1 00:00:09,766 --> 00:00:12,433 IN KENTUCKY'S CLOSELY WATCHED 2 00:00:11,333 --> 00:00:15,300 GOVERNOR'S RACE SHOWING WHICH 3 00:00:12,433 --> 00:00:16,866 CANDIDATES HAVE EARLY ADVANTAGE 4 00:00:15,300 --> 00:00:18,100 ONE CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR GOES 5 00:00:16,866 --> 00:00:20,766 TO THE U.S. BORDER WITH MEXICO 6 00:00:18,100 --> 00:00:22,100 TO MAKE A NEW AD. WHO INSPECTS 7 00:00:20,766 --> 00:00:26,100 THOSE BIG SIGNS LIKE THE ONE 8 00:00:22,100 --> 00:00:28,000 THAT TRAGICALLY FELL AT AN ELIZ 9 00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:29,433 THE STATE TRANSPORTATION 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:33,166 SECRETARY WONDERS ALOUD WHAT 11 00:00:29,433 --> 00:00:34,866 HAPPENS TO ROADS MAINTAINED BY 12 00:00:33,166 --> 00:00:36,866 GASOLINE TAX AS MORE DRIVERS GO 13 00:00:34,866 --> 00:00:37,600 ELECTRIC. 14 00:00:36,866 --> 00:00:42,800 HEADING INTO THE LAST WEEKEND 15 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,800 JANUARY, "COMMENT" IS NEXT ON K. 16 00:00:43,033 --> 00:00:53,300 GOOD EVENING. I'M BILL BRYANT, 17 00:00:51,700 --> 00:00:55,000 AND WE WELCOME YOU TO "COMMENT 18 00:00:53,300 --> 00:00:56,366 ON KENTUCKY," A LOOK BACK AT AND 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,200 SOME ANALYSIS OF THE WEEK'S NEWS 20 00:00:56,366 --> 00:01:00,900 IN THE COMMONWEALTH. AND THE 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:05,533 GUESTS ON OUR PANEL OF WORKING 22 00:01:00,900 --> 00:01:06,166 KENTUCKY JOURNALISTS TONIGHT AR 23 00:01:05,533 --> 00:01:08,766 OLIVIA KRAUTH, POLITICAL 24 00:01:06,166 --> 00:01:11,266 REPORTER FOR THE COURIER-JOURNA 25 00:01:08,766 --> 00:01:12,900 CHRIS OTTS, REPORTER FOR WDRB I 26 00:01:11,266 --> 00:01:16,000 AND AUSTIN HORN, POLITICAL 27 00:01:12,900 --> 00:01:17,700 REPORTER FOR THE LEXINGTON HERA 28 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,233 ALSO TONIGHT, A SPECIAL ELECTIO 29 00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:21,533 IS SET IN THE STATE SENATE RACE 30 00:01:19,233 --> 00:01:23,233 IN LOUISVILLE AFTER MORE POLLIN 31 00:01:21,533 --> 00:01:24,033 PLACES ARE ADDED, AND SOME 32 00:01:23,233 --> 00:01:27,133 STUDENTS GIVE THEIR IDEAS ABOUT 33 00:01:24,033 --> 00:01:28,433 SCHOOL SAFETY. 34 00:01:27,133 --> 00:01:28,900 SO WE HAVE A LOT TO DISCUSS 35 00:01:28,433 --> 00:01:29,633 TONIGHT. 36 00:01:28,900 --> 00:01:31,733 LET'S BEGIN WITH THE GOVERNOR'S 37 00:01:29,633 --> 00:01:33,033 RACE WHERE THE FIRST MAJOR 38 00:01:31,733 --> 00:01:34,766 INDEPENDENT POLL DROPPED THIS 39 00:01:33,033 --> 00:01:36,266 WEEK, GIVING US SOME IDEA OF 40 00:01:34,766 --> 00:01:37,733 WHERE THINGS STAND EARLY IN THE 41 00:01:36,266 --> 00:01:38,600 GOVERNOR'S RACE. 42 00:01:37,733 --> 00:01:41,166 AMONG THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT 43 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:43,000 POLL FROM MASON DIXON, GOVERNOR 44 00:01:41,166 --> 00:01:48,500 BESHEAR'S APPROVAL RATING IS 45 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:48,933 PEGGED AT 61%, WITH ONLY 29% 46 00:01:48,500 --> 00:01:50,800 DISAPPROVING. 47 00:01:48,933 --> 00:01:53,700 THE REST SAID THEY WERE UNSURE. 48 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,200 THE POLL ALSO SHOWS ATTORNEY 49 00:01:53,700 --> 00:01:56,266 GENERAL DANIEL CAMERON IS THE 50 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,233 CLEAR EARLY FRONTRUNNER FOR THE 51 00:01:56,266 --> 00:02:00,100 REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FOR 52 00:01:58,233 --> 00:02:02,166 GOVERNOR WITH 39%, INDICATING 53 00:02:00,100 --> 00:02:04,800 THEY FAVOR CAMERON. 54 00:02:02,166 --> 00:02:08,200 UNDECIDED WAS NEXT AT 28%. 55 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:09,500 AND FORMER U.N. AMBASSADOR KELLY 56 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,233 CRAFT, WHO HAS BEEN RUNNING A 57 00:02:09,500 --> 00:02:14,233 HEAVY SCHEDULE OF TV ADS, SHOWS 58 00:02:11,233 --> 00:02:15,966 UP NEXT AT 13%. 59 00:02:14,233 --> 00:02:16,400 ALL OTHERS WERE IN SINGLE 60 00:02:15,966 --> 00:02:18,600 DIGITS. 61 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,166 AUSTIN, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THIS 62 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,866 POLL THAT CLEARLY SHOWS GOVERNOR 63 00:02:20,166 --> 00:02:23,233 BESHEAR IS IN A STRONG EARLY 64 00:02:22,866 --> 00:02:24,566 POSITION? 65 00:02:23,233 --> 00:02:27,800 >> Austin: FIRST OFF, AS YOU 66 00:02:24,566 --> 00:02:28,766 KIND OF MENTIONED THERE, IT'S 67 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,533 UNDENIABLY GOOD NEWS FOR THE 68 00:02:28,766 --> 00:02:32,166 GOVERNOR. 69 00:02:29,533 --> 00:02:33,500 49 TO 40 IS THE CLOSEST CONTEST 70 00:02:32,166 --> 00:02:34,766 THAT THEY HAVE BETWEEN HIM AND 71 00:02:33,500 --> 00:02:37,433 ATTORNEY GENERAL CAMERON, SO THE 72 00:02:34,766 --> 00:02:39,100 LEAD IS REAL THERE, BUT AT THE 73 00:02:37,433 --> 00:02:41,966 SAME TIME THERE WAS A POLL DONE 74 00:02:39,100 --> 00:02:44,966 BY THE SAME FIRM LAST CYCLE IN 75 00:02:41,966 --> 00:02:46,966 2019 THAT MEASURED OUT BESHEAR 76 00:02:44,966 --> 00:02:49,500 VERSUS BEVIN, AND BESHEAR WAS UP 77 00:02:46,966 --> 00:02:51,766 ON BEVIN 9 POINTS AT THAT TIME. 78 00:02:49,500 --> 00:02:54,300 NOW HE ONLY ENDED UP WINNING BY 79 00:02:51,766 --> 00:02:55,000 A PERCENTAGE OF 1 POINT, 80 00:02:54,300 --> 00:02:56,833 MAYBE .4 POINTS OR SOMETHING 81 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,900 LIKE THAT. 82 00:02:56,833 --> 00:03:01,400 THE OTHER KIND OF BIG TAKEAWAY 83 00:02:58,900 --> 00:03:03,166 FROM THIS ONE THAT I TOOK WAS 84 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,100 CAMERON'S LEAD SEEMS REAL. 85 00:03:03,166 --> 00:03:08,400 EARLIER THIS MONTH WE GOT A POLL 86 00:03:05,100 --> 00:03:09,933 FROM TEAM CAMERON THAT SAID, I'M 87 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,033 UP 30 POINTS, THAT'S WHY YOU 88 00:03:09,933 --> 00:03:14,100 SHOULD SUPPORT ME OVEROVER ALL 89 00:03:13,033 --> 00:03:15,066 THE OTHER REPUBLICANS. 90 00:03:14,100 --> 00:03:17,166 IT WASN'T QUITE THE MARGIN OF 91 00:03:15,066 --> 00:03:19,333 HIS OWN POLL BUT IT WAS STEAL A 92 00:03:17,166 --> 00:03:20,366 REALLY SIZABLE ONE. 93 00:03:19,333 --> 00:03:22,533 I THINK MAYBE TWIXT POINTS, 94 00:03:20,366 --> 00:03:23,866 SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OVER KELLY 95 00:03:22,533 --> 00:03:25,833 CRAFT, SO HE IS CLEARLY RIGHT 96 00:03:23,866 --> 00:03:28,666 NOW THE CANDIDATE TO BEAT, BUT 97 00:03:25,833 --> 00:03:30,166 IT'S ALSO POTENTIALLY SQUISHY 98 00:03:28,666 --> 00:03:31,366 BECAUSE HE'S GOT VERY HIGH NAME 99 00:03:30,166 --> 00:03:33,066 I.D. OVER THE OTHER CANDIDATES, 100 00:03:31,366 --> 00:03:35,533 AND THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE AS 101 00:03:33,066 --> 00:03:37,566 KELLY CRAFT GETS UP ON TV MORE, 102 00:03:35,533 --> 00:03:39,600 AS RYAN QUARLES GETS TO UNLOAD 103 00:03:37,566 --> 00:03:40,600 SOME OF HIS MONEY THAT HE'S BEEN 104 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,233 SQUIRRELING AWAY FOR A REALLY 105 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,100 LONG TIME, SO IT COULD GET 106 00:03:43,233 --> 00:03:45,933 INTERESTING, BUT RIGHT NOW 107 00:03:44,100 --> 00:03:48,133 CAMERON IS THE GUY TO BEAT. 108 00:03:45,933 --> 00:03:48,800 >> Bill: OLIVIA, YOUR TAKE AS 109 00:03:48,133 --> 00:03:49,133 YOU HAD A LOOK AT THOSE 110 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:49,766 NUMBERS. 111 00:03:49,133 --> 00:03:52,100 >> Olivia: YEAH, I THOUGHT 112 00:03:49,766 --> 00:03:54,533 THEY WERE VERY UNSURPRISING. 113 00:03:52,100 --> 00:03:56,266 WE JUST IN THE MORNING CONSULT. 114 00:03:54,533 --> 00:03:56,766 FOLKS SAY BESHEAR IS INCREDIBLY 115 00:03:56,266 --> 00:03:58,033 POPULAR. 116 00:03:56,766 --> 00:04:00,700 SO THESE NUMBERS SHOWED, YES, HE 117 00:03:58,033 --> 00:04:03,766 IS INCREDIBLY POPULAR. 118 00:04:00,700 --> 00:04:06,000 AND WE'LL SEE HOW THAT CHANGES. 119 00:04:03,766 --> 00:04:07,333 >> Bill: WHAT ABOUT THE FACT 120 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,333 THAT -- AND AUSTIN, YOU MADE 121 00:04:07,333 --> 00:04:11,900 REFERENCE TO THIS -- THAT IN 122 00:04:10,333 --> 00:04:14,433 2019 THE POLLING SHIFTED, BUT 123 00:04:11,900 --> 00:04:17,766 THE APPROVAL RATING FOR BESHEAR 124 00:04:14,433 --> 00:04:19,266 HAS HELD RELATIVELY CONSIST NOW 125 00:04:17,766 --> 00:04:19,966 WERE ABOUT THREE YEARS, RIGHT 126 00:04:19,266 --> 00:04:21,633 AROUND 60%. 127 00:04:19,966 --> 00:04:24,066 IS THAT BAKE INTO THE CAKE AT 128 00:04:21,633 --> 00:04:28,533 THIS POINT, THAT THAT'S WHERE HE 129 00:04:24,066 --> 00:04:30,433 IS WITH THE ELECTORATE? 130 00:04:28,533 --> 00:04:30,700 >> Austin: IT REALLY MIGHT 131 00:04:30,433 --> 00:04:32,300 BE. 132 00:04:30,700 --> 00:04:33,333 REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO SPEND 133 00:04:32,300 --> 00:04:35,966 ALL TIME THEY CAN CONNECTING HIM 134 00:04:33,333 --> 00:04:37,533 TO BIDEN WHO HAS A 40-SOME 135 00:04:35,966 --> 00:04:39,333 APPROVAL RATING IN THE U.S. AND 136 00:04:37,533 --> 00:04:39,700 E. WHO KNOWS HOW LOW IT IS IN 137 00:04:39,333 --> 00:04:41,233 KENTUCKY. 138 00:04:39,700 --> 00:04:43,466 IF FIRST FRAME ON KELLY CRAFT'S 139 00:04:41,233 --> 00:04:45,333 LATEST AD IS A PICTURE OF THE 140 00:04:43,466 --> 00:04:46,766 TRUMP BORDER WALL SUPER IMPOSED 141 00:04:45,333 --> 00:04:48,033 WITH TWO PHOTOS OF BIDEN AND 142 00:04:46,766 --> 00:04:51,100 BESHEAR PUTTING ON A MASK, WHICH 143 00:04:48,033 --> 00:04:52,866 I GUESS THAT MEANS THEY THINK 144 00:04:51,100 --> 00:04:54,633 MASKS DON'T WORK WELL 145 00:04:52,866 --> 00:04:55,366 POLITICALLY IN TERMS OF IMAGERY 146 00:04:54,633 --> 00:04:56,433 IN KENTUCKY. 147 00:04:55,366 --> 00:04:58,333 BUT I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE 148 00:04:56,433 --> 00:05:00,566 SORT OF THE SHARED GOAL OF ALL 149 00:04:58,333 --> 00:05:04,033 THESE REPUBLICANS, IS GETTING 150 00:05:00,566 --> 00:05:05,966 THAT 61% DOWN TO 50% OR WHATEVER 151 00:05:04,033 --> 00:05:07,500 THAT GOAL PERCENTAGE IS WHERE 152 00:05:05,966 --> 00:05:08,366 HE'S MORE BEATABLE. 153 00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:11,400 >> Bill: WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF 154 00:05:08,366 --> 00:05:12,933 THE FACT THAT THE GOVERNOR GOT 155 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,166 HIGH APPROVAL AMONG MEN AND 156 00:05:12,933 --> 00:05:17,500 WOMEN, AROUND 60% IN EVERY 157 00:05:14,166 --> 00:05:19,466 REGION OF THE STATE, 41% OF 158 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:20,566 REPUBLICANS SAID THEY APPROVE OF 159 00:05:19,466 --> 00:05:22,100 THE JOB THAT THE DEMOCRATIC 160 00:05:20,566 --> 00:05:24,266 GOVERNOR IS DOING. 161 00:05:22,100 --> 00:05:26,133 AND I THINK I USED THIS TERM 162 00:05:24,266 --> 00:05:26,466 WHEN THAT EARLIER POLL CAME 163 00:05:26,133 --> 00:05:28,533 OUT. 164 00:05:26,466 --> 00:05:30,833 DOES THAT CREATE HEARTBURN FOR 165 00:05:28,533 --> 00:05:34,566 THE GOP THIS YEAR? 166 00:05:30,833 --> 00:05:35,566 >> Austin: I THINK IT DOES. 167 00:05:34,566 --> 00:05:37,266 ANOTHER BIG ADVANTAGE AND 168 00:05:35,566 --> 00:05:43,333 DIFFERENCE FROM LAST TIME IS 169 00:05:37,266 --> 00:05:47,066 THAT BESHEAR HAS MORE OF A 170 00:05:43,333 --> 00:05:48,266 NATURAL ORGANISM OCCURRIC 171 00:05:47,066 --> 00:05:50,233 PULPIT. 172 00:05:48,266 --> 00:05:52,733 CAMERON HAS MORE. 173 00:05:50,233 --> 00:05:54,166 BUT BESHEAR CAN STILL MAKE NEWS 174 00:05:52,733 --> 00:05:55,433 PRETTY CONSTANTLY JUST BECAUSE 175 00:05:54,166 --> 00:05:58,433 WHEN THE GOVERNOR SPEAKS, YOU 176 00:05:55,433 --> 00:06:01,066 KIND OF HAVE TO LISTEN, AND HE'S 177 00:05:58,433 --> 00:06:03,033 ABLE TO PUT OUT HIS MESSAGE AND 178 00:06:01,066 --> 00:06:04,766 HIS KIND OF MR. ROGERS AFFECT 179 00:06:03,033 --> 00:06:07,233 THAT HE REALLY LOVES TO KIND OF 180 00:06:04,766 --> 00:06:09,566 CENTER ON. 181 00:06:07,233 --> 00:06:09,933 SO IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG, BIG 182 00:06:09,566 --> 00:06:11,300 CHALLENGE. 183 00:06:09,933 --> 00:06:12,700 >> Bill: OLIVIA, IT WAS 184 00:06:11,300 --> 00:06:15,500 INTERESTING TO ME THAT AFTER TWO 185 00:06:12,700 --> 00:06:16,833 TERM IN STATE OFFICE, 57% SAID 186 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:18,266 THEY DID NOT RECOGNIZE THE NAME 187 00:06:16,833 --> 00:06:20,333 OF AGRICULTURAL COMMISSIONER 188 00:06:18,266 --> 00:06:21,633 RYAN QUARLES, AND 61% DIDN'T 189 00:06:20,333 --> 00:06:21,966 RECOGNIZE STATE AUDITOR MIKE 190 00:06:21,633 --> 00:06:24,700 HARMON. 191 00:06:21,966 --> 00:06:26,666 YOU WOULD ASSUME PEOPLE WHO ARE 192 00:06:24,700 --> 00:06:28,766 RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR, WHO 193 00:06:26,666 --> 00:06:30,833 ALREADY HOLD A STATEWIDE OFFICE, 194 00:06:28,766 --> 00:06:32,566 HAVE SOME PRESUMPTION THAT THEY 195 00:06:30,833 --> 00:06:32,866 ARE WELL-KNOWN ACROSS THE 196 00:06:32,566 --> 00:06:35,066 STATE. 197 00:06:32,866 --> 00:06:36,066 >> Olivia: I MEAN, I WOULD 198 00:06:35,066 --> 00:06:39,133 HOPE SO US THAT THEY HAVE BEEN 199 00:06:36,066 --> 00:06:39,433 ELECTED, AND LIKE YOU SAID 200 00:06:39,133 --> 00:06:43,300 TWICE. 201 00:06:39,433 --> 00:06:44,633 IT IS QUITE PROBLEMATIC THAT 202 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:46,500 THEY HAVE BEEN ELECTED, AND 203 00:06:44,633 --> 00:06:48,133 PEOPLE STILL DON'T KNOW WHO THEY 204 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:51,733 ARE. 205 00:06:48,133 --> 00:06:53,266 SO DOES BEING AN LOOK AT THE 206 00:06:51,733 --> 00:06:54,700 OFFICIAL ELECTED OFFICIAL CARRY 207 00:06:53,266 --> 00:06:57,233 WEIGHT IN THAT SITUATION IN 208 00:06:54,700 --> 00:06:57,533 MAYBE NOT AS MUCH AS PEOPLE HAD 209 00:06:57,233 --> 00:06:58,300 HOPED. 210 00:06:57,533 --> 00:07:00,166 >> Bill: THIS IS MORE OR LESS 211 00:06:58,300 --> 00:07:01,333 A HORSE RACE POLL WHERE WE FIND 212 00:07:00,166 --> 00:07:02,200 OUT WHERE PEOPLE STAND. 213 00:07:01,333 --> 00:07:03,566 BUT IT IS EARLY. 214 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,433 THIS IS ONE OF THE VERY FEW 215 00:07:03,566 --> 00:07:05,533 POLLS WE'VE SEEN. 216 00:07:04,433 --> 00:07:06,700 WE KNOW THAT THE CAMPAIGNS ARE 217 00:07:05,533 --> 00:07:07,800 PROBABLY DOING THEIR OWN 218 00:07:06,700 --> 00:07:11,933 PRIVATELY POLLING. 219 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:13,600 THEY'RE LOOKING AT ISSUES AS BE, 220 00:07:11,933 --> 00:07:15,400 AS AUSTIN MENTIONED A MINUTE 221 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,400 AGO, IT MAY BE THAT THEY 222 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:20,000 IDENTIFIED MASKS AS AN ISSUE TO 223 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:22,100 JUMP ON, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU MAKE 224 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,300 THE POINT THAT IT'S VERY EARLY. 225 00:07:22,100 --> 00:07:24,800 >> Austin: YEAH, OF COURSE, IT 226 00:07:23,300 --> 00:07:27,766 IS EARLY, AND WE HAVE TALKED ON 227 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,966 THIS SHOW BEFORE, BILL, ABOUT 228 00:07:27,766 --> 00:07:31,500 THE LACK OF POLLING FROM 229 00:07:29,966 --> 00:07:33,166 TRADITIONAL SOURCES, SUCH AS 230 00:07:31,500 --> 00:07:35,000 NEWS MEDIA BECAUSE OF CHANGES 231 00:07:33,166 --> 00:07:37,400 THAT WE'VE SEEN, AND SO THERE'S 232 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,133 PROBABLY ALSO A RISK IN 233 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,766 OVERREADING THIS AT THIS EARLY 234 00:07:39,133 --> 00:07:42,100 STAGE BECAUSE WE'RE ALL LIKE, 235 00:07:40,766 --> 00:07:43,200 OH, WE GOT A POLL. 236 00:07:42,100 --> 00:07:44,366 IT'S A REAL POLL. 237 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,466 IT'S NOT A CAMPAIGN POLL. 238 00:07:44,366 --> 00:07:49,000 THIS IS ACTUALLY A REAL POLL, 239 00:07:46,466 --> 00:07:51,400 BUT IT IS ONLY ONE POLL, AND SO 240 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,500 IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE 241 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,466 MULTIPLE DATA POINTS TO 242 00:07:53,500 --> 00:07:56,666 INTERPRET, OBVIOUSLY, AND THEN 243 00:07:54,466 --> 00:07:58,733 THE SECOND THING I'D SAY IS, AS 244 00:07:56,666 --> 00:08:00,266 YOU AND I KNOW VERY WELL, LOCAL 245 00:07:58,733 --> 00:08:01,966 TELEVISION ADVERTISING IS VERY 246 00:08:00,266 --> 00:08:04,533 EFFECTIVE, AND SO WE WILL SEE IF 247 00:08:01,966 --> 00:08:06,300 KELLY CRAFT IS ABLE TO RISE 248 00:08:04,533 --> 00:08:16,633 FORWARD AS SHE CONTINUES TO 249 00:08:06,300 --> 00:08:16,633 SPEND REALLY BUT IF 250 00:12:03,466 --> 00:12:08,433 YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT 30 DAYS OUT 251 00:12:06,900 --> 00:12:11,066 THAT YOU'RE STILL TEN POINTS, 252 00:12:08,433 --> 00:12:13,566 FIVE POINTS, WHATEVER IT IS, 253 00:12:11,066 --> 00:12:15,466 BACK, THAT'S WHEN YOU START 254 00:12:13,566 --> 00:12:15,800 UNLEASHING SOME FIREPOWER ON 255 00:12:15,466 --> 00:12:17,100 CAMERON. 256 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,733 NOW, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? 257 00:12:17,100 --> 00:12:21,033 WE DON'T KNOW. 258 00:12:18,733 --> 00:12:22,800 THE BIG CONTROVERSY OF THE 259 00:12:21,033 --> 00:12:24,066 CAMERON ATTORNEY GENERALLER A 260 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,800 HAS BEEN BREONNA TAYLOR, AND 261 00:12:24,066 --> 00:12:33,033 IT'S A QUESTION MARK AS TO IF 262 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:34,500 YOU CAN SPIN THAT STORY IN A Y 263 00:12:33,033 --> 00:12:34,766 THAT MAKES REPUBLICANS NOT LIKE 264 00:12:34,500 --> 00:12:37,100 YOU. 265 00:12:34,766 --> 00:12:38,000 I THINK THAT'S AN OBVIOUS 266 00:12:37,100 --> 00:12:38,633 GENERAL ELECTION TOPIC. 267 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,166 I DON'T KNOW. 268 00:12:38,633 --> 00:12:43,100 I CAN SEE MAYBE AN AD WHERE YOU 269 00:12:41,166 --> 00:12:45,300 MENTION THAT THE FEDS HAD TO 270 00:12:43,100 --> 00:12:47,033 COME IN AND CLEAN CAMERON'S 271 00:12:45,300 --> 00:12:48,466 MESS-UP, QUOTE/UNQUOTE, WITHOUT 272 00:12:47,033 --> 00:12:50,266 I. EVEN SAYING HER NAME IN THE 273 00:12:48,466 --> 00:12:52,333 WAY THAT WE'VE HEARD PROTESTERS 274 00:12:50,266 --> 00:12:53,000 SAY OVER ANDOVER AGAIN, SAY HER 275 00:12:52,333 --> 00:12:55,400 NAME, BREONNA TAYLOR. 276 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,866 IT WILL BE REALLY INTERESTING TO 277 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,766 SEE IF THAT TACK IS TAKEN. 278 00:12:56,866 --> 00:13:00,166 I THINK IT WILL BE, AND WHAT IT 279 00:12:59,766 --> 00:13:01,733 LOOKS LIKE. 280 00:13:00,166 --> 00:13:05,500 >> Bill: EVENTUALLY, THE 281 00:13:01,733 --> 00:13:06,566 QUESTION IS A FIGHT AMONG 282 00:13:05,500 --> 00:13:08,066 SELVES, OLIVIA WORE DO THEY ALL 283 00:13:06,566 --> 00:13:10,300 TRY TO CONTINUE TO GO AFTER 284 00:13:08,066 --> 00:13:11,033 BESHEAR DURING THE COURSE OF THE 285 00:13:10,300 --> 00:13:11,633 PRIMARY CAMPAIGN? 286 00:13:11,033 --> 00:13:16,000 >> Olivia: RIGHT. 287 00:13:11,633 --> 00:13:17,066 I THINK HONESTLY THEY'RE NOT 288 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,700 GOING AFTER BESHEAR. 289 00:13:17,066 --> 00:13:20,466 THEY'RE NOT -- THEY'RE RUNNING 290 00:13:18,700 --> 00:13:21,866 AGAINST THEMSELVES. 291 00:13:20,466 --> 00:13:24,433 BESHEAR IS NOT THEIR OPPONENT 292 00:13:21,866 --> 00:13:26,633 RIGHT NOW, SO THEY MIGHT BE 293 00:13:24,433 --> 00:13:27,133 BETTER SUITED TO LIKE TAKE ONE 294 00:13:26,633 --> 00:13:28,266 STEP AT A TIME. 295 00:13:27,133 --> 00:13:30,000 >> Bill: ALL RIGHT. 296 00:13:28,266 --> 00:13:32,666 NOW, NEW NUMBERS ON PARTY 297 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,066 REGISTRATION ARE IN TODAY, AND 298 00:13:32,666 --> 00:13:36,700 INDEPENDENT VOTERS HAVE SUR PADS 299 00:13:34,066 --> 00:13:38,033 10% OF THE STATE'S ELECTORATE, 300 00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:39,466 AND KENTUCKY SECRETARY OF STATE 301 00:13:38,033 --> 00:13:41,833 MICHAEL ADAMS SAID THIS ABOUT 302 00:13:39,466 --> 00:13:43,733 THE GROWING NUMBER OF VOTERS OR 303 00:13:41,833 --> 00:13:45,666 CHECKING THE "OTHER" BOX. 304 00:13:43,733 --> 00:13:47,433 HE SAID THAT CANDIDATES FOR 305 00:13:45,666 --> 00:13:47,933 STATEWIDE OFFICE SHOULD TAKE 306 00:13:47,433 --> 00:13:50,466 NOTICE. 307 00:13:47,933 --> 00:13:51,800 TO WIN A GENERAL ELECTION, THEY 308 00:13:50,466 --> 00:13:53,866 MUST REACH OUT BEYOND THEY ARE 309 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,433 BASE AND COURT THE FASTEST 310 00:13:53,866 --> 00:13:55,833 GROWING BLOCK OF THE 311 00:13:55,433 --> 00:13:57,166 ELECTORATE. 312 00:13:55,833 --> 00:14:01,033 WHAT DOES IT SAY THAT VOTERS ARE 313 00:13:57,166 --> 00:14:02,966 STARTING TO REGISTER "OTHER"? 314 00:14:01,033 --> 00:14:04,833 >> Chris: I THINK PROBABLY 315 00:14:02,966 --> 00:14:06,033 JUST GENERAL DISINFECTION WITH 316 00:14:04,833 --> 00:14:08,266 POLITICS AND NOT FEELING LIKE 317 00:14:06,033 --> 00:14:09,200 YOU BELONG TO EITHER SIDE, AND 318 00:14:08,266 --> 00:14:10,833 THIS IS HAPPENING DESPITE THE 319 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,233 FACT ANOTHER THING WE'VE TALKED 320 00:14:10,833 --> 00:14:15,000 ABOUT BEFORE ON THIS SHOW THAT 321 00:14:13,233 --> 00:14:17,600 KENTUCKY HAS CLOSED PRIMARIES, 322 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,033 SO INDEPENDENTS DO GIVE THAT UP 323 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,666 BY BEING INDEPENDENT. 324 00:14:19,033 --> 00:14:22,066 AND I WOULD ADVENTURE WAS AS 325 00:14:20,666 --> 00:14:23,966 I'VE SAID HERE BEFORE, THAT I 326 00:14:22,066 --> 00:14:25,833 THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW 327 00:14:23,966 --> 00:14:27,333 THAT WHEN THEY FIRST REGISTER TO 328 00:14:25,833 --> 00:14:29,700 VOTE AND THEY JUST SEE 329 00:14:27,333 --> 00:14:31,100 THEMSELVES AS AN INDEPENDENT 330 00:14:29,700 --> 00:14:32,900 PERSON, AND THEN MAYBE IT TAKES 331 00:14:31,100 --> 00:14:35,166 A WHILE FOR THEM TO REALIZED 332 00:14:32,900 --> 00:14:36,366 THAT YOU CAN'T VOTE IN A PRIMARY 333 00:14:35,166 --> 00:14:36,866 IF YOU'RE AN INDEPENDENT AND 334 00:14:36,366 --> 00:14:39,000 THEN THEY SWITCH. 335 00:14:36,866 --> 00:14:40,233 THIS IS A GROWING SHARE OF THE 336 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,333 ELECTORATE, AND MAYBE THERE'S A 337 00:14:40,233 --> 00:14:43,033 LOT OF DEMOCRATS WHO WOULD HAVE 338 00:14:41,333 --> 00:14:44,533 BEEN DEMOCRATS WHO ARE NOW 339 00:14:43,033 --> 00:14:46,200 INDEPENDENTS BECAUSE DEMOCRATS 340 00:14:44,533 --> 00:14:49,133 HAVE BEEN FLATLINING IN THIS 341 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:51,133 STATE OR SHRINKING. 342 00:14:49,133 --> 00:14:51,900 >> Bill: WILL T. CREATES AN 343 00:14:51,133 --> 00:14:53,000 UNPREDICTABLE SWING VOTE, 344 00:14:51,900 --> 00:14:54,966 DOESN'T IT? 345 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,333 10% CAN CERTAINLY THROW AN 346 00:14:54,966 --> 00:14:55,900 ELECTION. 347 00:14:55,333 --> 00:14:58,400 >> Olivia: ABSOLUTELY. 348 00:14:55,900 --> 00:14:58,733 THAT'S A VERY SERIOUS AMOUNT OF 349 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,566 PEOPLE. 350 00:14:58,733 --> 00:15:02,700 >> Bill: AND THIS TREND AMONG 351 00:15:00,566 --> 00:15:04,900 YOUNG PEOPLE AND WHERE IT IS 352 00:15:02,700 --> 00:15:05,433 STRONGEST, AUSTIN, AVOIDING THE 353 00:15:04,900 --> 00:15:06,233 TRADITIONAL PARTIES. 354 00:15:05,433 --> 00:15:08,433 >> Austin: RIGHT. 355 00:15:06,233 --> 00:15:10,533 AND I THINK TO CHRIS' POINT, 356 00:15:08,433 --> 00:15:12,900 THERE MAY NOT BE A FULL 357 00:15:10,533 --> 00:15:14,566 REALIZATION OF KENTUCKY'S CLOSED 358 00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:16,000 PRIMARY SYSTEM, BUT I THINK 359 00:15:14,566 --> 00:15:19,400 ANOTHER WAY TO READ IT IS THAT 360 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:22,333 IT'S GOOD NEWS FOR ANDY BESHEAR, 361 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:24,300 RIGHT, THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE 362 00:15:22,333 --> 00:15:26,600 EXTREMELY STRONG SWING TO THE 363 00:15:24,300 --> 00:15:27,900 REPUBLICAN PARTY AS MUCH IN THIS 364 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,766 STATE AS YEARS PAST. 365 00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:33,033 IT'S STILL END TRENDING THAT WAY 366 00:15:30,766 --> 00:15:35,366 BUT YOU GOT TO FEEL BETTER ABOUT 367 00:15:33,033 --> 00:15:36,233 PEOPLE WHO ARE CHOOSING TO 368 00:15:35,366 --> 00:15:38,400 REGISTER AS INDEPENDENCE 369 00:15:36,233 --> 00:15:39,233 COMPARED TO PEOPLE WHO NEWLY 370 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,066 REGISTERED AS REPUBLICANS. 371 00:15:39,233 --> 00:15:40,533 >> Bill: IT'S GOING TO BE 372 00:15:40,066 --> 00:15:42,566 INTERESTING. 373 00:15:40,533 --> 00:15:44,000 THERE WAS A REAL TRAGEDY IN 374 00:15:42,566 --> 00:15:46,300 ELIZABETHTOWN LAST WEEK WHEN A 375 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,833 LARGE SIGN FELL DURING THE HIGH 376 00:15:46,300 --> 00:15:50,233 WINDS AT A DENNY'S RESTAURANT, 377 00:15:48,833 --> 00:15:51,166 AND TWO PEOPLE DIED AFTER THAT. 378 00:15:50,233 --> 00:15:53,233 THE INVESTIGATION INTO WHAT 379 00:15:51,166 --> 00:15:56,266 HAPPENED GOES ON, BUT THAT GOT 380 00:15:53,233 --> 00:15:56,933 REPORTERS ASKING A LOT OF 381 00:15:56,266 --> 00:15:57,966 QUESTIONS, LIKE WHO SPEIGHTS 382 00:15:56,933 --> 00:15:59,500 THESE SIGNS AND DIDN'T INSPECTS 383 00:15:57,966 --> 00:15:59,866 THESEY SIGNS AND WHAT ARE THE 384 00:15:59,500 --> 00:16:02,033 RULES. 385 00:15:59,866 --> 00:16:02,300 SO WHAT ARE THE FINDING, CHRIS? 386 00:16:02,033 --> 00:16:04,333 >>> 387 00:16:02,300 --> 00:16:07,533 >> Chris: WELL, TO BE HONEST, 388 00:16:04,333 --> 00:16:08,966 BILL, NOBODY INSPECTS THEM. 389 00:16:07,533 --> 00:16:11,700 WHAT WE FOUND IS THE WAY THIS 390 00:16:08,966 --> 00:16:13,233 WORKS IS SIMILAR TO THE WAY ANY 391 00:16:11,700 --> 00:16:15,100 OTHER NEW CONSTRUCTION IS 392 00:16:13,233 --> 00:16:16,766 PERMITTED AT THE LOCAL -- AND BY 393 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:19,300 THE WAY, THIS IS ALL AT THE 394 00:16:16,766 --> 00:16:20,733 LOCAL LEVEL, SO FIRST THING, THE 395 00:16:19,300 --> 00:16:22,133 STATE HOUSING DEPARTMENT TOLD 396 00:16:20,733 --> 00:16:22,500 US, WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH 397 00:16:22,133 --> 00:16:24,333 THIS. 398 00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:25,533 WE DON'T PERMIT SIGNS. 399 00:16:24,333 --> 00:16:27,600 THE STATE BUILDING CODE HAS 400 00:16:25,533 --> 00:16:29,333 NOTHING TO DO WITH SIGNS. 401 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,633 SO EVERYTHING IS AT THE LOCAL 402 00:16:29,333 --> 00:16:31,266 LEVEL. 403 00:16:29,633 --> 00:16:33,400 AND THAT'S THE CASE IN KENTUCKY, 404 00:16:31,266 --> 00:16:36,233 BUT IT'S ALSO PRETTY MUCH THE 405 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:38,300 CASE N. NATIONALLY. 406 00:16:36,233 --> 00:16:39,500 I TALKED WITH BELIEVE IT OR NOT 407 00:16:38,300 --> 00:16:40,366 THERE'S A TRADE ASSOCIATION FOR 408 00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:43,033 THE SIGN INDUSTRY, AND THE 409 00:16:40,366 --> 00:16:44,566 PERSON WHO RUNS THAT GROUP TOLD 410 00:16:43,033 --> 00:16:46,733 ME THAT THIS IS THE WAY IT WORKS 411 00:16:44,566 --> 00:16:48,066 PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE, THAT YOU 412 00:16:46,733 --> 00:16:49,600 REVIEW CONSTRUCTION PLANS, GET A 413 00:16:48,066 --> 00:16:51,466 BUILDING PERMIT, AND THEN AFTER 414 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,700 THAT IT'S UP TO THE PROPERTY 415 00:16:51,466 --> 00:16:54,233 OWNER TO MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTY 416 00:16:52,700 --> 00:16:55,300 JUST LIKE THEY HAVE TO KEEP THE 417 00:16:54,233 --> 00:16:56,733 ROOF IN WORKING ORDER, THEY HAVE 418 00:16:55,300 --> 00:16:58,700 TO MAKE SURE THE WINDOWS AREN'T 419 00:16:56,733 --> 00:17:01,800 BLOWN OUT, BUT THE ISSUE HERE IS 420 00:16:58,700 --> 00:17:07,100 THIS THING IS 80 FEET TALL AND 421 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:09,100 THE OBJECT THAT FELL WAS 422 00:17:07,100 --> 00:17:10,466 2600 POUNDS, AND UNFORTUNATELY 423 00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:12,666 THE ELDERLY WOMAN IN THE BACK 424 00:17:10,466 --> 00:17:13,533 SEAT OF THE VEHICLE WAS CRUSHED 425 00:17:12,666 --> 00:17:16,400 ON SITE. 426 00:17:13,533 --> 00:17:18,266 SO IT DID MAKE US SORT OF STAND 427 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,900 UP AND WONDER, WOW, YOU SEE 428 00:17:18,266 --> 00:17:21,766 THESE SIGNS EVERYWHERE, OFF OF 429 00:17:20,900 --> 00:17:23,633 EVERY INTERSTATE EXIT, AND 430 00:17:21,766 --> 00:17:25,500 THAT'S WOULD BE SURE THAT THAT 431 00:17:23,633 --> 00:17:27,166 ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN. 432 00:17:25,500 --> 00:17:28,166 BUT FROM THE PEOPLE THAT I 433 00:17:27,166 --> 00:17:29,200 TALKED TO FOR THE STORY, YOU 434 00:17:28,166 --> 00:17:32,466 KNOW, THEY MENTIONED THAT THIS 435 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,000 IS REALLY A FREAK THING, IT'S 436 00:17:32,466 --> 00:17:36,833 INCREDIBLY RARE, AND IT WOULD BE 437 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:39,700 VERY EXPENSIVE TO INSTITUTE 438 00:17:36,833 --> 00:17:42,200 SOMETHING TO DO ABOUT IT 439 00:17:39,700 --> 00:17:42,600 SYSTEMICALLY LIKE REGULAR 440 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,933 INSPECTIONS. 441 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,933 >> Bill: SOME OF THE FAMILY 442 00:17:43,933 --> 00:17:46,400 MEMBERS INDICATE THEY INTEND TO 443 00:17:44,933 --> 00:17:48,866 BE HEARD FROM AND THEY ARE GOING 444 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,833 TO BE TRYING TO GET THIS TO THE 445 00:17:48,866 --> 00:17:50,533 PUBLIC'S ATTENTION. 446 00:17:49,833 --> 00:17:54,266 >> Chris: YES. 447 00:17:50,533 --> 00:17:56,900 AND THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF THE 448 00:17:54,266 --> 00:17:57,233 VICTIMS IN THIS, SHE HAS BEEN 449 00:17:56,900 --> 00:17:59,733 TALKING. 450 00:17:57,233 --> 00:18:01,566 RIGHT NOW THE FOCUS HAS JUST 451 00:17:59,733 --> 00:18:03,433 BEEN ON HER GRANDPARENTS AND 452 00:18:01,566 --> 00:18:04,566 WHAT THEY MEANT TO HER. 453 00:18:03,433 --> 00:18:06,433 I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BE 454 00:18:04,566 --> 00:18:07,400 SURPRISED TO SEE LITIGATION 455 00:18:06,433 --> 00:18:09,400 RESULT FROM THIS. 456 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,866 >> Bill: OLIVIA, SOME STUDENT 457 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,200 WERE IN FRANKFORT THIS WEEK TO 458 00:18:10,866 --> 00:18:14,200 TALK WITH THE EDUCATION 459 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,266 COMMISSIONER AND SOME LAWMAKERS 460 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,266 ABOUT SCHOOL SAFETY, AND THEY 461 00:18:15,266 --> 00:18:18,800 HAVE THEIR OWN IDEAS ABOUT WHAT 462 00:18:17,266 --> 00:18:19,666 IS IMPORTANT. 463 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,800 >> Olivia: YEAH. 464 00:18:19,666 --> 00:18:23,533 SO THE COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATION 465 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,400 HAS A GROUP THAT'S A STUDENT 466 00:18:23,533 --> 00:18:27,233 ADVISORY COUNCIL. 467 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:29,233 IT'S ABOUT 30 KIDS. 468 00:18:27,233 --> 00:18:32,800 AND SHORTLY AFTER UVALDE OVER 469 00:18:29,233 --> 00:18:34,566 THE SUMMER, THEY STARTED WORKING 470 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:37,300 ON THIS SCHOOL SAFETY PROJECT. 471 00:18:34,566 --> 00:18:38,600 THEY STARTED RESEARCHING, 472 00:18:37,300 --> 00:18:40,900 THINKING ABOUT WHAT WOULD MAKE 473 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:43,433 THEM FEEL SAFER AS STUDENTS, THE 474 00:18:40,900 --> 00:18:44,066 PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE DIRECTLY 475 00:18:43,433 --> 00:18:45,833 IMPACTED SHOULD SOMETHING 476 00:18:44,066 --> 00:18:46,533 HAPPEN, AND THEY FINALLY SHARED 477 00:18:45,833 --> 00:18:48,333 SOME OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS 478 00:18:46,533 --> 00:18:52,366 WITH THE REST OF US. 479 00:18:48,333 --> 00:18:52,700 I WAS MORE SURPRISED BY WHAT WAS 480 00:18:52,366 --> 00:18:55,466 MISSING. 481 00:18:52,700 --> 00:19:05,600 YOU KNOW, WE SO OFTEN HEAR FROM 482 00:18:55,466 --> 00:19:05,600 ADULTS. 483 00:19:24,833 --> 00:19:27,500 HOUSE EDUCATION CHAIR WAS IN THE 484 00:19:26,466 --> 00:19:28,933 AUDIENCE AND HE WAS INTERESTED 485 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:30,500 IN WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY AND SAID 486 00:19:28,933 --> 00:19:32,400 HE WAS GOING TO FORWARD HIS 487 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:32,800 RECOMMENDATIONS ONTO HIS 488 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,533 COLLEAGUES. 489 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,833 >> Bill: THIS WAS NATIONAL 490 00:19:34,533 --> 00:19:39,366 SCHOOL CHOICE WEEK BUT A 491 00:19:37,833 --> 00:19:40,233 KENTUCKY BILL STOPPED EDUCATION 492 00:19:39,366 --> 00:19:41,500 OPPORTUNITY ACCOUNTS. 493 00:19:40,233 --> 00:19:43,400 THERE IS, THOUGH, POTENTIAL FOR 494 00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:43,700 MORE LEGISLATION ON THIS, 495 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,700 RIGHT? 496 00:19:43,700 --> 00:19:45,266 >> Olivia: THERE IS A 497 00:19:44,700 --> 00:19:48,100 POTENTIAL. 498 00:19:45,266 --> 00:19:48,366 HAVE I HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT? 499 00:19:48,100 --> 00:19:50,400 NO. 500 00:19:48,366 --> 00:19:52,833 I THINK IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO 501 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:55,233 PASS THAT EDUCATION OPPORTUNITY 502 00:19:52,833 --> 00:19:57,600 ACCOUNT BILL AS-IS. 503 00:19:55,233 --> 00:20:01,233 THE SAME GOES FOR THE CHARTER 504 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:02,666 SCHOOL BILL THAT FOLLOWED. 505 00:20:01,233 --> 00:20:06,066 AND SO SINCE ONE WAS STRUCK 506 00:20:02,666 --> 00:20:06,933 DOWN, ONE'S STILL HELD UP IN THE 507 00:20:06,066 --> 00:20:08,800 COURTS, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING 508 00:20:06,933 --> 00:20:09,100 IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON THAT 509 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,533 FRONT. 510 00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:12,633 >> Bill: CHRIS, ONE THING HA 511 00:20:11,533 --> 00:20:14,166 WE'RE WATCHING THE LEGISLATURE 512 00:20:12,633 --> 00:20:15,266 POTENTIALLY IS HOW KENTUCKY WILL 513 00:20:14,166 --> 00:20:16,066 ADDRESS THESE GRAY MACHINES AS 514 00:20:15,266 --> 00:20:19,966 THEY'RE CALLED, WHICH I 515 00:20:16,066 --> 00:20:20,266 UNDERSTAND YOU GOT TO DEMO ONE, 516 00:20:19,966 --> 00:20:21,066 RIGHT? 517 00:20:20,266 --> 00:20:23,133 >> Chris: WE'RE RUNNING THE 518 00:20:21,066 --> 00:20:24,666 STORY NEXT WEEK BUT WE ACTUALLY 519 00:20:23,133 --> 00:20:25,466 WANTED TO GO AND SEE WHAT ARE 520 00:20:24,666 --> 00:20:27,633 THESE MACHINES. 521 00:20:25,466 --> 00:20:29,100 WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THEM. 522 00:20:27,633 --> 00:20:30,566 OLIVIA'S COLLEAGUES JOE SONKA 523 00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:31,500 DID A NICE OVERVIEW OF THIS 524 00:20:30,566 --> 00:20:33,866 ISSUE IN DECEMBER. 525 00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:34,900 THESE TWO SIDES ARE REALLY 526 00:20:33,866 --> 00:20:36,500 GEARING UP TO SPEND A LOT OF 527 00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:37,933 MONEY ON ADVERTISING AND 528 00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:39,233 LOBBYING, AND IN FACT YOU'RE ALL 529 00:20:37,933 --> 00:20:41,766 RIGHT SEEING THE ADS. 530 00:20:39,233 --> 00:20:43,400 SO WHAT ARE THESE? 531 00:20:41,766 --> 00:20:46,733 THESE ARE GAMING MACHINES THAT 532 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:50,400 SIT INSIDE OF BARS AND 533 00:20:46,733 --> 00:20:51,466 RESTAURANTS, AND THE 534 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,033 ESTABLISHMENTS AND THE MAKERS OF 535 00:20:51,466 --> 00:20:55,533 THE MACHINES SAY THAT THEY ARE 536 00:20:54,033 --> 00:20:56,966 GAMES OF SKILL, AND HOW THEY 537 00:20:55,533 --> 00:21:01,666 ACTUALLY WORK IS, FOR EXAMPLE, 538 00:20:56,966 --> 00:21:04,933 YOU'LL HAVE LIKE A 9-SPOT GRID, 539 00:21:01,666 --> 00:21:07,100 KIND OF LOOKS LIKE SLOTS, IT'S 540 00:21:04,933 --> 00:21:08,833 SORT OF, AND THEN STOPS, AND THE 541 00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:10,033 SKILL IS YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE 542 00:21:08,833 --> 00:21:12,200 WHERE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO 543 00:21:10,033 --> 00:21:13,833 GET THREE IN A ROW, AND 544 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,266 SOMETIMES IT EVEN WIGGLES AS ONE 545 00:21:13,833 --> 00:21:17,233 OF PEOPLE WHO WAS PLAYING IT 546 00:21:15,266 --> 00:21:21,166 TOLD ME, TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE 547 00:21:17,233 --> 00:21:22,866 TO PICK, BUT IT'S TIMED, AND THE 548 00:21:21,166 --> 00:21:25,133 HORSE RACING INDUSTRY, OF 549 00:21:22,866 --> 00:21:25,433 COURSE, IS ADAMANTLY AGAINST 550 00:21:25,133 --> 00:21:26,833 THIS. 551 00:21:25,433 --> 00:21:28,833 THEY OPERATE HISTORICAL RACING 552 00:21:26,833 --> 00:21:29,933 MACHINES, WHICH ARE THE 553 00:21:28,833 --> 00:21:32,133 SLOT-LIKE GAMING THAT THE 554 00:21:29,933 --> 00:21:33,200 LEGISLATURE HAD TO LEGALIZE A 555 00:21:32,133 --> 00:21:36,266 COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND THEY 556 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:38,400 WANT TO SEE THESE GAMES -- THEY 557 00:21:36,266 --> 00:21:41,333 SAY THIS IS ILLEGAL GAMBLING 558 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:43,700 FLAT OUT, AND SO WHETHER THE 559 00:21:41,333 --> 00:21:46,166 LEGISLATURE BANS THEM, REGULATES 560 00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:46,666 THEM OR DOES NOTHING, THOSE ARE 561 00:21:46,166 --> 00:21:47,766 THE OPTIONS. 562 00:21:46,666 --> 00:21:48,066 >> Bill: SO WE'LL SEE ON 563 00:21:47,766 --> 00:21:49,600 THAT. 564 00:21:48,066 --> 00:21:50,400 ALL RIGHT. 565 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,700 KENTUCKY TRANSPORTATION 566 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,000 SECRETARY JIM GRAY TOLD ME NOON 567 00:21:51,700 --> 00:21:56,300 INTERVIEW THIS WEEK THAT HE HAS 568 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,133 SOME REAL CONCERNS ABOUT FUNDING 569 00:21:56,300 --> 00:21:59,566 HIGHWAY MAINTAINS AND EVEN LOCAL 570 00:21:58,133 --> 00:22:00,000 STREETS AND ROADS IN THE 571 00:21:59,566 --> 00:22:01,966 FUTURE. 572 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,100 RIGHT NOW IT'S THE GAS TAX THAT 573 00:22:01,966 --> 00:22:05,966 FUNDS THOSE EFFORT, BUT AS WE 574 00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:06,700 ALL KNOW, THE PUSH IS ON FOR 575 00:22:05,966 --> 00:22:09,633 ELECTRIC VEHICLES. 576 00:22:06,700 --> 00:22:11,133 >> EVERYONE IN PUBLIC SERVICE IN 577 00:22:09,633 --> 00:22:12,900 KENTUCKY, IN PUBLIC OFFICE NEEDS 578 00:22:11,133 --> 00:22:15,666 TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT BECAUSE 579 00:22:12,900 --> 00:22:18,033 THE GASOLINE TAX FUELS THE 580 00:22:15,666 --> 00:22:20,033 REVENUE SHARING THAT GOES TO OUR 581 00:22:18,033 --> 00:22:22,633 COUNTIES AND OUR CITIES AND OUR 582 00:22:20,033 --> 00:22:24,566 COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE 583 00:22:22,633 --> 00:22:25,933 STATE, AND THIS GENERATES 584 00:22:24,566 --> 00:22:29,366 SOMEWHERE IN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE 585 00:22:25,933 --> 00:22:32,300 OF AROUND $800 MILLION A YEAR. 586 00:22:29,366 --> 00:22:34,066 >> Bill: SO IT'S AN 587 00:22:32,300 --> 00:22:34,600 800 MILLION-DOLLAR QUESTION 588 00:22:34,066 --> 00:22:36,133 GOING FORWARD. 589 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,000 >> Chris: THAT'S WHAT THE GAS 590 00:22:36,133 --> 00:22:38,633 TAX GENERATES. 591 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,733 THE SHARE OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES 592 00:22:38,633 --> 00:22:42,900 IN THE STATE, LET'S BE CLEAR, IS 593 00:22:40,733 --> 00:22:45,633 STILL REALLY SMALL. 594 00:22:42,900 --> 00:22:47,266 NOT ARGUING WITH THE SECRETARY, 595 00:22:45,633 --> 00:22:48,833 I'M SURE THIS WILL BE AN ISSUE 596 00:22:47,266 --> 00:22:51,033 THAT THE STATE WILL HAVE TO DEAL 597 00:22:48,833 --> 00:22:53,633 WITH, BUT I THINK THE OTHER 598 00:22:51,033 --> 00:22:55,400 QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN RAYED 599 00:22:53,633 --> 00:22:56,666 BEFORE AND I HAVEN'T HEARD 600 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,300 ENOUGH ABOUT IT LATELY IS 601 00:22:56,666 --> 00:22:59,133 WHETHER THE GAS TAX SHOULD BE 602 00:22:58,300 --> 00:23:01,433 RAISED, AND AS YOU KNOW VEHICLES 603 00:22:59,133 --> 00:23:03,066 ARE GETTING MORE FUEL EFFICIENT 604 00:23:01,433 --> 00:23:05,000 AND WE'RE SEEING TOYOTA DO A TON 605 00:23:03,066 --> 00:23:07,400 WITH HYBRIDS, SO ELECTRIFICATION 606 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,066 IS CAUSING PEOPLE TO USE LESS 607 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,400 FUEL, SO IT'S NOT AS JUST 608 00:23:09,066 --> 00:23:13,100 ELECTRIC VEHICLES. 609 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,900 BUT THEY ARE A TINY SLICE OF THE 610 00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:17,066 AMOUNT OF VEHICLES IN THE STATE, 611 00:23:14,900 --> 00:23:17,933 AS WELL AS NATIONALLY, ONLY 5% 612 00:23:17,066 --> 00:23:18,866 OF NEW CAR SALES. 613 00:23:17,933 --> 00:23:20,233 >> Bill: ANOTHER THIS POINT. 614 00:23:18,866 --> 00:23:23,366 I THINK GRAY IS TRYING TO LOOK 615 00:23:20,233 --> 00:23:23,700 FORWARD ON THIS AND RAISE SOME 616 00:23:23,366 --> 00:23:24,766 ALARMS. 617 00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:25,833 TRADER JOE'S IN ST. MATTHEWS 618 00:23:24,766 --> 00:23:27,433 HELD A UNION VOTE. 619 00:23:25,833 --> 00:23:28,533 >> Chris: RIGHT. 620 00:23:27,433 --> 00:23:28,866 THE THIRD TRADER JOE'S IN THE 621 00:23:28,533 --> 00:23:31,566 COUNTRY. 622 00:23:28,866 --> 00:23:32,500 IN LOUISVILLE, THEY ARE 623 00:23:31,566 --> 00:23:34,666 UNITIZING. 624 00:23:32,500 --> 00:23:36,000 IT'S PART OF THE BROADER SERVICE 625 00:23:34,666 --> 00:23:37,233 SECTOR PUSH WE HAVE SEEN 626 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,600 RECENTLY TO UNIONIZE. 627 00:23:37,233 --> 00:23:39,966 COFFEE SHOPS, BOOKSTORES, PLACES 628 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,366 LIKE THAT. 629 00:23:39,966 --> 00:23:43,566 >> Bill: OLIVIA, THE SPECIAL 630 00:23:41,366 --> 00:23:45,100 ELECTION TO REPLACE NOW 631 00:23:43,566 --> 00:23:46,300 DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN MORGAN 632 00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:49,666 McGARVEY IN THE STATE SENATE 633 00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:50,966 IS NOW APPARENTLY SET AFTER 634 00:23:49,666 --> 00:23:52,633 CONCERNS ABOUT POLLING AND A 635 00:23:50,966 --> 00:23:52,900 COUPLE OF CANDIDATES ARE FACING 636 00:23:52,633 --> 00:23:53,600 OFF. 637 00:23:52,900 --> 00:23:55,600 >> Olivia: RIGHT. 638 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,133 SO THERE IS INITIALLY THE GAME 639 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,500 PLAN WAS TO HAVE FOUR POLLING 640 00:23:58,133 --> 00:24:00,966 LOCATIONS. 641 00:23:58,500 --> 00:24:01,733 THAT GOT SHOT DOWN BECAUSE IT 642 00:24:00,966 --> 00:24:04,466 JUST WASN'T ENOUGH. 643 00:24:01,733 --> 00:24:07,766 THEY BROUGHT IN MARTIO POLIO, 644 00:24:04,466 --> 00:24:08,066 SORTED OUT SOME THINGS WITH 645 00:24:07,766 --> 00:24:09,033 JCPS. 646 00:24:08,066 --> 00:24:10,466 NOW THEY HAVE EIGHT SCHOOLS THAT 647 00:24:09,033 --> 00:24:11,033 ARE GOING TO BE OPEN FOR A TOTAL 648 00:24:10,466 --> 00:24:12,033 OF 12. 649 00:24:11,033 --> 00:24:15,100 THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S GOING TO 650 00:24:12,033 --> 00:24:15,433 BE WORKABLE AND THAT'S GOING TO 651 00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:17,533 HAPPEN. 652 00:24:15,433 --> 00:24:19,266 WE HAVE DEMOCRAT CASEY CHAMBERS 653 00:24:17,533 --> 00:24:20,300 ARMSTRONG WHO IS A COUNCILWOMAN 654 00:24:19,266 --> 00:24:22,233 IN LOUISVILLE, AND SHE'S GOING 655 00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:23,866 TO BE FACING OFF AGAINST 656 00:24:22,233 --> 00:24:27,600 REPUBLICAN MISTY GLENN WHO IS 657 00:24:23,866 --> 00:24:28,900 BEST KNOWN FOR RUNNING FOR 658 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,200 JPSCAL SCHOOL BOARD OVER THE 659 00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:34,433 FALL. 660 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:34,733 THAT AREA IS SOLIDLY DEMOCRATIC. 661 00:24:34,433 --> 00:24:36,366 BUT -- 662 00:24:34,733 --> 00:24:38,566 >> Chris: I THINK PROBABLY 663 00:24:36,366 --> 00:24:38,866 CASSIE CHAMBERS AS THE ADVANTAGE 664 00:24:38,566 --> 00:24:40,700 THERE. 665 00:24:38,866 --> 00:24:41,300 SHE'S WELL-KNOWN. 666 00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:42,933 SHE'S ALREADY ELECTED. 667 00:24:41,300 --> 00:24:44,566 SO THAT ONE SEEMS LIKE A SAFE 668 00:24:42,933 --> 00:24:45,600 BET FOR HER. 669 00:24:44,566 --> 00:24:47,900 >> Bill: ANOTHER SPECIAL LEEKS 670 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,566 THAT WILL COME LATER IN THE 671 00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:50,933 YEAR, SPECIAL ELECTION. 672 00:24:48,566 --> 00:24:51,833 >> Austin: TO REPLACE 673 00:24:50,933 --> 00:24:53,466 SENATOR RALPH ALVARADO WHO IS 674 00:24:51,833 --> 00:24:55,000 LEAVING FOR TENNESSEE 675 00:24:53,466 --> 00:24:57,000 ADMINISTRATIVE POST. 676 00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:00,433 IT'S A PRETTY RED DISTRICT, AND 677 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:02,366 THE LIKELIHOOD OF IT GETTING RED 678 00:25:00,433 --> 00:25:05,200 AGAIN WENT UP A LITTLE BIT WHEN 679 00:25:02,366 --> 00:25:06,533 THEY SCHEDULED THE PRIMARY OR 680 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,833 THIS ELECTION ON THE SAME DAY AS 681 00:25:06,533 --> 00:25:10,600 THE PRIMARY, AND REPUBLICANS 682 00:25:07,833 --> 00:25:12,233 HAVE A LOT MORE INCENTIVE TO 683 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,000 TURN OUT TO BIC THEIR 684 00:25:12,233 --> 00:25:14,166 GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE. 685 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,800 >> Bill: WE TALK A LOT ABOUT 686 00:25:14,166 --> 00:25:18,033 THE NEW PROM SENSE OF 687 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,166 CONGRESSMAN JAMES COMER, AND YOU 688 00:25:18,033 --> 00:25:20,666 DID AN ARTICLE AND STARTED IT 689 00:25:19,166 --> 00:25:23,300 OFF WITH THE FACT THAT THERE'S A 690 00:25:20,666 --> 00:25:23,833 PHOTO OF MITCH McCONNELL IN 691 00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:24,600 COMER'S OFFICE. 692 00:25:23,833 --> 00:25:28,000 >> Austin: THERE IS. 693 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,366 IT'S OF MITCH McCONNELL AND A 694 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,266 COLLEGE-AGED JAMES COMER. 695 00:25:29,366 --> 00:25:33,866 THAT'S WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT OF 696 00:25:31,266 --> 00:25:35,500 THE FFA IN KENTUCKY, THE FUTURE 697 00:25:33,866 --> 00:25:37,500 FARMERS OF AMERICA. 698 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:39,600 AND McCONNELL WROTE A LITTLE 699 00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:40,933 MESSAGE SAYING HE HOPES HE HAS A 700 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,300 BRIGHT FUTURE, AND I GOT TO SIT 701 00:25:40,933 --> 00:25:44,300 DOWN WITH McCONNELL LATER. 702 00:25:42,300 --> 00:25:47,000 AND HE SAID THAT VERY MUCH CAME 703 00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:48,766 TRUE WITH COMER WHO IS NOW RISEN 704 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,466 WHO CRAZY NATIONAL PROMINENCE. 705 00:25:48,766 --> 00:25:52,000 HE'S ONE OF THE TAUPE PROBABLY 706 00:25:50,466 --> 00:25:54,033 THREE OR FOUR REPUBLICANS WE 707 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,400 HEAR FROM WITH HIS OVERSIGHT 708 00:25:54,033 --> 00:25:55,466 COMMITTEE. 709 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,066 SO THERE ARE LOTS OF QUESTIONS 710 00:25:55,466 --> 00:25:58,466 ABOUT WHAT HIS FUTURE MIGHT LOOK 711 00:25:58,066 --> 00:25:59,800 LIKE. 712 00:25:58,466 --> 00:26:00,600 COULD HE GO FOR GOVERNOR AGAIN 713 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,000 IN THE FUTURE? 714 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,366 COULD HE RUN FOR SENATE IN 715 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,866 2026? 716 00:26:03,366 --> 00:26:06,733 OR COULD HE JUST RISE THROUGH 717 00:26:04,866 --> 00:26:08,133 THE RANKS AND MAYBE BECOME HOUSE 718 00:26:06,733 --> 00:26:10,566 LEADER AT SOME POINT? 719 00:26:08,133 --> 00:26:11,433 >> Bill: 99 DAYS TELL THE 720 00:26:10,566 --> 00:26:15,600 KENTUCKY DERBY, AND THEY ARE 721 00:26:11,433 --> 00:26:16,500 WORKING HARD TO GET SOME MAJOR 722 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,866 RENOVATIONS PARTIALLY 723 00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:17,566 COMPLETED. 724 00:26:16,866 --> 00:26:19,000 THEY WILL BE TOTALLY COMPLETED 725 00:26:17,566 --> 00:26:20,833 NEXT YEAR. 726 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,700 THIS WEEK MARKS SIX MONTHS SINCE 727 00:26:20,833 --> 00:26:23,266 THE FLOODING IN EASTERN 728 00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:25,100 KENTUCKY. 729 00:26:23,266 --> 00:26:25,866 THE HISTORIC FLOODS TOOK 44 730 00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:26,166 LIVES, DESTROYED HUNDREDS 731 00:26:25,866 --> 00:26:27,400 HOMES. 732 00:26:26,166 --> 00:26:29,466 THE RECOVERY, OF COURSE, IS FAR 733 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,700 FROM OVER BUT KENTUCKIANS HAVE 734 00:26:29,466 --> 00:26:31,900 SHOWN THEIR RESILIENCE AND 735 00:26:30,700 --> 00:26:33,366 COMPASSION AFTER CHALLENGES LIKE 736 00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:34,333 IN IN REASON YEARS. 737 00:26:33,366 --> 00:26:35,066 THAT'S "COMMENT ON KENTUCKY." 738 00:26:34,333 --> 00:26:36,266 THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. 739 00:26:35,066 --> 00:26:36,266 HAVE A GOOD WEEK AHEAD