>> Bill: THE CANDIDATES FOR
GOVERNOR MEET FACE TO FACE ON
LIVE TV AND RETURN TO THE
CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
RAND PAUL DEPOSITS THE MONEY FOR
A KENTUCKY PRESIDENTIAL CAUCUS
AS JEB BUSH PLANS A TRIP TO
LOUISVILLE TO RAISE MONEY.
THE SHOOTING DEATH OF A STATE
TROOPER COULD SPAWN CHANGES BY
THE STATE LEGISLATURE.
LEXINGTON'S RED MILE GAMBLES ON
SLOT-LIKE MACHINES AS KEENELAND
PREPARES FOR THE SPOTLIGHT OF
THE BREEDERS' CUP.
ON THIS LAST WEEKEND OF SUMMER,
"COMMENT" ON NEXT IS KET.
The candidates for governor
GOOD EVENING.
I'M BILL BRYANT.
WELCOME TO "COMMENT ON
KENTUCKY," A LOOK BACK AT THE
WEEK'S NEWS IN THE COMMONWEALTH.
OUR GUESTS ARE NICK STORM,
ANCHOR AND MANAGING EDITOR OF
PURE POLITICS ON CN¦2,
JANET PATTON, REPORTER FOR THE
LEXINGTON HERALD-LEADER,
AND TOM LOFTUS, FRANKFORT BUREAU
CHIEF FOR THE COURIER-JOURNAL.
IT'S BEEN AN EVENTFUL AND BUSY
WEEK AND AB EVENTFUL SEASON HERE
IN KENTUCKY AS WE'RE IN THE
ELECTION TIME AND HEADING INTO
FALL WITH ALL THOSE EVENTS.
THE THREE CANDIDATES FOR
GOVERNOR WERE ON STAGE IN
LOUISVILLE.
THERE WAS A LOT OF HOSPITALITY
CERTAINLY BY THE FOLKS AT BELL
BELLARMINE UNIVERSITY.
I ENJOYED BEING ON THE PANEL
THERE.
BUT THINGS WERE NOT SO NICE BEN
DEMOCRAT JACK CONWAY AND
REPUBLICAN MATT BENNETT STAGE UP
THERE.
WHAT ARE THE TAKE A WAYS -- MATT
BEVIN.
FIRST LIVE TELEVISED DEBATE OF
GUBERNATORIAL CAMPAIGN?
>> I THINK IT GIVES US A JUMPING
OFF POINT TO SEE WHERE THESE
GUYS ARE AT EARLY ON AND FOLLOW
THEM OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL
DEBATES.
THERE'S AT LEAST FOUR TELEVISED
DEBATES, AND AS YOU SAID, BILL,
THERE WAS PLENTY OF SHARP ELBOWS
THIS WEEK, AND I THINK THAT WE
ALL KIND OF EXPECTED THAT.
BUT THE SURPRISE I THINK IS THAT
SOME PEOPLE MAY HAVE BEEN DREW
CURTIS' PERFORMANCE.
>> MY TAKEAWAY -- DIDN'T SEE ANY
MAJOR GAFFE, A GAME-CHANGING
GAFFE IN THIS THING.
THERE WERE A LOT OF JABS, IN
FACT, A FEW BOLL OH PUNCHES
THROWN IN THIS THING.
I THINK BOTH CANDIDATES DID WHAT
THEY WANTED TO DO IN THAT REGARD
BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY
GAME-CHANGING EVENTS.
I AGREE WITH YOUR POINT ON DREW
CURTIS.
AT THE SAME TIME, THERE ARE,
THOUGH, EXPECTATIONS FOR A THIRD
PARTY CANDIDATE.
I THINK DREW CURTIS, HE WAS
FUNNY, HE WAS ARTICULATE.
BUT NOBODY IN THE MEDIA IS GOING
AROUND -- NOR ARE HIS OPPONENTS
GOING AROUND EXAMINING A TRACK
RECORD THERE.
>> NARRATOR: IT WAS EASY
THERE --
>> Nick: I THINK IT'S MANAGING
THE EXPECTATIONS.
THOSE OF US THAT FOLLOW CONWAY,
WE ALL REMEMBER WHEN HE GETS HIT
TIME AND TIME AGAIN BY PEOPLE
WITHIN THE PARTY, HE STRUGGLED
AT TIMES, HE WASE PERSPIRING TO
START OUT WITH, SEEMED OUT OF
STAGE, AND I THINK THOSE ARE
THINGS HE OFTEN GETS HIT ON.
ON THE FLIP SIDE MATT BEVIN CAME
ACROSS AS THE SALESMAN THAT HE'S
KNOWN AS IN HIS LOUISVILLE
BUSINESS, AND, YOU KNOW, AS YOU
SAID, DREW CURTIS DOESN'T HAVE
ANY EXPECTATIONS SO.
>> Bill Goodman: DREW TURTIS
SEEMED TO RELL --
>> Bill Goodman: DREW CUTTER
US SEEMED TO RELISH THE SPOT.
DID HE GAIN GETTING THAT TYPE OF
ATTENTION?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
HE CAN'T BUY THAT KIND OF
EXPOSURE NOR CAN HE AFFORD IT?
>> AND WHO KNOWS, HE COULD TAKE
OFF AFTER SOMETHING LIKE THIS IF
HE HAD THE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS
OF DOLLARS BEHIND THE TWO OTHER
CANDIDATES.
MOSTLY FROM THEIR RESPECT TIFF
GOVERNOR'S NATIONAL GOVERNORS
ASSOCIATIONS.
BUT I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE AGAIN,
I DON'T THINK IT'S -- THERE
WASN'T ANYBODY ON THAT STAGE
ATTACKING DREW CURTIS.
I THINK -- I THINK EVERYBODY
LOVES -- I MEAN, HE'S THE PERSON
YOU WOULD WANT TO GO OUT AND
HAVE A BEER WITH AMONG THOSE
THREE.
>> IT'S A ONE HOUR DEBATE SO THE
TIME CONSTRAINTS ARE TIGHT FOR
EVERYBODY INCLUDING THE
PANELISTS ASKING THE QUESTIONS.
YOU WERE ASKED TO KEEP IT TO 20
SECONDS AND THEN THE PANELS,
THOSE RESPONDING HAD TO GIVE
VERY QUICK ANSWERS, AND THEY DID
THAT.
AND SOMETIMES, JANET, THAT
RESULTS IN THINGS BEING STATED
IN A WAY THAT MAYBE IF YOU HAD A
SECOND GO AT IT YOU MIGHT NOT
PUT IT THAT WAY.
>> I THINK IF CONWAY HAD A
SECOND GO AT THE COMMENT ABOUT
THE SEXUAL HARASSMENT CASE IN
THE LEGISLATURE, I THINK HE
WOULD TAKE ANOTHER WHACK AT THAT
BECAUSE HE I THINK WAS TRYING TO
SAY THAT HE'S STRONG WITH WOMEN,
HE HAS A LOT OF STRONG WOMEN
LIKE HIS WIFE LIKE HIS RUNNING
MATE SEVERAL AND HIS SANNIE
ORVILLE, BUT WHEN HE THREW IN
HIS DOG IT CAME ACROSS FLIP.
>> I THINK WE'LL SEE THAT EARLY
NEXT WEEK AND IT SETS THE
PERFECT STAGE JENEAN HAMPTON HAS
ALREADY RELEASED A STATEMENT ON
IT.
OF COURSE, SANNIE OVERLY, JACK
CONWAY'S RUNNING MATE IS IN THE
LEGISLATURE, DEALT WITH ISSUES.
SHE TRIED TO AT ONE POINT, CLAY
TRIED TO DEPOSE HOR.
HE DIDN'T MAKE IT BEFORE THE
JUDGE.
BUT THAT WAS TOSSED OUT THERE AS
BAIT TO HURRY UP AND SETTLE THAT
LAWSUIT BEFORE IT BECOMES
POLITICAL, SO I WOULD EXPECT TO
IT COME UP AGAIN.
>> I INTERVIEWED UK POLITICAL
SCIENCE PROFESSOR STEPHEN VAUS
TODAY WHO SAID ONLY THE TRULY
APPLICABLE ENGAGED ARE PAYING
ATTENTIONY EVEN AT THIS POINT.
IF YOU WANT TO SEE PEOPLE PAYING
ATTENTION IT WILL BE CLOSER TO
THE ELECTION.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE STAKES
GET HIGHER AS THESEYY DEBATES
GET CLOSER TO THE ELECTION?
>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY
DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
PEOPLE ARE WONDEING WHETHER
THE WILDCATS CAN BEAT FLORIDA
TOMORROW.
BUT AS IT GETS CLOSER, I MEAN,
THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION, BUT AS
IT GETS CLOSER THE STAKE ALWAYS
GET HIGHER, AND THE ADS STEP UP
AND WE'RE ALREADY SEEING A LOT
OF THOSE, AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE
A LOT MORE.
>> AND I'LL SAY THIS, TOO, OF
THE DEBATE.
YOU COULD ALMOST SHE THAT MATT
BENCH HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON ISSUES
THROUGHOUT THE RACE.
HE'S MOVING OVER TO THEMES, AND
I THINK THIS IS AN AREA FOR MATT
THAT HE PROBABLY NEEDS TO GET ON
IF HE WANT TO HAVE A BETTER
CHANCE OF GETTING IN THE
GOVERNOR'S MANSION.
BY THEMES I MEAN THE KIM DAVIS
SITUATION, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN
ROWAN COUNTY RIGHT NOW AND
TRYING TO MILK THAT POLITICALLY
FOR ALL IT IS WORTH WITH HIS
BASE OF SUPPORTERS.
HE GETS TO TURN OUT THE GROUP OF
PEOPLE THAT ARE IN SUPPORT OF
WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO.
OBVIOUSLY JACK CONWAY'S STRUCK A
POSITION THAT HE HAD FOR A
COUPLE OF YEARS NOW.
CONWAY'S GOT TO MAKE SURE AND
BRING THAT BASE OUT TO COUNTER
WHATEVER BEVIN BRINGS OUT.
>> AND WHEN BEVIN GOT A CHANCE,
HE RETURNED TO THAT WHEN HE
COULD.
WHETHER HE WAS ASKED ABOUT IT OR
UNPROMPTED HE BROUGHT IT UP A
COUPLE OF TIMES.
JANET, YOU FOLLOWED UP ON THE
SAGA WERE BROWN COUNTY CLERK KIM
DAVIS HER REFUSAL TO ISSUE
MARRIAGE LICENSES.
THERE'S BEEN MORE LEGAL ACTION
THIS WRECK.
>> RIGHT.
YOU DIDN'T GO OUT TO BROWN
COUNTY BUT JOHN CHEVES AND BILL
ESTEP AND OUR PHOTOGRAPHER
PABLO, THROW HIS NAME IN BECAUSE
IF YOU SEE THE PICTURES YOU SEE
WHAT A CRUSH IT IS.
IT'S A CRAZY SCENE OUT THERE.
SHE WENT BACK TO WORK ON MONDAY
AFTER SHE MADE A STATEMENT TO
REPORTERS SAYING SHE WOULDN'T
INTERFERE WITH HER DEPUTIES
ISSUING LICENSES BUT THAT THEY
WOULD SAY THEY WERE ISSUED UNDER
THE FEDERAL COURT ORDER, WHICH
IS WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
SHE HAD SOME OTHER LEGAL ISSUES
BEFORE THE COURT WHICH HAVE BEEN
BATTED DOWN.
LATE TODAY HER DEPUTY BRIAN
MASON, THE ONE WHO HAS ISSUED
THE SAME-SEX LICENSES OR THE
MARRIAGE LICENSES TO SAME-SEX
COUPLES -- THEY'RE THE SAME
LANCE TO EVERYBODY NOW -- SAID
IN A FILING TO BUNNING THAT HE
HAS CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER OR
NOT SAYING THAT HAS GONE A STEP
TOO FAR AND THE ACLU IS LOOKING
FOR THAT AS WELL.
>> SAYING WHAT?
>> THAT THEY WERE FILED
SAYING -- UNDER THE COURT ORDER
AND THAT HE HAS CONCERNS THAT
THAT MAY -- HIS LAWYER SAID THAT
THEY MAY RISE TO THE LEVEL OF
INTERFERENCE, WHICH IS WHAT
JUDGE BUNNING WARNED HER
AGAINST, INTERFERING IN SOME
MANNER, AND WE HAVE NOT HEARD A
RESPONSE FROM JUDGE BUNNING YET
ON THAT.
>> I WANT TO MAKE A POINT ON
THIS QUICK, TOO, JUST THE
EARLIER LICENSES THAT WENT OUT
UNDER HER DEPUTIES WERE TAKEN IN
AND PROCESSED BY IRS AND
DIFFERENT TAX HOLDINGS, AND IT
WOULD SEEM LIKE THOSE TAX
AGENCIES REALLY GET THE FINAL
SAY IN THIS.
IF THEY ACCEPT THAT DOCUMENT
THEN WHAT FURTHER PROOF DO YOU
NEED?
>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
IF THEY'RE BEING ACCEPTED BACK
IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND FILED
WITH YOU KNOW YOUR TAXES, THEN
AS THE STATE I THINK HAS SAID,
THE WORDING IS FAIRLY RELEVANT
IF YOU THINK YOU'RE MARRIED AND
YOU HAVE MADE A GOOD FAITH
EFFORT, YOU ARE.
>> WELL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO
FOLLOW THAT CERTAINLY.
BACK ON THE GOVERNOR'S RACE,
MATT BEVIN HAS HIRED A
COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR WHO HAS
SOME EXPERIENCE IN KENTUCKY
POLITICS, JESSICA DITTO.
IS THIS AN EFFORT FOR HIM TO BE
MORE OPEN WITH SOME REPORTERS
WITH WHOM HE HAS SCRAPPED SOME
IN THE RECENT MONTHS?
>> I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY IT
IS.
I THINK THAT JOE GERTH WROTE A
COLUMN BOR THE COURIER-JOURNAL
KIND OF MENTIONING ALL THE
REPORTERS, MYSELF INCLUDED, WHO
WERE NO LONGER ON GOOD TERMS
WITH MR. BEVIN AND WERE NO
LONGER ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS,
AND I THINK THIS WAS A CHANCE
FOR THEM TO RESET THE CAMPAIGN
AHEAD OF THE DEBATE, AND AS THEY
GET INTO THE FINAL STRETCH, AND
REOPEN THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY A LITTLE
PAST DUE.
YOU KNOW, THANK YOU THAT PEOPLE
IN THESE POSITIONS OFTEN STRIKE
RELATIONSHIPS WITH REPORTERS AND
BEND OUR EAR FROM TIME TO TIME
AND TO HIRE ONE WITH I THINK IT
WAS 49 DAYS GO ON IN THE RACE,
IT'S A LITTLE LATE, BUT I THINK
THEY RECOGNIZE THEY'VE GOT A
PROBLEM THERE AND ARE MOVING TO
CORRECT IT.
>> IT'S VERY LATE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
IN THE U.S. SENATE RACE WE NOW
KNOW THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A
REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CAUCUS
IN THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE, A
CAUCUS ON MARCH 5th, AND WE
KNOW THAT BECAUSE LATE THIS
AFTERNOON SENATOR RAND PAUL'S
CAMPAIGN FOR PRESIDENT DEPOSITED
THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THE COSTS.
TODAY WAS THE DEADLINE.
HE MADE THE DEADLINE.
>> HE MADE THE DEADLINE $250,000
NEEDED TO BE PUT INTO THE RPK'S
ACCOUNT FOR THE CAUCUS TO MOVE
FORWARD.
THAT MONEY MADE IT THERE.
THE CAMPAIGN ALWAYS HAD THE
MONEY YOU KNOW ACCORDING TO
PEOPLE INSIDE THE CAMPAIGN, AND
I THINK WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO
DO WAS GO OUT AND RAISE NEW
MONEYS TO BE ABLE TO FUND THIS.
I THINK THEY DID PART OF THAT,
AND WHENWHAT THEY DIDN'T MEET
FOR THE 250 WENT IN AS WELL FROM
THEIR OWN CAMPAIGN ACCOUNT.
SO THIS SETS IT UP.
THE GAME IS ON, IF YOU WILL.
IT'S MARCH 5th.
AND IT WILL BE A CAUCUS.
SO I DO WANT TO POINT OUT
QUICKLY FOR VIEWERS THAT THIS IS
GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT
ANYBODY'S SEEN BEFORE, AND
THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING INTO
THEIR COUNTY CAUCUSES TO FILL
OUT THESE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE
A SECRET PAPER BALLOT.
SO THIS ISN'T KIND OF THE IOWA
STYLE WHERE YOU MOVE AROUND THE
ROOM AND THAT KIND OF A THING.
THIS IS GROWING INTO A COUNTY
CAUCUS.
>> AND DESPITE HIM PAYING FOR
THIS MUCH OF THE EXPENSE OF IT,
IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A GIMME IT
LOOKS LIKE FOR SENATOR PAUL.
>> IF HE'S STILL AROUND BY THE
TIME.
>> AND WE KNOW THAT JEB BUSH IS
COMING TO LOUISVILLE NEXT WEEK.
>> JEB BUSH IS COMING THURSDAY
FOR A FUNDRAISER FOR THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY OF KENTUCKY.
AND IT'S REALLY OUTSIDE OF
CANDIDATES SHOWING UP FOR KIM
DAVIS IN TERMS OF A POLITICAL
EVENT.
IT'S THE FIRST I'M AWARE OF.
ON THE PRESIDENTIAL SIDE.
AND STEVE ROBERTSON, THE STATE
PARTY CHAIRMAN, SAYS THIS IS
GOING TO BE THE FIRST OF MANY,
THIS CAUCUS IDEA IS A GOOD IDEA
BY MOVING FROM THE MAY PRIMARY,
WHEN THE NOMINEE IS OFTEN
ALREADY KNOWN, TO A MARCH 5th,
VERY EARLY IN THE CALENDAR
CAUCUSES.
THERE WILL BE A LOT OF
CANDIDATES COMING INTO KENTUCKY.
>> DOES THAT SIGNAL THAT THE
HEAT THAT JEB BUSH IS GOING TO
COMPETE FOR KENTUCKY?
>> IF HE'S STILL IN IT.
I DO THINK BECAUSE I DON'T THINK
IT'S DEBATE PERFORMANCE WAS TOO
STERLING WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
BUT I THINK HE WILL BE AROUND BY
THEN.
AND, YES, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND
SECOND HANDED, HE'S LIKELY TO
SAY HE'LL BE PARTICIPATING IN
THE CAUCUSES, AND PROBABLY WILL
EVEN BE PAYING TO THE PARTY HIS
$15,000 REGISTRATION FEE.
UNDER THE RULES IT COSTS $15,000
FOR EACH PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN
TO TAKE PART IN THE CAUCUS.
>> IN THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE,
THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL
DEBATE, 11 PEOPLE WERE ON STAGE.
RAND PAUL WAS TRYING TO STAND
OUT AND AFTER DONALD TRUMP EARLY
ON, OF COURSE, TRUMP WENT AFTER
HIM, ONE OF THE VERY FIRST
THINGS SAID IN THE DEBATE.
BUT DID YOU FEEL, TOM, THAT YOU
SAW PAUL RETURN TO SORT OF A
LIBERTARIAN SORT OF STRIPE
THERE?
>> I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY
CONCLUSION YOU CAN DRAW FROM THE
LIMITED TIME HE HAD.
HE HAD VERY LIMITED TIME.
HE HAD ABOUT TEN MINUTES IN THE
THREE-HOUR DEBATE.
TRUMP HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN
18 MINUTES.
PAUL, ACCORDING TO NPR, RANKED
EIGHTH IN AIR TIME ON THE
DEBATE.
BUT -- I MEAN HE OBVIOUSLY WENT
BACK TO EMPHASIZING
NON-INTERVENTION IN FOREIGN
ADVENTURES UNLESS THERE'S A VERY
CLEAR PURPOSE AND AN END GAME
AND A DECLARATION BY CONGRESS.
HE SAID THE OTHER 14 CANDIDATES
WILL GO AHEAD AND DO OTHERWISE
IF YOU WANT TO CHOOSE THEM.
>> IT'S EITHER A CLINTON OR A
BUSH IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.
>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID.
ON MARIJUANA HE SAID -- HE
ACTUALLY GAVE A CLEAR ANSWER ON
THIS.
HE WAS PRESSED, WOULD YOU
ENFORCE TOUGHER FEDERAL LAWS IN
PLACES LIKE COLORADO, WHICH HAVE
MORE LIBERAL POLICIES.
AND HE SAID THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT SHOULD STAY OUT.
HE WOULDN'T DO THAT.
AND HE GOT INTO RAY REAL TANGLE
WITH GOVERNOR CHRISTIE OF NEW
JERSEY AND OTHERS ON THAT ISSUE
FOR A WHILE.
>> BY THE WAY, IT MAY ESCAPE
SOME THAT THERE IS A VOTE IN
OHIO IN NOVEMBER ON THE
LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA, WHICH
WILL BE INTERESTING TO WATCH.
>> BOTH PLACES.
>> RIGHT ACROSS THE RIVER FROM
KENTUCKY.
NICK, ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE
THERE IS A DRAFT BIDEN MOVEMENT
ORIGINATE HERE IN KENTUCKY.
>> IT'S ACTUALLY A FEDERAL
MOVEMENT THAT'S GOING ON.
THERE IS A KENTUCKY LAWMAKER
THAT'S GOING TO BE HEAING UP
KENTUCKY'S PART IN THIS.
IT'S A FEDERAL SUPER PAC, AND
REPRESENTATIVE STEVE RIGGS IS
GOING TO BE LEADING THE EFFORT
HERE IN KENTUCKY, OBVIOUSLY
KENTUCKY ISN'T A PLAYER REALLY
WHEN IT COMES TO PRESIDENTIAL
PRIMARIES.
SO THIS IS MORE OF AN EFFORT TO
GAIN THE DOLLARS AND SUPPORTERS.
OBVIOUSLY COMING IN LATE, JOE
BIDEN WILL NEED ALL THE HELP HE
CAN GET.
SO RIGGS IS HOPING TO SCORE SOME
POINTS HERE IN KENTUCKY AND HELP
OUT THE VICE PRESIDENT.
>> THEY'RE COMMITTED CLINTON
SUPPORTERS IN THE STATE.
SHE CARRIED KENTUCKY EASILY IN
THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY IN 2008.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
AND I THINK AS SOME DEMOCRATS
SEE THAT SHE MIGHT HAVE SOME
PROBLEMS WITH THE MIDDLE EAST
SERVICES, THAT'S FINALLY TRYING
TO COME OUT AND CLEAR THAT UP,
BUT I THINK IT DOES PROVIDE THE
ROOM FOR THOSE SUPPORTERS THAT
ARE LOOKING FOR FOR ANOTHER
ALTERNATIVE PAST MARTIN O'MALLEY
AND SOME OF THE OTHER NAMES ARE
BEING BAND I HAD ABOUT.
>> A STATE POLICE TROOPER WAS
KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY THIS
WEEK, A HORRIBLE THING ON SUNDAY
NIGHT.
TROOPER CAMERON PONDER WAS
BURIED TODAY AFTER BEING SHOT TO
DEATH DURING A TRAFFIC STOP OUT
IN LYON COUNTY IN WESTERN
KENTUCKY.
NICK, YOU HAVE AN INDICATION
THAT PONDER'S DEATH COULD RESULT
IN SOME LEGISLATION, A
CONVERSATION YOU HAVE HAD WITH
HOUSE SPEAKER GREG STUMBO.
>> AID CHANCE TO TALK TO SPEAKER
STUMBO TODAY, AND AFTER SPEAKING
WITH HIM YOU KNOW HE'S BEEN
MOVED BY WHAT HAPPENED AND
RECOGNIZES THAT THERE MIGHT BE A
NEED TO PUT BETTER SAFETY GLASS
IN THE FRONT OF POLICE CRUISERS,
SO HE'S GOING TO SEND A LETTER
EITHER TODAY OR ON MONDAY AND
SEE WHAT ALL IT WOULD COST AND
TALK TO COMMISSIONER BREWER AND
FIND OUT AND GET SOME ESTIMATES
ON EITHER EITHER PUTTING A
LAMINATE TYPE MATERIAL THAT
WOULD HELP IN KIND OF DEFLECT
THE BULLET OR MAYBE EVEN
BULLETPROOF GLASS IN THE FRONT
OF FRONTLINE KSP TROOPER
AUTOMOBILES.
300, 400 FRONTLINE OFFICERS
MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THIS
PROTECTION.
THIS WOULDN'T BE FOR SOMEBODY
WHO IS PUSHING PAPER SO MUCH AS
THE TROOPERS THAT ARE MOST
LIKELY TO SEE DANGER.
>> MAYBE AVOID TRAGEDY LOOK WE
SAW.
JANET, YOU ARE BUSY GETTING
READY FOR THE BREEDERS' CUP AND
SO IS ALL OF THE BLUEGRASS AT
THIS POINT UP.
WROTE ABOUT THE AMERICAN
FAVORITE EFFECT.
AS THE TRIPLE CROWN WINNER, IN
ELECTRICS.
>> FINGERS CROSSED.
>> HIS HOMETOWN.
AND HE MAY RACE.
THAT'S THE PLAN.
>> YES, YES.
THEY SAID THEY ARE TRAINING HIM
TOWARDS COMING TO THE CLASSIC,
WHICH I THINK WE COULD COUNT ON
AN EXTRA 20,000 OR SO PEOPLE IS
WHAT I HAVE HEARD TRYING DO COME
TO KEENELAND OR AT LEAST SEE IT
DOWNTOWN, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO
WATCH IT DOWNTOWN OR AT THE NEW
RED MILE FACILITY, AND I THINK
WHEN HE TRAINED AT THE -- AT
SARATOGA FOR THE TRAVERS, THEY
HAD 15,000 PEOPLE SHOW UP JUST
TO WATCH HIS MORNING WORKOUT.
SO THAT'S THE KIND OF APPEAL
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND HE'S ALSO CREATING ALICIA,
MY COLLEAGUE HAS WRITTEN.
AN AMERICAN PHAROAH AFFECT AT
THE SALES.
>> THOSE ARE GOING WELL?
>> THEY'RE GOING GREAT, AND
THEY'VE DRAWN IN PEOPLE WHO ARE
NEW FACES.
THAT'S WHAT KEENELAND SAID TO
ME, THAT THEY'RE SEEING BUYERS
COMING IN WHO ARE CURIOUS, WHO
ARE SAYING CAN I GET INTO THIS
GAME.
>> FOAL CROP IS STRONG?
>> THIS IS THE BIGGEST INCREASE
IN A LONG TIME.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO SEE
ABOUT A 7% INCREASE IN THE
KENTUCKY THOROUGHBRED FOAL CROP,
AND THIS IS THE BIGGEST FOAL
CROP SINCE 2010.
>> WHEN YOU HAVE A HORSE LIKE
AMERICAN PHAROAH, WHEN YOU HAVE
THE TRIPLE CROWN WINNER, THERE
IS ALL THE TALK THAT HORSE
RACING NEEDS A TRIPLE CROWN
WINNER, IT SEEMS THAT IT IS --
THAT HE IS PAYING DIVIDENDS.
>> I THINK SO.
THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN
PHENOMENAL INTEREST FROM
EVERYWHERE.
I THINK AMERICAN PHAROAH WAS
INVOGUE.
THESE ARE NOT THINGS THAT HAVE
HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
>> YOU MENTIONED THAT THE THE
RED MILE.
AND WE'RE ALL A LITTLE MYSTIFIED
EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON OUT
THERE.
THEY'RE OPENING UP A FACILITY
WITH MACHINES THAT EVERYBODY
SAYS LOOK JUST LIKE SLOT
MACHINES BUT THEY'RE NOT AND
THEN IT'S AT A TIME WHEN THIS
HISTORICAL RACING CONTINUES TO
BE UNDER LEGAL QUESTION.
>> THIS IS TRUE.
THIS IS TRUE.
>> IS THIS A BIG GAMBLE FOR TER
OPERATORS OF RED MILE?
>> IT IS.
THE RED MILE AND KEENELAND
TESTING INVESTED ABOUT
$42 MILLION IN THIS FACELIFT FOR
THE RED MILE.
THEY HAVE INSTALLED MORE THAN
900 MACHINES.
THESE ARE INSTANT RAISE RACING
AND THEY ARE WHAT THEY CALL
HISTORICAL WAGERING WHERE THE
OUTCOME IS ALLEGEDLY DETERMINED
BY A PREVIOUSLY RUN HORSE RACE,
AND IF YOU HAVE SEEN ANY OF THE
PICTURES OR HAVE BEEN TO THE RED
MILE, IT'S JUST A GREAT BIG
SCREEN AND A LITTLE TINY ONE
DOWN AT THE BOTTOM IS WHERE YOU
MIGHT SEE THE FINISH OF THE
HORSE RACE THAT WILL TELL YOU
WHETHER YOU'RE A WINNER LOSER,
ALLEGEDLY.
BUT THERE'S ALSO RIGHT IN FRONT
OF YOU MUCH BIGGER GREAT BIG
THINGS THAT LOOK LIKE SLOT
REELS.
>> SO THESE RACES HAVE HAPPENED
IN THE PAST.
IT'S JUST THAT YOU'RE WATCHING
NOW AND YOU DO NOT KNOW WHO IS
GOING TO WIN.
IS THAT --
>> YOU DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH
INFORMATION AT ALL ABOUT THE
RACE THAT YOU'RE ALLEGEDLY
BETTING ON, AND WHEN IT SHOWS
IT, IT SHOWS LIKE TWO SECONDS,
THREE SECONDS, THE FINISH AND IT
TELLS YOU WHO WON AND THEN IT
WILL TELL YOU WHAT THE RACE IS
SO IT WILL SAY THE TENTH RACE AT
GULFSTREAM ON FEBRUARY 2nd,
2007.
>> HOW WOULD IT BE CLARIFIED
WHETHER THIS IS IN FACT LEGAL
AND IF IT BECOMES AB IMPORTANT
REVENUE STREAM, WOULD THE
LEGISLATURE THEN MOVE TO BE SURE
THAT IT IS LEGAL?
>> THIS CASE IS STILL IN
FRANKLIN CIRCUIT CORE WHERE
THEY'RE STILL TAKING DISCOVERY,
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO
BE REALLY INTERESTING SEEING
WHERE THIS GOES.
THEY'RE DELVING INTO WHETHER OR
NOT THIS IS ACTUALLY PARI-MUTUEL
AND THAT QUESTION WOULD BE
DECIDED NEXT YEAR.
THAT'S WHAT JUDGE WINGATE HAS
SET THE TRIAL DATE.
AND EITHER WAY I ASSUME IT WILL
BE APPEAL AGAIN TO THE STATE
SUPREME COURT.
IF IT LOOKS LIKE THE STATE HAS
STARTED TO SEE SIGNIFICANT
REVENUE, TAX REVENUE FROM THIS,
I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE THE STATE
LEGISLATURE WOULD STEP IN AND
SAY OBJECT WEEK, EITHER WAY
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE
SURE THAT THIS IS LEGAL.
>> TOM, SPEAKER, STUMBO
INDICATES HE MAY WANT TO TAKE A
NEW APPROACH, A FRESH APPROACH
TO EXPANDED GAMING AND COME
FORTH WITH A POTENTIALLY VERY
DETAILED AMENDMENT THAT WOULD
SPELL OUT EXACTLY WHERE CASINOS
COULD BE.
>> HE SAYS HE WILL BE FILING AN
AMENDMENT IN THE NEXT SESSION,
AND HE SAYS IT'S GOING TO BE A
PRIORITY.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE HOUSE BILL
1 BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A TOP
PRIORITY.
AND HE SAYS THAT IT'S GOING TO
BE DETAILED.
HE'S GOING TO SPELL OUT WHERE
THE MONEY GOES, WHICH STATE
PROGRAMS, HOW MANY CASINOS THERE
WILL BE, AND THAT THEY WON'T BE
IN SMALL COUNTIES, COUNTIES
FEWER THAN 55,000 POPULATION.
HE SAID THIS BEFORE.
I THINK AT THE END OF THE 2014
SESSION, HE VOWED IT WOULD BE
HOUSE BILL 1, THE TOP PRIORITY
IN THE 2015 SESSION.
AND GAMBLING WAS NOWHERE OR
CASINO BILL WAS NOWHERE IN THE
2015 SESSION.
SO WE'LL SEE.
>> AND, NUK, AT THE OTHERnd OF
THE CAPITAL WHERE THE
REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE SENATE,
WHAT COULD THEY SAY ABOUT THAT?
>> I'M SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT
HAPPY ABOUT IT.
THERE HAS BEEN A SPLIT BEFORE,
SENATOR DAMON THAYER HAS BEEN IN
FAVOR OF IT SO THERE ARE
POSSIBLY SOME VOTES.
BUT I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT
THIS ISSUE AND WHAT JANET WAS
TALKING ABOUT, TOO, IS THAT THE
STATE IS IN DIRE NEED OF CAPITAL
AND SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME
FRANK CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW
YOU RAISE THAT MONEY.
>> THIS ISSUE IS STALLED
CLEARLY, BUT I THINK NICK IS
EXACTLY RIGHT.
IF THEY GET TO THE POINT WHEN
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO WRITE A
BUDGET FOR 2016-18 WHICH THEY'VE
GOT TO DO BETWEEN JANUARY AND
APRIL 15th, IF THEY'RE GOING
TO SERIOUSLY ADDRESS THE PENSION
ISSUE, SERIOUSLY ADDRESS IT,
WHICH THEY HAVEN'T DONE, THEY'VE
GOT TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
>> AND I'LL SAY THIS.
>> AND CASINOS VERSUS TAXES?
IT THEN BECOMES A LITTLE BIT
MORE -- IF IT GETS THAT POINT.
OF COURSE, THEY COULD PUNT THE
PENSION OFF OFF TO ANOTHER BILL.
>> IN THIS BILL THAT STUMBO IS
PROPOSING THERE IS ONE OF THOSE
AREAS HE WOULD SAY THAT REVENUE
IS GOING TO IS TOWARDS THE
PENSION ELSE? THIS STATE, AND,
YOU KNOW, UNLIKE WHAT A TWO-YEAR
BUDGET SESSION CAN DO OR
BIENNIUM BUDGET CAN DO THIS
WOULD SET IT UP INTO PERP CHUTE.
THIS WOULD SET IT UP FOREVER.
>> 40% FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, 30%
FOR HIGHER ED, 20% FOR PENSIONS.
>> BUT A BIG CHUNK THOSE
PENSIONS.
>> NOT A BIG CHUNK FOR THE
PENSIONS.
IF YOU RECALL WHEN JUDGE WILL
SCOTT RAN FOR THE REPUBLICAN
NOMINATION FOR GOVERNOR, HE SAID
THAT THAT'S WHERE ALL THE MONEY
WOULD GO.
IT NEEDS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN ADDITION PER YEAR,
AND HE'S THE ONLY CANDIDATE FOR
GOVERNOR, GENERAL OR PRIMARY,
WHO HAS IDENTIFIED A SOURCE.
IT MAY NOT BE ENOUGH MONEY FOR
PENSIONS BUT IT'S A COUPLE
HUNDRED MILLAL MILLION MORE THAN
I'VE HEARD IDENTIFIED AT LEAST
BY THE OTHER.
>> ONE OF THE MOST DEBATED
ISSUES OF OUR TIME THE LAST FEW
YEARS HAS BEEN THE AFFORDABLE
CARE ACT, AND WHAT WE DO KNOW
FROM SOME NEW FIGURES RELEASED
THIS WEEK IS THAT KENTUCKY HAS
HAD THE LARGEST DROP IN
UNINSURED PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY,
RIGHT?
>> THAT'S RIGHT, BILL.
THE SUNDAYS BUREAU CAME OUT WITH
A REPORT MARYLAND WEEK SAYING
THAT THE PERCENT OF UNINSURED IN
KENTUCKY FELL FROM 14.3% IN 2013
TO 8.5% LAST YEAR.
THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER REPORTS
THAT HAVE SAID LARGELY THE SAME
THING.
AND IT'S DUE TO THE EXPANSION OF
MEDICAID LARGELY.
AND OBAMACARE.
>> AND THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT
THAT GOING FORWARD IN TERMS OF
THE COSTS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE
BORNE BY THE STATE.
JANET, THIS IS KENTUCKY BOURBON
HERITAGE MONTH.
THE STATE IS CELEBRATING THAT
AND ITS CONTRIBUTION TO THE
ECONOMY OF THE STATE.
THE SALES NUMBERS CONTINUE TO BE
STRONG.
SOME OF THE DISTILL REQUIRES
USING THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
RELEASE SOME NEW PRODUCTS.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
EVERY YEAR THEY LIKE TO COME OUT
WITH SPECIAL RELEASES THAT THE
COLLECTORS LIKE TO TRY TO HUNT
DOWN.
THE KENTUCKY BOURBON FESTIVAL IS
GOING NOT BARDSVILLE.
THERE'S A GALA TONIGHT, I THINK.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SLOWING
DOWN IN SALES, AND THE BIG
DISTILLERIES LIKEMAKERS MARK AND
BROWN-FORMAN ARE BUILDING MORE.
JIM BEAM IS ABOUT TO OPEN A NEW
VISITORS CENTER IN LOUISVILLE.
AND EVEN THE SMALLER
DISTILLERIES, PLACES LIKE OLD
TAYLOR AND WOODFORD WITH THE
FORMER CHARLES MEDFORD FACILITY
THAT HAVE BEEN MOTHBALLED FOR
CENTURIES ARE COMING BACK TO
LIFE AND A NEW FACILITY IS BREAK
GROUND IN PIKEVILLE.
>> THE BOURBON INDUSTRY
CONTINUES TO EMERGE AS A
POWERFUL VOICE IN LEGISLATURE.
>> ABSOLUTELY, WHEN YOU'RE
BRINGING IN THE TYPE OF DOLLARS
THEY ARE THIS IN TUMOR, I THINK
THEY'RE TOSSING THEIR WEIGHT
AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
KNOW THEY WANT TO CHANGE CHANGES
IN THE TO THE LAW AND MAKE
KENTUCKY THE NAPA VALLEY FOR
BOURBON.
>> WE SAW THE TOP SPENDERS.
>> IT WAS THE BEER BILL.
THE FIGHT OVER SO FAR THIS YEAR
ANHEUSER-BUSCH LEADS THE WAY IN
SPENDING ON LOBBYING, ABOUT
$400,000.
BUT THE BEER WHOLESALERS AND
ANOTHER INTEREST GROUP ON THE
OTHER SIDE OF THAT ISSUE WHO WON
ARE GETTING BEER
DISTRIBUTORSHIPS THAT AN HIGHS
ARE HAD BACKED AWAY FROM THEM.
THEY SPENT A HECK OF A LOT OF
MONEY.
THEY WERE IN THE TOP TEN.
>> MONEY DIDN'T SWAY IN THAT
CASE.
TUNE IN MONDAY AT 8/7 CENTRAL
FOR KENTUCKY TONIGHT.
BILL GOODMAN'S SCHEDULEDY GUESTS
WILL BE THE CANDIDATES ARE FOR
SECRETARY OF STATE ALISON
LUNDERGAN GRIMES AND STEPHEN L.