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IN AND WEEK OUT AND LET'S SAY

 

HELLO TO THOSE ASSEMBLED AROUND

 

THE TABLE FOR THIS EDITION ARE

 

STARTING WITH THE MEDIA VETERAN

 

HERSELF, WENDY WIESE OF KTRS AND

 

BEYOND.

 

MR. BILL McCLELLAN FROM THE

 

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH.

 

ONE OF OUR FOUNDERS, HE'S RAY

 

HARTMANN.

 

AND FROM STLMAG.COM AND THE

 

ST. LOUIS AMERICAN AND BEYOND,

 

ALVIN REID, AND BEFORE WE BEGIN

 

THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT, LET'S

 

REMIND OR MAYBE INFORM OUR

 

VIEWERS THAT TOMORROW NIGHT,

 

BETWEEN 5:00 AND 7:00 AT THE

 

SCHNUCKS RICHMOND HEIGHTS, WE'LL

 

BE RINGING THE BELLS FOR THE

 

SALVATION ARMY AND WE HOPE AS

 

MANY OF YOU AS POSSIBLE CAN COME

 

BY.

 

WE REACH OUT TO YOU.

 

PLEASE COME OUT AND SAY HELLO

 

AND RAISE SOME MONEY FOR A

 

WONDERFUL CAUSE.

 

GIVE ALL THE CHILDREN A MERRY

 

CHRISTMAS.

 

ABSOLUTELY.

 

THAT'S TOMORROW, 5:00 TO 7:00,

 

SCHNUCKS, RICHMOND HEIGHTS.

 

ALVIN REID, RAN INTO YOU TODAY

 

ALONG WITH CONGRESSMAN LACY

 

CLAY.

 

THE TWO OF YOU IN DOWNTOWN

 

ST. LOUIS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS,

 

SO IT'S COULD IT'S DAYTONA TAL

 

THAT WE RAN -- COINCIDENTAL THAT

 

WE RAN INTO EACH, BUT

 

CONGRESSMAN CLAY WAS DOWNTOWN

 

BECAUSE THIS WAS THE DAY THAT

 

THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS

 

TRANSFERRED THE LAND TO THE

 

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR I GUESS

 

THE TRANSFER OF THE NATIONAL

 

GEOSPATIAL AGENCY FROM SOUTH

 

ST. LOUIS TO NORTH ST. LOUIS.

 

TODAY THE LAND THAT WILL BE THE

 

NEW SITE FOR THIS FACILITY IS

 

OFFICIALLY FEDERAL PROPERTY.

 

AND I THOUGHT I WAS INTERESTING

 

BECAUSE IT'S BEEN POINTED OUT

 

THAT THE CITY ACTUALLY HAS SPENT

 

AT LEAST $120 MILLION, WHICH IT

 

WILL RECAPTURE THROUGH THE

 

EARNINGS TAX, TO PREPARE THE

 

LAND FOR THIS SITE.

 

$120 MILLION.

 

MEANWHILE, APPLE ANNOUNCED THAT

 

IT'S MOVING TO AUSTIN, TEXAS,

 

GOING TO HAVE A BILLION-DOLLAR

 

FACILITY AND 5,000 JOBS AND

 

AUSTIN IS GIVING ZERO DOLLARS,

 

TAX INCENTIVES TO APPLE.

 

YOU THINK TIMES WE'RE GIVING

 

AWAIT CANDY STORE?

 

WELL, BEFORE WE GO INTO THAT,

 

I HAVE TO POINT OUT THAT

 

CONGRESSMAN CLAY WAS THERE TO

 

SEE CAROL DANIEL AND I WAS ON

 

DAVE LOVE'S SHOW AND CHARLIE PUT

 

US BOTH TO WORK FOR HIM A TRUE

 

STORY.

 

YOU WEREN'T FORCED.

 

NO, ALWAYS A PLEASURE.

 

BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH

 

IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS IN

 

ST. LOUIS AND WE WERE COMPETING

 

NOT WITH A NATIONAL ENTITY, BUT

 

OTHER SIGHTS AROUND THE

 

REGION -- SITES AROUND THE

 

REGION, SO JUST CLEARING THIS

 

LAND, ESPECIALLY LAND ON THE

 

NORTH SIDE OF ST. LOUIS,

 

$120 MILLION, TO ME THAT'S NOT

 

THE SAME AS GIVING AWAY THE

 

CANDY STORE.

 

THAT'S A SOUND INVESTMENT ON A

 

GOVERNMENTAL FACILITY WHICH IS

 

NOT GOING ANYWHERE, WHICH IS NOT

 

GOING TO CLOSE, AND WHICH IN

 

THESE DAYS AND TIMES I WOULD

 

IMAGINE IS ONLY GOING TO GET

 

BIGGER.

 

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS

 

ONE.

 

IT'S THE SAME STORY,

 

DIFFERENT DAY.

 

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT AUSTIN.

 

I MEAN --

 

EXACTLY.

 

AND AUSTIN, I BELIEVE, IS ONE

 

OF THE METROPOLITAN AREAS WAY

 

SMALLER THAN OURS THAT IF YOU

 

PROJECT OUT MAYBE A DECADE OR

 

TWO WILL BE AS LARGE AS

 

ST. LOUIS.

 

IT'S GROWING THAT QUICKLY.

 

AND THE FACT IS, WE ALL AGREE

 

THAT CORPORATE WELFARE IS NOT A

 

GREAT THING AND THAT UNTIL

 

THERE'S SOME NATIONAL --

 

THIS IS GOVERNMENT WELFARE.

 

WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I

 

DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.

 

THE TROUBLE IS, THIS IS A CITY

 

TRYING TO AVOID BANKRUPTCY.

 

IT'S TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING IT

 

CAN TO STAY ALIVE, AND IT'S JUST

 

NOT -- IT'S APPLES AND ORANGES

 

TO COMPARE IT TO AUSTIN.

 

BUT WE ARE A BIGGER CITY THAN

 

AUSTIN.

 

WE HAVE A BIGGER WORKFORCE.

 

WE JUST GIVE ANYBODY WHO ASKS

 

FOR IT, WHETHER IT'S THE ARCH

 

DOWNTOWN OR THE FEDERAL

 

GOVERNMENT -- I DON'T KNOW OTHER

 

CITIES THAT ARE SPENDING TAX

 

DOLLARS FOR THE FEDERAL

 

GOVERNMENT!

 

WELL, ON THIS AUSTIN THING,

 

CHARLIE, FIRST OF ALL, THE STATE

 

OF TEXAS HAS GIVEN A BUNCH OF

 

MONEY --

 

NO, NO, NOT A BUNCH, JUST

 

25 MILLION, WHICH IS A THIRD

 

THAT CLAYTON IS GIVING CENTENE.

 

I DON'T THINK PEOPLE IN

 

AUSTIN ARE THRILLED WITH THIS.

 

I HAVE A BROTHER-IN-LAW AND

 

SISTER-IN-LAW WHO LIVE IN AUSTIN

 

AND THEY'RE ALWAYS COMPLAINING

 

ABOUT HOW THE TECH PEOPLE HAVE

 

DRIVEN UP ALL THE PRICES AND

 

AUSTIN IS NO LONGER WEIRD.

 

ED WEIRDNESS IS DRIVEN DOWN TO

 

SAN MARCOS WHERE MY SON LIVES.

 

BUT AUSTIN IS CONGESTED AND A

 

LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT HAPPY

 

ABOUT THIS.

 

WE'D BE THRILLED, BUT THE RIP

 

GET RICHER.

 

THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.

 

AND DEIDRE O'BRIEN WHO MADE

 

THE ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY IN AUSTIN

 

SPOKE OF THE EXISTING

 

RELATIONSHIP THAT APPLE HAS IN

 

TEXAS AND IN THAT AREA, AND I

 

THINK -- I MEAN, WE CAN'T -- I

 

DON'T THINK WE CAN UNDERESTIMATE

 

THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT EITHER.

 

THAT WE'RE NOT KNOWN AS A TECH

 

HUB YET.

 

I MEAN, MAYBE WE WILL, MAYBE WE

 

WILL BE --

 

BUT I THINK IT'S PRETTY

 

STRONG, AT LEAST IN THE RANKINGS

 

BY NATIONAL PUBLICATIONS.

 

I JUST FEEL OUR LEADERS, WHO

 

HAVE GIVEN AWAY PROBABLY

 

$7 BILLION IN THE LAST 20 YEARS,

 

THEY GIVE IT TO ANYBODY AND

 

MEANWHILE, WHY LOOK AT OTHER

 

CITIES.

 

WHY DON'T WE LEARN FROM THEIR

 

EXAMPLE?

 

SAY NO.

 

IN APRIL 2017, THE VOTERS IN THE

 

CITY OF ST. LOUIS SAID NO TO MLS

 

AND MLS CAME BACK.

 

BUT WE'VE DARN NEAR LOST NGA

 

TO ST. CLAIR COUNTY AND I

 

THOUGHT WE WOULD AND THE FACT

 

THAT WE SOMEHOW MANAGED TO

 

RETAIN THE NGA WAS A BIG

 

VICTORY.

 

RIGHT, AND I THINK EVERYONE

 

ONE OF THOSE --

 

BUT PUT NGA --

 

I WAS GOING TO SAY, WE WERE

 

ALL AGAINST THAT VOTE.

 

F NGA IS A GOVERNMENT

 

FACILITY AND COMPARE THAT TO --

 

YOU CAN'T DO IT.

 

THAT'S MY DISTINCTION.

 

LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY.

 

IF WE COULD HAVE GOT NECESSARILY

 

HERE FOR $120 MILLION, WE'D BE

 

ALL OVER THAT.

 

IF WE CAN KEEP NGA HERE FOR

 

$120 MILLION, THAT'S A GOOD

 

DEAL.

 

PERHAPS YOU'RE RIGHT, BUT I

 

DON'T KNOW OF OTHER STATES THAT

 

SUBSIDIZE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

 

OR CITIES, AND WE'RE DOING IT

 

TWICE.

 

I THINK IF YOU'RE TALKING

 

ABOUT POLITICIANS, THEY BELIEVE

 

THAT MORE JOBS EQUAL

 

RE-ELECTION, AND I THINK ONE OF

 

THE THINGS THAT CLAIRE WAS

 

ROUNDLY CRITICIZED FOR WITHIN

 

THE PROGRESSIVE ARM OF YOUR

 

PARTY WAS NOT BEING AGGRESSIVE

 

ENOUGH.

 

YOU KNOW, WHEN IT CAME TO

 

BRINGING JOBS OR KEEPING JOBS --

 

CLAIRE?

 

YEAH, CLAIRE WAS.

 

I NEVER HEARD THAT.

 

TO HAVE JUST -- I DON'T CONFLATE

 

THE FACADE OF SPORTS FRANCHISES,

 

WHICH IS MOSTLY MONEY JUST

 

CHIPPING AROUND, BUT WHAT ALVIN

 

IS TALKING ABOUT IS PERMANENT,

 

SOLID, TAX-PRODUCING JOBS AND IF

 

WE HAD JUST, WERE WILLING AND

 

COURAGEOUS ENOUGH TO JUST SAY NO

 

TO NGA, WE WOULD HAVE JUST SAID

 

GOODBYE.

 

RAY, RAY, WE GAVE UP THE

 

EARNINGS TAX, RIGHT?

 

SO WHAT DO WE GET OUT OF IT IF

 

IT --

 

[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ]

 

IF ST. CLAIR COUNTY HAD GOTTEN

 

IT, WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE

 

FOR OUR AREA?

 

CHARLIE, HALF OF THE EARNINGS

 

TAX.

 

HALF OF THE EARNINGS TAX.

 

NOT ALL OF IT.

 

BUT NOW WE HAVE A BIG HOLE IN

 

SOUTH ST. LOUIS.

 

OKAY, I'M SURE THERE WILL BE

 

SOME PHONE CALLS ON THAT ON YOUR

 

TURN AS WE MOVE TO YOU, WENDY.

 

THIS IS AN INTERESTING STORY

 

BECAUSE OUR REPUBLICAN SECRETARY

 

OF STATE, JAY ASHCROFT, IS NOW

 

INVESTIGATING THE NEXT U.S.

 

SENATOR FROM MISSOURI, JOSH

 

HAWLEY.

 

THE KANSAS CITY STAR AND OTHERS

 

HAVE REPORTED THAT IN THE EARLY

 

DAYS OF HAWLEY'S TENURE AS

 

ATTORNEY GENERAL, HE HAD HIS

 

POLITICAL OPERATIVES RUNNING THE

 

SHOW INSIDE THE OFFICES IN JEFF

 

CITY, SO JAY ASHCROFT IS

 

INVESTIGATING IT, AND PICKED ONE

 

CHRISTINE HEISINGER WHO HAS

 

GIVEN FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO

 

HAWLEY'S MOST RECENT OPPONENT

 

SENATOR CLAIRE McCASKILL.

 

JUST FOR APPEARANCES SAKE, DON'T

 

YOU THINK THIS IS A POOR CHOICE?

 

I DO, AND I'LL GET BACK TO

 

THAT IN A MOMENT.

 

JOSH HAWLEY, IF THIS IS PROVEN

 

TO BE TRUE, I WILL BE STUNNED

 

BECAUSE JOSH HAWLEY TO ME IS THE

 

ANTI-GREITENS.

 

GREITENS, BOTH OF THEM HAVE

 

LOOKED FOR A SUCCESSFUL

 

POLITICAL CAREER, APPARENTLY

 

SINCE THEY WERE IN, YOU KNOW,

 

SHORT PANTS.

 

IT LOOKS LIKE A LIFELONG

 

AMBITION.

 

GREITENS WAS OBVIOUSLY KIND OF

 

COMPULSIVE AND HAD A WISH THAT.

 

TO ME, HAWLEY LOOKS LIKE THE

 

KIND OF GUY THAT HASN'T HAD A

 

SINGLE MISSTEP, SO I WILL BE

 

STUNNED IF THIS IS BORN OUT.

 

BUT IN TERMS OF CHRISTINE

 

HEISINGER, WE'VE ENTERED THE ERA

 

WHERE WE DON'T LIKE THE RESULTS

 

OF AN ELECTION, WE FIND A WAY TO

 

OVERTURN THE RESULTS OF THAT

 

ELECTION.

 

WE'RE SEEING IT IN WASHINGTON

 

AND I DON'T -- I MEAN, I AM

 

SORRY TO SEE THAT HAPPENING.

 

I THINK THAT IN LIGHT OF THAT

 

AND THE CURRENT CLIMATE, A

 

DEMOCRAT WHO HAS CONTRIBUTED

 

GENEROUSLY TO CLAIRE

 

McCASKILL -- SEE, I CAME BACK --

 

A DEMOCRAT WHO HAS CONTRIBUTED

 

GENEROUSLY TO CLAIRE McCASKILL'S

 

CAMPAIGN IS NOT SOMEBODY I WOULD

 

WANT INVESTIGATING SENATOR-ELECT

 

HAWLEY.

 

BUT IT WORKS FOR JAY

 

ASHCROFT.

 

FIRST OF ALL, WE ALWAYS TALK

 

ABOUT BIPARTISANSHIP AND TO

 

CORRECT YOU, BY THE WAY, WHAT'S

 

GOING ON IN WASHINGTON IS THE

 

CRIMINAL PROSECUTION OF

 

SOMEONE --

 

LET'S STAY HERE.

 

LET'S NOT LET THAT PASS.

 

BUT THE POINT IS THIS IS JAY

 

ASHCRO

 

ASHCROFT, TO HIS CREDIT -- AND

 

I'M NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF

 

PRAISING ASHCROFT OVER THE

 

YEARS.

 

TO HIS CREDIT AND THE

 

ASTONISHMENT OF REPUBLICAN

 

FRIENDS OF MINE, IS HAVING THE

 

INDEPENDENCE AND --

 

IT'S NOT ASHCROFT.

 

IT'S HEISINGER WHO WORKS FOR

 

HIM.

 

SHE'S SUPPOSED TO LEAVE THE

 

PLANET?

 

THE OTHER THING HE'S DOING VERY

 

POSITIVE IS HE BROUGHT IN NICOLE

 

GALLAWAY WITH HER SUBPOENA

 

POWER, WHICH WOULD DISPROVE ANY

 

CONSPIRACY THEORY.

 

SHE'S A STATE OFFICIAL,

 

BUT --

 

THIS LOOKS LIKE A REAL

 

INVESTIGATION.

 

I THINK, FIRST OF ALL, I

 

DON'T SEE HAWLEY AS THE OPPOSITE

 

OF GREITENS.

 

I SEE HAWLEY AS --

 

IN THE SAME VEIN.

 

GREITENS WITHOUT A MILITARY

 

RESUME.

 

I THINK THAT YOU'RE WRONG, RAY,

 

ON THE IDEA THAT THERE'S NOTHING

 

WONG WITH SOMEBODY WHO GIVES TO

 

DEMOCRATS INVESTIGATING A

 

REPUBLICAN.

 

IF IT WERE VICE VERSA, WE'D BE

 

UPSET.

 

[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ]

 

I THOUGHT IT WAS COMPLETELY

 

BIZARRE THAT ASHCROFT ANNOUNCED

 

HE WAS GOING TO GET THE AUDITOR

 

INVOLVED BECAUSE SHE HAS

 

SUBPOENA POWERS.

 

IF I'M A REPUBLICAN, I SAY WE

 

JUST LOST OUR GOVERNOR AND NOW

 

YOU'RE GOING TO GET A DEMOCRAT

 

START SUBPOENAING ON OUR

 

SENATORS?

 

WHY IS THAT A BAD THING?

 

I WOULD RATHER SEE SOMEBODY

 

INVESTIGATING WHO HADN'T GIVE

 

HAVEN'T MONEY TO EITHER OF THEM.

 

WHAT DIFFERENCE --

 

IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

 

THE APPEARANCE OF

 

IMPROPRIETY.

 

HOW MANY MEMBERS OF THE BAR ARE

 

THERE IN MISSOURI?

 

DID YOU HAVE TO FIND ONE TO

 

INVESTIGATE WHO GAVE $24,000 TO

 

DEMOCRATS, INCLUDING CLAIRE

 

McCASKILL?

 

ARE YOU SAYING THAT ANYONE

 

WHO GAVE MONEY TO A CANDIDATE

 

SHOULD BE DISQUALIFIED FOR BEING

 

AN ATTORNEY --

 

NO, WHAT HE'S SAYING OR I'M

 

SAYING --

 

-- FOR THE GOVERNMENT?

 

IT'S THE APPEARANCE.

 

LET ALVIN TALK A MINUTE.

 

IN ALL HONESTY, IF WE FLIPPED

 

THE PARTY HERE, YOU WOULDN'T

 

HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?

 

NOT IF IT'S A DEMOCRAT --

 

EXCUSE ME A DEMOCRAT HIRED A

 

REPUBLICAN TO INVESTIGATE

 

ANOTHER DEMOCRAT?

 

NO, I -- THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE

 

SHOULD WANT IS TO NOT HAVE PARTY

 

LINES AND SEE IT AS SOME SCANDAL

 

THAT SHE GAVE MONEY --

 

IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN

 

INVESTIGATION SUCCEED, YOU DON'T

 

WANT THE INVESTIGATOR TO BE A

 

KNOWN ENEMY, GIVING MONEY TO THE

 

OPPONENT OF THE GUY YOU'RE

 

INVESTIGATING.

 

BUT THE REPUBLICANS --

 

[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ]

 

WE KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW,

 

TRYING TO OVERTURN ELECTIONS.

 

I THINK ONE THING I WOULD HAVE

 

DONE IF I WAS ASHCROFT, SAY

 

THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN

 

INVESTIGATION INTO THIS, BUT BAY

 

THE WAY, HE'S STILL -- BY THE

 

WAY, HE'S STILL GOING TO BE THE

 

SENATOR.

 

THE WORST THING THAT HAPPENS TO

 

ME IS HE GETS A FINE.

 

ANYBODY WHO'S LICKING THEIR

 

CHOPS, THAT'S OVER.

 

I'M NOT GOING TO APPOINT A

 

DEMOCRAT TO INVESTIGATE HIM, BUT

 

NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN

 

EXCEPT HIM GETTING SWORN IN IN

 

JANUARY.

 

CHARLIE, THE REAL INTRIGUE,

 

AND I KNOW IT'S MORE FOR

 

POLITICAL JUNKIES IS THE WHOLE

 

DYNAMIC BETWEEN ASHCROFT AND

 

ERIC SCHMIDT AND WHAT WAS

 

BELIEVED TO BE A RIVALRY FOR THE

 

ATTORNEY GENERAL SPOT IF HAWLEY

 

WAS TO WIN THE ELECTION.

 

THERE'S A LOT OF POLITICAL

 

INTRIGUE AND THE PEOPLE -- I'M

 

JUST SHOCKED THAT EVERYBODY IS

 

LIKE, WE TALK ABOUT

 

BIPARTISANSHIP AND IT BOTHERS

 

YOU THAT A REPUBLICAN PICKS

 

SOMEBODY WHO GAVE TO A DEMOCRAT

 

TO INVESTIGATE SOMEBODY.

 

I DON'T THINK THAT'S WRONG AT

 

ALL.

 

IF SOMEBODY WAS --

 

IF IT WAS IN REVERSE, IT

 

WOULD BE FINE.

 

OH, COME ON, RAY.

 

IT WOULD.

 

IF SOMEBODY WHO GAVE MONEY TO

 

THE REPUBLICANS WERE

 

INVESTIGATING OUR NEWLY ELECTED

 

DEMOCRATIC SENATOR, YOU'D SAY

 

THAT'S FINE.

 

I WOULD.

 

LET'S MOVE ON, BILL.

 

I WANT TO ASK YOU, SPEAKING OF

 

GETTING HOT UNDER THE COLLAR, I

 

WAS THIS WEEK WHEN I SAW ONE OF

 

YOUR COLLEAGUES IN A PAGE A-2

 

STORY TAKE A LOOK AT A LADUE

 

KID, A STUDENT AT LADUE HIGH

 

SCHOOL, WHO WAS FLASHING THE

 

OKAY SIGN.

 

I THINK IT WAS PART OF A RALLY

 

FOR THE FOOTBALL TEAM.

 

AS WE KNOW, THE LADUE RAMS

 

PLAYED IN THE STATE

 

CHAMPIONSHIP.

 

AND THE RAMS WON.

 

THE RAMS WON, YEAH.

 

IT WAS THE RAMS AGAINST THE

 

RAMS.

 

HERE'S THE DEAL.

 

THE OKAY SIGN AS UBIQUITOUS

 

SIGN, BUT THE STORY SEEMED TO

 

INDICATE THAT IT WAS ASSOCIATED

 

WITH WHITE NATIONALISM, EVEN

 

THOUGH WE WEREN'T THROUGH THIS

 

DURING THE KAVANAUGH HEARINGS

 

WHEN THERE WAS AN ATTORNEY

 

BEHIND JUDGE KAVANAUGH WHO HAD

 

SOMETHING SIMILAR, THE OKAY

 

SIGN, AND THE ANTIDEFAMATION

 

LEAGUE SAID NO, UNLESS YOU SEE

 

OTHER OVERT SIGNS OF WHITE

 

NATIONALISM, THAT OKAY SIGN,

 

WHICH HAS BEEN USED BY BILL

 

CLINTON AND HILLARY CLINTON AND

 

BARACK OBAMA, IS NOT A SIGN OF

 

WHITE NATIONALISM.

 

DON'T YOU THINK THIS IS A SMEAR

 

OF THE LADUE HIGH SCHOOL

 

STUDENT?

 

NO, I DON'T, AND I SHOULD SAY

 

ABOUT THESE SIGNS, THE ONLY --

 

THE VICTORY SIGN, PEACE SIGN IS

 

ALL -- THE ONLY ONE I GO, BUT I

 

HAVE HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, WHITE

 

NATIONALISTS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO

 

USURP THE OKAY SIGN AND I KNEW

 

NOTHING ABOUT IT BEFOREHAND, BUT

 

WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PAPER WAS

 

SOMEBODY CALLED THE REPORTER,

 

DAVID HUNT, AND SAID THERE'S A

 

KID ON THE LADUE WEBSITE

 

FLASHING THE -- WHAT WHITE

 

NATIONALISTS ARE USING AS A

 

SIGN, AND SO HUNDRED HUNT SAID

 

OKAY AND HE LOOKED UNDER THE

 

WEBSITE AND IT WAS GONE.

 

SO HE CALLED AND THE LADUE

 

PEOPLE SAID WE TOOK THAT DOWN

 

BECAUSE WE HEARD FROM SOMEBODY

 

ELSE IN THE MEDIA THAT THIS IS A

 

WHITE POWER SIGN.

 

SO IT WASN'T LIKE THE PAPER

 

GEMMED THIS UP AND NOW THE WAY

 

IS SHOULD IT HAVE BEEN RUN.

 

CERTAINLY YOU'RE NOT IDENTIFYING

 

THE LADUE KID AND IN FACT, HE

 

WAS NOT IDENTIFIED IN THE

 

PICTURE.

 

I'M TOLD HE WASN'T SMILING LIKE,

 

HEY, EVERYTHING IS OKAY.

 

HE WAS KIND OF SOMBER AND

 

FLASHING THAT SIGN.

 

I HAD NEVER HEAR THAT THE OKAY

 

SIGN WAS A WHITE SYMBOLISM SIGN,

 

BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE KAVANAUGH

 

HEARING, THERE'S THAT PERSON

 

LIKE THIS AND MAYBE THEY'RE

 

TROLLING LIBERALS, I DON'T KNOW

 

WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

 

BUT SOMETHING IS GOING ON.

 

WITH THE TIKI TORCHES TO THOSE

 

KIDS IN WISCONSIN WITH THE

 

SIGHEIL.

 

PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN THE MOVIE

 

CABARET AND THINK SOMETHING IS

 

GOING ON, MAYBE IT SHOULD BE

 

REPORTED, I DON'T KNOW.

 

I THINK ON THE HEELS OF THE

 

COMPLAINT IN 2016 ON THE SCHOOL

 

BUS, YOU KNOW, THE KID WHO SAID

 

THAT SHE WAS BEING VICTIMIZED BY

 

RACIST -- RACIAL, RACIST

 

COMMENTS, AND I THINK THAT --

 

YOU KNOW, THAT'S RECENT HISTORY.

 

I'M SURE THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF

 

SENSITIVITY HERE.

 

THERE'S A BACK STORY TO THIS

 

AND I DON'T KNOW WHO CALLED THE

 

POST-DISPATCH.

 

HOWEVER, JUST A MONTH AGO,

 

MICBS'S FOOTBALL PLAYERS WERE

 

ACCUSED BY PARKWAY NORTH OF

 

UNLEASHING A LOT OF N-BOMBS TO

 

THEM DURING A FOOTBALL GAME.

 

IT WAS A REALLY BAD SCENE OVER

 

THERE.

 

THIS COMES IN THE WAKE OF THAT.

 

WHO IS LADUE PLAYING BUT MIBCS.

 

PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES WERE

 

COMPLAINING ON THAT ONE.

 

I KNOW THAT, BUT I'M

 

SAYING --

 

WHEN XENA BASH, I THINK

 

THAT'S HER NAME, THE ATTORNEY

 

WHO DID THIS DURING THE

 

KAVANAUGH HEARINGS, IT WAS

 

INVESTIGATED WIDELY BY THE

 

WASHINGTON POST AND OTHERS AND

 

THEY FOUND OUT THAT IT IS TRUE,

 

THERE WERE A GROUP OF TROLLS WHO

 

PERSONALLY TRIED ERRONEOUSLY TO

 

FAKE OUT THE LIBERAL MEDIA BY

 

FLASHING OKAY SIGNS AND

 

ASSOCIATING IT WITH WHITE

 

NATIONALISM WHICH TURNED OUT TO

 

BE A HOAX.

 

IT WHAT AS JOKE.

 

NOW -- IT WAS A JOKE.

 

NOW, THERE'S SOME WHITE

 

NATIONALISTS WHO ARE TOO DUMB TO

 

REALIZE IT WAS A HOAX AND THEY

 

MIGHTITE, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR

 

CASE AS IN SO MANY OTHERS, IT

 

COULD ALSO JUST BE OKAY, WHICH A

 

UBIQUITOUS SYMBOL.

 

NOBODY IS SAYING THEY KNOW

 

WHAT WAS IN THE MIND THEREFORE

 

STUDENT FROM LADUE AND HIS PURR

 

WAS BLACKED OUT, BUT IF -- HIS

 

PICTURE WAS BLACKED OUT, BUT IF

 

YOU THINK THAT SOMETHING IS

 

GOING ON IN THE COUNTRY,

 

SOMETHING A LITTLE WEIRD --

 

I REALIZE THAT THIS IS OFF

 

THE BEATEN PATH OF DONNYBROOK,

 

BUT BEYONCE AND JAY Z HAVE BEEN

 

ACCUSED REPEATEDLY OF BEING

 

MEMBERS OF THE OF THE

 

ILLUMINATI, SO AFTER THE WHILE,

 

THEY STARTED MAKING THE SIGN

 

EVERY TIME A PHOTOGRAPHER TOOK

 

THEIR PICTURE JUST TO KIND OF,

 

YOU KNOW, BAIT THE PRESS --

 

THAT DID HAPPEN.

 

RIGHT.

 

I'M A LIBERAL -- I'M SORRY.

 

GO AHEAD.

 

GO AHEAD.

 

I'M A LIBERAL WHO'S TIRED OF

 

THESE ISSUES AND TIRED OF THE

 

JUST -- YOU KNOW, AS A CIVIL

 

LIBERTARIAN, I'M JUST TIRED OF

 

THESE ISSUES, FRANKLY, BUT IF

 

YOU WORK FOR A NEWSPAPER AND

 

YOU'RE A REPORTER AND YOU GET A

 

LEAD AND THEN YOU FIND SOMETHING

 

THAT WAS TAKEN DOWN, IT'S START

 

OF NOT -- IT'S NOT THE SORT OF

 

THING YOU JUST DROP.

 

BUT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH --

 

THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

 

I DO DISAGREE WITH BILL.

 

I THINK THE KID CAN BE

 

IDENTIFIED EVEN THOUGH HIS FACE

 

WAS BLOCKED OUT, LIKE BY HIS

 

FRIENDS WHERE I'M SURE IN THE

 

LADUE AREA, HE IS LIKE, OKAY, WE

 

KNOW WHO THIS IS AND HE'S BEEN

 

ASSOCIATED WITH WHITE

 

NATIONALISM, EVEN THOUGH HE'S

 

GIVING A UBIQUITOUS SIGN AND I

 

THINK THE MEDIA IN GENERAL

 

SHOULD RETHINK ITS INVESTIGATION

 

OF KIDS AT SCHOOL.

 

THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE

 

NEWSPAPERS WERE NOT CONCENTRATED

 

ON THESE STORIES, BY AND LARGE,

 

AND NOW I THINK THAT KIDS SHOULD

 

HAVE A CERTAIN PROTECTION WHEN

 

THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING WITHIN

 

THE CONFINES OF A SCHOOL.

 

THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT

 

AND YOU MIGHT RIGHT, BUT WHAT

 

GOOD THAT RECENT CASE IN

 

WISCONSIN.

 

DID YOU SEE THAT PICTURE ALL THE

 

KIDS ARE GIVING THE SIG HEIL

 

BEFORE THE PROM?

 

IT NOT A LOT OF PUBLICITY AND

 

THOSE KIDS' FACES WERE CLEARLY

 

IDENTIFIED AND YOU LOOK AT IT

 

AND YOU GO, GEE, THIS IS REALLY

 

STRANGE.

 

I WILL AGREE WITH YOU.

 

I THOUGHT THE KID WASN'T

 

IDENTIFIABLE.

 

IF HE WASN'T, THAT'S A DIFFERENT

 

STORY.

 

I DON'T THINK HE SHOULD HAVE

 

BEEN.

 

WELL, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE --

 

YOU'RE SAYING IF HE WAS

 

IDENTIFIABLE -- THERE'S NO WAY

 

HE SHOULD BE.

 

IT COULD BE THOSE CLOSEST TO

 

YOU THAT KNOW YOU WERE THE

 

PERSON THEY'RE TALKING ABOUTS IT

 

DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE GREATER

 

GOOD.

 

I THINK THE STORY COVER

 

SERVED ITS READERS WELL BY

 

NOTING THAT THE ANTI-DEFAMATION

 

LEAGUE OF ALL ORGANIZATIONS --

 

I THOUGHT IT DID.

 

NO, IT DID.

 

IT LOOKED TO THE SOUTHERN

 

POVERTY LAW CENTER THAT SAID IT

 

WAS A HOAX, BUT THE ADL SAID

 

THIS IS NOT A SIGN OF WHITE

 

NATIONALISM.

 

ANYWAY, OKAY, LET'S GO ON TO

 

YOU, RAY.

 

I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT A ST.

 

CHARLES LAWMAKER WHO WANTS TO

 

END THE EARNINGS TAX IN THE CITY

 

OF ST. LOUIS.

 

WHAT'S OLD IS NEW AGAIN.

 

ACTUALLY, THE VOTERS IN THE CITY

 

OF ST. LOUIS DO VOTE ON THE

 

EARNINGS TAX EVERY FIVE YEARS BY

 

STATE LAW.

 

EXACTLY.

 

OKAY.

 

I DON'T THINK THE EARNINGS TAX

 

IS ACTUALLY ATTRACTING PEOPLE.

 

WHEN I GOT HERE IN 1988, WE HAD,

 

WHAT, 400,000 PEOPLE IN THE CITY

 

OF ST. LOUIS AND NOW WE'RE DOWN

 

TO 300,000.

 

WHATEVER IT'S DOING, NOT

 

ATTRACTING PEOPLE AND JOBS, BUT

 

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

 

WHAT I THINK IS THAT THE

 

VOTERS OF THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS

 

AND THE CITY OF KANSAS CITY

 

VOTED ON THIS TOPIC AND IT'S A

 

LOT MORE IMPORTANT WHAT THEY

 

THINK THAN WHAT ANY OF US THINK,

 

AND THAT GOES FOR WHETHER WE

 

LIVE IN THE CITY OR NOT.

 

THEY VOTED BY 80% MARGINS IN

 

CITY, ROUGHLY IN ST. LOUIS AND

 

KANSAS CITY, AND LAID THIS ISSUE

 

TO REST.

 

IT WAS BROUGHT UPON US, A

 

HORRIBLE THING AND BROUGHT POP

 

US BY REX SINQUEFIELD WHO

 

PERHAPS IS GOING TO FIND A WAY

 

TO SUPPORT THIS FINE STATE

 

SENATOR IN ST. CHARLES.

 

THE BIGGER -- THIS IS PART OF A

 

BIGGER TREND THAT CONCERNS ME

 

AND IN 2020, THERE'S GOING TO BE

 

A MOVEMENT AFOOT FOR A STATEWIDE

 

VOTE ON A CITY-COUNTY MERGER OF

 

SOME SORT TO FORCE A MERGER OR

 

UNI-GOV OR SOMETHING ON THE CITY

 

AND COUNTY USING THE RURAL VOTE

 

AGAINST THE CITY AND COUNTY'S

 

INTEREST.

 

THE LARGER ISSUE HERE IS

 

SELF-DETERMINATION.

 

THE WORST THING ABOUT WHAT REX

 

SINQUEFIELD DID TO US WITH THE

 

CITY EARNINGS TAX IS CITIES LIKE

 

COLUMBIA, SPRINGFIELD, CAPE

 

GIRARDEAU, HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO

 

AN EARNINGS TAX NOW BECAUSE OF

 

THE REST OF THE STATE.

 

THAT'S CRAZY.

 

ONE WOULD THINK THAT A

 

REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE, WHEN THE

 

REPUBLICANS TRADITIONALLY WERE

 

ALL ABOUT LOCAL AUTONOMY, WOULD

 

BE LOATHE TO COME UP WITH AN

 

IDEA OF THE STATE WILL TELL

 

LOCALS WHAT TO DO.

 

EXACTLY.

 

I MEAN, LIKE YOU SAY, RAY, IF

 

ST. LOUIS AND KANSAS CITY SAY WE

 

NEED AN EARNINGS TAX, AND WE

 

WANT ONE, THAT'S ENOUGH.

 

BACKING UP WHAT RAY SAID, ON

 

THE PROGRAM I WAS ON TODAY,

 

RODNEY BOYD WAS ON WITH ME

 

TODAY, KIND OF LIKE POLITICAL

 

INSIDE YES, MODERATE

 

REPUBLICAN -- NIDEER,

 

MODERATE -- INSIDER, MODERATE

 

REPUBLICAN, HE HINTED THAT THE

 

STORY GOING INTO 19 AND HEADING

 

INTO 2020 IS GOING TO BE EXACTLY

 

LIKE YOU SAID.

 

THERE IS GOING TO BE A MOVE TO

 

FORCE A VOTE ON THE COUNTY AND

 

THE CITY.

 

AND I THINK DEMOCRATS AND

 

REPUBLICANS WILL LIKE IT, OR AT

 

LEAST THE REX SINQUEFIELD CROWD

 

LIKES THAT BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE

 

IN YOU CHANGE THE CHARTER FOR

 

THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS, WHICH

 

WOULD CHANGE IF WE HAD THE

 

MERGER, THE EARNINGS TAX WILL BE

 

NULL.

 

BUT THAT'S --

 

BUT AGAIN, WE'RE --

 

PEOPLE ARE UNDERESTIMATING

 

WHAT PEOPLE IN MY NECK OF THE

 

WOODS THINK OF THIS.

 

BUT AGAIN, AREN'T WE

 

OVERTURNING OR IGNORING THE WILL

 

OF THE PEOPLE --

 

ABSOLUTELY.

 

-- AND THIS CONTINUES TO

 

HAPPEN REPEATLY.

 

I THINK THE REASON IS THERE

 

ARE LAWMAKERS LIKE THIS GUY IN

 

ST. CHARLES WHO THINK THAT THE

 

EARNINGS TAX THE HURTING THE

 

CITY AND THE CITY IS INCREDIBLY

 

IMPORTANT FOR THE REGION, AND WE

 

WERE TALKING ABOUT AUSTIN.

 

THE STATE HAS NO --

 

BUT THIS IS --

 

-- INCOME TAX AND NO EARNINGS

 

TAX AND THERE'S SOMETHING TO

 

THAT.

 

PEOPLE MOVE OUT OF THE CITY

 

BECAUSE OF THAT EARNINGS TAX.

 

BUT HOPEFULLY THE COUNTRY --

 

BUT PEOPLE TELL ME ALMOST

 

DAILY THAT THEY COULD CARE LESS

 

ABOUT THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS, SO

 

WHY ALL OF AN ALL OF A SUDDEN --

 

YOU REALLY BELIEVE PEOPLE

 

MOVE OUT OF CITY OF ST. LOUIS

 

SOLELY BECAUSE THE EARNINGS TAX.

 

I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WHO DID.

 

TOM JACOBSON, HE WASSED HET OF

 

U.S. BANK -- HE THE HEAD OF U.S.

 

BANK AT THE TIME, HE MOVED.

 

LET'S NOT SAY WE'RE ALL LIKE

 

THE BANK PRESIDENTS.

 

ONE OF THE OLDEST PRINCIPLES

 

OF THE COUNTRY IS TO BE

 

CONCERNED ABOUT TAXATION WITHOUT

 

REPRESENTATION AND IT WORKS IN

 

REVERSE TOO.

 

BUT A WORKER IN THE CITY IS

 

TAXED.

 

WELL, AND THE STATE --

 

THEY CAN'T VOTE ON IT.

 

THE POINT OF THAT, WHICH HAS

 

PERFECT LOGIC TO IT -- AND I

 

WISH WE COULD GET AWAY WITH THIS

 

WE IN THE CITY AND THEY IN ST.

 

CHARLES.

 

WE TALK ABOUT ST. CLAIR COUNTY.

 

IT'S ONE REGION.

 

BUT THE CITY HAS A RIGHT TO --

 

LET ME FOCUS ON -- WE HAVE

 

LESS THAN TWO MINUTES TO GO.

 

THANKS.

 

I KNOW THERE ARE GOING TO BE A

 

LOT OF CALLS ON THIS AND OTHER

 

ISSUES.

 

ALVIN, THE RIVERFRONT TIMES HAD

 

A FRONT PAGE STORY SAYING THERE

 

ARE RESTAURANTS IN ELLISVILLE

 

AND ELSEWHERE THAT CAN'T FIND

 

WORKERS AND THEY SAY IT'S

 

PROBABLY A TRANSPORTATION

 

PROBLEM GETTING PEOPLE FROM THE

 

CITY OUT THERE.

 

DO YOU THINK THAT'S THE REAL

 

REASON?

 

THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THE

 

PROBLEM.

 

YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY IF WE HAD A

 

REAL MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM, THAT

 

WOULD HELP, BUT QUITE FRANKLY,

 

AT NO TIME WHEN I WAS GROWING

 

UP, I'M 58 NOW, A GENERATION

 

BEHIND ME OR WHATEVER, AT NO

 

TIME WERE THERE A NEED FOR

 

PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY TO

 

COME OUT AND WORK AT RESTAURANTS

 

IN THE COUNTY.

 

YOUNGER PEOPLE HUSTLED, GOT A

 

JOB, GOT BUSY.

 

THAT'S MISSING RIGHT NOW.

 

AND THAT IDEA OF WORKING IN A

 

RESTAURANT AND I'M LIKE 17, 18

 

YEARS OLD, IT'S NOT THERE.

 

I DON'T KNOW IF IT GOES BACK TO

 

THAT WORK ETHIC OR THIS

 

MILLENNIALS OR WHATEVER, BUT

 

QUITE FRANKLY, THE PEOPLE ARE

 

THERE THAT CAN FILL THE JOBS AND

 

GET PAID.

 

THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO DO IT.

 

ONE OF THE REASONS IS YOU

 

HAVE TO DO COMMUNITY SERVICE FOR

 

YOUR COLLEGE RESUME OR I DON'T

 

KNOW WHAT.

 

HOW DOES THAT SONG GO?

 

WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH KIDS

 

TODAY?

 

WHY CAN'T THEY BE LIKE WE WERE

 

YESTERDAY.

 

I FOUND LIKE MY GRANDFATHER.

 

THERE WAS A RESTAURATEUR

 

WHO'S CLOSING A RESTAURANT,

 

TALKING TO ST. LOUIS MAGAZINE,

 

ABOUT THIS VERY POINT AND THAT

 

PERSON PROBABLY HAS A PRETTY

 

GOOD IDEA, SAYING -- REGARDLESS

 

OF WHETHER IT AFFECTED THEIR

 

RESTAURANT, THAT IDEA THAT THEY

 

CAN'T FIND PEOPLE IN THEIR AREA

 

TO WORK WAS PRETTY -- SHE OUGHT

 

ON KNOW.

 

YEAH, CLOSING FOR THAT

 

REASON.

 

DON'T FORGET, EVERYBODY,

 

TOMORROW NIGHT WE'RE AT THE

 

SCHNUCKS IN RICHMOND HEIGHTS

 

BETWEEN 5:00 AND 7:00 RINGING

 

BELLS FOR THE SALVATION ARMY AND

 

WE WELCOME YOU TO JOIN US.

 

YOU CAN COMMENT ON THE PROGRAM,

 

SEND A LETTER TO KETC, 3655

 

OLIVE STREET, ST. LOUIS,

 

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HOW ABOUT THE EMAILS,

 

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WE WELCOME THOSE BECAUSE RAY AND

 

WENDY WILL BE READING THOSE AND

 

TAKING YOUR PHONE CALLS IN JUST

 

A MOMENT ON YOUR TURN.

 

DON'T GO AWAY, AND SEE YOU

 

TOMORROW NIGHT AT THE SCHNUCKS,

 

RICHMOND HEIGHTS.

 

Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE

 

POSSIBLE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE

 

NINE NETWORK.

 

*

 

WELCOME BACK TO DONNYBROOK

 

YOUR TURN.

 

IT IS YOUR TURN.

 

I AM SITTING HERE WITH OUR

 

FOUNDER AND THE STAR OF OUR

 

PROGRAM, MR. RAY HARTMANN.

 

I WILL BE HIS COPILOT AND WE'LL

 

BE FLYING AT A ALTITUDE OF

 

35,000 FEET.

 

WHO'S UP FIRST?

 

ELISE FROM HEALTH SPRINGS.

 

THANKS FOR CALLING AND WELCOME

 

TO YOUR TURN.

 

Caller: HI.

 

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING

 

MY CALL.

 

THE REASON I'M CALLING IS

 

BECAUSE I HAVE TO AGREE WITH

 

SOMETHING THAT YOU SAID, WENDY,

 

ON THE SHOW MULTIPLE TIMES.

 

YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TAXES

 

AND THE ST. LOUIS CITY AND

 

KANSAS CITY, AND WHY ARE WE

 

TRYING TO OVERTURN THE WILL OF

 

THE PEOPLE.

 

AND I AGREE WITH YOU, AND NOT

 

ONLY ARE THEY TRYING TO DO THAT,

 

BUT THERE ARE TWO OTHER ISSUES

 

THAT THE VOTERS RECENTLY VOTED

 

ON, WHICH IS RIGHT TO WORK AND

 

THEN I BELIEVE IT WAS PROP ONE,

 

WHICH WAS TRANSPARENCY --

 

CLEAN MISSOURI, CLEAN

 

MISSOURI, RIGHT.

 

Caller: RIGHT.

 

AND THEY'RE TRYING TO OVERTURN

 

THAT NOW, TOO, AND I DON'T

 

UNDERSTAND WHY LAWMAKERS JUST

 

CAN'T TAKE WHAT THE PEOPLE OF

 

THE STATE HAVE VOTED ON AND

 

ACCEPT THAT.

 

IT'S VERY DISHEARTENING AND IT

 

MAKES -- WELL, I VOTE ALL THE

 

TIME AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO

 

SO, BUT I'M SURE THAT IT MAKES A

 

LOT OF OTHER VOTERS VERY

 

FRUSTRATED AND FEEL LIKE WHY

 

VOTE IF THE LAWMAKERS AREN'T

 

GOING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION

 

WHAT WE IN FACT VOTE FOR.

 

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

 

ELISE, HEAR HEAR.

 

THEY DO IT BECAUSE THEY CAN AND

 

IT REALLY IS AMAZING.

 

I MEAN, IN MISSOURI, THE NUMBER

 

OF TIMES THAT THAT'S HAPPENED.

 

BUT DON'T YOU THINK IT'S A

 

RECENT -- IT'S A FAIRLY RECENT

 

PHENOMENON THAT WE'RE SEEING AND

 

IT'S --

 

YOU'RE RIGHT.

 

IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF OMINOUS

 

IN MY OPINION, BUT THAUN, ELISE.

 

AND THE IDEA THAT POLITICIANS

 

ARE GOING TO ROLL OVER AND CLEAN

 

UP LOBBYING, GOOD LUCK WITH

 

THAT.

 

LET'S GO TO RON FROM SOULARD.

 

YOU'RE ON DONNYBROOK, YOUR TURN.

 

Caller: THANK YOU FOR TAKING

 

MY CALL AND THE LADY, I WAS

 

GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING.

 

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I WANT

 

TO SAY IS ABOUT EARNINGS TAX.

 

THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS WILL BE

 

BANKRUPT WITHOUT THE CITY

 

EARNINGS TAX.

 

YOU WANT THE CITY TO FIGHT

 

CRIME, YOU WANT IT TO BUILD A

 

STADIUM THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE

 

VOTED AGAINST, YOU WANT THEM TO

 

DO A LOT OF THINGS IN THE CITY,

 

BUT WE CAN'T TAX PEOPLE WHO USE

 

THE SERVICES, COMING INTO THE

 

CITY, THROW THEIR TRASH DOWN,

 

DOUBLE PARK.

 

WE CHARGING EVERYBODY FOR LIVING

 

IN THE CITY AND YOU JUST PAY

 

YOUR SHARE FOR THE CITY TO BE A

 

BETTER PLACE TO LIVE, IF YOU

 

WANT TO COME TO A BETTER PLACE.

 

THANK YOU, RON.

 

WELL STATED AND WE HEAR FROM

 

PEOPLE, OH, WE'RE NOT LIVING IN

 

THE CITY.

 

WE'RE GOING TO YOU FROM THE CITY

 

OF ST. LOUIS, BEAUTIFUL CHANNEL

 

9 AND GREAT --

 

GRAND CENTER, YEAH.

 

GRAND CENTER AREA, AND IT'S

 

REALLY -- I MEAN, I HAPPEN TO BE

 

VERY STRONGLY THINK THAT THERE'S

 

A PERFECT LOGIC TO THE CITY

 

EARNINGS TAX AS SOMEONE WHO'S

 

PAID IT AND PAYS IT, AND THAT IS

 

THAT PEOPLE WHO COME FOR THE DAY

 

AND USE THE POLICE AND THE FIRE

 

AND THE STREETS AND THE OTHER

 

SERVICES, YOU KNOW, IT'S THEIR

 

WAY OF CONTRIBUTING AND MANY,

 

MANY PEOPLE COME TO DOWNTOWN.

 

NOT AS MANY AS USED TO, BUT --

 

SO THERE'S SOME LOGIC TO IT.

 

BUT THE BIGGER POINT IS THAT THE

 

FOLKS VOTED 80% TO KEEP IT.

 

THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT.

 

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT U.S.

 

BANK THINKS.

 

I MEAN --

 

NO.

 

AND RON, WE THANK YOU BECAUSE

 

YOU CERTAINLY ARE SPEAKING FOR A

 

LOT OF PEOPLE.

 

LET'S GO TO KATHY FROM

 

ST. LOUIS COUNTY.

 

HELLO, KATHY.

 

Caller: OH HI, WENDY, AND HI,

 

RAY.

 

NICE TALKING TO YOU.

 

ON THE JOSH HAWLEY

 

INVESTIGATION, I DON'T THINK A

 

MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN THE STATE

 

OF MISSOURI REALIZE HE LOST

 

MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR PEOPLE

 

IN THIS STATE BECAUSE HE

 

COULDN'T RUN THAT OFFICE.

 

THEY HAD TO SUB OUT BECAUSE HE

 

COULDN'T LITIGATE THE CASES.

 

THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN RECTIFIED

 

A VERY LONG TIME AGO BECAUSE I

 

DON'T THINK ANY OF US, IF WE GO

 

INTO A JOB AND WE'RE NOT RUNNING

 

IT PROPERLY FOR THE FIRST COUPLE

 

WEEKS, THAT WE'RE GOING TO STAY

 

THERE.

 

AND I WONDER, ARE THEY GOING TO

 

BE ABLE TO GET ALL OF THE

 

INFORMATION FROM THAT OFFICE?

 

AND IS THE SENATE GOING TO SIT

 

HIM IF HE'S UNDER INVESTIGATION?

 

THAT'S AN INTERESTING

 

QUESTION.

 

THE ANSWER, I THINK, IS YES TO

 

THAT BECAUSE OF WHO THE SENATE

 

IS CONTROLLED BY.

 

I DON'T THINK THE HOUSE WOULD.

 

BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS CONTROL

 

THE HOUSE.

 

BUT THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT.

 

AND AS I SAY, I WAS ALONE ON

 

THIS ISSUE.

 

I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY TO THE

 

CREDIT OF JAY ASHCROFT -- I

 

CAN'T BELIEVE I'M SAYING THAT.

 

I CAN'T EITHER.

 

YOU KNOW, HIS FATHER WAS

 

SOMEBODY THAT I JUST DISAGREED

 

WITH SO MUCH FOR SO LONG

 

ALTHOUGH --

 

BUT YOU HAVE RESPECT FOR HIM.

 

I ALWAYS RESPECTED HIS

 

INTEGRITY AND MAYBE JAY ASHCROFT

 

IS TRYING TO BRAND HIMSELF --

 

BUT WHAT CAN HE DO IF HE A

 

QUESTION HAS BEEN RAISED ABOUT

 

SENATOR-ELECT HAWLEY, HE HAS TO

 

FOLLOW --

 

WELL, TO HIS CREDIT AND I'LL

 

STICK TO MY GUNS, THE FACT THAT

 

HE HAS A DREADED APPOINTEE

 

WORKING FOR HIM WHO HAPPENS TO

 

GIVE MONEY FOR A DEMOCRAT, AS IF

 

THAT WAS A CRIME, AND THE FACT

 

THAT HE'S BROUGHT IN THE

 

DEMOCRATIC AUDITOR WITH SUBPOENA

 

POWER, IT IS THE BEST EXAMPLE OF

 

BIPARTISANSHIP OUT THERE.

 

I CAN'T BELIEVE EVERYBODY IS NOT

 

EMBRACING AND GIVING JAY

 

ASHCROFT CREDIT FOR WHAT APPEARS

 

TO BE AN INDEPENDENT

 

INVESTIGATION OF SOMEBODY IN HIS

 

OWN PARTY.

 

I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THERE ARE

 

REPUBLICANS VERY UPSET ABOUT IT.

 

THERE ARE REPUBLICANS WHO ARE

 

VERY UPSET ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK

 

IN TERMS OF THE DEMOCRAT WHO

 

HAS -- HEISINGER, I MEAN NO

 

DISRESPECT, I JUST CAN'T

 

REMEMBER HER NAME AT THIS

 

MOMENT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT

 

SHE WORKS FOR MR. ASHCROFT, BUT

 

I JUST THINK IN TERMS OF OPTICS,

 

WE HAVE TO --

 

I THINK IT'S GREAT OPTICS!

 

THAT A REPUBLICAN PICKS A

 

DEMOCRAT TO RUN -- TO

 

INVESTIGATE A FELLOW REPUBLICAN.

 

I THINK THAT'S PERFECT AND IF IT

 

WERE FLIPPED, I THINK IT WAS

 

PERFECT.

 

I THINK IT IS PERFECT THAT --

 

SEVERAL OF OUS THE PANEL

 

DISAGREE WITH YOU TONIGHT, RAY.

 

I KNOW YOU DO.

 

ALL FOUR OF YOU.

 

AND IF THE SITUATION WAS

 

REVERSED, BUT KATHY, WE THANK

 

YOU.

 

LET'S GO TO BILL, FIRST-TIME

 

CALLER FROM ROCK HILL.

 

WHO?

 

BILL, YOU'RE ON DONNYBROOK

 

YOU'RE TURN.

 

BILL FROM ROCK HILL.

 

Caller: RAY, THIS IS OUR

 

TURN, NOT YOUR TURN.

 

NOW THAT WE GOT THAT STRAIGHT,

 

I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE

 

SITUATION ABOUT THE PHOTOGRAPH

 

OF THE FOOTBALL WITH THE HIGH

 

SIGN.

 

HAVE YOU NOTICED THERE SOMES

 

TUBE KIND OF A SUB CULTURE THAT

 

HAS DEVELOPED THAT SPENDS ALL

 

THEIR TIME TRYING TO FIND STUFF

 

TO GET OFFENDED BY?

 

IT'S GOT TO BE RIDICULOUS.

 

THIS PAST WEEK THERE WAS

 

SOMEBODY WHO HAD A BIG

 

CONNIPTION BECAUSE THEY CLAIMED

 

THAT RUDOLPH THE RED-NOSED

 

REINDEER WAS BULLYING AND NOW

 

THEY'RE ALL UPSET ABOUT IT AND

 

THIS THING WITH THE HIGH SIGN.

 

FOLKS, FIRST OF ALL, GET A LIFE.

 

SECOND OF ALL, LAWYERS STOP

 

TAKING CASES FOR THESE PEOPLE.

 

AND THIRD OF ALL, THE

 

CONSTITUTION -- YOU SHOULD KNOW

 

THIS, RAY, AS BEING A MEMBER OF

 

THE ACLU, CONTROVERSIAL SPEECH

 

IS PROTECTED SPEECH.

 

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE

 

CONSTITUTION THAT SAYS YOU HAVE

 

A RIGHT NOT TO BE OFFENDED.

 

AMEN.

 

Caller: AND ALL THE PEOPLE

 

TRYING TO FIND THESE SAFE SPEECH

 

ZONES ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND

 

TRYING TO -- YOU KNOW, THEY'RE

 

TRYING -- THERE'S NO RIGHT TO BE

 

NOT OFFENDED IN THE

 

CONSTITUTION.

 

IT DOESN'T EXIST.

 

WE AGREE.

 

WE AGREE, AND I I HAVE -- I'M

 

GUILTY OF A LOT OF THINGS, BUT

 

STICKING UP FOR, YOU KNOW --

 

DEFENDING --

 

YOU ALWAYS DEFEND FREE

 

SPEECH.

 

I AGREE WITH YOU.

 

THANKS, BILL, THANKS FOR

 

CALLING.

 

LET'S GO TO THE TWITTERVERSE.

 

@CRAIG, MY BUDDY.

 

THE REPUBLICAN SECRETARY OF

 

STATE APPOINTED THE LAWYER WHO

 

WILL INVESTIGATE WHAT MAY OR MAY

 

NOT HAVE HAPPENED IN JOSH

 

HAWLEY'S CAMPAIGN.

 

HAS ANYONE QUESTIONED HIM

 

DIRECTLY WHY HE CHOSE HER?

 

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, CRAIG.

 

I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE HE

 

WANTS TO APPEAR BIPARTISAN.

 

SISTER VAUR 23, WHEN IT COMES TO

 

THE OKAY SIGN, I THINK IT'S

 

ABOUT EDUCATING YOURSELF.

 

MANY PEOPLE FIND SIGNS WE FIND

 

HARMLESS AS INSULTING.

 

BE RESPECTFUL AND THINK OF THE

 

CONTEXT IT IS USED.

 

THANK YOU.

 

@STEVE JACOBOWSKI, I WOULD

 

RATHER WE DEVELOP THE PERSONAL

 

PROPERTY TAX INSTEAD OF THE

 

EARNINGS TAX.

 

IT'S PART OF THE REASON I BOUGHT

 

A 2005 CAR.

 

THANK YOU.

 

KEEP TWEETING US AT THE

 

#DONNYBROOKSTL.

 

AND WE'LL GO TO BRENDA IN

 

COLLINSVILLE.

 

HELLO, BRENDA.

 

HI, BRENDA.

 

Caller: HI.

 

I'M CALLING ABOUT THE OKAY SIGN.

 

I WAS IN THE ARMY AND WHEN WE

 

WENT TO GERMANY IN 1979, WE WERE

 

TOLD NOT TO USE THAT SIGN TO THE

 

GERMANS BECAUSE IT MEANT

 

MY GOODNESS.

 

OKAY.

 

WELL, WE THANK YOU AND WE'RE

 

HOPING OUR DELAY IS WORKING THIS

 

EVENING.

 

IT MAY OR MAY NOT.

 

THANK YOU, BRENDA.

 

THAT ONE -- WELL, I THOUGHT WHEN

 

SHE SAID THEY WERE IN GERMANY,

 

THAT IF THIS WAS A QUESTION OF A

 

WHITE -- WOW.

 

OKAY, BRENDA, THANK YOU SO MUCH

 

FOR PHONING IN.

 

I DID NOT SEE THAT ONE

 

COMING.

 

I DID NOT EITHER.

 

LET'S GO TO RON IN AUGUSTA,

 

MISSOURI.

 

HI, RON.

 

WATCH YOUR TONGUE.

 

Caller: YEAH, BRENDA, GO,

 

GIRL.

 

IT'S OKAY WITH ME.

 

Caller: FIRST OFF, MERRY

 

CHRISTMAS TO YOU GUYS.

 

THANK YOU.

 

SAME TO YOU, BY THE WAY.

 

Caller: AS FAR AS THIS

 

ASHCROFT THING, IF I'M GOING TO

 

BE INVESTIGATED, THE I WANT THE

 

PERSON THAT'S GOING TO DIG UP

 

THE WORST STUFF ON ME.

 

IF HE'S NOT GUILTY, HE'S NOT

 

GUILTY.

 

IF HE'S GUILTY, HE'S GUILTY.

 

I SUPPORTED JOSH, I THINK HE'S A

 

GOOD GUY, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO

 

INVESTIGATE HIM, LET'S DO IT.

 

I COULDN'T CARE LESS WHO IT DID.

 

LET'S FIND OUT WHAT'S TWG ON.

 

I AGREE.

 

Caller: AND AS FAR AS THIS

 

SILLY OKAY THING, I'M A KID OF

 

THE '70s IN HIGH SCHOOL, SO I

 

HAD TO WATCH MY BLACK FRIENDS

 

AND I PROBABLY WOULD ADMIT I

 

MAYBE EVEN IN A WEAK MOMENT

 

JOINED IN WITH THE CLENCHED FIST

 

FOR BLACK POWER.

 

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WHITE POWER,

 

WE HAVE BLACK POWER.

 

WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT STUFF.

 

OKAY.

 

Caller: WE DON'T LIKE EITHER

 

ONE.

 

ALL RIGHT.

 

Caller: WE'RE JUST ONE

 

COUNTRY.

 

OKAY.

 

APPRECIATE THAT.

 

THANK YOU, RON.

 

WE APPRECIATE YOU CALLING.

 

LET'S GO TO JOHN FROM MAPLE

 

WOOD.

 

HI, JOHN.

 

Caller: HI.

 

HOW ARE YOU GUYS?

 

WE'RE GOOD.

 

Caller: DON'T FIND MYSELF IN

 

A POSITION TO CONTRADICT ALVIN

 

TO MANY OCCASIONS, BUT TONIGHT

 

YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT YOU --

 

MY OWN TWO BOYS WHO ARE UNDER 16

 

ARE BOTH WORKING, ONE OF THEM IS

 

WORKING IN A RESTAURANT IN

 

MAPLEWOOD AND THE OTHER ONE IS

 

CUTTING GRASS AND, YOU KNOW,

 

HUSTLING TRYING TO MAKE MONEY

 

ANY WAY HE CAN, AND I THINK THE

 

SCHOOL DISTRICT REALLY

 

ENCOURAGES KIDS, YOU KNOW, TO

 

GET ALL KINDS OF EXPERIENCE, YOU

 

KNOW.

 

RIGHT.

 

Caller: THEY'VE DONE A GREAT

 

JOB.

 

THE COMMUNITY HERE HAS DONE A

 

GREAT JOB EMBRACING THESE KIDS

 

AND GIVING THEM THAT EXPERIENCE,

 

AND I THINK IT'S REALLY A SCHOOL

 

DISTRICT ON THE RISE AND A

 

COMMUNITY ON THE RISE.

 

OKAY.

 

Caller: SO ALVIN IS WRONG.

 

I'D LIKE TO STICK UP FOR

 

ALVIN.

 

I THINK HE WAS MAKING THE POINT

 

THAT IN CERTAIN PARTS OF

 

ST. LOUIS N THIS CASE IT WAS --

 

WAS IT ELLISVILLE?

 

IT WAS CHESTERFIELD.

 

CHESTERFIELD.

 

THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN PARTS OF

 

MORE AFFLUENT WEST COUNTY THAT I

 

THINK HE WAS VERY TACTFULLY AND

 

PROPERLY MAKING THE POINT THAT A

 

LOT OF PEOPLE WEREN'T INTERESTED

 

IN DOING THEIR JOBS.

 

I DON'T THINK HE WAS TALKING

 

ABOUT MAPLE WOOD AT ALL, SO I

 

THINK A WOULD -- THAT WOULD BE

 

MY GUESS OF WHAT HE WAS SAYING.

 

WE APPRECIATE THE CALL.

 

YES, AS A PARENT, WE -- OR AS

 

PARENTS, I SHOULD SAY, MY

 

HUSBAND AND I THOUGHT IT WAS

 

VERY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE HE AND I

 

HAD BOTH WORKED IN HIGH SCHOOL

 

AND I KNOW YOU WORKED IN HIGH

 

SCHOOL AND JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL

 

AND WE WORKED IN JUNIOR HIGH

 

SCHOOL.

 

I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEND A CHILD

 

INTO A COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY

 

EXPERIENCE WITHOUT HAVING A

 

LITTLE MORE LIFE EXPERIENCE.

 

AND YOU CAN'T FIND A BETTER

 

PLACE TO ACQUIRE THAT LIFE

 

EXPERIENCE THAN ON THE JOB.

 

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE A

 

TEENAGER.

 

SO I THINK PARENTS ARE DOING

 

THEIR CHILDREN A GREAT

 

DISSERVICE WHEN -- THAT'S JUST

 

MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION -- WHEN

 

THEY DON'T ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET

 

A JOB.

 

MAYBE THEY'RE IN LIKE FLINT IN

 

COLLEGE AND THEY DON'T NEED TO

 

HAVE A JOB, BUT THANKS, JOHN,

 

FOR ALLOWING ME TO EVENT.

 

GOOD FOR YOU AND BECAUSE OF

 

THAT, I GOT TO WORK FOR THE

 

GREAT MARTIN DUGGAN.

 

AND THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT FOR

 

YOU.

 

IT NEVER SEEMED TO --

 

OH, HE WAS SO PROUD OF YOU.

 

BILL FROM BONNE TERRE.

 

HOW ARE YOU DOING, BILL?

 

Caller: WENDY, I ABSOLUTELY

 

LOVE YOU, BUT I DON'T LIKE WHAT

 

YOU SAID ABOUT PEOPLE WHO DON'T

 

LIKE THE RESULTS OF ELECTION

 

TRYING TOOVER -- TOOVER TURN IT

 

THROUGH INVESTIGATION.

 

INVESTIGATION ONLY GET PEOPLE'S

 

WHO HAVE COMMITTED CRIMES.

 

IF YOU DON'T CREDIT COMMIT A

 

CRIME, DON'T BE CONCERNED ABOUT

 

AN INVESTIGATION.

 

I THINK ANYBODY IN PUBLIC OFFICE

 

SHOULD FEAR BEING INVESTIGATED

 

TO DEATH BECAUSE THAT'S HOW

 

WE'RE GOING TO KEEP CROOKS OUT

 

OF PUBLIC OFFICE AND THE

 

RIDICULOUS NOTION THAT PEOPLE

 

WERE PUSHING ABOUT A PERJURY

 

TRAP, YOU KNOW WHAT?

 

PERJURY TRAPS CATCH LIARS.

 

YOU DON'T LIE, YOU DON'T GET

 

CAUGHT.

 

YEAH.

 

I AGREE THAT'S TRUE.

 

AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE,

 

I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE, THERE IS

 

THE REAL APPEARANCE -- I DON'T

 

KNOW CRIMINAL, WE DON'T KNOW

 

WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO.

 

RIGHT.

 

BUT THE APPEARANCE OF THESE

 

OUTSIDE POLITICAL CONSULTANTS,

 

YOU KNOW, HAVING ENGAGED, YOU

 

KNOW, MEMBERS OF THE ATTORNEY

 

GENERAL'S PUBLICLY PAID STAFF,

 

IT'S REALLY A TROUBLING THING.

 

AND I THINK, AGAIN, I'LL

 

CONGRATULATE JAY ASHCROFT FOR

 

TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.

 

I DO THINK IT'S GOOD THAT IT'S

 

BIPARTISAN IN HOW IT'S BEING

 

APPROACHED, AND I'LL STICK TO

 

THAT.

 

I CAN TELL YOU KIT BOND, THERE

 

WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ANY

 

INVESTIGATION BECAUSE THERE WAS

 

A VERY -- AND I GET CRITICIZED

 

FOR POINTING OUT ALL THE TIME,

 

BUT THERE WAS A VERY FIRM LINE

 

THAT WASN'T CROSSED IN THE

 

GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IN -- WHEN KIT

 

BOND WAS GOVERNOR.

 

AND BILL, I THANK YOU FOR THE

 

LOVE.

 

I'M JUST SAYING THAT IN THESE

 

PARTISAN, I MEAN IN THESE HIGHLY

 

CHARGED TIMES, FOR CHRISTINE

 

HEISINGER TO HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO

 

CLAIRE McCASKILL -- IF SHE WERE

 

JUST A DEMOCRAT, I WOULD SAY THE

 

OPTICS DON'T MATTER, BUT DOWN

 

THE ROAD, YOU DON'T WANT

 

ANYTHING TO JEOPARDIZE OR

 

DISCREDIT OR CALL INTO QUESTION

 

THE RESULTS OF WHAT SHE

 

UNEARTHS.

 

IT WON'T BE.

 

SHE REPORTS TO HER BOSS, THE

 

REPUBLICAN.

 

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.

 

IT'S BEAUTIFUL THAT BOTH PARTIES

 

ARE INVOLVED TOGETHER IN THIS

 

INVESTIGATION.

 

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.

 

SHE REPORTS TO JAY ASHCROFT.

 

ALL RIGHT, I GIVE UP, I CAN'T

 

WIN THE ARGUMENT.

 

WHO'S NEXT?

 

I GIVE UP.

 

LARRY IN SOUTH COUNTY.

 

HI, LARRY, WELCOME TO DONNYBROOK

 

YOUR TURN.

 

Caller: HI, GUYS.

 

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO BOTH OF YOU.

 

ON THIS CITY EARNINGS TAX THING,

 

YEARS AGO WE MOVED FROM THE CITY

 

TO THE COUNTY AND IT HAD MORE TO

 

DO WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

 

WE THOUGHT THAT THE SCHOOLS WERE

 

BECOMING SUBPAR AND A LOT OF

 

PEOPLE WILL MOVE FOR THAT, BUT

 

THE CITY EARNINGS TAX WAS PART

 

OF IT, TOO.

 

WE MOVED TO SHREWSBURY AND, OF

 

COURSE, WE DIDN'T HAVE A CITY

 

EARNINGS TAX THERE.

 

RIGHT.

 

RIGHT.

 

I THINK THAT'S A FAIR POINT.

 

I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY PROS

 

AND CONS.

 

YOU AGREE, LARRY, THAT THE FOLKS

 

IN THE CITY AT LEAST, VOTED

 

FAIRLY OVERWHELMINGLY IN FAVOR

 

OF IT AND YOU MAY HAVE VOTED

 

WITH YOUR FEET, I GET THAT, BUT

 

I'M JUST SAYING -- WHICH YOU

 

HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO, BUT IT WAS

 

A PRETTY CLEAR-CUT VOTE IN THE

 

CITY AND IN KANSAS CITY.

 

AND WE'VE BEEN DEBATING THIS

 

ISSUE FOR DECADES, HAVEN'T WE?

 

AND THIS WHOLE QUESTION COULDN'T

 

COME, I THINK, AT A WORST TIME

 

FOR THE CITY BECAUSE THE GAP

 

THAT WOULD BE LEFT IF WE HAD

 

THAT VACUUM WOULD BE -- WE'D BE

 

IN REAL TROUBLE.

 

LARRY, THANK YOU.

 

THANK YOU FOR THE CALL.

 

LET'S GO TO TOM IN JEFFERSON

 

COUNTY.

 

HI, TOM, YOU'RE ON DONNYBROOK,

 

YOUR TURN.

 

ARE YOU THERE, TOM?

 

SPEAK INTO THE PHONE AND NOT

 

THE --

 

Caller: GOOD EVENING AND

 

MERRY CHRISTMAS.

 

YEAH, I'M HERE.

 

GOOD EVENING AND MERRY

 

CHRISTMAS.

 

MERRY CHRISTMAS.

 

WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND?

 

Caller: I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY

 

SOMETHING ON THE EARNINGS TAX.

 

GO AHEAD.

 

OKAY.

 

Caller: YOU DON'T HAVE TO --

 

I DIDN'T LIVE IN THE CITY AND

 

WHEN I WORKED ON CONSTRUCTION OR

 

FOR AN OFFICE IN ST. LOUIS, WE

 

HAD TO PAY THE EARNINGS TAX AND

 

THERE'S NO WAY TO FILE TO GET

 

THAT MONEY BACK.

 

IT'S A LOT OF MONEY GOING TO THE

 

CITY.

 

THAT WAS THE IDEA, THAT WHILE

 

YOU WERE WORKING IN CONSTRUCTION

 

IN THE CITY, IF YOU NEEDED A

 

POLICEMAN OR A --

 

OR A FIREFIGHTER.

 

OR A FIREFIGHTER OR A MEDIC

 

OR YOU NEEDED THE STREETS TO NOT

 

HAVE POTHOLES, YOU WERE -- THE

 

CITY WAS COVERING THAT COST FOR

 

YOU AS THEY DO FOR US WHEN WE

 

COME TO THE COUNTY TO CHANNEL 9.

 

THAT'S THE THEORY AT LEAST.

 

THAT MAKE SENSE?

 

Caller: HOW MUCH -- I DON'T

 

KNOW.

 

I'M ASKING A QUESTION.

 

HOW MUCH REVENUE DOES THAT BRING

 

INTO THE CITY EACH YEAR?

 

I SHOULD KNOW THAT AND I

 

DON'T REMEMBER THAT.

 

100 -- IT'S AT LEAST --

 

IT'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER.

 

IT'S 100-PLUS MILLION.

 

100-PLUS MILLION DOLLARS.

 

A SIGNIFICANT SOURCE OF

 

REVENUE FOR THE CITY.

 

I THINK IT'S A THIRD OF THE

 

OPERATING -- 30%, I APOLOGIZE, I

 

THINK IT'S ROUGHLY 30% OF THE

 

OPERATING BUDGET.

 

AND IT FOLLOWS CITY RESIDENTS

 

IF THEY WORK IN THE COUNTY AND

 

THAT'S THE -- IN A PERFECT

 

WORLD, MAYBE EVERYBODY WOULD

 

HAVE THE EARNINGS TACT AND IT

 

WOULDN'T IMPEDIMENT TO THE CITY,

 

BUT WE HAD AN ELECTION AND THE

 

POINT IS EVERY FIVE YEARS,

 

UNFORTUNATELY, THE VOTERS HAVE

 

TO REDECIDE THIS POINT AND FOR A

 

STATE SENATOR FROM ANYWHERE

 

OUTSIDE OF THE CITY TO BE TRYING

 

TO FOIST THIS ON PEOPLE IS JUST

 

AWFUL.

 

WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE VOTE.

 

TO ALVIN'S SUGGESTION THAT

 

THIS HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH A

 

BETTER TOGETHER TYPE OF SCENARIO

 

AND THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE

 

CITY AND THE COUNTY, THAT'S

 

GOING TO BE REALLY INTERESTING

 

TO WATCH.

 

THE CONCEPT IS VERY

 

TROUBLESOME.

 

YES, TOM, THANK YOU.

 

LET'S GO TO CAROLYN FROM

 

BELLEVILLE.

 

HI, CAROLYN.

 

Caller: HI.

 

HOW ARE YOU?

 

Caller: I'M FINE, THANK YOU.

 

I'M CALLING REGARDING THE LADUE

 

STUDENT MAKING THE SIGN.

 

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS IN HIS

 

HEART.

 

MAYBE IT WAS HARMLESS OR MAYBE

 

IT'S A PART OF A SUBCULTURE

 

THAT'S A RESULT OF THE PRESIDENT

 

THAT WE HAVE.

 

THE PRESIDENT CALLED HIMSELF A

 

NATIONALIST.

 

HE'S A WHITE NATIONALIST.

 

AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN, WHEN I

 

HEAR WHITE NATIONALIST, I THINK

 

OF KKK AND NEO NAZI.

 

I THINK THE CLIMATE HAS BECOME

 

UNHEALTHY, ESPECIALLY SINCE HE

 

BECAME PRESIDENT.

 

I THINK THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP

 

APPEALS TO PEOPLE'S FEAR AND

 

IGNORANCE, AND I THINK THAT'S

 

WHAT'S GOING ON.

 

THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT.

 

THANK YOU.

 

OKAY.

 

THANK YOU.

 

IT IS REALLY HARD FOR ME TO

 

BELIEVE, BECAUSE THIS PRESIDENT

 

LITERALLY SHOOTS HIMSELF IN THE

 

FOOT ON AN HOURLY BASIS, IT'S

 

VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO BELIEVE

 

THAT WHEN HE SAID THAT HE WAS --

 

WHEN HE CALLED HIMSELF A

 

NATIONALIST, THAT HE UNDERSTOOD

 

THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT ANY

 

MORE THAN HE UNDERSTANDS THE

 

IMPLICATIONS OF 10 OUT OF 20 OF

 

HIS TWEETS DURING THE DAY.

 

BUT I -- AND I RESPECT WHAT

 

YOU'RE SAYING, CAROLYN, AND --

 

WE'LL KEEP IT LOW CUT.

 

I DO AGREE WITH CAROLYN, BUT I

 

WILL SAY IN THE CASE OF THIS,

 

I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THIS

 

PARTICULAR INSTANCE IN LADUE WAS

 

A CASE OF THE KID DOING A

 

NATIONALIST SIGN.

 

I DON'T KNOW.

 

AND AS I SAY, I -- IT WAS AN

 

INTERESTING CONVERSATION WITH

 

BILL AND CHARLIE ABOUT HOW IT

 

SHOULD BE COVERED AND THAT'S

 

REALLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, BUT

 

I AGREE WITH CAROLYN IN GENERAL

 

ABOUT THE SENTIMENT ABOUT THE

 

PRESIDENT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT

 

IT'S FAIR TO NECESSARILY -- I

 

JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AT

 

LADUE, IF ANYTHING.

 

WE'LL SEE.

 

THANK YOU FOR CALLING,

 

CAROLYN.

 

THANK YOU FOR THE CALL.

 

LET'S GO TO TERRY FROM O'FALLON,

 

ILLINOIS.

 

HI, TERRY.

 

Caller: HELLO.

 

YOU'RE ON THE AIR.

 

Caller: GOOD.

 

I HAVE TWO THINGS THAT I'D LIKE

 

TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT.

 

THE FIRST ONE IS THE GSA SITE, I

 

BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, THE

 

GEOSPATIAL -- I THINK THAT'S

 

PROBABLY THE BIGGEST WASTE OF

 

TAXPAYER MONEY THAT THE

 

ST. LOUIS REGION HAS SEEN SINCE

 

PRUITT IGO.

 

THEY COULD HAVE BUILT THAT ON

 

THE SITE FREE OF CHARGE FOR THE

 

LAND AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN

 

RIGHT THERE WHERE A VAST

 

MAJORITY OF THEIR WORK CAME FROM

 

WITHOUT HAVING TO RUN NEW

 

COMMUNICATIONS LINES ACROSS THE

 

RIVER.

 

OKAY, RIGHT.

 

Caller: THAT'S ABOUT ALL I

 

WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT ONE.

 

HOWEVER, ON THE KID WITH THE

 

OKAY SIGN SUPPOSEDLY, MAYBE A

 

LITTLE HUMOR HERE.

 

IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE SHOW

 

SEINFELD, THERE WAS AN EPISODE

 

WHERE KRAMER GOT MIXED UP WITH

 

THE VAN BUREN GANG AND THEY HAD

 

A SIGN VERY SIMILAR TO THAT.

 

MAYBE THAT'S WHAT HE WAS GIVING.

 

I DON'T KNOW.

 

KRAMER HAD HIS OWN PROBLEMS.

 

I GET YOUR POINT.

 

YOU'RE IN ST. CLAIR COUNTY,

 

CORRECT?

 

Caller: CORRECT.

 

AND LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

 

IF YOU'RE OUT OF TOWN AND

 

SOMEBODY SAYS WHERE ARE YOU

 

FROM, WHAT'S YOUR ANSWER?

 

Caller: I'M FROM O'FALLON?

 

YOU DON'T SAY ST. LOUIS?

 

THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS

 

MAKING.

 

I THINK THE CITY WAS

 

PERFECTLY --

 

WITHIN ITS RIGHTS.

 

DID THE RIGHT THING TO KEEP

 

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE

 

LARGE OPERATION HERE, AND HAVING

 

SAID THAT, I ALSO TRY TO MAKE

 

THE POINT THAT I THINK YOU'RE AS

 

MUCH A PART OF ST. LOUIS AS

 

ST. LOUIS IS, BUT APPARENTLY YOU

 

DON'T REALLY LOOK AT -- YOU LOOK

 

AT YOURSELF AS NOT FROM

 

ST. LOUIS, IS THAT CORRECT?

 

Caller: WELL, I HAVE FAMILY

 

ON BOTH SIDES OF THE RIVER AND

 

WE'VE HAD FAMILY ON BOTH SIDES

 

OF THE RIVER FOR MANY YEARS.

 

BUT IF THE CARDINALS --

 

IN THE CARDINALS WERE IN THE

 

WORLD SERIES, WHERE ARE YOU

 

FROM?

 

ST. LOUIS!

 

Caller: OH, I'M MORE OR LESS

 

A RACING ENTHUSIAST.

 

HOWEVER, I PAY ATTENTION TO THE

 

CARDINALS IN THE PLAYOFFS.

 

OF COURSE, YOU DO.

 

THAT'S FINE, WE'RE ALL ONE

 

COMMUNITY HERE, BUT THANKS FOR

 

THE CALL, TERRY.

 

THANK YOU, TERRY.

 

THANKS TO ALL OUR VIEWERS ON

 

BOTH SIDES OF THE RIVER.

 

LET'S GO TO BRIAN WHO'S IN SOUTH

 

COUNTY, WHICH I THINK IS PART OF

 

ST. LOUIS.

 

I THINK IT IS, UNLESS THERE'S

 

BEEN AN EARTHQUAKE.

 

HI, BRIAN.

 

Caller: IT IS A PART OF

 

ST. LOUIS AND AS A COUNTY

 

RESIDENT, THERE'S A LOT OF

 

REASONS WHY I DON'T LIVE IN THE

 

CITY, BUT I SUPPORT THE CITY

 

100% AND YOU -- I'M FOR THE

 

EARNINGS TAX.

 

I WORK TWO PART-TIME JOBS IN THE

 

CITY AND I'M SURPRISED NO ONE

 

HAS USED THIS TERM.

 

IT'S A NECESSARY EVIL.

 

IT'S A THIRD OF THE CITY'S

 

BUDGET AND IF YOU SLASH A THIRD

 

OF THE CITY'S BUDGET, THE CITY

 

IS GOING TO GO DOWN THE TUBES

 

AND WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY IS

 

GOOD FOR THE REGION AS A WHOLE.

 

THANK YOU.

 

Caller: I LIVE IN SOUTH

 

COUNTY AND IT'S NOT EXACTLY

 

THRIVING.

 

IF THE CITY WERE THRIVING MORE,

 

THE REGION WOULD BE THRIVING

 

MORE.

 

THE CITY IS THE HEART OF THE

 

REGION WHETHER YOU WANT TO

 

ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT AND THE

 

ONE PERCENT EARNINGS TAX, WHILE

 

I DON'T LIKE IT COMING OUT OF MY

 

PAYCHECK, IT IS A NECESSARY

 

EVIL.

 

WELL SAID.

 

WELL SAID, BRIAN.

 

DO WE HAVE TIME FOR ONE MORE

 

CALLER?

 

WE HAVE TO BE REALLY QUICK, BOB

 

FROM ST. LOUIS.

 

YOU HAVE ABOUT 15 SECONDS.

 

Caller: HEY, THIS IS BOB.

 

HOW YOU GUYS DOING?

 

YOU LOOK UP THERE.

 

I NECESSITY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

 

TSH NOTICE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

 

THE TAX.

 

REALLY QUICK, BOB.

 

WE'RE ABOUT OUT OF TIME.

 

Caller: MY THING WAS, OKAY,

 

IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAX, FINE.

 

YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT

 

POTHOLES AND EVERYTHING.

 

I HAVEN'T LIVED HERE THIS LORNG,

 

BUT I NOTICE WHEN IT RAINS, YOU

 

CAN'T SEE THE ROADS.

 

MAYBE THEY COULD THROW SOME OF

 

THAT INTO PAINT.

 

YOU CAN'T SEE LINES AND THEN THE

 

POTHOLES ARE THERE.

 

WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

 

WE WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU

 

ACROSS OUR REGION FOR SUPPORTING

 

CHANNEL 9 AND WATCHING US AND

 

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN NEXT

 

THURSDAY NIGHT.

 

YES, WE WILL.

 

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.