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THE COVID-19 DELTA VARIANT. EVEN

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BEFORE REDISTRICTING, A PRIMARY

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IS TAKING SHAPE FOR THE THE ONLY

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CONGRESSIONAL SEAT IN KENTUCKY

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HELD BY A DEMOCRAT. CRITICAL

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RACE THEORY IS DISCUSSED IN A S

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HEARING AS LAWMAKERS PREPARE FO

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THE 2022 LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

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THE NUMBERS ARE IN. KENTUCKY HAS

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A RECORD SURPLUS OF OVER $1 BIL

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HEADING INTO A STEAMY, MAYBE

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STORMY JULY WEEKEND, "COMMENT"

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IS NEXT ON KET. GOOD EVENING.

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GOOD EVENING. I'M BILL BRYANT.

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AND WE WELCOME YOU TO "COMMENT

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ON KENTUCKY," A LOOK BACK AT TH

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AND SOME ANALYSIS OF THE WEEK'S

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NEWS IN THE COMMONWEALTH. AND

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THE GUESTS ON OUR PANEL OF

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WORKING KENTUCKY JOURNALISTS

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TONIGHT ARE: JESS CLARK,

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EDUCATION REPORTER FOR WFPL IN

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DANIEL DESROSIERS, POLITICAL

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REPORTER FOR THE LEXINGTON HERA

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AND LAWRENCE SMITH, REPORTER FO

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WDRB IN LOUISVILLE. ALSO

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TONIGHT, KENTUCKY STATE POLICE

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IS CREATING A TEAM TO

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INVESTIGATE SEX CRIMES, AND

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REMEMBERING STATE SENATOR TOM

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BUFORD WHO DIED THIS WEEK AFTER

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MORE THAN 30 YEARS OF SERVICE I

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BUT FIRST SOME RENEWED CONCERN

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PRESIDENT ABOUT THE COVID-19 AND

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DAN, WOODFORD COUNTY HAS THE

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HIGHEST VACCINATION RATE IN THE

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STILL, MOST OF THOSE WHO HAD

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>> Daniel: THIS IS STILL

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IF YOU FETE THE VACCINE YOU'RE

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LARGELY PROTECTED.

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BUT WE ARE SEEING CASES RISE,

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AND SO FOR THE PAST TWO WEEKS

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THIS WEEK WE'RE GOING TIGHT

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AGAIN, CASES ARE GOING BACK UP,

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AND THAT'S A CONCERNING THING

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BRAS THERE ARE STILL LIGHT OF

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WE ARE HOVERING JUST A LITTLE

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IT'S 49.8 PERS OF KENTUCKIANS

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THERE'S STILL A PUSH TO GET

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MITCH McCONNELL HAS BEEN

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ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN

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TELLING PEOPLE TO GET THE

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VACCINE FOR MONTHS AND IT HASN'T

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>> Bill: SOME HEALTH OFFICIALS

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THE POINT THERE ARE SOME

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RECOMMENDATIONS MASK CAN AGAIN.

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>> Lawrence: THERE HAVE BEEN

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THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE

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BUT THEY ARE CONCERNED THAT

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LOWER, AND THEY'RE SAYING PEOPLE

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SHOULD MATTER MASKS IF YOU DON'T

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SOME OF THE SAME RULES THEY HAD

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THAT HOSPITALS WOULD BE OVERRUN,

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AND SO NOW THE QUESTION WEEKS,

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BEL IF IT'S AN AREA WHERE A LOT

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OF PEOPLE ARE VACCINATED, ARE

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RESOURCES IN A WAY WHERE WE

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MIGHT BE ABLE TO AVOID THAT?

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AND SO I EPP I THINK THE PUBLIC

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THERE IS STILL THE KAREN VARIANT

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THAT THE VACCINE MIGHT NOT BE

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>> Bill: AND GENERALLY SO FAR

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WHEN THERE HAVE BEEN

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BREAKTHROUGH CASES, PEOPLE HAVE

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>> Daniel: YEAH, IT'S BEEN

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MORE LIKE KIND OF WHAT PEOPLE

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A COLD OR A FLU.

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>> Bill: SO, JESS, AS SCHOOLS

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PREPARE FOR THE NEW YEAR AHEAD

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FROM THE CDC -- IN FACT THAT

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CAME DOWN ON FRIDAY ABOUT MASKS

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IN SCHOOLS -- WHAT ARE THEY

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PLANNING TO DO?

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>> Jess: SO IN THE FALL THE

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CDC IS NOW RECOMMENDING THAT

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PEOPLE WHO ARE VACCINATED WILL

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NOT HAVE TO WEAR MASKS IN SCHOOL

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BUILDINGS, SO IF YOU HAVE THE

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TO SCHOOL, YOU LIKELY WILL NOT

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>> Bill: SO YOUNGER CHILDREN

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>> Jess: YES, BECAUSE CHILDREN

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>> Bill: BUT THAT WILL STABLE

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SO DISTRICTS COULD FOLLOW THAT

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IT'S REALLY UP TO EACH

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>> Bill: SO IT IS AN INCENTIVE

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>> Jess: YEAH,.

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OF THEM WOULD BE ELIGIBLE, SOME

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>> Bill: STATE HEALTH

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TO ZERO IN ON GETTING ELIGIBLE

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KIDS ARE IS THAT RIGHTING TO

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TO START GETTING VACCINATED NOW

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SO THAT BY THE TIME SCHOOL ROLLS

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AROUND AND KIDS ARE REALLY IN

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THOSE CONGREGATE INVESTIGATES

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THEY'RE VACCINATED, AND HEY, IF

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BACK IN SCHOOL AND YOU MIGHT NOT

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>> Bill: WE HOPE THAT WE DON'T

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HAVE TO START ANOTHER PROGRAM

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DISCUSSING THAT BUT NOW THE

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DELTA VARIANT FORCE THAT HAD.

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E. NOW, WE GOT WORD THIS

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AFTERNOON THAT KENTUCKY'S

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GENERAL FUND RECEIPTS JUMPED

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ALMOST 11% IN THE FISCAL YEAR

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THAT JUST ENDED.

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THERE IS A RECORD $1.1 BILLION

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SURPLUS.

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GOVERNOR BESHEAR HAD THIS TO SAY

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THIS AFTERNOON.

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>> THE LARGEST GROWTH IN OUR

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GENERAL FUND IN 26 YEARS, HUGE

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GROWTH IN WHAT'S COMING IN FROM

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BUSINESSES, MEANING THEY ARE OUT

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THERE AND REVENUE IS COMING IN

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TO THEM.

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FOLKS, IN ECONOMY THIS ECONOMY

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IS ON FIRE.

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>> Bill: ON FIRE, THAT'S A

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STRONG TERM, LAWRENCE.

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>> Lawrence: WELL, THAT'S A

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GOOD SIGN FOR HIM, BUT AS FAR AS

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WHAT TO DO WITH THIS MONEY, IT

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GOES INTO THE BUDGET RESERVE

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TRUST FUND.

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THE RAINY DAY FUND AND AM, AND

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THEN NEXT YEAR LAWMAKERS WILL

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DECIDE WHAT IF ANYTHING TO DO

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WITH IT.

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IT'S UNUSUAL THAT THEY HAVE SO

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MUCH MONEY TO WORK WITH.

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USUALLY THEY'RE HAVING TO CUT

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THE BUDGET BUT NEXT YEAR THEY'LL

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HAVE A SURPLUS OF MONEY TO

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DECIDE IF AND HOW TO USE IT.

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>> Bill: THERE'S A RUSH TO

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TAKE CREDIT FOR GOOD NEWS,

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RIGHT?

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"A.

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>> Daniel: EVERYBODY WANTS TO

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TAKE CREDIT.

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>> Bill: THE LEGISLATURE AS

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WELL, THEY'RE MANAGING THINGS

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WELL.

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>> Daniel: THEIR POLICIES ARE

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THE REASON.

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AND IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE,

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RIGHT?

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BECAUSE YOU HAD THIS NARRATIVE A

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FEW WEEKS AGO OF, OH, MY GOSH,

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THE ECONOMY, IT'S OVERINFLATED,

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YADA, YADA, YADA, AND NOW LOOK

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IT'S ROARING, IT'S ON FIRE.

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THING THAT I THINK IS

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INTERESTING ABOUT THIS AS

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LAWRENCE WAS TALKING ABOUT IS

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HOW THEY'RE ALLOCATING THE

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MONEY, AND THAT EVERY BEEN DOING

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VERY CAUTIOUS BUDGETS FOR THE

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PAST TO II YEARS BECAUSE THERE'S

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SO MUCH UNPREDICTABILITY BECAUSE

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OF COVID IT.

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WILL BE INTERESTING WHEN THE

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FEDERAL MONEY WAS INJECTED

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TOWARD THE END OF THE LAST

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LEGISLATIVE SESSION THERE WERE

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THESE GRAND SPEECHES ABOUT A

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SPRIGGS FOR KENTUCKY AND HOW WE

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MOVE KENTUCKY FORWARD AND HOW TO

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INVEST THAT MONEY SO THAT

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KENTUCKY CAN REALLY CAPITALIZE

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ON IT FROM PRESIDENT -- THE

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SENATE PRESIDENT ROBERT STIVERS

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AND FROM MORGAN McGARVEY, FROM

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DAVID OSBORNE PALM THESE PEOPLE

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HAVE THESE GRAND IDEAS.

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IT WILL BE INTERESTING NOW,

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THEY'VE GOT TO MONEY, HOW TO HOW

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THEY ARE GOING TO TURN THAT INTO

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A REALITY AND TURN IT INTO THESE

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LOVE IT PROMISES.

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>> Bill: THE BUDGET WAS CUT

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FOR MORE THAN A DECADE.

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>> Daniel: LEXINGTON

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SENATOR REGGIE THOMAS LOVES TO

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TALK ABOUT THAT, AND THAT WAS A

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BIG, AND YOU I THINK PEOPLE SEE

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NORTH CAROLINA, THEY SEE WHAT

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HAPPENED IN THE KIND OF TRIANGLE

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RESEARCH REGION AND THEY LOOK IT

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AWAY LITTLE BIT OF GREEDY EYES.

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THEY SEE THAT AS SOMETHING THAT

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MAY BE POSSIBLE HERE.

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>> Bill: HOW MUCH OF A CONCERN

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THAT FEDERAL MONEY IS PROPPING

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THINGS UP, LAWRENCE?

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THAT IT'S ARTIFICIAL.

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>> Lawrence: AS DANIEL SAID,

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THEY'RE BEING VERY CAUTIOUS WHEN

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THEY PASSED THESE BUDGETS IN THE

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LAST, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY

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SAID IS THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE

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THAT THEY DON'T USE FEDERAL

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MONEY FOR CONTINUING EXPENSES,

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SO THAT'S THE ISSUE.

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THEY HAD THIS MONEY FROM THE

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FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT THEY'RE

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NOT GOING TO ALWAYS HAVE THAT,

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SO HOW BEST TO USE THAT SO IT

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DOESN'T BECOME A PERMANENT DRAIN

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ON STATE FUNDS.

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>> Daniel: AND THE AREA WHERE

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THEY AGREED WITH A GOOD EXAMPLE

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OF THAT, RIGHT?

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SO THEY PUT THE MONEY INTO

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BROADBAND STRUCTURE AND FIXING

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OUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE

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STATE, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT

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BECAUSE IT ALSO FREES UP MONEY

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FROM THE BUDGET THAT THEY MIGHT

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NEED FOR OTHER THINGS.

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YOU HAD ALL THIS FEDERAL MONEY,

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YOU WERE ABLE TO DO THAT AND

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THAT FREES UP A POT OF GOLD THEY

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CAN USE FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

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EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT USING IT

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FOR EXPENSES IT'S HAVE IT HELPS

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THEM IN -- THE OLD POLITICAL

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ARGUMENT WAS, HOW ARE YOU GOING

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TO GET MORE MONEY?

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ARE YOU RAISE MORE TAXES OR ARE

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YOU GOING TO CUT THINGS?

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HERE'S THIS MONEY FLOATING

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AROUND.

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YOU CAN USE THAT.

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>> Bill: IT WAS PUT AWAY, AS

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YOU SAID, IN THIS TRUST OR --

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THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RETURN IT.

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IT'S THE TAXPAYERS.

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>> Lawrence: I HAVE NOT HEARD

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THAT AT ALL.

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>> Bill: THAT HAS NOT COME UP

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YET.

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SHOCKING.

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SO WE TALK ABOUT THE FEDERAL

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MONEY AND SENATOR McCONNELL

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HAS BEEN TRAVELING THE STATE

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LATELY TALKING ABOUT THE

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AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT THIS HE

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VOTED AGAINST.

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McCONNELL SAID IT WAS TOO

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BROAD AND TOO EXPENSIVE.

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HE ACKNOWLEDGES, THOUGH, THE

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MONEY IS ROLLING IN AND ADVISES

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STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO

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EXTEND THEIR MONEY WISELY, AND

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THIS WEEK PRESIDENT BIDEN MOCKED

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McCONNELL FOR TALKING ABOUT

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THE MONEY FROM THE BILL THAT

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McCONNELL OPPOSED.

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>> LOOK IT P, MAN.

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HE'S BRAGGING ABOUT IT IN

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KENTUCKY.

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IT'S A GREAT THING FOR

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IT'S GETTING $4 BILLION TO HELP

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THE POOR.

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THAT'S AMAZING.

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CHECK OUT MITCH McCONNELL.

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YOU CAN EVEN SEE IT ON TV.

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>> Bill: IT'S NOT OFTEN

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KENTUCKY GETS MENTIONED THREE OR

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FOUR TIMES BY ANY PRESIDENT.

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>> Lawrence: THAT WAS AIN'TING

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SOUNDBITE BUT I HAVE TO SAY

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McCONNELL WAS NOT BRAGGING ON

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ALL THIS MONEY.

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HE IS ACKNOWLEDGING I THINK THE

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MONEY IS THERE.

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KENTUCKY WILL GET A LOT OF --

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MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM THIS

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BUT OVERALL HE STILL DOESN'T

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LIKE THIS EXPENDITURE BECAUSE

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HE'S AFRAID OF THE IMPACT IT

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WILL HAVE DOWN THE ROAD ON THE

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DEBT AND ON INFLATION AND THING

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LIKE THAT.

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SO TO SAY THAT HE IS BRAGGING ON

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IT IS A BIT OF AN

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OVERSTATEMENT.

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>> Bill: AND IT WAS PROBABLY

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FOR SOME ADDITIONAL RELIEF.

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HE JUST THOUGHT THIS WENT TOO

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FAR, AND THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN

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SIGNIFICANT MONEY COMING TO

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KENTUCKY.

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>> Lawrence: AT THE TIME IT

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WAS PASSED.

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>> Bill: I ASKED

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SENATOR McCONNELL A FEW WEEKS

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AGO WAS IT AWKWARD TO TRAVEL THE

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STATE AND TALK ABOUT SOMETHING

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THAT HE HAD VOTED AGAINST, AND

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HE SAID, NO, HE'S EDUCATING

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PEOPLE ABOUT THE MONEY THAT'S

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OUT THERE AND THAT HE DID THINK

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THE BILL WAS, AS WRITTEN, TOO

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BROAD AND TOO MUCH, AND TOO MUCH

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DEBT.

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>> Daniel: HE'S TALKING ABOUT

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THE MONEY, BUT ALSO HE HAS HAS A

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WAY OF SPEAKING ABOUT THE MONEY

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ON THE CAMPAIGN -- I'LL CALL AT

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THIS TIME CAMPAIGN TRAIL EVEN

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THOUGH HE'S NOT CAMPAIGNING AS

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HE TOURS THE STATE.

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WHEN HE DRAWS A REALLY CLEAR

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LINE THAT CAME INTO THE STATE

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BETWEEN 2 TRUMP ADMINISTRATION

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AND HE DOESN'T MENTION THE MONEY

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THAT CAME IN FROM THE AMERICAN

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RESCUE PLAN.

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HE DOES FOCUS A LOT ON THOSE

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EARLIER PACKAGES THAT WERE

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PASSED WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS

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STILL IN OFFICE.

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>> Bill: IN THE HEAT OF

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SUMMER, A DEMOCRAT PRIMARY IS

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FORMING IN KENTUCKY'S

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LOUISVILLE.

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ATTICA SCOTT ENTERING THE RACE

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FOR THE SEAT HELD BY LONGTIME

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DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS 9 JOHN YAR

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MONTH LAWRENCE, HOW DOES THAT

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STACK UP?

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>> Lawrence: THE BIG QUESTION

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IS WHY.

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ATTICA SCOTT IS IN A SAFE SEAT

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IN THE LEGISLATURE, ALTHOUGH SHE

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HAS OFTEN EXPRESSED FRUSTRATION

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AT WORKING WITH THE REPUBLICAN

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MAJORITY, BUT SHE CAN HAVE THAT

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SEAT FOR AS LONG AS SHE WANTS IT

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AND WHO KNOWS HOW MUCH LONGER

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JOHN YARMOUTH WILL BE IN

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CONGRESS.

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SHE RESPONDS BY SAYING IT'S NOT

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ALL ABOUT JOHN YARMOUTH.

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IT'S ABOUT SCRANSING HER AGENDA,

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WHICH IS TO THE LEFT EVEN OF --

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ADVANCING HER AGENDA, WHICH IS

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TO THE LEFT EVEN OF YARMOUTH'S

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AND HAVING SOMEBODY THAT THAT

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SEAT THAT LOOKS LIKE HER

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CONSTITUENTS, AN AFRICAN

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AMERICAN, AFRICAN AMERICAN

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WOMAN.

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SHE SAYS SHE'S HAD LOTS OF BLACK

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WOMEN URGE HER TO RUN.

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SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON SHE

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SAYS SHE'S RUNNING.

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>> Daniel: AND I MEAN, I THINK

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IT TESTS THE METTLEFUL

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PROGRESSIVE COALITION OF

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LOUISVILLE, RIGHT?

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YOU CAN POINT OUT THAT WHEN YOU

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LOOK AT LOUISVILLE'S MAYORS,

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THEY HAVEN'T EXACTLY BEEN

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PROGRESSIVES IN THE PAST.

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IF YOU LOOK AT THE 2020

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ELECTION, IT WASN'T -- THOSE

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ELECTIONS WEREN'T AS SUCCESSFUL

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FOR THE DALLES THEY WERE HOPING

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WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO

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FLIP IT'S SOME HOUSE AND SENATE

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SEATS, AND SO THIS WILL BE A

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TEST.

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I THINK SHE'S ALSO -- YOU KNOW,

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JOHN YARMOUTH IS IN HIS 70s.

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SHE'S HE'S GOING TO RETIRE

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EVENTUALLY, AND THERE ARE A LOT

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OF DEMOCRATS IN LOUISVILLE WHO

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SEE THAT AS THE NEXT STEP UP, SO

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SHE WOULD BE GETTING HER NAME

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OUT THERE BUT THERE'S ALWAYS I

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RISK WITH THAT.

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WHEN YOU GET INTO A RACE WITH

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SOMEBODY LIKE REPRESENTATIVE

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YARMOUTH, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A

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STRONG SHOWING, THAT COULD MAKE

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PEOPLE FEEL YOU'RE WEAKER RATHER

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THAN STRONGER, AND SO THERE'S

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GOING TO BE A LOT OF PRESSURE

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EVEN IF SHE DOESN'T 2007 A

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STRONG SHOWING AT THE SAME

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TIME.

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>> Lawrence: AND SHE'S

517
00:13:49,966 --> 00:13:51,566
STRIKING NOW WHILE THE IRON IS

518
00:13:51,233 --> 00:13:53,166
HOT.

519
00:13:51,566 --> 00:13:53,866
SHE GOT A LOT OF NAME

520
00:13:53,166 --> 00:13:56,733
RECOGNITION FROM HER

521
00:13:53,866 --> 00:14:02,600
PARTICIPATION IN LAST SUMMER'S

522
00:13:56,733 --> 00:14:03,500
RACIAL PROTESTS, SOCIAL JUSTICE

523
00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:07,000
PROTESTS, SO MAYBE SHE FEELS

524
00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:08,300
THAT THIS IS NOW THE TIME FOR

525
00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,266
HER TO DO THIS.

526
00:14:08,300 --> 00:14:11,066
>> Dave: MEAN 23 END OF THE

527
00:14:09,266 --> 00:14:12,600
DAY I THINK FOR LOUISVILLE

528
00:14:11,066 --> 00:14:12,900
VOTERS IS GOING TO COME DOWN TO

529
00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,266
POWER.

530
00:14:12,900 --> 00:14:16,000
THEY HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE WHO

531
00:14:14,266 --> 00:14:16,933
HAS A LOT OF POLITICAL POWER AS

532
00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,933
CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE BUDGET

533
00:14:16,933 --> 00:14:20,200
COMMITTEE, AND THEN DO THEY

534
00:14:18,933 --> 00:14:21,300
WANT -- ARE THEY LOOKING TO GIVE

535
00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,000
POWER THE KIND OF THE NEXT

536
00:14:21,300 --> 00:14:25,100
GENERATION, THIS NEW MOVEMENT OF

537
00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,133
MORE PROGRESSIVE POLITICIANS

538
00:14:25,100 --> 00:14:28,400
THAT, THE DEFINED SQUAD TYPES

539
00:14:26,133 --> 00:14:30,366
THAT ARE IN WASHINGTON, DC,.

540
00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:33,066
>> Bill: AS THIS COMES,

541
00:14:30,366 --> 00:14:34,333
REDISTRICTING IS YET TO COME.

542
00:14:33,066 --> 00:14:35,366
THERE ARE INDICATIONS THE

543
00:14:34,333 --> 00:14:36,566
REPUBLICANS MAY BE INCLINED TO

544
00:14:35,366 --> 00:14:37,033
LEAVE THE LOUISVILLE DISTRICT

545
00:14:36,566 --> 00:14:38,733
INTACT.

546
00:14:37,033 --> 00:14:40,400
THERE'S A FEAR THAT A LAWSUIT

547
00:14:38,733 --> 00:14:43,633
COULD BE FILED AND WON.

548
00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,600
CONGRESSMAN JAMES COMER TOLD

549
00:14:43,633 --> 00:14:46,266
APPLICANTO, WHEN YOU GET REAL

550
00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,300
CUTE WITH YOU YOU END UP IN A

551
00:14:46,266 --> 00:14:48,566
LAWSUIT AND YOU LOSE IT.

552
00:14:47,300 --> 00:14:50,100
>> Lawrence: THAT'S A GOOD

553
00:14:48,566 --> 00:14:52,433
QUOTE BY COMB PER WHAT HE'S

554
00:14:50,100 --> 00:14:54,100
SAYING IS YOU COULD GERRYMANDER

555
00:14:52,433 --> 00:14:55,800
TOO MUCH AND END UP BACKFIRING

556
00:14:54,100 --> 00:14:58,166
AGAINST AND YOU YOU COULD END

557
00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,233
UP, INSTEAD OF GAINING POWER

558
00:14:58,166 --> 00:15:00,866
ACTUALLY OVER TIME LOSING POWER

559
00:14:59,233 --> 00:15:02,500
IS WHAT HE'S SAYING.

560
00:15:00,866 --> 00:15:03,366
>> Daniel: YEAH, AND YOU'VE

561
00:15:02,500 --> 00:15:04,666
GOT TO LOOK AT DEMOGRAPHIC

562
00:15:03,366 --> 00:15:06,233
CHANGES, TOO, RIGHT?

563
00:15:04,666 --> 00:15:07,300
IF THINGS GO WHERE THEY ARE

564
00:15:06,233 --> 00:15:08,366
WHERE SOME OF THE SUBURBS ARE

565
00:15:07,300 --> 00:15:11,100
TURNING MORE AND MORE

566
00:15:08,366 --> 00:15:14,633
DEMOCRATIC, I THINK IT GETS A A

567
00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:15,466
LITTLE DANGEROUS TRYING TO CUT

568
00:15:14,633 --> 00:15:16,866
UP DISTRICTS, AND DISTRICTS THAT

569
00:15:15,466 --> 00:15:17,266
WERE ONCE SAFELY RED COULD TURN

570
00:15:16,866 --> 00:15:19,866
UP PURPLISH.

571
00:15:17,266 --> 00:15:21,833
AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, OF COURSE,

572
00:15:19,866 --> 00:15:22,566
REPRESENT I THINK BEN CHANDLER.

573
00:15:21,833 --> 00:15:24,033
THEY CARDIOUP THAT DISTRICT FOR

574
00:15:22,566 --> 00:15:24,300
HIM AND TWO YEARS LATER HE WAS

575
00:15:24,033 --> 00:15:25,466
OUT.

576
00:15:24,300 --> 00:15:27,000
>> Lawrence: AND FACE IT,

577
00:15:25,466 --> 00:15:27,633
YARMOUTH IS RIGHT HOME IN THAT

578
00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,966
DISTRICT.

579
00:15:27,633 --> 00:15:33,266
IT IS A MORE DISH DISTRICT THAN

580
00:15:29,966 --> 00:15:34,566
THE REST OF THE STATE -- A ERR

581
00:15:33,266 --> 00:15:37,233
MORE LIBERAL DISTRICT AND HE

582
00:15:34,566 --> 00:15:37,600
REFLECTS THEM WELL THAT THAT

583
00:15:37,233 --> 00:15:39,166
DISTRICT.

584
00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,166
>> Bill: DAN, YOU LOOKED AT

585
00:15:39,166 --> 00:15:42,133
HOW OTHER STATES DO

586
00:15:40,166 --> 00:15:43,300
REDISTRICTING IN A MAYBE MORE

587
00:15:42,133 --> 00:15:44,333
TRANSPARENT WAY THAN WHAT WE

588
00:15:43,300 --> 00:15:44,700
HAVE SEEN PREVIOUSLY IN

589
00:15:44,333 --> 00:15:46,600
KENTUCKY.

590
00:15:44,700 --> 00:15:48,433
KANSAS APPARENTLY, THEY'RE GOING

591
00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,433
TO GO ACROSS THE STATES HAVE 14

592
00:15:48,433 --> 00:15:50,600
TOWN HALL MEETINGS, RIGHT?

593
00:15:49,433 --> 00:15:52,000
>> Daniel: YEAH, AND I DON'T

594
00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,433
KNOW HOW MUCH YOU LEARN FROM

595
00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,166
TOWN HALLNESS THIS TYPE OF

596
00:15:54,433 --> 00:15:56,800
SETTING.

597
00:15:55,166 --> 00:15:58,333
I MEAN, THERE'S ALSO JUST

598
00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,300
THIS -- I MEAN, I THINK WHEN

599
00:15:58,333 --> 00:16:00,900
PEOPLE LEARN ABOUT

600
00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:03,100
GERRYMANDERING AND THE FACT THAT

601
00:16:00,900 --> 00:16:05,233
IT'S LEGAL AND LOUDLY, THEY GET

602
00:16:03,100 --> 00:16:05,933
A LITTLE KIND OF -- ALLOWED,

603
00:16:05,233 --> 00:16:07,466
THEY GET DISCOURAGED WITH

604
00:16:05,933 --> 00:16:09,400
POLITICS, AND SO THERE ARE SOME

605
00:16:07,466 --> 00:16:12,200
STATES THAT HAVE TRIED TO DO

606
00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,833
NON-PARTISAN REDISTRICTING OR

607
00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,600
INDEPENDENT COMMISSIONERS

608
00:16:12,833 --> 00:16:15,466
APPOINT A SET GROUP OF LAWMAKERS

609
00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,533
TO STUDY IT TO TRY TO MAKE IT'S

610
00:16:15,466 --> 00:16:18,200
A FAIR AS POSSIBLE.

611
00:16:16,533 --> 00:16:20,366
THAT'S NOT REALLY THE WAY IT

612
00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,666
WORKS IN KENTUCKY.

613
00:16:20,366 --> 00:16:23,200
IF POLITICAL PARTY THAT IS IN

614
00:16:21,666 --> 00:16:24,933
CHARGE IS GOING TO HAVE ALL THE

615
00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,466
POWER, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT A

616
00:16:24,933 --> 00:16:28,733
TOWN HALL IS GOING TO TELL YOU

617
00:16:27,466 --> 00:16:30,566
BUT REPUBLICANS HAVE TALKED

618
00:16:28,733 --> 00:16:32,100
ABOUT TOURING THE STATE.

619
00:16:30,566 --> 00:16:33,766
>> Bill: WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES

620
00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:34,866
AND PEOPLE ARE WATCHING FOR HOW

621
00:16:33,766 --> 00:16:35,966
TRANSPARENT IT IS.

622
00:16:34,866 --> 00:16:38,066
JESS, REDISTRICTING IS JUST ONE

623
00:16:35,966 --> 00:16:40,466
OF THE ISSUES COMING UP IN THE

624
00:16:38,066 --> 00:16:41,700
SESSION IN 2022.

625
00:16:40,466 --> 00:16:43,233
HOUSE SENATE JOINT COMMITTEE

626
00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:45,233
HELD HAD A MEETING THIS WEEK IN

627
00:16:43,233 --> 00:16:47,300
WHICH A POSSIBLE BAN ON TEACHING

628
00:16:45,233 --> 00:16:47,866
CRITICAL RACE THEORY WAS THE

629
00:16:47,300 --> 00:16:49,300
MAIN DISCUSSION.

630
00:16:47,866 --> 00:16:51,100
>> Jess: YES.

631
00:16:49,300 --> 00:16:53,600
THERE HAVE BEEN TWO BILLS THAT

632
00:16:51,100 --> 00:16:54,533
HAVE -- THAT ARE FILED, BOTH BY

633
00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,233
CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS THAT

634
00:16:54,533 --> 00:16:58,533
WOULD, THEY SAY WOULD BAN

635
00:16:56,233 --> 00:16:59,933
CREDIBLY RACE THEORY FROM PUBLIC

636
00:16:58,533 --> 00:17:01,333
K-12 SCHOOLS AND UNIVERSITIES.

637
00:16:59,933 --> 00:17:03,366
THEY NEVER -- THEY DON'T

638
00:17:01,333 --> 00:17:07,166
ACTUALLY EXPLICITLY MENTION

639
00:17:03,366 --> 00:17:07,566
CRITICAL RACE THEORY IN THE

640
00:17:07,166 --> 00:17:08,800
LEGISLATION.

641
00:17:07,566 --> 00:17:10,733
THAT'S ALL BEEN KIND OF LIKE

642
00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,100
WHAT THEY'VE PUT OUT IN PRESS

643
00:17:10,733 --> 00:17:12,400
RELEASES.

644
00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:14,133
BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT THESE BILLS

645
00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,666
WOULD DO IS THEY WOULD MAKE IT

646
00:17:14,133 --> 00:17:19,333
DIFFICULT FOR TEACHERS TO TALK

647
00:17:15,666 --> 00:17:21,700
ABOUT RACISM, SEXISM, ESPECIALLY

648
00:17:19,333 --> 00:17:24,666
SYSTEMIC RACISM, WHICH IS THE

649
00:17:21,700 --> 00:17:25,733
IDEA THAT RACISM ISN'T JUST A

650
00:17:24,666 --> 00:17:27,800
PERSONAL PREJUDICE HELD BY

651
00:17:25,733 --> 00:17:29,200
SOMEONE BUT THAT IT'S ACTUALLY

652
00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,000
BAKED INTO STRUCTURES AND

653
00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:35,633
INSTITUTIONS.

654
00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:37,700
SO THEY HAD A DISCUSSION.

655
00:17:35,633 --> 00:17:38,766
THEY HAD A -- A LOT OF THE

656
00:17:37,700 --> 00:17:41,000
DISCUSSION -- A LOT OF THE

657
00:17:38,766 --> 00:17:42,400
PEOPLE WHO ARE WHY ANTI-CRITICAL

658
00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,200
RACE THEORY ADMIT THAT THEY'RE

659
00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,766
NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS VERY

660
00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,600
SPECIFIC BODY OF LEGAL

661
00:17:45,766 --> 00:17:48,033
SCHOLARSHIP THAT'S CALLED

662
00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,866
CRITICAL RACE THEORY.

663
00:17:48,033 --> 00:17:51,200
THEY'RE REALLY USING IT AS AN

664
00:17:49,866 --> 00:17:54,066
UMBRELLA TERM TO LUMP TOGETHER

665
00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,700
ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT

666
00:17:54,066 --> 00:17:56,766
DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION

667
00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:58,666
INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE SEEN

668
00:17:56,766 --> 00:17:59,000
TAKE OFF ESPECIALLY SINCE LAST

669
00:17:58,666 --> 00:18:02,166
SUMMER.

670
00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,733
AND SO WHAT YOU SAW AT THAT

671
00:18:02,166 --> 00:18:06,633
HEARING WAS THE PRESENTERS OF

672
00:18:03,733 --> 00:18:07,933
THE BILL TALK ABOUT THE NEED TO

673
00:18:06,633 --> 00:18:13,566
OUTLAW CRITICAL RACE THEORY, BUT

674
00:18:07,933 --> 00:18:14,900
THEN YOU ALSO HAD -- YOU HAD TO

675
00:18:13,566 --> 00:18:18,966
THE COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATION

676
00:18:14,900 --> 00:18:20,166
JASON GLASS AND JCPS

677
00:18:18,966 --> 00:18:23,133
SUPERINTENDENT MARTY POLLIO SAID

678
00:18:20,166 --> 00:18:25,300
THEY WERE STANDING BY EQUITY,

679
00:18:23,133 --> 00:18:26,933
DIVERSION AND INCLUSION AND

680
00:18:25,300 --> 00:18:28,400
TRYING DEFINED REALLY DRIVE THE

681
00:18:26,933 --> 00:18:29,700
PASSAGE MOMENT THAT CRITICAL

682
00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,600
RACE THEORY AND DIVERSITY AND

683
00:18:29,700 --> 00:18:33,166
EQUITY AND INCLUSION ARE TWO

684
00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:36,733
VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.

685
00:18:33,166 --> 00:18:38,533
>> Bill: AND BOTH SIDES PLACED

686
00:18:36,733 --> 00:18:40,866
THE CHAIRY REGINA HUFF FOR

687
00:18:38,533 --> 00:18:42,333
HOLDINGS THE HEARING AND HAVE

688
00:18:40,866 --> 00:18:43,433
THE HAVE HAVING THE DISCUSSION.

689
00:18:42,333 --> 00:18:45,733
>> Lawrence: REALLY IT COMES

690
00:18:43,433 --> 00:18:46,333
DOWN TO HOW ONE DEFINES CRITICAL

691
00:18:45,733 --> 00:18:48,466
RACE THEORY.

692
00:18:46,333 --> 00:18:51,200
I HAVE TALKED ON SOME SUPPORTERS

693
00:18:48,466 --> 00:18:52,766
OF THE BAN WHO SAY, I DON'T HAVE

694
00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,500
ME NO PROBLEM TEACHING MORE

695
00:18:52,766 --> 00:18:55,000
BLACK HISTORY, FILLING IN SOME

696
00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:58,600
OF THOSE GAPS IN HISTORY, BUT

697
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,266
THEY BELIEVE CRT IS SOMETHING

698
00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,733
DIFFERENT, THAT IT ACTUALLY

699
00:18:59,266 --> 00:19:03,900
FOMENTS DIVISION AND IT IS IN

700
00:19:01,733 --> 00:19:04,233
EFFECT RACIST AGAINST WHITE

701
00:19:03,900 --> 00:19:05,566
PEOPLE.

702
00:19:04,233 --> 00:19:06,066
SO THERE IS SOME OF THAT GOING

703
00:19:05,566 --> 00:19:07,800
ON AS WELL.

704
00:19:06,066 --> 00:19:08,366
>> Bill: WE'LL WATCH

705
00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:08,766
ESSENTIALS THE SESSION

706
00:19:08,366 --> 00:19:09,533
APPROACHES.

707
00:19:08,766 --> 00:19:12,433
THE STATE CAPITOL WAS SHAKEN

708
00:19:09,533 --> 00:19:14,433
THIS WEEK BY THE NEWS THAT

709
00:19:12,433 --> 00:19:14,900
LONGTIME STATE SENATOR TOM

710
00:19:14,433 --> 00:19:17,266
BUFORD HAD DIED.

711
00:19:14,900 --> 00:19:19,000
HE WAS 72 YEARS OLD.

712
00:19:17,266 --> 00:19:20,800
U.S. SENATOR MITCH McCONNELL

713
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,500
SAID OF SENATOR BUFORD, "THE

714
00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,500
IMPACTS OF HIS WORK COULD BE

715
00:19:22,500 --> 00:19:26,133
FELT FAR BEYOND THE BORDERS

716
00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:27,233
HERSELF SENATE DISTRICT,

717
00:19:26,133 --> 00:19:29,166
IMPROVING THE LIVES HAVE

718
00:19:27,233 --> 00:19:29,600
KENTUCKIANS THROUGHOUT THE

719
00:19:29,166 --> 00:19:32,600
COMMONWEALTH."

720
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,900
AND IN A STATEMENT IS IF

721
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,333
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS MADE NOTE

722
00:19:33,900 --> 00:19:36,966
CALLING HELP A TRUE PUBLIC

723
00:19:35,333 --> 00:19:38,733
SERVANTS WHO WAS FULL OF LIFE,

724
00:19:36,966 --> 00:19:39,900
LAUGHTER AND HAD A CONTAGIOUS

725
00:19:38,733 --> 00:19:40,633
LAUGHTER THAT COULD LIGHT UP ANY

726
00:19:39,900 --> 00:19:42,966
ROOM.

727
00:19:40,633 --> 00:19:44,366
LAWRENCE, A REPORTERS WE KNEW

728
00:19:42,966 --> 00:19:45,600
SENATOR BUFORD OVER THE YEARS.

729
00:19:44,366 --> 00:19:47,400
WE EXPERIENCED THAT WARMTH AND

730
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:50,966
WIT, AND HE COULD SEEM TO EMBODY

731
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,766
THAT ABILITY TO DISAGREE WITHOUT

732
00:19:50,966 --> 00:19:52,233
BEING DISAGREEABLE, WHICH IS

733
00:19:51,766 --> 00:19:53,700
RARE THESE DAYS.

734
00:19:52,233 --> 00:19:54,166
>> Lawrence: CAN I NOT KNOW

735
00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:56,533
HIM WELL.

736
00:19:54,166 --> 00:19:57,966
-- I DID NOT KNOW HIM WELL,

737
00:19:56,533 --> 00:19:58,266
INTERVIEWED HIM BUT I DID KNOW

738
00:19:57,966 --> 00:20:00,133
THIS.

739
00:19:58,266 --> 00:20:01,700
HE WAS NOT A FLAMETHROWER.

740
00:20:00,133 --> 00:20:03,033
HE IS NOT ONE OF THOSE ONES WHO

741
00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:03,566
WOULD TRY TO CUT DOWN THE

742
00:20:03,033 --> 00:20:06,366
OPPOSITION.

743
00:20:03,566 --> 00:20:08,800
HE WAS A BUILDER OF CONSENSUS.

744
00:20:06,366 --> 00:20:11,766
AND HE WAS VERY FUNNY, VERY

745
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,933
WITTY, BUT HE HAD NO INTEREST IN

746
00:20:11,766 --> 00:20:15,000
SEPARATING SEPARATING PEOPLE BY

747
00:20:12,933 --> 00:20:15,366
POLITICAL LINES IF WE COULD

748
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,400
AVOID IT.

749
00:20:15,366 --> 00:20:19,900
>> Bill: DAN, HE SAW CHANGES.

750
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:22,033
HE WAS ELECTED IN 1990.

751
00:20:19,900 --> 00:20:24,066
TOOK OFFICE IN 1991 WHEN THE

752
00:20:22,033 --> 00:20:25,233
REPUBLICANS WERE IN A MINORITY

753
00:20:24,066 --> 00:20:26,833
BY FAR IN FRANKFORT.

754
00:20:25,233 --> 00:20:28,633
>> Daniel: AND HE WAS ELECTED

755
00:20:26,833 --> 00:20:29,433
TO LEADERSHIP THAT FIRST SESSION

756
00:20:28,633 --> 00:20:31,833
WHICH IS PRETTY RARE.

757
00:20:29,433 --> 00:20:33,633
SHE SAW THE SENATE WITCH FROM

758
00:20:31,833 --> 00:20:35,300
DEMOCRATIC NOMINATED AND CAN BE

759
00:20:33,633 --> 00:20:37,700
DOMINATED TO REPUBLICAN

760
00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:38,433
DOMINATED, AND HE GETS CREATED.

761
00:20:37,700 --> 00:20:41,133
LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THE

762
00:20:38,433 --> 00:20:41,866
DIFFERENT ACCOMPLISHMENTS HE

763
00:20:41,133 --> 00:20:43,133
HAD, DOING WILLS TO HELP PEOPLE

764
00:20:41,866 --> 00:20:45,733
WHO ARE DISABLED OR HELP PEOPLE

765
00:20:43,133 --> 00:20:48,400
IN HOSPITALS.

766
00:20:45,733 --> 00:20:51,400
STATE SENATOR DAMON THAYER WAS

767
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,700
SAYING HE LOVED EXPENSIVE BURR

768
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:52,933
BOHN.

769
00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:53,966
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE TAKEN

770
00:20:52,933 --> 00:20:55,166
ABACK BY THE DEATH.

771
00:20:53,966 --> 00:20:56,366
THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY SEE IT

772
00:20:55,166 --> 00:20:57,466
COMING AND I THINK THEY ARE

773
00:20:56,366 --> 00:20:58,266
STILL PROCESSING IT.

774
00:20:57,466 --> 00:20:59,200
>> Lawrence: IT SHOCKED A LOT

775
00:20:58,266 --> 00:21:01,233
OF PEOPLE.

776
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,300
NOT MANY PEOPLE, IF ANY, KNEW

777
00:21:01,233 --> 00:21:05,533
THAT HE WAS ILL BUT HE DIED DOWN

778
00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:05,833
IN FLORIDA WHERE HE WAS AT THE

779
00:21:05,533 --> 00:21:06,800
TIME.

780
00:21:05,833 --> 00:21:08,133
>> Bill: HE'LL BE MISSED.

781
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,033
THERE WILL BE A SPECIAL ELECTION

782
00:21:08,133 --> 00:21:11,133
TO DECIDE WHO SERVES THE

783
00:21:10,033 --> 00:21:11,933
REMAINDER OF BUFORD'S TERM.

784
00:21:11,133 --> 00:21:14,566
THE GOVERNOR WILL SET THAT IN

785
00:21:11,933 --> 00:21:15,033
THE WEEKS AHEAD.

786
00:21:14,566 --> 00:21:16,466
EDUCATION.

787
00:21:15,033 --> 00:21:19,366
JESS, SUMMER SCHOOL HAS SEEN AN

788
00:21:16,466 --> 00:21:19,800
INCREASE IN ENROLLMENT

789
00:21:19,366 --> 00:21:21,133
SUBSTANTIALLY.

790
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,166
I KNOW IN JEFFERSON COUNTY.

791
00:21:21,133 --> 00:21:24,233
IS THAT CATCHING UP FROM THE

792
00:21:23,166 --> 00:21:26,133
DIFFICULTIES OF COVID?

793
00:21:24,233 --> 00:21:28,000
>> Jess: YEAH, THEY'VE BEEN

794
00:21:26,133 --> 00:21:32,200
INCREASED ENROLLMENT.

795
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:33,166
BEFORE THEY PANDEMICS THEY HAD

796
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,866
100,000 SIDS KIDS IN SUMMER

797
00:21:33,166 --> 00:21:37,133
LEARNING IN PERSON.

798
00:21:35,866 --> 00:21:38,800
THIS YEAR THEY HAVE 6500.

799
00:21:37,133 --> 00:21:42,133
THEY WERE PLANNING TO INCREASE

800
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,833
SUMMER ENROLLMENT AS PART OF THE

801
00:21:42,133 --> 00:21:44,066
CONTRADICTS STRATEGY BUT THEY

802
00:21:42,833 --> 00:21:45,400
SEE IT AS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT

803
00:21:44,066 --> 00:21:47,200
NOW BECAUSE OF CONSTRUCTIONAL

804
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,966
SOME TIME AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT

805
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,600
KIDS, A LOT KIDS MISSED OUT ON

806
00:21:49,966 --> 00:21:52,133
REMOTE LEARNING.

807
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,600
>> Bill: WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY AN

808
00:21:52,133 --> 00:21:54,633
UNSETTLED JOB MARKET OUT THERE

809
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,766
THAT WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME

810
00:21:54,633 --> 00:22:00,100
BUT IN CONTRAST TO THAT, YOU'RE

811
00:21:56,766 --> 00:22:01,400
LOOKING INTO THE FACT THAT THE

812
00:22:00,100 --> 00:22:02,733
JEFFERSON COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL

813
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,300
ESTABLISHMENT LEAST IS DOING A

814
00:22:02,733 --> 00:22:04,900
TREMENDOUS JOB WITH TEACHER

815
00:22:04,300 --> 00:22:05,533
RETENTION.

816
00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:07,300
PEOPLE ARE STAYING.

817
00:22:05,533 --> 00:22:07,600
>> Jess: YEAH, IT'S KIND OF

818
00:22:07,300 --> 00:22:09,800
WILD.

819
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,833
THE LAST TWO YEARS THE PANDEMIC

820
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,800
YEARS, TEACHER RETENTION HAS

821
00:22:10,833 --> 00:22:18,400
BEEN LIKE 94% AND 96%, WHICH IS

822
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:19,966
JUST UNFATHOMABLE, CONSIDERING

823
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:23,133
USUALLY IT'S IN THE 80s, AND

824
00:22:19,966 --> 00:22:24,666
SO THE QUESTION IS WHY.

825
00:22:23,133 --> 00:22:26,733
IT COULD BE THAT TEACHER

826
00:22:24,666 --> 00:22:28,800
RETENTION DOES GENERALLY GO UP

827
00:22:26,733 --> 00:22:29,166
DURING TIMES OF ECONOMIC

828
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,866
TURMOIL.

829
00:22:29,166 --> 00:22:32,500
THERE'S FEWER OPPORTUNITIES FOR

830
00:22:30,866 --> 00:22:34,800
HIRE PAYING JOBS, TEACHING JOBS

831
00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:35,100
ARE PRETTY SECURE SO PEOPLE

832
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,500
STAY.

833
00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:38,000
BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE'S A

834
00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:39,533
LOT OF POLLING GOING ON THAT

835
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,200
TEACHERS ARE MORE LIKELY TO

836
00:22:39,533 --> 00:22:42,400
LEAVE THEIR JOBS THAN EVER

837
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,933
BEFORE.

838
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,433
SO IT'S NOT REALLY CLEAR WHAT'S

839
00:22:43,933 --> 00:22:48,633
GOING ON IN JEFFERSON COUNTY.

840
00:22:46,433 --> 00:22:49,866
THEY'VE ALSO CAN BE THE DISTRICT

841
00:22:48,633 --> 00:22:51,466
STAFF SAY THEY HAVE DONE A LOT

842
00:22:49,866 --> 00:22:53,066
OF INITIATIVES AROUND RETENTION

843
00:22:51,466 --> 00:22:53,766
SO THEY'RE TAKING CREDIT FOR

844
00:22:53,066 --> 00:22:56,133
THAT AS WELL.

845
00:22:53,766 --> 00:22:56,700
SO IT'S NOT CLEAR YET BUT I'M

846
00:22:56,133 --> 00:22:58,200
TRYING TO FIND OUT.

847
00:22:56,700 --> 00:22:59,300
>> Bill: YOU'RE FRYING TO LOOK

848
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,533
INTO IT.

849
00:22:59,300 --> 00:23:02,966
>> Lawrence: ALSO, POLLIO IS

850
00:23:01,533 --> 00:23:04,333
GIVING THEM A STIPEND.

851
00:23:02,966 --> 00:23:04,766
THERE'S A AWARD ARE FOR

852
00:23:04,333 --> 00:23:06,300
STAYING.

853
00:23:04,766 --> 00:23:07,166
>> Bill: AND THAT'S COMING OUT

854
00:23:06,300 --> 00:23:08,433
OF COVID MONEY.

855
00:23:07,166 --> 00:23:09,600
HOW MUCH IS THAT?

856
00:23:08,433 --> 00:23:10,800
>> Lawrence: $5 MILLION?

857
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,933
IS THAT HOW MUCH IT IS?

858
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,800
>> Jess: THE STIPEND IS $5,000

859
00:23:12,933 --> 00:23:17,333
PER EMPLOYEE, AND IT'S PAID OUT

860
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,033
OVER THREE INSTALLMENTS OVER THE

861
00:23:17,333 --> 00:23:19,433
NEXT YEAR.

862
00:23:18,033 --> 00:23:20,433
>> Daniel: IF IT WAS

863
00:23:19,433 --> 00:23:23,633
$5 MILLION, I WAS GOING TO

864
00:23:20,433 --> 00:23:27,300
BECOME A TEACHER.

865
00:23:23,633 --> 00:23:27,766
>> YES THE TOTAL AMOUNT TO JSPC

866
00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:28,833
IS $578 MILLION.

867
00:23:27,766 --> 00:23:29,166
IT'S MORE THAN A HALF A BILLION

868
00:23:28,833 --> 00:23:30,366
DOLLARS.

869
00:23:29,166 --> 00:23:32,433
IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

870
00:23:30,366 --> 00:23:34,633
>> Lawrence: THERE'S A 5 IN

871
00:23:32,433 --> 00:23:35,366
THERE SOMEWHERE.

872
00:23:34,633 --> 00:23:36,533
>> Bill: ALL RIGHT.

873
00:23:35,366 --> 00:23:38,600
KENTUCKY STATE POLICE IS

874
00:23:36,533 --> 00:23:39,433
ESTABLISHING A TEAM TO

875
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,066
INVESTIGATE SEX CRIMES.

876
00:23:39,433 --> 00:23:43,533
DOES THIS GO BACK TO THE

877
00:23:41,066 --> 00:23:46,866
DISCOVERY A FEW YEARS AGO THAT

878
00:23:43,533 --> 00:23:47,200
SOME RAPE KITS HAD NEVER BEEN

879
00:23:46,866 --> 00:23:48,566
TESTED?

880
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,500
>> Lawrence: YEAH, IT DOES GO

881
00:23:48,566 --> 00:23:51,433
BACK TO THAT.

882
00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:53,566
THAT WAS A BIG CONTROVERSY

883
00:23:51,433 --> 00:23:55,200
SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN THERE

884
00:23:53,566 --> 00:23:55,500
WERE SO MANY UNTESTED RAPE

885
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,033
KITS.

886
00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:58,300
THERE HAS BEEN A GREAT EFFORT TO

887
00:23:57,033 --> 00:23:59,833
GET CAUGHT UP ON THAT.

888
00:23:58,300 --> 00:24:02,100
WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS,

889
00:23:59,833 --> 00:24:04,400
THIS STORY IS IT'S $1.5 MILLION

890
00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:05,066
BUT ESSENTIALLY IT'S SHIFTING

891
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,833
SOME INVESTIGATORS FROM IF

892
00:24:05,066 --> 00:24:08,033
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE TO THE

893
00:24:06,833 --> 00:24:10,066
CONSTITUENT STATE POLICE SO IT'S

894
00:24:08,033 --> 00:24:11,200
A SHIFTING OF RESOURCES, NOT

895
00:24:10,066 --> 00:24:13,500
NECESSARILY NEW RESOURCES.

896
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,733
>> Bill: SO THERE WILL BE THAT

897
00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,766
SPECIAL TEAM THAT --

898
00:24:14,733 --> 00:24:17,100
>> Lawrence: THERE WILL BE A

899
00:24:15,766 --> 00:24:18,033
SPECIAL TEAM THAT WILL NOW

900
00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:19,466
INVESTIGATE THESE PAST RAPE

901
00:24:18,033 --> 00:24:25,466
CASES AND RAPE KITS.

902
00:24:19,466 --> 00:24:26,566
>> Bill: LAWRENCE, MORE THAN

903
00:24:25,466 --> 00:24:27,866
22020 NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS ARE

904
00:24:26,566 --> 00:24:30,000
BEING DEPLOYED TO THE SOUTHERN

905
00:24:27,866 --> 00:24:31,066
BORDER TO COMPLY.

906
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,600
>> Lawrence: THE GOVERNOR SAID

907
00:24:31,066 --> 00:24:33,666
HE WAS NOT DEPLOYING THEM BUT IT

908
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,966
WAS A REQUEST FROM THE FEDERAL

909
00:24:33,666 --> 00:24:37,400
GOVERNMENT AND THEY'LL GO GOING

910
00:24:34,966 --> 00:24:39,533
COUN TO THE SOUTHWEST TO HELP

911
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,500
LOGISTICAL AND BACKUP KINDS OF

912
00:24:39,533 --> 00:24:41,966
DUTIES TO HELP WITH THAT CRISIS

913
00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:43,700
DOWN THERE.

914
00:24:41,966 --> 00:24:45,166
>> Bill: WITH THE SPED-UP

915
00:24:43,700 --> 00:24:46,366
TIMETABLE FOR TROOPS BEING

916
00:24:45,166 --> 00:24:48,666
PULLED OUT OF AFGHANISTAN, MOVED

917
00:24:46,366 --> 00:24:49,766
TO AUGUST 31st, SENATORS

918
00:24:48,666 --> 00:24:52,866
McCONNELL AND RAND PAUL ARE

919
00:24:49,766 --> 00:24:53,266
SPLIT ON THAT ISSUE, WHICH IS

920
00:24:52,866 --> 00:24:54,400
INTERESTING.

921
00:24:53,266 --> 00:24:54,766
>> Daniel: WHICH IS NOT

922
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,500
UNUSUAL.

923
00:24:54,766 --> 00:24:57,900
IT'S ABOUT THE WAR.

924
00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:59,566
RAND PAUL HAS ALWAYS SAID, HEY,

925
00:24:57,900 --> 00:25:00,600
LET'S GET THEM OUT OF THERE

926
00:24:59,566 --> 00:25:03,133
WHEREAS SENATOR McCONNELL HAS

927
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,700
BEEN MORE IN SUPPORT OF THE WARS

928
00:25:03,133 --> 00:25:05,733
IN THE AREA.

929
00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:06,433
>> Bill: FANCY FARM NOW LESS

930
00:25:05,733 --> 00:25:07,966
THAN A MONTH AWAY.

931
00:25:06,433 --> 00:25:08,866
WHAT ARE WE HEARING ABOUT THE

932
00:25:07,966 --> 00:25:09,700
SHOW OUT THERE?

933
00:25:08,866 --> 00:25:10,533
>> Lawrence: I THINK IT WILL

934
00:25:09,700 --> 00:25:12,666
BE INTERESTING BECAUSE THEY

935
00:25:10,533 --> 00:25:13,500
DIDN'T HAVE ONE LAST YEAR

936
00:25:12,666 --> 00:25:14,633
BECAUSE OF THE VIRUS, AND

937
00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:17,433
THERE'S NO STATEWIDE ELECTION

938
00:25:14,633 --> 00:25:20,633
THIS YEAR, BUT IT WILL BE A

939
00:25:17,433 --> 00:25:22,633
PREVIEW OF 2023 EVEN WITH THE

940
00:25:20,633 --> 00:25:24,233
GOVERNOR'S RACE AND SOME OTHER

941
00:25:22,633 --> 00:25:24,800
RACES THAT ARE COMING UP OVER

942
00:25:24,233 --> 00:25:25,900
NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

943
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,233
>> Daniel: AND IT'S ONE OF

944
00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:28,866
THOSE SIGN POSTS OF THINGS

945
00:25:27,233 --> 00:25:29,566
RETURNING TO NORMAL, KIND OF

946
00:25:28,866 --> 00:25:30,900
LIKE DERBY.

947
00:25:29,566 --> 00:25:31,833
FANCY FARM IS THE DERBY OF

948
00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:33,533
POLITICS, AND TO HAVE THAT

949
00:25:31,833 --> 00:25:34,900
HAPPEN AGAIN, I WAS ACTUALLY OUT

950
00:25:33,533 --> 00:25:36,866
IN WESTERN KENTUCKY THIS WEEK

951
00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:37,333
AND I WENT TO THE FREIGHT

952
00:25:36,866 --> 00:25:37,700
HOUSE.

953
00:25:37,333 --> 00:25:40,333
I.

954
00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:40,633
IT FELT LIKE I WAS AT FRANCES

955
00:25:40,333 --> 00:25:41,266
FARM.

956
00:25:40,633 --> 00:25:41,833
>> Bill: YOU HAD THE FULL

957
00:25:41,266 --> 00:25:43,800
EXPERIENCE OUT THERE.

958
00:25:41,833 --> 00:25:45,466
THERE'S A MEMORIAL TO COVID-19

959
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,866
VICTIMS AT THE BACK SIDE OF THE

960
00:25:45,466 --> 00:25:49,633
STATE CAPITOL AND THOSE WHO

961
00:25:47,866 --> 00:25:51,833
LOVES LOVED ONES CAN COME PICK

962
00:25:49,633 --> 00:25:52,566
UP A FLAG AS A WAY TO REMEMBER.

963
00:25:51,833 --> 00:25:53,700
>> Lawrence: THAT'S RIGHT.

964
00:25:52,566 --> 00:25:55,833
AND IF YOU HAD A LOVED ONE WHO

965
00:25:53,700 --> 00:25:57,400
DIED FROM COVID, YOU CAN CALL

966
00:25:55,833 --> 00:25:59,066
THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND THEY

967
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,166
WILL TRY STONED YOU ONE OF THOSE

968
00:25:59,066 --> 00:26:01,533
FLAGS IF YOU CAN'T GET HERE

969
00:26:01,166 --> 00:26:02,733
YOURSELF.

970
00:26:01,533 --> 00:26:03,666
>> Bill: THERE'S HAD A NEW

971
00:26:02,733 --> 00:26:05,833
BOOK COMING UP AT ABOUT THE LIFE

972
00:26:03,666 --> 00:26:06,200
AND CAREER OF PLANCK ARE SILAS

973
00:26:05,833 --> 00:26:07,633
HOUSE.

974
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,700
A NEWS JOURNAL IN SOUTHERN

975
00:26:07,633 --> 00:26:13,366
KENTUCKY IS REPORTING THAT BOOK

976
00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:14,400
COULD BE CALLED "EXPLORING, AN

977
00:26:13,366 --> 00:26:15,566
PLAY,AN WRITERS' WORK" WILL BE

978
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,133
AVAILABLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY

979
00:26:15,566 --> 00:26:18,300
THIS MONTH.

980
00:26:16,133 --> 00:26:20,066
HOUSE, WHO IS A PROLIFIC WRITER

981
00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:21,866
HIMSELF, SAID IT IS HAS BEEN

982
00:26:20,066 --> 00:26:23,866
HUMBLING TO BE THE SAFETY BOOK.

983
00:26:21,866 --> 00:26:25,166
DUNE IN MONDAY FOR "KENTUCKY

984
00:26:23,866 --> 00:26:28,533
TONIGHT" WHEN RENEE SHAW WILL

985
00:26:25,166 --> 00:26:29,566
HOST A DISCUSSION ON THE

986
00:26:28,533 --> 00:26:30,533
URBAN/RURAL DIVIDE IN KENTUCKY