1 00:00:14,166 --> 00:00:16,166 ITS TOUGHEST MONTH YET IN 2 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:18,033 DEALING WITH COVID-19 AS SCHOOL 3 00:00:16,166 --> 00:00:22,733 AND BUSINESSES NAVIGATE HOW TO 4 00:00:18,033 --> 00:00:24,566 MOVE FORWARD. 5 00:00:22,733 --> 00:00:26,133 KENTUCKY LEADERS REACT TO THE 6 00:00:24,566 --> 00:00:26,866 NEWS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS 7 00:00:26,133 --> 00:00:28,000 TESTED POSITIVE FOR THE VIRUS. 8 00:00:26,866 --> 00:00:32,166 REDACTED RECORDING OF THE GRAND 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:34,200 JURY INVESTIGATION OF BREONNA 10 00:00:32,166 --> 00:00:34,933 TAIR'S DEATH ARE released POLICE 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,566 REFORM IS ANOTHER ITEM ADDED TO 12 00:00:34,933 --> 00:00:37,066 THE GROWING AGENDA FOR THE 13 00:00:35,566 --> 00:00:38,566 UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 14 00:00:37,066 --> 00:00:39,333 OCTOBER ARRIVES WITH A REAL 15 00:00:38,566 --> 00:00:41,866 CHILL IN THE AIR, AND "COMMENT" 16 00:00:39,333 --> 00:00:41,866 IS NEXT ON KET. 17 00:00:50,133 --> 00:00:53,733 GOOD EVENING. I'M BILL BRYANT, 18 00:00:52,166 --> 00:00:54,500 AND WE WELCOME YOU TO "COMMENT 19 00:00:53,733 --> 00:00:56,200 ON KENTUCKY," A LOOK BACK AT THE 20 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:58,166 WEEK'S NEWS IN ITS COMMONWEALTH 21 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,466 AND SOME ANALYSIS. AND THE 22 00:00:58,166 --> 00:01:02,900 GUESTS ON OUR PANEL OF WORKING 23 00:00:59,466 --> 00:01:04,700 KENTUCKY JOURNALISTS TONIGHT AR 24 00:01:02,900 --> 00:01:05,600 BILL ESTEP, SOUTHERN AND EASTER 25 00:01:04,700 --> 00:01:07,766 KENTUCKY REPORTER FOR THE 26 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,066 LEXINGTON HERALD-LEADER. MANDY 27 00:01:07,766 --> 00:01:11,733 MCLAREN, EDUCATION REPORTER 28 00:01:09,066 --> 00:01:16,100 FOR THE COURIER-JOURNAL. AND 29 00:01:11,733 --> 00:01:17,966 CHRIS OTTS, REPORTER FOR WDRB I 30 00:01:16,100 --> 00:01:19,100 ALSO TONIGHT, A BATCH OF NEWS 31 00:01:17,966 --> 00:01:21,033 IMPACTING TOURISM FROM THE 32 00:01:19,100 --> 00:01:22,600 KENTUCKY SPEEDWAY TO HORSE 33 00:01:21,033 --> 00:01:25,400 RACING TO A PROPOSED MAJOR 34 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:28,633 DEVELOPMENT AT THE RED RIVER GO 35 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,966 BUT FIRST, KENTUCKY LEADERS HAVE 36 00:01:28,633 --> 00:01:32,166 BEEN REACTING TODAY TO THE NEWS 37 00:01:30,966 --> 00:01:34,166 THAT BROKE THIS MORNING FROM 38 00:01:32,166 --> 00:01:37,233 PRESIDENT TRUMP AND FIRST LADY 39 00:01:34,166 --> 00:01:37,966 MELANIA HAVE TESTED POSITIVE FO 40 00:01:37,233 --> 00:01:38,700 SENATOR MCCONNELL TWEETED THAT 41 00:01:37,966 --> 00:01:40,333 THE PRESIDENT WAS IN GOOD 42 00:01:38,700 --> 00:01:42,100 SPIRITS WHEN HE TALKED TO HIM T 43 00:01:40,333 --> 00:01:43,366 MCCONNELL'S OPPONENT IN THE 44 00:01:42,100 --> 00:01:46,866 ELECTION, AMY MCGRATH, ALSO 45 00:01:43,366 --> 00:01:47,566 TWEETED HER WELL WISHES TO THE 46 00:01:46,866 --> 00:01:49,466 FAMILY AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND 47 00:01:47,566 --> 00:01:50,566 THE STAFF THERE. 48 00:01:49,466 --> 00:01:52,166 AND GOVERNOR BESHEAR WISHED THE 49 00:01:50,566 --> 00:01:54,500 PRESIDENT AND FIRST LADY A 50 00:01:52,166 --> 00:01:57,233 SPEEDY RECOVERY AND WENT ON TO 51 00:01:54,500 --> 00:01:57,633 SAY, "THIS VIRUS CAN IMPACT 52 00:01:57,233 --> 00:01:59,633 YIN." 53 00:01:57,633 --> 00:02:01,933 SO, BILL, IT WAS SOBERING NEWS 54 00:01:59,633 --> 00:02:03,166 TO WAKE UP TO TODAY AND NO DOUBT 55 00:02:01,933 --> 00:02:07,700 THE TOPIC OF CONVERSATIONS 56 00:02:03,166 --> 00:02:09,733 AROUND THE COUNTRY AND HEAR IN 57 00:02:07,700 --> 00:02:10,100 HERE IN KWE BEVERAGES NO 58 00:02:09,733 --> 00:02:11,900 QUESTION. 59 00:02:10,100 --> 00:02:18,033 THERE WAS NOTED THAT THE 60 00:02:11,900 --> 00:02:18,566 PRESIDENT WAS MOVED THE WALTER 61 00:02:18,033 --> 00:02:21,666 REED MEDICAL CENTER. 62 00:02:18,566 --> 00:02:24,766 IT SAID HE HAD F.E.A.R AND. 63 00:02:21,666 --> 00:02:25,366 TRUMP HAS A LOT OF SUPPORT IN 64 00:02:24,766 --> 00:02:25,933 KENTUCKY LIFE AND FOLKS 65 00:02:25,366 --> 00:02:26,300 CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, 66 00:02:25,933 --> 00:02:27,500 OBVIOUSLY. 67 00:02:26,300 --> 00:02:29,100 THERE ARE FOLKS ON THE OTHER 68 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:32,033 SIDE OBVIOUSLY WHO FEEL LIKE 69 00:02:29,100 --> 00:02:35,100 TRUMP HAS KIND OF MINIMIZED THE 70 00:02:32,033 --> 00:02:35,766 DISEASE AND KIND OF MADE IF YOU 71 00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:36,766 KNEW PEOPLE WEARING MASKS. 72 00:02:35,766 --> 00:02:39,466 MEANINGSED THAT DURING THE 73 00:02:36,766 --> 00:02:39,766 DEBATE TUESDAY NIGHT WITH JOE 74 00:02:39,466 --> 00:02:41,800 BIDEN. 75 00:02:39,766 --> 00:02:42,166 FOLKS KIND OF ACROSS THE 76 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,266 SPECTRUM. 77 00:02:42,166 --> 00:02:44,000 BUT NOBODY WANTS THE PRESIDENT 78 00:02:43,266 --> 00:02:45,733 TO BE SICK. 79 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,533 IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY, 80 00:02:45,733 --> 00:02:48,866 AND SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF 81 00:02:48,533 --> 00:02:49,866 CONCERN. 82 00:02:48,866 --> 00:02:51,466 >> Bill: AND AS WE SAID A LOT 83 00:02:49,866 --> 00:02:53,066 OF THE DISCUSSION AND WELL 84 00:02:51,466 --> 00:02:53,600 WISHES GOING THE PRESIDENT'S 85 00:02:53,066 --> 00:02:55,100 WAY. 86 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,900 THIS ALL COMES AS KENTUCKY IS IN 87 00:02:55,100 --> 00:02:57,333 A TOUGH PATCH RIGHT NOW WITH 88 00:02:56,900 --> 00:02:59,433 CORONAVIRUS. 89 00:02:57,333 --> 00:03:01,100 SEPTEMBER WAS THE DEADLIEST 90 00:02:59,433 --> 00:03:02,000 MONTH YET FOR THE PANDEMIC IN 91 00:03:01,100 --> 00:03:03,533 THE COMMONWEALTH, AND THIS WEEK 92 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,266 WE HAD SEVERAL DAYS OF CASES 93 00:03:03,533 --> 00:03:07,966 CLOSE TO OR ABOVE 1,000, 94 00:03:07,266 --> 00:03:09,866 ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE IS 95 00:03:07,966 --> 00:03:11,066 COVID FATIGUE OUT THERE, THE 96 00:03:09,866 --> 00:03:12,800 GOVERNOR REEMPHASIZED THE 97 00:03:11,066 --> 00:03:14,200 IMPORTANCE OF TRYING TO SLOW THE 98 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,700 SPREAD. 99 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,766 >> I BELIEVE THAT SINCE MAYBE 100 00:03:15,700 --> 00:03:21,466 THE TRADITIONAL START OF SCHOOL, 101 00:03:18,766 --> 00:03:23,733 WE HAVE BECOME MORE CASUAL IN 102 00:03:21,466 --> 00:03:28,500 OUR APPROACH TO COVID AND OUR 103 00:03:23,733 --> 00:03:31,200 CONCERNS ABOUT COVID AND HOW 104 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:33,933 WELL WE FOLLOW THOSE RULES AND 105 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,366 GUIDELINES THAT ARE OUT THERE. 106 00:03:33,933 --> 00:03:37,966 IT CAN BE NATURAL. 107 00:03:35,366 --> 00:03:40,966 IT'S BEEN SEVEN MONTHS. 108 00:03:37,966 --> 00:03:45,000 AND WHEN WE GET CASUAL, WHEN WE 109 00:03:40,966 --> 00:03:47,933 DON'T SHOW URGENCY, WHAT WE SEE 110 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,733 IS ALARMING TRENDS IN THE VIRUS, 111 00:03:47,933 --> 00:03:52,466 MORE CASES, AND ULTIMATELY MORE 112 00:03:49,733 --> 00:03:54,266 PEOPLE PASSING AWAY. 113 00:03:52,466 --> 00:03:55,666 >> Bill: SO, MANDY, OUR 114 00:03:54,266 --> 00:03:57,400 SCHOOLS ARE HAVING A REAL 115 00:03:55,666 --> 00:03:59,100 CHALLENGE AS THEY TRY TO RETURN 116 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,566 TO IN-PERSON LEARNING AND 117 00:03:59,100 --> 00:04:03,200 THEY'RE HAVING TO RETREAT IN 118 00:04:00,566 --> 00:04:05,000 SOME CASES OR DELAY IN OTHERS. 119 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,733 WHAT IS THE LANDSCAPE OUT THERE 120 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,900 FOR SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW AS IT 121 00:04:07,733 --> 00:04:11,933 RELATES TO COVID-19? 122 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:13,466 >> Mandy: SO THE MAJORITY OF 123 00:04:11,933 --> 00:04:15,866 SCHOOL DISTRICTS, ALL BUT I 124 00:04:13,466 --> 00:04:17,500 THINK ABOUT 50 OF KENTUCKY'S 125 00:04:15,866 --> 00:04:19,166 SCHOOL DISTRICTS, ARE OPEN TO 126 00:04:17,500 --> 00:04:21,666 SOME FORM OF IN-PERSON LEARNING 127 00:04:19,166 --> 00:04:22,933 RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'VE GOT TO ASK 128 00:04:21,666 --> 00:04:24,933 HOW MUCH LONGER IS THAT PATTERN 129 00:04:22,933 --> 00:04:27,666 GOING TO HOLD WHEN WE ARE SEEING 130 00:04:24,933 --> 00:04:29,200 THESE BIG SPIKES IN CASES ALL 131 00:04:27,666 --> 00:04:30,500 ACROSS THE STATE, REALLY, AND WE 132 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,100 KNOW THAT AS YOU MENTIONED AT 133 00:04:30,500 --> 00:04:33,000 THE TOP OF THE SHOW, IT'S 134 00:04:32,100 --> 00:04:34,900 GETTING COLDER OUT THERE. 135 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:38,533 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START 136 00:04:34,900 --> 00:04:40,100 SPENDING MORE TIME INSIDE, A 137 00:04:38,533 --> 00:04:41,466 SURE WAY FOR THIS VIRUS TO 138 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:42,833 SPREAD QUICKLY, AND THAT'S GOING 139 00:04:41,466 --> 00:04:45,466 TO IMPACT SCHOOLS. 140 00:04:42,833 --> 00:04:47,400 RIGHT NOW THERE ARE MORE THAN 141 00:04:45,466 --> 00:04:49,100 2,000 STUDENTS ACROSS THE STATE 142 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,200 THAT ARE QUARANTINED DUE TO SOME 143 00:04:49,100 --> 00:04:53,633 SORT OF INFECTION BEING 144 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:57,766 CONFIRMED AT THEIR SCHOOL. 145 00:04:53,633 --> 00:04:58,666 I BELIEVE THERE IS 862 ACTIVE 146 00:04:57,766 --> 00:04:59,866 INFECTIONS RIGHT NOW AMONG 147 00:04:58,666 --> 00:05:01,966 STUDENTS AND STAFF MEMBERS. 148 00:04:59,866 --> 00:05:04,766 AND ONE THING THAT HAPPENED THIS 149 00:05:01,966 --> 00:05:06,666 WEEK IS THE STATE RELEASED ITS 150 00:05:04,766 --> 00:05:08,500 SCHOOL COVID DASHBOARD, SO 151 00:05:06,666 --> 00:05:10,200 PARENTS CAN GO ONLINE, GO TO THE 152 00:05:08,500 --> 00:05:11,700 STATE WEBSITE AND LOOK AT THEIR 153 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,633 CHILD'S SCHOOL AND SEE HOW MANY 154 00:05:11,700 --> 00:05:15,833 ACTIVE CASES THERE ARE, HOW MANY 155 00:05:13,633 --> 00:05:17,533 PREVIOUS CASES THERE ARE. 156 00:05:15,833 --> 00:05:18,833 THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO BE ABLE TO 157 00:05:17,533 --> 00:05:19,666 FEEL YOU HAVE SOME POWER AND 158 00:05:18,833 --> 00:05:21,866 SOME CONTROL OVER WHAT'S 159 00:05:19,666 --> 00:05:23,900 HAPPENING TO YOUR CHILD'S 160 00:05:21,866 --> 00:05:25,700 SITUATION. 161 00:05:23,900 --> 00:05:27,300 ANOTHER THING THAT'S GOING ON IS 162 00:05:25,700 --> 00:05:30,733 THE SCHOOLS ARE USING THAT DATA, 163 00:05:27,300 --> 00:05:31,533 AND WE'VE ALL SEEN THAT MAP NOW 164 00:05:30,733 --> 00:05:32,933 GOVERNOR SHOWS ABOUT THE 165 00:05:31,533 --> 00:05:34,533 INCIDENT RATE FOR COUNTIES. 166 00:05:32,933 --> 00:05:36,000 AND WHEN YOUR COUNTY TURNS RED, 167 00:05:34,533 --> 00:05:37,866 SHOULD NOT BE IN SCHOOL. 168 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,400 IF YOU LOOK ACROSS STATE, WE'RE 169 00:05:37,866 --> 00:05:40,500 SEEING RED COUNTIES FROM FAYETTE 170 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,600 COUNTY IN THE CENTRAL FOR FULTON 171 00:05:40,500 --> 00:05:42,900 IN THE WEST, TO HARLAN IN THE 172 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,033 EAST. 173 00:05:42,900 --> 00:05:45,833 AND THEN BEYOND THAT WE'RE 174 00:05:44,033 --> 00:05:47,133 SEEING A LOT OF ORANGE WHICH 175 00:05:45,833 --> 00:05:49,066 MEANS YOU SHOULD REALLY BE 176 00:05:47,133 --> 00:05:50,766 THINKING ABOUT NOT BEING IN 177 00:05:49,066 --> 00:05:51,866 SCHOOL BECAUSE THE COVID IS SO 178 00:05:50,766 --> 00:05:54,900 WIDESPREAD THAT IT COULD CREATE 179 00:05:51,866 --> 00:05:55,800 A SERIOUS SCHOOL-RELATED 180 00:05:54,900 --> 00:05:57,166 OUTBREAK. 181 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,033 >> Bill: BILL, YOU KNOW, THE 182 00:05:57,166 --> 00:06:00,200 SPREAD IN KENTUCKY HAS BEEN 183 00:05:59,033 --> 00:06:01,566 WIDESPREAD FROM THE BEGINNING, 184 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,433 BUT IN THE EARLIER DAYS, THE 185 00:06:01,566 --> 00:06:04,400 EARLIER MONTHS OF THIS YEAR, IT 186 00:06:03,433 --> 00:06:07,466 SEEMED MORE CONCENTRATED NUR 187 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:09,466 ABOUT AN AREAS, AND NOW IT SEEMS 188 00:06:07,466 --> 00:06:11,766 AT THIS POINT BEGIN IN YOU ARE 189 00:06:09,466 --> 00:06:13,700 BAN BUT IT SEEMS THE RURAL AREAS 190 00:06:11,766 --> 00:06:15,700 GETTING IMPACTED HARD. 191 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:17,600 >> Bill Estep: THAT I WAS 192 00:06:15,700 --> 00:06:19,533 PATTERN NATIONWIDE, THEAT FIRST 193 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,066 NEW YORK CITY, NEW JERSEY WAS 194 00:06:19,533 --> 00:06:23,466 ONE OF THE HOT SPOTS EARLY ON, A 195 00:06:22,066 --> 00:06:24,566 LOT OF DEATHS. 196 00:06:23,466 --> 00:06:26,066 THEN THAT MOVED TO THE MIDWEST 197 00:06:24,566 --> 00:06:28,200 AND THE SOUTH. 198 00:06:26,066 --> 00:06:31,900 SAME IN KENTUCKY. 199 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:33,333 THE YOU ARE BAN URBAN AREAS WAS 200 00:06:31,900 --> 00:06:36,333 THE FIRST PLACE WHERE THERE I 201 00:06:33,333 --> 00:06:38,566 WAS LOT OF SPREAD BUT IT HA 202 00:06:36,333 --> 00:06:39,866 MOVED INTO THE RURAL AREAS. 203 00:06:38,566 --> 00:06:41,266 THE GREENSBORO REPORTED THEY HAD 204 00:06:39,866 --> 00:06:46,133 THEIR HIGHEST DAY YET TODAY. 205 00:06:41,266 --> 00:06:47,733 THE AM CA RON, THE SOMERSET AREA 206 00:06:46,133 --> 00:06:49,566 SAID IN A POST LAST NIGHT THAT 207 00:06:47,733 --> 00:06:52,366 THE CASES WERE RISING RAPIDLY. 208 00:06:49,566 --> 00:06:54,600 IT IS, SOME OF THE RURAL AREAS 209 00:06:52,366 --> 00:06:56,866 ARE, SOUTHEAST KENTUCKY, HARLAN, 210 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,200 SOME OF THOSE COUNTIES A PRET 211 00:06:56,866 --> 00:06:58,500 SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN RECENT 212 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,500 DAYS. 213 00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:01,466 >> Bill: AND SOMETIMES THOSE 214 00:06:59,500 --> 00:07:02,600 ARE TIED TO SPECIFIC SITUATIONS 215 00:07:01,466 --> 00:07:03,600 THAT BECOME KNOWN. 216 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,400 >> Bill Estep: YEAH, SOME OF 217 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,933 IT HAS BEEN TIED, AS MANDY SAID, 218 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,833 GOING BACK TO SCHOOL, SOME OF 219 00:07:07,933 --> 00:07:10,633 IT'S TIED TO OTHER EVENTS. 220 00:07:09,833 --> 00:07:10,966 SO, YEAH, IT'S DIFFERENT 221 00:07:10,633 --> 00:07:13,133 THINGS. 222 00:07:10,966 --> 00:07:15,666 BUT AS THE GOVERNOR SAID, I 223 00:07:13,133 --> 00:07:16,066 THINK PEOPLE HAVE SORT OF GOTTEN 224 00:07:15,666 --> 00:07:18,600 TIRED. 225 00:07:16,066 --> 00:07:20,300 AND THE JUDGE EXECUTIVE IN 226 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,433 HARLAN COUNTY DAN MOSLEY, I WAS 227 00:07:20,300 --> 00:07:24,033 TALKING WITH HIM RECENTLY, AND 228 00:07:22,433 --> 00:07:26,633 HE SAID YOU HAD THAT SAME 229 00:07:24,033 --> 00:07:28,266 SITUATION THAT EARLY A SAW A LOT 230 00:07:26,633 --> 00:07:30,166 OF PEOPLE WEARING MASKS. 231 00:07:28,266 --> 00:07:32,166 OVER TIME THEY GOT TIRED HAVE 232 00:07:30,166 --> 00:07:34,300 IT, THERE WAS FATIGUE AND THEY 233 00:07:32,166 --> 00:07:35,600 LET THEIR GUARDS DOWN AND THE 234 00:07:34,300 --> 00:07:37,300 CASES WENT UP BENEFITS AND THEY 235 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:40,900 ONLY HAVE SO MUCH MANPOWER, SO 236 00:07:37,300 --> 00:07:41,566 THE WITH THE LARGER RETAILER 237 00:07:40,900 --> 00:07:42,833 THAT ALREADY HAVE NATIONWIDE 238 00:07:41,566 --> 00:07:44,733 POLICIES IN PLACE IT'S EASIER TO 239 00:07:42,833 --> 00:07:46,000 DO THE ENFORCEMENT THEN IN THE 240 00:07:44,733 --> 00:07:48,166 MOM AND POP STORES AND THE 241 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,466 CONVENIENCE LOCATIONS ALONG THE 242 00:07:48,166 --> 00:07:49,400 ROAD. 243 00:07:48,466 --> 00:07:49,666 >> Bill Estep: I'M OUT QUITE A 244 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,400 BIT. 245 00:07:49,666 --> 00:07:54,200 I WAS IN HARLAN COUNTY, GARRETT 246 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,133 COUNTY TODAY, OF COURSE, I'M IN 247 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,033 PULASKI COUNTY. 248 00:07:55,133 --> 00:07:59,166 EVERYWHERE I GO, EVERY STORE HAS 249 00:07:57,033 --> 00:07:59,966 A SIGN ON THE DOOR THAT SAYS 250 00:07:59,166 --> 00:08:01,633 "MASK REQUIRED." 251 00:07:59,966 --> 00:08:03,033 BUT IN ALL OF THEM THERE ARE 252 00:08:01,633 --> 00:08:04,366 PEOPLE WITHOUT MASKS AND THERE'S 253 00:08:03,033 --> 00:08:04,666 NOT ANYTHING DONE TO ENFORCE 254 00:08:04,366 --> 00:08:06,266 THAT. 255 00:08:04,666 --> 00:08:07,766 AND PART OF IT IS THEY DON'T 256 00:08:06,266 --> 00:08:08,133 WANT TO ALIENATE THEIR 257 00:08:07,766 --> 00:08:11,633 COMMERCE. 258 00:08:08,133 --> 00:08:12,366 THEY DON'T WANT TO RISK 259 00:08:11,633 --> 00:08:12,733 RETALIATION BEANS ONE OF THEIR 260 00:08:12,366 --> 00:08:13,933 EMPLOYEES. 261 00:08:12,733 --> 00:08:15,833 IT IS DIFFICULT AND THE HEALTH 262 00:08:13,933 --> 00:08:18,333 DEPARTMENTS, I KNOW THEY DO 263 00:08:15,833 --> 00:08:19,966 RESPOND WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS, 264 00:08:18,333 --> 00:08:20,666 STORE X IS NOT DOING THIS THE 265 00:08:19,966 --> 00:08:22,866 RIGHT WAY. 266 00:08:20,666 --> 00:08:24,600 I KNOW THAT CHECK ON THAT BUT 267 00:08:22,866 --> 00:08:24,866 THEY'RE LIMITED IN WHAT THEY CAN 268 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,300 DO. 269 00:08:24,866 --> 00:08:27,366 >> Bill: CHRIS, THE ECONOMIC 270 00:08:26,300 --> 00:08:30,133 FALLOUT OF COVID IS OBVIOUSLY 271 00:08:27,366 --> 00:08:31,733 WIDE AND DEEP, AND BUSINESSES, 272 00:08:30,133 --> 00:08:33,033 THEY TRY TO GET GOING AGAIN, 273 00:08:31,733 --> 00:08:34,866 THEY TRY TO GET A PLAN. 274 00:08:33,033 --> 00:08:36,166 THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE OPTIMISM 275 00:08:34,866 --> 00:08:37,700 THAT THINGS ARE COMING TO SOME 276 00:08:36,166 --> 00:08:40,600 SORT OF NEW NORMAL. 277 00:08:37,700 --> 00:08:42,300 AND THEN THE NUMBERS START 278 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,333 CLIMBING AGAIN. 279 00:08:42,300 --> 00:08:45,733 FRUSTRATION ISN'T A STRONG 280 00:08:43,333 --> 00:08:47,866 ENOUGH WORD, I'M SURE, FOR THOSE 281 00:08:45,733 --> 00:08:48,933 WHO HAVE THEIR LIVES INVESTED IN 282 00:08:47,866 --> 00:08:51,100 THEIR BUSINESSES. 283 00:08:48,933 --> 00:08:52,766 >> Chris: YEAH, IT'S IMPORTANT 284 00:08:51,100 --> 00:08:55,300 TO REMEMBER THAT WE'RE STILL 285 00:08:52,766 --> 00:08:57,700 DOWN A LOT OF JOBS NATIONALLY 286 00:08:55,300 --> 00:09:00,566 AND IN KENTUCKY, SO THE JOBS 287 00:08:57,700 --> 00:09:04,133 REPORT NATIONALLY TODAY, THE 288 00:09:00,566 --> 00:09:06,433 RATE OF JOB GROWTH, OF RECOVERY 289 00:09:04,133 --> 00:09:09,466 IS SLOWING, AND WE'RE STILL IN 290 00:09:06,433 --> 00:09:11,200 THE HOLE RELATIVE TO WHERE WE 291 00:09:09,466 --> 00:09:14,400 STARTED WITH THE PRE-PANDEMIC, 292 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,933 AND IN KENTUCKY WE'RE DOWN ABOUT 293 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,033 120,000 JOBS, ACCORDING TO THE 294 00:09:15,933 --> 00:09:19,333 MOST RECENT FIGURES FROM WHERE 295 00:09:18,033 --> 00:09:22,166 WE WERE AT THE SAME TIME LAST 296 00:09:19,333 --> 00:09:23,466 YEAR IN AUGUST. 297 00:09:22,166 --> 00:09:23,866 AND IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE 298 00:09:23,466 --> 00:09:26,400 INDUSTRIES. 299 00:09:23,866 --> 00:09:28,700 THERE'S A VERY UNEVEN IMPACT OF 300 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,233 THIS, WHICH IS REALLY 301 00:09:28,700 --> 00:09:34,366 UNFORTUNATE, AND FOR INDUSTRIES 302 00:09:31,233 --> 00:09:37,666 LIKE RESTAURANTS, HOT, TOURISM, 303 00:09:34,366 --> 00:09:39,166 TRAVEL, I -- HOSPITALITY, 304 00:09:37,666 --> 00:09:40,100 TOURISM, TRAVEL, THESE 305 00:09:39,166 --> 00:09:40,500 INDUSTRIES HAVE BEEN 306 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:41,700 DEVASTATED. 307 00:09:40,500 --> 00:09:43,400 IN LOUISVILLE SOME OF OUR 308 00:09:41,700 --> 00:09:44,733 BIGGEST HOTELS DOWNTOWN HAVE HAD 309 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,033 TO FILE NOTICES RECENTLY SAYING 310 00:09:44,733 --> 00:09:48,433 THAT THEY REALLY HOPE TO BRING 311 00:09:46,033 --> 00:09:50,066 BACK MOST OF THEIR WORKERS, BUT 312 00:09:48,433 --> 00:09:52,266 BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SIX MONTHS, 313 00:09:50,066 --> 00:09:54,066 NOW IT TRIGGERS THIS NOTICE 314 00:09:52,266 --> 00:09:56,400 REQUIREMENT WHERE THEY HAVE TO 315 00:09:54,066 --> 00:09:57,800 SAY, IN FACT, THIS HAS GONE ON 316 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,233 LONGER THAN WE HOPED OR WE 317 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,433 THOUGHT AND THESE FURLOUGHS ARE 318 00:10:00,233 --> 00:10:04,133 CONTINUING INDEFINITELY. 319 00:10:01,433 --> 00:10:04,866 SO THERE'S STILL QUITE A BIT OF 320 00:10:04,133 --> 00:10:06,466 JOBLESSNESS. 321 00:10:04,866 --> 00:10:09,200 AND WHILE AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL 322 00:10:06,466 --> 00:10:12,733 THE NEW CYCLE HAS MOVED ON TO 323 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,800 THE SUPREME COURT AND TO THE 324 00:10:12,733 --> 00:10:15,033 PRESIDENT'S CORONAVIRUS 325 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,166 DIAGNOSIS, BUT A LOT OF WHAT 326 00:10:15,033 --> 00:10:18,666 PEOPLE CARE ABOUT, THERE'S NO 327 00:10:17,166 --> 00:10:20,866 PPP LOANS FOR SMALL BUSINESSES 328 00:10:18,666 --> 00:10:23,000 ANYMORE, THERE'S NO $600 A WEEK 329 00:10:20,866 --> 00:10:25,533 TO BE THE UNEMPLOYED ANYMORE, 330 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,800 AND THAT MONEY WAS REALLY 331 00:10:25,533 --> 00:10:29,233 PROPPING THINGS UP, AND SO I 332 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,233 THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE 333 00:10:29,233 --> 00:10:31,966 STRUGGLING WITHOUT THOSE 334 00:10:30,233 --> 00:10:33,533 SUPPORTS AND NO AGREEMENT TO 335 00:10:31,966 --> 00:10:34,900 PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT. 336 00:10:33,533 --> 00:10:37,300 >> Bill: AND IT CONTINUES TO 337 00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:38,500 BE FRUSTRATION ABOUT 338 00:10:37,300 --> 00:10:40,200 UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS BEING SENT 339 00:10:38,500 --> 00:10:42,533 OUT, WHICH IN SOME CASES PEOPLE 340 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,900 GO BACK TO THE SPRING AND THEY 341 00:10:42,533 --> 00:10:46,666 STILL ENT HAVE THEIR BENEFITS. 342 00:10:44,900 --> 00:10:48,666 >> Bill Estep: THE STATE HAS 343 00:10:46,666 --> 00:10:49,766 BEEN TRYING TO WHITTLE THAT DOWN 344 00:10:48,666 --> 00:10:51,100 BUT THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE 345 00:10:49,766 --> 00:10:52,000 STILL HAVING TROUBLE GETTING 346 00:10:51,100 --> 00:10:54,400 THEIR UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS. 347 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,733 OBVIOUSLY THE STATE WAS 348 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,733 INUNDATED, THE SYSTEM WASN'T 349 00:10:55,733 --> 00:10:58,433 PREPARED FOR THE NUMBER OF 350 00:10:56,733 --> 00:10:59,966 CLAIMS, AND THEY'VE MADE SOME 351 00:10:58,433 --> 00:11:02,366 IMPROVEMENTS TO TRY TO FIX THAT 352 00:10:59,966 --> 00:11:04,266 BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME FOLKS 353 00:11:02,366 --> 00:11:06,000 WHO FEEL THEY'RE FALLING THROUGH 354 00:11:04,266 --> 00:11:06,400 THE CRACKS. 355 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,066 >> LINDA: 356 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:07,733 >> Bill: THE LATEST HAVE TO 357 00:11:07,066 --> 00:11:09,200 BREONNA TAYLOR CASE IS THAT 358 00:11:07,733 --> 00:11:11,666 REDACTED VERSIONS OF THE GRAND 359 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:14,133 JURY WAS RELEASED ON FRIDAY. 360 00:11:11,666 --> 00:11:16,533 A JUDGE GRANTED THAT REQUEST FOR 361 00:11:14,133 --> 00:11:17,433 THE PROCEEDINGS TO BE RELEASED. 362 00:11:16,533 --> 00:11:19,266 CHRIS, REPORTERS INCLUDING 363 00:11:17,433 --> 00:11:21,166 YOURSELF HAVE SPENT HOURS GOING 364 00:11:19,266 --> 00:11:22,466 OVER 20 HOURS OF RECORDINGS, 365 00:11:21,166 --> 00:11:23,800 INCLUDING A LONG PROCESS TO HEAR 366 00:11:22,466 --> 00:11:24,600 WHAT THE GRAND JURY WAS AND 367 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,533 WASN'T TOLD. 368 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,400 WHAT DO YOU KNOW SO FAR ABOUT 369 00:11:26,533 --> 00:11:30,533 THE RELEASE? 370 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,833 I KNOW THIS IS AN ONGOING 371 00:11:30,533 --> 00:11:35,166 STORY. 372 00:11:30,833 --> 00:11:36,500 >> Chris: YEAH, BILL. 373 00:11:35,166 --> 00:11:37,400 I'D REALLY PLEAD WITH YOUR 374 00:11:36,500 --> 00:11:40,500 VIEWERS TONIGHT TO STAY WITH US 375 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,600 IN THE LOUISVILLE MEDIA AND 376 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:44,233 ELSEWHERE BECAUSE THESE 377 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,566 RECORDINGS ARE NOT VERY HIGH 378 00:11:44,233 --> 00:11:46,266 QUALITY. 379 00:11:44,566 --> 00:11:49,766 A LOT OF TIMES WHAT WE'RE 380 00:11:46,266 --> 00:11:52,300 LISTENING TO IS A RECORDING OF A 381 00:11:49,766 --> 00:11:54,366 RECORDING BEING PLAYED THROUGH A 382 00:11:52,300 --> 00:11:55,066 SPEAKER AND THERE MAY BE 383 00:11:54,366 --> 00:11:56,333 OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPTS OF THESE, 384 00:11:55,066 --> 00:11:58,333 BUT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE, AND 385 00:11:56,333 --> 00:12:00,300 WE'RE NOT GIVEN THEM, SO IT'S 386 00:11:58,333 --> 00:12:03,333 VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE OUT WHO 387 00:12:00,300 --> 00:12:04,333 IS TALKING, WHAT EXACTLY IS 388 00:12:03,333 --> 00:12:06,866 BEING SAID. 389 00:12:04,333 --> 00:12:09,266 SO YOU'RE JUST SEEING NUGGETS 390 00:12:06,866 --> 00:12:10,400 DRIBBLE OUT RIGHT NOW ABOUT 391 00:12:09,266 --> 00:12:11,100 REVELATIONS OF THINGS WE DON'T 392 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,033 KNOW BEFORE. 393 00:12:11,100 --> 00:12:15,633 AND I WOULD SAY FOR THE MOST 394 00:12:13,033 --> 00:12:17,466 PART THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED THE 395 00:12:15,633 --> 00:12:20,066 OVERALL PICTURE. 396 00:12:17,466 --> 00:12:21,766 I THINK THE NEXT REAL SCRUTINY 397 00:12:20,066 --> 00:12:23,766 ON THIS CASE IS THE SEARCH 398 00:12:21,766 --> 00:12:25,600 WARRANT THAT LED OFFICERS TO 399 00:12:23,766 --> 00:12:27,733 BREONNA TAYLOR'S APARTMENT, AND 400 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:30,433 WE HEARD TODAY THAT THE GRAND 401 00:12:27,733 --> 00:12:32,166 JURORS WERE TOLD THE SAME STORY 402 00:12:30,433 --> 00:12:34,066 THAT THE COPS TOLD INITIALLY, 403 00:12:32,166 --> 00:12:35,566 THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD THERE WERE 404 00:12:34,066 --> 00:12:38,300 SUSPICIOUS PACKAGES FROM A 405 00:12:35,566 --> 00:12:39,900 SUSPECTED DRUG DEALER THAT WERE 406 00:12:38,300 --> 00:12:42,100 GOING TO THE APARTMENT. 407 00:12:39,900 --> 00:12:44,133 BUT MY COLLEAGUES AT WDRB AND 408 00:12:42,100 --> 00:12:45,933 THEN THE COURIER GOT THIS REPORT 409 00:12:44,133 --> 00:12:47,466 AS WELL THIS WEEK FROM 410 00:12:45,933 --> 00:12:48,966 LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE THAT 411 00:12:47,466 --> 00:12:50,566 RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT 412 00:12:48,966 --> 00:12:53,000 POLICE KNEW ABOUT THE VER AS 413 00:12:50,566 --> 00:12:53,866 TIFF THAT INFORMATION AND -- 414 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,800 VERACITY OF THAT INFORMATION AND 415 00:12:53,866 --> 00:12:56,500 THE TIMELINE FOR THAT. 416 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,633 I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE 417 00:12:56,500 --> 00:13:00,600 SCRUTINY IN THE CASE IS HEADED. 418 00:12:58,633 --> 00:13:01,833 AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO SLOG 419 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,233 THROUGH THIS NEW INFORMATION 420 00:13:01,833 --> 00:13:05,166 THAT WAS PROVIDED TODAY. 421 00:13:03,233 --> 00:13:07,766 >> Bill: BILL, HOW UNUSUAL IS 422 00:13:05,166 --> 00:13:08,233 IT FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR GRAND 423 00:13:07,766 --> 00:13:09,666 JURY TESTIMONY? 424 00:13:08,233 --> 00:13:12,900 >> Bill Estep: IT IS UNUSUAL. 425 00:13:09,666 --> 00:13:14,400 I MEAN, GRAND JURY TESTIMONY IS 426 00:13:12,900 --> 00:13:16,600 OLDER ORDINARILY CONFIDENTIAL, 427 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,433 SO IT'S PRETTY UNUSUAL TO GET 428 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:17,733 THIS MUCH EVIDENCE WHICH IS 429 00:13:17,433 --> 00:13:19,633 GOOD. 430 00:13:17,733 --> 00:13:20,766 IT'S GOING TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO 431 00:13:19,633 --> 00:13:22,233 KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS. 432 00:13:20,766 --> 00:13:23,766 BUT I THINK SOME PEOPLE ARE 433 00:13:22,233 --> 00:13:25,366 GOING TO BE -- THEY'RE STILL 434 00:13:23,766 --> 00:13:27,600 GOING TO BE FOLKS WHO FEEL THEY 435 00:13:25,366 --> 00:13:29,600 HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE FULL STARE 436 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,733 BECAUSE THE QUESTIONS BY -- 437 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,933 STORY BECAUSE THE QUESTIONS AND 438 00:13:30,733 --> 00:13:33,666 STATEMENTS BY PROSECUTORS, ANY 439 00:13:32,933 --> 00:13:35,366 RECOMMENDATIONS THEY MADE WERE 440 00:13:33,666 --> 00:13:35,866 NOT RELEASED AS PART OF THIS 441 00:13:35,366 --> 00:13:38,600 PACKAGE TODAY. 442 00:13:35,866 --> 00:13:39,600 I MEAN, GRAND JURIES 443 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,600 THEORETICALLY ARE INDEPENDENT 444 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,000 BODIES, BUT THEY'RE ALSO PLAY 445 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,300 PEOPLE, SO THEY LOOK TO 446 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,033 PROSECUTORS TO TELL THEM THE LAW 447 00:13:44,300 --> 00:13:47,633 TO HELP THEM GET THROUGH THIS. 448 00:13:46,033 --> 00:13:48,633 SOMETIMES THEY'RE SEEN AS TOOLS 449 00:13:47,633 --> 00:13:50,366 OF PROSECUTORS. 450 00:13:48,633 --> 00:13:52,466 THE OLD JOKE ABOUT A GRAND JURY 451 00:13:50,366 --> 00:13:54,266 WOULD INDICT A HAM SANDWICH IF 452 00:13:52,466 --> 00:13:55,800 THE PROSECUTOR SAID TO DO THAT. 453 00:13:54,266 --> 00:13:57,100 SO SOME FOLKS, BECAUSE WE DON'T 454 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,000 HAVE THAT PIECE OF THE STORY, 455 00:13:57,100 --> 00:14:00,800 SOME FOLKS ARE GOING TO FEEL 456 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,133 THERE'S STILL SOMETHING 457 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,500 LACKING. 458 00:14:01,133 --> 00:14:05,633 >> Bill: CHRIS, YOURIZATION 459 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:06,366 WDRB HAD AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW 460 00:14:05,633 --> 00:14:07,533 THE IN WHICH THE ATTORNEY 461 00:14:06,366 --> 00:14:09,666 GENERAL ACKNOWLEDGED THE GRAND 462 00:14:07,533 --> 00:14:12,333 JURY WAS NO PRESENTED WITH 463 00:14:09,666 --> 00:14:12,666 MURDER CHARGES IN BREONNA TAYLOR 464 00:14:12,333 --> 00:14:13,900 TASE. 465 00:14:12,666 --> 00:14:15,700 >> Chris: YEAH, I THINK THIS 466 00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:16,800 WAS AN IMPORTANT ACKNOWLEDGMENT 467 00:14:15,700 --> 00:14:18,300 BECAUSE IN THE LONG PRESS 468 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,733 CONFERENCE THAT CAMERON GAVE A 469 00:14:18,300 --> 00:14:23,266 FEW WEEKS AGO WHEN HIS FINDINGS 470 00:14:20,733 --> 00:14:25,966 WERE FINALLY RELEASED, HE WASN'T 471 00:14:23,266 --> 00:14:29,800 WILLING TO GO THAT FAR. 472 00:14:25,966 --> 00:14:31,400 BUT WE WERE HOPING TO HEAR WHAT 473 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,300 PROSECUTORS TOLD THE GRAND JURY, 474 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,966 AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY -- HOW 475 00:14:34,300 --> 00:14:37,233 THEY INFORMED THEM ABOUT THE LAW 476 00:14:35,966 --> 00:14:38,866 AND THE LIMITS. 477 00:14:37,233 --> 00:14:41,466 AND UNFORTUNATELY, AS BILL JUST 478 00:14:38,866 --> 00:14:43,900 SAID, THAT WAS NOT MADE 479 00:14:41,466 --> 00:14:44,233 AVAILABLE BY CAMERON IN A PRESS 480 00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:46,200 RELEASE. 481 00:14:44,233 --> 00:14:47,300 HE SAID, PROSECUTORS' 482 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:47,666 STATEMENTS, THAT'S NOT 483 00:14:47,300 --> 00:14:49,966 EVIDENCE. 484 00:14:47,666 --> 00:14:51,533 SO WE DIDN'T RELEASE THAT. 485 00:14:49,966 --> 00:14:53,366 SO THAT IS DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE 486 00:14:51,533 --> 00:14:56,566 PROSECUTORS DO HAVE A TREMENDOUS 487 00:14:53,366 --> 00:14:57,400 INFLUENCE ON HOW THE GRAND JURY 488 00:14:56,566 --> 00:14:58,600 PROCESSES INFORMATION. 489 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,766 AND IF YOU WANT ANY DOUBT ABOUT 490 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:04,600 THAT, IT TOOK A GRAND JURY TWO 491 00:15:00,766 --> 00:15:06,200 MINUTES, ALL OF TWO MINUTES TO 492 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,400 INDICT KENNETH WALKER, THE MAN 493 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,633 IN BREONNA TAYLOR'S APARTMENT 494 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,033 WHO SHOT AT POLICE AND TO CHARGE 495 00:15:09,633 --> 00:15:12,566 HIM WITH MURDER. 496 00:15:11,033 --> 00:15:14,666 THAT CHARGE WAS EVENTUALLY 497 00:15:12,566 --> 00:15:16,466 DROPPED, BUT THAT GRAND JURY MET 498 00:15:14,666 --> 00:15:17,966 AND HEARD ONE POLICE OFFICER 499 00:15:16,466 --> 00:15:19,100 TESTIFY AND INDICTED HIM AFTER 500 00:15:17,966 --> 00:15:21,400 TWO MINUTES. 501 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:21,800 SO PROSECUTORS DO HAVE 502 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,333 INFLUENCE. 503 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,333 >> Bill: BILL, WE ALSO HAVE 504 00:15:23,333 --> 00:15:26,633 LEARNED THAT NAACP'S LEGAL 505 00:15:25,333 --> 00:15:30,033 DEFENSE AND EDUCATION FUND SAID 506 00:15:26,633 --> 00:15:30,733 IT WILL DOTS OWN REVIEW OF WHAT 507 00:15:30,033 --> 00:15:31,433 HAS COME DOWN. 508 00:15:30,733 --> 00:15:32,366 >> Bill Estep: THAT'S ONE OF 509 00:15:31,433 --> 00:15:33,966 THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT HAVING 510 00:15:32,366 --> 00:15:36,400 THIS INFORMATION RELEASED IS 511 00:15:33,966 --> 00:15:37,200 OTHER PEOPLE, OUTSIDE EXPERTS 512 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,800 AND ATTORNEYS ARE GOING TO BE 513 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,666 ABLE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT 514 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,000 EVIDENCE WAS PRESENTED AND 515 00:15:39,666 --> 00:15:42,566 FIGURE IT OUT IF THEY BELIEVE 516 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:46,266 THAT WHAT ULTIMATELY CAME OUT OF 517 00:15:42,566 --> 00:15:46,600 THE GRAND JURY WAS THE PROPER 518 00:15:46,266 --> 00:15:47,233 OUTCOME. 519 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,066 >> Bill: SENATE PRESIDENT 520 00:15:47,233 --> 00:15:49,066 ROBERT STIVERS SAID THERE WILL 521 00:15:48,066 --> 00:15:50,500 NOT BE A SPECIAL LEGISLATIVE 522 00:15:49,066 --> 00:15:51,433 SESSION ON POLICE REFORM BUT 523 00:15:50,500 --> 00:15:53,833 ALSO SAYS IT HAD WILL PROBABLY 524 00:15:51,433 --> 00:15:54,900 BE ADDED TO THE 2021 SESSION. 525 00:15:53,833 --> 00:15:56,533 >> Bill Estep: BE GIVEN 526 00:15:54,900 --> 00:15:57,233 EVERYONE EVER EVERYTHING THAT'S 527 00:15:56,533 --> 00:15:58,433 HAPPENED, THERE'S ALMOST 528 00:15:57,233 --> 00:15:59,900 CERTAINLY GOING TO BE A BILL 529 00:15:58,433 --> 00:16:02,266 DEALING WITH POLICE PROCEDURE IN 530 00:15:59,900 --> 00:16:04,766 THE NOTION LEGISLATURE. 531 00:16:02,266 --> 00:16:06,066 NOW, NEXT LEGISLATURE. 532 00:16:04,766 --> 00:16:07,566 WHERE THAT GOES, IT'S NOT SHEEN 533 00:16:06,066 --> 00:16:08,900 AS BIG AN ISSUE IN RURAL AREAS 534 00:16:07,566 --> 00:16:10,400 AS IN URBAN. 535 00:16:08,900 --> 00:16:10,700 WHERE THAT GOES IS HARD TO 536 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,400 TELL. 537 00:16:10,700 --> 00:16:14,033 >> Bill Estep: LOUISVILLE HAS 538 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:16,533 A NEW INTERIM POLICE CHIEF AND 539 00:16:14,033 --> 00:16:17,766 YVETTE GENTRY HAS TAKEN OVER AT 540 00:16:16,533 --> 00:16:21,166 THIS POINT. 541 00:16:17,766 --> 00:16:22,700 MANDY, IT'S A TIME OF NO 542 00:16:21,166 --> 00:16:26,766 QUESTION, SOME HUGE CHALLENGES 543 00:16:22,700 --> 00:16:28,233 FOR THAT DEPARTMENT, AND SHE HAS 544 00:16:26,766 --> 00:16:29,233 HUGE RESPONSIBILITY AHEAD. 545 00:16:28,233 --> 00:16:32,133 >> Mandy: ABSOLUTELY. 546 00:16:29,233 --> 00:16:33,666 AND WHILE SHE'S NOT A CANDIDATE 547 00:16:32,133 --> 00:16:34,666 FOR THE FULL-TIME JOB, SHE'S 548 00:16:33,666 --> 00:16:36,366 STEPPING INTO THIS POSITION, 549 00:16:34,666 --> 00:16:37,866 IT'S A DIFFICULT JOB AT ANY 550 00:16:36,366 --> 00:16:40,066 TIME, BUT CERTAINLY RIGHT NOW 551 00:16:37,866 --> 00:16:42,500 IT'S UNDER NATIONAL SCRUTINY. 552 00:16:40,066 --> 00:16:43,600 WITH THE DEPARTMENT ITSELF, 553 00:16:42,500 --> 00:16:47,000 REALLY FRACTURED AND FEELING 554 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:49,566 LIKE IT HAS NOT BEEN SUPPORTED 555 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,700 BY ITS LEADERSHIP OR BY MAYOR 556 00:16:49,566 --> 00:16:53,500 GREG FISCHER'S OFFICE. 557 00:16:50,700 --> 00:16:55,700 AND THEN OUTSIDE OF THAT, A LOT 558 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:56,433 OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS 559 00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:57,533 INTERACTING WITH THE COMMUNITY 560 00:16:56,433 --> 00:16:59,200 AND, AND THE COMMUNITY ITSELF 561 00:16:57,533 --> 00:17:00,900 YOU HAVE STRONG CALLS FROM SOME 562 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,500 OF THE PROTESTORS TO OUTRIGHT 563 00:17:00,900 --> 00:17:04,733 ABOLISH THE POLICE OR 564 00:17:02,500 --> 00:17:05,066 SIGNIFICANTLY DEFUND THEIR 565 00:17:04,733 --> 00:17:07,033 BUDGET. 566 00:17:05,066 --> 00:17:08,233 SO IT'S A DIFFICULT JOB, NOT TO 567 00:17:07,033 --> 00:17:09,466 MENTION THAT SHE'S ALSO IN 568 00:17:08,233 --> 00:17:12,300 CHARGE OF FIRST RESPONDERS IN 569 00:17:09,466 --> 00:17:12,566 THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC RIGHT 570 00:17:12,300 --> 00:17:13,833 NOW. 571 00:17:12,566 --> 00:17:16,433 >> Bill: THAT IS CERTAINLY A 572 00:17:13,833 --> 00:17:18,100 LOT TO TRY TO NAVIGATE THERE. 573 00:17:16,433 --> 00:17:19,833 WELL, KENTUCKY'S NEW EDUCATION 574 00:17:18,100 --> 00:17:21,100 COMMISSIONER, DR. JASON GLASS, 575 00:17:19,833 --> 00:17:23,766 SAYS SCHOOLS HAVE AN IMPORTANT 576 00:17:21,100 --> 00:17:25,300 ROLE TO PLAY IN THE ONGOING 577 00:17:23,766 --> 00:17:26,266 DISCUSSIONS ABOUT RACE RELATIONS 578 00:17:25,300 --> 00:17:27,966 AND SOCIAL JUSTICE. 579 00:17:26,266 --> 00:17:30,300 I INTERVIEWED HIM FOR THIS 580 00:17:27,966 --> 00:17:33,766 WEEKEND'S KENTUCKY NEWSMAKERS 581 00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:34,300 PROGRAM OVER ON KWKYT. 582 00:17:33,766 --> 00:17:35,733 >> SCHOOLS HAVE A 583 00:17:34,300 --> 00:17:39,133 RESPONSIBILITY, AS DOES 584 00:17:35,733 --> 00:17:40,366 EVERYONE, TO EXAMINE DO WE HAVE 585 00:17:39,133 --> 00:17:41,866 RACIST PRACTICES THAT ARE 586 00:17:40,366 --> 00:17:43,966 PRESENT WITHIN OUR SCHOOLS AND 587 00:17:41,866 --> 00:17:45,100 DO WE HAVE SYSTEMIC BIAS THAT'S 588 00:17:43,966 --> 00:17:46,400 PRESENT WITHIN OUR SCHOOLS. 589 00:17:45,100 --> 00:17:47,100 AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO CHANGE 590 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,100 THAT? 591 00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:53,433 AND REALLY WE WANT JUST AS A 592 00:17:50,100 --> 00:17:55,866 MORAL OBLIGATION FOR EDUCATORS, 593 00:17:53,433 --> 00:17:57,466 WE NEED TO SERVE EVERY CHILD 594 00:17:55,866 --> 00:17:59,366 REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEIR SKIN 595 00:17:57,466 --> 00:18:01,166 COLOR OR BELIEF SYSTEM OR 596 00:17:59,366 --> 00:18:02,666 BACKGROUND IS, WE NEED TO MAKE 597 00:18:01,166 --> 00:18:03,266 SURE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO A 598 00:18:02,666 --> 00:18:05,400 QUALITY EDUCATION. 599 00:18:03,266 --> 00:18:07,133 >> Bill: MANDY, DO YOU SENSE 600 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,033 THAT RACIAL JUSTICE AND 601 00:18:07,133 --> 00:18:12,033 HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVES WILL BE 602 00:18:09,033 --> 00:18:15,666 TAUGHT IN SOME NEW WAYS? 603 00:18:12,033 --> 00:18:16,666 >> Mandy: WELL, I JUST WANT TO 604 00:18:15,666 --> 00:18:19,100 SAY IT'S CERTAINLY SIGNIFICANT 605 00:18:16,666 --> 00:18:20,433 TO HEAR THIS COMMISSIONER COME 606 00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:22,100 IN AND IMMEDIATELY ADDRESS THE 607 00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:23,500 FACT THAT THERE COULD BE 608 00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:27,766 POLICIES ACROSS KENTUCKY THAT 609 00:18:23,500 --> 00:18:29,366 ARE RACIST, AND I THINK YOU 610 00:18:27,766 --> 00:18:31,666 UNDERSTATE THE SIGNIFICANCE WHEN 611 00:18:29,366 --> 00:18:32,966 YOU DO HEAR THAT FROM A WHITE 612 00:18:31,666 --> 00:18:34,033 MAN. 613 00:18:32,966 --> 00:18:35,400 FORMER COMMISSIONER WAYNE LEWIS 614 00:18:34,033 --> 00:18:39,033 WHO WAS BLACK, HE TALKED ABOUT 615 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:40,133 THE ISSUES, THE DISPARITIES 616 00:18:39,033 --> 00:18:41,433 FACING BLACK CHILDREN HIGHLY 617 00:18:40,133 --> 00:18:43,133 WHILE HE WAS IN THAT POSITION. 618 00:18:41,433 --> 00:18:44,066 BUT I THINK IT'S A ANOTHER THING 619 00:18:43,133 --> 00:18:45,466 THAT HOLDS SIGNIFICANCE IN THE 620 00:18:44,066 --> 00:18:47,400 STATE TO HEAR IT COMING FROM A 621 00:18:45,466 --> 00:18:48,400 WHITE MAN, AND I THINK WE'RE 622 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,100 ALREADY SEEING SOME TRACTION ON 623 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,700 THIS FRONT. 624 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:53,033 WE SAW THIS WEEK OWENSBORO 625 00:18:51,700 --> 00:18:55,933 PUBLIC SCHOOLS MOVING FORWARD ON 626 00:18:53,033 --> 00:18:57,566 ITS OWN RACIAL EQUITY PLAN. 627 00:18:55,933 --> 00:18:58,466 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT JEFFERSON 628 00:18:57,566 --> 00:19:01,033 COUNTY HAS DONE ALREADY. 629 00:18:58,466 --> 00:19:03,666 I DO THINK ONE THING THAT I WANT 630 00:19:01,033 --> 00:19:06,000 TO POINT OUT FOR A SECOND IS 631 00:19:03,666 --> 00:19:07,500 JUST SCHOOLS MAKING THE SPACE 632 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,600 FOR KIDS TO TALK ABOUT RACE AND 633 00:19:07,500 --> 00:19:11,133 TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON 634 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,933 WITH BREONNA TAYLOR AND GEORGE 635 00:19:11,133 --> 00:19:15,566 FLOYD AND BEYOND THAT, AND WE 636 00:19:12,933 --> 00:19:16,866 SAW THAT LAST WEEK AFTER THE 637 00:19:15,566 --> 00:19:18,166 GRAND JURY ANNOUNCEMENT WHERE 638 00:19:16,866 --> 00:19:19,366 YOU HAD SCHOOLS IN LOUISVILLE, 639 00:19:18,166 --> 00:19:22,366 OF COURSE, BUT ALSO ALL THE WAY 640 00:19:19,366 --> 00:19:25,200 OUT IN HAZARD WHERE THEY HAD 641 00:19:22,366 --> 00:19:26,633 KIDS TAKING THE TIME AND BEING 642 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,233 ALLOWED THAT TIME, IS WHAT I 643 00:19:26,633 --> 00:19:30,966 SHOULD SAY, TO TALK ABOUT THIS 644 00:19:29,233 --> 00:19:31,866 REALLY TOUGH STUFF THAT'S 645 00:19:30,966 --> 00:19:32,866 IMPACTING THEIR LIVES AND 646 00:19:31,866 --> 00:19:34,366 THEY'RE SEEING IT ON SOCIAL 647 00:19:32,866 --> 00:19:36,333 MEDIA AND TV, AND THEY HAVE 648 00:19:34,366 --> 00:19:37,600 QUESTIONS ABOUT IT AND NEED SOME 649 00:19:36,333 --> 00:19:40,200 GUIDANCE FROM AN ADULT. 650 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,600 BEYOND THAT WE'RE SEEING IN 651 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:45,366 LOUISVILLE A MOVE TO REVIEW ALL 652 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,866 OF THE SCHOOLS' MASCOTS AND 653 00:19:45,366 --> 00:19:49,500 SCHOOLS' NAMES TO SEE IF THEY 654 00:19:46,866 --> 00:19:51,800 HAVE ANY RACIAL BIAS TO THEM. 655 00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:53,600 JUST THIS WEEK I WROTE A STORY 656 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,833 ABOUT THE BROWN SCHOOL, WHICH 657 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,833 ONLY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO 658 00:19:54,833 --> 00:19:58,333 ACTUALLY TOOK THE FULL NAME OF 659 00:19:56,833 --> 00:20:02,066 JAY GRAHAM BROWN WHO, OF COURSE, 660 00:19:58,333 --> 00:20:03,566 WAS A VERY PROMINENT BUSINESSMAN 661 00:20:02,066 --> 00:20:05,233 AND PHILANTHROPIST IN LOUISVILLE 662 00:20:03,566 --> 00:20:07,566 BUT HE ALSO HAD A HISTORY OF 663 00:20:05,233 --> 00:20:10,200 BEING A STAUNCH SEGREGATIONIST. 664 00:20:07,566 --> 00:20:12,533 SO THAT SCHOOL'S PARENT/TEACHER 665 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,366 COMMITTEE IS MOVING FORWARD WITH 666 00:20:12,533 --> 00:20:14,333 THE PROCESS OF POSSIBLY CHANGING 667 00:20:13,366 --> 00:20:16,866 THAT NAME. 668 00:20:14,333 --> 00:20:18,666 OBVIOUSLY, NAME CHANGES ARE 669 00:20:16,866 --> 00:20:20,200 SYMBOLIC, THOUGH, BILL, SO 670 00:20:18,666 --> 00:20:21,400 BEYOND THAT I THINK WHAT'S GOING 671 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,800 TO REALLY NEED TO BE DONE TO 672 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,233 MAKE A DIFFERENCE, AND THIS IS 673 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,733 WHAT EDUCATORS WOULD TELL YOU 674 00:20:24,233 --> 00:20:26,866 YOU, IS A HARD LOOK AT THE 675 00:20:25,733 --> 00:20:28,766 CURRICULUM AND WHAT STUDENTS ARE 676 00:20:26,866 --> 00:20:30,966 BEING TAUGHT, HOW THEY'RE BEING 677 00:20:28,766 --> 00:20:31,933 TAUGHT IT WHEN IT COMES TO 678 00:20:30,966 --> 00:20:34,700 AMERICAN HISTORY. 679 00:20:31,933 --> 00:20:36,100 >> Bill: AND IT SOUNDS LIKE 680 00:20:34,700 --> 00:20:37,000 THE NEW COMMISSIONER WANTS TO GO 681 00:20:36,100 --> 00:20:38,300 THERE WITH THAT. 682 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,133 2020 IS QUITE AN ELECTION YEAR, 683 00:20:38,300 --> 00:20:41,633 AS YOU KNOW. 684 00:20:39,133 --> 00:20:42,633 THE SECRETARY OF STATE HAS NOT 685 00:20:41,633 --> 00:20:44,066 APPROVED FAYETTE COUNTY'S PLAN 686 00:20:42,633 --> 00:20:45,766 FOR THE ELECTION. 687 00:20:44,066 --> 00:20:47,900 SECRETARY OF STATE ADAM SAYS 688 00:20:45,766 --> 00:20:49,100 THAT THERE AREN'T ENOUGH 689 00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:50,300 IN-PERSON POLLING PLACES. 690 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:51,400 THE COUNTY CLERK SAYS HE'S OUT 691 00:20:50,300 --> 00:20:52,200 OF OPTIONS. 692 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,866 BILL, THE PROCESS OF THE 693 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,733 ELECTION IS STILL AN ISSUE. 694 00:20:53,866 --> 00:20:56,233 >> Bill Estep: IT IS. 695 00:20:54,733 --> 00:20:58,166 AND WE'RE A MONTH OUT AND IT'S 696 00:20:56,233 --> 00:20:59,166 SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE 697 00:20:58,166 --> 00:21:00,533 RESOLVED PRETTY QUICKLY. 698 00:20:59,166 --> 00:21:02,466 EVERY COUNTY IS GOING -- THEY 699 00:21:00,533 --> 00:21:03,466 HAVE TO HAVE THAT APPROVED BY 700 00:21:02,466 --> 00:21:04,200 ADAMS, BY THE SECRETARY OF 701 00:21:03,466 --> 00:21:06,700 STATE'S OFFICE. 702 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,200 I THINK THE LAST I CHECKED, 703 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:08,700 ABOUT 60 OR 70 HAD BEEN 704 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,633 APPROVED. 705 00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:10,966 SO THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT 706 00:21:10,633 --> 00:21:13,433 PROCESS. 707 00:21:10,966 --> 00:21:14,000 BUT THEY DO NEED TO RESOLVE THAT 708 00:21:13,433 --> 00:21:15,566 PRETTY QUICKLY. 709 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,366 >> Bill: IN THE CLOSECLY 710 00:21:15,566 --> 00:21:19,066 WATCHED U.S. SENATE RACE THERE 711 00:21:16,366 --> 00:21:21,100 WILL BE A TELEVISED DEBATE 712 00:21:19,066 --> 00:21:23,133 OCTOBER 12TH WITH AMY McGRATH 713 00:21:21,100 --> 00:21:25,833 AND SENATOR MITCH McCONNELL, 714 00:21:23,133 --> 00:21:26,633 GREAT TV STATIONS THAT BE BE 715 00:21:25,833 --> 00:21:28,666 CARRYING THAT. 716 00:21:26,633 --> 00:21:30,466 CHRIS, THIS IS A RACE WATCHED 717 00:21:28,666 --> 00:21:31,033 AROUND THE COUNTRY WITH A LOT OF 718 00:21:30,466 --> 00:21:32,166 MONEY FLOWING IN. 719 00:21:31,033 --> 00:21:34,400 >> Chris: YEAH, THERE'S 720 00:21:32,166 --> 00:21:35,066 OBVIOUSLY LIGHT OF ANTICIPATE 721 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,200 PATHY FOR MITCH McCONNELL 722 00:21:35,066 --> 00:21:40,733 AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT HAS 723 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:44,466 FLOWN INTO THE COFFERS OF AMY 724 00:21:40,733 --> 00:21:46,466 McGRATH, SO IT'S GOING TO BE A 725 00:21:44,466 --> 00:21:48,966 VERY EXPENSIVE RACE, BUT IF YOU 726 00:21:46,466 --> 00:21:54,133 JUST LOOK AT WHAT WE DO KNOW 727 00:21:48,966 --> 00:21:54,800 FROM THE POLLS, AT 5:38 THE DATA 728 00:21:54,133 --> 00:21:57,133 WEBSITE, ACCORDING TO THEIR 729 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,166 MODEL WITH McCONNELL HAS A 96 730 00:21:57,133 --> 00:22:02,833 IN 100 CHANCE OF CARRYING AND 731 00:21:59,166 --> 00:22:03,733 BEING RE-ELECTED AGAIN IN 732 00:22:02,833 --> 00:22:05,366 KENTUCKY. 733 00:22:03,733 --> 00:22:06,100 SO THERE'S DISCUSSION NATIONALLY 734 00:22:05,366 --> 00:22:09,166 ABOUT WHETHER DEMOCRATS SHOULD 735 00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:09,700 BE SPENDING THAT MONEY ON MORE 736 00:22:09,166 --> 00:22:11,700 COMPETITIVE RACES. 737 00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:14,000 >> Bill: AND YOU HAVE TO THINK 738 00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:15,233 THAT AMY McGRATH SEES THE 739 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,266 OPPORTUNITY FOR DEBATE AS AN 740 00:22:15,233 --> 00:22:17,633 OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE GAIN SOME 741 00:22:17,266 --> 00:22:18,866 MOMENTUM. 742 00:22:17,633 --> 00:22:20,666 >> Bill Estep: THAT'S JUST A 743 00:22:18,866 --> 00:22:21,866 FREE -- THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GET 744 00:22:20,666 --> 00:22:24,600 TO SCORE POINTS FROM WITHOUT 745 00:22:21,866 --> 00:22:24,900 HAVING TO SPEND A BUNCH OF 746 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,300 MONEY. 747 00:22:24,900 --> 00:22:28,733 >> Bill: TOURISM IS ANY LARGE 748 00:22:27,300 --> 00:22:30,566 GROWING SECTOR IN KENTUCKY AND 749 00:22:28,733 --> 00:22:31,966 MANY ARE MAKING PLANS OR FOR 750 00:22:30,566 --> 00:22:33,166 AFTER THE PANDEMIC. 751 00:22:31,966 --> 00:22:34,366 FIRST TOUGH NEWS. 752 00:22:33,166 --> 00:22:36,800 IF KENTUCKY SPEED WAY AT SPARTA 753 00:22:34,366 --> 00:22:37,266 HAS LOST ITS FILL NATION WITH 754 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,300 NASCAR, BILL. 755 00:22:37,266 --> 00:22:39,333 >> Bill Estep: THAT'S 756 00:22:38,300 --> 00:22:41,000 SOMETHING THAT HAD THAT RACE FOR 757 00:22:39,333 --> 00:22:43,033 MANY YEARS, THE NASCAR RACE. 758 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,933 AND A LOT OF FANS HAD GOTTEN 759 00:22:43,033 --> 00:22:46,033 USED TO IT. 760 00:22:43,933 --> 00:22:46,533 IT WAS OBVIOUSLY REAL POPULAR IN 761 00:22:46,033 --> 00:22:48,666 KENTUCKY. 762 00:22:46,533 --> 00:22:50,466 BUT IT'S IN A SPACE, A LOT OF 763 00:22:48,666 --> 00:22:52,400 THE OTHER TRACKS ARE FURTHER 764 00:22:50,466 --> 00:22:54,300 DEEP SOUTH. 765 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,100 BRISTOL, VIRGINIA'S PROBABLY THE 766 00:22:54,300 --> 00:22:56,733 CLOSEST ONE. 767 00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:57,333 YOU HAVE MICHIGAN NORTH OF 768 00:22:56,733 --> 00:22:58,166 HERE. 769 00:22:57,333 --> 00:23:01,066 SO THAT WAS KIND OF A CENTRAL 770 00:22:58,166 --> 00:23:02,933 SPOT WHERE FANS REALLY WERE USED 771 00:23:01,066 --> 00:23:03,600 TO COMING TO. 772 00:23:02,933 --> 00:23:04,200 >> Bill: BULK OF THE GENERAL 773 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,266 MANAGER IS OPTIMISTIC. 774 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,166 HE SAID THERE WILL STILL BE WILD 775 00:23:06,266 --> 00:23:09,133 ADVENTURES HEAD HOOD. 776 00:23:07,166 --> 00:23:10,100 WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS THERE. 777 00:23:09,133 --> 00:23:12,500 KEENELAND AND THE OWNERS OF 778 00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:13,900 KENTUCKY DOWNS HAVE BIG PLANS IN 779 00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:15,633 SOUTHEASTERN KENTUCKY FOR RACING 780 00:23:13,900 --> 00:23:16,900 FACILITIES IN CORBIN AND 781 00:23:15,633 --> 00:23:17,600 WILLIAMSBURG, BUT THERE'S THE 782 00:23:16,900 --> 00:23:19,666 SUPREME COURT RULING ON 783 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,566 HISTORICAL RACING THAT COULD BE 784 00:23:19,666 --> 00:23:23,433 A FACTOR ON HOW AND WHETHER AND 785 00:23:21,566 --> 00:23:24,133 IF THEY GET TO PROCEED. 786 00:23:23,433 --> 00:23:26,100 >> Bill Estep: YEAH, THAT'S 787 00:23:24,133 --> 00:23:27,200 GOING TO TAKE A WHILE TO SHAKE 788 00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:30,033 OUT BECAUSE THE SUPREME COURT 789 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:32,233 SEND IT BACK TO JUDGE WIN KATE 790 00:23:30,033 --> 00:23:33,533 IN FRANKLIN CIRCUIT, SO HE'S 791 00:23:32,233 --> 00:23:34,566 GOING TO HAVE TO ROLE RULE GOING 792 00:23:33,533 --> 00:23:35,866 FORWARD FROM THAT. 793 00:23:34,566 --> 00:23:37,333 WE WERE GOTTEN KNOW WHAT'S 794 00:23:35,866 --> 00:23:39,800 EXACTLY GOING TO HAPPEN PUT BUT 795 00:23:37,333 --> 00:23:41,600 THERE IS WITH A NEW PRANN FOR A 796 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,533 NEW SARN BRED TRACK IN CORBIN 797 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,233 AND GAMING PARLOR IN 798 00:23:43,533 --> 00:23:46,533 WILLIAMSBURG WITH 400 OF THESE 799 00:23:45,233 --> 00:23:47,800 HISTORICAL RACING MACHINES. 800 00:23:46,533 --> 00:23:49,566 THE MAYORS DOWN THERE, I TALKED 801 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,233 TO BOTH OF THEM. 802 00:23:49,566 --> 00:23:51,966 THEY EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL 803 00:23:51,233 --> 00:23:52,333 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATED 804 00:23:51,966 --> 00:23:55,233 WITH THAT. 805 00:23:52,333 --> 00:23:55,533 WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHERE THAT 806 00:23:55,233 --> 00:23:56,733 GOES. 807 00:23:55,533 --> 00:23:58,433 SOME LEGISLATORS HAVE SAID WE 808 00:23:56,733 --> 00:24:00,833 MAY NEED LEGISLATURE TO ADDRESS 809 00:23:58,433 --> 00:24:01,300 THAT ISSUE TO SPECIFICALLY 810 00:24:00,833 --> 00:24:02,933 LEGALIZE THOSE. 811 00:24:01,300 --> 00:24:04,666 >> Bill: CHURCHILL DOWNS IS 812 00:24:02,933 --> 00:24:07,033 GOING AHEAD WITH PLANS FOR A NEW 813 00:24:04,666 --> 00:24:08,466 STILT IN, WHAT, NEWPORT? 814 00:24:07,033 --> 00:24:09,666 >> Chris: YEAH, AND OPEN 815 00:24:08,466 --> 00:24:11,100 TODAY, ACTUALLY. 816 00:24:09,666 --> 00:24:14,333 NEWPORT GAMING AND RACING OR 817 00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:16,033 RACING AND GAMING. 818 00:24:14,333 --> 00:24:18,233 AND IT IS HISTORICAL HORSE 819 00:24:16,033 --> 00:24:20,966 RACING MACHINES, WHICH YOU'D BE 820 00:24:18,233 --> 00:24:21,866 HARD PRESS TODAY TELL THE 821 00:24:20,966 --> 00:24:23,466 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SHOWS AND 822 00:24:21,866 --> 00:24:24,200 SLOTS MACHINES. 823 00:24:23,466 --> 00:24:26,733 THEY'RE CERTAINLY DESIGNED TO 824 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,133 LOOK AND FEEL LIKE SLOT 825 00:24:26,733 --> 00:24:28,600 MACHINES. 826 00:24:27,133 --> 00:24:30,166 AND THAT SUPREME COURT DECISION 827 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,366 DOES THROW A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY 828 00:24:30,166 --> 00:24:34,166 INTO THIS VERY BIG GROWING 829 00:24:32,366 --> 00:24:36,100 INDUSTRY IN KENTUCKY. 830 00:24:34,166 --> 00:24:37,100 NOW, CHURCHILL DOWNS SAYS 831 00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:38,900 BECAUSE THEIR PARTICULAR GAMING 832 00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:40,500 SYSTEM WAS NOT EXAMINED AS PART 833 00:24:38,900 --> 00:24:41,800 OF THE COURT CASE THAT MADE ITS 834 00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:44,633 WAY UP TO THE SUPREME COURT, 835 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,733 THAT THEY ARE NOT MEL IMPACTED 836 00:24:44,633 --> 00:24:48,166 BY THIS. 837 00:24:45,733 --> 00:24:52,166 I THINK IN ADDITION TO LOOKING 838 00:24:48,166 --> 00:24:55,000 AT THE TRIAL JUDGE, ALSO I GOT 839 00:24:52,166 --> 00:24:56,400 WORD TODAY THAT THE STATE HORSE 840 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,833 RACING COMMISSION AND THE 841 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,733 RACETRACKS HAVE ASKED FOR AN 842 00:24:57,833 --> 00:25:00,600 EXTENSION OF TIME TO FILE 843 00:24:59,733 --> 00:25:04,333 PLEADINGS WITH THE SUPREME COURT 844 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:07,666 TO ASK THEM TO RE-HEAR THE CASE 845 00:25:04,333 --> 00:25:10,466 AND CHANGE THEIR 7-0 DECISION. 846 00:25:07,666 --> 00:25:11,366 SO THE LEGAL BATTLE CONTINUES. 847 00:25:10,466 --> 00:25:13,366 >> Bill: SOME DEVELOPERS BIG 848 00:25:11,366 --> 00:25:14,666 PLANS FOR A MAJOR RESORT IN THE 849 00:25:13,366 --> 00:25:17,566 RED RIVER GORGE, BILL. 850 00:25:14,666 --> 00:25:20,233 >> Bill Estep: THAT WOULD BE A 851 00:25:17,566 --> 00:25:21,266 LUXURY RESORT, TRAIL 852 00:25:20,233 --> 00:25:22,633 ENHANCEMENTS, REGIONAL MASHING, 853 00:25:21,266 --> 00:25:23,666 VISITOR CENTER, THOSE SORTS OF 854 00:25:22,633 --> 00:25:25,033 THINGS THAT COULD REALLY 855 00:25:23,666 --> 00:25:26,666 INCREASE TOURISM IN THAT AREA. 856 00:25:25,033 --> 00:25:27,966 THERE ARE STILL SOME QUESTIONS 857 00:25:26,666 --> 00:25:30,666 ABOUT WHERE THE FINANCE, WHERE 858 00:25:27,966 --> 00:25:34,000 THE MONEY COMES FROM FOR THAT. 859 00:25:30,666 --> 00:25:34,666 >> Bill: LONDON AND CORBIN ARE 860 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,133 FIGHTING FOREVEROVER A NAPE 861 00:25:34,666 --> 00:25:37,400 CHANGE DOWN THERE, WHO CAN ANNEX 862 00:25:37,133 --> 00:25:38,566 IT. 863 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,666 >> Bill Estep: LONDON HAVE 864 00:25:38,566 --> 00:25:42,566 ANNEX IT, THE RIGHT OF I-75 TO 865 00:25:40,666 --> 00:25:44,366 GET TO CORBIN. 866 00:25:42,566 --> 00:25:46,366 THERE'S GOING TO BE PART OF 867 00:25:44,366 --> 00:25:47,400 LONDON THAT'S NINE MILES WEITZ 868 00:25:46,366 --> 00:25:48,900 AND 250 FEET WIPED. 869 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,500 CORBIN HAS CHALLENGED THAT IN 870 00:25:48,900 --> 00:25:50,166 COURT. 871 00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:51,933 THERE'S TO A LAWSUIT. 872 00:25:50,166 --> 00:25:53,733 >> Bill: MANDY, QUICKLY, FALL 873 00:25:51,933 --> 00:25:56,133 BREAK FOR SOME SCHOOLS. 874 00:25:53,733 --> 00:25:58,266 I KNOW THE PERSONNEL AT THOSE 875 00:25:56,133 --> 00:26:01,566 SCHOOLS HOPE EVERYBODY IS SAFE 876 00:25:58,266 --> 00:26:02,233 OUT THERE WHEN THEY'RE AWAY. 877 00:26:01,566 --> 00:26:04,366 MESSENGER STAY SAFE. 878 00:26:02,233 --> 00:26:06,133 AND A MARILYN IN KENTUCKY THE 879 00:26:04,366 --> 00:26:07,700 THING TO DO IS TO GO TO FLORIDA, 880 00:26:06,133 --> 00:26:08,933 WHICH I KNOW THE GOVERNOR IS 881 00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:10,800 HOPING FOLKS CHOOSE NOT TO DO 882 00:26:08,933 --> 00:26:12,133 THIS YEAR, BUT HOPEFULLY 883 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,466 EVERYBODY DOES HAVE TIME TO 884 00:26:12,133 --> 00:26:15,266 RELAX AND GEAR UP FOR WHAT'S 885 00:26:13,466 --> 00:26:15,566 GOING TO BE A COLD WINTER, I 886 00:26:15,266 --> 00:26:18,900 THINK. 887 00:26:15,566 --> 00:26:19,500 >> Bill: THE NEW GRASS CROYLE 888 00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:22,800 SURVIVAL WAS AMONG THOSE 889 00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:23,633 INDUCTED INTO THE BLUEGRASS HALL 890 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,766 OF FAME IN OWENSBORO. 891 00:26:23,633 --> 00:26:29,533 HAD A VIRTUAL CEREMONY. 892 00:26:26,766 --> 00:26:31,566 THE JOHNS BOYS AND THE STATION 893 00:26:29,533 --> 00:26:31,566 OWNER J.T. GRAY ALSO INDUCTED.