WEBVTT 00:09.100 --> 00:10.560 align:start >> TOUGH NEW ENVIRONMENTAL 00:10.560 --> 00:11.200 align:start STANDARDS LEAD TO UNCERTAINTY 00:11.200 --> 00:11.920 align:start AND CONCERNS IN THE COAL 00:11.920 --> 00:13.760 align:start PRODUCING STATE OF KENTUCKY. 00:13.760 --> 00:15.000 align:start BLUEGRASS STATE DEMOCRATS 00:15.000 --> 00:17.680 align:start DISTANCE THEMSELVES FROM THE 00:17.680 --> 00:19.680 align:start WHITE HOUSE AND KENTUCKY 00:19.680 --> 00:20.600 align:start REPUBLICANS POUNCE ON THE ISSUE 00:20.600 --> 00:23.960 align:start AS THE CAMPAIGN SEASON ROLLS ON 00:23.960 --> 00:24.640 align:start A CITY SUES OVER INVESTMENTS 00:24.640 --> 00:25.240 align:start MADE BY THE STATE RETIREMENT 00:25.240 --> 00:27.080 align:start SYSTEM. 00:27.080 --> 00:28.720 align:start THE NATIONAL V.A. SCANDAL HITS 00:28.720 --> 00:30.200 align:start HOME FOR MANY IN KENTUCKY. 00:30.200 --> 00:32.440 align:start BEFORE WE SEE IF THERE''S A 00:32.440 --> 00:33.160 align:start TRIPLE CROWN WINNER, WE''LL RUN 00:33.160 --> 00:33.920 align:start THROUGH THE ISSUES FACING 00:33.920 --> 00:35.760 align:start KENTUCKY. 00:35.760 --> 00:48.320 align:start "COMMENT" IS NEXT ON KET GOOD 00:48.320 --> 00:49.080 align:start EVENING. 00:49.080 --> 00:51.400 align:start I'M BILL BRIGHTEN ANCHOR AND 00:51.400 --> 00:57.800 align:start MANAGING EDITOR ON THE KWKWT. 00:57.800 --> 00:58.320 align:start OUR GUESTS ON COMMENT ON 00:58.320 --> 00:59.720 align:start KENTUCKY ARE: 00:59.720 --> 01:00.360 align:start JAMES BRUGGERS, ENVIRONMENTAL 01:00.360 --> 01:07.240 align:start JOURNALIST FOR THE 01:07.240 --> 01:07.100 align:start AND RONNIE ELLIS, CNHI NEWS 01:07.100 --> 01:09.200 align:start SERVICE. 01:09.200 --> 01:10.110 align:start IT'S TIMELY TO HAVE THE STATE'S 01:10.110 --> 01:12.320 align:start ONLY FULL-TIME ENVIRONMENTAL A 01:12.320 --> 01:13.680 align:start JOURNALIST WITH US TONIGHT. 01:13.680 --> 01:15.080 align:start JIM, THANKS FOR COMING BACK. 01:15.080 --> 01:16.110 align:start WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. 01:16.110 --> 01:19.640 align:start THESE NEW RULERS DESIGNED TO BE 01:19.640 --> 01:19.100 align:start STRINGENT. 01:19.100 --> 01:21.400 align:start WHAT DOES IT APPEARS TO MEAN IN 01:21.400 --> 01:23.800 align:start THIS COAL-PRODUCING STATE OF 01:23.800 --> 01:24.040 align:start KENTUCKY? 01:24.040 --> 01:25.640 align:start WHAT WILL THE REQUIREMENTS BE 01:25.640 --> 01:28.000 align:start FOR THE BLUEGRASS STATESOME. 01:28.000 --> 01:29.040 align:start >> TECHNICALLY WHAT THE 01:29.040 --> 01:30.360 align:start REQUIREMENTS ARE GOING TO BE IS 01:30.360 --> 01:31.720 align:start WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REDUCE 01:31.720 --> 01:33.400 align:start THE RATE OF EMISSIONS, THE 01:33.400 --> 01:38.040 align:start POUNDS PER KILOWATT HOUR BY 18% 01:38.040 --> 01:39.480 align:start BY 2030 I THINK WE MAY BE 01:39.480 --> 01:40.280 align:start HALFWAY THERE. 01:40.280 --> 01:41.360 align:start I'M NOT SURE. 01:41.360 --> 01:43.400 align:start I THINK RIGHT NOW IN THE STATE 01:43.400 --> 01:44.280 align:start CAPITOL THE ENERGY CABINET IS 01:44.280 --> 01:45.320 align:start GOING OVER THE HUNDREDS AND 01:45.320 --> 01:46.360 align:start HUNDREDS OF PAGES OF 01:46.360 --> 01:46.960 align:start REGULATIONS. 01:46.960 --> 01:47.100 align:start THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE STATE'S 01:47.100 --> 01:49.720 align:start FLEET OF COAL-FIRED POWER 01:49.720 --> 01:50.000 align:start PLANTS. 01:50.000 --> 01:51.480 align:start THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE 01:51.480 --> 01:52.240 align:start DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT THEY 01:52.240 --> 01:52.100 align:start HAVE. 01:52.100 --> 01:55.560 align:start THE RULES ACTUALLY HAVE BUILT I 01:55.560 --> 01:58.480 align:start A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY, IN PART 01:58.480 --> 02:00.100 align:start BECAUSE GOVERN BESHEAR AND 02:00.100 --> 02:02.840 align:start SECRETARY LYNN PETERS ACTUALLY 02:02.840 --> 02:03.760 align:start PRESSED THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATIO 02:03.760 --> 02:05.480 align:start FOR THAT TYPE OF FLEXIBILITY. 02:05.480 --> 02:07.480 align:start SO WE REALLY DON'T KNOW YET 02:07.480 --> 02:08.400 align:start EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS. 02:08.400 --> 02:12.000 align:start BUT WE WILL, THERE'S 120-DAY 02:12.000 --> 02:12.100 align:start COMMENT PERIOD THAT'S GOING ON 02:12.100 --> 02:14.240 align:start RIGHT NOW, AND WE'LL GET A 02:14.240 --> 02:17.200 align:start BETTER IDEA AS THE AGENCIES 02:17.200 --> 02:18.000 align:start START COMMENTING. 02:18.000 --> 02:19.600 align:start >> HOW DOES KENTUCKY RANK IN 02:19.600 --> 02:20.360 align:start TERMS OF EMISSIONS? 02:20.360 --> 02:22.120 align:start >> WELL, IN TERMS OF THE 02:22.120 --> 02:23.160 align:start EMISSION RATE WE'RE ACTUALLY 02:23.160 --> 02:24.110 align:start EITHER FIRST OR SECOND DEPENDIN 02:24.110 --> 02:26.880 align:start ON WHO ACTUALLY DID -- WHICH 02:26.880 --> 02:27.320 align:start YEAR IT IS. 02:27.320 --> 02:29.400 align:start AND SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT 02:29.400 --> 02:32.160 align:start AT STAKE HERE. 02:32.160 --> 02:35.160 align:start WE'RE 90-SOME PERCENT OF OUR 02:35.160 --> 02:36.360 align:start ELECTRICITY GENERATION IS FROM 02:36.360 --> 02:37.280 align:start COAL. 02:37.280 --> 02:38.100 align:start WE'RE THE THIRD LARGEST COAL 02:38.100 --> 02:40.280 align:start MINING STATE IN THE COUNTRY. 02:40.280 --> 02:41.920 align:start SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT AT 02:41.920 --> 02:42.800 align:start STAKE. 02:42.800 --> 02:45.800 align:start AND THIS IS A HISTORIC 02:45.800 --> 02:46.080 align:start REGULATION. 02:46.080 --> 02:49.440 align:start THE GOVERNMENT HAS NOT REGULATE 02:49.440 --> 02:52.080 align:start CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS FROM 02:52.080 --> 02:53.560 align:start COAL FOR COAL FJORD POWER PLANT 02:53.560 --> 02:55.040 align:start BEFORE. 02:55.040 --> 02:56.320 align:start AND SO -- COAL FIRED POWER 02:56.320 --> 02:57.400 align:start PLANTS BEFORE. 02:57.400 --> 02:58.110 align:start AND IT'S JUST DIFFICULT TO SAY, 02:58.110 --> 03:00.200 align:start THOUGH, EXACTLY WHAT IT IS 03:00.200 --> 03:01.760 align:start BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL SO 03:01.760 --> 03:03.520 align:start COMPLICATED, THE RULES ARE 03:03.520 --> 03:04.040 align:start EXTREMELY COMPLICATED. 03:04.040 --> 03:05.640 align:start >> AND THERE ARE LIKELY TO BE A 03:05.640 --> 03:06.110 align:start NUMBER OF LAWSUITS, ARE THERE 03:06.110 --> 03:08.400 align:start NOT, AS WELL, NOT JUST IN 03:08.400 --> 03:09.400 align:start KENTUCKY BUT NATIONALLY. 03:09.400 --> 03:11.280 align:start THIS IS A LONG WAY FROM 03:11.280 --> 03:11.840 align:start IMPLEMENTATION. 03:11.840 --> 03:15.520 align:start >> EVERY E.P.A. -- BIG E.P.A. 03:15.520 --> 03:17.280 align:start RULE THAT GETS INTRODUCED, 03:17.280 --> 03:18.160 align:start THERE'S LAWSUITS INVOLVED. 03:18.160 --> 03:19.100 align:start THE ONING THAT THAT'S PRETTY 03:19.100 --> 03:21.040 align:start INTERESTING, THOUGH, IS THAT 03:21.040 --> 03:22.680 align:start UNLIKE THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION 03:22.680 --> 03:24.110 align:start THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION WHICH 03:24.110 --> 03:26.040 align:start PROMULGATED A NUMBER OF RULES 03:26.040 --> 03:27.600 align:start UNDER THE CLEAR AIR ACT AND 03:27.600 --> 03:28.960 align:start ACTUALLY HAD SOME OF THEM 03:28.960 --> 03:31.120 align:start OVERTURNED, SO FAR THE OBAMA 03:31.120 --> 03:32.240 align:start ADMINISTRATION HAS ACTUALLY A 03:32.240 --> 03:34.120 align:start LITTLE BIT BETTER TRACK RECORD 03:34.120 --> 03:37.000 align:start OF HOW IT'S BEEN ENACTING 03:37.000 --> 03:38.640 align:start DIFFERENT OR PROMULGATING 03:38.640 --> 03:39.000 align:start DIFFERENT RULES. 03:39.000 --> 03:41.600 align:start THIS IS A COMPLETELY NEW KIND 03:41.600 --> 03:43.600 align:start OF -- A NEW POLLUTANT THAT WE'R 03:43.600 --> 03:45.280 align:start REGULATING AND SO WHO KNOWS. 03:45.280 --> 03:47.680 align:start BUT THE ONE THANK THAT IS CLEAR 03:47.680 --> 03:49.960 align:start IS THAT THE SUPREME COURT HAS 03:49.960 --> 03:51.100 align:start RULED THAT THE E.P.A. ACTUALLY 03:51.100 --> 03:56.240 align:start HAS AN OBLIGATION TO REGULATE 03:56.240 --> 03:56.100 align:start CO2 EMISSIONS. 03:56.100 --> 03:59.840 align:start >> RONNIE, AS WE MENTIONED, THE 03:59.840 --> 04:00.880 align:start BESHEAR ADMINISTRATION PUSHED 04:00.880 --> 04:02.100 align:start FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY AND PUSHED 04:02.100 --> 04:04.000 align:start AGAINST SOME OF THE MOST 04:04.000 --> 04:05.600 align:start STRINGENT ELEMENTS OF THIS. 04:05.600 --> 04:06.100 align:start DID THEY WIN SOME OF THOSE 04:06.100 --> 04:07.280 align:start BATTLES? 04:07.280 --> 04:09.600 align:start >> WELL, IT APPEARS, LOOKING AT 04:09.600 --> 04:11.360 align:start IT AT FIRST GLANCE, THAT THEY 04:11.360 --> 04:11.100 align:start DID. 04:11.100 --> 04:13.720 align:start LAST YEAR WE HEARD SECRETARY 04:13.720 --> 04:16.840 align:start PETERS ON A NUMBER OVERCROWDING 04:16.840 --> 04:17.880 align:start CASES TESTIFYING BEFORE 04:17.880 --> 04:18.840 align:start LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEES THAT HE 04:18.840 --> 04:19.100 align:start WAS LOOKING FOR I GUESS WHAT 04:19.100 --> 04:22.600 align:start THEY CALL IT IN THE BUSINESS AS 04:22.600 --> 04:24.960 align:start OUTSIDE THE FENCE TYPE, MEANING 04:24.960 --> 04:27.800 align:start NOT JUST THE POWER PLANT BUT 04:27.800 --> 04:30.320 align:start WHEREVER YOU CAN FIND REDUCTION 04:30.320 --> 04:32.800 align:start MEETING AN OVERALL STATEWIDE NE 04:32.800 --> 04:33.440 align:start REDUCTION TARGET. 04:33.440 --> 04:36.800 align:start AND THIS ALLOWS THEM TO DO THAT 04:36.800 --> 04:38.080 align:start BUT WHEN THE RULE -- WHEN THE 04:38.080 --> 04:41.600 align:start RULE CAME OUT MONDAY, I SAW 04:41.600 --> 04:43.320 align:start COMMENT BOTH FROM HIM AND THE 04:43.320 --> 04:44.760 align:start CABINET AND FROM THE GOVERNOR, 04:44.760 --> 04:46.680 align:start AND I ONLY GOT IT FROM THE 04:46.680 --> 04:48.320 align:start GOVERNOR, THE CABINET SAID THAT 04:48.320 --> 04:49.080 align:start WOULD BE THEIR STATEMENT THAT 04:49.080 --> 04:51.640 align:start DAY, AND HE WAS, GOVERNOR 04:51.640 --> 04:54.040 align:start BESHEAR SEEMED LESS THAN HAPPY. 04:54.040 --> 04:57.720 align:start >> IS THE COAL INDUSTRY RIGHT T 04:57.720 --> 05:00.280 align:start BE HORRIFIED BY THIS? 05:00.280 --> 05:02.400 align:start VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS? 05:02.400 --> 05:03.100 align:start IN TERMS OF THE LOSS OF THE COA 05:03.100 --> 05:04.100 align:start JOBS IN KENTUCKY. 05:04.100 --> 05:07.920 align:start >> THE COAL INDUSTRY HAS HAD A 05:07.920 --> 05:09.560 align:start LOT OF, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF 05:09.560 --> 05:12.280 align:start JOB LOSS AND THEY'RE SEEING 05:12.280 --> 05:14.400 align:start POWER PLANTS MOVE FROM COAL TO 05:14.400 --> 05:15.100 align:start NATURAL GAS FOR A VARIETY OF 05:15.100 --> 05:17.520 align:start REASONS, BUT ONE OF THE BIG ONE 05:17.520 --> 05:20.280 align:start IS THAT NATURAL GAS IS REALLY 05:20.280 --> 05:21.520 align:start PRETTY CHEAP RIGHT NOW, AND SO, 05:21.520 --> 05:23.160 align:start YEAH, I GETS GUESS, I THINK THA 05:23.160 --> 05:25.200 align:start THEY PROBABLY HAVE A RIGHT TO B 05:25.200 --> 05:27.720 align:start OR REASON TO BE CONCERNED, BUT 05:27.720 --> 05:28.840 align:start AT THE SAME TIME, FROM WHAT I 05:28.840 --> 05:31.160 align:start CAN TELL, I DON'T THINK THAT -- 05:31.160 --> 05:33.000 align:start I MEAN THEY'RE STILL 05:33.000 --> 05:34.240 align:start ANTICIPATING THAT WE'RE GOING T 05:34.240 --> 05:38.400 align:start HAVE SOME 30% OF OUR ELECTRICIT 05:38.400 --> 05:39.040 align:start IN THIS COUNTRY GENERATED BY 05:39.040 --> 05:39.680 align:start COAL IN THE FUTURE. 05:39.680 --> 05:41.840 align:start >> EVEN BEYOND 2030? 05:41.840 --> 05:44.000 align:start >> BY 2030 I THINK IS WHAT WE'R 05:44.000 --> 05:44.400 align:start TALKING. 05:44.400 --> 05:47.760 align:start >> I HEARD JOHN PODESTA AN 05:47.760 --> 05:50.600 align:start ADVISER TO OBAMA WHO IS INVOLVE 05:50.600 --> 05:51.440 align:start IN THERE THE HACKERS SAYING BY 05:51.440 --> 05:53.440 align:start 2030 THEY THOUGHT WE WOULD STIL 05:53.440 --> 05:55.480 align:start BE GENERATING 30% OF OUR 05:55.480 --> 05:56.560 align:start ELECTRICITY NATIONALLY THROUGH 05:56.560 --> 05:58.600 align:start COAL, AND IT'S GOWN DOWN TO 38 05:58.600 --> 06:00.100 align:start NOW AND THAT INCLUDES SEDATES 06:00.100 --> 06:03.080 align:start LIKE KENTUCKY THAT ARE 92 AND 06:03.080 --> 06:04.720 align:start WEST VIRGINIA I THINK IS 96. 06:04.720 --> 06:06.110 align:start SO THESE ARE NOT -- THEY BASE - 06:06.110 --> 06:10.110 align:start THEY'RE SO-CALLED BASELINE ON 06:10.110 --> 06:13.720 align:start 2005 RATHER THAN 2008, WHICH 06:13.720 --> 06:15.360 align:start MEANS NEARLY ALL OF THESE WE'VE 06:15.360 --> 06:17.360 align:start ALREADY HAD 10% REDUCTIONS IN A 06:17.360 --> 06:18.840 align:start LOT OF THESE THINGS SIMPLY 06:18.840 --> 06:21.600 align:start THROUGH THE USE OF NATURAL GAS. 06:21.600 --> 06:22.680 align:start SO WE'RE PART OF THE WAY THERE 06:22.680 --> 06:22.100 align:start ALREADY. 06:22.100 --> 06:24.240 align:start >> FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS A VER 06:24.240 --> 06:25.720 align:start LARGE POWER PLANT IN LOUISVILLE 06:25.720 --> 06:29.080 align:start CALLED DID K1 POWER PLANT. 06:29.080 --> 06:30.110 align:start LG&E PLANS TO CONVERT THAT TO 06:30.110 --> 06:31.920 align:start NATURAL GAS, AND AS A MATTER OF 06:31.920 --> 06:33.080 align:start FACT THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS. 06:33.080 --> 06:34.560 align:start I WAS TOLDED TO THAT THE STATE 06:34.560 --> 06:38.400 align:start WILL GET CREDIT FOR THE 06:38.400 --> 06:38.880 align:start CONVERSION. 06:38.880 --> 06:40.280 align:start THAT PLANT WILL PROBABLY PRODUC 06:40.280 --> 06:42.200 align:start ABOUT HALF THE GREENHOUSE GASSE 06:42.200 --> 06:44.760 align:start THAT A COAL PLANT WOULD AND SKO 06:44.760 --> 06:48.640 align:start WE'LL GET CREDIT FOR THAT. 06:48.640 --> 06:52.200 align:start LG&E AND K.U. AND GOING FROM 90 06:52.200 --> 06:54.520 align:start DEPENDENT ON COAL TO 80% IN TWO 06:54.520 --> 06:54.880 align:start YEARS. 06:54.880 --> 06:56.640 align:start >> SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT 06:56.640 --> 06:57.520 align:start OPTIONS FOR STATE. 06:57.520 --> 06:58.560 align:start >> THERE ARE. 06:58.560 --> 06:59.720 align:start AND ONE OF THE THINGS PEOPLE 06:59.720 --> 07:02.040 align:start MIGHT BE SEEING IS SEE MORE 07:02.040 --> 07:02.100 align:start PROGRAMS, AND, OF COURSE, THE 07:02.100 --> 07:03.100 align:start STATE IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME 07:03.100 --> 07:05.520 align:start UP WITH A PLAN, AND HOW THAT 07:05.520 --> 07:07.840 align:start PLAN IS SHAPED WILL BE IMPORTAN 07:07.840 --> 07:09.040 align:start IN DETERMINING EXACTLY WHAT 07:09.040 --> 07:09.520 align:start HAPPENS. 07:09.520 --> 07:10.110 align:start BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST BOUGHT A 07:10.110 --> 07:13.040 align:start NEW REFRIGERATOR, AND WE'RE 07:13.040 --> 07:15.100 align:start GOING TO GET A $100 DEBATE FROM 07:15.100 --> 07:17.280 align:start LG&E THROUGH SOMETHING CALLED 07:17.280 --> 07:19.160 align:start DEMAND SIDE CONSERVATION, AND S 07:19.160 --> 07:21.720 align:start WREAK SEE MERE OF THAT KIND OF 07:21.720 --> 07:23.280 align:start PROGRAM WHERE OUR -- WHERE 07:23.280 --> 07:25.960 align:start YOU'RE ABLE TO GET IF SAVINGS, 07:25.960 --> 07:29.240 align:start THE CO TWO SAVINGS BY GETTING 07:29.240 --> 07:30.600 align:start EFFICIENCY IN PEOPLE'S HOMES AN 07:30.600 --> 07:30.100 align:start BUSINESSES. 07:30.100 --> 07:32.480 align:start >> SAM, THE POLITICAL FALLOUT 07:32.480 --> 07:34.520 align:start FROM THIS WAS INSTANT. 07:34.520 --> 07:36.280 align:start DEMOCRATIC HOUSE SPEAKER GREG 07:36.280 --> 07:37.760 align:start STUMBO USED COLORFUL LANGUAGE T 07:37.760 --> 07:39.480 align:start TRY TO PUT DISTANCE BETWEEN 07:39.480 --> 07:42.160 align:start KENTUCKY DEMOCRATS AND THE OBAM 07:42.160 --> 07:42.920 align:start ADMINISTRATION. 07:42.920 --> 07:44.520 align:start ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE SENATOR 07:44.520 --> 07:45.100 align:start MITCH McCONNELL CAME FORTH 07:45.100 --> 07:47.040 align:start WITH A PROPOSED COAL COUNTRY 07:47.040 --> 07:49.360 align:start PROTECTION ACT THAT WOULD FORCE 07:49.360 --> 07:50.360 align:start THE GOVERNMENT TO CERTIFICATE 07:50.360 --> 07:51.720 align:start FOY THAT THERE WOULD BE NO 07:51.720 --> 07:54.520 align:start DAMAGE DONE TO JOBS AND THAT NO 07:54.520 --> 07:55.520 align:start UTILITIES RATES WOULD BE HIGHER 07:55.520 --> 07:57.100 align:start THAT WAS DEFEATED. 07:57.100 --> 07:59.100 align:start THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY 07:59.100 --> 08:00.100 align:start ACTIVITY POLITICAL ISSUE, ISN'T 08:00.100 --> 08:01.120 align:start IT? 08:01.120 --> 08:01.100 align:start >> IT ABSOLUTELY IS. 08:01.100 --> 08:03.000 align:start I WAS ACTUALLY JUST THINKING 08:03.000 --> 08:06.560 align:start THAT THIS IS THE MOST THOUGHTFU 08:06.560 --> 08:07.480 align:start NUANCED DISCUSSION OF COAL 08:07.480 --> 08:09.720 align:start REGULARS I'VE HEARD ALL WITH -- 08:09.720 --> 08:10.720 align:start REG GOES ALL WEEK. 08:10.720 --> 08:12.480 align:start YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT FROM 08:12.480 --> 08:13.040 align:start THE SENATE CANDIDATES. 08:13.040 --> 08:16.000 align:start THIS IS THE FIRST BIG SKIRMISH 08:16.000 --> 08:18.080 align:start CONFIDENT ELECTION. 08:18.080 --> 08:18.680 align:start KNIGHT WAS COMING. 08:18.680 --> 08:20.360 align:start BOATS CAMPAIGNS PREPARED 08:20.360 --> 08:20.840 align:start ACCORDINGLY. 08:20.840 --> 08:21.560 align:start McCONNELL DID WHAT WE EXPECTED 08:21.560 --> 08:22.100 align:start HIM TO DO, HE HAMMERED GRIMES O 08:22.100 --> 08:24.120 align:start THIS EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK. 08:24.120 --> 08:25.100 align:start NOW, I LOOK AT THE GRIMES 08:25.100 --> 08:26.680 align:start CAMPAIGN. 08:26.680 --> 08:28.000 align:start I THINK THEIR INSTINCT WERE 08:28.000 --> 08:28.560 align:start RIGHT ON. 08:28.560 --> 08:30.080 align:start THEIR EXECUTION WAS A BIT OF A 08:30.080 --> 08:31.100 align:start STRUGGLE THIS WEEK. 08:31.100 --> 08:33.800 align:start I THINK IT WAS THE DEPARTMENT O 08:33.800 --> 08:34.110 align:start BAD TIMING THAT SHE WOULD BE 08:34.110 --> 08:39.320 align:start DOING A FUNDRAISER WITH SENATE 08:39.320 --> 08:40.000 align:start MAJORITY LEADER HARRY REID THIS 08:40.000 --> 08:40.100 align:start WEEK. 08:40.100 --> 08:41.100 align:start THE GRIMES CAMPAIGN IS RIGHT TO 08:41.100 --> 08:42.800 align:start BE CONCERNED. 08:42.800 --> 08:43.880 align:start THEY'RE RIGHT TO BE PUSHING BAC 08:43.880 --> 08:44.440 align:start AS HARD AS THEY ARE. 08:44.440 --> 08:46.440 align:start IF WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS FROM 08:46.440 --> 08:47.880 align:start PRIMARY NIGHT, AND WE HAVE ALL 08:47.880 --> 08:48.110 align:start TALKED ABOUT ABOUT THIS BEFORE 08:48.110 --> 08:50.720 align:start WHERE DID SHE UNDERPERFORM? 08:50.720 --> 08:51.800 align:start COAL COUNTRY EAST AND WEST. 08:51.800 --> 08:53.960 align:start SOME OF THOSE COUNTIES WHERE SH 08:53.960 --> 08:55.110 align:start DID RUN 65%, THESE ARE PLACES 08:55.110 --> 08:58.040 align:start WHERE THE BIG PROTEST VOTE 08:58.040 --> 08:59.440 align:start AGAINST BARACK OBAMA IN 2012, 08:59.440 --> 09:00.640 align:start THAT'S WHERE THAT ORIGINAL NATE 09:00.640 --> 09:02.100 align:start AND IT'S HURTING HER, TOO. 09:02.100 --> 09:04.040 align:start THEY'RE RIGHT TO SORT TRIAGE 09:04.040 --> 09:04.480 align:start THAT AREA. 09:04.480 --> 09:07.360 align:start >> MITT ROMNEY WON ALL BUT ONE 09:07.360 --> 09:08.520 align:start OF THE 30 COUNTIES THAT PRODUCE 09:08.520 --> 09:08.880 align:start COAL. 09:08.880 --> 09:10.640 align:start SHE HAS TO IMPROVE THERE. 09:10.640 --> 09:10.100 align:start RIGHT? 09:10.100 --> 09:11.640 align:start >> ABSOLUTELY. 09:11.640 --> 09:13.100 align:start I THINK SHE'S GOING TO DO -- I 09:13.100 --> 09:15.520 align:start DON'T THINK SHE'S GOING TO WIN 09:15.520 --> 09:17.760 align:start COAL COUNTRY, BUT SHE CAN 09:17.760 --> 09:19.880 align:start MITIGATE LOSSES AND STILL TRY T 09:19.880 --> 09:22.160 align:start OVERPERFORM IN OTHER STARTS 09:22.160 --> 09:23.040 align:start PARTS OF THE STATE BUT RIGHT NO 09:23.040 --> 09:24.100 align:start WHAT WE'RE SEEING FROM THEM IS 09:24.100 --> 09:26.760 align:start IS IT COAL OR IS OBAMA THE 09:26.760 --> 09:26.110 align:start ISSUE? 09:26.110 --> 09:28.160 align:start AND I THINK THE PRESIDENT IS 09:28.160 --> 09:30.040 align:start AGAIN TISSUE JUST LIKE WITH 09:30.040 --> 09:31.640 align:start HEALTHCARE, IT'S ALL SORT OF 09:31.640 --> 09:33.480 align:start PART AND PARCEL OF THE SAME 09:33.480 --> 09:34.880 align:start DISCUSSION. 09:34.880 --> 09:36.760 align:start IT'S NOT ARE YOU FOR COAL. 09:36.760 --> 09:37.110 align:start IT'S ARE YOU FOR HARRY REID AS 09:37.110 --> 09:39.080 align:start MAJORITY LEADER. 09:39.080 --> 09:40.100 align:start >> WHEN McCONNELL INTRODUCED 09:40.100 --> 09:42.680 align:start THE BILL AND MADE A SPEECH ON 09:42.680 --> 09:46.800 align:start THE SENATE FLOOR, HE CALLED IT 09:46.800 --> 09:49.080 align:start OBAMACARE 2.0, SO OBVIOUSLY THE 09:49.080 --> 09:50.800 align:start OBAMA FACTOR IS STILL HUGE AS 09:50.800 --> 09:51.100 align:start WELL AS COAL. 09:51.100 --> 09:55.080 align:start >> DID GRIMES EFFECTIVELY PLACE 09:55.080 --> 09:57.800 align:start DISTANCE BETWEEN HERSELF AND TH 09:57.800 --> 09:59.100 align:start OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AND, IN 09:59.100 --> 10:01.800 align:start PARTICULAR, THIS SET OF 10:01.800 --> 10:02.080 align:start REGULATIONS? 10:02.080 --> 10:03.200 align:start >> IT'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING 10:03.200 --> 10:04.440 align:start BATTLE FOR HER, AND WHEN IT 10:04.440 --> 10:05.920 align:start COMES TO COAL, I THINK IT'S 10:05.920 --> 10:07.240 align:start GOING TO BE AN UPHILL BATTLE FO 10:07.240 --> 10:09.200 align:start HER JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT THE 10:09.200 --> 10:10.080 align:start NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS 10:10.080 --> 10:12.000 align:start PERCEIVED AS DOING, THIS WAR ON 10:12.000 --> 10:12.100 align:start COAL THAT SENATOR McCONNELL 10:12.100 --> 10:13.100 align:start HAS CONTINUED TO PUSH. 10:13.100 --> 10:15.440 align:start I THINK THERE WAS AN INCIDENT 10:15.440 --> 10:17.080 align:start TOWARDS THE END OF THE WEEK 10:17.080 --> 10:17.110 align:start YESTERDAY WHERE IT WAS REVEALED 10:17.110 --> 10:19.680 align:start THAT AS PART OF THEY ARE 10:19.680 --> 10:21.800 align:start PUSHBACK ON COAL, THEY HAD USED 10:21.800 --> 10:24.160 align:start A OR ALMOST USED A UKRAINIAN 10:24.160 --> 10:25.110 align:start MODEL AS A COAL MINOR. 10:25.110 --> 10:27.100 align:start A COAL MINOR, THIS MODEL WAS 10:27.100 --> 10:30.400 align:start DRESSED UP AS A COAL MINOR, TAG 10:30.400 --> 10:30.100 align:start WAS AVERTED THIS. 10:30.100 --> 10:33.440 align:start THEY USED AN AMERICAN MODEL TO 10:33.440 --> 10:34.120 align:start DO IT INSTEPPED AND AGAIN I GO 10:34.120 --> 10:36.160 align:start BACK TO THEIR INSTINCTS ON THE 10:36.160 --> 10:37.520 align:start PUSHBACK AGAINST THIS. 10:37.520 --> 10:38.320 align:start THE EXECUTION IS NOT GREAT. 10:38.320 --> 10:40.100 align:start >> I WONDER WHETHER GRIMES 10:40.100 --> 10:42.400 align:start RISKED LOSING ANY OF THEY ARE 10:42.400 --> 10:44.760 align:start BASE IN MAYBE LEXINGTON OR 10:44.760 --> 10:45.280 align:start LOUISVILLE, SOME OF THE 10:45.280 --> 10:47.160 align:start DEMOCRATIC BASE THAT MIGHT 10:47.160 --> 10:49.040 align:start ACTUALLY WELCOME THE REGULATION 10:49.040 --> 10:49.840 align:start THAT THEY PASSED. 10:49.840 --> 10:52.400 align:start >> IF SHE PIVOTS TO THE RIGHT 10:52.400 --> 10:53.520 align:start ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES YOU'RE 10:53.520 --> 10:54.320 align:start SAYING DOES SHE RISK -- 10:54.320 --> 10:55.440 align:start >> I THINK THAT'S HEY PROBLEM 10:55.440 --> 10:56.110 align:start FOR HER IF IT'S A PROBLEM AT AL 10:56.110 --> 10:58.400 align:start ONLY ON THE FUNDRAISING SIDE 10:58.400 --> 11:00.880 align:start BECAUSE AT LEAST AMONG THE 11:00.880 --> 11:02.100 align:start ELECTORATE IN KENTUCKY, THOSE 11:02.100 --> 11:06.200 align:start FOLKS ARE GOING TO VIEW HER AS 11:06.200 --> 11:08.040 align:start PERFECTLY TO McCONNELL, AND 11:08.040 --> 11:09.160 align:start THEY PROBABLY -- PREFERABLE TO 11:09.160 --> 11:09.110 align:start McCONNELL, AND THEY PROBABLY 11:09.110 --> 11:11.600 align:start ARE DOING THE REVERSE OF WHAT 11:11.600 --> 11:13.320 align:start McCONNELL IS TRYING TO CON 11:13.320 --> 11:14.880 align:start SINCE CONSERVATIVE VOTERS TO 11:14.880 --> 11:16.880 align:start THINK ABOUT. 11:16.880 --> 11:18.320 align:start SHE WILL HELP TOW MAINTAIN THE 11:18.320 --> 11:19.400 align:start DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY IN THE 11:19.400 --> 11:20.560 align:start SENATE. 11:20.560 --> 11:24.040 align:start SO, YOU KNOW, LESS ENTHUSIASM, 11:24.040 --> 11:25.120 align:start YES, BUT I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF 11:25.120 --> 11:26.120 align:start THOSE PEOPLE AND THEY'RE GOING 11:26.120 --> 11:28.360 align:start TO RELUCTANTLY IN SOME CASES, 11:28.360 --> 11:29.600 align:start BUT I THINK THEY'LL STILL VOTE 11:29.600 --> 11:29.100 align:start FOR HER. 11:29.100 --> 11:31.800 align:start >> I'VE WONDERED ABOUT THIS, 11:31.800 --> 11:32.110 align:start TOO, ON ISSUES LIKE GUNS, FOR 11:32.110 --> 11:34.440 align:start EXAMPLE. 11:34.440 --> 11:35.920 align:start COAL, ON HEALTHCARE YOU'VE GOT 11:35.920 --> 11:37.320 align:start OTHER DEMOCRATS REAL BEING VOCA 11:37.320 --> 11:39.200 align:start ON HOW THEY EMBRACE THE MEASURE 11:39.200 --> 11:40.920 align:start BUT HERE'S THE THING. 11:40.920 --> 11:41.840 align:start THERE'S ALMOST NOTHING SHE CAN 11:41.840 --> 11:43.320 align:start DO OR SAY THAT'S GOING TO MAKE 11:43.320 --> 11:44.100 align:start HER BASE THINK THAT SHE'S LESS 11:44.100 --> 11:45.560 align:start APPEALING THAN MITCH 11:45.560 --> 11:45.100 align:start McCONNELL. 11:45.100 --> 11:48.320 align:start HE IS A BOOGEYMAN NOT JUST TO 11:48.320 --> 11:49.800 align:start KENTUCKY DEMOCRATS OR LIBERAL 11:49.800 --> 11:50.440 align:start DEMOCRATS BUT ALL OVER THE 11:50.440 --> 11:50.100 align:start COUNTRY. 11:50.100 --> 11:52.320 align:start SO I MEAN SHE'S GOT A WHOLE LOT 11:52.320 --> 11:53.560 align:start OF ROOM HERE TO WORK. 11:53.560 --> 11:55.320 align:start >> I THINK PART OF HER PROBLEM 11:55.320 --> 11:57.320 align:start THE ON COAL THING IS SHE MAY BE 11:57.320 --> 12:00.160 align:start ABLE DO CONVINCE SOME VOTERS WH 12:00.160 --> 12:01.440 align:start IN THE PAST VOTED AGAINST 12:01.440 --> 12:04.080 align:start DEMOCRATS THAT SHE GENUINELY IS 12:04.080 --> 12:06.800 align:start AN ALLY OF COAL, BUT THEY'RE 12:06.800 --> 12:10.320 align:start GOING TO FACE THAT REVERSE LOGI 12:10.320 --> 12:11.920 align:start THAT HER ENVIRONMENT FRIENDS AR 12:11.920 --> 12:12.100 align:start THINKING, THEY MIGHT THINK, 12:12.100 --> 12:14.800 align:start OKAY, SHE IS AN ALLY BUT I'M 12:14.800 --> 12:16.080 align:start VOTING TO KEEP THE DEMOCRATIC 12:16.080 --> 12:16.110 align:start MAJORITY IN THE SENATE AND THEY 12:16.110 --> 12:18.520 align:start ARE NOT AN ALLY. 12:18.520 --> 12:19.360 align:start SO IT'S A TOUGH BATTLE FOR THEM 12:19.360 --> 12:21.400 align:start >> THE OTHER THING I'D SAY ABOU 12:21.400 --> 12:23.920 align:start THIS IS WEAR NOW THEE WEEKS FRO 12:23.920 --> 12:25.520 align:start THE PRIMARY, AND FOR THE WHOLE 12:25.520 --> 12:26.100 align:start THREE WEEKS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT 12:26.100 --> 12:28.280 align:start THE ISSUES THAT MITCH 12:28.280 --> 12:29.160 align:start McCONNELL EITHER BY DESIGN, 12:29.160 --> 12:30.760 align:start COINCIDENCE OR ACCIDENT, WE'RE 12:30.760 --> 12:31.100 align:start TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES EACH O 12:31.100 --> 12:33.280 align:start THESE THREE WEEKS THAT HE WANTS 12:33.280 --> 12:33.110 align:start TO BE TALKING ABOUT. 12:33.110 --> 12:35.160 align:start FIRST IT WAS DEBATES AND 12:35.160 --> 12:35.100 align:start HEALTHCARE AND NOW GOAL. 12:35.100 --> 12:37.100 align:start I THINK SHE'S GOT TO FIND A WAY 12:37.100 --> 12:40.360 align:start TO SET THE TEMPO WHERE SHE'S NO 12:40.360 --> 12:41.880 align:start ALWAYS ON DEFENSE, AND UNLESS 12:41.880 --> 12:43.000 align:start THEY CAN FIND WAY TO DO THAT. 12:43.000 --> 12:44.360 align:start MINIMUM WAGE IS A GOOD ISSUE FO 12:44.360 --> 12:44.880 align:start THEY ARE. 12:44.880 --> 12:45.960 align:start I THINK THEY'VE GOT TO FIND MOR 12:45.960 --> 12:46.360 align:start ISSUES LIKE THAT. 12:46.360 --> 12:48.120 align:start >> AS YOU MENTIONED WITH ISSUE 12:48.120 --> 12:50.520 align:start IS UKRAINIAN COAL MINOR BALM A 12:50.520 --> 12:52.880 align:start 24-HOUR ISSUE TO THAT WAS IN TH 12:52.880 --> 12:54.480 align:start NEWS CYCLE FOR THAT PERIOD OF 12:54.480 --> 12:56.600 align:start TIME. 12:56.600 --> 12:58.040 align:start WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT HOW 12:58.040 --> 12:59.720 align:start COMMERCIALS ARE MADE AND DONE 12:59.720 --> 13:02.000 align:start AND, RONNIE, ARE WE PAST THE 13:02.000 --> 13:03.720 align:start TIME WHEN YOU CAN GO INTO A TV 13:03.720 --> 13:04.100 align:start STUDIO AND LOOK INTO A CAMERA 13:04.100 --> 13:06.680 align:start AND TELL PEOPLE WHAT BUREAU 13:06.680 --> 13:07.920 align:start GOING TO DO IF YOU'RE ELECTED? 13:07.920 --> 13:08.960 align:start >> WE ARE. 13:08.960 --> 13:10.360 align:start WHEN THIS THING CAME OUT 13:10.360 --> 13:12.000 align:start YESTERDAY, THE GRIMES CAMPAIGN 13:12.000 --> 13:13.110 align:start WAS ALL OF 30 MINUTES IN COMING 13:13.110 --> 13:16.100 align:start BACK WITH EXAMPLES THAT 13:16.100 --> 13:18.240 align:start McCONNELL CAMPAIGN HAD DONE A 13:18.240 --> 13:19.960 align:start SIMILAR THING WITH SPOTS UP ON 13:19.960 --> 13:21.720 align:start FACEBOOK AND SO FORTH. 13:21.720 --> 13:23.600 align:start I ACTUALLY WROTE IN MY COLUMN 13:23.600 --> 13:29.000 align:start THIS WEEK, WEEKEND I EXCERPTED 13:29.000 --> 13:30.440 align:start VERY DIRECT EXPLANATION OF HIS 13:30.440 --> 13:32.080 align:start POSITION ON SLAVERY THAT LINCOL 13:32.080 --> 13:35.840 align:start USED IN 1858 IN ONE OF THE 13:35.840 --> 13:36.560 align:start LINCOLN-DO YOU GO DEBATES AND 13:36.560 --> 13:38.120 align:start ASKED MY READERS CAN YOU IMAGIN 13:38.120 --> 13:40.800 align:start EITHER McCONNELL OR GRIMES 13:40.800 --> 13:42.200 align:start TALKING LIKE THAT TO VOTERS? 13:42.200 --> 13:44.080 align:start NO, WE'RE LONG PAST THOSE DAYS. 13:44.080 --> 13:44.840 align:start UNFORTUNATELY AND SADLY. 13:44.840 --> 13:47.920 align:start >> THERE'S A STATEWIDE 13:47.920 --> 13:49.800 align:start LINCOLN-REAGAN DINNER THAT WILL 13:49.800 --> 13:50.110 align:start BE TOMORROW FIGHT. 13:50.110 --> 13:52.080 align:start THE REPUBLICANS WILL GATHER IN 13:52.080 --> 13:52.800 align:start LOUISVILLE. 13:52.800 --> 13:54.680 align:start AND WHAT DO WE EXPECT TO BE 13:54.680 --> 13:55.360 align:start DISCUSSED THERE? 13:55.360 --> 13:57.080 align:start IS THAT THE CLOSEST THING TO A 13:57.080 --> 13:58.440 align:start UNITY DINNER THAT REPUBLICANS 13:58.440 --> 13:59.080 align:start WILL BE HOLDING THIS SUMMER? 13:59.080 --> 14:00.100 align:start >> IT IS. 14:00.100 --> 14:02.200 align:start IT CERTAINLY SEEMS TO BE AT THI 14:02.200 --> 14:03.040 align:start POINT. 14:03.040 --> 14:05.320 align:start LOOK, THIS IS THEIR QUICK-OFF 14:05.320 --> 14:06.560 align:start RALLY, THE PEP RALLY TO GET 14:06.560 --> 14:07.720 align:start THINGS GOING. 14:07.720 --> 14:09.640 align:start THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE EVERYBODY 14:09.640 --> 14:10.760 align:start UNDER ONE ROOF. 14:10.760 --> 14:14.000 align:start IT'S NOS. AS MESSY AS A UNITY 14:14.000 --> 14:15.720 align:start EVENT BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW IF 14:15.720 --> 14:17.680 align:start THE GUY WHO BEAT YOU IS GOING 14:17.680 --> 14:19.000 align:start TONE DOORS YOU OR NOT. 14:19.000 --> 14:19.100 align:start TOMORROW IS GOING TO BE A BIG 14:19.100 --> 14:21.920 align:start DAY FOR REPUBLICANS JUST AS THE 14:21.920 --> 14:22.880 align:start WINDOW 4 DINNER WILL BE FOR 14:22.880 --> 14:24.400 align:start DEMOCRATS IF THAT THEY NEED TO 14:24.400 --> 14:26.280 align:start AT LEAST PRESENT A UNIFIED 14:26.280 --> 14:28.120 align:start FRONT, THEY NEED TO MAKE OTHER 14:28.120 --> 14:29.960 align:start REPUBLICANS AROUND THE STATE 14:29.960 --> 14:31.440 align:start BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE ALL ON THE 14:31.440 --> 14:32.960 align:start SAME PAGE, THE SAME WAY 14:32.960 --> 14:34.000 align:start DEMOCRATS HAVE REALLY BEEN 14:34.000 --> 14:35.720 align:start EFFECTIVE IN PUSHING THE IDEA 14:35.720 --> 14:37.840 align:start THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS 14:37.840 --> 14:39.360 align:start MORE UNIFIED THAN IT HAS BEEN 14:39.360 --> 14:41.280 align:start SINCE JOEY CARROLL AS SPEAKER 14:41.280 --> 14:41.880 align:start STUMBO WOULD SAY. 14:41.880 --> 14:44.120 align:start >> AND SOME GUBERNATORIAL 14:44.120 --> 14:45.240 align:start CANDIDATES OR LIKELY CANDIDATES 14:45.240 --> 14:46.100 align:start ARE LIKELY TO BE IN THE ROOM AS 14:46.100 --> 14:48.880 align:start WELL, HAL HIGHER THAN AND JAMES 14:48.880 --> 14:49.240 align:start COMER FOR TWO. 14:49.240 --> 14:50.560 align:start >> I DON'T THINK THEY'RE SEATED 14:50.560 --> 14:52.480 align:start TOGETHER BUT THAT WOULD BE FUN. 14:52.480 --> 14:54.120 align:start YEAH,, YOU KNOW, LOOK THAT'S TH 14:54.120 --> 14:55.680 align:start THING. 14:55.680 --> 14:56.680 align:start WE GET POCKED COMMUNITY SENATE 14:56.680 --> 14:57.360 align:start RACE AND WE FORGET FOR AT LEAST 14:57.360 --> 14:58.720 align:start A COUPLE OF CANDIDATES THE 14:58.720 --> 14:59.100 align:start GOVERNOR'S RACE IS WELL 14:59.100 --> 15:00.600 align:start UNDERWAY. 15:00.600 --> 15:01.560 align:start HAL HIGHER THAN HAS BEEN THE IN 15:01.560 --> 15:02.100 align:start RIS FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. 15:02.100 --> 15:04.100 align:start HE CAME OUT WITH HIS FIRST 15:04.100 --> 15:07.800 align:start TELEVISION AD GOING TO WIN 15:07.800 --> 15:10.440 align:start TOMORROW WHEN RIDE ON CURLIN IS 15:10.440 --> 15:13.000 align:start BEATING CALIFORNIA CHROME. 15:13.000 --> 15:14.110 align:start BUT YEAH, HIS FIRST SPOT IS OUT 15:14.110 --> 15:17.200 align:start >> WHAT HAD THAT TELL YOU IF 15:17.200 --> 15:18.600 align:start HE'S RUNNING SOME ADDS TOMORROW 15:18.600 --> 15:19.110 align:start IN JUNE BEFORE THE PRIMARY OF 15:19.110 --> 15:20.360 align:start NEXT YEAR. 15:20.360 --> 15:20.760 align:start >> 15:20.760 --> 15:23.280 align:start >> IT TELLS ME WHAT WE ALREADY 15:23.280 --> 15:23.640 align:start KNEW. 15:23.640 --> 15:25.120 align:start HE GOT IN THIS RACE VERY EARLY 15:25.120 --> 15:26.760 align:start FOR A VERY SPECIFIC REASON. 15:26.760 --> 15:28.040 align:start Y NOBODY KNOWS WHO HE IS AND 15:28.040 --> 15:29.400 align:start HE'S GOT TO CORRECT THAT. 15:29.400 --> 15:31.100 align:start THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO GET ON 15:31.100 --> 15:35.080 align:start TV ON AND GOT IT BEFORE ANYBODY 15:35.080 --> 15:36.440 align:start ELSE IS. 15:36.440 --> 15:39.280 align:start RIGHT NOW HE IS SETTING TOW TON 15:39.280 --> 15:41.320 align:start FOR THE MESSAGE HE WANTS TO 15:41.320 --> 15:41.800 align:start SEND. 15:41.800 --> 15:43.100 align:start ALL ABOUT NO MORE FRANKFORT 15:43.100 --> 15:44.110 align:start POLITICIANS. 15:44.110 --> 15:47.240 align:start HE WANTS TO POSITION HIMSELF 15:47.240 --> 15:47.100 align:start ANSWER OUTSTANDING OUTSIDER 15:47.100 --> 15:49.440 align:start AGAINST PRESUMABLY JAMES COMB 15:49.440 --> 15:51.200 align:start PER I THINK THAT THIS FIRST AD, 15:51.200 --> 15:52.680 align:start IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT MORE 15:52.680 --> 15:53.100 align:start FOR HIM TO CATCH UP TO WHERE 15:53.100 --> 15:55.640 align:start COMER IS IN TERMS OF NAME I.D. 15:55.640 --> 15:56.200 align:start >> GO AHEAD. 15:56.200 --> 15:58.520 align:start >> I THINK THERE'S ONE QUICK 15:58.520 --> 16:00.520 align:start IMPORTANT POINT TO MAKE GOT 16:00.520 --> 16:01.680 align:start ABOUT THE GOVERNOR'S RACE 16:01.680 --> 16:02.600 align:start CIRCLING BACK TO THE E.P.A. 16:02.600 --> 16:03.080 align:start RULE. 16:03.080 --> 16:04.560 align:start IT'S THE NEXT GOVERNOR THAT IS 16:04.560 --> 16:05.520 align:start ACTUALLY GOING TO BE PREPARING 16:05.520 --> 16:06.440 align:start THE PLAN WITH SENDING THE PLAN 16:06.440 --> 16:09.200 align:start TO E.P.A. ON HOW KENTUCKY PLANS 16:09.200 --> 16:10.680 align:start TO COMPLY WITH THIS RULE. 16:10.680 --> 16:13.080 align:start SO THERE WILL BE A LOT AT TALK. 16:13.080 --> 16:14.110 align:start THAT ACTUALLY WILL BE A BIG 16:14.110 --> 16:15.320 align:start ISSUE. 16:15.320 --> 16:16.110 align:start >> AND IT MAYBE THE GOVERNOR 16:16.110 --> 16:18.440 align:start AFTER NEXT THAT HAS TO IMPLEMEN 16:18.440 --> 16:18.760 align:start IT. 16:18.760 --> 16:19.520 align:start >> THAT COULD BE. 16:19.520 --> 16:21.560 align:start >> WHAT ARE WE HEARING QUICKLY 16:21.560 --> 16:24.560 align:start ABOUT ADAM EDELEN'S TIME FRAME 16:24.560 --> 16:25.100 align:start FOR SOME KIND OF DECISION? 16:25.100 --> 16:27.600 align:start HE IS ELIGIBLE FOR RE-ELECTION 16:27.600 --> 16:28.880 align:start TO STATE AUDITOR BUT HE'S MADE 16:28.880 --> 16:30.110 align:start IT VERY CLEAR THAT HE'S 16:30.110 --> 16:32.360 align:start EXPLORING THE GOVERNOR'S RACE 16:32.360 --> 16:32.920 align:start VERY CAREFULLY. 16:32.920 --> 16:35.000 align:start >> I'M MORE UNSURE NOW WHAT ADA 16:35.000 --> 16:36.480 align:start IS THINKING THAN I HAVE BEEN AT 16:36.480 --> 16:36.100 align:start ANY POINT. 16:36.100 --> 16:38.960 align:start I THINK THAT THERE'S SORT OF A 16:38.960 --> 16:40.880 align:start CAN BE HE WANTS TO GET IN, NOT 16:40.880 --> 16:42.360 align:start SURE IF HE SHOULD GET IN, AND 16:42.360 --> 16:43.100 align:start IT'S REACHING A BOILING POINT 16:43.100 --> 16:45.100 align:start WHERE HE KNOWS A DECISION NEED 16:45.100 --> 16:47.360 align:start TO BE MADE AND HE'S NOT SURE 16:47.360 --> 16:48.320 align:start WHAT THE DECISION IS. 16:48.320 --> 16:50.110 align:start >> NOTHING CONCRETE BUT WE WE 16:50.110 --> 16:53.560 align:start TALKED WITH THIS WHEN SAM AND I 16:53.560 --> 16:55.120 align:start ROW A PANEL, IT JUST GOT THE 16:55.120 --> 16:57.360 align:start FEEL THAT HE'S PERHAPS 16:57.360 --> 16:57.880 align:start REEVALUATING. 16:57.880 --> 16:59.840 align:start >> IS JACK CONWAY OFF TO ANY 16:59.840 --> 17:01.000 align:start FAST START IN HIS RACE? 17:01.000 --> 17:01.880 align:start >> HE IS OUT THERE. 17:01.880 --> 17:03.240 align:start HE'S GOT A TICKET PUT TOGETHER. 17:03.240 --> 17:05.120 align:start HE CAN START RAISING MONEY, 17:05.120 --> 17:07.720 align:start WHICH HE HAS SOME PREVIOUS 17:07.720 --> 17:09.100 align:start SUCCESS AT, AND ALL THE POLLS 17:09.100 --> 17:12.000 align:start THAT WE'VE SEEN OR BEEN TOLD 17:12.000 --> 17:14.960 align:start ABOUT, HE'S ALREADY GOT THE NAM 17:14.960 --> 17:15.240 align:start RECOGNITION. 17:15.240 --> 17:17.120 align:start >> HE'S BEEN PRETTY QUIET AND H 17:17.120 --> 17:17.960 align:start SAID HE WOULD BE. 17:17.960 --> 17:20.840 align:start HE SAID HE DIDN'T WANT TO 17:20.840 --> 17:22.840 align:start DISTRACT FROM HOUSE DEMOCRATIC 17:22.840 --> 17:24.600 align:start EFFORTS AND DIDN'T WANT TO 17:24.600 --> 17:25.120 align:start DISTRACT FROM THE GRIMES 17:25.120 --> 17:25.560 align:start CAMPAIGN. 17:25.560 --> 17:27.560 align:start HE SAID AT THE OUTSET IT WOULD 17:27.560 --> 17:28.680 align:start BE A QUIET BEGINNING. 17:28.680 --> 17:30.680 align:start HE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT A LOT OF 17:30.680 --> 17:31.110 align:start ON JUNE FUNDRAISING NUMBERS. 17:31.110 --> 17:35.480 align:start IT'S THAT ABSENCE OF A MECHANIS 17:35.480 --> 17:36.160 align:start FOR ANY KIND OF EXPLORE TORRIE 17:36.160 --> 17:36.920 align:start COMMITTEE THAT IF YOU'RE 17:36.920 --> 17:37.600 align:start THINKING ABOUT IT YOU MIGHT AS 17:37.600 --> 17:37.100 align:start WELL GET IN. 17:37.100 --> 17:41.110 align:start >> RONNIE, A NORTHERN CITY, 17:41.110 --> 17:43.100 align:start INDEPENDENCE IS SUING THE STATE 17:43.100 --> 17:46.920 align:start RETIREMENT SYSTEM ALLEGING 17:46.920 --> 17:48.560 align:start IMPRUDENT CAN INVESTING OF 17:48.560 --> 17:50.560 align:start HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLAR 17:50.560 --> 17:51.760 align:start MEANT FOR PENSIONS AND THAT 17:51.760 --> 17:53.880 align:start COMES AS TALK OF SEVEN COUNTIES 17:53.880 --> 17:55.280 align:start MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE OVER IN 17:55.280 --> 17:56.760 align:start JEFFERSON COUNTY IN THAT AREA 17:56.760 --> 17:58.640 align:start MAY BE PULLING OUT OF OF THE 17:58.640 --> 18:00.160 align:start RETIREMENT SYSTEM OR HAS THE 18:00.160 --> 18:00.110 align:start OPTION TO DO THAT NOW. 18:00.110 --> 18:02.760 align:start >> YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN I 18:02.760 --> 18:04.760 align:start THIS BUSINESS AS LONG AS I HAVE 18:04.760 --> 18:06.600 align:start I THINK SOMETIMES THAT THERE AR 18:06.600 --> 18:07.100 align:start GOING TO BE PEOPLE IN 40 YEARS 18:07.100 --> 18:09.760 align:start AS OLD AS I AM WHO HAVE WRITTEN 18:09.760 --> 18:11.160 align:start ABOUT THIS SAME STORY OVER AND 18:11.160 --> 18:12.640 align:start OVER. 18:12.640 --> 18:15.200 align:start WE SUPPOSEDLY HAD WORKED ON THE 18:15.200 --> 18:16.040 align:start PENSION SYSTEM. 18:16.040 --> 18:18.040 align:start YEAH, THE NORTHERN KENTUCKY CIT 18:18.040 --> 18:21.100 align:start IS ASKING FOR A COURT ORDER SO 18:21.100 --> 18:24.160 align:start THAT IT'S CONTRIBUTIONS INTO TH 18:24.160 --> 18:25.880 align:start K.R.S. SYSTEM WILL NOT BE PLACE 18:25.880 --> 18:28.360 align:start IN HEDGE FUNDS AND SOME OF THES 18:28.360 --> 18:29.440 align:start OTHER SITUATIONS. 18:29.440 --> 18:31.960 align:start THEY ARE ALSO ASKING FOR CLASS 18:31.960 --> 18:33.960 align:start STATUS, CLASS ACTION STATUS, CH 18:33.960 --> 18:35.080 align:start MEANS OTHER CITIES MIGHT JOIN 18:35.080 --> 18:36.560 align:start THEM AND PROBABLY ARE THINKING 18:36.560 --> 18:38.760 align:start ABOUT IT. 18:38.760 --> 18:40.600 align:start MEANWHILE, LAST FRIDAY WHAT IS 18:40.600 --> 18:43.720 align:start POTENTIALLY A BIGGER MEDIA BLOW 18:43.720 --> 18:45.100 align:start TO THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM, SEVEN 18:45.100 --> 18:47.840 align:start COUNTIES, WHICH IS A MENTAL 18:47.840 --> 18:49.100 align:start HEALTH CENTER SERVING THE REGIO 18:49.100 --> 18:51.800 align:start INCLUDING LOUISVILLE AND AROUND 18:51.800 --> 18:55.240 align:start LOUISVILLE, HAS FILED FOR 18:55.240 --> 18:56.160 align:start BANKRUPTCY AND HAS SOUGHT THE 18:56.160 --> 18:58.280 align:start ABILITY TO LEAVE THE SYSTEM. 18:58.280 --> 19:00.960 align:start THEY'RE FACING I THINK THEY SAY 19:00.960 --> 19:03.100 align:start A $2 MILLION OPERATING LOSS. 19:03.100 --> 19:04.100 align:start AND THE CONTRIBUTION IS GOING T 19:04.100 --> 19:06.840 align:start GO WAY UP UNDER THE REFORM 19:06.840 --> 19:08.040 align:start PACKAGE IN THE LEGISLATURE. 19:08.040 --> 19:12.240 align:start AND A JUDGE GRANTED THEM THAT. 19:12.240 --> 19:13.160 align:start THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM CITIES 19:13.160 --> 19:15.000 align:start ZEST THAT THIS COULD RESULT IF 19:15.000 --> 19:17.240 align:start THE OTHER MENTAL HEALTH CENTERS 19:17.240 --> 19:20.100 align:start JOIN IN, WITH AS MUCH AS 19:20.100 --> 19:22.840 align:start $12.4 BILLION OVER THE NEXT 20 19:22.840 --> 19:23.100 align:start YEARS, AND THEY'RE ALREADY 19:23.100 --> 19:27.000 align:start FACING AN $18 BILLION UNFUNDED 19:27.000 --> 19:27.100 align:start LIABILITY. 19:27.100 --> 19:29.360 align:start SO THIS IS GOING TO BE BIG. 19:29.360 --> 19:30.840 align:start I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE STATE I 19:30.840 --> 19:32.480 align:start GOING TO APPEAL. 19:32.480 --> 19:35.280 align:start >> WELL, THESE CITIES, I KNOW 19:35.280 --> 19:36.400 align:start THAT WHEN I WAS SUNS THIS A 19:36.400 --> 19:37.960 align:start LITTLE BIT THIS WEEK SOME PEOPL 19:37.960 --> 19:39.280 align:start WERE SURPRISED TO FIND THAT A 19:39.280 --> 19:40.600 align:start LOT OF CITY EMPLOYEES ARE 19:40.600 --> 19:41.100 align:start COVERED UNDER THE STATE 19:41.100 --> 19:42.520 align:start RETIREMENT SYSTEM. 19:42.520 --> 19:44.120 align:start >> AND THAT'S A SORE POINT 19:44.120 --> 19:46.960 align:start BECAUSE IT'S CALLED THE COUNTY 19:46.960 --> 19:48.920 align:start EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT SYSTEM. 19:48.920 --> 19:53.120 align:start EVERYBODY CALLS IT S HAVE CERS. 19:53.120 --> 19:55.360 align:start THE COASTLINE COUNTY, CITIES, 19:55.360 --> 19:58.600 align:start MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS AND SOME 19:58.600 --> 19:59.100 align:start PERSONNEL, NON-TEACHING SCHOOL 19:59.100 --> 20:00.320 align:start PERSONNEL. 20:00.320 --> 20:02.080 align:start THEY ARE IN BETTER SHAPE FOR 20:02.080 --> 20:03.200 align:start THEIR SIDE OF IT BECAUSE THEY 20:03.200 --> 20:05.800 align:start HAVE CONTINUED TO MAKE THE FULL 20:05.800 --> 20:07.840 align:start CONTRIBUTIONS EACH YEAR, AND SO 20:07.840 --> 20:09.320 align:start THEY CHASTE HAVING TO BE BOGGED 20:09.320 --> 20:14.720 align:start DOWN BY THE LIABILITIES OF THE 20:14.720 --> 20:15.320 align:start WHOLE SYSTEM. 20:15.320 --> 20:17.400 align:start SO THE COUNTIES HAVE BEEN ASKIN 20:17.400 --> 20:19.040 align:start TO BE ALLOWED TO COME OUT OF IT 20:19.040 --> 20:19.110 align:start FOR YEARS. 20:19.110 --> 20:20.110 align:start THEY HAVEN'T SUED. 20:20.110 --> 20:22.680 align:start THEY JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT. 20:22.680 --> 20:24.440 align:start AND, OF COURSE, PART OF THE 20:24.440 --> 20:25.760 align:start PROBLEM IS IF YOU LEAVE, DO YOU 20:25.760 --> 20:28.120 align:start TAKE YOUR LIABILITY WITH YOU? 20:28.120 --> 20:30.480 align:start AND THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE, 20:30.480 --> 20:31.560 align:start INCLUDING SPEAKER STUMBO, WHO 20:31.560 --> 20:33.000 align:start TALKED ABOUT IT THIS WEEK THAT 20:33.000 --> 20:34.960 align:start IF THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE THEI 20:34.960 --> 20:37.720 align:start LIABILITIES WITH THEM, THEN HE' 20:37.720 --> 20:38.760 align:start BE FINE WITH THEIR LEAVING. 20:38.760 --> 20:41.240 align:start >> IT'S NOT AS DESTABILIZING TO 20:41.240 --> 20:41.100 align:start THE OVERALL SYSTEM. 20:41.100 --> 20:42.240 align:start >> RIGHT. 20:42.240 --> 20:44.600 align:start >> JIM, ON THE WEND OF 20:44.600 --> 20:46.720 align:start LOUISVILLE THERE IS THIS LEE'S 20:46.720 --> 20:48.480 align:start LANDFILL, THE E.P.A. DID SOMMY 20:48.480 --> 20:49.100 align:start CLEANUP BUT NOT A COMPLETE 20:49.100 --> 20:51.480 align:start CLEANUP SOME YEARS AGO. 20:51.480 --> 20:52.240 align:start WHERE IS IT? 20:52.240 --> 20:53.760 align:start WHAT IS IT? 20:53.760 --> 20:54.110 align:start WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE NOW? 20:54.110 --> 20:57.640 align:start >> FOR DECADE STARTING IN THE 20:57.640 --> 21:00.120 align:start MID-40s AND ENDING IN 1975 ALL 21:00.120 --> 21:01.110 align:start KINDS OF INDUSTRIAL WASTE, 21:01.110 --> 21:03.760 align:start MUNICIPAL WASTE WAS DUMPED IN 21:03.760 --> 21:04.110 align:start THIS LANDFILL RIGHT NEAR THE 21:04.110 --> 21:06.000 align:start NEIGHBORHOOD OF RIVERSIDE 21:06.000 --> 21:08.000 align:start GARDENS, AND RIVERSIDE GARDENS, 21:08.000 --> 21:09.760 align:start THERE'S A CHEMICAL PLANT NEXT 21:09.760 --> 21:11.480 align:start DOOR, THERE'S THE SUPER FUND 21:11.480 --> 21:12.100 align:start SITE, THERE'S A COAL FIRED POWE 21:12.100 --> 21:14.240 align:start PLANT RIGHT NEARBY. 21:14.240 --> 21:16.160 align:start I'VE SAID I COULD HAVE AN ENTIR 21:16.160 --> 21:17.840 align:start BUREAU SET UP THERE. 21:17.840 --> 21:19.640 align:start THERE ARE STORIES I COULD COVER 21:19.640 --> 21:23.720 align:start ANYWAY IN 1975 THERE WERE THESE 21:23.720 --> 21:25.880 align:start METHANE GAS LEAKED THROUGH THE 21:25.880 --> 21:27.080 align:start SOIL AND STARTED COMING UP IN 21:27.080 --> 21:28.440 align:start PEOPLE'S HOMES AND THERE WERE 21:28.440 --> 21:28.920 align:start FLASH FIRES. 21:28.920 --> 21:30.480 align:start THEY HAD TO MOVE PEOPLE OUT. 21:30.480 --> 21:31.110 align:start TO FAST FORWARD TO WHERE WE ARE 21:31.110 --> 21:34.440 align:start TODAY, IT HAS BEEN 15 YEARS OF 21:34.440 --> 21:35.800 align:start METHANE GAS COLLECTION SYSTEM 21:35.800 --> 21:37.320 align:start THAT HASN'T WORKED WELL, IT'S 21:37.320 --> 21:39.110 align:start SUPPOSED TO COLLECT A BUNCH OF 21:39.110 --> 21:41.680 align:start CHEMICALS AS WELL BUT NOW THEY 21:41.680 --> 21:43.440 align:start FOUND ELEVATED LEVELS 21:43.440 --> 21:44.320 align:start CARCINOGENIC CONNECTION, AND NO 21:44.320 --> 21:46.800 align:start THE E.P.A. IS GOING TO BE 21:46.800 --> 21:48.400 align:start TESTING 50 HOMES, SO THERE ARE 21:48.400 --> 21:49.200 align:start 50 FAMILIES THAT HAVE THE 21:49.200 --> 21:50.100 align:start SPECTER OF THE E.P.A. COMING IN 21:50.100 --> 21:52.100 align:start AND TRYING TO SEE WHETHER OR NO 21:52.100 --> 21:53.110 align:start WOULD YOU HAVE BEEN BREATHING 21:53.110 --> 21:55.920 align:start CARBON TETRA CHLORIDE AND OTHER 21:55.920 --> 21:56.800 align:start KINDS OF CHEMICALS. 21:56.800 --> 21:58.400 align:start >> HOW INVASIVE IS THAT TESTING 21:58.400 --> 21:59.080 align:start DO YOU KNOW? 21:59.080 --> 22:00.800 align:start >> THEY PUT A CANISTER IN THE 22:00.800 --> 22:02.040 align:start BASEMENT OR IN THE CRAWL SPACE. 22:02.040 --> 22:03.800 align:start IT'S NOT VERY INVASIVE. 22:03.800 --> 22:05.200 align:start >> SO THAT'S TO BE DONE SOON? 22:05.200 --> 22:06.360 align:start >> THIS MONTH. 22:06.360 --> 22:08.800 align:start >> SAM, CONGRESSMAN ANDY BARR 22:08.800 --> 22:10.960 align:start SAYS HE'S GETTING A LOT OF CALL 22:10.960 --> 22:12.110 align:start NOW FROM VETERANS IN THIS 22:12.110 --> 22:14.360 align:start NATIONAL SCANDAL THAT WE HAVE 22:14.360 --> 22:17.200 align:start GOING ON WHO SAY THEY ARE NOT 22:17.200 --> 22:18.080 align:start GETTING APPROPRIATE MEDICAL 22:18.080 --> 22:19.800 align:start CARE, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GET 22:19.800 --> 22:20.110 align:start APPOINTMENTS WITH SPECIALISTS 22:20.110 --> 22:22.680 align:start AND THIS SORT OF THING. 22:22.680 --> 22:24.560 align:start HE'S EVEN OPENED SEVERAL CASES 22:24.560 --> 22:26.160 align:start AND SAYS THAT SHE WANTS TO HAVE 22:26.160 --> 22:28.160 align:start REPORTS BACK ON HOW THOSE ARE 22:28.160 --> 22:30.040 align:start HANDLED BY THE V.A. 22:30.040 --> 22:31.720 align:start HE ALSO GOES ON TO SAY THERE AR 22:31.720 --> 22:33.100 align:start A LOT OF HARD-WORKING V.A. 22:33.100 --> 22:34.560 align:start EMPLOYEES IN THE STATE OF 22:34.560 --> 22:35.040 align:start KENTUCKY. 22:35.040 --> 22:37.760 align:start BUT THIS BUREAUCRAT MESS IS 22:37.760 --> 22:39.760 align:start OBVIOUSLY HITTING EVERYWHERE, 22:39.760 --> 22:40.880 align:start INCLUDING HERE. 22:40.880 --> 22:42.160 align:start >> THAT'S SORT OF ROUTINE. 22:42.160 --> 22:46.160 align:start THIS IS THE TRAGIC OTHER SHOE 22:46.160 --> 22:49.160 align:start THAT INVARIABLY PRO-DROPS AFTER 22:49.160 --> 22:50.640 align:start A NATIONAL STORY BECAUSE WHAT 22:50.640 --> 22:51.100 align:start STARTS IN ARIZONA START TAKING 22:51.100 --> 22:53.560 align:start ON IMPORTANCE, SOMEBODY STARTS 22:53.560 --> 22:55.400 align:start WORRYING ABOUT A PARENT OR 22:55.400 --> 22:56.120 align:start GRANDPARENT THAT'S BEING TAKEN 22:56.120 --> 22:57.110 align:start CARE OF BY THE V.A., THEY START 22:57.110 --> 22:58.920 align:start MAKING CALLS AND LOOKING A 22:58.920 --> 22:59.280 align:start LITTLE CLOSER. 22:59.280 --> 23:02.760 align:start I GUESS IT'S MY HOPE THAT THE 23:02.760 --> 23:04.520 align:start GOOD EMPLOYEES AT V.A. THAT 23:04.520 --> 23:05.760 align:start CONGRESSMAN BARR SPOKE ABOUT 23:05.760 --> 23:07.160 align:start OUTNUMBER THE BAD ONES HERE IN 23:07.160 --> 23:08.120 align:start KENTUCKY AND THAT THEY'VE BEEN 23:08.120 --> 23:11.080 align:start ABLE TO MANAGE ENOUGH CASES THA 23:11.080 --> 23:14.040 align:start WE'RE NOT LOSING TO NEGLECT THE 23:14.040 --> 23:15.840 align:start GREATEST GENERATION AND THOSE 23:15.840 --> 23:16.680 align:start THAT FOLLOWED. 23:16.680 --> 23:18.110 align:start >> THERE'S AN OVERWHELMING 23:18.110 --> 23:20.440 align:start ASPECT OF THIS. 23:20.440 --> 23:23.040 align:start I HAVE ON BOTH SIDES OF MY 23:23.040 --> 23:24.880 align:start FAMILY, SALAD MANY OF THEM ARE 23:24.880 --> 23:27.120 align:start GONE, BUT I HAD A BUNCH OF 23:27.120 --> 23:29.960 align:start UNCLES WHO WERE KOREAN AND WORL 23:29.960 --> 23:31.720 align:start WAR II VETERANS AND I GREW UP 23:31.720 --> 23:32.100 align:start LISTENING TO THEM TALKING ABOUT 23:32.100 --> 23:34.200 align:start GOING TO THE V.A. HOSPITALS. 23:34.200 --> 23:36.360 align:start THEY ALWAYS LIKED THEIR CARE. 23:36.360 --> 23:37.840 align:start THEY NEVER WERE HAPPY ABOUT THE 23:37.840 --> 23:38.600 align:start WAIT TIMES. 23:38.600 --> 23:41.960 align:start BUT THOSE HAVE GOTTEN 23:41.960 --> 23:42.720 align:start EXPONENTIALLY WORSE, AND PART O 23:42.720 --> 23:44.440 align:start THE PROBLEM IS WE'VE COME OUT O 23:44.440 --> 23:46.960 align:start TWO WARS AND THE MEDICAL 23:46.960 --> 23:48.840 align:start TECHNOLOGY, PEOPLE THAT USED TO 23:48.840 --> 23:50.600 align:start NOT COME BACK NEEDING MEDICAL 23:50.600 --> 23:53.360 align:start CARE NOW ARE COMING HOME NEEDIN 23:53.360 --> 23:55.240 align:start LOTS AND LOTS OF MEDICAL CARE 23:55.240 --> 23:57.960 align:start FOR A LONG, LONG TIME, AND THE 23:57.960 --> 23:59.100 align:start SYSTEM WAS INADEQUATE TO BEGIN 23:59.100 --> 24:01.520 align:start WITH AND NOW IT'S JUST 24:01.520 --> 24:02.040 align:start ABSOLUTELY OVERWHELMED. 24:02.040 --> 24:03.960 align:start >> AND ON THIS 70th 24:03.960 --> 24:05.360 align:start ANNIVERSARY OF D-DAY WE'RE 24:05.360 --> 24:07.120 align:start MINDFUL OF THAT. 24:07.120 --> 24:08.840 align:start RETIRED CLARK COUNTY PRINCIPAL, 24:08.840 --> 24:10.600 align:start CHARLIE WILSON WAS BACK IN 24:10.600 --> 24:12.840 align:start NORMANDY OVER THERE AND VISITIN 24:12.840 --> 24:14.000 align:start AND THERE WERE SEVERAL STORIES 24:14.000 --> 24:15.100 align:start THAT HE WAS ON THE NETWORK AND 24:15.100 --> 24:16.960 align:start SO FORTH. 24:16.960 --> 24:19.120 align:start 18 YEARS OLD WHEN HE STORMED TH 24:19.120 --> 24:19.100 align:start BEACH THERE. 24:19.100 --> 24:22.360 align:start AND HIS TRIP WAS PAID FOR BY TH 24:22.360 --> 24:24.120 align:start FRENCH GOVERNMENT, BY THE WAY 24:24.120 --> 24:25.480 align:start BECAUSE HE WAS BROUGHT OVER 24:25.480 --> 24:27.800 align:start THERE TO TELL HIS STORY ABOUT 24:27.800 --> 24:29.200 align:start LIBERATING THAT NATION. 24:29.200 --> 24:31.240 align:start AND HE SAID, HIS QUOTE THAT WAS 24:31.240 --> 24:33.440 align:start ON TELEVISION HOE COULD STILL 24:33.440 --> 24:34.440 align:start KICK BUTT. 24:34.440 --> 24:36.400 align:start I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING. 24:36.400 --> 24:38.100 align:start RONNIE, A PATCHWORK OF PAY FOR 24:38.100 --> 24:40.800 align:start KENTUCKY LAWMAKERS WAS ADDRESSE 24:40.800 --> 24:42.280 align:start SOMEWHAT IN THIS L.R.C. MEETING 24:42.280 --> 24:44.120 align:start THAT WENT THE AT MID-WEEK. 24:44.120 --> 24:46.560 align:start >> WELL, IF YOU WILL REMEMBER 24:46.560 --> 24:48.520 align:start AFTER THE SEXUAL HARASSMENT 24:48.520 --> 24:50.400 align:start ALLEGATIONS AND THE RESIGNATION 24:50.400 --> 24:52.800 align:start OF AN L.R.C. DIRECTOR, THE 24:52.800 --> 24:54.680 align:start LEGISLATURE ASKED THE NATIONAL 24:54.680 --> 24:56.080 align:start CONFERENCE OF STATE LEGISLATORS 24:56.080 --> 24:59.760 align:start TO DO -- IT'S LIKE A TRADE 24:59.760 --> 25:00.110 align:start GROUP -- TO DO AN AUDIT AND A 25:00.110 --> 25:02.720 align:start REVIEW OF ALL OF THE PERSONNEL 25:02.720 --> 25:05.040 align:start POLICIES AND PAY AND SO FORTH. 25:05.040 --> 25:07.760 align:start WE ASKED SPEAKER STUMBO AND 25:07.760 --> 25:09.320 align:start SENATE PRESIDENT ROBERT STIVERS 25:09.320 --> 25:10.920 align:start THEY SAID THAT THEY THOUGHT IT 25:10.920 --> 25:11.440 align:start WAS NEARING COMPLETION. 25:11.440 --> 25:13.720 align:start THEY HAD BEEN IN COMMUNICATION 25:13.720 --> 25:17.200 align:start WITH THE NCSL PEOPLE BUT THAT 25:17.200 --> 25:19.040 align:start DON'T HAVE A FINISHED REPORT. 25:19.040 --> 25:20.880 align:start CONSEQUENTLY, THEY ALSO HAVE NO 25:20.880 --> 25:23.520 align:start MADE A MOVE ON HIRING A PERM TH 25:23.520 --> 25:24.520 align:start NENT DIRECTOR. 25:24.520 --> 25:25.200 align:start AT THIS POINT. 25:25.200 --> 25:28.110 align:start >> U.K.'S COACH CAL GETS A 25:28.110 --> 25:30.100 align:start $52 MILLION SEVEN-YEAR CONTRACT 25:30.100 --> 25:31.480 align:start EXTENSION. 25:31.480 --> 25:33.240 align:start WAYNE DROWNS ALSO GETS AN 25:33.240 --> 25:34.100 align:start EXTENSION TO MOREHEAD STATE BUT 25:34.100 --> 25:36.960 align:start I DON'T THINK IT'S AS LUCRATIVE 25:36.960 --> 25:38.000 align:start >> PROBABLY NOT. 25:38.000 --> 25:40.480 align:start >> DOES THAT MEAN HE'S GOING TO 25:40.480 --> 25:41.000 align:start GO TO THE PRONESS. 25:41.000 --> 25:42.000 align:start >> WELL, WE DON'T KNOW. 25:42.000 --> 25:43.600 align:start >> THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO 25:43.600 --> 25:43.100 align:start BELIEVE. 25:43.100 --> 25:45.240 align:start >> I THINK IT'S WHAT'S DESIGNED 25:45.240 --> 25:47.100 align:start IN THAT OFFER, THAT CONTRACT. 25:47.100 --> 25:48.100 align:start TRIPLE CROWN TOMORROW JUST 25:48.100 --> 25:49.280 align:start QUICKLY. 25:49.280 --> 25:50.240 align:start IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN? 25:50.240 --> 25:52.240 align:start YOU DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN? 25:52.240 --> 25:53.720 align:start >> I DON'T LIKE ROOTING AGAINST 25:53.720 --> 25:54.960 align:start THE HORSE BECAUSE I KNOW THE 25:54.960 --> 25:55.880 align:start HORSE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING BUT 25:55.880 --> 25:57.440 align:start WHEN THE OWNER COMES HERE AND 25:57.440 --> 25:58.100 align:start BADMOUTHS CHURCHILL, I THINK MY 25:58.100 --> 26:00.920 align:start KENTUCKY RED FLARES UP A LITTLE 26:00.920 --> 26:01.040 align:start BIT. 26:01.040 --> 26:03.200 align:start >> TRIPLE CROWN WINNER? 26:03.200 --> 26:03.600 align:start I HAVE. 26:03.600 --> 26:04.240 align:start >> NO PREDICTION BUT I HOPE 26:04.240 --> 26:05.120 align:start THERE IS ONE. 26:05.120 --> 26:05.880 align:start IT'S BEEN TOO LONG. 26:05.880 --> 26:07.200 align:start >> I HONESTLY THINK THERE WILL 26:07.200 --> 26:07.520 align:start BE. 26:07.520 --> 26:08.000 align:start >> THERE WE GO. 26:08.000 --> 26:10.480 align:start THANKS FOR BEING HERE OUR PANEL 26:10.480 --> 26:11.160 align:start APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE 26:11.160 --> 26:14.320 align:start TUNE IN MONDAY AT 8:00/7:00 26:14.320 --> 26:15.560 align:start CENTRAL FOR "KENTUCKY TONIGHT" 26:15.560 --> 26:17.440 align:start WHEN BILL GOODMAN AND GUESTS 26:17.440 --> 26:18.800 align:start WILL DISCUSS U.S. FOREIGN POLIC 26:18.800 --> 26:20.200 align:start AND THERE'S A WHOLE LOT GOING O 26:20.200 --> 26:20.110 align:start THERE. 26:20.110 --> 26:22.760 align:start THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR 26:22.760 --> 26:23.560 align:start "COMMENT." 26:23.560 --> 26:26.480 align:start HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND AND AND A 26:25.120 --> 26:27.040 align:start SUPER WEEK AHEAD.