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HELLO TO THOSE ASSEMBLED AROUND

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THE TABLE FOR THIS EDITION ARE

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STARTING WITH THE MEDIA VETERAN

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HERSELF, WENDY WIESE OF KTRS AND

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BEYOND.

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MR. BILL McCLELLAN FROM THE

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ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH.

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ONE OF OUR FOUNDERS, HE'S RAY

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HARTMANN.

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AND FROM STLMAG.COM AND THE

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ST. LOUIS AMERICAN AND BEYOND,

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ALVIN REID, AND BEFORE WE BEGIN

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THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT, LET'S

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REMIND OR MAYBE INFORM OUR

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VIEWERS THAT TOMORROW NIGHT,

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BETWEEN 5:00 AND 7:00 AT THE

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SCHNUCKS RICHMOND HEIGHTS, WE'LL

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SALVATION ARMY AND WE HOPE AS

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MANY OF YOU AS POSSIBLE CAN COME

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WE REACH OUT TO YOU.

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PLEASE COME OUT AND SAY HELLO

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AND RAISE SOME MONEY FOR A

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WONDERFUL CAUSE.

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GIVE ALL THE CHILDREN A MERRY

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CHRISTMAS.

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THAT'S TOMORROW, 5:00 TO 7:00,

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SCHNUCKS, RICHMOND HEIGHTS.

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ALVIN REID, RAN INTO YOU TODAY

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ALONG WITH CONGRESSMAN LACY

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CLAY.

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THE TWO OF YOU IN DOWNTOWN

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ST. LOUIS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS,

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SO IT'S COULD IT'S DAYTONA TAL

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THAT WE RAN -- COINCIDENTAL THAT

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THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS

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TRANSFERRED THE LAND TO THE

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THE TRANSFER OF THE NATIONAL

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ST. LOUIS TO NORTH ST. LOUIS.

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TODAY THE LAND THAT WILL BE THE

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OFFICIALLY FEDERAL PROPERTY.

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AND I THOUGHT I WAS INTERESTING

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BECAUSE IT'S BEEN POINTED OUT

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THAT THE CITY ACTUALLY HAS SPENT

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WILL RECAPTURE THROUGH THE

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EARNINGS TAX, TO PREPARE THE

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LAND FOR THIS SITE.

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$120 MILLION.

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IT'S MOVING TO AUSTIN, TEXAS,

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FACILITY AND 5,000 JOBS AND

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AUSTIN IS GIVING ZERO DOLLARS,

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YOU THINK TIMES WE'RE GIVING

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AWAIT CANDY STORE?

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WELL, BEFORE WE GO INTO THAT,

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CONGRESSMAN CLAY WAS THERE TO

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SEE CAROL DANIEL AND I WAS ON

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DAVE LOVE'S SHOW AND CHARLIE PUT

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US BOTH TO WORK FOR HIM A TRUE

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YOU WEREN'T FORCED.

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NO, ALWAYS A PLEASURE.

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IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS IN

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ST. LOUIS AND WE WERE COMPETING

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REGION, SO JUST CLEARING THIS

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LAND, ESPECIALLY LAND ON THE

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$120 MILLION, TO ME THAT'S NOT

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CANDY STORE.

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GOVERNMENTAL FACILITY WHICH IS

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NOT GOING ANYWHERE, WHICH IS NOT

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GOING TO CLOSE, AND WHICH IN

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BIGGER.

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ONE.

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IT'S THE SAME STORY,

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DIFFERENT DAY.

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I MEAN, WE'RE NOT AUSTIN.

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EXACTLY.

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AND AUSTIN, I BELIEVE, IS ONE

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OF THE METROPOLITAN AREAS WAY

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SMALLER THAN OURS THAT IF YOU

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PROJECT OUT MAYBE A DECADE OR

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IT'S GROWING THAT QUICKLY.

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AND THE FACT IS, WE ALL AGREE

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THAT CORPORATE WELFARE IS NOT A

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GREAT THING AND THAT UNTIL

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THERE'S SOME NATIONAL --

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THIS IS GOVERNMENT WELFARE.

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WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I

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DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.

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THE TROUBLE IS, THIS IS A CITY

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TRYING TO AVOID BANKRUPTCY.

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IT'S TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING IT

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CAN TO STAY ALIVE, AND IT'S JUST

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NOT -- IT'S APPLES AND ORANGES

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TO COMPARE IT TO AUSTIN.

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BUT WE ARE A BIGGER CITY THAN

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AUSTIN.

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WE HAVE A BIGGER WORKFORCE.

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WE JUST GIVE ANYBODY WHO ASKS

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FOR IT, WHETHER IT'S THE ARCH

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DOWNTOWN OR THE FEDERAL

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GOVERNMENT -- I DON'T KNOW OTHER

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CITIES THAT ARE SPENDING TAX

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DOLLARS FOR THE FEDERAL

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GOVERNMENT!

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WELL, ON THIS AUSTIN THING,

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CHARLIE, FIRST OF ALL, THE STATE

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OF TEXAS HAS GIVEN A BUNCH OF

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NO, NO, NOT A BUNCH, JUST

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25 MILLION, WHICH IS A THIRD

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THAT CLAYTON IS GIVING CENTENE.

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I DON'T THINK PEOPLE IN

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AUSTIN ARE THRILLED WITH THIS.

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I HAVE A BROTHER-IN-LAW AND

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SISTER-IN-LAW WHO LIVE IN AUSTIN

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AND THEY'RE ALWAYS COMPLAINING

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ABOUT HOW THE TECH PEOPLE HAVE

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DRIVEN UP ALL THE PRICES AND

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AUSTIN IS NO LONGER WEIRD.

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ED WEIRDNESS IS DRIVEN DOWN TO

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SAN MARCOS WHERE MY SON LIVES.

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BUT AUSTIN IS CONGESTED AND A

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LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT HAPPY

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WE'D BE THRILLED, BUT THE RIP

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GET RICHER.

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THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.

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AND DEIDRE O'BRIEN WHO MADE

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THE ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY IN AUSTIN

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SPOKE OF THE EXISTING

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RELATIONSHIP THAT APPLE HAS IN

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TEXAS AND IN THAT AREA, AND I

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THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT EITHER.

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THAT WE'RE NOT KNOWN AS A TECH

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HUB YET.

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I MEAN, MAYBE WE WILL, MAYBE WE

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WILL BE --

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STRONG, AT LEAST IN THE RANKINGS

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BY NATIONAL PUBLICATIONS.

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I JUST FEEL OUR LEADERS, WHO

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HAVE GIVEN AWAY PROBABLY

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$7 BILLION IN THE LAST 20 YEARS,

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THEY GIVE IT TO ANYBODY AND

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MEANWHILE, WHY LOOK AT OTHER

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WHY DON'T WE LEARN FROM THEIR

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SAY NO.

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IN APRIL 2017, THE VOTERS IN THE

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CITY OF ST. LOUIS SAID NO TO MLS

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AND MLS CAME BACK.

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BUT WE'VE DARN NEAR LOST NGA

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TO ST. CLAIR COUNTY AND I

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THOUGHT WE WOULD AND THE FACT

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THAT WE SOMEHOW MANAGED TO

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RETAIN THE NGA WAS A BIG

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VICTORY.

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RIGHT, AND I THINK EVERYONE

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ONE OF THOSE --

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BUT PUT NGA --

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I WAS GOING TO SAY, WE WERE

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ALL AGAINST THAT VOTE.

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F NGA IS A GOVERNMENT

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FACILITY AND COMPARE THAT TO --

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YOU CAN'T DO IT.

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THAT'S MY DISTINCTION.

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LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY.

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IF WE COULD HAVE GOT NECESSARILY

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HERE FOR $120 MILLION, WE'D BE

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ALL OVER THAT.

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IF WE CAN KEEP NGA HERE FOR

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$120 MILLION, THAT'S A GOOD

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DEAL.

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PERHAPS YOU'RE RIGHT, BUT I

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DON'T KNOW OF OTHER STATES THAT

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SUBSIDIZE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

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OR CITIES, AND WE'RE DOING IT

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TWICE.

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I THINK IF YOU'RE TALKING

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ABOUT POLITICIANS, THEY BELIEVE

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THAT MORE JOBS EQUAL

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RE-ELECTION, AND I THINK ONE OF

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THE THINGS THAT CLAIRE WAS

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ROUNDLY CRITICIZED FOR WITHIN

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THE PROGRESSIVE ARM OF YOUR

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PARTY WAS NOT BEING AGGRESSIVE

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ENOUGH.

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YOU KNOW, WHEN IT CAME TO

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BRINGING JOBS OR KEEPING JOBS --

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CLAIRE?

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YEAH, CLAIRE WAS.

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I NEVER HEARD THAT.

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TO HAVE JUST -- I DON'T CONFLATE

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THE FACADE OF SPORTS FRANCHISES,

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WHICH IS MOSTLY MONEY JUST

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CHIPPING AROUND, BUT WHAT ALVIN

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IS TALKING ABOUT IS PERMANENT,

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SOLID, TAX-PRODUCING JOBS AND IF

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WE HAD JUST, WERE WILLING AND

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COURAGEOUS ENOUGH TO JUST SAY NO

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TO NGA, WE WOULD HAVE JUST SAID

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GOODBYE.

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RAY, RAY, WE GAVE UP THE

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EARNINGS TAX, RIGHT?

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SO WHAT DO WE GET OUT OF IT IF

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IT --

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[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ]

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IF ST. CLAIR COUNTY HAD GOTTEN

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IT, WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE

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FOR OUR AREA?

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CHARLIE, HALF OF THE EARNINGS

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TAX.

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HALF OF THE EARNINGS TAX.

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NOT ALL OF IT.

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BUT NOW WE HAVE A BIG HOLE IN

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SOUTH ST. LOUIS.

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OKAY, I'M SURE THERE WILL BE

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SOME PHONE CALLS ON THAT ON YOUR

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TURN AS WE MOVE TO YOU, WENDY.

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THIS IS AN INTERESTING STORY

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BECAUSE OUR REPUBLICAN SECRETARY

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OF STATE, JAY ASHCROFT, IS NOW

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INVESTIGATING THE NEXT U.S.

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SENATOR FROM MISSOURI, JOSH

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HAWLEY.

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THE KANSAS CITY STAR AND OTHERS

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HAVE REPORTED THAT IN THE EARLY

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DAYS OF HAWLEY'S TENURE AS

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ATTORNEY GENERAL, HE HAD HIS

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POLITICAL OPERATIVES RUNNING THE

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SHOW INSIDE THE OFFICES IN JEFF

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CITY, SO JAY ASHCROFT IS

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INVESTIGATING IT, AND PICKED ONE

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CHRISTINE HEISINGER WHO HAS

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GIVEN FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO

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HAWLEY'S MOST RECENT OPPONENT

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SENATOR CLAIRE McCASKILL.

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JUST FOR APPEARANCES SAKE, DON'T

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YOU THINK THIS IS A POOR CHOICE?

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I DO, AND I'LL GET BACK TO

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THAT IN A MOMENT.

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JOSH HAWLEY, IF THIS IS PROVEN

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TO BE TRUE, I WILL BE STUNNED

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BECAUSE JOSH HAWLEY TO ME IS THE

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ANTI-GREITENS.

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GREITENS, BOTH OF THEM HAVE

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LOOKED FOR A SUCCESSFUL

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POLITICAL CAREER, APPARENTLY

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SINCE THEY WERE IN, YOU KNOW,

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SHORT PANTS.

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IT LOOKS LIKE A LIFELONG

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AMBITION.

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GREITENS WAS OBVIOUSLY KIND OF

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COMPULSIVE AND HAD A WISH THAT.

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TO ME, HAWLEY LOOKS LIKE THE

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KIND OF GUY THAT HASN'T HAD A

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SINGLE MISSTEP, SO I WILL BE

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STUNNED IF THIS IS BORN OUT.

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BUT IN TERMS OF CHRISTINE

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HEISINGER, WE'VE ENTERED THE ERA

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WHERE WE DON'T LIKE THE RESULTS

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OF AN ELECTION, WE FIND A WAY TO

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OVERTURN THE RESULTS OF THAT

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ELECTION.

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WE'RE SEEING IT IN WASHINGTON

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AND I DON'T -- I MEAN, I AM

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SORRY TO SEE THAT HAPPENING.

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I THINK THAT IN LIGHT OF THAT

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AND THE CURRENT CLIMATE, A

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DEMOCRAT WHO HAS CONTRIBUTED

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GENEROUSLY TO CLAIRE

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McCASKILL -- SEE, I CAME BACK --

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A DEMOCRAT WHO HAS CONTRIBUTED

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GENEROUSLY TO CLAIRE McCASKILL'S

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CAMPAIGN IS NOT SOMEBODY I WOULD

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WANT INVESTIGATING SENATOR-ELECT

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HAWLEY.

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BUT IT WORKS FOR JAY

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ASHCROFT.

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FIRST OF ALL, WE ALWAYS TALK

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ABOUT BIPARTISANSHIP AND TO

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CORRECT YOU, BY THE WAY, WHAT'S

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GOING ON IN WASHINGTON IS THE

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CRIMINAL PROSECUTION OF

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SOMEONE --

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LET'S STAY HERE.

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LET'S NOT LET THAT PASS.

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BUT THE POINT IS THIS IS JAY

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ASHCRO

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ASHCROFT, TO HIS CREDIT -- AND

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I'M NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF

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PRAISING ASHCROFT OVER THE

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YEARS.

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TO HIS CREDIT AND THE

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ASTONISHMENT OF REPUBLICAN

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FRIENDS OF MINE, IS HAVING THE

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INDEPENDENCE AND --

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IT'S NOT ASHCROFT.

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IT'S HEISINGER WHO WORKS FOR

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HIM.

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SHE'S SUPPOSED TO LEAVE THE

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PLANET?

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THE OTHER THING HE'S DOING VERY

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POSITIVE IS HE BROUGHT IN NICOLE

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GALLAWAY WITH HER SUBPOENA

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POWER, WHICH WOULD DISPROVE ANY

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CONSPIRACY THEORY.

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SHE'S A STATE OFFICIAL,

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BUT --

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THIS LOOKS LIKE A REAL

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INVESTIGATION.

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I THINK, FIRST OF ALL, I

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DON'T SEE HAWLEY AS THE OPPOSITE

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OF GREITENS.

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I SEE HAWLEY AS --

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IN THE SAME VEIN.

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GREITENS WITHOUT A MILITARY

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RESUME.

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I THINK THAT YOU'RE WRONG, RAY,

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ON THE IDEA THAT THERE'S NOTHING

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WONG WITH SOMEBODY WHO GIVES TO

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DEMOCRATS INVESTIGATING A

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REPUBLICAN.

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IF IT WERE VICE VERSA, WE'D BE

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UPSET.

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[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ]

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I THOUGHT IT WAS COMPLETELY

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BIZARRE THAT ASHCROFT ANNOUNCED

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HE WAS GOING TO GET THE AUDITOR

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INVOLVED BECAUSE SHE HAS

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SUBPOENA POWERS.

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IF I'M A REPUBLICAN, I SAY WE

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JUST LOST OUR GOVERNOR AND NOW

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YOU'RE GOING TO GET A DEMOCRAT

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START SUBPOENAING ON OUR

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SENATORS?

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WHY IS THAT A BAD THING?

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I WOULD RATHER SEE SOMEBODY

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INVESTIGATING WHO HADN'T GIVE

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HAVEN'T MONEY TO EITHER OF THEM.

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WHAT DIFFERENCE --

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IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

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THE APPEARANCE OF

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IMPROPRIETY.

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HOW MANY MEMBERS OF THE BAR ARE

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THERE IN MISSOURI?

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DID YOU HAVE TO FIND ONE TO

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INVESTIGATE WHO GAVE $24,000 TO

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DEMOCRATS, INCLUDING CLAIRE

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McCASKILL?

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ARE YOU SAYING THAT ANYONE

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WHO GAVE MONEY TO A CANDIDATE

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SHOULD BE DISQUALIFIED FOR BEING

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AN ATTORNEY --

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NO, WHAT HE'S SAYING OR I'M

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SAYING --

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-- FOR THE GOVERNMENT?

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IT'S THE APPEARANCE.

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LET ALVIN TALK A MINUTE.

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IN ALL HONESTY, IF WE FLIPPED

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THE PARTY HERE, YOU WOULDN'T

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HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?

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NOT IF IT'S A DEMOCRAT --

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EXCUSE ME A DEMOCRAT HIRED A

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REPUBLICAN TO INVESTIGATE

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ANOTHER DEMOCRAT?

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NO, I -- THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE

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SHOULD WANT IS TO NOT HAVE PARTY

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LINES AND SEE IT AS SOME SCANDAL

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THAT SHE GAVE MONEY --

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IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN

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INVESTIGATION SUCCEED, YOU DON'T

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WANT THE INVESTIGATOR TO BE A

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KNOWN ENEMY, GIVING MONEY TO THE

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OPPONENT OF THE GUY YOU'RE

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INVESTIGATING.

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BUT THE REPUBLICANS --

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[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ]

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WE KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW,

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TRYING TO OVERTURN ELECTIONS.

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I THINK ONE THING I WOULD HAVE

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DONE IF I WAS ASHCROFT, SAY

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THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN

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INVESTIGATION INTO THIS, BUT BAY

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THE WAY, HE'S STILL -- BY THE

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WAY, HE'S STILL GOING TO BE THE

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SENATOR.

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THE WORST THING THAT HAPPENS TO

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ME IS HE GETS A FINE.

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ANYBODY WHO'S LICKING THEIR

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CHOPS, THAT'S OVER.

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I'M NOT GOING TO APPOINT A

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DEMOCRAT TO INVESTIGATE HIM, BUT

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NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN

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EXCEPT HIM GETTING SWORN IN IN

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JANUARY.

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CHARLIE, THE REAL INTRIGUE,

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AND I KNOW IT'S MORE FOR

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POLITICAL JUNKIES IS THE WHOLE

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DYNAMIC BETWEEN ASHCROFT AND

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ERIC SCHMIDT AND WHAT WAS

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BELIEVED TO BE A RIVALRY FOR THE

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ATTORNEY GENERAL SPOT IF HAWLEY

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WAS TO WIN THE ELECTION.

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THERE'S A LOT OF POLITICAL

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INTRIGUE AND THE PEOPLE -- I'M

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JUST SHOCKED THAT EVERYBODY IS

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LIKE, WE TALK ABOUT

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BIPARTISANSHIP AND IT BOTHERS

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YOU THAT A REPUBLICAN PICKS

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SOMEBODY WHO GAVE TO A DEMOCRAT

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TO INVESTIGATE SOMEBODY.

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I DON'T THINK THAT'S WRONG AT

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ALL.

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IF SOMEBODY WAS --

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IF IT WAS IN REVERSE, IT

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WOULD BE FINE.

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OH, COME ON, RAY.

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IT WOULD.

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IF SOMEBODY WHO GAVE MONEY TO

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THE REPUBLICANS WERE

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INVESTIGATING OUR NEWLY ELECTED

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DEMOCRATIC SENATOR, YOU'D SAY

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THAT'S FINE.

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I WOULD.

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LET'S MOVE ON, BILL.

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I WANT TO ASK YOU, SPEAKING OF

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GETTING HOT UNDER THE COLLAR, I

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WAS THIS WEEK WHEN I SAW ONE OF

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YOUR COLLEAGUES IN A PAGE A-2

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STORY TAKE A LOOK AT A LADUE

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KID, A STUDENT AT LADUE HIGH

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SCHOOL, WHO WAS FLASHING THE

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OKAY SIGN.

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I THINK IT WAS PART OF A RALLY

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FOR THE FOOTBALL TEAM.

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AS WE KNOW, THE LADUE RAMS

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PLAYED IN THE STATE

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CHAMPIONSHIP.

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AND THE RAMS WON.

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THE RAMS WON, YEAH.

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IT WAS THE RAMS AGAINST THE

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RAMS.

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HERE'S THE DEAL.

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THE OKAY SIGN AS UBIQUITOUS

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SIGN, BUT THE STORY SEEMED TO

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INDICATE THAT IT WAS ASSOCIATED

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WITH WHITE NATIONALISM, EVEN

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THOUGH WE WEREN'T THROUGH THIS

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DURING THE KAVANAUGH HEARINGS

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WHEN THERE WAS AN ATTORNEY

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BEHIND JUDGE KAVANAUGH WHO HAD

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SOMETHING SIMILAR, THE OKAY

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SIGN, AND THE ANTIDEFAMATION

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LEAGUE SAID NO, UNLESS YOU SEE

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OTHER OVERT SIGNS OF WHITE

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NATIONALISM, THAT OKAY SIGN,

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WHICH HAS BEEN USED BY BILL

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CLINTON AND HILLARY CLINTON AND

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BARACK OBAMA, IS NOT A SIGN OF

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WHITE NATIONALISM.

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DON'T YOU THINK THIS IS A SMEAR

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OF THE LADUE HIGH SCHOOL

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STUDENT?

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NO, I DON'T, AND I SHOULD SAY

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ABOUT THESE SIGNS, THE ONLY --

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THE VICTORY SIGN, PEACE SIGN IS

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ALL -- THE ONLY ONE I GO, BUT I

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HAVE HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, WHITE

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NATIONALISTS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO

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USURP THE OKAY SIGN AND I KNEW

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NOTHING ABOUT IT BEFOREHAND, BUT

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WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PAPER WAS

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SOMEBODY CALLED THE REPORTER,

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DAVID HUNT, AND SAID THERE'S A

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KID ON THE LADUE WEBSITE

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FLASHING THE -- WHAT WHITE

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NATIONALISTS ARE USING AS A

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SIGN, AND SO HUNDRED HUNT SAID

519
00:15:19,433 --> 00:15:20,333
OKAY AND HE LOOKED UNDER THE

520
00:15:20,433 --> 00:15:22,066
WEBSITE AND IT WAS GONE.

521
00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,266
SO HE CALLED AND THE LADUE

522
00:15:24,366 --> 00:15:25,500
PEOPLE SAID WE TOOK THAT DOWN

523
00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:26,500
BECAUSE WE HEARD FROM SOMEBODY

524
00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,200
ELSE IN THE MEDIA THAT THIS IS A

525
00:15:28,333 --> 00:15:29,366
WHITE POWER SIGN.

526
00:15:29,466 --> 00:15:35,366
SO IT WASN'T LIKE THE PAPER

527
00:15:35,466 --> 00:15:37,000
GEMMED THIS UP AND NOW THE WAY

528
00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:38,300
IS SHOULD IT HAVE BEEN RUN.

529
00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,466
CERTAINLY YOU'RE NOT IDENTIFYING

530
00:15:39,566 --> 00:15:44,433
THE LADUE KID AND IN FACT, HE

531
00:15:44,533 --> 00:15:45,500
WAS NOT IDENTIFIED IN THE

532
00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:45,766
PICTURE.

533
00:15:46,066 --> 00:15:47,433
I'M TOLD HE WASN'T SMILING LIKE,

534
00:15:47,533 --> 00:15:48,666
HEY, EVERYTHING IS OKAY.

535
00:15:48,766 --> 00:15:49,766
HE WAS KIND OF SOMBER AND

536
00:15:50,100 --> 00:15:51,166
FLASHING THAT SIGN.

537
00:15:51,266 --> 00:15:53,333
I HAD NEVER HEAR THAT THE OKAY

538
00:15:53,433 --> 00:15:55,433
SIGN WAS A WHITE SYMBOLISM SIGN,

539
00:15:55,533 --> 00:15:57,400
BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE KAVANAUGH

540
00:15:57,500 --> 00:16:00,133
HEARING, THERE'S THAT PERSON

541
00:16:00,233 --> 00:16:04,366
LIKE THIS AND MAYBE THEY'RE

542
00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:05,266
TROLLING LIBERALS, I DON'T KNOW

543
00:16:05,366 --> 00:16:06,266
WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

544
00:16:06,366 --> 00:16:08,200
BUT SOMETHING IS GOING ON.

545
00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:14,266
WITH THE TIKI TORCHES TO THOSE

546
00:16:14,366 --> 00:16:19,733
KIDS IN WISCONSIN WITH THE

547
00:16:20,033 --> 00:16:20,200
SIGHEIL.

548
00:16:20,300 --> 00:16:22,666
PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN THE MOVIE

549
00:16:22,766 --> 00:16:24,366
CABARET AND THINK SOMETHING IS

550
00:16:24,466 --> 00:16:26,566
GOING ON, MAYBE IT SHOULD BE

551
00:16:26,666 --> 00:16:27,466
REPORTED, I DON'T KNOW.

552
00:16:27,566 --> 00:16:29,700
I THINK ON THE HEELS OF THE

553
00:16:29,766 --> 00:16:31,333
COMPLAINT IN 2016 ON THE SCHOOL

554
00:16:31,466 --> 00:16:36,366
BUS, YOU KNOW, THE KID WHO SAID

555
00:16:36,500 --> 00:16:39,233
THAT SHE WAS BEING VICTIMIZED BY

556
00:16:39,333 --> 00:16:41,066
RACIST -- RACIAL, RACIST

557
00:16:41,166 --> 00:16:43,166
COMMENTS, AND I THINK THAT --

558
00:16:43,266 --> 00:16:45,266
YOU KNOW, THAT'S RECENT HISTORY.

559
00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,600
I'M SURE THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF

560
00:16:47,700 --> 00:16:48,333
SENSITIVITY HERE.

561
00:16:48,433 --> 00:16:49,633
THERE'S A BACK STORY TO THIS

562
00:16:49,733 --> 00:16:51,000
AND I DON'T KNOW WHO CALLED THE

563
00:16:51,133 --> 00:16:51,400
POST-DISPATCH.

564
00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:56,200
HOWEVER, JUST A MONTH AGO,

565
00:16:56,300 --> 00:16:57,766
MICBS'S FOOTBALL PLAYERS WERE

566
00:16:58,100 --> 00:16:59,700
ACCUSED BY PARKWAY NORTH OF

567
00:16:59,766 --> 00:17:01,300
UNLEASHING A LOT OF N-BOMBS TO

568
00:17:01,433 --> 00:17:02,566
THEM DURING A FOOTBALL GAME.

569
00:17:02,666 --> 00:17:04,266
IT WAS A REALLY BAD SCENE OVER

570
00:17:04,366 --> 00:17:04,500
THERE.

571
00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,733
THIS COMES IN THE WAKE OF THAT.

572
00:17:07,066 --> 00:17:10,233
WHO IS LADUE PLAYING BUT MIBCS.

573
00:17:10,333 --> 00:17:11,500
PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES WERE

574
00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:12,300
COMPLAINING ON THAT ONE.

575
00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,366
I KNOW THAT, BUT I'M

576
00:17:14,466 --> 00:17:15,766
SAYING --

577
00:17:16,066 --> 00:17:19,266
WHEN XENA BASH, I THINK

578
00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,666
THAT'S HER NAME, THE ATTORNEY

579
00:17:20,766 --> 00:17:21,633
WHO DID THIS DURING THE

580
00:17:21,733 --> 00:17:23,233
KAVANAUGH HEARINGS, IT WAS

581
00:17:23,333 --> 00:17:25,400
INVESTIGATED WIDELY BY THE

582
00:17:25,533 --> 00:17:26,700
WASHINGTON POST AND OTHERS AND

583
00:17:27,033 --> 00:17:30,433
THEY FOUND OUT THAT IT IS TRUE,

584
00:17:30,566 --> 00:17:33,600
THERE WERE A GROUP OF TROLLS WHO

585
00:17:33,700 --> 00:17:35,266
PERSONALLY TRIED ERRONEOUSLY TO

586
00:17:35,366 --> 00:17:37,066
FAKE OUT THE LIBERAL MEDIA BY

587
00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,500
FLASHING OKAY SIGNS AND

588
00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:39,400
ASSOCIATING IT WITH WHITE

589
00:17:39,500 --> 00:17:40,200
NATIONALISM WHICH TURNED OUT TO

590
00:17:40,300 --> 00:17:41,066
BE A HOAX.

591
00:17:41,166 --> 00:17:42,200
IT WHAT AS JOKE.

592
00:17:42,300 --> 00:17:44,366
NOW -- IT WAS A JOKE.

593
00:17:44,466 --> 00:17:45,400
NOW, THERE'S SOME WHITE

594
00:17:45,500 --> 00:17:46,600
NATIONALISTS WHO ARE TOO DUMB TO

595
00:17:46,700 --> 00:17:48,500
REALIZE IT WAS A HOAX AND THEY

596
00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:49,633
MIGHTITE, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR

597
00:17:49,733 --> 00:17:51,533
CASE AS IN SO MANY OTHERS, IT

598
00:17:51,633 --> 00:17:54,766
COULD ALSO JUST BE OKAY, WHICH A

599
00:17:55,100 --> 00:17:55,466
UBIQUITOUS SYMBOL.

600
00:17:55,566 --> 00:17:57,500
NOBODY IS SAYING THEY KNOW

601
00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:58,566
WHAT WAS IN THE MIND THEREFORE

602
00:17:58,666 --> 00:18:00,033
STUDENT FROM LADUE AND HIS PURR

603
00:18:00,133 --> 00:18:02,166
WAS BLACKED OUT, BUT IF -- HIS

604
00:18:02,266 --> 00:18:04,100
PICTURE WAS BLACKED OUT, BUT IF

605
00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,300
YOU THINK THAT SOMETHING IS

606
00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,100
GOING ON IN THE COUNTRY,

607
00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:07,766
SOMETHING A LITTLE WEIRD --

608
00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:08,766
I REALIZE THAT THIS IS OFF

609
00:18:09,100 --> 00:18:10,466
THE BEATEN PATH OF DONNYBROOK,

610
00:18:10,566 --> 00:18:13,300
BUT BEYONCE AND JAY Z HAVE BEEN

611
00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,033
ACCUSED REPEATEDLY OF BEING

612
00:18:16,133 --> 00:18:18,100
MEMBERS OF THE OF THE

613
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,100
ILLUMINATI, SO AFTER THE WHILE,

614
00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,766
THEY STARTED MAKING THE SIGN

615
00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:22,033
EVERY TIME A PHOTOGRAPHER TOOK

616
00:18:22,133 --> 00:18:24,233
THEIR PICTURE JUST TO KIND OF,

617
00:18:24,366 --> 00:18:25,533
YOU KNOW, BAIT THE PRESS --

618
00:18:25,633 --> 00:18:27,200
THAT DID HAPPEN.

619
00:18:27,300 --> 00:18:28,333
RIGHT.

620
00:18:28,433 --> 00:18:30,133
I'M A LIBERAL -- I'M SORRY.

621
00:18:30,233 --> 00:18:30,500
GO AHEAD.

622
00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:31,133
GO AHEAD.

623
00:18:31,266 --> 00:18:33,500
I'M A LIBERAL WHO'S TIRED OF

624
00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,566
THESE ISSUES AND TIRED OF THE

625
00:18:34,666 --> 00:18:38,300
JUST -- YOU KNOW, AS A CIVIL

626
00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,300
LIBERTARIAN, I'M JUST TIRED OF

627
00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,266
THESE ISSUES, FRANKLY, BUT IF

628
00:18:41,366 --> 00:18:42,766
YOU WORK FOR A NEWSPAPER AND

629
00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:45,600
YOU'RE A REPORTER AND YOU GET A

630
00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:47,700
LEAD AND THEN YOU FIND SOMETHING

631
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,366
THAT WAS TAKEN DOWN, IT'S START

632
00:18:50,466 --> 00:18:52,633
OF NOT -- IT'S NOT THE SORT OF

633
00:18:52,766 --> 00:18:54,333
THING YOU JUST DROP.

634
00:18:54,433 --> 00:18:58,233
BUT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH --

635
00:18:58,333 --> 00:18:59,433
THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

636
00:18:59,533 --> 00:19:01,266
I DO DISAGREE WITH BILL.

637
00:19:01,366 --> 00:19:02,466
I THINK THE KID CAN BE

638
00:19:02,566 --> 00:19:03,700
IDENTIFIED EVEN THOUGH HIS FACE

639
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,033
WAS BLOCKED OUT, LIKE BY HIS

640
00:19:06,133 --> 00:19:07,366
FRIENDS WHERE I'M SURE IN THE

641
00:19:07,466 --> 00:19:09,133
LADUE AREA, HE IS LIKE, OKAY, WE

642
00:19:09,233 --> 00:19:12,066
KNOW WHO THIS IS AND HE'S BEEN

643
00:19:12,166 --> 00:19:15,133
ASSOCIATED WITH WHITE

644
00:19:15,233 --> 00:19:16,200
NATIONALISM, EVEN THOUGH HE'S

645
00:19:16,333 --> 00:19:18,200
GIVING A UBIQUITOUS SIGN AND I

646
00:19:18,333 --> 00:19:20,366
THINK THE MEDIA IN GENERAL

647
00:19:20,466 --> 00:19:21,366
SHOULD RETHINK ITS INVESTIGATION

648
00:19:21,466 --> 00:19:22,433
OF KIDS AT SCHOOL.

649
00:19:22,533 --> 00:19:23,533
THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE

650
00:19:23,633 --> 00:19:26,166
NEWSPAPERS WERE NOT CONCENTRATED

651
00:19:26,266 --> 00:19:27,333
ON THESE STORIES, BY AND LARGE,

652
00:19:27,433 --> 00:19:28,700
AND NOW I THINK THAT KIDS SHOULD

653
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,300
HAVE A CERTAIN PROTECTION WHEN

654
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:31,100
THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING WITHIN

655
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,400
THE CONFINES OF A SCHOOL.

656
00:19:33,500 --> 00:19:34,666
THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT

657
00:19:34,766 --> 00:19:36,266
AND YOU MIGHT RIGHT, BUT WHAT

658
00:19:36,366 --> 00:19:37,400
GOOD THAT RECENT CASE IN

659
00:19:37,533 --> 00:19:37,700
WISCONSIN.

660
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,400
DID YOU SEE THAT PICTURE ALL THE

661
00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:47,300
KIDS ARE GIVING THE SIG HEIL

662
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:47,766
BEFORE THE PROM?

663
00:19:48,066 --> 00:19:50,333
IT NOT A LOT OF PUBLICITY AND

664
00:19:50,433 --> 00:19:52,200
THOSE KIDS' FACES WERE CLEARLY

665
00:19:52,333 --> 00:19:53,766
IDENTIFIED AND YOU LOOK AT IT

666
00:19:54,066 --> 00:19:56,266
AND YOU GO, GEE, THIS IS REALLY

667
00:19:56,366 --> 00:19:56,566
STRANGE.

668
00:19:56,666 --> 00:19:57,533
I WILL AGREE WITH YOU.

669
00:19:57,633 --> 00:19:59,066
I THOUGHT THE KID WASN'T

670
00:19:59,166 --> 00:19:59,400
IDENTIFIABLE.

671
00:19:59,500 --> 00:20:00,766
IF HE WASN'T, THAT'S A DIFFERENT

672
00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:01,233
STORY.

673
00:20:01,333 --> 00:20:02,233
I DON'T THINK HE SHOULD HAVE

674
00:20:02,333 --> 00:20:02,466
BEEN.

675
00:20:02,566 --> 00:20:05,166
WELL, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE --

676
00:20:05,266 --> 00:20:09,700
YOU'RE SAYING IF HE WAS

677
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:10,766
IDENTIFIABLE -- THERE'S NO WAY

678
00:20:11,066 --> 00:20:11,500
HE SHOULD BE.

679
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,300
IT COULD BE THOSE CLOSEST TO

680
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:14,300
YOU THAT KNOW YOU WERE THE

681
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,633
PERSON THEY'RE TALKING ABOUTS IT

682
00:20:15,733 --> 00:20:17,166
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE GREATER

683
00:20:17,266 --> 00:20:17,400
GOOD.

684
00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:19,066
I THINK THE STORY COVER

685
00:20:19,166 --> 00:20:20,633
SERVED ITS READERS WELL BY

686
00:20:20,733 --> 00:20:22,733
NOTING THAT THE ANTI-DEFAMATION

687
00:20:23,066 --> 00:20:23,733
LEAGUE OF ALL ORGANIZATIONS --

688
00:20:24,033 --> 00:20:25,166
I THOUGHT IT DID.

689
00:20:25,266 --> 00:20:26,666
NO, IT DID.

690
00:20:26,766 --> 00:20:28,233
IT LOOKED TO THE SOUTHERN

691
00:20:28,333 --> 00:20:29,633
POVERTY LAW CENTER THAT SAID IT

692
00:20:29,733 --> 00:20:33,300
WAS A HOAX, BUT THE ADL SAID

693
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,500
THIS IS NOT A SIGN OF WHITE

694
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,000
NATIONALISM.

695
00:20:36,100 --> 00:20:37,500
ANYWAY, OKAY, LET'S GO ON TO

696
00:20:37,633 --> 00:20:38,400
YOU, RAY.

697
00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:40,066
I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT A ST.

698
00:20:40,166 --> 00:20:41,266
CHARLES LAWMAKER WHO WANTS TO

699
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,500
END THE EARNINGS TAX IN THE CITY

700
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,166
OF ST. LOUIS.

701
00:20:43,266 --> 00:20:44,433
WHAT'S OLD IS NEW AGAIN.

702
00:20:44,533 --> 00:20:46,466
ACTUALLY, THE VOTERS IN THE CITY

703
00:20:46,566 --> 00:20:49,333
OF ST. LOUIS DO VOTE ON THE

704
00:20:49,433 --> 00:20:51,033
EARNINGS TAX EVERY FIVE YEARS BY

705
00:20:51,166 --> 00:20:51,366
STATE LAW.

706
00:20:51,466 --> 00:20:51,733
EXACTLY.

707
00:20:52,033 --> 00:20:52,433
OKAY.

708
00:20:52,533 --> 00:20:53,566
I DON'T THINK THE EARNINGS TAX

709
00:20:53,700 --> 00:20:55,733
IS ACTUALLY ATTRACTING PEOPLE.

710
00:20:56,066 --> 00:20:58,466
WHEN I GOT HERE IN 1988, WE HAD,

711
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,100
WHAT, 400,000 PEOPLE IN THE CITY

712
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,400
OF ST. LOUIS AND NOW WE'RE DOWN

713
00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:02,433
TO 300,000.

714
00:21:02,533 --> 00:21:03,666
WHATEVER IT'S DOING, NOT

715
00:21:03,766 --> 00:21:05,066
ATTRACTING PEOPLE AND JOBS, BUT

716
00:21:05,166 --> 00:21:05,766
WHAT DO YOU THINK?

717
00:21:06,066 --> 00:21:07,400
WHAT I THINK IS THAT THE

718
00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:09,266
VOTERS OF THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS

719
00:21:09,366 --> 00:21:11,133
AND THE CITY OF KANSAS CITY

720
00:21:11,233 --> 00:21:12,400
VOTED ON THIS TOPIC AND IT'S A

721
00:21:12,533 --> 00:21:13,533
LOT MORE IMPORTANT WHAT THEY

722
00:21:13,633 --> 00:21:15,100
THINK THAN WHAT ANY OF US THINK,

723
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,666
AND THAT GOES FOR WHETHER WE

724
00:21:16,766 --> 00:21:21,266
LIVE IN THE CITY OR NOT.

725
00:21:21,366 --> 00:21:25,300
THEY VOTED BY 80% MARGINS IN

726
00:21:25,433 --> 00:21:27,033
CITY, ROUGHLY IN ST. LOUIS AND

727
00:21:27,133 --> 00:21:28,033
KANSAS CITY, AND LAID THIS ISSUE

728
00:21:28,166 --> 00:21:28,633
TO REST.

729
00:21:28,733 --> 00:21:30,333
IT WAS BROUGHT UPON US, A

730
00:21:30,433 --> 00:21:31,366
HORRIBLE THING AND BROUGHT POP

731
00:21:31,466 --> 00:21:32,466
US BY REX SINQUEFIELD WHO

732
00:21:32,566 --> 00:21:34,633
PERHAPS IS GOING TO FIND A WAY

733
00:21:34,733 --> 00:21:37,133
TO SUPPORT THIS FINE STATE

734
00:21:37,233 --> 00:21:38,033
SENATOR IN ST. CHARLES.

735
00:21:38,133 --> 00:21:41,100
THE BIGGER -- THIS IS PART OF A

736
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,533
BIGGER TREND THAT CONCERNS ME

737
00:21:43,633 --> 00:21:45,366
AND IN 2020, THERE'S GOING TO BE

738
00:21:45,466 --> 00:21:48,100
A MOVEMENT AFOOT FOR A STATEWIDE

739
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,133
VOTE ON A CITY-COUNTY MERGER OF

740
00:21:51,233 --> 00:21:56,100
SOME SORT TO FORCE A MERGER OR

741
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,700
UNI-GOV OR SOMETHING ON THE CITY

742
00:21:57,766 --> 00:21:59,500
AND COUNTY USING THE RURAL VOTE

743
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,366
AGAINST THE CITY AND COUNTY'S

744
00:22:02,466 --> 00:22:02,700
INTEREST.

745
00:22:02,766 --> 00:22:05,200
THE LARGER ISSUE HERE IS

746
00:22:05,300 --> 00:22:05,600
SELF-DETERMINATION.

747
00:22:05,733 --> 00:22:06,733
THE WORST THING ABOUT WHAT REX

748
00:22:07,066 --> 00:22:09,066
SINQUEFIELD DID TO US WITH THE

749
00:22:09,166 --> 00:22:12,000
CITY EARNINGS TAX IS CITIES LIKE

750
00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:13,766
COLUMBIA, SPRINGFIELD, CAPE

751
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:15,166
GIRARDEAU, HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO

752
00:22:15,266 --> 00:22:16,200
AN EARNINGS TAX NOW BECAUSE OF

753
00:22:16,300 --> 00:22:17,266
THE REST OF THE STATE.

754
00:22:17,366 --> 00:22:17,766
THAT'S CRAZY.

755
00:22:18,100 --> 00:22:20,566
ONE WOULD THINK THAT A

756
00:22:20,666 --> 00:22:21,666
REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE, WHEN THE

757
00:22:21,766 --> 00:22:24,133
REPUBLICANS TRADITIONALLY WERE

758
00:22:24,233 --> 00:22:27,300
ALL ABOUT LOCAL AUTONOMY, WOULD

759
00:22:27,433 --> 00:22:29,366
BE LOATHE TO COME UP WITH AN

760
00:22:29,466 --> 00:22:31,033
IDEA OF THE STATE WILL TELL

761
00:22:31,133 --> 00:22:32,100
LOCALS WHAT TO DO.

762
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:32,566
EXACTLY.

763
00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:35,533
I MEAN, LIKE YOU SAY, RAY, IF

764
00:22:35,633 --> 00:22:37,566
ST. LOUIS AND KANSAS CITY SAY WE

765
00:22:37,666 --> 00:22:40,066
NEED AN EARNINGS TAX, AND WE

766
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,433
WANT ONE, THAT'S ENOUGH.

767
00:22:41,533 --> 00:22:43,366
BACKING UP WHAT RAY SAID, ON

768
00:22:43,466 --> 00:22:45,100
THE PROGRAM I WAS ON TODAY,

769
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,166
RODNEY BOYD WAS ON WITH ME

770
00:22:47,266 --> 00:22:48,100
TODAY, KIND OF LIKE POLITICAL

771
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,500
INSIDE YES, MODERATE

772
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,700
REPUBLICAN -- NIDEER,

773
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,433
MODERATE -- INSIDER, MODERATE

774
00:22:54,533 --> 00:22:56,533
REPUBLICAN, HE HINTED THAT THE

775
00:22:56,666 --> 00:22:58,333
STORY GOING INTO 19 AND HEADING

776
00:22:58,433 --> 00:22:59,500
INTO 2020 IS GOING TO BE EXACTLY

777
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:00,300
LIKE YOU SAID.

778
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,500
THERE IS GOING TO BE A MOVE TO

779
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,566
FORCE A VOTE ON THE COUNTY AND

780
00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:03,366
THE CITY.

781
00:23:03,466 --> 00:23:05,233
AND I THINK DEMOCRATS AND

782
00:23:05,333 --> 00:23:07,166
REPUBLICANS WILL LIKE IT, OR AT

783
00:23:07,300 --> 00:23:08,733
LEAST THE REX SINQUEFIELD CROWD

784
00:23:09,066 --> 00:23:09,666
LIKES THAT BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE

785
00:23:09,766 --> 00:23:11,100
IN YOU CHANGE THE CHARTER FOR

786
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,200
THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS, WHICH

787
00:23:12,300 --> 00:23:14,100
WOULD CHANGE IF WE HAD THE

788
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,200
MERGER, THE EARNINGS TAX WILL BE

789
00:23:15,333 --> 00:23:15,466
NULL.

790
00:23:15,566 --> 00:23:16,066
BUT THAT'S --

791
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,300
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE --

792
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,533
PEOPLE ARE UNDERESTIMATING

793
00:23:18,633 --> 00:23:19,766
WHAT PEOPLE IN MY NECK OF THE

794
00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:20,766
WOODS THINK OF THIS.

795
00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:23,433
BUT AGAIN, AREN'T WE

796
00:23:23,533 --> 00:23:26,333
OVERTURNING OR IGNORING THE WILL

797
00:23:26,433 --> 00:23:27,666
OF THE PEOPLE --

798
00:23:27,766 --> 00:23:28,600
ABSOLUTELY.

799
00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:30,400
-- AND THIS CONTINUES TO

800
00:23:30,500 --> 00:23:31,300
HAPPEN REPEATLY.

801
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,233
I THINK THE REASON IS THERE

802
00:23:33,333 --> 00:23:34,600
ARE LAWMAKERS LIKE THIS GUY IN

803
00:23:34,700 --> 00:23:36,400
ST. CHARLES WHO THINK THAT THE

804
00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:37,433
EARNINGS TAX THE HURTING THE

805
00:23:37,533 --> 00:23:39,700
CITY AND THE CITY IS INCREDIBLY

806
00:23:39,766 --> 00:23:40,666
IMPORTANT FOR THE REGION, AND WE

807
00:23:40,766 --> 00:23:42,233
WERE TALKING ABOUT AUSTIN.

808
00:23:42,333 --> 00:23:43,333
THE STATE HAS NO --

809
00:23:43,433 --> 00:23:44,300
BUT THIS IS --

810
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,666
-- INCOME TAX AND NO EARNINGS

811
00:23:45,766 --> 00:23:47,100
TAX AND THERE'S SOMETHING TO

812
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:47,333
THAT.

813
00:23:47,466 --> 00:23:48,366
PEOPLE MOVE OUT OF THE CITY

814
00:23:48,466 --> 00:23:50,066
BECAUSE OF THAT EARNINGS TAX.

815
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,766
BUT HOPEFULLY THE COUNTRY --

816
00:23:52,066 --> 00:23:53,300
BUT PEOPLE TELL ME ALMOST

817
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,700
DAILY THAT THEY COULD CARE LESS

818
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,433
ABOUT THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS, SO

819
00:23:56,533 --> 00:23:58,000
WHY ALL OF AN ALL OF A SUDDEN --

820
00:23:58,133 --> 00:23:59,066
YOU REALLY BELIEVE PEOPLE

821
00:23:59,166 --> 00:24:01,133
MOVE OUT OF CITY OF ST. LOUIS

822
00:24:01,233 --> 00:24:01,766
SOLELY BECAUSE THE EARNINGS TAX.

823
00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:05,533
I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WHO DID.

824
00:24:05,633 --> 00:24:08,233
TOM JACOBSON, HE WASSED HET OF

825
00:24:08,333 --> 00:24:10,433
U.S. BANK -- HE THE HEAD OF U.S.

826
00:24:10,566 --> 00:24:12,366
BANK AT THE TIME, HE MOVED.

827
00:24:12,466 --> 00:24:13,700
LET'S NOT SAY WE'RE ALL LIKE

828
00:24:14,033 --> 00:24:15,733
THE BANK PRESIDENTS.

829
00:24:16,033 --> 00:24:18,733
ONE OF THE OLDEST PRINCIPLES

830
00:24:19,033 --> 00:24:20,200
OF THE COUNTRY IS TO BE

831
00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:21,166
CONCERNED ABOUT TAXATION WITHOUT

832
00:24:21,266 --> 00:24:23,633
REPRESENTATION AND IT WORKS IN

833
00:24:23,733 --> 00:24:24,400
REVERSE TOO.

834
00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:26,300
BUT A WORKER IN THE CITY IS

835
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:26,566
TAXED.

836
00:24:26,666 --> 00:24:27,633
WELL, AND THE STATE --

837
00:24:27,733 --> 00:24:29,500
THEY CAN'T VOTE ON IT.

838
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,600
THE POINT OF THAT, WHICH HAS

839
00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:34,200
PERFECT LOGIC TO IT -- AND I

840
00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:35,666
WISH WE COULD GET AWAY WITH THIS

841
00:24:35,766 --> 00:24:37,633
WE IN THE CITY AND THEY IN ST.

842
00:24:37,733 --> 00:24:38,100
CHARLES.

843
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,500
WE TALK ABOUT ST. CLAIR COUNTY.

844
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,366
IT'S ONE REGION.

845
00:24:40,466 --> 00:24:42,566
BUT THE CITY HAS A RIGHT TO --

846
00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:44,266
LET ME FOCUS ON -- WE HAVE

847
00:24:44,366 --> 00:24:46,033
LESS THAN TWO MINUTES TO GO.

848
00:24:46,166 --> 00:24:46,300
THANKS.

849
00:24:46,433 --> 00:24:47,566
I KNOW THERE ARE GOING TO BE A

850
00:24:47,700 --> 00:24:49,733
LOT OF CALLS ON THIS AND OTHER

851
00:24:50,033 --> 00:24:50,366
ISSUES.

852
00:24:50,466 --> 00:24:52,100
ALVIN, THE RIVERFRONT TIMES HAD

853
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,466
A FRONT PAGE STORY SAYING THERE

854
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,300
ARE RESTAURANTS IN ELLISVILLE

855
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,133
AND ELSEWHERE THAT CAN'T FIND

856
00:24:57,233 --> 00:24:58,300
WORKERS AND THEY SAY IT'S

857
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,000
PROBABLY A TRANSPORTATION

858
00:24:59,100 --> 00:24:59,733
PROBLEM GETTING PEOPLE FROM THE

859
00:25:00,033 --> 00:25:01,033
CITY OUT THERE.

860
00:25:01,133 --> 00:25:02,133
DO YOU THINK THAT'S THE REAL

861
00:25:02,233 --> 00:25:02,400
REASON?

862
00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:03,566
THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THE

863
00:25:03,666 --> 00:25:04,033
PROBLEM.

864
00:25:04,133 --> 00:25:05,633
YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY IF WE HAD A

865
00:25:05,766 --> 00:25:06,666
REAL MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM, THAT

866
00:25:06,766 --> 00:25:08,366
WOULD HELP, BUT QUITE FRANKLY,

867
00:25:08,466 --> 00:25:10,200
AT NO TIME WHEN I WAS GROWING

868
00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:11,766
UP, I'M 58 NOW, A GENERATION

869
00:25:12,066 --> 00:25:13,566
BEHIND ME OR WHATEVER, AT NO

870
00:25:13,666 --> 00:25:14,700
TIME WERE THERE A NEED FOR

871
00:25:15,033 --> 00:25:15,766
PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY TO

872
00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:17,233
COME OUT AND WORK AT RESTAURANTS

873
00:25:17,333 --> 00:25:18,566
IN THE COUNTY.

874
00:25:18,666 --> 00:25:20,433
YOUNGER PEOPLE HUSTLED, GOT A

875
00:25:20,533 --> 00:25:21,100
JOB, GOT BUSY.

876
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,466
THAT'S MISSING RIGHT NOW.

877
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,200
AND THAT IDEA OF WORKING IN A

878
00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:26,266
RESTAURANT AND I'M LIKE 17, 18

879
00:25:26,366 --> 00:25:28,733
YEARS OLD, IT'S NOT THERE.

880
00:25:29,066 --> 00:25:29,600
I DON'T KNOW IF IT GOES BACK TO

881
00:25:29,700 --> 00:25:31,600
THAT WORK ETHIC OR THIS

882
00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:33,000
MILLENNIALS OR WHATEVER, BUT

883
00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:34,066
QUITE FRANKLY, THE PEOPLE ARE

884
00:25:34,166 --> 00:25:35,433
THERE THAT CAN FILL THE JOBS AND

885
00:25:35,533 --> 00:25:37,000
GET PAID.

886
00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:38,700
THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO DO IT.

887
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,100
ONE OF THE REASONS IS YOU

888
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,400
HAVE TO DO COMMUNITY SERVICE FOR

889
00:25:41,500 --> 00:25:42,266
YOUR COLLEGE RESUME OR I DON'T

890
00:25:42,366 --> 00:25:43,133
KNOW WHAT.

891
00:25:43,266 --> 00:25:44,400
HOW DOES THAT SONG GO?

892
00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:47,066
WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH KIDS

893
00:25:47,166 --> 00:25:47,666
TODAY?

894
00:25:47,766 --> 00:25:49,700
WHY CAN'T THEY BE LIKE WE WERE

895
00:25:50,033 --> 00:25:50,233
YESTERDAY.

896
00:25:50,333 --> 00:25:52,400
I FOUND LIKE MY GRANDFATHER.

897
00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:55,333
THERE WAS A RESTAURATEUR

898
00:25:55,433 --> 00:25:57,066
WHO'S CLOSING A RESTAURANT,

899
00:25:57,166 --> 00:25:58,066
TALKING TO ST. LOUIS MAGAZINE,

900
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,533
ABOUT THIS VERY POINT AND THAT

901
00:25:59,633 --> 00:26:01,733
PERSON PROBABLY HAS A PRETTY

902
00:26:02,066 --> 00:26:03,700
GOOD IDEA, SAYING -- REGARDLESS

903
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,233
OF WHETHER IT AFFECTED THEIR

904
00:26:05,366 --> 00:26:06,666
RESTAURANT, THAT IDEA THAT THEY

905
00:26:06,766 --> 00:26:09,766
CAN'T FIND PEOPLE IN THEIR AREA

906
00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:11,700
TO WORK WAS PRETTY -- SHE OUGHT

907
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,400
ON KNOW.

908
00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:15,666
YEAH, CLOSING FOR THAT

909
00:26:15,766 --> 00:26:16,133
REASON.

910
00:26:16,233 --> 00:26:17,400
DON'T FORGET, EVERYBODY,

911
00:26:17,533 --> 00:26:18,633
TOMORROW NIGHT WE'RE AT THE

912
00:26:18,733 --> 00:26:20,300
SCHNUCKS IN RICHMOND HEIGHTS

913
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,566
BETWEEN 5:00 AND 7:00 RINGING

914
00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:26,066
BELLS FOR THE SALVATION ARMY AND

915
00:26:26,166 --> 00:26:28,166
WE WELCOME YOU TO JOIN US.

916
00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:29,466
YOU CAN COMMENT ON THE PROGRAM,

917
00:26:29,566 --> 00:26:31,333
SEND A LETTER TO KETC, 3655

918
00:26:31,433 --> 00:26:32,033
OLIVE STREET, ST. LOUIS,

919
00:26:32,133 --> 00:26:32,400
MISSOURI 63108.

920
00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:35,000
HOW ABOUT THE EMAILS,

921
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:38,200
LETTERS@KETC.ORG AND THE TWEETS,

922
00:26:38,300 --> 00:26:38,566
#DONNYBROOKSTL.

923
00:26:38,666 --> 00:26:39,700
WE WELCOME THOSE BECAUSE RAY AND

924
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,133
WENDY WILL BE READING THOSE AND

925
00:26:41,233 --> 00:26:42,200
TAKING YOUR PHONE CALLS IN JUST

926
00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:43,766
A MOMENT ON YOUR TURN.

927
00:26:44,066 --> 00:26:45,733
DON'T GO AWAY, AND SEE YOU

928
00:26:46,033 --> 00:26:46,766
TOMORROW NIGHT AT THE SCHNUCKS,

929
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:49,400
RICHMOND HEIGHTS.

930
00:26:50,433 --> 00:26:51,133
Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE

931
00:26:51,233 --> 00:26:51,700
POSSIBLE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE

932
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,500
NINE NETWORK.

933
00:30:04,766 --> 00:30:20,700
*

934
00:30:20,766 --> 00:30:22,300
WELCOME BACK TO DONNYBROOK

935
00:30:22,433 --> 00:30:23,500
YOUR TURN.

936
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,333
IT IS YOUR TURN.

937
00:30:24,466 --> 00:30:25,733
I AM SITTING HERE WITH OUR

938
00:30:26,066 --> 00:30:28,333
FOUNDER AND THE STAR OF OUR

939
00:30:28,433 --> 00:30:30,066
PROGRAM, MR. RAY HARTMANN.

940
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,733
I WILL BE HIS COPILOT AND WE'LL

941
00:30:34,033 --> 00:30:36,366
BE FLYING AT A ALTITUDE OF

942
00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:37,266
35,000 FEET.

943
00:30:37,366 --> 00:30:39,633
WHO'S UP FIRST?

944
00:30:39,733 --> 00:30:41,533
ELISE FROM HEALTH SPRINGS.

945
00:30:41,633 --> 00:30:43,600
THANKS FOR CALLING AND WELCOME

946
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:44,466
TO YOUR TURN.

947
00:30:44,566 --> 00:30:45,166
Caller: HI.

948
00:30:45,266 --> 00:30:45,766
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING

949
00:30:46,066 --> 00:30:46,433
MY CALL.

950
00:30:46,533 --> 00:30:48,166
THE REASON I'M CALLING IS

951
00:30:48,266 --> 00:30:49,200
BECAUSE I HAVE TO AGREE WITH

952
00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:51,666
SOMETHING THAT YOU SAID, WENDY,

953
00:30:51,766 --> 00:30:53,366
ON THE SHOW MULTIPLE TIMES.

954
00:30:53,466 --> 00:30:56,600
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TAXES

955
00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:58,333
AND THE ST. LOUIS CITY AND

956
00:30:58,433 --> 00:31:00,733
KANSAS CITY, AND WHY ARE WE

957
00:31:01,066 --> 00:31:03,233
TRYING TO OVERTURN THE WILL OF

958
00:31:03,333 --> 00:31:04,366
THE PEOPLE.

959
00:31:04,466 --> 00:31:07,266
AND I AGREE WITH YOU, AND NOT

960
00:31:07,366 --> 00:31:10,200
ONLY ARE THEY TRYING TO DO THAT,

961
00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:11,333
BUT THERE ARE TWO OTHER ISSUES

962
00:31:11,433 --> 00:31:14,266
THAT THE VOTERS RECENTLY VOTED

963
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,133
ON, WHICH IS RIGHT TO WORK AND

964
00:31:16,266 --> 00:31:20,066
THEN I BELIEVE IT WAS PROP ONE,

965
00:31:20,166 --> 00:31:21,033
WHICH WAS TRANSPARENCY --

966
00:31:21,133 --> 00:31:25,033
CLEAN MISSOURI, CLEAN

967
00:31:25,166 --> 00:31:25,433
MISSOURI, RIGHT.

968
00:31:25,566 --> 00:31:26,033
Caller: RIGHT.

969
00:31:26,166 --> 00:31:27,033
AND THEY'RE TRYING TO OVERTURN

970
00:31:27,166 --> 00:31:28,766
THAT NOW, TOO, AND I DON'T

971
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:31,466
UNDERSTAND WHY LAWMAKERS JUST

972
00:31:31,566 --> 00:31:33,100
CAN'T TAKE WHAT THE PEOPLE OF

973
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,466
THE STATE HAVE VOTED ON AND

974
00:31:35,566 --> 00:31:37,500
ACCEPT THAT.

975
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,666
IT'S VERY DISHEARTENING AND IT

976
00:31:39,766 --> 00:31:42,066
MAKES -- WELL, I VOTE ALL THE

977
00:31:42,166 --> 00:31:43,700
TIME AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO

978
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,300
SO, BUT I'M SURE THAT IT MAKES A

979
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,600
LOT OF OTHER VOTERS VERY

980
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:51,166
FRUSTRATED AND FEEL LIKE WHY

981
00:31:51,266 --> 00:31:53,666
VOTE IF THE LAWMAKERS AREN'T

982
00:31:53,766 --> 00:31:56,733
GOING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION

983
00:31:57,033 --> 00:32:00,200
WHAT WE IN FACT VOTE FOR.

984
00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:01,300
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

985
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,700
ELISE, HEAR HEAR.

986
00:32:02,766 --> 00:32:03,766
THEY DO IT BECAUSE THEY CAN AND

987
00:32:04,100 --> 00:32:05,066
IT REALLY IS AMAZING.

988
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,600
I MEAN, IN MISSOURI, THE NUMBER

989
00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:11,066
OF TIMES THAT THAT'S HAPPENED.

990
00:32:11,166 --> 00:32:12,100
BUT DON'T YOU THINK IT'S A

991
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,700
RECENT -- IT'S A FAIRLY RECENT

992
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,533
PHENOMENON THAT WE'RE SEEING AND

993
00:32:17,633 --> 00:32:20,366
IT'S --

994
00:32:20,466 --> 00:32:22,400
YOU'RE RIGHT.

995
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:23,766
IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF OMINOUS

996
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:28,266
IN MY OPINION, BUT THAUN, ELISE.

997
00:32:28,366 --> 00:32:31,700
AND THE IDEA THAT POLITICIANS

998
00:32:32,033 --> 00:32:33,766
ARE GOING TO ROLL OVER AND CLEAN

999
00:32:34,066 --> 00:32:35,700
UP LOBBYING, GOOD LUCK WITH

1000
00:32:35,766 --> 00:32:36,133
THAT.

1001
00:32:36,233 --> 00:32:38,166
LET'S GO TO RON FROM SOULARD.

1002
00:32:38,266 --> 00:32:40,466
YOU'RE ON DONNYBROOK, YOUR TURN.

1003
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,266
Caller: THANK YOU FOR TAKING

1004
00:32:41,366 --> 00:32:43,066
MY CALL AND THE LADY, I WAS

1005
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,666
GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING.

1006
00:32:44,766 --> 00:32:46,166
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I WANT

1007
00:32:46,266 --> 00:32:47,466
TO SAY IS ABOUT EARNINGS TAX.

1008
00:32:47,566 --> 00:32:48,700
THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS WILL BE

1009
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:49,500
BANKRUPT WITHOUT THE CITY

1010
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,200
EARNINGS TAX.

1011
00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:52,466
YOU WANT THE CITY TO FIGHT

1012
00:32:52,566 --> 00:32:53,600
CRIME, YOU WANT IT TO BUILD A

1013
00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:55,366
STADIUM THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE

1014
00:32:55,466 --> 00:32:56,400
VOTED AGAINST, YOU WANT THEM TO

1015
00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:58,266
DO A LOT OF THINGS IN THE CITY,

1016
00:32:58,366 --> 00:33:01,633
BUT WE CAN'T TAX PEOPLE WHO USE

1017
00:33:01,733 --> 00:33:05,100
THE SERVICES, COMING INTO THE

1018
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,400
CITY, THROW THEIR TRASH DOWN,

1019
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:08,433
DOUBLE PARK.

1020
00:33:08,533 --> 00:33:10,066
WE CHARGING EVERYBODY FOR LIVING

1021
00:33:10,166 --> 00:33:11,600
IN THE CITY AND YOU JUST PAY

1022
00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:13,200
YOUR SHARE FOR THE CITY TO BE A

1023
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:14,733
BETTER PLACE TO LIVE, IF YOU

1024
00:33:15,066 --> 00:33:16,733
WANT TO COME TO A BETTER PLACE.

1025
00:33:17,066 --> 00:33:17,700
THANK YOU, RON.

1026
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,366
WELL STATED AND WE HEAR FROM

1027
00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:20,533
PEOPLE, OH, WE'RE NOT LIVING IN

1028
00:33:20,633 --> 00:33:21,766
THE CITY.

1029
00:33:22,066 --> 00:33:23,666
WE'RE GOING TO YOU FROM THE CITY

1030
00:33:23,766 --> 00:33:26,266
OF ST. LOUIS, BEAUTIFUL CHANNEL

1031
00:33:26,366 --> 00:33:27,033
9 AND GREAT --

1032
00:33:27,133 --> 00:33:28,533
GRAND CENTER, YEAH.

1033
00:33:28,633 --> 00:33:30,133
GRAND CENTER AREA, AND IT'S

1034
00:33:30,266 --> 00:33:33,100
REALLY -- I MEAN, I HAPPEN TO BE

1035
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,533
VERY STRONGLY THINK THAT THERE'S

1036
00:33:34,633 --> 00:33:37,166
A PERFECT LOGIC TO THE CITY

1037
00:33:37,300 --> 00:33:38,633
EARNINGS TAX AS SOMEONE WHO'S

1038
00:33:38,733 --> 00:33:42,100
PAID IT AND PAYS IT, AND THAT IS

1039
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,433
THAT PEOPLE WHO COME FOR THE DAY

1040
00:33:43,533 --> 00:33:44,633
AND USE THE POLICE AND THE FIRE

1041
00:33:44,733 --> 00:33:46,733
AND THE STREETS AND THE OTHER

1042
00:33:47,033 --> 00:33:48,600
SERVICES, YOU KNOW, IT'S THEIR

1043
00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:50,366
WAY OF CONTRIBUTING AND MANY,

1044
00:33:50,466 --> 00:33:52,100
MANY PEOPLE COME TO DOWNTOWN.

1045
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,700
NOT AS MANY AS USED TO, BUT --

1046
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,500
SO THERE'S SOME LOGIC TO IT.

1047
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,300
BUT THE BIGGER POINT IS THAT THE

1048
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,733
FOLKS VOTED 80% TO KEEP IT.

1049
00:34:01,033 --> 00:34:01,766
THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT.

1050
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:03,466
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT U.S.

1051
00:34:03,566 --> 00:34:04,300
BANK THINKS.

1052
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,400
I MEAN --

1053
00:34:06,533 --> 00:34:07,266
NO.

1054
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,066
AND RON, WE THANK YOU BECAUSE

1055
00:34:10,166 --> 00:34:11,300
YOU CERTAINLY ARE SPEAKING FOR A

1056
00:34:11,433 --> 00:34:12,633
LOT OF PEOPLE.

1057
00:34:12,733 --> 00:34:14,700
LET'S GO TO KATHY FROM

1058
00:34:15,033 --> 00:34:16,600
ST. LOUIS COUNTY.

1059
00:34:16,700 --> 00:34:18,233
HELLO, KATHY.

1060
00:34:18,333 --> 00:34:22,200
Caller: OH HI, WENDY, AND HI,

1061
00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:22,400
RAY.

1062
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:24,600
NICE TALKING TO YOU.

1063
00:34:24,700 --> 00:34:25,566
ON THE JOSH HAWLEY

1064
00:34:25,666 --> 00:34:26,366
INVESTIGATION, I DON'T THINK A

1065
00:34:26,466 --> 00:34:28,266
MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN THE STATE

1066
00:34:28,366 --> 00:34:30,533
OF MISSOURI REALIZE HE LOST

1067
00:34:30,633 --> 00:34:32,466
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR PEOPLE

1068
00:34:32,566 --> 00:34:34,500
IN THIS STATE BECAUSE HE

1069
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,733
COULDN'T RUN THAT OFFICE.

1070
00:34:37,033 --> 00:34:39,166
THEY HAD TO SUB OUT BECAUSE HE

1071
00:34:39,266 --> 00:34:42,666
COULDN'T LITIGATE THE CASES.

1072
00:34:42,766 --> 00:34:44,233
THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN RECTIFIED

1073
00:34:44,333 --> 00:34:46,066
A VERY LONG TIME AGO BECAUSE I

1074
00:34:46,166 --> 00:34:47,600
DON'T THINK ANY OF US, IF WE GO

1075
00:34:47,700 --> 00:34:49,433
INTO A JOB AND WE'RE NOT RUNNING

1076
00:34:49,566 --> 00:34:51,133
IT PROPERLY FOR THE FIRST COUPLE

1077
00:34:51,233 --> 00:34:53,433
WEEKS, THAT WE'RE GOING TO STAY

1078
00:34:53,533 --> 00:34:53,666
THERE.

1079
00:34:53,766 --> 00:34:56,233
AND I WONDER, ARE THEY GOING TO

1080
00:34:56,333 --> 00:34:59,766
BE ABLE TO GET ALL OF THE

1081
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:01,066
INFORMATION FROM THAT OFFICE?

1082
00:35:01,166 --> 00:35:03,166
AND IS THE SENATE GOING TO SIT

1083
00:35:03,266 --> 00:35:05,233
HIM IF HE'S UNDER INVESTIGATION?

1084
00:35:05,366 --> 00:35:06,633
THAT'S AN INTERESTING

1085
00:35:06,733 --> 00:35:07,133
QUESTION.

1086
00:35:07,233 --> 00:35:10,066
THE ANSWER, I THINK, IS YES TO

1087
00:35:10,166 --> 00:35:11,433
THAT BECAUSE OF WHO THE SENATE

1088
00:35:11,533 --> 00:35:12,666
IS CONTROLLED BY.

1089
00:35:12,766 --> 00:35:15,133
I DON'T THINK THE HOUSE WOULD.

1090
00:35:15,233 --> 00:35:16,233
BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS CONTROL

1091
00:35:16,333 --> 00:35:17,600
THE HOUSE.

1092
00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:19,566
BUT THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT.

1093
00:35:19,666 --> 00:35:21,566
AND AS I SAY, I WAS ALONE ON

1094
00:35:21,666 --> 00:35:23,066
THIS ISSUE.

1095
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,200
I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY TO THE

1096
00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:27,033
CREDIT OF JAY ASHCROFT -- I

1097
00:35:27,133 --> 00:35:28,500
CAN'T BELIEVE I'M SAYING THAT.

1098
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,700
I CAN'T EITHER.

1099
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,633
YOU KNOW, HIS FATHER WAS

1100
00:35:32,766 --> 00:35:35,200
SOMEBODY THAT I JUST DISAGREED

1101
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:37,233
WITH SO MUCH FOR SO LONG

1102
00:35:37,333 --> 00:35:37,600
ALTHOUGH --

1103
00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:40,333
BUT YOU HAVE RESPECT FOR HIM.

1104
00:35:40,433 --> 00:35:42,500
I ALWAYS RESPECTED HIS

1105
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,066
INTEGRITY AND MAYBE JAY ASHCROFT

1106
00:35:44,166 --> 00:35:45,066
IS TRYING TO BRAND HIMSELF --

1107
00:35:45,166 --> 00:35:49,233
BUT WHAT CAN HE DO IF HE A

1108
00:35:49,333 --> 00:35:50,733
QUESTION HAS BEEN RAISED ABOUT

1109
00:35:51,033 --> 00:35:52,333
SENATOR-ELECT HAWLEY, HE HAS TO

1110
00:35:52,433 --> 00:35:52,633
FOLLOW --

1111
00:35:52,733 --> 00:35:54,200
WELL, TO HIS CREDIT AND I'LL

1112
00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:55,766
STICK TO MY GUNS, THE FACT THAT

1113
00:35:56,066 --> 00:35:58,066
HE HAS A DREADED APPOINTEE

1114
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,333
WORKING FOR HIM WHO HAPPENS TO

1115
00:35:59,466 --> 00:36:00,666
GIVE MONEY FOR A DEMOCRAT, AS IF

1116
00:36:00,766 --> 00:36:03,166
THAT WAS A CRIME, AND THE FACT

1117
00:36:03,266 --> 00:36:05,033
THAT HE'S BROUGHT IN THE

1118
00:36:05,133 --> 00:36:07,100
DEMOCRATIC AUDITOR WITH SUBPOENA

1119
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,033
POWER, IT IS THE BEST EXAMPLE OF

1120
00:36:09,133 --> 00:36:11,033
BIPARTISANSHIP OUT THERE.

1121
00:36:11,133 --> 00:36:13,166
I CAN'T BELIEVE EVERYBODY IS NOT

1122
00:36:13,266 --> 00:36:14,300
EMBRACING AND GIVING JAY

1123
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,666
ASHCROFT CREDIT FOR WHAT APPEARS

1124
00:36:16,766 --> 00:36:17,333
TO BE AN INDEPENDENT

1125
00:36:17,433 --> 00:36:18,400
INVESTIGATION OF SOMEBODY IN HIS

1126
00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:18,766
OWN PARTY.

1127
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:21,100
I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THERE ARE

1128
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,066
REPUBLICANS VERY UPSET ABOUT IT.

1129
00:36:23,166 --> 00:36:24,433
THERE ARE REPUBLICANS WHO ARE

1130
00:36:24,566 --> 00:36:28,566
VERY UPSET ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK

1131
00:36:28,666 --> 00:36:30,200
IN TERMS OF THE DEMOCRAT WHO

1132
00:36:30,333 --> 00:36:33,466
HAS -- HEISINGER, I MEAN NO

1133
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,066
DISRESPECT, I JUST CAN'T

1134
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,366
REMEMBER HER NAME AT THIS

1135
00:36:36,466 --> 00:36:37,500
MOMENT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT

1136
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,733
SHE WORKS FOR MR. ASHCROFT, BUT

1137
00:36:40,033 --> 00:36:42,200
I JUST THINK IN TERMS OF OPTICS,

1138
00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:42,733
WE HAVE TO --

1139
00:36:43,033 --> 00:36:45,233
I THINK IT'S GREAT OPTICS!

1140
00:36:45,366 --> 00:36:46,500
THAT A REPUBLICAN PICKS A

1141
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,066
DEMOCRAT TO RUN -- TO

1142
00:36:48,166 --> 00:36:49,333
INVESTIGATE A FELLOW REPUBLICAN.

1143
00:36:49,433 --> 00:36:50,700
I THINK THAT'S PERFECT AND IF IT

1144
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,766
WERE FLIPPED, I THINK IT WAS

1145
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:55,266
PERFECT.

1146
00:36:55,366 --> 00:36:56,300
I THINK IT IS PERFECT THAT --

1147
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,100
SEVERAL OF OUS THE PANEL

1148
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,366
DISAGREE WITH YOU TONIGHT, RAY.

1149
00:37:00,466 --> 00:37:02,300
I KNOW YOU DO.

1150
00:37:02,433 --> 00:37:04,133
ALL FOUR OF YOU.

1151
00:37:04,233 --> 00:37:06,066
AND IF THE SITUATION WAS

1152
00:37:06,166 --> 00:37:07,666
REVERSED, BUT KATHY, WE THANK

1153
00:37:07,766 --> 00:37:08,066
YOU.

1154
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,466
LET'S GO TO BILL, FIRST-TIME

1155
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,000
CALLER FROM ROCK HILL.

1156
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:13,133
WHO?

1157
00:37:13,233 --> 00:37:14,700
BILL, YOU'RE ON DONNYBROOK

1158
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:15,233
YOU'RE TURN.

1159
00:37:15,366 --> 00:37:17,233
BILL FROM ROCK HILL.

1160
00:37:17,333 --> 00:37:18,533
Caller: RAY, THIS IS OUR

1161
00:37:18,633 --> 00:37:19,533
TURN, NOT YOUR TURN.

1162
00:37:19,633 --> 00:37:21,100
NOW THAT WE GOT THAT STRAIGHT,

1163
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,533
I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE

1164
00:37:23,633 --> 00:37:25,533
SITUATION ABOUT THE PHOTOGRAPH

1165
00:37:25,633 --> 00:37:28,033
OF THE FOOTBALL WITH THE HIGH

1166
00:37:28,133 --> 00:37:28,300
SIGN.

1167
00:37:28,433 --> 00:37:29,200
HAVE YOU NOTICED THERE SOMES

1168
00:37:29,300 --> 00:37:31,133
TUBE KIND OF A SUB CULTURE THAT

1169
00:37:31,233 --> 00:37:32,633
HAS DEVELOPED THAT SPENDS ALL

1170
00:37:32,733 --> 00:37:35,333
THEIR TIME TRYING TO FIND STUFF

1171
00:37:35,433 --> 00:37:37,066
TO GET OFFENDED BY?

1172
00:37:37,166 --> 00:37:38,333
IT'S GOT TO BE RIDICULOUS.

1173
00:37:38,433 --> 00:37:39,200
THIS PAST WEEK THERE WAS

1174
00:37:39,333 --> 00:37:41,166
SOMEBODY WHO HAD A BIG

1175
00:37:41,266 --> 00:37:42,200
CONNIPTION BECAUSE THEY CLAIMED

1176
00:37:42,333 --> 00:37:44,366
THAT RUDOLPH THE RED-NOSED

1177
00:37:44,466 --> 00:37:46,266
REINDEER WAS BULLYING AND NOW

1178
00:37:46,366 --> 00:37:48,033
THEY'RE ALL UPSET ABOUT IT AND

1179
00:37:48,133 --> 00:37:50,533
THIS THING WITH THE HIGH SIGN.

1180
00:37:50,633 --> 00:37:52,533
FOLKS, FIRST OF ALL, GET A LIFE.

1181
00:37:52,633 --> 00:37:54,033
SECOND OF ALL, LAWYERS STOP

1182
00:37:54,133 --> 00:37:55,366
TAKING CASES FOR THESE PEOPLE.

1183
00:37:55,466 --> 00:37:56,766
AND THIRD OF ALL, THE

1184
00:37:57,066 --> 00:37:58,166
CONSTITUTION -- YOU SHOULD KNOW

1185
00:37:58,266 --> 00:38:01,733
THIS, RAY, AS BEING A MEMBER OF

1186
00:38:02,033 --> 00:38:03,700
THE ACLU, CONTROVERSIAL SPEECH

1187
00:38:04,033 --> 00:38:05,433
IS PROTECTED SPEECH.

1188
00:38:05,533 --> 00:38:06,100
THERE'S NOTHING IN THE

1189
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,100
CONSTITUTION THAT SAYS YOU HAVE

1190
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,166
A RIGHT NOT TO BE OFFENDED.

1191
00:38:10,266 --> 00:38:11,033
AMEN.

1192
00:38:11,133 --> 00:38:12,300
Caller: AND ALL THE PEOPLE

1193
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,166
TRYING TO FIND THESE SAFE SPEECH

1194
00:38:14,266 --> 00:38:16,600
ZONES ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND

1195
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:20,100
TRYING TO -- YOU KNOW, THEY'RE

1196
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,633
TRYING -- THERE'S NO RIGHT TO BE

1197
00:38:21,733 --> 00:38:23,366
NOT OFFENDED IN THE

1198
00:38:23,466 --> 00:38:23,700
CONSTITUTION.

1199
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:24,366
IT DOESN'T EXIST.

1200
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:26,266
WE AGREE.

1201
00:38:26,366 --> 00:38:28,400
WE AGREE, AND I I HAVE -- I'M

1202
00:38:28,533 --> 00:38:30,200
GUILTY OF A LOT OF THINGS, BUT

1203
00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:33,400
STICKING UP FOR, YOU KNOW --

1204
00:38:33,533 --> 00:38:34,066
DEFENDING --

1205
00:38:34,166 --> 00:38:35,633
YOU ALWAYS DEFEND FREE

1206
00:38:35,733 --> 00:38:36,100
SPEECH.

1207
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:36,566
I AGREE WITH YOU.

1208
00:38:36,666 --> 00:38:38,766
THANKS, BILL, THANKS FOR

1209
00:38:39,066 --> 00:38:39,233
CALLING.

1210
00:38:39,333 --> 00:38:43,200
LET'S GO TO THE TWITTERVERSE.

1211
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:45,333
@CRAIG, MY BUDDY.

1212
00:38:45,466 --> 00:38:46,100
THE REPUBLICAN SECRETARY OF

1213
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,666
STATE APPOINTED THE LAWYER WHO

1214
00:38:47,766 --> 00:38:49,233
WILL INVESTIGATE WHAT MAY OR MAY

1215
00:38:49,333 --> 00:38:51,033
NOT HAVE HAPPENED IN JOSH

1216
00:38:51,133 --> 00:38:51,766
HAWLEY'S CAMPAIGN.

1217
00:38:52,066 --> 00:38:52,633
HAS ANYONE QUESTIONED HIM

1218
00:38:52,733 --> 00:38:54,000
DIRECTLY WHY HE CHOSE HER?

1219
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:55,533
THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, CRAIG.

1220
00:38:55,633 --> 00:38:58,733
I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE HE

1221
00:38:59,033 --> 00:39:05,533
WANTS TO APPEAR BIPARTISAN.

1222
00:39:05,666 --> 00:39:08,200
SISTER VAUR 23, WHEN IT COMES TO

1223
00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:10,133
THE OKAY SIGN, I THINK IT'S

1224
00:39:10,233 --> 00:39:11,700
ABOUT EDUCATING YOURSELF.

1225
00:39:11,766 --> 00:39:14,133
MANY PEOPLE FIND SIGNS WE FIND

1226
00:39:14,233 --> 00:39:15,233
HARMLESS AS INSULTING.

1227
00:39:15,333 --> 00:39:16,766
BE RESPECTFUL AND THINK OF THE

1228
00:39:17,066 --> 00:39:19,466
CONTEXT IT IS USED.

1229
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:20,600
THANK YOU.

1230
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:24,700
@STEVE JACOBOWSKI, I WOULD

1231
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,400
RATHER WE DEVELOP THE PERSONAL

1232
00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:27,500
PROPERTY TAX INSTEAD OF THE

1233
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,100
EARNINGS TAX.

1234
00:39:29,233 --> 00:39:31,500
IT'S PART OF THE REASON I BOUGHT

1235
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,566
A 2005 CAR.

1236
00:39:32,666 --> 00:39:33,100
THANK YOU.

1237
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,233
KEEP TWEETING US AT THE

1238
00:39:36,333 --> 00:39:36,600
#DONNYBROOKSTL.

1239
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:39,200
AND WE'LL GO TO BRENDA IN

1240
00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:39,633
COLLINSVILLE.

1241
00:39:39,733 --> 00:39:40,666
HELLO, BRENDA.

1242
00:39:40,766 --> 00:39:42,300
HI, BRENDA.

1243
00:39:42,433 --> 00:39:42,666
Caller: HI.

1244
00:39:42,766 --> 00:39:44,566
I'M CALLING ABOUT THE OKAY SIGN.

1245
00:39:44,666 --> 00:39:47,100
I WAS IN THE ARMY AND WHEN WE

1246
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,033
WENT TO GERMANY IN 1979, WE WERE

1247
00:39:50,133 --> 00:39:52,433
TOLD NOT TO USE THAT SIGN TO THE

1248
00:39:52,533 --> 00:39:53,533
GERMANS BECAUSE IT MEANT

1249
00:39:55,466 --> 00:39:56,666
MY GOODNESS.

1250
00:39:56,766 --> 00:39:57,366
OKAY.

1251
00:39:57,466 --> 00:39:59,166
WELL, WE THANK YOU AND WE'RE

1252
00:39:59,266 --> 00:40:00,700
HOPING OUR DELAY IS WORKING THIS

1253
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:01,166
EVENING.

1254
00:40:01,266 --> 00:40:02,533
IT MAY OR MAY NOT.

1255
00:40:02,633 --> 00:40:04,633
THANK YOU, BRENDA.

1256
00:40:04,766 --> 00:40:07,500
THAT ONE -- WELL, I THOUGHT WHEN

1257
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,766
SHE SAID THEY WERE IN GERMANY,

1258
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:11,333
THAT IF THIS WAS A QUESTION OF A

1259
00:40:11,433 --> 00:40:13,233
WHITE -- WOW.

1260
00:40:13,333 --> 00:40:14,266
OKAY, BRENDA, THANK YOU SO MUCH

1261
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:14,666
FOR PHONING IN.

1262
00:40:14,766 --> 00:40:16,433
I DID NOT SEE THAT ONE

1263
00:40:16,533 --> 00:40:16,700
COMING.

1264
00:40:16,766 --> 00:40:17,566
I DID NOT EITHER.

1265
00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:20,033
LET'S GO TO RON IN AUGUSTA,

1266
00:40:20,133 --> 00:40:20,300
MISSOURI.

1267
00:40:20,433 --> 00:40:22,166
HI, RON.

1268
00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:23,066
WATCH YOUR TONGUE.

1269
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,700
Caller: YEAH, BRENDA, GO,

1270
00:40:24,766 --> 00:40:25,133
GIRL.

1271
00:40:25,233 --> 00:40:26,600
IT'S OKAY WITH ME.

1272
00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:28,166
Caller: FIRST OFF, MERRY

1273
00:40:28,266 --> 00:40:29,133
CHRISTMAS TO YOU GUYS.

1274
00:40:29,233 --> 00:40:31,766
THANK YOU.

1275
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:33,766
SAME TO YOU, BY THE WAY.

1276
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:35,200
Caller: AS FAR AS THIS

1277
00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:36,300
ASHCROFT THING, IF I'M GOING TO

1278
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,500
BE INVESTIGATED, THE I WANT THE

1279
00:40:38,633 --> 00:40:39,733
PERSON THAT'S GOING TO DIG UP

1280
00:40:40,033 --> 00:40:40,666
THE WORST STUFF ON ME.

1281
00:40:40,766 --> 00:40:42,700
IF HE'S NOT GUILTY, HE'S NOT

1282
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:43,166
GUILTY.

1283
00:40:43,266 --> 00:40:44,300
IF HE'S GUILTY, HE'S GUILTY.

1284
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,266
I SUPPORTED JOSH, I THINK HE'S A

1285
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,200
GOOD GUY, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO

1286
00:40:48,300 --> 00:40:49,533
INVESTIGATE HIM, LET'S DO IT.

1287
00:40:49,633 --> 00:40:51,466
I COULDN'T CARE LESS WHO IT DID.

1288
00:40:51,566 --> 00:40:53,033
LET'S FIND OUT WHAT'S TWG ON.

1289
00:40:53,166 --> 00:40:53,533
I AGREE.

1290
00:40:53,633 --> 00:40:55,100
Caller: AND AS FAR AS THIS

1291
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,033
SILLY OKAY THING, I'M A KID OF

1292
00:40:57,133 --> 00:40:59,600
THE '70s IN HIGH SCHOOL, SO I

1293
00:40:59,733 --> 00:41:02,166
HAD TO WATCH MY BLACK FRIENDS

1294
00:41:02,266 --> 00:41:04,166
AND I PROBABLY WOULD ADMIT I

1295
00:41:04,266 --> 00:41:05,733
MAYBE EVEN IN A WEAK MOMENT

1296
00:41:06,033 --> 00:41:08,433
JOINED IN WITH THE CLENCHED FIST

1297
00:41:08,533 --> 00:41:11,400
FOR BLACK POWER.

1298
00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:15,100
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WHITE POWER,

1299
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,766
WE HAVE BLACK POWER.

1300
00:41:18,066 --> 00:41:21,533
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT STUFF.

1301
00:41:21,633 --> 00:41:22,333
OKAY.

1302
00:41:22,433 --> 00:41:24,433
Caller: WE DON'T LIKE EITHER

1303
00:41:24,566 --> 00:41:24,700
ONE.

1304
00:41:24,766 --> 00:41:25,233
ALL RIGHT.

1305
00:41:25,333 --> 00:41:27,466
Caller: WE'RE JUST ONE

1306
00:41:27,566 --> 00:41:27,766
COUNTRY.

1307
00:41:28,066 --> 00:41:28,233
OKAY.

1308
00:41:28,333 --> 00:41:28,633
APPRECIATE THAT.

1309
00:41:28,733 --> 00:41:29,600
THANK YOU, RON.

1310
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:31,466
WE APPRECIATE YOU CALLING.

1311
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,466
LET'S GO TO JOHN FROM MAPLE

1312
00:41:35,566 --> 00:41:36,333
WOOD.

1313
00:41:36,466 --> 00:41:37,066
HI, JOHN.

1314
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:37,766
Caller: HI.

1315
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:39,433
HOW ARE YOU GUYS?

1316
00:41:39,533 --> 00:41:40,233
WE'RE GOOD.

1317
00:41:40,366 --> 00:41:41,333
Caller: DON'T FIND MYSELF IN

1318
00:41:41,433 --> 00:41:42,766
A POSITION TO CONTRADICT ALVIN

1319
00:41:43,066 --> 00:41:45,133
TO MANY OCCASIONS, BUT TONIGHT

1320
00:41:45,233 --> 00:41:48,266
YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT YOU --

1321
00:41:48,366 --> 00:41:50,133
MY OWN TWO BOYS WHO ARE UNDER 16

1322
00:41:50,266 --> 00:41:52,366
ARE BOTH WORKING, ONE OF THEM IS

1323
00:41:52,466 --> 00:41:53,433
WORKING IN A RESTAURANT IN

1324
00:41:53,533 --> 00:41:54,600
MAPLEWOOD AND THE OTHER ONE IS

1325
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:56,433
CUTTING GRASS AND, YOU KNOW,

1326
00:41:56,533 --> 00:41:57,566
HUSTLING TRYING TO MAKE MONEY

1327
00:41:57,666 --> 00:42:02,633
ANY WAY HE CAN, AND I THINK THE

1328
00:42:02,733 --> 00:42:04,133
SCHOOL DISTRICT REALLY

1329
00:42:04,233 --> 00:42:06,433
ENCOURAGES KIDS, YOU KNOW, TO

1330
00:42:06,533 --> 00:42:08,433
GET ALL KINDS OF EXPERIENCE, YOU

1331
00:42:08,533 --> 00:42:08,666
KNOW.

1332
00:42:08,766 --> 00:42:09,166
RIGHT.

1333
00:42:09,266 --> 00:42:10,300
Caller: THEY'VE DONE A GREAT

1334
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:10,500
JOB.

1335
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,633
THE COMMUNITY HERE HAS DONE A

1336
00:42:11,733 --> 00:42:13,600
GREAT JOB EMBRACING THESE KIDS

1337
00:42:13,700 --> 00:42:16,033
AND GIVING THEM THAT EXPERIENCE,

1338
00:42:16,133 --> 00:42:17,633
AND I THINK IT'S REALLY A SCHOOL

1339
00:42:17,733 --> 00:42:19,233
DISTRICT ON THE RISE AND A

1340
00:42:19,333 --> 00:42:21,666
COMMUNITY ON THE RISE.

1341
00:42:21,766 --> 00:42:22,333
OKAY.

1342
00:42:22,433 --> 00:42:23,533
Caller: SO ALVIN IS WRONG.

1343
00:42:23,666 --> 00:42:25,266
I'D LIKE TO STICK UP FOR

1344
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:25,533
ALVIN.

1345
00:42:25,633 --> 00:42:27,033
I THINK HE WAS MAKING THE POINT

1346
00:42:27,133 --> 00:42:28,333
THAT IN CERTAIN PARTS OF

1347
00:42:28,433 --> 00:42:30,166
ST. LOUIS N THIS CASE IT WAS --

1348
00:42:30,266 --> 00:42:31,433
WAS IT ELLISVILLE?

1349
00:42:31,566 --> 00:42:32,766
IT WAS CHESTERFIELD.

1350
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:33,500
CHESTERFIELD.

1351
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,200
THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN PARTS OF

1352
00:42:37,300 --> 00:42:40,400
MORE AFFLUENT WEST COUNTY THAT I

1353
00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:42,066
THINK HE WAS VERY TACTFULLY AND

1354
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,600
PROPERLY MAKING THE POINT THAT A

1355
00:42:43,733 --> 00:42:45,066
LOT OF PEOPLE WEREN'T INTERESTED

1356
00:42:45,166 --> 00:42:46,100
IN DOING THEIR JOBS.

1357
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:46,633
I DON'T THINK HE WAS TALKING

1358
00:42:46,766 --> 00:42:48,600
ABOUT MAPLE WOOD AT ALL, SO I

1359
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:51,200
THINK A WOULD -- THAT WOULD BE

1360
00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:53,066
MY GUESS OF WHAT HE WAS SAYING.

1361
00:42:53,166 --> 00:42:54,000
WE APPRECIATE THE CALL.

1362
00:42:54,133 --> 00:42:56,666
YES, AS A PARENT, WE -- OR AS

1363
00:42:56,766 --> 00:42:58,066
PARENTS, I SHOULD SAY, MY

1364
00:42:58,166 --> 00:42:59,566
HUSBAND AND I THOUGHT IT WAS

1365
00:42:59,666 --> 00:43:01,166
VERY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE HE AND I

1366
00:43:01,266 --> 00:43:02,166
HAD BOTH WORKED IN HIGH SCHOOL

1367
00:43:02,266 --> 00:43:03,633
AND I KNOW YOU WORKED IN HIGH

1368
00:43:03,733 --> 00:43:04,500
SCHOOL AND JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL

1369
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,266
AND WE WORKED IN JUNIOR HIGH

1370
00:43:06,366 --> 00:43:06,533
SCHOOL.

1371
00:43:06,633 --> 00:43:10,466
I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEND A CHILD

1372
00:43:10,566 --> 00:43:12,400
INTO A COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY

1373
00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:13,366
EXPERIENCE WITHOUT HAVING A

1374
00:43:13,466 --> 00:43:15,200
LITTLE MORE LIFE EXPERIENCE.

1375
00:43:15,300 --> 00:43:17,100
AND YOU CAN'T FIND A BETTER

1376
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,266
PLACE TO ACQUIRE THAT LIFE

1377
00:43:19,366 --> 00:43:20,733
EXPERIENCE THAN ON THE JOB.

1378
00:43:21,033 --> 00:43:22,700
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE A

1379
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:23,200
TEENAGER.

1380
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:25,100
SO I THINK PARENTS ARE DOING

1381
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,400
THEIR CHILDREN A GREAT

1382
00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:28,000
DISSERVICE WHEN -- THAT'S JUST

1383
00:43:28,133 --> 00:43:34,233
MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION -- WHEN

1384
00:43:34,333 --> 00:43:35,700
THEY DON'T ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET

1385
00:43:35,766 --> 00:43:36,766
A JOB.

1386
00:43:37,066 --> 00:43:38,200
MAYBE THEY'RE IN LIKE FLINT IN

1387
00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:39,300
COLLEGE AND THEY DON'T NEED TO

1388
00:43:39,433 --> 00:43:41,300
HAVE A JOB, BUT THANKS, JOHN,

1389
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,400
FOR ALLOWING ME TO EVENT.

1390
00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:45,166
GOOD FOR YOU AND BECAUSE OF

1391
00:43:45,266 --> 00:43:46,466
THAT, I GOT TO WORK FOR THE

1392
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,166
GREAT MARTIN DUGGAN.

1393
00:43:48,266 --> 00:43:50,633
AND THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT FOR

1394
00:43:50,733 --> 00:43:51,066
YOU.

1395
00:43:51,166 --> 00:43:52,033
IT NEVER SEEMED TO --

1396
00:43:52,133 --> 00:43:55,166
OH, HE WAS SO PROUD OF YOU.

1397
00:43:55,266 --> 00:43:56,366
BILL FROM BONNE TERRE.

1398
00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:58,366
HOW ARE YOU DOING, BILL?

1399
00:43:58,500 --> 00:44:00,500
Caller: WENDY, I ABSOLUTELY

1400
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,566
LOVE YOU, BUT I DON'T LIKE WHAT

1401
00:44:03,666 --> 00:44:07,300
YOU SAID ABOUT PEOPLE WHO DON'T

1402
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,566
LIKE THE RESULTS OF ELECTION

1403
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:15,166
TRYING TOOVER -- TOOVER TURN IT

1404
00:44:15,266 --> 00:44:16,033
THROUGH INVESTIGATION.

1405
00:44:16,166 --> 00:44:16,633
INVESTIGATION ONLY GET PEOPLE'S

1406
00:44:16,733 --> 00:44:18,200
WHO HAVE COMMITTED CRIMES.

1407
00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:22,766
IF YOU DON'T CREDIT COMMIT A

1408
00:44:23,066 --> 00:44:24,400
CRIME, DON'T BE CONCERNED ABOUT

1409
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:25,333
AN INVESTIGATION.

1410
00:44:25,433 --> 00:44:27,066
I THINK ANYBODY IN PUBLIC OFFICE

1411
00:44:27,166 --> 00:44:28,500
SHOULD FEAR BEING INVESTIGATED

1412
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:29,233
TO DEATH BECAUSE THAT'S HOW

1413
00:44:29,333 --> 00:44:31,033
WE'RE GOING TO KEEP CROOKS OUT

1414
00:44:31,133 --> 00:44:32,333
OF PUBLIC OFFICE AND THE

1415
00:44:32,433 --> 00:44:34,766
RIDICULOUS NOTION THAT PEOPLE

1416
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:38,166
WERE PUSHING ABOUT A PERJURY

1417
00:44:38,266 --> 00:44:39,766
TRAP, YOU KNOW WHAT?

1418
00:44:40,066 --> 00:44:41,166
PERJURY TRAPS CATCH LIARS.

1419
00:44:41,266 --> 00:44:43,766
YOU DON'T LIE, YOU DON'T GET

1420
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:44,266
CAUGHT.

1421
00:44:44,366 --> 00:44:44,566
YEAH.

1422
00:44:44,666 --> 00:44:48,033
I AGREE THAT'S TRUE.

1423
00:44:48,166 --> 00:44:49,166
AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE,

1424
00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:50,766
I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE, THERE IS

1425
00:44:51,066 --> 00:44:52,766
THE REAL APPEARANCE -- I DON'T

1426
00:44:53,066 --> 00:44:54,100
KNOW CRIMINAL, WE DON'T KNOW

1427
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,233
WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO.

1428
00:44:55,333 --> 00:44:55,766
RIGHT.

1429
00:44:56,066 --> 00:44:59,366
BUT THE APPEARANCE OF THESE

1430
00:44:59,500 --> 00:45:01,233
OUTSIDE POLITICAL CONSULTANTS,

1431
00:45:01,333 --> 00:45:06,566
YOU KNOW, HAVING ENGAGED, YOU

1432
00:45:06,666 --> 00:45:08,500
KNOW, MEMBERS OF THE ATTORNEY

1433
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,200
GENERAL'S PUBLICLY PAID STAFF,

1434
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:11,466
IT'S REALLY A TROUBLING THING.

1435
00:45:11,566 --> 00:45:13,766
AND I THINK, AGAIN, I'LL

1436
00:45:14,066 --> 00:45:14,666
CONGRATULATE JAY ASHCROFT FOR

1437
00:45:14,766 --> 00:45:15,600
TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.

1438
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:17,700
I DO THINK IT'S GOOD THAT IT'S

1439
00:45:17,766 --> 00:45:20,033
BIPARTISAN IN HOW IT'S BEING

1440
00:45:20,166 --> 00:45:22,133
APPROACHED, AND I'LL STICK TO

1441
00:45:22,233 --> 00:45:23,433
THAT.

1442
00:45:23,533 --> 00:45:24,600
I CAN TELL YOU KIT BOND, THERE

1443
00:45:24,700 --> 00:45:25,266
WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ANY

1444
00:45:25,366 --> 00:45:26,133
INVESTIGATION BECAUSE THERE WAS

1445
00:45:26,233 --> 00:45:28,600
A VERY -- AND I GET CRITICIZED

1446
00:45:28,733 --> 00:45:30,500
FOR POINTING OUT ALL THE TIME,

1447
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:31,600
BUT THERE WAS A VERY FIRM LINE

1448
00:45:31,700 --> 00:45:35,100
THAT WASN'T CROSSED IN THE

1449
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,366
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IN -- WHEN KIT

1450
00:45:36,466 --> 00:45:37,100
BOND WAS GOVERNOR.

1451
00:45:37,233 --> 00:45:38,666
AND BILL, I THANK YOU FOR THE

1452
00:45:38,766 --> 00:45:39,200
LOVE.

1453
00:45:39,300 --> 00:45:45,633
I'M JUST SAYING THAT IN THESE

1454
00:45:45,733 --> 00:45:50,433
PARTISAN, I MEAN IN THESE HIGHLY

1455
00:45:50,566 --> 00:45:53,166
CHARGED TIMES, FOR CHRISTINE

1456
00:45:53,300 --> 00:45:56,166
HEISINGER TO HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO

1457
00:45:56,300 --> 00:45:58,166
CLAIRE McCASKILL -- IF SHE WERE

1458
00:45:58,266 --> 00:46:00,066
JUST A DEMOCRAT, I WOULD SAY THE

1459
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,400
OPTICS DON'T MATTER, BUT DOWN

1460
00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:03,733
THE ROAD, YOU DON'T WANT

1461
00:46:04,033 --> 00:46:05,233
ANYTHING TO JEOPARDIZE OR

1462
00:46:05,333 --> 00:46:06,133
DISCREDIT OR CALL INTO QUESTION

1463
00:46:06,233 --> 00:46:08,366
THE RESULTS OF WHAT SHE

1464
00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:08,666
UNEARTHS.

1465
00:46:08,766 --> 00:46:09,633
IT WON'T BE.

1466
00:46:09,733 --> 00:46:11,333
SHE REPORTS TO HER BOSS, THE

1467
00:46:11,433 --> 00:46:11,633
REPUBLICAN.

1468
00:46:11,766 --> 00:46:12,633
THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.

1469
00:46:12,766 --> 00:46:14,166
IT'S BEAUTIFUL THAT BOTH PARTIES

1470
00:46:14,266 --> 00:46:15,666
ARE INVOLVED TOGETHER IN THIS

1471
00:46:15,766 --> 00:46:16,700
INVESTIGATION.

1472
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,066
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.

1473
00:46:18,166 --> 00:46:21,033
SHE REPORTS TO JAY ASHCROFT.

1474
00:46:21,133 --> 00:46:23,133
ALL RIGHT, I GIVE UP, I CAN'T

1475
00:46:23,233 --> 00:46:23,766
WIN THE ARGUMENT.

1476
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:24,500
WHO'S NEXT?

1477
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:25,766
I GIVE UP.

1478
00:46:26,066 --> 00:46:28,200
LARRY IN SOUTH COUNTY.

1479
00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:35,366
HI, LARRY, WELCOME TO DONNYBROOK

1480
00:46:35,466 --> 00:46:35,766
YOUR TURN.

1481
00:46:36,066 --> 00:46:37,433
Caller: HI, GUYS.

1482
00:46:37,533 --> 00:46:39,133
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO BOTH OF YOU.

1483
00:46:39,233 --> 00:46:40,500
ON THIS CITY EARNINGS TAX THING,

1484
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,500
YEARS AGO WE MOVED FROM THE CITY

1485
00:46:41,633 --> 00:46:43,366
TO THE COUNTY AND IT HAD MORE TO

1486
00:46:43,466 --> 00:46:44,700
DO WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

1487
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,200
WE THOUGHT THAT THE SCHOOLS WERE

1488
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:49,366
BECOMING SUBPAR AND A LOT OF

1489
00:46:49,466 --> 00:46:51,266
PEOPLE WILL MOVE FOR THAT, BUT

1490
00:46:51,366 --> 00:46:52,466
THE CITY EARNINGS TAX WAS PART

1491
00:46:52,566 --> 00:46:54,766
OF IT, TOO.

1492
00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:57,166
WE MOVED TO SHREWSBURY AND, OF

1493
00:46:57,266 --> 00:46:59,166
COURSE, WE DIDN'T HAVE A CITY

1494
00:46:59,300 --> 00:46:59,666
EARNINGS TAX THERE.

1495
00:46:59,766 --> 00:47:00,166
RIGHT.

1496
00:47:00,266 --> 00:47:00,566
RIGHT.

1497
00:47:00,700 --> 00:47:04,300
I THINK THAT'S A FAIR POINT.

1498
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:05,733
I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY PROS

1499
00:47:06,066 --> 00:47:06,300
AND CONS.

1500
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,000
YOU AGREE, LARRY, THAT THE FOLKS

1501
00:47:08,100 --> 00:47:10,066
IN THE CITY AT LEAST, VOTED

1502
00:47:10,166 --> 00:47:11,100
FAIRLY OVERWHELMINGLY IN FAVOR

1503
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,566
OF IT AND YOU MAY HAVE VOTED

1504
00:47:12,666 --> 00:47:15,333
WITH YOUR FEET, I GET THAT, BUT

1505
00:47:15,433 --> 00:47:16,333
I'M JUST SAYING -- WHICH YOU

1506
00:47:16,433 --> 00:47:18,366
HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO, BUT IT WAS

1507
00:47:18,466 --> 00:47:20,000
A PRETTY CLEAR-CUT VOTE IN THE

1508
00:47:20,133 --> 00:47:21,133
CITY AND IN KANSAS CITY.

1509
00:47:21,233 --> 00:47:23,266
AND WE'VE BEEN DEBATING THIS

1510
00:47:23,366 --> 00:47:29,466
ISSUE FOR DECADES, HAVEN'T WE?

1511
00:47:29,566 --> 00:47:30,600
AND THIS WHOLE QUESTION COULDN'T

1512
00:47:30,700 --> 00:47:34,566
COME, I THINK, AT A WORST TIME

1513
00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:38,633
FOR THE CITY BECAUSE THE GAP

1514
00:47:38,733 --> 00:47:42,066
THAT WOULD BE LEFT IF WE HAD

1515
00:47:42,166 --> 00:47:43,633
THAT VACUUM WOULD BE -- WE'D BE

1516
00:47:43,733 --> 00:47:45,200
IN REAL TROUBLE.

1517
00:47:45,333 --> 00:47:46,233
LARRY, THANK YOU.

1518
00:47:46,366 --> 00:47:47,733
THANK YOU FOR THE CALL.

1519
00:47:48,033 --> 00:47:49,733
LET'S GO TO TOM IN JEFFERSON

1520
00:47:50,033 --> 00:47:50,233
COUNTY.

1521
00:47:50,366 --> 00:47:52,300
HI, TOM, YOU'RE ON DONNYBROOK,

1522
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:52,733
YOUR TURN.

1523
00:47:53,033 --> 00:47:54,266
ARE YOU THERE, TOM?

1524
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,500
SPEAK INTO THE PHONE AND NOT

1525
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:56,766
THE --

1526
00:47:57,066 --> 00:47:57,533
Caller: GOOD EVENING AND

1527
00:47:57,633 --> 00:47:59,633
MERRY CHRISTMAS.

1528
00:47:59,733 --> 00:48:00,533
YEAH, I'M HERE.

1529
00:48:00,666 --> 00:48:01,700
GOOD EVENING AND MERRY

1530
00:48:02,033 --> 00:48:02,233
CHRISTMAS.

1531
00:48:02,333 --> 00:48:02,666
MERRY CHRISTMAS.

1532
00:48:02,766 --> 00:48:04,700
WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND?

1533
00:48:05,033 --> 00:48:06,300
Caller: I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY

1534
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,300
SOMETHING ON THE EARNINGS TAX.

1535
00:48:07,433 --> 00:48:07,633
GO AHEAD.

1536
00:48:07,733 --> 00:48:11,600
OKAY.

1537
00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:14,600
Caller: YOU DON'T HAVE TO --

1538
00:48:14,733 --> 00:48:16,600
I DIDN'T LIVE IN THE CITY AND

1539
00:48:16,733 --> 00:48:18,766
WHEN I WORKED ON CONSTRUCTION OR

1540
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:20,600
FOR AN OFFICE IN ST. LOUIS, WE

1541
00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:23,100
HAD TO PAY THE EARNINGS TAX AND

1542
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,233
THERE'S NO WAY TO FILE TO GET

1543
00:48:25,333 --> 00:48:26,333
THAT MONEY BACK.

1544
00:48:26,433 --> 00:48:28,400
IT'S A LOT OF MONEY GOING TO THE

1545
00:48:28,533 --> 00:48:28,700
CITY.

1546
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,066
THAT WAS THE IDEA, THAT WHILE

1547
00:48:31,166 --> 00:48:32,100
YOU WERE WORKING IN CONSTRUCTION

1548
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,566
IN THE CITY, IF YOU NEEDED A

1549
00:48:34,666 --> 00:48:35,500
POLICEMAN OR A --

1550
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:36,766
OR A FIREFIGHTER.

1551
00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:39,466
OR A FIREFIGHTER OR A MEDIC

1552
00:48:39,566 --> 00:48:42,700
OR YOU NEEDED THE STREETS TO NOT

1553
00:48:43,033 --> 00:48:44,666
HAVE POTHOLES, YOU WERE -- THE

1554
00:48:44,766 --> 00:48:46,466
CITY WAS COVERING THAT COST FOR

1555
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,733
YOU AS THEY DO FOR US WHEN WE

1556
00:48:49,066 --> 00:48:51,400
COME TO THE COUNTY TO CHANNEL 9.

1557
00:48:51,500 --> 00:48:53,333
THAT'S THE THEORY AT LEAST.

1558
00:48:53,433 --> 00:48:55,400
THAT MAKE SENSE?

1559
00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:56,533
Caller: HOW MUCH -- I DON'T

1560
00:48:56,633 --> 00:48:57,033
KNOW.

1561
00:48:57,133 --> 00:48:58,600
I'M ASKING A QUESTION.

1562
00:48:58,700 --> 00:48:59,766
HOW MUCH REVENUE DOES THAT BRING

1563
00:49:00,066 --> 00:49:01,266
INTO THE CITY EACH YEAR?

1564
00:49:01,366 --> 00:49:03,333
I SHOULD KNOW THAT AND I

1565
00:49:03,433 --> 00:49:03,766
DON'T REMEMBER THAT.

1566
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:05,633
100 -- IT'S AT LEAST --

1567
00:49:05,733 --> 00:49:08,033
IT'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER.

1568
00:49:08,133 --> 00:49:10,666
IT'S 100-PLUS MILLION.

1569
00:49:10,766 --> 00:49:11,366
100-PLUS MILLION DOLLARS.

1570
00:49:11,466 --> 00:49:12,466
A SIGNIFICANT SOURCE OF

1571
00:49:12,566 --> 00:49:13,133
REVENUE FOR THE CITY.

1572
00:49:13,233 --> 00:49:15,366
I THINK IT'S A THIRD OF THE

1573
00:49:15,466 --> 00:49:17,600
OPERATING -- 30%, I APOLOGIZE, I

1574
00:49:17,700 --> 00:49:20,400
THINK IT'S ROUGHLY 30% OF THE

1575
00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:21,400
OPERATING BUDGET.

1576
00:49:21,500 --> 00:49:22,666
AND IT FOLLOWS CITY RESIDENTS

1577
00:49:22,766 --> 00:49:24,066
IF THEY WORK IN THE COUNTY AND

1578
00:49:24,166 --> 00:49:25,700
THAT'S THE -- IN A PERFECT

1579
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,133
WORLD, MAYBE EVERYBODY WOULD

1580
00:49:30,233 --> 00:49:33,633
HAVE THE EARNINGS TACT AND IT

1581
00:49:33,766 --> 00:49:36,400
WOULDN'T IMPEDIMENT TO THE CITY,

1582
00:49:36,533 --> 00:49:38,500
BUT WE HAD AN ELECTION AND THE

1583
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,400
POINT IS EVERY FIVE YEARS,

1584
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:41,400
UNFORTUNATELY, THE VOTERS HAVE

1585
00:49:41,533 --> 00:49:44,766
TO REDECIDE THIS POINT AND FOR A

1586
00:49:45,066 --> 00:49:47,433
STATE SENATOR FROM ANYWHERE

1587
00:49:47,533 --> 00:49:49,033
OUTSIDE OF THE CITY TO BE TRYING

1588
00:49:49,166 --> 00:49:52,600
TO FOIST THIS ON PEOPLE IS JUST

1589
00:49:52,700 --> 00:49:53,300
AWFUL.

1590
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:54,733
WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE VOTE.

1591
00:49:55,066 --> 00:49:56,633
TO ALVIN'S SUGGESTION THAT

1592
00:49:56,733 --> 00:50:01,633
THIS HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH A

1593
00:50:01,766 --> 00:50:02,633
BETTER TOGETHER TYPE OF SCENARIO

1594
00:50:02,766 --> 00:50:03,566
AND THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE

1595
00:50:03,666 --> 00:50:05,233
CITY AND THE COUNTY, THAT'S

1596
00:50:05,366 --> 00:50:06,366
GOING TO BE REALLY INTERESTING

1597
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:08,033
TO WATCH.

1598
00:50:08,133 --> 00:50:09,500
THE CONCEPT IS VERY

1599
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,033
TROUBLESOME.

1600
00:50:10,133 --> 00:50:10,666
YES, TOM, THANK YOU.

1601
00:50:10,766 --> 00:50:13,200
LET'S GO TO CAROLYN FROM

1602
00:50:13,300 --> 00:50:13,700
BELLEVILLE.

1603
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,200
HI, CAROLYN.

1604
00:50:16,300 --> 00:50:17,266
Caller: HI.

1605
00:50:17,366 --> 00:50:18,333
HOW ARE YOU?

1606
00:50:18,433 --> 00:50:22,400
Caller: I'M FINE, THANK YOU.

1607
00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:24,533
I'M CALLING REGARDING THE LADUE

1608
00:50:24,633 --> 00:50:27,600
STUDENT MAKING THE SIGN.

1609
00:50:27,733 --> 00:50:28,733
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS IN HIS

1610
00:50:29,066 --> 00:50:29,200
HEART.

1611
00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:31,233
MAYBE IT WAS HARMLESS OR MAYBE

1612
00:50:31,333 --> 00:50:32,500
IT'S A PART OF A SUBCULTURE

1613
00:50:32,633 --> 00:50:36,666
THAT'S A RESULT OF THE PRESIDENT

1614
00:50:36,766 --> 00:50:37,500
THAT WE HAVE.

1615
00:50:37,633 --> 00:50:39,133
THE PRESIDENT CALLED HIMSELF A

1616
00:50:39,233 --> 00:50:39,466
NATIONALIST.

1617
00:50:39,566 --> 00:50:40,600
HE'S A WHITE NATIONALIST.

1618
00:50:40,700 --> 00:50:42,400
AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN, WHEN I

1619
00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:43,733
HEAR WHITE NATIONALIST, I THINK

1620
00:50:44,033 --> 00:50:47,500
OF KKK AND NEO NAZI.

1621
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,600
I THINK THE CLIMATE HAS BECOME

1622
00:50:50,700 --> 00:50:53,100
UNHEALTHY, ESPECIALLY SINCE HE

1623
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,233
BECAME PRESIDENT.

1624
00:50:54,333 --> 00:50:56,166
I THINK THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP

1625
00:50:56,266 --> 00:50:58,700
APPEALS TO PEOPLE'S FEAR AND

1626
00:50:58,766 --> 00:50:59,733
IGNORANCE, AND I THINK THAT'S

1627
00:51:00,033 --> 00:51:00,566
WHAT'S GOING ON.

1628
00:51:00,666 --> 00:51:02,600
THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT.

1629
00:51:02,733 --> 00:51:03,466
THANK YOU.

1630
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,433
OKAY.

1631
00:51:05,533 --> 00:51:06,166
THANK YOU.

1632
00:51:06,266 --> 00:51:09,100
IT IS REALLY HARD FOR ME TO

1633
00:51:09,233 --> 00:51:10,766
BELIEVE, BECAUSE THIS PRESIDENT

1634
00:51:11,066 --> 00:51:13,166
LITERALLY SHOOTS HIMSELF IN THE

1635
00:51:13,266 --> 00:51:15,600
FOOT ON AN HOURLY BASIS, IT'S

1636
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:18,233
VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO BELIEVE

1637
00:51:18,333 --> 00:51:20,166
THAT WHEN HE SAID THAT HE WAS --

1638
00:51:20,266 --> 00:51:23,566
WHEN HE CALLED HIMSELF A

1639
00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:25,433
NATIONALIST, THAT HE UNDERSTOOD

1640
00:51:25,533 --> 00:51:27,200
THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT ANY

1641
00:51:27,300 --> 00:51:31,066
MORE THAN HE UNDERSTANDS THE

1642
00:51:31,166 --> 00:51:34,233
IMPLICATIONS OF 10 OUT OF 20 OF

1643
00:51:34,333 --> 00:51:36,333
HIS TWEETS DURING THE DAY.

1644
00:51:36,433 --> 00:51:38,466
BUT I -- AND I RESPECT WHAT

1645
00:51:38,566 --> 00:51:42,233
YOU'RE SAYING, CAROLYN, AND --

1646
00:51:42,333 --> 00:51:44,200
WE'LL KEEP IT LOW CUT.

1647
00:51:44,300 --> 00:51:46,100
I DO AGREE WITH CAROLYN, BUT I

1648
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,533
WILL SAY IN THE CASE OF THIS,

1649
00:51:47,633 --> 00:51:48,733
I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THIS

1650
00:51:49,033 --> 00:51:50,733
PARTICULAR INSTANCE IN LADUE WAS

1651
00:51:51,033 --> 00:51:53,266
A CASE OF THE KID DOING A

1652
00:51:53,366 --> 00:51:53,666
NATIONALIST SIGN.

1653
00:51:53,766 --> 00:51:55,066
I DON'T KNOW.

1654
00:51:55,166 --> 00:51:57,666
AND AS I SAY, I -- IT WAS AN

1655
00:51:57,766 --> 00:51:59,166
INTERESTING CONVERSATION WITH

1656
00:51:59,300 --> 00:52:01,266
BILL AND CHARLIE ABOUT HOW IT

1657
00:52:01,366 --> 00:52:02,166
SHOULD BE COVERED AND THAT'S

1658
00:52:02,300 --> 00:52:03,300
REALLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, BUT

1659
00:52:03,433 --> 00:52:04,666
I AGREE WITH CAROLYN IN GENERAL

1660
00:52:04,766 --> 00:52:07,000
ABOUT THE SENTIMENT ABOUT THE

1661
00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:08,166
PRESIDENT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT

1662
00:52:08,266 --> 00:52:10,666
IT'S FAIR TO NECESSARILY -- I

1663
00:52:10,766 --> 00:52:12,300
JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AT

1664
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:13,300
LADUE, IF ANYTHING.

1665
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:13,633
WE'LL SEE.

1666
00:52:13,766 --> 00:52:15,566
THANK YOU FOR CALLING,

1667
00:52:15,666 --> 00:52:16,066
CAROLYN.

1668
00:52:16,166 --> 00:52:18,233
THANK YOU FOR THE CALL.

1669
00:52:18,333 --> 00:52:22,200
LET'S GO TO TERRY FROM O'FALLON,

1670
00:52:22,300 --> 00:52:22,700
ILLINOIS.

1671
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:23,466
HI, TERRY.

1672
00:52:23,566 --> 00:52:24,166
Caller: HELLO.

1673
00:52:24,266 --> 00:52:24,766
YOU'RE ON THE AIR.

1674
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:25,666
Caller: GOOD.

1675
00:52:25,766 --> 00:52:27,300
I HAVE TWO THINGS THAT I'D LIKE

1676
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,266
TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT.

1677
00:52:30,366 --> 00:52:37,133
THE FIRST ONE IS THE GSA SITE, I

1678
00:52:37,233 --> 00:52:38,700
BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, THE

1679
00:52:38,766 --> 00:52:40,466
GEOSPATIAL -- I THINK THAT'S

1680
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,466
PROBABLY THE BIGGEST WASTE OF

1681
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,433
TAXPAYER MONEY THAT THE

1682
00:52:45,533 --> 00:52:48,166
ST. LOUIS REGION HAS SEEN SINCE

1683
00:52:48,266 --> 00:52:50,000
PRUITT IGO.

1684
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:53,066
THEY COULD HAVE BUILT THAT ON

1685
00:52:53,166 --> 00:52:54,766
THE SITE FREE OF CHARGE FOR THE

1686
00:52:55,066 --> 00:52:55,766
LAND AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN

1687
00:52:56,100 --> 00:52:57,166
RIGHT THERE WHERE A VAST

1688
00:52:57,266 --> 00:52:59,266
MAJORITY OF THEIR WORK CAME FROM

1689
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:00,600
WITHOUT HAVING TO RUN NEW

1690
00:53:00,700 --> 00:53:02,266
COMMUNICATIONS LINES ACROSS THE

1691
00:53:02,366 --> 00:53:02,500
RIVER.

1692
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,433
OKAY, RIGHT.

1693
00:53:05,566 --> 00:53:06,533
Caller: THAT'S ABOUT ALL I

1694
00:53:06,633 --> 00:53:08,500
WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT ONE.

1695
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,066
HOWEVER, ON THE KID WITH THE

1696
00:53:11,166 --> 00:53:17,400
OKAY SIGN SUPPOSEDLY, MAYBE A

1697
00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:20,566
LITTLE HUMOR HERE.

1698
00:53:20,666 --> 00:53:24,000
IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE SHOW

1699
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:27,133
SEINFELD, THERE WAS AN EPISODE

1700
00:53:27,233 --> 00:53:28,466
WHERE KRAMER GOT MIXED UP WITH

1701
00:53:28,566 --> 00:53:30,266
THE VAN BUREN GANG AND THEY HAD

1702
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,200
A SIGN VERY SIMILAR TO THAT.

1703
00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:36,666
MAYBE THAT'S WHAT HE WAS GIVING.

1704
00:53:36,766 --> 00:53:38,033
I DON'T KNOW.

1705
00:53:38,133 --> 00:53:40,400
KRAMER HAD HIS OWN PROBLEMS.

1706
00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:41,533
I GET YOUR POINT.

1707
00:53:41,633 --> 00:53:44,200
YOU'RE IN ST. CLAIR COUNTY,

1708
00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:44,466
CORRECT?

1709
00:53:44,566 --> 00:53:47,266
Caller: CORRECT.

1710
00:53:47,366 --> 00:53:49,466
AND LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

1711
00:53:49,566 --> 00:53:51,266
IF YOU'RE OUT OF TOWN AND

1712
00:53:51,366 --> 00:53:52,600
SOMEBODY SAYS WHERE ARE YOU

1713
00:53:52,700 --> 00:53:55,433
FROM, WHAT'S YOUR ANSWER?

1714
00:53:55,533 --> 00:53:57,366
Caller: I'M FROM O'FALLON?

1715
00:53:57,466 --> 00:53:59,166
YOU DON'T SAY ST. LOUIS?

1716
00:53:59,266 --> 00:54:00,566
THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS

1717
00:54:00,666 --> 00:54:01,033
MAKING.

1718
00:54:01,133 --> 00:54:03,333
I THINK THE CITY WAS

1719
00:54:03,433 --> 00:54:03,666
PERFECTLY --

1720
00:54:03,766 --> 00:54:05,133
WITHIN ITS RIGHTS.

1721
00:54:05,233 --> 00:54:06,733
DID THE RIGHT THING TO KEEP

1722
00:54:07,033 --> 00:54:09,766
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE

1723
00:54:10,100 --> 00:54:12,333
LARGE OPERATION HERE, AND HAVING

1724
00:54:12,433 --> 00:54:13,433
SAID THAT, I ALSO TRY TO MAKE

1725
00:54:13,566 --> 00:54:15,066
THE POINT THAT I THINK YOU'RE AS

1726
00:54:15,166 --> 00:54:16,300
MUCH A PART OF ST. LOUIS AS

1727
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,333
ST. LOUIS IS, BUT APPARENTLY YOU

1728
00:54:18,433 --> 00:54:19,766
DON'T REALLY LOOK AT -- YOU LOOK

1729
00:54:20,066 --> 00:54:21,166
AT YOURSELF AS NOT FROM

1730
00:54:21,266 --> 00:54:24,133
ST. LOUIS, IS THAT CORRECT?

1731
00:54:24,233 --> 00:54:25,200
Caller: WELL, I HAVE FAMILY

1732
00:54:25,333 --> 00:54:27,266
ON BOTH SIDES OF THE RIVER AND

1733
00:54:27,366 --> 00:54:29,500
WE'VE HAD FAMILY ON BOTH SIDES

1734
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,333
OF THE RIVER FOR MANY YEARS.

1735
00:54:32,433 --> 00:54:34,400
BUT IF THE CARDINALS --

1736
00:54:34,533 --> 00:54:36,066
IN THE CARDINALS WERE IN THE

1737
00:54:36,166 --> 00:54:40,166
WORLD SERIES, WHERE ARE YOU

1738
00:54:40,266 --> 00:54:40,400
FROM?

1739
00:54:40,533 --> 00:54:42,333
ST. LOUIS!

1740
00:54:42,433 --> 00:54:45,166
Caller: OH, I'M MORE OR LESS

1741
00:54:45,266 --> 00:54:46,433
A RACING ENTHUSIAST.

1742
00:54:46,533 --> 00:54:48,100
HOWEVER, I PAY ATTENTION TO THE

1743
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:48,633
CARDINALS IN THE PLAYOFFS.

1744
00:54:48,733 --> 00:54:49,666
OF COURSE, YOU DO.

1745
00:54:49,766 --> 00:54:51,200
THAT'S FINE, WE'RE ALL ONE

1746
00:54:51,300 --> 00:54:52,200
COMMUNITY HERE, BUT THANKS FOR

1747
00:54:52,300 --> 00:54:53,333
THE CALL, TERRY.

1748
00:54:53,433 --> 00:54:54,633
THANK YOU, TERRY.

1749
00:54:54,733 --> 00:54:56,200
THANKS TO ALL OUR VIEWERS ON

1750
00:54:56,300 --> 00:54:58,033
BOTH SIDES OF THE RIVER.

1751
00:54:58,133 --> 00:54:59,700
LET'S GO TO BRIAN WHO'S IN SOUTH

1752
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,233
COUNTY, WHICH I THINK IS PART OF

1753
00:55:01,366 --> 00:55:01,566
ST. LOUIS.

1754
00:55:01,666 --> 00:55:03,300
I THINK IT IS, UNLESS THERE'S

1755
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,366
BEEN AN EARTHQUAKE.

1756
00:55:05,466 --> 00:55:06,366
HI, BRIAN.

1757
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:09,400
Caller: IT IS A PART OF

1758
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:11,300
ST. LOUIS AND AS A COUNTY

1759
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,666
RESIDENT, THERE'S A LOT OF

1760
00:55:12,766 --> 00:55:14,700
REASONS WHY I DON'T LIVE IN THE

1761
00:55:15,033 --> 00:55:18,566
CITY, BUT I SUPPORT THE CITY

1762
00:55:18,700 --> 00:55:21,166
100% AND YOU -- I'M FOR THE

1763
00:55:21,300 --> 00:55:21,533
EARNINGS TAX.

1764
00:55:21,633 --> 00:55:25,100
I WORK TWO PART-TIME JOBS IN THE

1765
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,066
CITY AND I'M SURPRISED NO ONE

1766
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:28,300
HAS USED THIS TERM.

1767
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,066
IT'S A NECESSARY EVIL.

1768
00:55:30,166 --> 00:55:32,733
IT'S A THIRD OF THE CITY'S

1769
00:55:33,033 --> 00:55:37,100
BUDGET AND IF YOU SLASH A THIRD

1770
00:55:37,233 --> 00:55:41,366
OF THE CITY'S BUDGET, THE CITY

1771
00:55:41,466 --> 00:55:43,233
IS GOING TO GO DOWN THE TUBES

1772
00:55:43,333 --> 00:55:44,533
AND WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY IS

1773
00:55:44,666 --> 00:55:45,700
GOOD FOR THE REGION AS A WHOLE.

1774
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:46,366
THANK YOU.

1775
00:55:46,466 --> 00:55:47,500
Caller: I LIVE IN SOUTH

1776
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,366
COUNTY AND IT'S NOT EXACTLY

1777
00:55:49,466 --> 00:55:49,666
THRIVING.

1778
00:55:49,766 --> 00:55:51,300
IF THE CITY WERE THRIVING MORE,

1779
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,533
THE REGION WOULD BE THRIVING

1780
00:55:52,633 --> 00:55:52,766
MORE.

1781
00:55:53,066 --> 00:55:58,266
THE CITY IS THE HEART OF THE

1782
00:55:58,366 --> 00:55:59,333
REGION WHETHER YOU WANT TO

1783
00:55:59,466 --> 00:56:00,700
ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT AND THE

1784
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:01,733
ONE PERCENT EARNINGS TAX, WHILE

1785
00:56:02,066 --> 00:56:04,066
I DON'T LIKE IT COMING OUT OF MY

1786
00:56:04,166 --> 00:56:04,700
PAYCHECK, IT IS A NECESSARY

1787
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:05,133
EVIL.

1788
00:56:05,233 --> 00:56:06,666
WELL SAID.

1789
00:56:06,766 --> 00:56:08,366
WELL SAID, BRIAN.

1790
00:56:08,466 --> 00:56:10,466
DO WE HAVE TIME FOR ONE MORE

1791
00:56:10,566 --> 00:56:10,733
CALLER?

1792
00:56:11,033 --> 00:56:13,066
WE HAVE TO BE REALLY QUICK, BOB

1793
00:56:13,166 --> 00:56:13,633
FROM ST. LOUIS.

1794
00:56:13,766 --> 00:56:15,200
YOU HAVE ABOUT 15 SECONDS.

1795
00:56:15,300 --> 00:56:17,266
Caller: HEY, THIS IS BOB.

1796
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:18,666
HOW YOU GUYS DOING?

1797
00:56:18,766 --> 00:56:19,566
YOU LOOK UP THERE.

1798
00:56:19,666 --> 00:56:23,600
I NECESSITY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

1799
00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:25,266
TSH NOTICE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

1800
00:56:25,366 --> 00:56:25,700
THE TAX.

1801
00:56:25,766 --> 00:56:27,033
REALLY QUICK, BOB.

1802
00:56:27,133 --> 00:56:29,300
WE'RE ABOUT OUT OF TIME.

1803
00:56:29,433 --> 00:56:30,666
Caller: MY THING WAS, OKAY,

1804
00:56:30,766 --> 00:56:32,400
IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAX, FINE.

1805
00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:33,400
YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT

1806
00:56:33,500 --> 00:56:34,300
POTHOLES AND EVERYTHING.

1807
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:35,700
I HAVEN'T LIVED HERE THIS LORNG,

1808
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,233
BUT I NOTICE WHEN IT RAINS, YOU

1809
00:56:37,333 --> 00:56:38,466
CAN'T SEE THE ROADS.

1810
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,133
MAYBE THEY COULD THROW SOME OF

1811
00:56:40,233 --> 00:56:41,433
THAT INTO PAINT.

1812
00:56:41,533 --> 00:56:45,733
YOU CAN'T SEE LINES AND THEN THE

1813
00:56:46,033 --> 00:56:48,600
POTHOLES ARE THERE.

1814
00:56:48,700 --> 00:56:50,000
WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

1815
00:56:50,133 --> 00:56:51,666
WE WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU

1816
00:56:51,766 --> 00:56:53,400
ACROSS OUR REGION FOR SUPPORTING

1817
00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:55,500
CHANNEL 9 AND WATCHING US AND

1818
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:56,766
WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN NEXT

1819
00:56:57,100 --> 00:56:57,466
THURSDAY NIGHT.

1820
00:56:57,566 --> 00:56:58,600
YES, WE WILL.

1821
00:56:58,700 --> 00:57:01,033
HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.