1 00:00:11,366 --> 00:00:15,266 >> Bill: GOVERNOR BESHEAR LAYS 2 00:00:13,133 --> 00:00:15,633 OUT HIS $23 BILLION STATE BUDGET 3 00:00:15,266 --> 00:00:18,066 PROPOSAL. 4 00:00:15,633 --> 00:00:21,500 HE WANTS TO STOP CUTS, GIVE SOME 5 00:00:18,066 --> 00:00:21,833 RAISES, AND HIRE MORE SOCIAL 6 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:22,900 WORKERS. 7 00:00:21,833 --> 00:00:23,800 LEGISLATIVE LEADERS REACT AND 8 00:00:22,900 --> 00:00:25,833 PRESS FOR DETAILS. 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,533 THE SENATE PRESIDENT SAYS THE 10 00:00:25,833 --> 00:00:28,933 BUDGET SPEECH CONTAIN PUPPY DOGS 11 00:00:27,533 --> 00:00:30,566 AND RAINBOWS. 12 00:00:28,933 --> 00:00:31,866 IS A SPORTS BETTING BILL GOING 13 00:00:30,566 --> 00:00:32,766 TO PASS? 14 00:00:31,866 --> 00:00:35,300 THE STATE AGRICULTURE 15 00:00:32,766 --> 00:00:37,100 COMMISSIONER SAYS THE HEMP 16 00:00:35,300 --> 00:00:37,466 INDUSTRY FACES BUREAUCRATIC 17 00:00:37,100 --> 00:00:41,433 PARALYSIS. 18 00:00:37,466 --> 00:00:42,533 AS WE WATCH FOR A GROUNDHOG, 19 00:00:41,433 --> 00:00:45,033 FEBRUARY COMES IN WARMER. 20 00:00:42,533 --> 00:00:45,033 "COMMENT" IS NEXT ON KET. 21 00:00:54,833 --> 00:00:55,900 BE GOOD EVENING. 22 00:00:55,166 --> 00:00:58,300 I'M BILL BRYANT. 23 00:00:55,900 --> 00:01:00,200 AND WE WELCOME YOU TO "COMMENT 24 00:00:58,300 --> 00:01:01,800 ON KENTUCKY," A LOOK BACK AT THE 25 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,233 WEEK'S NEWS IN ITS 26 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,400 COMMONWEALTH. 27 00:01:02,233 --> 00:01:06,433 AND THE GUESTS ON OUR PANEL OF 28 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,033 WORKING KENTUCKY JOURNALISTS 29 00:01:06,433 --> 00:01:11,166 TONIGHT ARE ARE: 30 00:01:08,033 --> 00:01:12,166 MARCUS GREEN, REPORTER FOR WDRB 31 00:01:11,166 --> 00:01:14,266 IN LOUISVILLE. 32 00:01:12,166 --> 00:01:15,166 DEBORAH YETTER REPORTER FOR TO 33 00:01:14,266 --> 00:01:17,966 COURIER-JOURNAL. 34 00:01:15,166 --> 00:01:18,666 AND JOHN CHEVES REPORTER FOR THE 35 00:01:17,966 --> 00:01:19,366 ELECTRICS HERD LEADER. 36 00:01:18,666 --> 00:01:21,033 ALSO TONIGHT LEADERS IN THE 37 00:01:19,366 --> 00:01:23,333 STATE HOUSE PUT A PRIORITY ON 38 00:01:21,033 --> 00:01:24,533 EASING THE TRANSITION FROM 39 00:01:23,333 --> 00:01:24,900 PUBLIC ASSISTANCE TO THE 40 00:01:24,533 --> 00:01:27,033 WORKFORCE. 41 00:01:24,900 --> 00:01:29,566 AND IN WASHINGTON THE 42 00:01:27,033 --> 00:01:30,266 IMPEACHMENT TRIAL CONTINUES. 43 00:01:29,566 --> 00:01:31,466 KENTUCKY SENATOR MITCH 44 00:01:30,266 --> 00:01:32,800 McCONNELL TRYING TO STEER TO 45 00:01:31,466 --> 00:01:34,400 IT A QUICK CONCLUSION. 46 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,133 BUT FIRST GOVERNOR BESHEAR 47 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,733 UNVEILED HIS BUDGET PROPOSAL FOR 48 00:01:36,133 --> 00:01:38,033 KENTUCKY FOR THE NEXT TWO 49 00:01:37,733 --> 00:01:40,333 YEARS. 50 00:01:38,033 --> 00:01:42,466 HE SAYS THE STATE IS THE IN A 51 00:01:40,333 --> 00:01:44,500 POSITION TO END YEARS OF CUTS IN 52 00:01:42,466 --> 00:01:47,400 SEVERAL AREAS. 53 00:01:44,500 --> 00:01:49,100 >> THE LAST 14 YEARS OF CUTS DID 54 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,133 NOT SIMPLY CUT THE FAT. 55 00:01:49,100 --> 00:01:55,133 THEY WENT DEEP INTO THE BONE 56 00:01:51,133 --> 00:01:56,633 YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. 57 00:01:55,133 --> 00:01:58,866 TONIGHT I'M PROUD TO REPORT THAT 58 00:01:56,633 --> 00:02:01,066 I AM SUBMITTING A BUDGET THAT 59 00:01:58,866 --> 00:02:03,000 ENDS THESE 14 YEARS OF PAINFUL 60 00:02:01,066 --> 00:02:09,300 CUTS. 61 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:11,900 [APPLAUSE] 62 00:02:09,300 --> 00:02:12,933 YES, WE HAVE STRUCTURED A 63 00:02:11,900 --> 00:02:14,733 BALANCED, RESPONSIBLE BUDGET 64 00:02:12,933 --> 00:02:17,166 THAT MAKES NO NEW CUTS TO OUR 65 00:02:14,733 --> 00:02:20,200 GENERAL FUND. 66 00:02:17,166 --> 00:02:22,400 [APPLAUSE] 67 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,233 >> Bill: SO THE GOVERNOR SAYS 68 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,800 KENTUCKY IS POSITIONED TO PAY 69 00:02:24,233 --> 00:02:27,933 TEACHERS MORE AND STATE 70 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,233 EMPLOYEES AS WELL, TO END CUTS 71 00:02:27,933 --> 00:02:32,033 TO PUBLIC EDUCATION, TO HIRE 72 00:02:30,233 --> 00:02:33,866 HUNDREDS OF SOCIAL WORKERS. 73 00:02:32,033 --> 00:02:34,166 LET'S TALK ABOUT HIS PROPOSAL, 74 00:02:33,866 --> 00:02:36,066 JOHN. 75 00:02:34,166 --> 00:02:37,300 >> John: WELL, YES, THIS WAS 76 00:02:36,066 --> 00:02:39,100 THE FIRST BUDGET WE HAVE SEEN IN 77 00:02:37,300 --> 00:02:41,733 A GOOD NUMBER OF YEARS, AS THE 78 00:02:39,100 --> 00:02:43,733 GOVERNOR SAID, THAT DIDN'T LOOK 79 00:02:41,733 --> 00:02:44,166 ENTIRELY LIKE AN AUSTERITY 80 00:02:43,733 --> 00:02:45,066 BUDGET. 81 00:02:44,166 --> 00:02:47,266 THEY DIDN'T HAVE CUTS ACROSS THE 82 00:02:45,066 --> 00:02:49,466 BOARD TO A LOT OF CABINETS. 83 00:02:47,266 --> 00:02:50,666 IT DIDN'T ZERO OUT VARIOUS 84 00:02:49,466 --> 00:02:52,700 AGENCIES OUTSIDE OF GOVERNMENT 85 00:02:50,666 --> 00:02:56,333 THAT RELIED ON STATE FUNDING. 86 00:02:52,700 --> 00:02:59,633 HE RAISED OVER THE TWO YEARS 87 00:02:56,333 --> 00:03:00,666 ABOUT $1.5 BILLION FROM EITHER 88 00:02:59,633 --> 00:03:02,233 NATURALLY OCCURRING REVENUE JUST 89 00:03:00,666 --> 00:03:04,766 COMING IN FROM NEW TAX 90 00:03:02,233 --> 00:03:07,366 COLLECTIONS OR FROM NEW REVENUE 91 00:03:04,766 --> 00:03:08,300 SOURCES OR FROM FUND TRANSFERS, 92 00:03:07,366 --> 00:03:09,500 SWEEPING ACCOUNTS THAT WERE 93 00:03:08,300 --> 00:03:10,900 MEANT FOR ONE THING BUT NOW 94 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:11,833 THEY'RE GOING TO GO INTO THE 95 00:03:10,900 --> 00:03:13,033 GENERAL FUND. 96 00:03:11,833 --> 00:03:14,633 >> Deborah: WHICH IS A TIME 97 00:03:13,033 --> 00:03:15,033 HONORED PRACTICE I SHOULD POINT 98 00:03:14,633 --> 00:03:16,733 OUT. 99 00:03:15,033 --> 00:03:17,766 >> John: TIME HONOR PRACTICE 100 00:03:16,733 --> 00:03:19,966 IN FRANKFORT. 101 00:03:17,766 --> 00:03:22,500 SORRY, YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT WAS 102 00:03:19,966 --> 00:03:23,466 JUST IS IT SITTING THERE AND WE 103 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:24,466 NEEDED IT. 104 00:03:23,466 --> 00:03:26,033 WE HAVE PLANS FOR IT. 105 00:03:24,466 --> 00:03:26,400 MAYBE YOU'LL GET IT BACK NEXT 106 00:03:26,033 --> 00:03:27,466 TIME. 107 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,633 THAT'S HOW IT GOES. 108 00:03:27,466 --> 00:03:30,333 AS YOU MENTIONED, FOR STATE 109 00:03:29,633 --> 00:03:31,800 EMPLOYEES, FOR EXAMPLE, THESE 110 00:03:30,333 --> 00:03:33,266 ARE PEOPLE THAT FOR MOST OF THE 111 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,533 LAST DECADE HAVE NOT SEEN A PAY 112 00:03:33,266 --> 00:03:37,400 RAISE, AND THE COST OF LIVING 113 00:03:34,533 --> 00:03:39,100 HAS GONE UP, AND BETWEEN THE 114 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,633 STAGNANT WAGES AND THE FACT THAT 115 00:03:39,100 --> 00:03:42,633 FOR NEWLY HIRED STATE WORKERS 116 00:03:40,633 --> 00:03:43,966 YOU DON'T GET A PENSION ANYMORE, 117 00:03:42,633 --> 00:03:45,466 WORKING FOR KENTUCKY STATE 118 00:03:43,966 --> 00:03:46,400 GOVERNMENT DOESN'T LOOK VERY 119 00:03:45,466 --> 00:03:48,166 ATTRACTIVE AND SO HE'S OFFERED 120 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,600 THEM A 1% PAY RAISE FOR EACH OF 121 00:03:48,166 --> 00:03:51,400 THE NEXT TWO YEARS WHICH REALLY 122 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,733 ISN'T GOING TO KEEP UP WITH THE 123 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,633 COST OF LIVING STILL. 124 00:03:52,733 --> 00:03:56,266 AND IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT, AND 125 00:03:54,633 --> 00:03:58,566 THIS ISN'T MEANT TO BE A KNOCK 126 00:03:56,266 --> 00:04:00,100 ON THE GOVERNOR BUT A 1% 127 00:03:58,566 --> 00:04:02,966 INCREASE, A 1% INCREASE FOR 128 00:04:00,100 --> 00:04:04,166 HIGHER ED, A 1% INCREASE FOR 129 00:04:02,966 --> 00:04:06,400 SCHOOLS, NEXT YEAR THE FEDERAL 130 00:04:04,166 --> 00:04:08,800 GOVERNMENT ESTIMATES THAT 131 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,300 INFLATION WILL BE ABOUT 2.1%, SO 132 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,833 THESE VERY MODEST INCREASES. 133 00:04:10,300 --> 00:04:13,866 IN SPENDING PROBABLY WON'T EVEN 134 00:04:11,833 --> 00:04:15,066 KEEP UP WITH THE COST OF 135 00:04:13,866 --> 00:04:16,366 LIVING. 136 00:04:15,066 --> 00:04:18,300 >> Bill: DID HE SEEM TO WANT 137 00:04:16,366 --> 00:04:20,533 TO CROSS THE THRESHOLD OF BEING 138 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:22,200 ABLE TO SAY THE CUTTS ENDED. 139 00:04:20,533 --> 00:04:23,133 >> John: EXACTLY, A 1% 140 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,766 INCREASE IS BETTER THAN LOSING 141 00:04:23,133 --> 00:04:26,866 MONEY, AND A LOT OF THESE PLACES 142 00:04:24,766 --> 00:04:27,666 HAVE BEEN LITERALLY LOSING MONEY 143 00:04:26,866 --> 00:04:28,666 SO IT'S BENEFICIAL THE 144 00:04:27,666 --> 00:04:30,666 PROVERBIAL PUNCH IN THE MOST. 145 00:04:28,666 --> 00:04:31,766 >> Deborah: YEAR AFTER YEAR 146 00:04:30,666 --> 00:04:33,400 WHEN THE BUDGET TAME QAIM 147 00:04:31,766 --> 00:04:35,300 THROUGH THERE WOULD BE A 148 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,133 PERCENTAGE IS OF CUTS TO 149 00:04:35,300 --> 00:04:37,200 AGENCIES FOR MANY AGENCY. 150 00:04:36,133 --> 00:04:39,666 THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR MAY 151 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,600 NUMBER OF YEARS NOW. 152 00:04:39,666 --> 00:04:41,966 >> Josie Raymond: IN HIGHER 153 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,166 ED, POST-SECONDARY, HIGHER 154 00:04:41,966 --> 00:04:45,700 EDUCATION THEY WERE HOPING FOR A 155 00:04:43,166 --> 00:04:47,500 6% INCREASE FOR FUNDING FOR 156 00:04:45,700 --> 00:04:49,933 COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES ONE 157 00:04:47,500 --> 00:04:53,366 YEAR AND AN 8% INCREASE THE NEXT 158 00:04:49,933 --> 00:04:54,566 YEAR, AND I WAS AT A HOUSE 159 00:04:53,366 --> 00:04:56,366 SUBCOMMITTEE BUDGET HEARING 160 00:04:54,566 --> 00:04:57,766 WHERE HIGHER EDUCATION LEADERS 161 00:04:56,366 --> 00:04:59,500 WERE SAYING STILL OUR FINGERS 162 00:04:57,766 --> 00:05:00,566 ARE CROSSED AS THE BUDGET WORKS 163 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:02,500 ITS WAY THROUGH. 164 00:05:00,566 --> 00:05:04,966 MAYBE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO 6 AND 165 00:05:02,500 --> 00:05:07,666 8 PERCENT INCREASE BUT STILL DO 166 00:05:04,966 --> 00:05:08,233 BETTER THAN 1%. 167 00:05:07,666 --> 00:05:12,033 >> Marcus: THIS BUDGET 168 00:05:08,233 --> 00:05:13,666 PROPOSAL ALLOWS THE GOVERNOR TO 169 00:05:12,033 --> 00:05:14,866 KEEP A PAWN PROMISE THAT HE MADE 170 00:05:13,666 --> 00:05:16,933 TO GIVE TEACHERS A RAISE. 171 00:05:14,866 --> 00:05:18,600 NOW IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE 172 00:05:16,933 --> 00:05:19,600 $2,000 RAISE IS ACTUALLY MORE 173 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,233 LIKE A BONUS. 174 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,433 IT WOULD BE A ONE-TIME BONUS IN 175 00:05:23,233 --> 00:05:26,033 FISCAL 2021 BUT IT DOES ALLOW 176 00:05:24,433 --> 00:05:27,966 HIM TO KEEP AT LEAST ONE OF THE 177 00:05:26,033 --> 00:05:28,466 PROMISES HE MADE ON THE CAMPAIGN 178 00:05:27,966 --> 00:05:29,800 TRAIL. 179 00:05:28,466 --> 00:05:30,966 >> Bill: I'M CURIOUS ABOUT 180 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,600 THAT BECAUSE I HEARD THAT. 181 00:05:30,966 --> 00:05:33,400 IT IS IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE 182 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,733 BUDGET AND NOT THE SECOND OR 183 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,500 DOESN'T RECUR? 184 00:05:34,733 --> 00:05:38,266 >> Marcus: I BELIEVE IT'S A 185 00:05:36,500 --> 00:05:38,900 ONE-TIME, A ONE-TIME BONUS. 186 00:05:38,266 --> 00:05:40,566 >> Deborah: YOU MAINTAIN 187 00:05:38,900 --> 00:05:42,200 DOESN'T GO INTO THEIR BASE 188 00:05:40,566 --> 00:05:44,700 SALARY AND STAY THERE? 189 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,333 I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT. 190 00:05:44,700 --> 00:05:45,633 >> Marcus: I'M NOT REALLY 191 00:05:45,333 --> 00:05:46,500 SURE. 192 00:05:45,633 --> 00:05:48,400 >> Bill: I HAD HEARD THAT. 193 00:05:46,500 --> 00:05:49,933 WHICH IT HAS BEEN AN INTERESTING 194 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,233 WEEK TO SORT ALL OF THIS OUT, 195 00:05:49,933 --> 00:05:53,866 RIGHT? 196 00:05:50,233 --> 00:05:54,766 I MEAN, IT'S A COMPLICATED 197 00:05:53,866 --> 00:05:56,666 DOCUMENT, OBVIOUSLY. 198 00:05:54,766 --> 00:05:58,733 >> Deborah: THEY DIDN'T HAVE 199 00:05:56,666 --> 00:05:59,900 MUCH TIME TO GET IT TOGETHER. 200 00:05:58,733 --> 00:06:02,266 >> Bill: I INTERVIEWED THE 201 00:05:59,900 --> 00:06:03,533 GOVENOR TODAY, AND SHE HAD AT 202 00:06:02,266 --> 00:06:05,000 THIS POINT THERE'S UGLIES 203 00:06:03,533 --> 00:06:05,900 CONSULTATION GOING NOW BETWEEN 204 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,900 HIS ADMINISTRATION AND THE 205 00:06:05,900 --> 00:06:10,633 LEGISLATIVE LEADERS. 206 00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:11,766 AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE WAS SOME 207 00:06:10,633 --> 00:06:14,566 CRITICISM BY LEGISLATIVE 208 00:06:11,766 --> 00:06:16,566 LEADERSHIP ABOUT THEM FINING OUT 209 00:06:14,566 --> 00:06:17,033 WHEN THE PUBLIC DID ABOUT THE 210 00:06:16,566 --> 00:06:18,800 BUDGET PROPOSAL. 211 00:06:17,033 --> 00:06:20,000 >> Deborah: BUT IT WAS A 212 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,733 BIPARTISAN SNUB. 213 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,033 HE DIDN'T INFORM DEMOCRATIC 214 00:06:21,733 --> 00:06:23,433 LEADERS EITHER/OR THE 215 00:06:23,033 --> 00:06:24,433 REPUBLICANS. 216 00:06:23,433 --> 00:06:27,666 THEY ALL COMPLAINED THAT HE DID 217 00:06:24,433 --> 00:06:28,000 GIVE THE PRESS A BRIEFING IN 218 00:06:27,666 --> 00:06:29,600 ADVANCE. 219 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,000 I WOULD SAY THE RESPONSE FROM 220 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,000 THE LEADERSHIP, THE REPUBLICAN 221 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,300 LEADERSHIP IN THE HOUSE AND 222 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,033 SENATE WAS LUKEWARM. 223 00:06:33,300 --> 00:06:37,233 THEY JUST APPEARED POLITE BUT 224 00:06:36,033 --> 00:06:38,933 UNENTHUSED ABOUT SOME OF HIS 225 00:06:37,233 --> 00:06:41,066 PROPOSALS AND THOUGHT THEY WERE 226 00:06:38,933 --> 00:06:41,933 OVERLY AMBITIOUS AND DID 227 00:06:41,066 --> 00:06:44,200 COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TRANSFERS 228 00:06:41,933 --> 00:06:44,533 THAT IT RELIES ON TO SOME 229 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:45,200 EXTENT. 230 00:06:44,533 --> 00:06:47,233 >> Bill: LET'S HEAR JUST A 231 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,733 LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. 232 00:06:47,233 --> 00:06:50,133 REPUBLICANS EXPRESSED 233 00:06:48,733 --> 00:06:51,533 FRUSTRATION THAT THEY DIDN'T 234 00:06:50,133 --> 00:06:52,766 KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE GOVERNOR'S 235 00:06:51,533 --> 00:06:55,500 SPENDING PLAN UNTIL AFTER 236 00:06:52,766 --> 00:06:56,500 REPORTERS DID AND AFTER THE 237 00:06:55,500 --> 00:06:57,166 SPEECH WAS GIVEN. 238 00:06:56,500 --> 00:06:59,100 THEY QUESTIONED SOME OF THE 239 00:06:57,166 --> 00:07:01,166 NUMBERS AND KET'S RENEE SHAW GOT 240 00:06:59,100 --> 00:07:02,733 REACTION FROM SPEAKER OSBORNE 241 00:07:01,166 --> 00:07:05,900 AND SENATE PRESIDENT STIVERS. 242 00:07:02,733 --> 00:07:09,333 >> WELL APPARENTLY WE ARE MORE 243 00:07:05,900 --> 00:07:10,866 FLUSH WITH CASH THAN WE POSSIBLY 244 00:07:09,333 --> 00:07:12,200 IMAGINED WE WERE COMING INTO IT, 245 00:07:10,866 --> 00:07:14,166 BUT, LOOK AT THIS POINT IN TIME 246 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,466 I BELIEVE THAT IT'S -- IT'S NOW 247 00:07:14,166 --> 00:07:18,300 TIME TO GET DOWN TO WORK, AND 248 00:07:16,466 --> 00:07:21,500 TRULY DIG INTO THESE NUMBERS, 249 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:22,466 TRY TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT 250 00:07:21,500 --> 00:07:27,266 HE HAS JUST PROMISED. 251 00:07:22,466 --> 00:07:28,233 >> THIS WAS ALL PUPPIES DOGS AND 252 00:07:27,266 --> 00:07:29,733 RAINBOWS -- PIP DOGS AND 253 00:07:28,233 --> 00:07:31,666 RAINBOWS BUT IT IS NOW TYPE AND 254 00:07:29,733 --> 00:07:33,300 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAUGHT MY 255 00:07:31,666 --> 00:07:34,700 EYE IS HE'S GOING TO USE 256 00:07:33,300 --> 00:07:36,300 ONE-TIME DOLLARS FROM 257 00:07:34,700 --> 00:07:36,700 SETTLEMENTS TO BOLSTER THIS 258 00:07:36,300 --> 00:07:37,600 BUDGET. 259 00:07:36,700 --> 00:07:39,133 HOW MUCH IS THAT? 260 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,833 THAT'S A STRUCTURAL IMBALANCE 261 00:07:39,133 --> 00:07:41,933 USING ONE-TIME DOLLARS TO FIRE 262 00:07:40,833 --> 00:07:43,066 RECURRING EXPENSES. 263 00:07:41,933 --> 00:07:44,966 >> Bill: ALL RIGHT. 264 00:07:43,066 --> 00:07:47,366 THERE'S SOME FRANKFORT TERMS 265 00:07:44,966 --> 00:07:50,600 FLOWING OUT THERE. 266 00:07:47,366 --> 00:07:50,966 STRUCTURAL IMBALANCE AND FUND 267 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,733 TRANSFERS. 268 00:07:50,966 --> 00:07:55,433 >> John: THERE'S A LITTLE BIT 269 00:07:52,733 --> 00:07:57,366 OF DISINGENUOUS TALK THERE. 270 00:07:55,433 --> 00:07:59,633 SENATOR STIVERS IS RIGHT THAT 271 00:07:57,366 --> 00:08:02,833 IT'S STRUCTURALLY IMBALANCED 272 00:07:59,633 --> 00:08:04,233 WHEN IT'S A NOT RECURRING. 273 00:08:02,833 --> 00:08:04,733 ON THE OTHER HAND THEY ADO 274 00:08:04,233 --> 00:08:06,566 THAT. 275 00:08:04,733 --> 00:08:09,166 SENATE AND HOUSE SIGNED OFF FOR 276 00:08:06,566 --> 00:08:10,400 IT FOR GOVERNOR BEVIN FROM THEIR 277 00:08:09,166 --> 00:08:11,600 OWN PARTY AND GOVERNOR STEVE 278 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,733 BESHEAR BEFORE. 279 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,333 THERE'S SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS, 280 00:08:13,733 --> 00:08:17,333 AGAIN, IN FUND TRANSFERS AND 281 00:08:15,333 --> 00:08:18,333 OTHER MONEY THEY GRABBED IN 282 00:08:17,333 --> 00:08:20,533 GOVERNOR BESHEAR'S BUDGET. 283 00:08:18,333 --> 00:08:22,166 THERE WAS TWICE THAT, MORE THAN 284 00:08:20,533 --> 00:08:23,766 $600 MILLION IN FUND TRANSFERS 285 00:08:22,166 --> 00:08:24,766 IN EACH OF GOVERNOR BEVIN'S 286 00:08:23,766 --> 00:08:25,800 BUDGETS WHICH THE LEGISLATURE 287 00:08:24,766 --> 00:08:27,300 SIGNED OFF ON. 288 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,800 SO IF YOU THINK FUND TRANSFERS 289 00:08:27,300 --> 00:08:30,700 ARE A BAD IDEA, THIS IS ONLY 290 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,566 HALF AS BAD OF AN IDEA AS THEY 291 00:08:30,700 --> 00:08:34,266 WERE UNDER GOVERNOR BEVIN. 292 00:08:32,566 --> 00:08:35,600 >> Bill: IS THE FUND TRANSFER 293 00:08:34,266 --> 00:08:38,166 ANY MORE COMPLICATED THAN IF 294 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:41,700 THERE IS A $100,000 ALLOCATION 295 00:08:38,166 --> 00:08:43,700 ON A LINE AND $50,000 WAS SPENT, 296 00:08:41,700 --> 00:08:44,900 THAT THE OTHER $50,000 IS -- 297 00:08:43,700 --> 00:08:46,033 >> John: WE'VE GOT SOMETHING 298 00:08:44,900 --> 00:08:47,366 CALLED THE PETROLEUM STORAGE 299 00:08:46,033 --> 00:08:49,533 TANK REMOVAL FUND, AND I MAY 300 00:08:47,366 --> 00:08:50,766 HAVE IT A LITTLE BIT WRONG BUT 301 00:08:49,533 --> 00:08:51,933 THESE ARE THE UNDERGROUND GAS 302 00:08:50,766 --> 00:08:55,833 TANKS A GAS STATIONS. 303 00:08:51,933 --> 00:08:56,733 THEY LEAK LEAD, BENZENE, THE 304 00:08:55,833 --> 00:08:57,533 OTHER TOXIC ELSE CHEMICAL INTO 305 00:08:56,733 --> 00:08:58,900 THE ENVIRONMENT. 306 00:08:57,533 --> 00:09:00,400 WE'VE GOT GET RID OF THEM. 307 00:08:58,900 --> 00:09:02,900 PROPERTY OWNERS ASKED FOR MONEY 308 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,533 FROM THE STATE TO CLEAN UP THE 309 00:09:02,900 --> 00:09:04,433 SOIL. 310 00:09:03,533 --> 00:09:06,133 IT'S A SERIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL 311 00:09:04,433 --> 00:09:07,733 PROBLEM AND WE'VE GOT A BIG I 312 00:09:06,133 --> 00:09:09,166 POT OF MONEY TO DO IT. 313 00:09:07,733 --> 00:09:10,366 EVERY BUDGET CYCLE WE RAID THAT 314 00:09:09,166 --> 00:09:11,466 FUND TO BALANCE THE GENERAL 315 00:09:10,366 --> 00:09:12,733 FUND, AND THIS IS A REAL THING 316 00:09:11,466 --> 00:09:14,500 BECAUSE THAT MONEY WAS SUPPOSED 317 00:09:12,733 --> 00:09:14,833 TO GO FOR ENVIRONMENTAL 318 00:09:14,500 --> 00:09:17,400 CLEANUP. 319 00:09:14,833 --> 00:09:20,433 BUT THE MONEY WAS SITTING THERE, 320 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:23,066 AND SO WE USED IT TO BALANCE THE 321 00:09:20,433 --> 00:09:25,866 BUDGET, TO DO GOOD STUFF FOR 322 00:09:23,066 --> 00:09:27,166 SCHOOLS, DO GOOD STUFF FOR 323 00:09:25,866 --> 00:09:29,400 PARKS, DO STUFF FOR PRISONS THAT 324 00:09:27,166 --> 00:09:30,700 E. THAT WE NEED TO DO. 325 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,100 WAS THE MONEY JUST SITTING 326 00:09:30,700 --> 00:09:31,366 THERE? 327 00:09:31,100 --> 00:09:32,300 YES. 328 00:09:31,366 --> 00:09:34,666 DID IT HAVE ANOTHER PURPOSE THAT 329 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:35,633 WE WANTED TO ADDRESS? 330 00:09:34,666 --> 00:09:36,933 YES. 331 00:09:35,633 --> 00:09:38,666 AND YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY DOZENS 332 00:09:36,933 --> 00:09:40,166 OF BANKING ACCOUNTS THROUGHOUT 333 00:09:38,666 --> 00:09:41,066 STATE AGENCIES AND THOSE ARE 334 00:09:40,166 --> 00:09:42,266 FUND TRANSFERS. 335 00:09:41,066 --> 00:09:43,100 >> Bill: LET'S TALK ABOUT THE 336 00:09:42,266 --> 00:09:44,900 EVER REVENUE. 337 00:09:43,100 --> 00:09:46,933 THERE WOULD BE IN THE BESHEAR 338 00:09:44,900 --> 00:09:47,233 BUDGET AN INCREASE OH CIGARETTE 339 00:09:46,933 --> 00:09:48,733 TAXES. 340 00:09:47,233 --> 00:09:49,933 >> Deborah: YES, HE'S 341 00:09:48,733 --> 00:09:51,400 PROPOSING A 10 CHRISTIANITY PACK 342 00:09:49,933 --> 00:09:52,766 INCREASE ON CIGARETTES, WHICH IS 343 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:56,066 PRETTY MODEST. 344 00:09:52,766 --> 00:09:57,500 IT WENT UP 50 CENTS TWO YEARS 345 00:09:56,066 --> 00:09:58,700 AGO, I BELIEVE. 346 00:09:57,500 --> 00:10:01,033 THE ADVOCATES HAD ARGUED FOR A 347 00:09:58,700 --> 00:10:02,333 DOLLAR A PACK SAYING THAT WOULD 348 00:10:01,033 --> 00:10:04,433 DISCOURAGE SPOKE SMOKING AND 349 00:10:02,333 --> 00:10:06,366 BRING IN MORE REVENUE P THEY 350 00:10:04,433 --> 00:10:08,166 SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE AND GOT 50 351 00:10:06,366 --> 00:10:10,500 CENTS CENTS A PACK. 352 00:10:08,166 --> 00:10:12,000 HE'S ALSO PROPOSING A TAX ON 353 00:10:10,500 --> 00:10:14,166 VAPING PRODUCTS SOMEWHAT LESS 354 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,533 THAN WHAT REPRESENTATIVE JEREME 355 00:10:14,166 --> 00:10:15,900 MILLER OF LOUISVILLE HAS 356 00:10:15,533 --> 00:10:16,933 SUGGESTED. 357 00:10:15,900 --> 00:10:18,533 AND ADVOCATES ARE REALLY, 358 00:10:16,933 --> 00:10:20,400 REALLY, REALLY, THEN WANT A 359 00:10:18,533 --> 00:10:23,066 VAPING TAX BECAUSE THEY SAY THIS 360 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,600 WILL DISCOURAGE YOUTHS FROM THIS 361 00:10:23,066 --> 00:10:26,200 EXPLOSION OF VAPING AMONG YOUTHS 362 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,600 WHO ARE NOW GETTING ADDICTED TO 363 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,733 NICOTINE BECAUSE THAT'S PRODUCTS 364 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,033 ARE FARRELL FAIRLY CHEAP AND 365 00:10:29,733 --> 00:10:33,200 EASILY ACCESSIBLE. 366 00:10:32,033 --> 00:10:34,666 SO. 367 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,933 THERE IS NO EXCISE TAX ON THEM 368 00:10:34,666 --> 00:10:36,366 NOW. 369 00:10:34,933 --> 00:10:37,100 THAT ESCAPED THE BUDGET SOMEHOW 370 00:10:36,366 --> 00:10:38,800 LAST TIME AROUND. 371 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:40,500 SO THEY WANT TO ADD THAT AND 372 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,833 THAT WOULD BRING IN MORE 373 00:10:40,500 --> 00:10:41,500 REVENUE. 374 00:10:40,833 --> 00:10:44,000 >> Bill: SPORTS BETTING IS 375 00:10:41,500 --> 00:10:45,633 PART OF THE REVENUE SIDE, AND 376 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,733 ONE SOURCE TOLD ME TODAY THAT 377 00:10:45,633 --> 00:10:48,966 SUPPORTERS ARE STILL TRYING TO 378 00:10:47,733 --> 00:10:52,566 LINE UP REPUBLICAN VOTES IN THE 379 00:10:48,966 --> 00:10:53,366 HOUSE TO TRY TO GET THAT PASSED 380 00:10:52,566 --> 00:10:55,133 ALONG WITH SOME DEMOCRATS. 381 00:10:53,366 --> 00:10:56,733 IS THAT GOING TO GET THROUGH 382 00:10:55,133 --> 00:10:57,833 BOTH CHAMBERS? 383 00:10:56,733 --> 00:10:58,633 >> Marcus: THAT IS ONE OF THE 384 00:10:57,833 --> 00:11:01,200 BIGGEST QUESTIONS OF THIS 385 00:10:58,633 --> 00:11:02,700 SESSION SO FAR, IS WHAT ARE THE 386 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,300 PROSPECTS FOR THIS SPORTS 387 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:05,533 GAMBLING BILL. 388 00:11:04,300 --> 00:11:06,966 IT SAILED OUT OF COMMITTEE BUT 389 00:11:05,533 --> 00:11:08,133 JUST THIS WEEK THE FAMILY 390 00:11:06,966 --> 00:11:09,566 FOUNDATION DECLARED THE BILL IN 391 00:11:08,133 --> 00:11:10,466 TROUBLE, AND THERE IS A QUESTION 392 00:11:09,566 --> 00:11:11,900 ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT DOES 393 00:11:10,466 --> 00:11:13,266 HAVE LEGS GOING FORWARD, AND THE 394 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:15,200 GOVERNOR IS COUNTING THAT 395 00:11:13,266 --> 00:11:17,533 REVENUE AS PART OF HIS REVENUE 396 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,600 PLAN FOR THIS BUDGET. 397 00:11:17,533 --> 00:11:21,533 HE'S COUNTING SOME THINGS THAT 398 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,433 HE KNOWS HE HAS SOME REPUBLICAN 399 00:11:21,533 --> 00:11:25,366 SUPPORT FOR. 400 00:11:22,433 --> 00:11:25,866 AT LEAST REPUBLICANS SUPPORT 401 00:11:25,366 --> 00:11:28,266 SPORTS BETTING. 402 00:11:25,866 --> 00:11:28,933 CAN IT MAKE IT OUT OF HOUSE BUT 403 00:11:28,266 --> 00:11:30,800 ALSO THE SENATE. 404 00:11:28,933 --> 00:11:32,000 >> John: THE BUDGET DEPENDS ON 405 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,333 SPORTS GAMBLING PASSING. 406 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,433 THE BUDGET DEPENDS ON THE HIGHER 407 00:11:34,333 --> 00:11:36,800 TAX ON LIMITED LIABILITY 408 00:11:36,433 --> 00:11:38,033 ENTITIES. 409 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,533 I MEAN, IF THE LEGISLATURE 410 00:11:38,033 --> 00:11:42,566 DOESN'T GO ALONG WITH SOME OF 411 00:11:40,533 --> 00:11:44,000 THESE INCREASES OR MEW SOURCES 412 00:11:42,566 --> 00:11:44,800 OF REVENUE THEN WHAT DOESN'T 413 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,900 GETS PAID FOR? 414 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,366 >> Bill: IT'S NOTABLE HE DID 415 00:11:47,900 --> 00:11:49,900 NOT PREDICATE HIS PLAN ON ANY 416 00:11:49,366 --> 00:11:51,100 MONEY FROM CASINOS. 417 00:11:49,900 --> 00:11:51,833 >> Deborah: HE WAS VERY CLEAR 418 00:11:51,100 --> 00:11:54,066 ABOUT THAT. 419 00:11:51,833 --> 00:11:54,500 HE STRONGLY EMPLOYEES HAVE IN 420 00:11:54,066 --> 00:11:55,766 CASINOS. 421 00:11:54,500 --> 00:11:56,600 HE THINKS WE'RE LOOKING MONEY 422 00:11:55,766 --> 00:11:57,800 OUT OF STATE. 423 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,500 IT WOULD BRING A LOT OF MONEY 424 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,366 BACK TO KENTUCKY. 425 00:11:59,500 --> 00:12:02,866 THE SENATE DECLARED IT DEAD ON 426 00:12:01,366 --> 00:12:03,300 ARRIVAL SO HE'S NOT PROPOSING IT 427 00:12:02,866 --> 00:12:04,166 FOR NOW. 428 00:12:03,300 --> 00:12:06,100 >> Bill: THE GOVERNOR DID 429 00:12:04,166 --> 00:12:07,500 INCLUDE THE HIRING OF 350 NEW 430 00:12:06,100 --> 00:12:10,300 SOCIAL WORKERS WHO WOULD COME IN 431 00:12:07,500 --> 00:12:13,433 TO HANDLE A HEAVY CASELOAD. 432 00:12:10,300 --> 00:12:15,466 IS THAT THE REASON -- I MEAN, IS 433 00:12:13,433 --> 00:12:17,066 BURN-OUT THE REASON WE HAVE SUCH 434 00:12:15,466 --> 00:12:18,400 DIFFICULTY APPARENTLY IN FILLING 435 00:12:17,066 --> 00:12:19,366 THOSE POSITIONS? 436 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,200 >> Deborah: I THINK THAT'S THE 437 00:12:19,366 --> 00:12:23,033 NUMBER ONE REASON. 438 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,033 WHEN OF GOVERNOR BEVIN AND HIS 439 00:12:23,033 --> 00:12:26,133 ADMINISTRATION DID GET A LITTLE 440 00:12:24,033 --> 00:12:27,733 MORE MONEY IN FOR RAISES FOR 441 00:12:26,133 --> 00:12:28,800 STATE SOCIAL WORKERS, BUT WHEN I 442 00:12:27,733 --> 00:12:30,466 TALKED TO THEM LAST YEAR FOR 443 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,466 SOME WORK I DID, THEY 444 00:12:30,466 --> 00:12:34,300 INDICATED -- I MEAN, SOME OF 445 00:12:31,466 --> 00:12:35,600 THEM ARE CARRYING CASE LOADS OF 446 00:12:34,300 --> 00:12:38,766 40, 50, 60 FAMILIES OF CHILD 447 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:40,233 ABUSE AND NEGLECT CASES. 448 00:12:38,766 --> 00:12:40,633 THE RECOMMENDED LEVEL IS 17 PER 449 00:12:40,233 --> 00:12:41,933 WORKER. 450 00:12:40,633 --> 00:12:45,066 THE STATE CLAIMS IT IS AVERAGE 451 00:12:41,933 --> 00:12:46,900 IS 19, BUT MANY OF THESE WORKERS 452 00:12:45,066 --> 00:12:48,300 TELL ME THAT THE REAL NUMBERS OF 453 00:12:46,900 --> 00:12:51,333 WAY OVER THAT DEPENDING ON WHERE 454 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:52,633 YOU WORK AND WHAT THE 455 00:12:51,333 --> 00:12:54,133 SITUATION'S LYING LINING IN YOUR 456 00:12:52,633 --> 00:12:55,633 COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE EXHAUSTED 457 00:12:54,133 --> 00:12:58,466 AND BURNED OUT. 458 00:12:55,633 --> 00:13:00,066 I HAVE TALKED TO WORKERS WHO 459 00:12:58,466 --> 00:13:01,966 WERE LEFT FOR WORK IN THE 460 00:13:00,066 --> 00:13:04,666 PRIVATE SECTOR. 461 00:13:01,966 --> 00:13:05,900 THE IN THE PAST HEAD OF SOCIAL 462 00:13:04,666 --> 00:13:07,100 SERVICES HEAD UNDER BEVIN SAID 463 00:13:05,900 --> 00:13:09,200 IT'S A REVOLVING DOOR. 464 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:11,366 >> Bill: HOW LONG WOULD IT 465 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,100 TAKE TO IDENTIFY AND HIRE AND 466 00:13:11,366 --> 00:13:14,600 TRAIN 350 NEW SOCIAL WORKERS? 467 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:15,566 >> Deborah: I THINK THAT WOULD 468 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:15,866 TAKE PROBABLY A COUPLE OF 469 00:13:15,566 --> 00:13:18,200 YEARS. 470 00:13:15,866 --> 00:13:19,400 IT TAKES MONTHS TO GET THE 471 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,900 GET THEM TO THE POINT WHERE 472 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,333 THEY'RE ABLE TO CARRY CASELOADS 473 00:13:20,900 --> 00:13:23,866 AND THEN YOU HAVE TO ASSUME 474 00:13:22,333 --> 00:13:26,733 YOU'RE NOT LOSING OTHERS AS FAST 475 00:13:23,866 --> 00:13:27,966 AS YOU BRING THE NEW ONES IN. 476 00:13:26,733 --> 00:13:29,333 >> Bill: THE GOVERNOR COULD 477 00:13:27,966 --> 00:13:30,566 NOT CRAFT A BUDGET PROPOSAL 478 00:13:29,333 --> 00:13:31,700 WITHOUT ADDING MORE MONEY FOR 479 00:13:30,566 --> 00:13:32,800 CORRECTIONS WITH THAT LARGE 480 00:13:31,700 --> 00:13:34,233 PRISON POPULATION WE HAVE. 481 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,633 WE CALLED THAT A MORAL ISSUE. 482 00:13:34,233 --> 00:13:35,933 >> JENNIFER: 483 00:13:34,633 --> 00:13:37,266 >> John: HE SAYS THE GOVERNOR 484 00:13:35,933 --> 00:13:38,200 HAD ALREADY WARNED US A COUPLE 485 00:13:37,266 --> 00:13:39,533 WEEKS AGO THAT HE'S GOING TO 486 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,466 HAVE TO ADD MORE THAN 487 00:13:39,533 --> 00:13:42,066 $100 MILLION JUST IN THE NEXT 488 00:13:40,466 --> 00:13:45,600 TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO DEAL 489 00:13:42,066 --> 00:13:46,000 WITH THE RISING INCARCERATED 490 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,200 POPULATION. 491 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,900 WE GOT ABOUT 24,000 PEOPLE 492 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,033 BEHIND BARS. 493 00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:52,033 AND WE'VE GOT SOME OLDER 494 00:13:51,033 --> 00:13:54,066 CRUMBLING STATE PRISONS. 495 00:13:52,033 --> 00:13:55,766 WE'VE GOT TWO PRIVATE PRISONS 496 00:13:54,066 --> 00:13:56,066 UNDER LEASE CONTRACT WITH THE 497 00:13:55,766 --> 00:13:57,600 STATE. 498 00:13:56,066 --> 00:13:59,900 THE GOVERNOR WOULD LOVE TO 499 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:03,000 SHRINK THAT INMATE POPULATION. 500 00:13:59,900 --> 00:14:04,300 WE CAN SAVE $12 MILLION FOR 501 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,900 EVERY 1,000 FEWER INMATES WE 502 00:14:04,300 --> 00:14:08,266 HAVE, BUT IT'S NOT UP TO HIM. 503 00:14:05,900 --> 00:14:09,733 HE DOESN'T GET TO FILE A BILL IN 504 00:14:08,266 --> 00:14:12,666 THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, SO ANY LAW 505 00:14:09,733 --> 00:14:13,866 THAT WE WOULD PASS THAT WOULD 506 00:14:12,666 --> 00:14:15,766 SOMEHOW LOOK LIKE CRIMINAL 507 00:14:13,866 --> 00:14:16,700 JUSTICE REFORM THAT WOULD 508 00:14:15,766 --> 00:14:17,800 INCARCERATE FEWER PEOPLE, THAT'S 509 00:14:16,700 --> 00:14:18,166 GOING TO BE UP TO THE GENERAL 510 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,800 ASSEMBLY. 511 00:14:18,166 --> 00:14:22,233 I MEAN, ALL HE CAN DO IS KIND OF 512 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,300 PUSH IT, USE THE BULLY PULPIT, 513 00:14:22,233 --> 00:14:25,300 AND AGAIN WE'RE STILL WAITING, 514 00:14:24,300 --> 00:14:26,766 YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING 515 00:14:25,300 --> 00:14:27,700 RIGHT NOW THAT LOOKS LIKE 516 00:14:26,766 --> 00:14:28,966 CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM COMING 517 00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:29,500 OUT OF OF THE LEGISLATURE AT 518 00:14:28,966 --> 00:14:31,366 THIS POINT. 519 00:14:29,500 --> 00:14:32,500 >> Deborah: IT WOULD BE A 520 00:14:31,366 --> 00:14:33,466 SIGNIFICANT RESTRUCTURING THINGS 521 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:36,333 LOOK THE PAROLE SYSTEM, THE 522 00:14:33,466 --> 00:14:36,633 PENAL CODE, THE REENTRY, ALL OF 523 00:14:36,333 --> 00:14:40,466 THAT. 524 00:14:36,633 --> 00:14:41,466 IT WOULD TAKE A MAJOR OVERHAUL. 525 00:14:40,466 --> 00:14:42,166 THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE 526 00:14:41,466 --> 00:14:43,400 WILL FOR THAT. 527 00:14:42,166 --> 00:14:46,300 >> John: IT WOULD. 528 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,466 THIS ISN'T SOMETHING YOU DO A 529 00:14:46,300 --> 00:14:49,100 DAY 30 OF THE 60-DAY SESSION. 530 00:14:47,466 --> 00:14:49,633 THIS IS WHAT YOU DO THE SPRING 531 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:51,333 BEFORE. 532 00:14:49,633 --> 00:14:53,033 YOU GET EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE 533 00:14:51,333 --> 00:14:54,333 AND GET THEM ONBOARD AND 534 00:14:53,033 --> 00:14:55,966 CONVINCE THEM ALL HECK ISN'T 535 00:14:54,333 --> 00:14:57,766 GOING TO BREAK LOOSE IF YOU GET 536 00:14:55,966 --> 00:14:58,500 SMARTER ABOUT HOW YOU HANDLE 537 00:14:57,766 --> 00:15:00,066 INCARCERATION. 538 00:14:58,500 --> 00:15:00,866 JUST A WAY OF EXAMPLE, BY THE 539 00:15:00,066 --> 00:15:02,366 WAY, THE THE DEPARTMENT OF 540 00:15:00,866 --> 00:15:03,133 CORRECTIONS SENT OUTS A NEWS 541 00:15:02,366 --> 00:15:05,200 RELEASE THIS EVENING SAYING IT'S 542 00:15:03,133 --> 00:15:06,600 GOING TO SHUT DOWN THE BELL 543 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,800 COUNTY JAIL BECAUSE THEIR SMOKE 544 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,266 REMOVAL SYSTEM IS UNSAFE, IT'S A 545 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,466 FIRE SAFETY THING, AND WE LOOKED 546 00:15:10,266 --> 00:15:15,366 UP THE NUMBERS OUT OF CURIOSITY, 547 00:15:12,466 --> 00:15:17,000 IT'S A 59 BED JAIL THAT'S GOT 548 00:15:15,366 --> 00:15:18,300 ABOUT 130-SOMETHING PEOPLE 549 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,300 PEOPLE. 550 00:15:18,300 --> 00:15:22,333 IT'S 200% OF CAPACITY AND IT'S 551 00:15:20,300 --> 00:15:23,233 HOLDINGS STATE INMATES SERVING 552 00:15:22,333 --> 00:15:25,033 FELONY TIME. 553 00:15:23,233 --> 00:15:26,833 THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING YEARS IN 554 00:15:25,033 --> 00:15:28,166 THE BELL COUNTY JAIL WHICH HAS 555 00:15:26,833 --> 00:15:29,366 TWO AND A HALF TIMES AS MANY 556 00:15:28,166 --> 00:15:32,433 PEOPLE IN IT THAT'S GOING ON ALL 557 00:15:29,366 --> 00:15:34,200 OVER THE STATE OF KENTUCKY. 558 00:15:32,433 --> 00:15:34,933 GOVERNOR BESHEAR IS POWERLESS TO 559 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,533 STOP IT. 560 00:15:34,933 --> 00:15:37,866 >> Bill: WE TALKED ABOUT 1% 561 00:15:36,533 --> 00:15:39,066 INCREASE IN FUNDING FOR HIGHER 562 00:15:37,866 --> 00:15:41,766 EDUCATION BUT THE REGIONAL 563 00:15:39,066 --> 00:15:44,366 UNIVERSITIES AND THESE 564 00:15:41,766 --> 00:15:46,500 QUASI-GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES ALL 565 00:15:44,366 --> 00:15:47,800 FACE PENSION SITUATIONS AND BIG 566 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:49,000 DECISIONS RIGHT NOW AND SOME BIG 567 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,600 NUMBERS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO 568 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,366 WORK WITH. 569 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,033 >> Deborah: YOU'RE TALKING 570 00:15:50,366 --> 00:15:53,766 ABOUT EVERYTHING FROM A MAJOR 571 00:15:52,033 --> 00:15:56,233 REGIONAL UNIVERSITIES ON DOWN TO 572 00:15:53,766 --> 00:15:57,600 LIKE THE INDIVIDUAL DOMESTIC 573 00:15:56,233 --> 00:15:58,600 VIOLENCE SHELTERS AND THE 574 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,966 COMMUNITY MENTAL HEALTH 575 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,033 AGENCIES. 576 00:15:58,966 --> 00:16:02,400 OFF THEM DON'T HAVE A MAGIC WAY 577 00:16:01,033 --> 00:16:04,333 TO GO OUT AND RAISE MONEY. 578 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,733 THEY RELY ON THEIR STATE MONEY, 579 00:16:04,333 --> 00:16:06,100 WHATEVER THEY CAN BILL FOR 580 00:16:05,733 --> 00:16:07,033 SERVICES. 581 00:16:06,100 --> 00:16:10,066 >> John: THEY WERE LOOKING A 582 00:16:07,033 --> 00:16:12,266 JUMP FROM 49% OF THEIR PAYROLL 583 00:16:10,066 --> 00:16:14,433 AS A PENSION CONTRIBUTION RATE 584 00:16:12,266 --> 00:16:15,133 TO 93% CAN WHEN CHARITABLE 585 00:16:14,433 --> 00:16:15,933 ORGANIZATIONS A LOT OF COUNTY 586 00:16:15,133 --> 00:16:18,100 HEALTH DEPARTMENTS SAID WE'RE 587 00:16:15,933 --> 00:16:18,800 GOING TO HAVE TO CLOSE. 588 00:16:18,100 --> 00:16:19,133 WE'RE ALREADY CURRENT SERIOUS 589 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,033 JOBS. 590 00:16:19,133 --> 00:16:22,133 SO GOVERNOR BESHEAR TRIED TO 591 00:16:20,033 --> 00:16:22,466 OFFER THEM A COMPROMISE IN HIS 592 00:16:22,133 --> 00:16:25,233 BUDGET. 593 00:16:22,466 --> 00:16:26,300 HE SAID, I'LL CAP, STINNED 594 00:16:25,233 --> 00:16:29,300 SEVEN-DAY FORECAST YOU JUMPING 595 00:16:26,300 --> 00:16:29,633 FROM 49% TO 93%, I'LL MEET YOU 596 00:16:29,300 --> 00:16:31,833 HALFWAY. 597 00:16:29,633 --> 00:16:33,833 I'LL CAUGHT UP 67% OF YOUR 598 00:16:31,833 --> 00:16:35,466 PAYROLL WHICH IS STILL VERY 599 00:16:33,833 --> 00:16:36,466 HEFTY, AND I'LL THROW IN A 600 00:16:35,466 --> 00:16:37,566 LITTLE EXTRA. 601 00:16:36,466 --> 00:16:39,400 SO KENTUCKY RETIREMENT SYSTEMS 602 00:16:37,566 --> 00:16:43,500 WON'T GET THE 93% BUT IT WILL 603 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:44,400 GET THE 84 CONTRIBUTION RATE. 604 00:16:43,500 --> 00:16:46,233 IT'S A LOT OF NUMBERS. 605 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,833 I KNOW IT'S COMPLICATED. 606 00:16:46,233 --> 00:16:48,966 ESSENTIALLY I WILL SUBSIDIZE THE 607 00:16:47,833 --> 00:16:52,966 REGIONAL UNIVERSITIES AND THESE 608 00:16:48,966 --> 00:16:55,233 COUNTY DEPARTMENTS, THESE OTHER 609 00:16:52,966 --> 00:16:56,100 SO-CALLED QUASI-USUALLY 610 00:16:55,233 --> 00:16:57,600 GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES. 611 00:16:56,100 --> 00:16:59,600 THAT'S MY WAY OF HELPING YOU. 612 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,800 THE DOWNSIDE AS WE DISCOVERED 613 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,033 THURSDAY, THE KENTUCKY 614 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,733 RETIREMENT SYSTEM'S DIRECTOR 615 00:17:02,033 --> 00:17:04,700 TESTIFIED AND SAID THAT MEANS 616 00:17:03,733 --> 00:17:06,233 WE'RE GOING TO BE SHORT TENS OF 617 00:17:04,700 --> 00:17:06,600 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WE WERE 618 00:17:06,233 --> 00:17:08,366 EXPECTING. 619 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,866 THAT MEANS YOU'RE NOT MAKING THE 620 00:17:08,366 --> 00:17:10,466 FULL PENSION PAYMENT YOU SAID 621 00:17:09,866 --> 00:17:13,400 WERE YOU MAKING. 622 00:17:10,466 --> 00:17:14,700 THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HEMMED AND 623 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,033 HUD WITH US WHEN HE ASKED HIM. 624 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:16,700 THAT'S RIGHT. 625 00:17:16,033 --> 00:17:19,266 WE'LL BE $25 MILLION SHORT A 626 00:17:16,700 --> 00:17:20,233 YEAR OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS, 627 00:17:19,266 --> 00:17:22,100 $50 MILLION TOTAL. 628 00:17:20,233 --> 00:17:23,166 >> Bill: BUT ALSO MINUTES OUT 629 00:17:22,100 --> 00:17:23,466 HE'S PUTTING MORE MONEY INTO 630 00:17:23,166 --> 00:17:24,300 IT. 631 00:17:23,466 --> 00:17:25,300 >> John: YEAH, IT'S BETTER 632 00:17:24,300 --> 00:17:26,800 THAN IT WAS THIS YEAR. 633 00:17:25,300 --> 00:17:28,433 SO IT'S $50 MILLION SHORT OVER 634 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,133 TWO YEARS, BUT IN THE GOVERNOR'S 635 00:17:28,433 --> 00:17:32,333 DEFENSE, IF WE ASK THESE QUASIS 636 00:17:31,133 --> 00:17:33,600 TO GIVE EVERYTHING, SOME OF THEM 637 00:17:32,333 --> 00:17:35,533 ARE JUST GOING TO COLLAPSE, SO 638 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,766 THIS IS A NO-WIN SCENARIO. 639 00:17:35,533 --> 00:17:40,500 >> Bill: TRANSPORTATION. 640 00:17:36,766 --> 00:17:42,500 MARCUS, ISSUES WERE MENTIONED. 641 00:17:40,500 --> 00:17:44,033 WERE THEY CONFRONTED HEAD-ON 642 00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:44,733 UNDER THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN? 643 00:17:44,033 --> 00:17:46,133 >> Marcus: WELL, THE GOVERNOR 644 00:17:44,733 --> 00:17:48,233 DID RELEASE HIS HIGHWAY PLAN. 645 00:17:46,133 --> 00:17:49,000 THIS IS THE MAIN ROAD SPENDING 646 00:17:48,233 --> 00:17:51,666 DOCUMENT. 647 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,500 IT NOW IS GOING TO GO INTO THE 648 00:17:51,666 --> 00:17:54,300 LEGISLATURE FOR THEIR TAKE AND 649 00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:56,200 ULTIMATELY CRAFT SOMETHING THAT 650 00:17:54,300 --> 00:17:57,200 WILL GOVERNING HOW THE NEXT 651 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,833 COUPLE OF YEARS GO. 652 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,200 BUT THE BIG QUESTION, I THINK, 653 00:17:58,833 --> 00:18:01,900 FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE IS WHAT IS 654 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,833 GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE GAS TAX 655 00:18:01,900 --> 00:18:04,633 AND WHETHER OR NOT THE 656 00:18:02,833 --> 00:18:06,033 LEGISLATURE OR THE GOVERNOR WILL 657 00:18:04,633 --> 00:18:07,933 COME OUT IN SUPPORT OF RAISING 658 00:18:06,033 --> 00:18:09,866 THE GAS TAX AND DOING OTHER 659 00:18:07,933 --> 00:18:11,166 TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION 660 00:18:09,866 --> 00:18:13,466 MODERNIZATIONS, AS IT'S CALLED, 661 00:18:11,166 --> 00:18:14,800 CHANGING THE MAIN FORMULA THAT 662 00:18:13,466 --> 00:18:16,300 ADDRESSES HOW RURAL AND URBAN 663 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,500 AREAS GET THEIR FUNDING. 664 00:18:16,300 --> 00:18:20,400 THE GOVERNOR'S NOT COME OUT AND 665 00:18:17,500 --> 00:18:22,466 TAKEN A POSITION ON THE GAS TAX, 666 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,433 AND I THINK THE ELEPHANT IN THE 667 00:18:22,466 --> 00:18:24,833 ROOM RIGHT NOW IS A BILL, SENATE 668 00:18:23,433 --> 00:18:27,566 BILL 4 WHICH IS A BILL THAT 669 00:18:24,833 --> 00:18:28,566 WOULD OVERHAUL HOW THE GOVERNOR 670 00:18:27,566 --> 00:18:28,933 APPOINTS A TRANSPORTATION 671 00:18:28,566 --> 00:18:32,600 SECRETARY. 672 00:18:28,933 --> 00:18:34,800 THIS IS BALE SPONSORED BY 673 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,300 SENATOR STIVERS AND 674 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,733 SENATOR ERNIE HARRIS, 675 00:18:36,300 --> 00:18:39,433 SENATOR JIMMY HIGDON. 676 00:18:37,733 --> 00:18:40,833 THIS BILL WOULD ESSENTIALLY 677 00:18:39,433 --> 00:18:42,433 CREATE A BOARD CALLED THE 678 00:18:40,833 --> 00:18:44,066 TRANSPORTATION BOARD, AND THAT 679 00:18:42,433 --> 00:18:45,300 BOARD WOULD PRODUCE NOMINATIONS 680 00:18:44,066 --> 00:18:47,600 AND THE GOVERNOR WOULD HAVE TO 681 00:18:45,300 --> 00:18:48,300 CHOOSE AMONG THOSE NOMINEES WHO 682 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,400 THE TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY 683 00:18:48,300 --> 00:18:51,133 WOULD BE, AND THAT BOARD WOULD 684 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,733 ALSO HAVE CONTROL OVER THE FIRST 685 00:18:51,133 --> 00:18:53,733 DRAFT OF THE HIGHWAY PLAN. 686 00:18:52,733 --> 00:18:54,533 SO ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE GOING 687 00:18:53,733 --> 00:18:56,033 TO HAVE TO PLAY OUT. 688 00:18:54,533 --> 00:18:57,800 WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHERE THIS 689 00:18:56,033 --> 00:19:01,066 BILL GOES, BUT THE GOVERNOR'S 690 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:04,766 PLAN AS IT STANDS REALLY 691 00:19:01,066 --> 00:19:05,500 EMPHASIZE HEADS RURAL ROADS, I. 692 00:19:04,766 --> 00:19:07,000 EMPHASIZES GUARDRAILS AND STATE 693 00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:08,000 OF REPAIRS, THE MOUNTAIN 694 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,933 EXPANSION IN EASTERN KENTUCKY 695 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,566 AND PROVIDES MONEY FOR THE I69 696 00:19:11,933 --> 00:19:13,733 BRIDGE BETWEEN COMMANDERS 697 00:19:12,566 --> 00:19:14,033 EVANSVILLE, INDIANA, TO CONTINUE 698 00:19:13,733 --> 00:19:15,633 ALONG. 699 00:19:14,033 --> 00:19:17,366 IT DOESN'T FUND IT BUT IT ALLOWS 700 00:19:15,633 --> 00:19:18,266 IT TO CONTINUE TOWARDS 701 00:19:17,366 --> 00:19:20,300 ULTIMATELY A FINANCING PLAN 702 00:19:18,266 --> 00:19:22,266 THAT'LL ALLOW THAT PROJECT TO 703 00:19:20,300 --> 00:19:23,100 MOVE FORWARD. 704 00:19:22,266 --> 00:19:24,100 >> Bill: AND AS MUCH AS WANT 705 00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:25,766 HAD TO PLAN TRANSPORTATION 706 00:19:24,100 --> 00:19:26,900 PROJECTS THINGSING HAPPEN. 707 00:19:25,766 --> 00:19:29,833 CELLULAR EARLIER THIS WEEK WE 708 00:19:26,900 --> 00:19:31,766 DIDN'T KNOW WHEN THE I275 BARGE 709 00:19:29,833 --> 00:19:33,300 WAS STRUCK BY A BARGE ON THE 710 00:19:31,766 --> 00:19:33,566 WHOA RIVER WHAT EXPENSE WILL 711 00:19:33,300 --> 00:19:35,366 BE. 712 00:19:33,566 --> 00:19:37,200 FORTUNATELY THAT WAS MINIMAL. 713 00:19:35,366 --> 00:19:38,866 BUT WE HAD THE SITUATION IN 714 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,466 LOUISVILLE A LITTLE BAG, THE 715 00:19:38,866 --> 00:19:41,766 FERRY BRIDGE. 716 00:19:39,466 --> 00:19:42,266 YOU CAN HAVE AN EARTHQUAKE 717 00:19:41,766 --> 00:19:45,066 SITUATION. 718 00:19:42,266 --> 00:19:45,366 TRANSPORTATION COSTS CAN QUICKLY 719 00:19:45,066 --> 00:19:45,866 RISE. 720 00:19:45,366 --> 00:19:48,066 >> Marcus: RIGHT. 721 00:19:45,866 --> 00:19:49,266 AND AGAINST THAT BACKDROP IS A 722 00:19:48,066 --> 00:19:52,000 MAJOR NEW CHANGE THIS FISCAL 723 00:19:49,266 --> 00:19:53,800 YEAR WHICH IS KENTUCKY HAS LOST 724 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,866 WHAT ARE CALLED TOLL CREDITS. 725 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,933 THIS ISN'T REAL MONEY BUT THIS 726 00:19:54,866 --> 00:19:57,633 IS MONEY THAT THE STATE'S BEEN 727 00:19:55,933 --> 00:19:58,633 ABLE TO USE AS A MATCH FOR 728 00:19:57,633 --> 00:20:01,000 FEDERAL PROJECTS IN THE PAST, 729 00:19:58,633 --> 00:20:01,333 AND THAT MONEY HAS FINALLY 730 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,400 DRAPED. 731 00:20:01,333 --> 00:20:08,400 KENTUCKY'S A LAMONT HAS DRAPED. 732 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:10,133 NOW KENTUCKY IS GOING OVER USE 733 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,433 STAGNANT FEDERAL DOLLARS FOR ITS 734 00:20:10,133 --> 00:20:11,433 MATCH. 735 00:20:10,433 --> 00:20:13,866 >> Bill: ARE WE GOING TO MAKE 736 00:20:11,433 --> 00:20:16,000 THE ON THE REAL IDs BY THIS 737 00:20:13,866 --> 00:20:16,766 NEW DEADLINE OF THIS YEAR? 738 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,366 >> Marcus: I ONLY GET THAT 739 00:20:16,766 --> 00:20:19,300 QUESTION ABOUT 500 TIMES A DAY, 740 00:20:18,366 --> 00:20:21,000 SO RIGHT NOW THE STATE DOES HAVE 741 00:20:19,300 --> 00:20:22,833 TO GET IT DONE BY OCTOBER THE 742 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,033 1st AND THE TRANSPORTATION 743 00:20:22,833 --> 00:20:25,900 CABINET IS OVERSEEING THAT 744 00:20:25,033 --> 00:20:26,566 ROLL-OUT. 745 00:20:25,900 --> 00:20:28,600 I DON'T KNOW WHEN JEFFERSON 746 00:20:26,566 --> 00:20:29,666 COUNTY IS GOING TO GET THEIRS. 747 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,766 >> Bill: LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME 748 00:20:29,666 --> 00:20:32,366 OTHER OFF-THE-BUDGET TOPICS A 749 00:20:31,766 --> 00:20:33,500 BIT. 750 00:20:32,366 --> 00:20:35,700 DEBBIE, THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS 751 00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:36,733 WANT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF 752 00:20:35,700 --> 00:20:37,600 WORKFORCE PARTICIPATION WHERE 753 00:20:36,733 --> 00:20:38,933 KENTUCKY RANKS VERY LOW. 754 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,733 >> Deborah: YEAH, THAT'S AN 755 00:20:38,933 --> 00:20:40,733 INTERESTING STATISTIC. 756 00:20:39,733 --> 00:20:42,033 WE DO RANK LOW. 757 00:20:40,733 --> 00:20:43,466 ON THE OTHER HAND, AS FOLKS ON 758 00:20:42,033 --> 00:20:45,966 THE OTHER SIDE WILL POINT OUT, 759 00:20:43,466 --> 00:20:48,166 IT HAS TO DO WITH NUMBER OF 760 00:20:45,966 --> 00:20:48,866 ELDERLY, DISABLED, AND AGING 761 00:20:48,166 --> 00:20:50,500 POPULATION, AND AS WELL AS 762 00:20:48,866 --> 00:20:50,800 STUDENTS AND OTHERS WHO CAN'T 763 00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:52,600 WORK. 764 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,233 BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON WE DO 765 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,666 HAVE A LOWER WORKFORCE 766 00:20:54,233 --> 00:20:55,833 PARTICIPATION. 767 00:20:54,666 --> 00:20:57,533 THEY'D LIKE TO SEE MORE IN. 768 00:20:55,833 --> 00:21:00,333 SO THEY CAME UP WITH HOUSE 769 00:20:57,533 --> 00:21:01,333 BILL 1 WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO 770 00:21:00,333 --> 00:21:03,333 PROVIDE SUPPORTS AND 771 00:21:01,333 --> 00:21:04,866 ENCOURAGEMENT FOR PEOPLE TO GET 772 00:21:03,333 --> 00:21:06,866 INTO THE WORKFORCE. 773 00:21:04,866 --> 00:21:09,100 THIS FOLLOWS A YEAR-LONG OR 774 00:21:06,866 --> 00:21:10,300 SIX-MONTH SERIES OF MEETINGS ON 775 00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:11,500 THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE REFORM 776 00:21:10,300 --> 00:21:12,800 TASK FORCE THEY CREATED WHICH 777 00:21:11,500 --> 00:21:14,700 THEY HEARD FROM FOLKS ALL OVER 778 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,633 THE STATE, AND I THINK WERE 779 00:21:14,700 --> 00:21:17,133 SURPRISED TO REALIZE THAT A LOT 780 00:21:15,633 --> 00:21:19,033 OF PEOPLE WERE WORKING BUT ARE 781 00:21:17,133 --> 00:21:20,466 IN SITUATIONS WHERE THEY CAN'T 782 00:21:19,033 --> 00:21:21,666 WORK MORE HOURS OR THEY LOSE 783 00:21:20,466 --> 00:21:22,966 THEIR FOOD STAMPS OR THEY LOSE 784 00:21:21,666 --> 00:21:24,300 THEIR HEALTH CARE, AND SO THIS 785 00:21:22,966 --> 00:21:25,966 BILL ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS WHAT'S 786 00:21:24,300 --> 00:21:27,000 CALLED THE BENEFITS CLIFF SO YOU 787 00:21:25,966 --> 00:21:28,200 DON'T FALL OFF THE CLIFF AS SOON 788 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,833 AS YOU MAKE A LITTLE MORE MONEY 789 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,933 OR TAKE A BETTER JOB. 790 00:21:29,833 --> 00:21:32,733 >> Bill: THAT'S THE PRIORITY 791 00:21:30,933 --> 00:21:35,433 BILL IN THE HOUSE. 792 00:21:32,733 --> 00:21:36,066 JOHN, KENTUCKY HOUSE VOTED TO 793 00:21:35,433 --> 00:21:38,266 STRENGTHEN THE LEGISLATIVE 794 00:21:36,066 --> 00:21:38,666 ETHICS CODE BY ADDING SEXUAL 795 00:21:38,266 --> 00:21:39,100 HARASSMENT. 796 00:21:38,666 --> 00:21:41,000 >> John: YES. 797 00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:42,133 THIS IS THE BILL BY 798 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,933 REPRESENTATIVE KIMBERLY MOSER. 799 00:21:42,133 --> 00:21:44,933 IT CAME OUT OF YOU THE HOUSE 800 00:21:43,933 --> 00:21:45,533 TODAY. 801 00:21:44,933 --> 00:21:46,166 THE LEGISLATIVE ETHICS 802 00:21:45,533 --> 00:21:48,266 COMMISSION WOULD GET THE 803 00:21:46,166 --> 00:21:50,400 AUTHORITY TO OVERSEE CASES OF 804 00:21:48,266 --> 00:21:51,466 SEXUAL DISCRIMINATION, SEXUAL 805 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,366 HARASSMENT INVOLVING LAWMAKERS, 806 00:21:51,466 --> 00:21:53,700 MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATIVE STAFF 807 00:21:52,366 --> 00:21:54,300 AND BE LOBBYISTS, AS I 808 00:21:53,700 --> 00:21:56,933 UNDERSTAND IT. 809 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:58,233 THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO THE HOUSE 810 00:21:56,933 --> 00:22:01,733 SEXUAL HARASSMENT SCANDAL WE SAW 811 00:21:58,233 --> 00:22:03,333 A FEW YEARS AGO UNFORTUNATELY. 812 00:22:01,733 --> 00:22:04,800 AND IT GOES TO THE SENATE NOW 813 00:22:03,333 --> 00:22:06,066 FOR ACTION THERE. 814 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,166 >> Bill: THE HEMP INDUSTRY HAS 815 00:22:06,066 --> 00:22:11,600 HAD A LOT TO CELEBRATE IN RECENT 816 00:22:08,166 --> 00:22:13,400 YEARS, INCLUDING THE NATIONWIDE 817 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,100 LEGALIZATION, WHICH WAS REALLY 818 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,433 THE PUSH WAS STARTED HERE IN 819 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:17,933 KENTUCKY, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN 820 00:22:16,433 --> 00:22:19,233 THERE ARE SOME REAL CONCERNS 821 00:22:17,933 --> 00:22:19,600 ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE 822 00:22:19,233 --> 00:22:20,133 INDUSTRY. 823 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,266 >> John: THERE ARE. 824 00:22:20,133 --> 00:22:24,500 WE HAD TWO COMPANIES, JENN 825 00:22:22,266 --> 00:22:26,000 CANADA AND WINCHESTER, AND THE 826 00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:28,833 OWNER OF SUNDSTRAND IN 827 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,033 LOUISVILLE WHO BOTH WOUND UP IN 828 00:22:28,833 --> 00:22:31,533 BANKRUPTS THEY WEEK. 829 00:22:30,033 --> 00:22:33,133 DIFFERENT SETS OF PROBLEMS BUT 830 00:22:31,533 --> 00:22:34,466 BOTH CAME DOWN TO CASH FLOW 831 00:22:33,133 --> 00:22:37,466 ISSUES, DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY 832 00:22:34,466 --> 00:22:38,900 TO PAY THEIR BILLS. 833 00:22:37,466 --> 00:22:41,100 AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE AT 834 00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:44,033 THE SAME TIME THIS LAST WEEK 835 00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:48,333 GOVERNOR BESHEAR OVERSHAW GIVING 836 00:22:44,033 --> 00:22:49,666 $1 MILLION TO YET ANOTHER -- 837 00:22:48,333 --> 00:22:50,066 HEMP INDUSTRY BEEN HERE IN 838 00:22:49,666 --> 00:22:52,566 KENTUCKY. 839 00:22:50,066 --> 00:22:54,133 SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. 840 00:22:52,566 --> 00:22:55,900 BUT THE HEMP FARMERS SEEM TO BE 841 00:22:54,133 --> 00:22:58,133 SORT OF STRUGGLING TO FIND 842 00:22:55,900 --> 00:22:58,433 ENOUGH PLACES TO GIVE THEIR 843 00:22:58,133 --> 00:22:59,233 CROPS. 844 00:22:58,433 --> 00:23:00,566 WRITE-IN QUARLES, THE 845 00:22:59,233 --> 00:23:02,100 AGRICULTURE COMMISSIONER, MET 846 00:23:00,566 --> 00:23:04,333 WITH THE FDA IN WASHINGTON AND 847 00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:07,766 SORT OF BEGGED THEM TO CREATE A 848 00:23:04,333 --> 00:23:09,066 REGULATORY FRAMEWORK FOR HEMP 849 00:23:07,766 --> 00:23:10,666 PROCESSING, AND CREATE SOME 850 00:23:09,066 --> 00:23:12,266 CERTAINTY IN THIS MARKET. 851 00:23:10,666 --> 00:23:14,600 LAST NOVEMBER THE FDA HAD ISSUED 852 00:23:12,266 --> 00:23:17,766 A WARNING LETTER AND TOLD 853 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:20,566 AMERICANS YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL 854 00:23:17,766 --> 00:23:22,266 CONSUMING FDA FOOD PRODUCT, YOU 855 00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:23,766 NEED TO BE BEWARE OF THE SOME OF 856 00:23:22,266 --> 00:23:25,700 THE HYPE OF CBD THAT YOU SEE IN 857 00:23:23,766 --> 00:23:27,600 THE STORES AND ALL THE 858 00:23:25,700 --> 00:23:28,500 ADVERTISEMENTS BECAUSE THEY SAID 859 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,233 THEATRE REALLY REGULATING THIS 860 00:23:28,500 --> 00:23:31,433 AND IT'S THE WILD WEST, AND THAT 861 00:23:30,233 --> 00:23:32,933 COOLED OFF COMPANIES BIKE 862 00:23:31,433 --> 00:23:34,766 STARBUCKS AND PEPS COTHAT WERE 863 00:23:32,933 --> 00:23:36,966 THINKING OF GETTING INTO CBD AND 864 00:23:34,766 --> 00:23:39,066 GETTING INTO HEMP. 865 00:23:36,966 --> 00:23:41,000 >> Bill: LENDERS. 866 00:23:39,066 --> 00:23:42,233 >> John: IT'S EARLY DAYS FOR 867 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,733 HEMP, AND I LOT OF FARMERS ARE 868 00:23:42,233 --> 00:23:44,833 SITTING ON BIG BATCHES OF CROP 869 00:23:43,733 --> 00:23:46,566 AND HAVING A HARD TIME SELLING 870 00:23:44,833 --> 00:23:48,266 IT NOW SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO 871 00:23:46,566 --> 00:23:51,033 SEE HOW THIS SHAKES OUT. 872 00:23:48,266 --> 00:23:52,533 >> Bill: KENTUCKY BEFORE A NEW 873 00:23:51,033 --> 00:23:57,300 HEALTH INJURIES DR. STEVEN STACK 874 00:23:52,533 --> 00:23:58,033 WHO ONCEDDED UP THE AMERICAN 875 00:23:57,300 --> 00:23:58,833 HEALTH SPONTANEOUS WE HAVE HAD A 876 00:23:58,033 --> 00:24:00,100 MAJOR FLU SEASON AND 877 00:23:58,833 --> 00:24:02,333 CORONAVIRUS. 878 00:24:00,100 --> 00:24:03,233 HEAL HE'LL HAVE A LOT ON HIS 879 00:24:02,333 --> 00:24:04,133 PLATE IMMEDIATELY. 880 00:24:03,233 --> 00:24:05,633 DEBBIE, FINALLY, FINALLY THERE 881 00:24:04,133 --> 00:24:07,266 IS ENCOURAGING NEWS ABOUT 882 00:24:05,633 --> 00:24:08,966 OVERDOSE DEATHS AND EVEN AN 883 00:24:07,266 --> 00:24:10,300 INDICATION THAT AT LEAST 884 00:24:08,966 --> 00:24:12,833 NATIONALLY LIFE EXPECTANCY IS 885 00:24:10,300 --> 00:24:13,933 ONCE AGAIN STARTING TO LENGTHY. 886 00:24:12,833 --> 00:24:17,033 >> Deborah: YES, AFTER SEVERAL 887 00:24:13,933 --> 00:24:19,266 ALARMING YEARS OF DECLINE, LIFE 888 00:24:17,033 --> 00:24:21,066 EXPECTTY THEY CAME OUT WITH 889 00:24:19,266 --> 00:24:22,900 STATISTICS THIS MONTH OR LAST 890 00:24:21,066 --> 00:24:24,166 MONTH THAT CANCER DEATHS ARE 891 00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:25,633 DECREASING AND OVERDOSE DEATHS 892 00:24:24,166 --> 00:24:27,600 ARE DECREASING, WHICH IS LEADING 893 00:24:25,633 --> 00:24:29,133 TO A SLIGHT INCREASE IN LIFE 894 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,866 EXPECTANCY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 895 00:24:29,133 --> 00:24:30,866 SEVERAL YEARS. 896 00:24:29,866 --> 00:24:32,700 >> Bill: THE BESHEAR 897 00:24:30,866 --> 00:24:33,966 ADMINISTRATION HAS APPROVED 898 00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:35,166 PLANNED PARENTHOOD'S ABORTION 899 00:24:33,966 --> 00:24:35,566 CLINIC APPLICATION IN 900 00:24:35,166 --> 00:24:37,500 LOUISVILLE. 901 00:24:35,566 --> 00:24:39,300 >> Deborah: YES, THAT WAS A 902 00:24:37,500 --> 00:24:40,700 FOUR-YEAR BATTLE WITH THE BEVIN 903 00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:42,033 ADMINISTRATION WHO DECLINED TO 904 00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:43,933 APPROVE THEIR LICENSE TO PROVIDE 905 00:24:42,033 --> 00:24:45,966 ABORTIONS IN KENTUCKY, AND TODAY 906 00:24:43,933 --> 00:24:47,866 WE LENDER THE BESHEAR 907 00:24:45,966 --> 00:24:49,966 ADMINISTRATION HAS REAPPROVED 908 00:24:47,866 --> 00:24:53,166 THEIR LICENSE TO BEGIN GIVING 909 00:24:49,966 --> 00:24:54,233 ABORTIONS WHICH WOULD KENTUCKY. 910 00:24:53,166 --> 00:24:55,766 >> Bill: WE HAVE MAJOR PLAYERS 911 00:24:54,233 --> 00:24:57,466 IN WASHINGTON AND U.S. SENATOR 912 00:24:55,766 --> 00:24:59,566 MITCH McCONNELL AND SENATOR 913 00:24:57,466 --> 00:25:01,066 RAND PAUL, AND THE IMPEACHMENT 914 00:24:59,566 --> 00:25:03,366 TRIAL OF PRESIDENT TRUMP APPEARS 915 00:25:01,066 --> 00:25:05,466 TO BE HEADED TOWARD A CONCLUSION 916 00:25:03,366 --> 00:25:06,500 WEDNESDAY AT THIS POINT. 917 00:25:05,466 --> 00:25:08,800 McCONNELL HOPING TO STEER 918 00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:09,300 THINGS TO A FAST CONCLUSION 919 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,333 THERE. 920 00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:13,666 SENATOR PAUL STORMED OUT OF THE 921 00:25:11,333 --> 00:25:14,633 CHAMBER AFTER CHIEF JUSTICE JOHN 922 00:25:13,666 --> 00:25:16,366 REPORTS, DECLINED TO READ HIS 923 00:25:14,633 --> 00:25:18,566 QUESTION THAT WOULD HAVE 924 00:25:16,366 --> 00:25:18,900 REVEALED WHO THE WHISTLE BLOWER 925 00:25:18,566 --> 00:25:19,433 WAS. 926 00:25:18,900 --> 00:25:21,100 >> Deborah: TWICE. 927 00:25:19,433 --> 00:25:22,000 >> Bill: IT WASN'T AIN'TING 928 00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:23,400 WEEK RIGHT THERE. 929 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,866 FORTNIGHT VIOLENCE. 930 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,733 THE KENTUCKY ATHLETICS 931 00:25:24,866 --> 00:25:29,266 ASSOCIATION BANNED FORTNIGHT 932 00:25:27,733 --> 00:25:29,600 FROM BEING PLAYED COMPETITIVE IN 933 00:25:29,266 --> 00:25:31,466 SCHOOLS. 934 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,466 GAMING IS BIG NOW AND 935 00:25:31,466 --> 00:25:34,200 COMMISSIONER YOU'LL JAN TACKETT 936 00:25:33,466 --> 00:25:36,700 SAID THERE'S TOO MUCH VIOLENCE 937 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,933 AND NO PLACE FOR SHOOTER GAMES 938 00:25:36,700 --> 00:25:39,700 IN SCHOOLS, WHICH WAS AN 939 00:25:37,933 --> 00:25:41,933 INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT THERE. 940 00:25:39,700 --> 00:25:42,866 BRADY INDUSTRIES, QUICKLY, SOME 941 00:25:41,933 --> 00:25:45,266 NEW DEVELOPMENTS THERE. 942 00:25:42,866 --> 00:25:46,666 >> Deborah: THE COMPANY 943 00:25:45,266 --> 00:25:48,366 ANNOUNCED THAT CRAIG BUSHARD, 944 00:25:46,666 --> 00:25:49,533 THE CEO OF THE COMPANY, HAD 945 00:25:48,366 --> 00:25:50,033 STEPPED DOWN AS CEO AND CHAIRMAN 946 00:25:49,533 --> 00:25:52,000 OF THE BOARD. 947 00:25:50,033 --> 00:25:55,633 THIS IS THE PROJECT ON EASTERN 948 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,733 ASHLAND AREA TO CREATE A BIG 949 00:25:55,633 --> 00:25:57,300 ALUMINUM MILL THAT STARTED UP 950 00:25:56,733 --> 00:25:59,166 BEVIN ADMINISTRATION. 951 00:25:57,300 --> 00:26:00,433 BUSHARD WHO WAS SET ON SOME 952 00:25:59,166 --> 00:26:01,133 INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT COMING BACK 953 00:26:00,433 --> 00:26:02,566 TO THE UNITED STATES ANNOUNCED 954 00:26:01,133 --> 00:26:05,833 WHEN HE ARRIVED THAT HE IN FACT 955 00:26:02,566 --> 00:26:06,500 HAD NOT RESIGNED AND HE WAS 956 00:26:05,833 --> 00:26:06,800 STILL YO AND CHAIRMAN OF THE 957 00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:11,533 BOARD. 958 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:13,333 >> Bill: AND WELL, KENTUCKY 959 00:26:11,533 --> 00:26:16,100 NATIVE LOWER ET CETERA A LYNN 960 00:26:13,333 --> 00:26:18,066 THE COAL MINE AREAS DAUGHTER 961 00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:19,766 SAID COUNTRY MUSIC IS DEAD. 962 00:26:18,066 --> 00:26:21,766 THE 87-YEAR-OLD LYNN SAID EVERY 963 00:26:19,766 --> 00:26:23,300 TYPE OF MUSIC SHOULD BE SAVED, 964 00:26:21,766 --> 00:26:25,700 AND SHE SAID "KEEPING IT COUNTRY 965 00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:26,933 WILL KEEP THE FANS LISTENING." 966 00:26:25,700 --> 00:26:28,833 STAY TUNED IMMEDIATELY AFTER 967 00:26:26,933 --> 00:26:29,766 COMMENT OR "LEGISLATIVE 968 00:26:28,833 --> 00:26:32,566 UPDATE." 969 00:26:29,766 --> 00:26:33,633 AND TUNE IN MONDAY A 8, 7:00 970 00:26:32,566 --> 00:26:35,200 CENTRAL FOR "KENTUCKY TONIGHT." 971 00:26:33,633 --> 00:26:37,000 RENEE SHAW WILL HOST A 972 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,400 DISCUSSION ON BOATERS SPORTS