>> IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT FAIR
IS, YOU CAN'T MAKE IT.
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>>> THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR
ANOTHER EDITION AFTER A COUPLE
WEEKS OF A HIATUS AND THANKS FOR
OUR FRIENDS FOR MAKING THIS
POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS WHO ARE
SEATED AROUND THE BIG GREEN
TABLE AFTER THE BIG MISSOURI
PRIMARY.
SHE IS THE MEDIA VETERAN
HERSELF, WENDY WEEKS.
ALONG WITH STL TODAY AND BILL
MCCOLLIN.
PUBLISHER AND COLONEL --
COLUMNIST.
ALLEN REED.
YOU ARE AT THE HEADQUARTERS ON
TUESDAY NIGHT.
AND OH, MY GOODNESS.
THE FIRST TIME HE RAN FOR
OFFICE.
HE WON IN THE PRIMARY ON THE
REPUBLICAN SIDE.
HE'S THE GUY WHO RAISED EYEBROWS
IN HIS POLITICAL COMMERCIALS.
NAVY SEAL, BEST SELLING AUTHOR
AND HOW DO YOU THINK HE WON THIS
PAST TUESDAY?
>> I GOT TO TELL YOU, REAL
QUICK.
SO MANY THINGS HAPPENED.
FIRST OF ALL, FOUR PERSON RACE.
YOU THINK IT'S 11:00, MIDNIGHT.
I'M DRIVING OUT THERE AT 8:35.
I HEAR PEOPLE SAYING HE'S GOING
TO COME DOWN.
WENT THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF
MISSOURI.
DURING HIS SPEECH, HE WAS
HUMOROUS AND CORDILE.
AND HE DID LAUNCH FOR A BIT OF
HIS SPEECH.
MAYBE THAT'S THE ONLY
HYPOTHETICAL HE WAS A REPUBLICAN
DURING THAT ENTIRE SPEECH.
HE WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN.
CAN HE BEAT CUSTER?
I DON'T KNOW.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, APPARENTLY,
HE WON EASILY.
AND LASTLY, A LOT OF BAD BLOOD
BETWEEN THOSE FOLKS THERE.
>> AND ISN'T IT FASCINATING THAT
YOU HAVE A REPUBLICAN NOMINEE
WHO IS A FORMER DEMOCRAT AND A
DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE WHO IS A
FORMER REPUBLICAN.
SO NO WONDER.
THEY ARE SORT OF INTER
CHANGEABLE.
>> ON THE PARTY LABELS DON'T
MEAN ANYTHING.
I THINK ONE OF THE DEFINING
THINGS WAS HE HAD THE MOST MONEY
WHICH ISN'T A GUARANTEE.
IT WAS INTERESTING.
WE HAD TALKED AND TURNED OUT TO
BE THE TWO OUTSIDERS AT TOP AND
OUTSIDERS BEAT INSIDERS IN THAT
RACE BIG TIME.
PETER AND CATHERINE CAME IN AT
THE BOTTOM.
AND IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN WHAT
THEY ARE FOR WITH REGARD TO
STATE GOVERNMENT.
WE'LL HAVE TO SEE IT.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS
VETTED IN THIS RACE.
HE HAS ONE BASIC ARGUMENT WHICH
IS HE IS AN OUTSIDER.
HE'S GOING TO COME IN, CHANGE
THE CULTURE IN JEFFERSON CITY.
RESPECTFULLY, HE'S NOT GOING TO
DO THAT.
FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S GREAT.
SOUNDS GREAT TO SAY WE'RE GOING
TO END GIFTS FROM LOBBYISTS.
GREAT TO SAY AND SOMETHING MOST
OF US WOULD THINK IS WORTHWHILE.
BUT NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
WHAT CAN HE ACTUALLY DO?
>> WHATEVER HE MAY OR MAY NOT BE
ABLE TO DO.
HIS SPEECH WAS TERRIFIC.
I USED TO THINK CASA WAS GOING
TO BE PRESIDENT.
AND NOW I THINK HE MIGHT BE
PRESIDENT.
AND I VOTED IN THE REPUBLICAN
PRIMARY.
>> HE WAS OBVIOUSLY SOME
MODIFICATIONS.
DO YOU STILL AGREE WITH MY
EARLIER ASSESSMENT THAT IT'S
TRUMP-ESQUE?
>> SOMEWHAT.
LET ME SAY THIS.
TO WENDY'S POINT.
THE COMMERCIAL HE HAD WITH THE
HOWITZER WAS BIZARRE.
IT WAS WEIRD.
NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SUBSTANCE
OF THE COMMERCIAL.
THEY SHOWED HIM WITH A FULLY
AUTOMATIC MACHINE PUMPING
BULLETS INTO THE DISTANCE.
WHAT THE HECK IS THAT ALL ABOUT?
CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THAT.
>> HERE'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
HE HAS NOT SAID ANYTHING IN THIS
ELECTION THAT'S RELEVANT TO THE
JOB HE'S SEEKING.
WHAT DID HE THINK ABOUT THE
TOBACCO?
>> IT'S A FAIR POINT.
>> PEOPLE ARE SICK OF WHAT GOES
DOWN IN JEFFERSON CITY.
WHEN SOMEBODY GOES DOWN AND SAY
WHATEVER I'M GOING TO DO, IT'S
NOT GOING TO BE BUSINESS AS
USUAL.
>> WHAT HAPPENS THOUGH, WHO IS
THE GUY THAT WON THE MINNESOTA
RACE?
>> JESSE VENTURA.
THAT'S WHAT YOU GET.
>> ONE THING HE DID SAY AND THIS
IS THE SPEECH.
HE SAID BOTH PARTIES HAVE MADE
OUR STATE AN EMBARRASSMENT AND
WE ARE KNOWN AS A NATIONAL
DISGRACE.
AND HE WENT THROUGH AND WITH
PEOPLE ESPECIALLY.
AND ESPECIALLY REPUBLICANS.
THE FIRST THING OUT OF THEIR
MOUTH IS OBAMA BAD, DEMOCRAT
BAD.
ALL THEIR FAULT.
HE DID NOT SAY THAT AND
REPUBLICANS STILL VOTED FOR HIM.
I THINK THAT'S A MESSAGE THAT A
LOT OF PEOPLE HEARD IN THE STATE
THAT WE HAVE NOT HEARD IN AT
LEAST 12 YEARS.
>> I WOULD HAVE PAID A MILLION
DOLLARS TO BE A FLY ON THE WALL
WHERE CATHERINE AND PETER AND
JOHN WERE LOOKING AT EACH OTHER
LIKE WHAT HAPPENED?
>> REAL QUICK, CATHERINE
HANNOWAY.
IN JANUARY, SHE WAS GOING TO BE
THE NEXT GOVERNOR.
SHE DIDN'T BOUNCE BACK.
>> OKAY.
REAL QUICK AND THEN WE GOT TO
MOVE ON.
>> ONE THING.
I THINK ONE PREDICTION WE SHOULD
BE ABLE TO AGREE ON IS THIS WILL
BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE RACE.
HE'S A GOOD CANDIDATE WITH SOME
SPECIFICS.
BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS IF
THEY GET TO TALKING ABOUT REAL
ISSUES.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU WENDY, JOHN
BRUNER ISSUED A RETRACTION ABOUT
COMMENTS HE MADE WHERE HE
ACCUSED ONE OF BRU INSURING ER'S
DONORS, MAYBE SECOND LARGEST
DONOR.
HE GOT A $1.9 MILLION DONATION
AT THE LAST MINUTE LAST WEEK
FROM AN UNNAMED SOURCE.
NONETHELESS, MICHAEL GOGAN GIVES
MONEY TO GRIGHTON.
BRUNER SAYS HE HAS A SEX SLAVE.
HE RETRACTED IT AFTER THE
ELECTION.
>> HE'S GOING TO BE SUED.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IS A
REALITY.
HE'S GOING TO BE SUED FOR THAT.
SO IF I WERE HIS ATTORNEY, I
WOULD BE SAYING LOOK, YOU'VE GOT
TO DO SOMETHING TO DISTANCE
YOURSELF FROM THE PRIMARY
COMMERCIAL THAT I HEARD DRIVING
DOWN THE ROAD.
AND I WAS LIKE WITH OREGON,
SOUNDED LIKE A VINTAGE PRIZE
MOVIE.
THAT'S REALLY CREEPY.
THAT'S ALL THIS IS ABOUT.
>> I THINK IN THE POST DISTANCE
SAID THAT BRUNER WOULDN'T GET
TOGETHER BECAUSE HE WANTS HIM TO
FOLLOW OFF THE DOGS AND HE SAYS
I CAN'T DO THAT.
IT SOUNDS RIDICULOUS TO ME.
I'M SURE THIS IS PART OF THAT
THAT YOU GOT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE
GUY.
>> IF YOU ARE THE OUTSIDER, WHY
WOULD GRIGHTON AFTER ALL OF THAT
UNPLEASANTNESS WITH THE
RECORDING AND THE BACK OF THE
CAR AND ALL THAT STUFF.
WHY WOULD HE DO ANYTHING FOR
BRUNER?
>> UNITY.
>> UNITY?
HE CAN DO IT ON HIS OWN.
THEY RECEIPT I CANNILY, I --
THEORETICALLY, I THINK HE WANTS
THE PARTY TO COME TOGETHER.
DROP THE LAWSUIT, WOULD YOU?
>> OKAY.
LET ME MOVE ON TO BILL.
BILL, YOU VOTED FOR BEV
RANDALLS.
SHE GOT MONEY.
SPENT ABOUT $11 MILLION ON
TUESDAY'S PRIMARY ELECTIONS. BUT
MANY OF HIS CANDIDATES LIKE
CATHERINE, KURT, THEY ALL LOST.
YOU VOTED FOR RANDALLS.
>> YES, I DID.
I'M NOT NORMALLY A REPUBLICAN.
THE BALLOT WAS A LOT MORE
INTERESTING.
I THOUGHT I'LL VOTE IN THE
REPUBLICAN PRIMARY.
AND VOTE PERSONAL WAYS. I
THOUGHT GRIGHTON WAS A GOOD
CANDIDATE.
HE HAD REFUSED TO COME TO TALK.
I THOUGHT THE HECK WITH HIM AND
I VOTED FOR BRUNER.
AND I THOUGHT HE NEVER GETS A
RETURN ON HIS MONEY.
SO I THOUGHT YOU KNOW, I'M GOING
TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE FOR HER.
I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT
HE
HER.
>> IT'S REALLY STUNNING.
HIS LOSING RECORD WITH THE
AMOUNT OF MONEY HE SPENT.
IT'S STUNNING HOW YOU CAN SPEND
AS MUCH MONEY AS HE DOES ONE
CYCLE AFTER ANOTHER.
FIGHTING THE CITY EARNING'S TAX
AND KEEP LOSING AND LOSING
COMING BACK FOR MORE.
AND DO SOMETHING ADMIRABLE ABOUT
IT.
>> AT SOME POINT, IT'S HIS MONEY
AND DO WHAT HE WANTS.
BUT I GUESS IF HE WANTS TO DO
IT.
>> DID ANYBODY SEE -- AND I HOPE
I'M PRONOUNCING IT CORRECTLY.
SARAH SENSKY.
SHE HAD A HUMOROUS TWEET ABOUT
REX SINGFIELD'S KIDS AND
THINKING ABOUT POLITICAL
INTEREST AND HOW MUCH IT'S
COSTING THEM.
>> HERE'S THE THING I THINK THAT
HAPPENS. AS MUCH MONEY AS REX
GAVE, OUTSIDERS IN WASHINGTON
AND CALIFORNIA GAVE MORE.
>> THAT WAS KIND OF A LOSER.
I THINK THAT WAS GOING TO PASS.
OKAY, SCHAFFER.
HE GOT BLASTED.
IF YOU SAID DOUBLE DIGITS.
I SAID THAT'S CRAZY.
HE GOT BLOWN OUT.
IF I MISSED IT, I ASKED COULD
SOMEBODY HAVE NOT TOLD ME THIS
WAS COMING DOWN THE LINE.
>> THESE AREN'T $20,000
CONTRIBUTIONS.
>> HERE'S THE THING.
KURT LOST TO JOSH HOLLY WHO RAN
FOR THE FIRST TIME ON TUESDAY.
HE WAS A LAW PROFESSOR.
NEVER HELD ELECTIVE OFFICE.
AS FAR AS I KNOW NEVER RUN
BEFORE.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THESE ONE
TIME -- FIRST TIME OUT GUYS WHO
ARE WINNING AND DID IT ACROSS
THE BOARD?
>> MORE THAN ANY ELECTION CYCLE
EVER, THAT'S BEEN THE THING.
OUTSIDE BEATS INSIDE.
AND THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION
IS GOING TO BE SEEN NEXT YEAR
AND THE YEAR AFTER WHEN SOME OF
THESE OUTSIDERS ARE ACTUALLY
TAKING OFFICE.
I WORK IN A GOVERNOR'S OFFICE
AND NO IT ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE.
BUT I WORKED FOR A VERY GOOD
GOVERNOR.
AND IT'S NOT NOTHING.
NOW, IMMUNITIY, IF YOU HAVE GOOD
JUDGMENT AND YOU ARE SMART, IT'S
NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.
BUT IT'S ALSO NOT NOTHING.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
VOTERS EXPECT TO HAVE SOME IDEA
FROM CANDIDATES WHAT THEY
PROPOSED TO DO ON SUBJECTS THAT
ARE RELEVANT.
IN OTHER WORDS, I MEAN THERE ARE
ENOUGH LEGITIMATE ISSUES OUT
THERE AND I DON'T THINK --
PEOPLE OUGHT TO EXPECT THIS IS A
PRIMAR
PRIMARY.
>> THE TWO PARTIES ARE RUNNING
AGAINST EACH OTHER.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT, GRIGHTON WAS
SMART ENOUGH TO WIN IN A FIELD
OF INSIDERS.
AND JOHN BRUNER STILL KIND OF AN
OUTSIDER.
HE LOOKS LIKE AN INSIDER
COMPARED TO GRIGHTON.
HE'S SMART ENOUGH TO UP HIS
GAME.
>> I THINK HE'S TRUMP WITHOUT
THE BIGOTRY.
>> I DISAGREE TOTALLY.
>> AS AN EXAMPLE, HE'S GOING TO
DO THINGS LIKE CHANGE THE
CULTURE OF THE CITY.
HE DOESN'T SAY HOW. A LOT LIKE
WHAT TRUMP DOES ON A NATIONAL
LEVEL.
>> HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY
PROTECTION.
>> HOW ABOUT ROBIN SMITH?
>> I LIKE ROBIN.
SHE'S A PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT.
SHE'S GOING TO BE FINE.
>> AND NOW SHE'S GOING TO BE THE
SECRETARY OF STATE IN THE
ELECTION?
>> I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
>> IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE BUT
YOU DO NEED TO HAVE KNOWLEDGE
ABOUT THE JOB.
>> I DID.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT
WE'LL SEE HOW THESE PEOPLE THAT
HAVE NEVER SERVED IN OFFICE DO.
A LOT OF PEOPLE GET ELECTED AS A
FIRST JOB TO OFFICE.
NEVER SEEN AN ISSUE WHERE THE
FACT THAT YOU HAVE AN ELECTION
CYCLE WHERE THE FACT THAT YOU
HAVE ANY KIND OF GOVERNMENT
EXPERIENCE IS A HUGE LIABILITY.
>> WELCOME TO 2016.
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S LIKE THAT
FOREVER.
>> THE BIG ONE IS THE CHAIRMAN
OF THE ST. LOUIS COUNTY COUNCIL
LOST HIS BID FOR ELECTION.
DAD WAS IN THE JOB AS COUNTY
COUNCILMAN AND UNION GUY.
MIKE HAS THE SUPPORT OF UNIONS.
UNIONS ARE HUGE.
BUT ROCHELLE DEFEATED HIM.
HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?
>> I'LL TELL YOU HOW.
THERE WAS SKEPTICISM ABOUT THE
COUNCIL AND COUNTY EXECUTIVE
WHEN IT WAS ELECTED, REELECTED
TWO YEARS AGO AND CAME HOME TO
ROAST ON TUESDAY.
PEOPLE DON'T LIKE HOW ST. LOUIS
COUNTY IS BEING RUN BY THE
SITTING COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND HIS
RIGHT HAND MAN WAS FIRST TO GO.
IF I WERE HIM, I'D BE CONCERNED.
I THINK THIS IS WHY THEY ARE
RUSHING DOWNHILL AND MANIFESTED
THEMSELF IN THAT ELECTION FIRST.
I BELIEVE THAT HAD A LOT TO DO
WITH IT.
MORE TO DO WITH IT FOR PEOPLE
BEING FOR LABOR AND ANTILABOR.
WE NEEDED CHANGE AND DEMOCRATS
MADE THAT CHANGE.
>> REPUBLICANS GAVE HIM A GOOD
RUN.
HE LOST HIS ELECTION.
>> HE'LL BE AVAILABLE TO RUN
AGAIN.
AND ANDREW WHO BEAT HIM, HE WAS
A SINGFIELD GUY I GUESS.
>> VERY SURPRISED.
I WAS VERY SURPRISED AT THAT.
I THOUGHT RICK WOULD WIN THAT
EASILY.
>> RIGHT TO WORK.
>> IT WAS A BAD DAY FOR LABOR,
DON'T YOU?
>> WHAT ROLE DID RACE PLAY?
>> WELL, I THINK OBVIOUSLY SOME.
AND VOTE FOR BLACK PEOPLE.
BUT A LOT OF BLACK PEOPLE -- SO
OBVIOUSLY, THE SWING VOTE IS
RIGHT.
>> MAKE UP OF THE DISTRICT.
>> I WILL SAY THIS, WHEN YOU
HAVE REPRESENTATIVE LACY CLAY
WHO HAS A GREAT APPARATUS AND
BEEN IN HIS FAMILY QUITE A LONG
TIME, HE'S GETTING PEOPLE OUT TO
VOTE.
I DO THINK THAT HELPS PEOPLE.
ANOTHER RACE WHERE PEOPLE ASKING
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CLAY
MACHINE?
>> THEY GOT 52%.
OTHER RACES.
VOTING WHEN LEWIS REED RAN.
>> I THINK HE SHALL WANT ASSUME
I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU.
I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS
HOW WELL HE'LL WORK.
>> I'M JUST SAYING THAT HE'S --
I THINK IT WILL BE A FORMABLE
PRIMARY CHALLENGE.
>> THEN, LET'S GO TO THE CIRCUIT
ATTORNEY.
JENNIFER JOYCE IN THE CITY AS
THE LEADING PROSECUTOR IS
RETIRING.
WE ALL KNOW THAT.
AND SO THERE WAS A FOUR-WAY RACE
TO SUCCEED HER.
AND MARY HAD MORE EXPERIENCE
THAN THE THREE OTHERS COMBINED.
THE WINNER IS KIMBERLY GARDENER.
A NURSE, FORMER PROSECUTOR AND
NOW A STATE REP.
SHE GOT 46% OF THE VOTE.
ALMOST UNPRECEDENTED.
WHAT HAPPENED THERE?
>> WELL, I REALLY HAVE THOUGHT
ABOUT THIS.
I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST -- WE
TALK A LOT ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA.
I THINK WE ARE SEEING THE FIRST
WAVES OF A COMPLETELY NEW
GENERATION IN TERMS OF POLITICAL
NETWORKING AND THAT KIND OF
THING.
I THINK SHE RECEIVED A HUGE
BOOST THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA,
THROUGH HER SUPPORT OF BLACK
LIVES MATTER.
I THINK FERGUSON IS STILL TOP OF
MIND WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.
I THINK THAT THE ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE HAS A PERCEPTION PROBLEM
IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
THAT'S THE NICEST WAY I CAN SAY
IT.
AND SHE RECEIVED THE BACKING OF
THE POLICE OFFICER'S ASSOCIATION
AND IN ADDITION TO JENNIFER
JOYCE.
SO I THINK IT'S A NEW DAY.
I THINK A LOT OF BLACK VOTERS
ARE FIGURING OUT IF YOU WANT TO
AFFECT CHANGE, VOTE AND GARDENER
IS THE FIRST THING SHE SAID
SHE'S GOING TO CHANGE THE
CULTURE OF THE PROSECUTOR'S
OFFICE AND YOU ARE GOING TO SEE
MORE BLACK PROSECUTORS.
>> I THINK THE SAME THING I SAID
ABOUT NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR
AFTER, IT WILL BE MORE
INTERESTING TO WATCH IN
GOVERNMENT THAN THE ELECTION
ITSELF.
PARTICULARLY IN THIS ONE WHERE
IT'S A DONE DEAL.
BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'S HELPFUL.
OF ALL THE OFFICES, YOU WANT TO
HAVE DIVERSITY.
IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING IN
AND OF ITSELF ASSUMING SHE'S
QUALIFIED.
IT WILL BE MORE INTERESTED TO
SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT.
IF SHE DOESN'T HAVE ADD --
ADVERSARIAL RELATIONSHIP --
>> .
>> IF JENNIFER JOYCE HAD BEEN
RUNNING THE OFFICE AND NOT DOING
ANYTHING WRONG.
AND EVERY OTHER MONTH, IT WAS
SOMETHING COMING OUT OF THE
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHERE IT WAS
LIKE WHAT IS GOING ON DOWN THERE
AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT
SOMETHING ELSE IN A LITTLE BIT.
THAT'S PART OF WHY SHE WON.
SHE DID NOT JUST WIN BECAUSE SHE
WAS BLACK.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS DISMISSIVE OF
HER.
>> I THOUGHT SHE SAID SHE WAS --
I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY THE
TERM.
SHE WAS COMPLIMENTARY AND SAID
SHE KNEW SHE WOULD SURROUND
HERSE
HERSELF.
>> SHE HAS MORE EXPERIENCE.
>> IF YOU ARE THE FIRST BLACK
PERSON COMING DOWN GOING UP
AGAINST THIS PROSECUTOR, YOU
BETTER BE READY TO GET 1,000
YEARS.
I'M TELLING YOU.
YOU ARE LIKE UH-OH.
>> IT'S INTERESTING. IT'S ONE
THING TO BEAT THE ESTABLISHMENT
WHO HAS THE SUPPORT OF A LONG
TIME CIRCUIT ATTORNEY AND
OFFICERS.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY AN
INTERESTING SCENARIO. SHE DID
GET $240,000.
GOOD FOR HIM.
SO NOW YOU LIKE MONEY IN THE
ELECTIONS.
ON TUESDAY, 17% OF THE 238,000
REGISTERED VOTERS CAME OUT.
NOBODY'S VOTING IN ST. LOUIS.
MORE INTEREST IN THE CITY OF ST.
LOUIS OUTSIDE OF IT, I SWEAR.
>> TWO QUICK POINTS.
ONE SAID SOCIAL MEDIA.
THEY ENDORSED KIMBERLY AND THE
SECOND THING, A LITTLE SHOUT OUT
TO YOUNG STEVE ROBERTS.
WHEN KIMBERLY LEFT HER STATE
REP'S OFFICE, THAT ALLOWED A
FRIEND OF MINE YOUNG STEVE
ROBERTS AND HE WON.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO STEVE.
>> HOW ABOUT THAT?
KIND OF WEIRD AMONG OTHER WEIRD
RACE
RACES.
HE'S FOR RIGHT TO WORK.
THAT'S AN UNUSUAL ONE.
LOOKS LIKE HE'S GOING TO BE A
STATE REP.
>>> ALL RIGHT.
LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
BLISS WARREL.
HE WAS A PROSECUTOR WITH
JENNIFER JOYCE.
SHE WAS RECENTLY CONVICTED NOT
ONLY FOR COVERING UP EVIDENCE IN
FRONT OF A JUDGE BUT PURPOSELY
FILING CHARGES, FILING FALSE
CHARGES AGAINST SOME GUYS.
SHE DID TURN STATE'S EVIDENCE
AND PROSECUTORS USED HER
TESTIMONY TO CONVICT A POLICE
OFFICER.
HE'S GOING TO GO TO JAIL FOR
FIVE YEARS.
SHE GOT PROBATION.
18 MONTHS.
YOU'VE BEEN WRITING ABOUT
PROBATION RECENTLY.
IS THAT A GOOD SENTENCE?
>> I'LL STICK TO WHAT I SAID
BEFORE.
I GENERALLY THINK THAT THE
JUDGES LOOK AT ALL THE FACTORS.
IN THIS CASE, I'M GUESSING IT
SEEMS VERY LIGHT FOR A PRETTY
SERIOUS OFFENSE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, IF HER
TESTIMONY WAS WHAT IT TOOK TO
GET THE CONVICTION, THERE ARE A
LOT OF FACTORS. THE CHIEF HAS
NOT COME OUT AND ATTACKED THIS
AS A SIGN WE'RE ALL SOFT ON
CRIME ALL OF A SUDDEN.
PROBATION IS A COMPLICATED
THING.
AND MY SUPERFICIAL REACTION TO
IT WAS IT SEEMED AWFULLY LIGHT.
BUT THE WHOLE POINT IS YOU LOOK
AT PEOPLE, YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF
FACTORS IN FRONT OF A JUDGE AND
I'M JUST NOT ONE THAT WANTS TO
SECOND GUESS THE JUDGES ON THAT.
>> I THOUGHT IT WAS OUTRAGEOUS.
AND I THINK THE REASON SHE IS
NOT SAYING ANYTHING IS THIS IS
IN FEDERAL COURT.
AND HENRY WAS A JUDGE.
AND I LIKE HENRY A LOT.
THIS WAS THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE.
BUT I THOUGHT WHAT THIS YOUNG
WOMAN DID WAS WORSE THAN WHAT
THE COP DID.
>> WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST COP TO
GET ANGRY AND PUT A GUN IN
SOMEBODY'S MOUTH AND NOT SHOOT.
AND I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF
SYMPATHY FOR THE GUY THAT HAD
THE CREDIT CARD FOR COP'S
DAUGHTER.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO STEAL CREDIT
CARDS AND RUN AROUND WITH THEM,
THIS IS YOUR TOUGH LUCK.
SHE KNOWINGLY CHARGED THE GUY
WITH SOMETHING HE DIDN'T DO.
AND THAT'S ABOUT THE WORST THING
A PROSECUTOR CAN DO.
IN OUR SYSTEM, INNOCENT PEOPLE
ARE GOING TO GET CONVICTED.
IT HAPPENS.
WHEN YOU KNOWINGLY CHARGE
SOMEBODY WITH SOMETHING YOU KNOW
HE DIDN'T DO AND THEN THE
ATTORNEY SAYS WE THINK SHE
SUFFERED ENOUGH, MEANING THE
PROSECUTOR.
REALLY?
>> IF SHE WEREN'T AN ATTRACTIVE
WOMAN, WOULD IT HAVE BEEN AN
OUTCOME?
>> IF SHE WASN'T A LAWYER AND A
MEMBER OF THE CLUB, WOULD IT BE
DIFFERENT?
>> IF YOU TAKE AWAY HIM JAMMING
THE GUN AWAY FROM THE GUY'S
MOUTH, HE MIGHT END UP GETTING
PROBATION.
AND I THINK THEY ARE LIKE THE
ONLY THING STOPPING HIM FROM
GOING TO PRISON IS YOU.
HE WAS STICKING TO HIS STORY.
THE ONLY PERSON THAT COULD
REFUTE IT WAS HER.
AND I'M STILL LIKE WHAT?
>> I'VE LEARNED LONG ENOUGH NOT
TO ARGUE.
WHY DO YOU THINK IT IS?
>> I WOULD RATHER NOT CONVICT
THE COP RATHER THAN GIVE
PROBATION.
I'D LET THE WHOLE THING GO
RATHER THAN SNAP THE RISK OF A
PROSECUTOR.
TWO MINUTE WARNING FOR THE SHOW.
I'M GOING TO GO TO YOU IN THE
LAST SEGMENT.
YOU WERE PART OF THE MISSOURI
TOURISM COMMISSION BACK IN THE
DAY.
AND THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO
VOTE TO CHANGE THE NAME TO ST.
LOUIS INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW
WHO ALBERT LAMBERT WAS.
IS THE NAME THE PROBLEM?
>> WELL, NO.
I DON'T KNOW FROM THE GREAT
BEYOND, PROBABLY PRETTY HAPPY OF
GETTING HIS NAME BUMPED TO THE
BACK OF IT.
I WAS JUST THERE YESTERDAY.
THERE ARE WORSE AIRPORTS.
AND I KNOW THEY ARE TRYING THEIR
BEST.
BUT I WOULD SAY THIS IN
FAIRNESS, I'M NOT A FAN OF THE
AIRPORT.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THE FACT
IT'S NOT BEING USED.
MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHO HE
WA
WAS.
>> IT'S SUCH A TYPICAL SOLUTION.
IT'S LIKE WE DON'T HAVE AN IMAGE
PROBLE
PROBLEM.
>> YOU CAN ALWAYS WRITE US CARE
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