WEBVTT 00:24.048 --> 00:24.649 >> Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE 00:24.782 --> 00:25.517 POSSIBLE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE 00:25.650 --> 00:31.890 NINE NETWORK. 00:32.023 --> 00:33.892 >> THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR 00:34.025 --> 00:35.126 THIS EDITION OF DONNYBROOK. 00:35.260 --> 00:37.128 GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US. 00:37.262 --> 00:38.663 IT'S THE THIRD WEEK IN A ROW 00:38.796 --> 00:40.798 THAT WE'RE SOCIALLY DISTANCING, 00:40.932 --> 00:42.233 AND WE'VE GOT A LOT TO TALK 00:42.367 --> 00:43.234 ABOUT AS YOU KNOW. 00:43.368 --> 00:45.003 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INVITING 00:45.136 --> 00:47.672 US INTO YOUR LIVING ROOM. 00:47.805 --> 00:48.940 WELL, KIND OF LIKE HOLLYWOOD 00:49.073 --> 00:53.011 SQUARES, SO FIRST WE'D LIKE TO 00:53.144 --> 01:00.351 WELCOME NANETTE FABRAY, AKK 01:00.485 --> 01:03.421 WENDY WIESE, THE NEWS DIRECTOR 01:03.555 --> 01:05.323 OF THE COUNTY RS. 01:05.456 --> 01:07.325 MR. CHARLIE WEAVER, WHO IS BILL 01:07.458 --> 01:09.227 McCLELLAN FROM THE ST. LOUIS 01:09.360 --> 01:09.661 POST-DISPATCH. 01:09.794 --> 01:10.428 WE SOMETIMES CALL HIM RAY 01:10.562 --> 01:12.630 HARTMANN, BUT HE LOOKS MORE LIKE 01:12.764 --> 01:15.200 PAUL LIND TO ME FROM THE 01:15.333 --> 01:18.303 RIVERFRONT TIMES AND THE BIG 550 01:18.436 --> 01:21.372 KTRS AND, OF COURSE, WALLY COX, 01:21.506 --> 01:25.543 AKA ALVIN REID, FROM 97.1. 01:25.677 --> 01:27.312 >> HI, KITTY! 01:27.445 --> 01:29.080 HI, KITTY! 01:29.214 --> 01:32.850 >> WHO WAS THAT, ALVIN? 01:32.984 --> 01:34.552 >> THAT WAS RUBEN. 01:34.686 --> 01:36.221 I'M TRYING TO KEEP HIM IN CAT 01:36.354 --> 01:39.157 FOOD, SO HE HAD TO WORK TOO. 01:39.290 --> 01:40.992 >> WE'LL SEND HIM THE USUAL FEE. 01:41.125 --> 01:42.961 WE WANT TO EXPRESS THE HAPPIEST 01:43.094 --> 01:52.737 OF BIRTHDAYS TODAY TO SOPHIA 01:52.870 --> 01:56.274 MORENO WHO YOU SAW LAST WEEK AND 01:56.407 --> 01:58.276 HOW MANY IS SHE TODAY? 01:58.409 --> 01:59.110 >> THIS MANY. 01:59.244 --> 02:00.778 >> WELL, RAY HARTMANN, YOU'RE 02:00.912 --> 02:03.014 GOING TO BE SOCIALING DISTANCING 02:03.147 --> 02:05.416 YOURSELF FROM THE GOVERNOR, MIKE 02:05.550 --> 02:08.286 PARSON, OR HE'LL BE SOCIALLY 02:08.419 --> 02:09.387 DISTANCING HIMSELF FROM YOU IF 02:09.520 --> 02:12.257 HE READS THIS WEEK'S RIVERFRONT 02:12.390 --> 02:12.590 TIMES. 02:12.724 --> 02:13.992 YOU THINK MIKE PARSON IS DOING 02:14.125 --> 02:15.793 AS LITTLE OR MAYBE EVEN LESS 02:15.927 --> 02:18.096 WHEN IT COMES TO COVID-19 THAN 02:18.229 --> 02:21.332 ANY OTHER GOVERNOR IN THE 02:21.466 --> 02:21.666 COUNTRY. 02:21.799 --> 02:24.102 >> KANSAS CITY STAR REPORTED HE 02:24.235 --> 02:25.837 WAS IN A RACE TO THE BOTTOM 02:25.970 --> 02:26.704 WITH, I WANT TO SAY THE 02:26.838 --> 02:28.139 GOVERNORS OF THEE OTHER STATES. 02:28.273 --> 02:30.108 I THINK IT WAS NEBRASKA, IOWA, 02:30.241 --> 02:31.743 AND TENNESSEE, AS GOVERNORS WHO 02:31.876 --> 02:35.280 HAVE DONE THE LEAST ABOUT THIS. 02:35.413 --> 02:36.748 IT IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE ON 02:36.881 --> 02:39.350 EVERY LEVEL THAT THERE'S NOT A 02:39.484 --> 02:41.286 STATEWIDE SHELTER AT HOME ORDER 02:41.419 --> 02:42.920 LIKE THERE IS IN -- AND THERE'S 02:43.054 --> 02:46.557 ALSO NOT EVEN AN ORDER FOR 02:46.691 --> 02:46.958 BUSINESSES. 02:47.091 --> 02:48.926 THIS IS -- IT'S OVER 80% OF THE 02:49.060 --> 02:50.094 AMERICAN PUBLIC ARE LEVERAGE 02:50.228 --> 02:53.464 UNDER SHELTER AT HOME ORDERS, 02:53.598 --> 02:55.767 AND THIS VIRUS DOESN'T KNOW ANY 02:55.900 --> 02:56.100 BORDERS. 02:56.234 --> 02:58.436 >> WELL, THIS IS MISSOURI, RAY. 02:58.569 --> 03:00.571 I MEAN, I WAS GOING TO SAY, THIS 03:00.705 --> 03:02.740 IS THE KIND OF GUY WE ELECT, BUT 03:02.874 --> 03:04.375 THEN AGAIN, WE DIDN'T ELECT 03:04.509 --> 03:05.510 GOVERNOR PARSON, BUT THIS IS THE 03:05.643 --> 03:08.279 SORT OF THING THAT APPEALS TO A 03:08.413 --> 03:09.547 LOT OF PEOPLE IN MISSOURI. 03:09.681 --> 03:11.115 YOU KNOW, NOBODY IS GOING TO 03:11.249 --> 03:14.085 TELL US WHAT TO DO AND -- I 03:14.218 --> 03:15.720 MEAN, I THINK THERE'S GREAT 03:15.853 --> 03:16.988 SWATHS OF THE STATE THAT STILL 03:17.121 --> 03:19.891 THINK THIS IS, IF NOT A HOAX, A 03:20.024 --> 03:21.392 REAL MEDIA HYPE AND THEY'RE 03:21.526 --> 03:23.127 PROUD OF OUR GOVERNOR. 03:23.261 --> 03:25.463 >> I THINK IT'S TO THE POINT NOW 03:25.596 --> 03:26.998 WHERE IT'S INEXCUSABLE IN JUST 03:27.131 --> 03:28.433 THE NUMBERS THEMSELVES AND IF 03:28.566 --> 03:32.036 YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE CASES, 03:32.170 --> 03:33.705 LIKE RAY WAS SAYING, THEY'RE 03:33.838 --> 03:35.139 THROUGHOUT THE STATE, INCLUDING 03:35.273 --> 03:36.341 ST. CHARLES WHERE YOU HAVE TWO 03:36.474 --> 03:38.376 PEOPLE PASSED AWAY AND 21 OTHERS 03:38.509 --> 03:40.478 HAVE IT IN A SENIOR RESIDENCE 03:40.611 --> 03:41.279 AND YOU HAVE A COUNTY EXECUTIVE 03:41.412 --> 03:43.214 THERE WHO, YOU KNOW, DID NOT 03:43.348 --> 03:45.783 WANT TO PUT FORTH, DICTATE WHICH 03:45.917 --> 03:47.218 BUSINESSES CLOSED AND WHICH 03:47.352 --> 03:47.552 DON'T. 03:47.685 --> 03:48.119 >> BUT HE DID. 03:48.252 --> 03:48.720 BUT HE DID. 03:48.853 --> 03:50.221 >> HE DID, HE DID. 03:50.355 --> 03:50.588 >> YEAH. 03:50.722 --> 03:52.523 >> THIS IS NO FOOLING AROUND AND 03:52.657 --> 03:53.991 WHY OUR STATE ONCE AGAIN HAS TO 03:54.125 --> 03:58.930 BE AMONGST THE BOTTOM. 03:59.063 --> 04:00.631 I WILL THROW IN OKLAHOMA TOO. 04:00.765 --> 04:02.166 I TALKED TO MY BROTHER-IN-LAW 04:02.300 --> 04:03.668 LAST NIGHT AND YOU CAN STILL GO 04:03.801 --> 04:05.837 TO A MEXICAN RESTAURANT NEAR HIM 04:05.970 --> 04:07.105 TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE DINNER. 04:07.238 --> 04:08.840 I THINK IT'S NOT LIKE THAT IN 04:08.973 --> 04:10.208 TULSA, WHATEVER COUNTY TULSA IS 04:10.341 --> 04:12.043 IN, BUT THE REST OF THE STATE UP 04:12.176 --> 04:13.478 FOR GRABS TOO AND APPARENTLY 04:13.611 --> 04:17.014 PEOPLE FROM JOPLIN ARE JUST 04:17.148 --> 04:18.716 GOING OVER THE STATE AND TAKING 04:18.850 --> 04:19.817 WHATEVER THEY HAVE WITH THEM. 04:19.951 --> 04:23.788 >> HE MUST NOT BE INTERESTED IN 04:23.921 --> 04:25.256 RE-ELECTION, BECAUSE MOST OF THE 04:25.390 --> 04:27.558 PEOPLE I KNOW WHO WOULD HAVE 04:27.692 --> 04:29.260 VOTED FOR HIM ARE SOME OF -- 04:29.394 --> 04:32.930 AMONG THE ONES WHO ARE MOST 04:33.064 --> 04:36.834 IRATE ABOUT A LACK OF 04:36.968 --> 04:37.602 AGGRESSION, AGGRESSIVENESS ON 04:37.735 --> 04:39.637 THE PART OF THE GOVERNOR. 04:39.771 --> 04:41.472 >> I WILL SAY, I AGREED 04:41.606 --> 04:42.507 GENERALLY WITH WHAT EVERYBODY 04:42.640 --> 04:43.908 HAS SAD. 04:44.041 --> 04:46.310 I THINK RUBEN HAS ACTUALLY DONE 04:46.444 --> 04:48.112 MORE WHEN IT COMES TO COVID-19 04:48.246 --> 04:49.280 THAN THE GOVERNOR. 04:49.414 --> 04:51.816 HOWEVER, YOU GOT TO ADMIT THAT 04:51.949 --> 04:53.618 NOT ALL COUNTIES ARE THE SAME, 04:53.751 --> 04:55.820 AND YOU GO TO ROCKLAND COUNTY, 04:55.953 --> 04:57.722 NEW YORK, WHERE THEY HAVE ABOUT 04:57.855 --> 04:59.590 1500 CASES PER 100,000. 04:59.724 --> 05:01.025 GO TO THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS 05:01.159 --> 05:03.895 WHERE IT'S 43 CASES. 05:04.028 --> 05:06.931 YOU GO TO JASPER COUNTY IN 05:07.064 --> 05:08.032 MISSOURI, IT'S WILL FOUR CASE. 05:08.166 --> 05:10.935 >> BUT CHARLIE, THAT'S DOESN'T 05:11.068 --> 05:11.269 MATTER. 05:11.402 --> 05:12.737 >> LET ME SAY IF I MAY -- 05:12.870 --> 05:13.604 >> NO, NO -- 05:13.738 --> 05:14.772 >> IF I MAY. 05:14.906 --> 05:17.008 IN JASPER COUNTY, THEY ARE DOING 05:17.141 --> 05:19.811 MORE SOCIALLY DISTANCING NOW AND 05:19.944 --> 05:21.479 THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, THAN WE 05:21.612 --> 05:23.781 ARE UNDER THE LOCKDOWN. 05:23.915 --> 05:25.316 FOR EXAMPLE, THEIR PARKS ARE 05:25.450 --> 05:28.085 NEVER AS CROWDED AS OUR FOREST 05:28.219 --> 05:28.386 PARK. 05:28.519 --> 05:30.455 THEY DON'T HAVE FARMERS MARKETS 05:30.588 --> 05:32.657 BECAUSE THEY ARE FARMERS. 05:32.790 --> 05:35.026 AS A MATTER OF FACT, FARMERS 05:35.159 --> 05:36.727 MARKETS ARE EXEMPT IN ST. LOUIS 05:36.861 --> 05:38.329 COUNTY, FOR EXAMPLE, ALONG WITH, 05:38.463 --> 05:39.831 LIKE, TAXI CABS. 05:39.964 --> 05:40.898 NOW, TAXI CABS MIGHT BE 05:41.032 --> 05:43.468 IMPORTANT TO SOME, BUT YOU CAN'T 05:43.601 --> 05:46.504 TELL ME THAT GETTING INTO A 05:46.637 --> 05:47.839 TAXICAB IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY 05:47.972 --> 05:49.540 PREVENTS YOU FROM GETTING 05:49.674 --> 05:49.907 COVID-19. 05:50.041 --> 05:52.043 >> CHARLIE, THAT PATCHWORK 05:52.176 --> 05:52.877 APPROACH THAT YOU'RE TALKING 05:53.010 --> 05:55.379 ABOUT REALLY OR THAT YOU SEEM TO 05:55.513 --> 05:59.317 BE TALKING ABOUT IS DEADLY 05:59.450 --> 06:01.352 BECAUSE THE LOCALS WHO LIVE IN 06:01.486 --> 06:02.687 ST. LOUIS WHO DON'T THINK THAT 06:02.820 --> 06:03.988 THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE AFRAID 06:04.121 --> 06:06.624 OF, WHO WILL NOT EVER BE TOLD 06:06.757 --> 06:09.627 WHAT TO DO BY ANYBODY, YOU HAVE 06:09.760 --> 06:12.096 TO HAVE A UNIFORM MESSAGE AND 06:12.230 --> 06:13.097 THAT'S WHAT THE GOVERNOR IS 06:13.231 --> 06:15.132 COMPLETELY UNAWARE OF. 06:15.266 --> 06:16.667 EVERYBODY HAS TO BE -- IN MY 06:16.801 --> 06:18.402 MIND, TO MY MIND, EVERYBODY HAS 06:18.536 --> 06:20.671 TO BE FOLLOWING THE SAME SET OF 06:20.805 --> 06:21.005 RULES. 06:21.138 --> 06:22.740 >> CHARLIE, CHARLIE, CAN I SAY 06:22.874 --> 06:23.107 SOMETHING? 06:23.241 --> 06:24.509 THE THING YOU'RE REALLY MISSING 06:24.642 --> 06:26.844 HERE, AND IT'S A BIG PROBLEM, IS 06:26.978 --> 06:28.279 THERE ISN'T ENOUGH TESTING 06:28.412 --> 06:30.081 ANYWHERE BUT -- 06:30.214 --> 06:31.048 >> I AGREE. 06:31.182 --> 06:32.750 >> -- ESPECIALLY OUT STATE, SO 06:32.884 --> 06:34.051 WHAT HAPPENS IS FOR EXAMPLE, 06:34.185 --> 06:35.853 KATHY SWAN, A STATE REP WHO'S A 06:35.987 --> 06:38.189 NURSE OF ALL THINGS FROM CAPE 06:38.322 --> 06:39.690 GIRARDEAU GOT UP AND TALKED 06:39.824 --> 06:41.058 ABOUT HOW SHE DIDN'T WANT TO 06:41.192 --> 06:45.029 HEAR A BUNCH OF DOOMSDAY STUFF. 06:45.162 --> 06:46.864 AT THE TIME SHE DID THAT ON MA 06:46.998 --> 06:48.866 MARCH 19th, THERE WERE ZERO 06:49.000 --> 06:51.068 CASES IN CAPE GIRARDEAU AND IT'S 06:51.202 --> 06:52.336 NOW 15 AND IF THE CURVE GROWS 06:52.470 --> 06:53.504 THERE LIKE IT DOES EVERYWHERE 06:53.638 --> 06:54.472 ELSE, THE ONLY THING THAT'S 06:54.605 --> 06:55.740 GOING TO BRING US TOGETHER IS 06:55.873 --> 06:56.874 THE PEOPLE IN RURAL MISSOURI ARE 06:57.008 --> 06:58.576 GOING TO HAVE TO COME TO 06:58.709 --> 07:01.078 ST. LOUIS FOR MEDICAL CARE 07:01.212 --> 07:02.580 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T EXPAND 07:02.713 --> 07:03.648 MEDICAID EXPANSION AND HALF THE 07:03.781 --> 07:06.350 RURAL HOSPITALS ARE CLOSED. 07:06.484 --> 07:11.255 >> CHARLIE, IF I COULD SAY, 07:11.389 --> 07:12.890 AGAIN, I'M REALLY NOT DEFENDING 07:13.024 --> 07:13.524 THE GOVERNOR. 07:13.658 --> 07:15.760 I HEARD BILL GATES, WHO IS THE 07:15.893 --> 07:17.828 SMARTEST GUY I'VE EVER HEARD, 07:17.962 --> 07:19.463 SAY THAT THIS ONLY WORKS IF 07:19.597 --> 07:20.765 EVERYBODY DOES IT. 07:20.898 --> 07:21.832 SO I'M NOT SAYING EVERYBODY 07:21.966 --> 07:23.067 SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT. 07:23.200 --> 07:24.835 I'M JUST SAYING THAT THIS IS 07:24.969 --> 07:27.705 WHAT YOU HAVE TO EXPECT IN 07:27.838 --> 07:28.072 MISSOURI. 07:28.205 --> 07:30.107 THIS GOVERNOR AND A LOT OF 07:30.241 --> 07:32.143 PEOPLE AGREE WITH HIM. 07:32.276 --> 07:33.911 >> CAN I -- PEOPLE ARE SAYING -- 07:34.045 --> 07:36.647 LET ME SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS 07:36.781 --> 07:38.115 GOVERNOR AND MAYBE THE GOVERNOR 07:38.249 --> 07:40.718 OF NEW YORK, FOR EXAMPLE. 07:40.851 --> 07:41.819 WEREN'T YOU A LITTLE SURPRISED 07:41.953 --> 07:47.425 WHEN -- AND EVERYBODY -- EVEN 07:47.558 --> 07:49.827 WENDY THE OTHER WEEK SAID MAYBE 07:49.961 --> 07:50.962 GOVERNOR CUOMO SHOULD BE 07:51.095 --> 07:51.629 NOMINATED ON THE DEMOCRATIC 07:51.762 --> 07:52.897 TICKET THIS YEAR, AND YEAH, HE'S 07:53.030 --> 07:54.665 GETTING A LOT OF PRAISE, BUT THE 07:54.799 --> 07:56.667 GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK WAITED TILL 07:56.801 --> 07:59.170 YESTERDAY TO CLOSE DOWN 07:59.303 --> 08:00.237 PLAYGROUNDS WHEREAS ST. LOUIS 08:00.371 --> 08:01.138 MAYOR LYDA KREWSON DID IT LAST 08:01.272 --> 08:02.573 FRIDAY. 08:02.707 --> 08:05.042 >> BUT THEY'VE HAD A SHELTER IN 08:05.176 --> 08:05.343 PLACE. 08:05.476 --> 08:07.111 THEY CAN'T GO -- I MEAN, I'M 08:07.244 --> 08:08.579 SURPRISED THAT IT TOOK HIM THAT 08:08.713 --> 08:12.316 LONG TO GET AROUND TO THAT, BUT 08:12.450 --> 08:14.952 TO ME, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD -- I 08:15.086 --> 08:17.221 THINK HE HAS OTHER THINGS ON HIS 08:17.355 --> 08:17.922 TO-DO LIST. 08:18.055 --> 08:19.357 >> NO, HE DOESN'T. 08:19.490 --> 08:21.559 NOT AT THIS POINT. 08:21.692 --> 08:23.027 THAT IS HIS MOST IMPORTANT JOB 08:23.160 --> 08:24.261 AS HE KNOWS. 08:24.395 --> 08:26.097 >> I DON'T THINK YOU CAN -- YOU 08:26.230 --> 08:27.398 CANNOT QUESTION WHAT THE 08:27.531 --> 08:30.267 GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK HAS DONE. 08:30.401 --> 08:31.335 HE'S 48 HOURS BEHIND LYDA 08:31.469 --> 08:33.004 KREWSON, THAT'S ONE THING, 08:33.137 --> 08:33.404 BUT -- 08:33.537 --> 08:34.639 >> CHARLIE, COME ON -- 08:34.772 --> 08:36.540 >> NEW YORK IS GROUND ZERO, 08:36.674 --> 08:36.907 CHARLIE. 08:37.041 --> 08:37.308 >> EXACTLY. 08:37.441 --> 08:38.609 >> AND NEW YORK IS ALSO -- 08:38.743 --> 08:39.877 >> IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN HIM 08:40.011 --> 08:41.178 THAT LONG TO CLOSE THE 08:41.312 --> 08:41.579 PLAYGROUND. 08:41.712 --> 08:42.713 >> NOBODY IS ALLOWED TO GO 08:42.847 --> 08:43.047 OUTSIDE. 08:43.180 --> 08:44.448 >> YES, THEY CAN. 08:44.582 --> 08:45.616 THEY CAN EXERCISE OUTSIDE. 08:45.750 --> 08:46.717 >> OKAY. 08:46.851 --> 08:47.518 >> CHARLIE -- 08:47.652 --> 08:48.686 >> NEW YORK IS DIFFERENT THAN 08:48.819 --> 08:50.821 OTHER PLACES, CHARLIE, IN THAT 08:50.955 --> 08:52.723 SERIOUSLY A PLAYGROUND IS ALMOST 08:52.857 --> 08:53.724 KIDS IN THE HEART OF NEW YORK 08:53.858 --> 08:55.393 HAVE AND YOU TAKE THAT AWAY, 08:55.526 --> 08:57.662 THERE'S NO YARD, THERE'S NO -- 08:57.795 --> 08:59.864 >> OKAY, OKAY, NOT DOING THIS 08:59.997 --> 09:00.931 FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT. 09:01.065 --> 09:02.400 IN ST. LOUIS, AS YOU KNOW, YOU 09:02.533 --> 09:04.602 CAN GO TO A LIQUOR STORE AND YOU 09:04.735 --> 09:07.905 CAN GET RECREATIONAL POT IN 09:08.039 --> 09:09.707 ILLINOIS AND YOU CAN ALSO -- YOU 09:09.840 --> 09:16.380 CAN GO TO A B&B, A BED AND 09:16.514 --> 09:18.049 BREAKFAST IS EXEMPT IN ST. LOUIS 09:18.182 --> 09:19.250 COUNTY, SO DON'T SIT IN JUDGMENT 09:19.383 --> 09:21.152 OF ADAIR COUNTY WHERE THEY 09:21.285 --> 09:23.954 DIDN'T ANY BED AND BREAKFASTS. 09:24.088 --> 09:26.791 >> I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE BED 09:26.924 --> 09:29.126 AND BREAKFAST. 09:29.260 --> 09:30.828 >> ON MY SHOW LAST NIGHT, I 09:30.961 --> 09:33.297 HAPPENED TO HAVE MIKE 09:33.431 --> 09:35.199 SOUTHERLAND, AND HE HAD AN 09:35.332 --> 09:37.468 INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE. 09:37.601 --> 09:40.471 THEY JUST CLOSED -- IT'S UP TO 09:40.604 --> 09:42.606 PARSON TO CLOSE THE PARKS, BUT 09:42.740 --> 09:44.208 LIKE ILLINOIS HAS, ALL OF 09:44.341 --> 09:45.276 ILLINOIS'S PARKS ARE CLOSED AND 09:45.409 --> 09:46.877 PEOPLE ARE STREAMING OVER HERE 09:47.011 --> 09:50.347 FROM ILLINOIS TO GO TO MISSOURI 09:50.481 --> 09:53.050 PARKS, BUT HE CLOSED CASTLE WOOD 09:53.184 --> 09:54.752 PARK AND I ASKED HIM ABOUT THIS. 09:54.885 --> 09:57.254 WHEN HE CLOSED ELEPHANT ROCK 09:57.388 --> 09:58.756 PARK, WHICH IS OUT IN RURAL 09:58.889 --> 10:00.791 MISSOURI, HE SAYS IT WAS ABOUT 10:00.925 --> 10:03.127 THE SAME RESPONSE, ABOUT 50-50, 10:03.260 --> 10:06.397 THAT THE PEOPLE IN THAT REGION 10:06.530 --> 10:08.799 WERE PRETTY MUCH HAPPY THAT -- 10:08.933 --> 10:10.034 NOT TO HAVE PEOPLE BRINGING -- 10:10.167 --> 10:11.168 THEY WEREN'T LOOKING FOR TOURISM 10:11.302 --> 10:12.636 RIGHT NOW. 10:12.770 --> 10:15.573 SO IT'S NOT QUITE CLEARLY 10:15.706 --> 10:17.141 URBAN-RURAL, BUT THE POINT IS 10:17.274 --> 10:20.044 PEOPLE IN RURAL MISSOURI ARE 10:20.177 --> 10:21.545 MORE LIKELY, REALLY THROUGH NO 10:21.679 --> 10:22.580 FAULT OF THEIR OWN BECAUSE 10:22.713 --> 10:24.815 THEY'RE NOT BEING TESTED, TO 10:24.949 --> 10:27.218 UNDERESTIMATE THIS VIRUS AND 10:27.351 --> 10:28.786 THIS IS A VIRUS FOR THE WHOLE 10:28.919 --> 10:29.420 COUNTRY, NOT -- 10:29.553 --> 10:31.856 >> OKAY, RAY, I -- DO YOU WANT 10:31.989 --> 10:33.057 TO CLOSE FOREST PARK? 10:33.190 --> 10:36.026 I MEAN, I'M WALKING IF FOREST 10:36.160 --> 10:37.128 PARK EVERY SINGLE DAY. 10:37.261 --> 10:39.063 I MEAN, I'M CAREFUL, BUT I HATE 10:39.196 --> 10:39.930 TO SEE THAT CLOSE. 10:40.064 --> 10:41.665 >> EVENTUALLY, BILL, I WOULD NOT 10:41.799 --> 10:42.700 BE SURPRISED. 10:42.833 --> 10:43.834 THEY HAVE -- LOOK AT HOW MUCH 10:43.968 --> 10:44.235 THEY -- 10:44.368 --> 10:46.170 >> I AGREE WITH YOU, WENDY. 10:46.303 --> 10:47.104 IT MIGHT HAPPEN. 10:47.238 --> 10:48.939 >> YEAH, YEAH. 10:49.073 --> 10:51.475 >> AND THE ANSWER IS AT LEAST 10:51.609 --> 10:52.409 PEOPLE HAVE TO PRACTICE THE 10:52.543 --> 10:52.943 SOCIAL DISTANCING. 10:53.077 --> 10:53.544 >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. 10:53.677 --> 10:54.345 I AGREE WITH THAT. 10:54.478 --> 10:56.080 >> AND I THINK THE PARKS 10:56.213 --> 10:57.148 DEPARTMENT IS DOING AS WELL AS 10:57.281 --> 10:58.415 IT COULD UNDER THE 10:58.549 --> 10:58.849 CIRCUMSTANCES. 10:58.983 --> 11:00.651 THE POINT IS YOU GOT TO PRACTICE 11:00.785 --> 11:01.185 SOCIAL DISTANCING. 11:01.318 --> 11:01.685 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 11:01.819 --> 11:02.753 >> AND THE PEDIATRICIANS WILL 11:02.887 --> 11:04.021 TELL YOU KIDS DON'T DO THAT. 11:04.155 --> 11:05.890 >> IF I MIGHT, WILL IT'S GO TO 11:06.023 --> 11:09.226 WENDY ON THIS -- LET'S GO TO 11:09.360 --> 11:11.595 WENDY ON THIS NEXT TOPIC, WHICH 11:11.729 --> 11:12.797 WENDY, MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO 11:12.930 --> 11:14.298 ME SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT WAS 11:14.431 --> 11:17.735 REALLY UNUSUAL THIS PAST WEEK 11:17.868 --> 11:18.969 WHEN FORMER GOVERNOR GREITENS 11:19.103 --> 11:22.606 SHOWED UP AT A PHOTO OP WITH FOX 11:22.740 --> 11:24.074 2, PRIVATE PHOTOGRAPHER, TAKING 11:24.208 --> 11:28.112 HIS PHOTOS UNLOADING MASKS WHICH 11:28.245 --> 11:32.616 HE HAD KIND OF DONATED THROUGH 11:32.750 --> 11:34.118 THE ST. LOUIS FIRE DEPARTMENT 11:34.251 --> 11:36.086 FOUNDATION TO THE FIRE 11:36.220 --> 11:36.487 DEPARTMENT. 11:36.620 --> 11:38.189 APPARENTLY HE HAD LINED UP THE 11:38.322 --> 11:40.057 SPONSORS TO BUY THE MASKS. 11:40.191 --> 11:41.592 WHERE HE GOT THEM, I DON'T KNOW. 11:41.725 --> 11:42.860 AND THEN THERE WERE PHOTOS OF 11:42.993 --> 11:44.728 HIM UNLOADING THEM AND THEN HE 11:44.862 --> 11:46.430 DID THE NEXT THING -- THE SAME 11:46.564 --> 11:47.965 THING, RATHER, THE NEXT DAY IN 11:48.098 --> 11:50.334 KANSAS CITY TO THE POLICE 11:50.467 --> 11:50.734 DEPARTMENT. 11:50.868 --> 11:52.069 EMD HE WOULD NOT ANSWER ANY 11:52.203 --> 11:53.103 QUESTIONS AND, OF COURSE, THIS 11:53.237 --> 11:55.039 IS THE GOVERNOR WHO TWO YEARS 11:55.172 --> 11:57.308 AGO RESIGNED UNDER A CLOUD OF 11:57.441 --> 11:57.708 CONTROVERSY. 11:57.842 --> 11:59.043 WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON? 11:59.176 --> 12:00.711 >> AND DON'T FORGET EXERCISE 12:00.845 --> 12:03.814 EQUIPMENT UNDER THE CLOUD OF 12:03.948 --> 12:06.617 CONTROVERSY AND EXERCISE 12:06.750 --> 12:06.984 EQUIPMENT. 12:07.117 --> 12:10.354 I HAVE NO IDEA, BUT I THINK 12:10.487 --> 12:14.358 THE -- ONE OF THE QUICKEST WAYS 12:14.491 --> 12:17.862 TO ENSURE THAT YOU BECOME A 12:17.995 --> 12:20.798 POLITICAL NON-ENTITY AND A 12:20.931 --> 12:23.033 CULTURAL PARIAH -- AND WE'VE 12:23.167 --> 12:25.469 SEEN THIS AT EVERY LEVEL, STATE, 12:25.603 --> 12:27.137 FEDERAL, WHITE HOUSE, AND NOW I 12:27.271 --> 12:30.274 THINK WE'RE SEEING IT WITH 12:30.407 --> 12:31.508 GOVERNOR -- FORMER GOVERNOR 12:31.642 --> 12:31.876 GREITENS. 12:32.009 --> 12:36.013 ANYBODY WHO USES THE PANDEMIC AS 12:36.146 --> 12:39.416 A CAMPAIGN RALLY OR ANYTHING 12:39.550 --> 12:41.852 THAT LOOKS REMOTELY LIKE A 12:41.986 --> 12:44.922 CAMPAIGN RALLY, I THINK WILL 12:45.055 --> 12:46.957 INCUR THE WRATH OF THE VOTERS AT 12:47.091 --> 12:48.325 THE BALLOT BOX. 12:48.459 --> 12:51.629 I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE A FEW 12:51.762 --> 12:53.297 OUT THERE WHO MAYBE HAVE SOME 12:53.430 --> 13:00.070 AGAIN -- GENETIC PREDISPOSITION 13:00.204 --> 13:01.705 OR SOMETHING, BUT WHO ARE MOVED 13:01.839 --> 13:04.341 BY IT, BUT THE TIMING AT THIS 13:04.475 --> 13:05.776 MOMENT TO LOOK LIKE YOU'RE GRAND 13:05.910 --> 13:07.745 STANDING, TO MY ESTIMATION, IS 13:07.878 --> 13:09.546 POLITICAL DEATH AND IF I WERE 13:09.680 --> 13:12.049 ADVISING HIM ON BECOMING A 13:12.182 --> 13:13.784 PHOENIX WHO'S TRYING TO RISE 13:13.918 --> 13:15.019 FROM THE ASHES, I WOULD TELL HIM 13:15.152 --> 13:16.186 TO KNOCK THAT OFF. 13:16.320 --> 13:17.621 IF YOU -- YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE 13:17.755 --> 13:19.256 GOING TO DO SOMETHING GOOD, IT 13:19.390 --> 13:21.058 ONLY REALLY COUNTS WHEN NOBODY 13:21.191 --> 13:23.294 KNOWS THAT YOU'RE DOING IT, IN 13:23.427 --> 13:24.261 MY OPINION. 13:24.395 --> 13:28.499 >> WELL, YOU HAVE TO THINK, 13:28.632 --> 13:29.934 HERE'S THE GUY WHO WAS ON A 13:30.067 --> 13:31.368 SHORT LIST OF POTENTIAL 13:31.502 --> 13:33.170 PRESIDENTS AND HE HAD A RESUME 13:33.304 --> 13:36.573 TO DIE FOR, AND HE WAS SMART, 13:36.707 --> 13:39.510 GOOD-LOOKING AND A GREAT TALKER, 13:39.643 --> 13:41.612 AND BOOM, HE COLLAPSED. 13:41.745 --> 13:43.814 IT WOULD BE SO HARD NOT TO TRY 13:43.948 --> 13:46.717 TO MAKE A COMEBACK AND ALL THE 13:46.850 --> 13:48.719 PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THEY WERE 13:48.852 --> 13:50.354 BUYING IN EARLY HAD TO BE IN 13:50.487 --> 13:51.789 SHOCK, AND THEY FIGURE, WHAT'S A 13:51.922 --> 13:52.890 LITTLE MORE MONEY. 13:53.023 --> 13:57.895 I MEAN, WHY NOT? 13:58.028 --> 14:00.097 I MEAN, I DISLIKE GREITENS, I'M 14:00.230 --> 14:02.032 NOT A FAN OF GREITENS, BUT IT'S 14:02.166 --> 14:03.867 HARDLY SURPRISING TO SEE HIM TRY 14:04.001 --> 14:04.969 TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ANYTHING. 14:05.102 --> 14:06.036 >> I AGREE WITH -- 14:06.170 --> 14:08.772 >> WHY DID HE HAVE TO GO THROUGH 14:08.906 --> 14:10.240 THE FIREFIGHTERS FOUNDATION? 14:10.374 --> 14:11.075 IS ANYBODY ABLE -- 14:11.208 --> 14:12.309 >> I HAVE NO IDEA, WENDY. 14:12.443 --> 14:16.513 >> I AGREE WITH -- GO AHEAD. 14:16.647 --> 14:16.747 S. 14:16.880 --> 14:19.850 >> SO THE DONORS COULD GET A TAX 14:19.984 --> 14:20.184 BREAK. 14:20.317 --> 14:21.618 >> MAYBE SO, BUT I'M NOT A CON, 14:21.752 --> 14:24.488 BUT IT TAKES A CON TO SPOT ONE, 14:24.621 --> 14:27.124 AND LET ME TELL YOU WHAT, 14:27.257 --> 14:28.192 CONNING, GRIFTING, TRYING TO 14:28.325 --> 14:30.861 FIND A WAY, AS BILL SAID, TO DIG 14:30.995 --> 14:33.397 YOUR WAY OUT OF THE RUBBLE. 14:33.530 --> 14:35.366 YOU CAN'T PUT ENOUGH CHAINS ON 14:35.499 --> 14:37.601 SOMEBODY FROM STL THAT THEY 14:37.735 --> 14:38.569 DON'T BUBBLE UP OUT OF THE 14:38.702 --> 14:40.604 BOTTOM OF THE RIVER. 14:40.738 --> 14:41.805 HE'S JUST PLAYING THE BIG TIME 14:41.939 --> 14:43.073 AND HOW DO YOU DO IT? 14:43.207 --> 14:44.775 ALL RIGHT, I GET THESE MASKS AND 14:44.908 --> 14:46.610 I GO THROUGH THE KANSAS CITY 14:46.744 --> 14:47.444 POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE YOU 14:47.578 --> 14:49.513 CAN'T BE MAD AT THE POLICE OR 14:49.646 --> 14:50.047 THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 14:50.180 --> 14:52.316 PLUS A LOT OF THEM SUPPORT ME. 14:52.449 --> 14:53.484 I'M NOT SURPRISED EITHER. 14:53.617 --> 14:55.085 THIS IS WHAT A CON DOES. 14:55.219 --> 14:57.554 THIS IS WHAT A FLIMFLAM MAN 14:57.688 --> 14:58.889 DOES, AND HE JUST IS PLAYING 14:59.023 --> 15:00.124 EVERY CARD IN THE DECK AND HE 15:00.257 --> 15:02.426 HAS ABOUT 72 OF THEM INSTEAD OF 15:02.559 --> 15:02.693 52. 15:02.826 --> 15:05.062 SO I'M NOT SURPRISED AT ALL. 15:05.195 --> 15:06.864 IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT'S THE BOOK 15:06.997 --> 15:08.599 OF CONS. 15:08.732 --> 15:09.900 >> CHARLIE, I HAVE A SLIGHTLY 15:10.034 --> 15:11.402 DIFFERENT -- FIRST OF ALL, I 15:11.535 --> 15:12.202 AGREE COMPLETELY WITH WENDY 15:12.336 --> 15:14.538 ABOUT THE POLITICS OF IT, BUT 15:14.671 --> 15:15.739 FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY ONE 15:15.873 --> 15:18.308 THING, WHICH IS GOOD FOR HIM 15:18.442 --> 15:19.476 THAT HE'S DOING IT. 15:19.610 --> 15:20.310 MEANING, I DON'T CARE IF 15:20.444 --> 15:22.012 AL-QAEDA IS GIVING US MASKS, WE 15:22.146 --> 15:24.715 NEED MASKS, SO I THINK THE FACT 15:24.848 --> 15:27.251 THAT HE'S DOING IT IS A 15:27.384 --> 15:27.918 COMMENDABLE THING. 15:28.052 --> 15:30.454 I THINK POLITICALLY, I THOUGHT 15:30.587 --> 15:32.890 IT WAS HILARIOUS ON A COUPLE OF 15:33.023 --> 15:33.223 FRONTS. 15:33.357 --> 15:35.159 IF YOU LISTEN TO THE FIRE CHIEF 15:35.292 --> 15:36.627 BEING INTERVIEWED, FIRST HE SAID 15:36.760 --> 15:39.296 HE'S DONATING THE MONEY AND THEN 15:39.430 --> 15:41.799 HE SAID, HE'S RAISED THE MONEY. 15:41.932 --> 15:44.968 I WAS LIKE, THIS IS THE BEST USE 15:45.102 --> 15:47.004 OF DARK MONEY THAT HE'S EVER HAD 15:47.137 --> 15:49.039 DONE AND WHERE HE'S TAKING IT, 15:49.173 --> 15:51.241 IT'S ALMOST LIKE A ROBIN HOOD 15:51.375 --> 15:51.542 THING. 15:51.675 --> 15:54.845 I THOUGHT THE IRONIC THING, AND 15:54.978 --> 15:56.847 I DON'T DISAGREE WITH WENDY'S 15:56.980 --> 15:57.548 ANALYSIS, HE WOULDN'T TALK TO 15:57.681 --> 15:58.348 THE MEDIA. 15:58.482 --> 16:00.250 BY THE WAY, HE'S DOOPG IT HERE, 16:00.384 --> 16:01.151 SOUTHEAST MISSOURI, KANSAS CITY, 16:01.285 --> 16:02.486 AND I THINK SPRINGFIELD. 16:02.619 --> 16:03.854 THIS IS A TOUR. 16:03.987 --> 16:05.522 YOU LOOK ON HIS TWITTER PAGE, 16:05.656 --> 16:06.924 AND THAT'S THE THING ABOUT IT. 16:07.057 --> 16:08.492 HE'S NOT TALKING TO THE MEDIA 16:08.625 --> 16:09.593 BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO LOOK 16:09.726 --> 16:15.032 LIKE HE'S SHOW BOATING, BUT HE'S 16:15.165 --> 16:20.304 STEERING LIKE NAVY SEAL HOO-YA 16:20.437 --> 16:22.272 AND THUL TO THINKS 85 -- AND ALL 16:22.406 --> 16:24.408 THIS TO HIS 85,000 TWITTER 16:24.541 --> 16:24.808 FOLLOWERS. 16:24.942 --> 16:26.009 >> IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING, I'LL 16:26.143 --> 16:27.344 TELL YOU THAT. 16:27.478 --> 16:28.378 WHAT'S NEXT WEEK? 16:28.512 --> 16:29.413 IS STEVE STENGER GOING TO 16:29.546 --> 16:30.080 DELIVER VENTILATORS? 16:30.214 --> 16:30.848 >> PROBABLY NOT. 16:30.981 --> 16:34.218 >> IF HE COULD GET OUT, HE'D 16:34.351 --> 16:35.519 HAVE THAT PATRIOTS PLANE FLYING 16:35.652 --> 16:37.054 DOWN HERE WITH SOMETHING ON IT. 16:37.187 --> 16:38.655 >> ALVIN REID, I WANT TO ASK YOU 16:38.789 --> 16:42.392 ABOUT A TOPIC WE COVERED BEFORE, 16:42.526 --> 16:43.994 BUT IT WAS REPORTED BY THE 16:44.128 --> 16:45.229 POST-DISPATCH AND OTHERS THAT 16:45.362 --> 16:47.865 WHEN LOCAL JUDGES DID RELEASE 16:47.998 --> 16:50.534 OFFENDERS FROM THE JAILS DUE TO 16:50.667 --> 16:52.870 FEAR OF CORONAVIRUS, THEY DID 16:53.003 --> 16:55.205 RELEASE SOME WITH VIOLENT 16:55.339 --> 16:56.406 RECORDS, INCLUDING ONE WHO IS 16:56.540 --> 16:58.142 ACCUSED OF MOLESTING A YOUNG 16:58.275 --> 16:58.442 GIRL. 16:58.575 --> 17:00.511 THAT WAS IN THE COUNTY, AND IN 17:00.644 --> 17:05.415 THE CITY, A FELLOW WHO ROBBED A 17:05.549 --> 17:08.018 WOMAN AT GUN POINT AND THE WOMAN 17:08.152 --> 17:10.821 WAS NOT ASKED IF SHE HAD ANY 17:10.954 --> 17:12.823 OPINION ON THE RELEASE NOR WAS 17:12.956 --> 17:14.858 THE GIRL OR THE FAMILY IN THE 17:14.992 --> 17:16.727 COUNTY INVOLVED IN THE 17:16.860 --> 17:18.128 MOLESTATION CASE. 17:18.262 --> 17:19.563 AND THERE WERE OTHER CASES 17:19.696 --> 17:21.932 INVOLVING CARJACKING AND 17:22.065 --> 17:23.567 FIREARMS AND MORE WHERE INMATES 17:23.700 --> 17:25.836 HAVE BEEN RELEASED. 17:25.969 --> 17:27.538 I MEAN, THIS IS -- THIS IS NOT 17:27.671 --> 17:31.074 GOOD AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. 17:31.208 --> 17:33.243 IS THIS GOING TO MAKE PEOPLE IN 17:33.377 --> 17:34.144 GREATER NUMBERS MOVE TO 17:34.278 --> 17:34.745 ST. CHARLES? 17:34.878 --> 17:35.479 WHAT DO YOU THINK? 17:35.612 --> 17:36.947 >> WELL, I THINK THERE WAS QUITE 17:37.080 --> 17:39.716 A RUSH TO GET THIS DONE AND I 17:39.850 --> 17:41.351 WOULD THINK BOTH PROSECUTORS, 17:41.485 --> 17:42.286 MAYBE THE PLAY HERE WOULD HAVE 17:42.419 --> 17:46.023 BEEN LIKE, WE DON'T NEED TO LET 17:46.156 --> 17:48.992 ANYBODY OUT UNTIL I'M SURE THE 17:49.126 --> 17:50.294 JUDGES OR THE TWO JUDGES 17:50.427 --> 17:52.095 INVOLVED WERE GOING TO NOT LET 17:52.229 --> 17:53.830 ANY VIOLENT CRIMINALS OUT, OR AT 17:53.964 --> 17:55.332 LEAST THE -- YOU KNOW, THE 17:55.465 --> 17:56.400 ALLEGED VIOLENT CRIMINALS. 17:56.533 --> 17:57.901 NOW, IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY, YOU 17:58.035 --> 17:59.136 KNOW, THE POOR FAMILY FINDS OUT 17:59.269 --> 18:01.205 THAT THIS GUY IS ON THE LOOSE 18:01.338 --> 18:02.839 FROM A REPORTER? 18:02.973 --> 18:04.508 I MEAN, THAT'S INEXCUSABLE AND 18:04.641 --> 18:06.910 YOU GOT TO THINK AHEAD ENOUGH TO 18:07.044 --> 18:08.378 HEAD THAT OFF AT THE PASS. 18:08.512 --> 18:10.447 I THOUGHT IT WAS RUSHED INTO. 18:10.581 --> 18:12.516 I'M GLAD THAT IT IS ON RECORD, 18:12.649 --> 18:15.285 BOTH PROSECUTORS, YOU KNOW, 18:15.419 --> 18:17.020 OBJECTED TO SOME OF THESE FOLKS' 18:17.154 --> 18:19.089 RELEASE, BUT I MEAN, BY THAT 18:19.223 --> 18:21.124 TIME THE HORSE IS ALREADY OUT OF 18:21.258 --> 18:22.726 THE BARN AND I THINK WE WERE 18:22.859 --> 18:24.728 JUST IN A RUSH TO DO THIS. 18:24.861 --> 18:26.129 IT'S TERRIBLE TO BE IN JAIL AT A 18:26.263 --> 18:27.397 TIME LIKE THIS, BUT IT'S TO 18:27.531 --> 18:30.400 WORSE THAN BEING IN A SENIOR 18:30.534 --> 18:30.867 RESIDENCE, OKAY? 18:31.001 --> 18:32.202 IT'S WHERE YOU'RE AT, YOU'RE 18:32.336 --> 18:33.537 GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. 18:33.670 --> 18:34.905 >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 18:35.038 --> 18:36.139 >> I JUST THOUGHT THERE WAS A 18:36.273 --> 18:37.608 RUSH AND I'M SURPRISED AT ALL 18:37.741 --> 18:38.809 THAT THIS HAPPENED. 18:38.942 --> 18:40.277 THAT'S WHY I WAS FEARFUL OF IT 18:40.410 --> 18:41.612 IN THE FIRST PLACE. 18:41.745 --> 18:42.779 >> I DON'T COMPLETELY AGREE 18:42.913 --> 18:43.847 BECAUSE, FIRST OF ALL, THE IDEA 18:43.981 --> 18:46.250 OF RELEASING NONVIOLENT FOLKS, 18:46.383 --> 18:48.318 PARTICULARLY THOSE AWAITING 18:48.452 --> 18:50.187 TRIAL, RIGHT NOW IS IMPORTANT 18:50.320 --> 18:52.189 FOR ONE POPULATION THAT I KNOW 18:52.322 --> 18:53.223 KIM GARDNER HAS TALKED ABOUT, 18:53.357 --> 18:54.658 WHO'S A FORMER NURSE, AND THAT 18:54.791 --> 18:57.094 IS THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE 18:57.227 --> 18:57.394 JAIL. 18:57.527 --> 18:59.429 THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT THEM. 18:59.563 --> 19:01.164 IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF 19:01.298 --> 19:02.866 PROTECTING THE INMATES, WHICH 19:03.000 --> 19:06.103 SHOULD MATTER TO US, BUT ALSO 19:06.236 --> 19:08.672 THE GOOD PEOPLE WHO ARE RICKING 19:08.805 --> 19:10.307 THEIR LIVES WITH THIS TYPE 19:10.440 --> 19:11.275 POPULATION. 19:11.408 --> 19:12.676 SO THERE'S THAT. 19:12.809 --> 19:14.411 THE THING THAT REALLY BOTHERS ME 19:14.544 --> 19:15.746 ABOUT THE STORY IS KIM GARDNER 19:15.879 --> 19:17.714 HAS RELEASED ZERO PEOPLE. 19:17.848 --> 19:20.150 WESLEY BELL HAS RELEASED ZERO 19:20.284 --> 19:20.484 PEOPLE. 19:20.617 --> 19:21.518 THEY HAVE THE SAME ABILITY TO 19:21.652 --> 19:23.920 GET PEOPLE OUT OF JAIL THAT THE 19:24.054 --> 19:25.689 FIVE OF US HAVE. 19:25.822 --> 19:27.557 THE FACT IS, IT'S UP TO JUDGES 19:27.691 --> 19:29.359 AND DO THEY MAKE BAD JUDGMENTS 19:29.493 --> 19:29.726 SOMETIMES? 19:29.860 --> 19:32.162 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REPORTING, 19:32.296 --> 19:35.065 FOR EXAMPLE -- THEN YOU HAVE 19:35.198 --> 19:41.238 PEOPLE LIKE ERIC SCHMITT PILING 19:41.371 --> 19:43.740 ON AND KIM GARDNER IS ON TOP OF 19:43.874 --> 19:44.274 IT -- 19:44.408 --> 19:47.311 >> RAY, RAY, LET ME STEP IN. 19:47.444 --> 19:51.448 >> OUT OF TEN PEOPLE HE CITED, 19:51.581 --> 19:52.616 KIM GARDNER HAD OPPOSED THE 19:52.749 --> 19:53.917 RELEASE OF EIGHT OF THEM. 19:54.051 --> 19:55.719 >> I KNOW YOU LIKE TO DEFEND KIM 19:55.852 --> 19:56.853 GARDNER, BUT WHEN KIM GARDNER 19:56.987 --> 19:57.821 AND WESLEY BELL PUSH HARD FOR 19:57.954 --> 19:59.323 THIS RELEASE AND THEY PUSHED 19:59.456 --> 20:01.958 VERY HARD FOR THE RELEASE OF THE 20:02.092 --> 20:03.593 NONVIOLENT PRISONERS, ALL OF A 20:03.727 --> 20:04.561 SUDDEN PRISONERS WHO SHOULDN'T 20:04.695 --> 20:06.330 BE RELEASED ARE RELEASED AND ALL 20:06.463 --> 20:08.165 OF A SUDDEN, WELL, KIM'S GOT 20:08.298 --> 20:09.366 NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. 20:09.499 --> 20:10.000 SHE DOES. 20:10.133 --> 20:12.869 IF YOU MAKE A BIG DEAL ABOUT 20:13.003 --> 20:13.837 WHERE PEOPLE GO -- 20:13.970 --> 20:15.439 >> I AGREE, THIS IS -- 20:15.572 --> 20:17.307 >> THIS IS HER RESPONSIBILITY. 20:17.441 --> 20:18.108 >> WHAT ABOUT THE JUDGES? 20:18.241 --> 20:19.209 >> WHAT ABOUT THEM? 20:19.343 --> 20:20.711 >> THE JUDGE DOESN'T HAVE TO 20:20.844 --> 20:21.812 ACCEPT -- LITERALLY -- 20:21.945 --> 20:23.680 >> NO, RAY, THIS IS WHY YOU -- 20:23.814 --> 20:25.615 >> THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY CAN COME 20:25.749 --> 20:27.150 IN AND BEG THE JUDGE TO LET 20:27.284 --> 20:29.886 SOMEBODY GO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO 20:30.020 --> 20:30.387 LET ANYBODY GO. 20:30.520 --> 20:31.188 >> KIM GARDNER AND WESLEY BELL 20:31.321 --> 20:33.590 WERE THE BIG MOVERS BEHIND THN 20:33.724 --> 20:34.691 ATHOUGHT AT THE TIME IT WAS A 20:34.825 --> 20:36.293 GOOD IDEA, BUT YOU CAN'T JUST 20:36.426 --> 20:37.527 SAY THEY'RE GREAT FOR DOING THIS 20:37.661 --> 20:39.429 AND WHEN THE WRONG PEOPLE GET 20:39.563 --> 20:42.532 RELEASED, SAY, WELL, KIM'S GOT 20:42.666 --> 20:44.034 NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. 20:44.167 --> 20:46.503 >> I'M SAYING THE JUDGES ARE THE 20:46.636 --> 20:47.838 ONES DOING THE RELEASING. 20:47.971 --> 20:49.306 >> I'M NOT A PROSECUTOR AND I 20:49.439 --> 20:51.808 SAID TWO WEEKS AGO THIS IS A BAD 20:51.942 --> 20:52.776 IDEA. 20:52.909 --> 20:54.378 I DON'T HAVE A LAW DEGREE, I'M 20:54.511 --> 20:56.446 NOT A PROSECUTOR, BUT IF I WAS, 20:56.580 --> 20:57.447 THE FIRST THING TILLED BE 20:57.581 --> 20:58.882 THINKING ABOUT IS NOT THE POOR 20:59.015 --> 21:00.617 SOULS THAT ARE IN JAIL, BUT WHAT 21:00.751 --> 21:02.486 IF SOMEBODY GETS OUT THAT'S NOT 21:02.619 --> 21:03.420 SUPPOSED TO. 21:03.553 --> 21:05.956 INSTEAD OF JUST LAUNCHING INTO, 21:06.089 --> 21:07.657 WE GOT TO HELP THESE PEOPLE -- 21:07.791 --> 21:10.227 >> I WANT TO ASK YOU -- 21:10.360 --> 21:11.762 >> I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE 21:11.895 --> 21:12.229 OF A PERN -- 21:12.362 --> 21:14.531 >> LET ME ASK YOU, BILL, ABOUT 21:14.664 --> 21:17.434 THE AUTHORITIES ARE ASKING US AS 21:17.567 --> 21:19.970 CITIZENS NOW TO TURN IN PEOPLE 21:20.103 --> 21:22.038 WHO ARE NOT SOCIALLY DISTANCING, 21:22.172 --> 21:24.207 EITHER IN LARGE GROUPS OR 21:24.341 --> 21:25.876 BUSINESSES WHICH ARE OPEN IN 21:26.009 --> 21:28.178 VIOLATION OF THE STAY IN PLACE 21:28.311 --> 21:28.578 GUIDELINES. 21:28.712 --> 21:30.680 HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT ORDINARY 21:30.814 --> 21:32.115 CITIZENS DROPPING A DIME ON 21:32.249 --> 21:35.252 THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS IN THIS 21:35.385 --> 21:37.387 CORONAVIRUS CRISIS? 21:37.521 --> 21:39.790 >> I'VE CALLED IN ON THREE OF MY 21:39.923 --> 21:43.260 NEIGHBORS, CHARLIE, SO I -- 21:43.393 --> 21:44.227 [ LAUGHTER ] 21:44.361 --> 21:45.762 I HAVE REALLY MIXED FEELINGS 21:45.896 --> 21:47.898 ABOUT IT, AND YOU KNOW, IF 21:48.031 --> 21:49.466 SOMETHING WERE REALLY OBVIOUS, 21:49.599 --> 21:51.435 LIKE IF YOU DROVE PAST A PARK 21:51.568 --> 21:53.737 AND THERE WAS A PARTY GOING ON, 21:53.870 --> 21:54.871 I COULD SEE SOMEBODY SAYING WE 21:55.005 --> 21:57.073 OUGHT TO ALERT THE AUTHORITIES. 21:57.207 --> 21:59.342 BUT TRYING TO WATCH TO SEE IF 21:59.476 --> 22:01.077 PEOPLE ARE KEEPING THEIR 22:01.211 --> 22:04.414 SIX-FOOT DISTANCE, I MEAN -- AND 22:04.548 --> 22:06.116 ON THE POOR POLICE, I WOULDN'T 22:06.249 --> 22:07.918 WANT TO BE A COP, YOU KNOW, 22:08.051 --> 22:10.487 ANSWERING CALLS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 22:10.620 --> 22:12.656 THEY'RE DOING IT AGAIN, THERE'S 22:12.789 --> 22:13.690 THREE OF THEM. 22:13.824 --> 22:15.759 SO I'M NOT VERY ENTHUSED ABOUT 22:15.892 --> 22:19.529 PEOPLE CALLING IN ON, YOU KNOW, 22:19.663 --> 22:20.163 VIOLATIONS OF THE SOCIAL 22:20.297 --> 22:20.564 DISTANCING. 22:20.697 --> 22:21.731 >> WELL, I THINK FOR THAT VERY 22:21.865 --> 22:23.600 REASON YOU MENTIONED, BILL, THE 22:23.733 --> 22:25.702 FACT THAT THE POLICE ARE, YOU 22:25.836 --> 22:29.473 KNOW, PROBABLY BUSIER THAN EVER, 22:29.606 --> 22:33.043 I DO THINK THAT AS RESIDENTS OF 22:33.176 --> 22:34.878 THE CITY OR COUNTY, OBVIOUSLY IN 22:35.011 --> 22:36.913 THE COUNTY THEY'RE ASKING US TO 22:37.047 --> 22:40.517 KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR BUSINESSES 22:40.650 --> 22:43.920 THAT ARE VIOLATING THE ORDER TO 22:44.054 --> 22:46.089 CLOSE, IF THEY ARE DEEMED 22:46.223 --> 22:47.924 NON-ESSENTIAL, BECAUSE, YOU 22:48.058 --> 22:50.060 KNOW, WE WERE -- THIS IS -- IT 22:50.193 --> 22:51.661 SORT OF FEELS LIKE A TERRORIST 22:51.795 --> 22:53.497 ATTACK AND, YOU KNOW ARE WE'RE 22:53.630 --> 22:55.899 ALWAYS TOLD BACK WHEN IF YOU SEE 22:56.032 --> 22:57.834 SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING. 22:57.968 --> 22:59.736 AND SO I THINK THAT MAYBE MAKING 22:59.870 --> 23:01.438 A CALL OR DROPPING A DIME TO 23:01.571 --> 23:04.074 SAVE A LIFE, IF YOU WILL. 23:04.207 --> 23:06.943 >> WELL, I THINK WHEN HOBBY 23:07.077 --> 23:08.345 LOBBY GOT DECLARED NONESSENTIAL 23:08.478 --> 23:10.413 TODAY, AT LEAST SOME PLACES, 23:10.547 --> 23:14.484 MAYBE NOT EVERYWHERE, AND I 23:14.618 --> 23:16.686 DON'T REALLY LIKE HOBBY LOBBY, 23:16.820 --> 23:18.321 BUT I WOULDN'T DROP A DIME ON 23:18.455 --> 23:18.755 HOBBY LOBBY. 23:18.889 --> 23:20.190 >> BUT THEY'RE ENDANGERING THE 23:20.323 --> 23:21.424 LIVES OF -- 23:21.558 --> 23:23.760 >> I'M WITH WENDY. 23:23.894 --> 23:26.663 THIS IS A GLOBAL PANDEMIC. 23:26.796 --> 23:30.433 THIS ISN'T LIKE NARC'ING ON 23:30.567 --> 23:30.800 SOMEBODY. 23:30.934 --> 23:31.635 THIS IS A GLOBAL PANDEMIC WHERE 23:31.768 --> 23:34.471 PEOPLE WHO ARE VIOLATING THE 23:34.604 --> 23:36.139 LAWS OF SOCIAL -- AND I DON'T 23:36.273 --> 23:37.774 EVEN EVERY GROUP OF TWO OR THREE 23:37.908 --> 23:38.675 PEOPLE WALKING ON THE STREET, 23:38.808 --> 23:41.611 BUT IN TERMS OF BUSINESSES 23:41.745 --> 23:44.514 OPERATING IN DEFIANCE OF THE 23:44.648 --> 23:44.915 RULES -- 23:45.048 --> 23:46.883 >> THIS IS A DIFFERENT THING. 23:47.017 --> 23:48.385 I THOUGHT THIS WAS CALLING IN ON 23:48.518 --> 23:48.919 YOUR NEIGHBORS. 23:49.052 --> 23:50.954 >> NO, PART OF IT IS BUSINESSES, 23:51.087 --> 23:53.290 AND I AGREE WITH YOU, BILL. 23:53.423 --> 23:54.658 YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CALL ON TWO 23:54.791 --> 23:55.926 OF YOUR NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE 23:56.059 --> 23:57.294 STREET, BUT THE IDEA IF YOU SEE 23:57.427 --> 23:59.496 A GROUP GATHERING OR YOU SEE A 23:59.629 --> 24:01.064 BUSINESS THAT'S VIOLATING THE 24:01.197 --> 24:02.198 ORDERS THAT OTHER BUSINESSES -- 24:02.332 --> 24:03.466 WENDY IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 24:03.600 --> 24:06.603 THIS IS A GLOBAL PANDEMIC. 24:06.736 --> 24:08.371 YOU ARE ENDANGERING OUR LIVES 24:08.505 --> 24:09.105 AND EVERYBODY. 24:09.239 --> 24:11.308 >> WELL, BILL, WHAT DO YOU THINK 24:11.441 --> 24:12.976 OF, RIGHT NOW AS OF YESTERDAY 24:13.109 --> 24:14.978 ANYWAY, THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS 24:15.111 --> 24:16.446 DID RELEASE INFORMATION ABOUT 24:16.580 --> 24:18.348 THOSE WHO TESTED POSITIVE AND 24:18.481 --> 24:20.283 WHAT ZIP CODES THEY'RE LIVING 24:20.417 --> 24:22.686 IN, BUT I DID HEAR FROM ONE 24:22.819 --> 24:24.254 ST. LOUIS BUSINESSMAN WHO HAS AN 24:24.387 --> 24:26.890 OFFICE IN PITTSBURGH, IN 24:27.023 --> 24:28.224 ALLEGHENY COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA, 24:28.358 --> 24:29.793 WHERE THEY NOT ONLY RELEASE 24:29.926 --> 24:31.027 THAT, BUT THEY'LL RELEASE, FOR 24:31.161 --> 24:32.429 EXAMPLE, THE AGE AND THE RACE 24:32.562 --> 24:35.031 AND THE GENDER OF THE PERSON WHO 24:35.165 --> 24:36.299 IS TESTING POSITIVE. 24:36.433 --> 24:37.701 YOU THINK WE NEED MORE 24:37.834 --> 24:38.835 INFORMATION LOCALLY ABOUT THAT? 24:38.969 --> 24:40.937 >> YEAH, I DO. 24:41.071 --> 24:43.139 I THINK THAT THE INFORMATION IS 24:43.273 --> 24:45.308 REALLY HELPFUL TO PEOPLE, AND I 24:45.442 --> 24:47.744 WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE 24:47.877 --> 24:48.878 INFORMATION ABOUT PEOPLE'S 24:49.012 --> 24:51.481 CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU 24:51.615 --> 24:53.283 READ THAT A 40-YEAR-OLD MAN, 24:53.416 --> 24:56.019 YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW IF AT THE HAD 24:56.152 --> 24:57.554 PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS AND 24:57.687 --> 24:58.688 EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE AND WHERE 24:58.822 --> 25:00.590 THESE THINGS ARE OCCURRING. 25:00.724 --> 25:02.359 I KNOW THE REPORTERS AT THE 25:02.492 --> 25:04.527 PAPER ARE, YOU KNOW, RUNNING 25:04.661 --> 25:07.430 AROUND AND TRYING TO GET AS MUCH 25:07.564 --> 25:09.399 INFORMATION AS THEY CAN, AND THE 25:09.532 --> 25:11.835 CITY IS FINALLY AT LEAST GIVING 25:11.968 --> 25:13.603 OUT ZIP CODES, WHICH IS A GOOD 25:13.737 --> 25:14.237 THING. 25:14.371 --> 25:16.239 BUT I THINK THE MORE 25:16.373 --> 25:17.173 INFORMATION, THE BETTER. 25:17.307 --> 25:18.908 EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT IN 25:19.042 --> 25:21.678 FAVOR OF SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, 25:21.811 --> 25:24.247 SO-AND-SO OF THE -- AND GIVE AN 25:24.381 --> 25:24.581 ADDRESS. 25:24.714 --> 25:27.017 BUT LIKE BUSINESSES, I THINK WE 25:27.150 --> 25:30.520 OUGHT TO KNOW WHAT BUSINESSES 25:30.654 --> 25:33.657 HAVE HAD EMPLOYEES INFECTED, 25:33.790 --> 25:33.957 SURE. 25:34.090 --> 25:34.591 >> BUT DON'T WE? 25:34.724 --> 25:36.860 I MEAN, WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION 25:36.993 --> 25:42.932 TODAY AT THE RADIO STATION. 25:43.066 --> 25:44.968 DIERBERGS HAS ANNOUNCED WHEN ANY 25:45.101 --> 25:46.436 OF THEIR -- SO THAT IS 25:46.569 --> 25:47.037 HAPPENING, RIGHT? 25:47.170 --> 25:50.807 >> YES, BUT I THINK, WENDY, THAT 25:50.940 --> 25:52.676 THAT'S RIGHT NOW UP TO THE 25:52.809 --> 25:54.210 INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES. 25:54.344 --> 25:55.845 LIKE I DON'T THINK THAT -- SIT 25:55.979 --> 25:56.613 THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT 25:56.746 --> 25:59.349 RELEASING THAT? 25:59.482 --> 26:00.350 >> I'M NOT SURE. 26:00.483 --> 26:01.985 >> I STAND CORRECTED IF THAT'S 26:02.118 --> 26:02.352 THE CASE. 26:02.485 --> 26:04.220 >> I, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T -- 26:04.354 --> 26:06.389 >> ANY KIND OF SOCIAL TRACING 26:06.523 --> 26:07.724 THAT CAN BE DONE, AND I AGREE 26:07.857 --> 26:09.392 WITH YOU, CONSISTENT WITH 26:09.526 --> 26:10.660 PEOPLE'S PERSONAL PRIVACY. 26:10.794 --> 26:12.996 I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE, YOU 26:13.129 --> 26:16.099 KNOW, IDENTIFYING INDIVIDUAL A, 26:16.232 --> 26:18.068 BUT IF SOMEBODY WAS OUT -- FOR 26:18.201 --> 26:20.303 EXAMPLE, I THINK THERE WAS A 26:20.437 --> 26:21.004 SCHNUCKS STORE. 26:21.137 --> 26:22.305 IT DOESN'T MATTER, THEY'VE ALL 26:22.439 --> 26:24.140 BEEN -- I THINK OUR GROCERY 26:24.274 --> 26:26.843 STORES HAVE REALLY BEEN AMAZING. 26:26.976 --> 26:28.812 >> ABSOLUTELY. 26:28.945 --> 26:31.247 HEY, A MINUTE TO GO -- 26:31.381 --> 26:32.615 >> IT'S GOOD TO KNOW. 26:32.749 --> 26:34.884 >> ABOUT A MINUTE TO GO, WHAT DO 26:35.018 --> 26:36.319 YOU THINK OF JOSH HAWLEY, U.S. 26:36.453 --> 26:37.854 SENATOR IN MISSOURI, WHO'S 26:37.987 --> 26:39.723 AGAINST A BAILOUT FOR THE CRUISE 26:39.856 --> 26:41.357 LINES? 26:41.491 --> 26:42.492 >> WELL, I DON'T -- 26:42.625 --> 26:44.094 >> OH, I THOUGHT HE WAS TALKING 26:44.227 --> 26:44.527 TO ME. 26:44.661 --> 26:45.395 >> GO AHEAD, BILL. 26:45.528 --> 26:47.931 >> I WAS GOING TO SAY, AS I 26:48.064 --> 26:49.799 UNDERSTAND IT, HE'S AGAINST 26:49.933 --> 26:51.067 GIVING BAILOUT MONEY TO THE 26:51.201 --> 26:52.068 CRUISE SHIPS THAT ARE REGISTERED 26:52.202 --> 26:54.104 IN OTHER COUNTRIES AND I THINK 26:54.237 --> 26:55.238 THAT'S -- I THINK HE'S RIGHT ON 26:55.371 --> 26:55.638 THE MONEY. 26:55.772 --> 26:57.607 >> I THINK LIKE A WALMART IS 26:57.741 --> 26:58.341 REGISTERED IN THE UNITED STATES 26:58.475 --> 27:01.544 AND 75% OF THE PRODUCTS ARE FROM 27:01.678 --> 27:03.379 ANOTHER COUNTRY. 27:03.513 --> 27:05.181 ALSO, IT'S A GOOD FORMER 27:05.315 --> 27:06.950 ST. LOUISAN, HE THINK HE STILL 27:07.083 --> 27:09.052 LIVES HERE, USED TO BE CEO OF 27:09.185 --> 27:10.820 CARNIVAL, ARNOLD DONALD. 27:10.954 --> 27:12.555 I DON'T KNOW IF JOSH KNOWS HIS 27:12.689 --> 27:13.957 ST. LOUIS CONNECTION TO ALL 27:14.090 --> 27:15.625 THIS, BUT A CRUISE SHIP MIGHT BE 27:15.759 --> 27:16.893 REGISTERED SOMEPLACE ELSE, BUT 27:17.026 --> 27:18.495 MILLIONS OF AMERICANS PAY FOR 27:18.628 --> 27:19.829 CRUISES AND THEY LIKE TO CRUISE 27:19.963 --> 27:22.098 AND I THINK TO PICK ON -- ONCE 27:22.232 --> 27:23.500 AGAIN, YOU'RE PICKING ON ONE 27:23.633 --> 27:25.101 INDUSTRY FOR SOME REASON AND A 27:25.235 --> 27:27.871 LOT OF OTHERS ARE SKATING, AND I 27:28.004 --> 27:28.738 JUST THINK IT'S -- 27:28.872 --> 27:29.239 >> WOULD GOOD -- 27:29.372 --> 27:30.573 [ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ] 27:30.707 --> 27:33.376 >> FOR ONES, I'M WITH JOSH. 27:33.510 --> 27:34.744 >> CRUISE LINE EMPLOYEES ARE 27:34.878 --> 27:36.045 ALSO FROM OTHER COUNTRIES. 27:36.179 --> 27:38.982 >> RAY WAS WITH JOSH HAWLEY AND 27:39.115 --> 27:40.350 WE'RE OUT OF TIME. 27:40.483 --> 27:42.819 >> BUT CRUISE LINES ARE NOT 27:42.952 --> 27:43.353 AMERICAN COMPANIES. 27:43.486 --> 27:46.055 >> FOR THE NEXT EDITION OF 27:46.189 --> 27:47.657 BELIEVE IT OR NOT, RAY WAS WITH 27:47.791 --> 27:48.057 JOSH HAWLEY. 27:48.191 --> 27:48.892 >> ONE TIME. 27:49.025 --> 27:50.059 >> THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE 27:50.193 --> 27:51.528 FOR THIS EVENING'S BROADCAST. 27:51.661 --> 27:53.129 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING 27:53.263 --> 27:53.396 US. 27:53.530 --> 27:54.430 STAY SAFE, SEE YOU NEXT WEEK AT 27:54.564 --> 27:56.099 THIS TIME. 27:56.232 --> 27:57.133 >> Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE 27:57.267 --> 27:57.867 POSSIBLE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE 27:58.001 --> 28:01.104 NINE NETWORK.