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>> ABSOLUTELY. 

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>> YOU WILL NEED ONE WHEN YOU 

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GET BEHIND THE WHEEL WITH A 

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16-YEAR-OLD.

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JUST SAYIN'.

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SO THANK YOU, THOUGH. 

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>> Caller: SO YOU ARE IN FAVOR 

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OF HAVING IT TAUGHT BY A 

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PROFESSIONAL AT A SCHOOL?

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>> ABSOLUTELY.

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>> WE HAD TO.

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OUR KIDS WENT TO PRIVATE SCHOOL 

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AND WE HAD TO PAY FOR A DRIVER 

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EDUCATION COURSE. 

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>> YEAH, I DID, TOO, BUT WE 

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TAUGHT THEM, AND YOU'RE 

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ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, BUT I WISH 

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THEY DID HAVE IT IN SKAL. 

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>> WE SUPPLEMENTED, BUT I DO 

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HAVE A LOT OF GRAY HAIR FROM 

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THAT TIME PERIOD. 

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>> MORE TWEETS, WENDY. 

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>> GOING BACK TO THE 

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TWITTERVERSE. 

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>> NOPASSION7, BECAUSE WESTERN 

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LITERATURE IS FRAUGHT WITH LIB 

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PUBLIC CAL REFERENCES -- 

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BIBLICAL REFERENCES IN THE 

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LITERARY ASPECTS OF THE BIBLE 

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SEEMS LIKE A GOOD IDEA, AN 

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ESSENTIAL FOR AN ASPIRING 

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ENGLISH LIT MAJOR.

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>> AT MIKE, BETTER TOGETHER'S 

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PROMISE OF PIE IN THE SKY -- 

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ANOTHER EDITORIAL COMMENT, 

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BENEFITS SEEM TO BE USING THE 

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SAME EVIDENCE AS THE BREXIT 

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PROPONENTS WHO PROMISED A 

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GREAT -- WHO PROMISE GREAT 

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THINGS FOR GREAT BRITAIN.

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THANK YOU @MIKE. 

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>> AND MERT, IF PARENTS WANT 

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THEIR KIDS TO LEARN ABOUT THE 

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BIBLE OR ANY OTHER RELIGIOUS 

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TEXT, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF 

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CHURCHES AND RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS 

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TO CHOOSE FROM.

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RELIGION DOESN'T BELONG IN 

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PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

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#DONNYBROOKSTL.

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>> WE STILL HAVE TIME FOR YOU. 

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>> ABSOLUTELY.

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CANDY, OLIVETTE.

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>> I THINK WE MISSED DAVE. 

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>> OH, DAVE IN WASHINGTON.

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SORRY, DAVE.

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>> Caller: HEY, GOOD EVENING.

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THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL. 

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>> ABSOLUTELY. 

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>> Caller: JUST A COUPLE 

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COMMENTS ON THE BIBLE STUDY IN 

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SCHOOL.

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I HAD FOUR SONS WHO WENT TO 

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CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL, ONE OF 

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THEIR REQUIRED CLASSES WAS WORLD

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RELIGIONS.

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I GOT TO PARTICIPATE IN A FIELD 

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TRIP TO A SYNAGOGUE, NEVER BEEN 

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IN ONE BEFORE.

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I ACTUALLY THINK TOWARD THE 

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TENS, MY YOUNGEST SON GOT 

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COLLEGE CREDIT FOR IT, SO IT WAS

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THE STUDY OF RELIGION IN THE 

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WORLD.

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IT WASN'T ANY PARTICULAR THING 

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AND I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT.

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THE OTHER COMMENT I HAVE IS BY 

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THE TIME IT GETS TO COMMITTEE, 

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THEY WILL NEVER AGREE TO WHICH 

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BIBLE TO USE, SO I DON'T THINK 

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WE HAVE ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.

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>> EXCELLENT CALL, EXCELLENT.

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>> EXCELLENT POINT, KING JAMES. 

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>> THE NEW ABRIDGED, ON AND ON.

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THAT WILL TAKE -- 

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>> WHAT A WONDERFUL CALL. 

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>> THANK YOU, DAVE. 

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>> NOW CINDY IN OLIVETTE.

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HI, CINDY. 

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>> Caller: HI, HOW ARE YOU GUYS?

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>> FINE, THANK YOU. 

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>> JUST FINE. 

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>> Caller: I WANTED TO TALK TO 

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YOU ABOUT THE CARJACKING ISSUE.

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I HAVE A 20-YEAR-OLD TOYOTA 

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TACOMA, SO I'M KIND OF LIKE 

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WENDY.

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I GOT AN OLD DOG TRUCK.

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THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO POINT A

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GUN AT ME TO GET ME OUT OF IT, 

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BUT MY CONCERN IS, AND I WONDER 

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IF ANYBODY HAS LOOKED INTO THIS 

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EVER BEFORE, ARE PEOPLE -- ARE 

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WOMEN WITH CHILDREN AND FAMILIES

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AND ELDERLY BEING MORE TARGETED,

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ESPECIALLY IN THOSE INCIDENTS?

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THAT'S A CONCERN.

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>> ALL RIGHT, MOST -- 

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>> Caller: NOW, MY OTHER THING 

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IS I AM A HISTORY MAJOR.

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I AM -- MAN, I AM A HISTORY 

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BUFF.

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I DO NOT SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH

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HAVING A CLASS ABOUT WORLD 

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RELIGIONS.

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I WENT TO -- I WENT TO KAISER 

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SCHOOL, SO HEY, ALVIN, IN 

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KIRKWOOD. 

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>> KIRKWOOD, YEAH. 

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>> Caller: AND THEN I WENT TO 

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UNIVERSITY CITY SCHOOLS AND WE 

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STUDY BUDDHISBUDDHISM, HINDUISM, 

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STUDIED THE TORATORAH, THE HISTORY 

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OF THE BIBLE, BUT IT WAS IN THE 

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CONTEXT OF A STUDY OF A PIECE OF

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LITERATURE.

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NOW, I KNOW LITTLE OR NOTHING 

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ABOUT THE TORAH, BUT I -- OR THE

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KORAN, BUT I WORKED WITH PEOPLE 

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WHO ARE MUSLIM AND SO THEY 

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TAUGHT ME STUFF JUST TALKING TO 

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ME, SO I'M NOT AGAINST THAT.

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YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M A 

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PRESBYTERIAN.

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U-CITY PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH AT 

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MID LAND AND DELMAR, SO WE HAVE 

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SAINT JAMES AND I'M SURE THERE'S

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GOING TO BE A DUST STORM ABOUT 

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THAT, BUT FROM A HISTORICAL AND 

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UNDERSTANDING STANDPOINT, A 

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WORLD RELIGION, AND I'M GOING 

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WAY PAST THE THREE BASIC ONES 

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YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW, 

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BUT LET'S GET TO IT.

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UNDERSTAND PEOPLE THAT ARE 

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DIFFERENT THAN YOURSELF. 

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>> THERE YOU GO, CINDY.

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THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, TOO.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH, ALL RIGHT?

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>> AND MAYBE WE HAVE SUCH 

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IMPASSES TODAY BECAUSE WE 

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STOPPED TEACHING THAT KIND OF 

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STUFF. 

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>> EXACTLY, RIGHT. 

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>> THANK YOU, CINDY. 

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>> CHARLIE IN NORTH COUNTY.

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HI, CHARLIE.

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>> Caller: HI.

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GREAT SHOW AND ACTUALLY, I HAD A

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QUESTION FOR ALVIN. 

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>> SURE. 

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>> Caller: BECAUSE HE TOOK ME 

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BACK TO A SIMPLER TIME WHEN HE 

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WAS -- WHEN YOU WERE TALKING 

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ABOUT THE POLITICIANS CHANGING 

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THEIR NAME.

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YOU SAID SEBASTIAN CABOT AND BE 

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HONEST, WERE YOU THINKING OF 

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FAMILY AFFAIR?

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>> OF COURSE HE WAS.

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I HEARD THE MUSIC. 

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>> I WAS GRABBING A NAME OUT OF 

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THE AIR AND WHY THAT CAME TO ME,

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I I HAVE NO IDEA. 

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>> I HEAR THE MUSIC.

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DID ANYBODY ELSE HEAR THE MUSIC?

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* [ SINGING ] 

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>>. 

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>> Caller: I THOUGHT, WHEN ALVIN

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GETS OFF, HE'S GOING TO RUN HOME

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AND WATCH TV LAND. 

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>> I WAS REACHING FOR A NAME AND

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THAT'S THE ONE THAT CAME UP.

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BUT IT WAS FAMILY AFFAIR, IT 

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WAS. 

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>> I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.

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MR. BILL OR -- WAS IT 

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MR. FRENCH -- -- 

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>> IN FRENCH. 

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>> AND UNCLE BILL.

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THANK YOU , CHARLIE FOR TAKING US

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DOWN MEMORY LANE.

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LET'S GO TO JULES IN HIGHLAND, 

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ILLINOIS?

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>> Caller: GREAT SHOW TONIGHT 

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AND GREAT TOPICS.

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I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT 

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RELIGION.

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I WENT TO CATHOLIC SCHOOL AND 

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CHURCH EVERY MORNING AND THEY 

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SHOULD TEACH SOMETHING IN 

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SCHOOL.

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THEY HAVE MATH, YOU KNOW, 

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EVERYTHING AND THEY SHOULD TEACH

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SOMETHING HOW PEOPLE SHOULD 

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TREAT PEOPLE.

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THAT'S MY COMMENT.

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>> OKAY.

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WELL, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN HAVE

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DIGNITY CLASS. 

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>> AND I DO THINK THAT WE HAVE 

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HEARD OF TEACHERS WHO HAVE 

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PHONED IN TO THE PROGRAM WHO 

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SAID THAT THEY HAVE 

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CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW TO TREAT

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PEOPLE WHO ARE DIFFERENT, SO 

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MAYBE THAT IS HAPPENING.

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WE HAVE A LOT OF FLURRY OF 

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ACTIVITY HERE IN THE LAST COUPLE

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OF SECONDS. 

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>> OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO 

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DONNA.

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HI, DONNA. 

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>> Caller: HI THERE.

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I HAVE TWO THINGS.

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I THINK IF YOU HAVE TO STAY IN 

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PRISON TEN YEARS MANDATORY FOR 

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STEALING A CAR, IT DON'T MATTER 

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IF THEY GOT AC OR WHATEVER IN 

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THE PRISON OR NOT.

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WHO WANTS TO BE LOCKED UP FOR 

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TEN YEARS, COME ON?

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SECONDLY, THEY DON'T NEED 

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DEVIL'S ISLAND.

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JUST THROW AWAY THE KEY FOR TEN 

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YEARS.

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THAT'S THE MIDDLE GROUND. 

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>> THANKS, DONNA.

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WE AGREE, WOW!

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>> I DON'T KNOW IN WILDWOOD, HI,

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JOHN. 

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>> Caller: QUICKLY, I WENT TO 

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PAROCHIAL AND PUBLIC SCHOOLS, SO

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I BELIEVE IN THE SEPARATION OF 

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CHURCH AND STATE, BUT DO YOU 

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FEEL AT SOME POINT THE PLEDGE OF

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ALLEGIANCE IN SCHOOLS BECOMES A 

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TIPPING POINT FOR THIS WHOLE 

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DEBATE AND THAT'S MY QUESTION. 

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>> I DON'T.

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I THINK IT'S TWO SEPARATE ISSUES

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COMPLETELY.

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>> SO YOU AND I ARE IN AGREEMENT

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ON ONE NATION UNDER GOD. 

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>> WELL, IN GOD WE TRUST OR ONE 

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NATION UNDER GOD, EVERYBODY HAS 

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A GOD. 

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>> SO YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM 

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WITH THAT?

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>> NOT REALLY.

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WHO'S YOUR GOD?

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IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT, 

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DON'T DO IT.

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I WOULD RATHER NOT PUT THE KIDS 

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OR PARENTS OR ANYTHING WILL YOU 

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THAT, JUST LEAVE IT ALONE.

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AT THE SAME TIME, WHO'S YOUR 

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GOD?

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YOU WORSHIP YOUR GOD. 

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>> JUST A DON'T TAKE A KNEE, 

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THAT'S ALL, PROBABLY.

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>> TAKE A KNEE, GET PAID.

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>> HAVE A WONDERFUL WEEKEND.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING 

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US. 

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>> A GREAT SHOW TONIGHT.

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SEE YOU GUYS NEXT WEEK. 

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>> IT WAS.

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GOOD NIGHT.