1 00:00:09,100 --> 00:00:10,560 >> TOUGH NEW ENVIRONMENTAL 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:11,200 STANDARDS LEAD TO UNCERTAINTY 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:11,920 AND CONCERNS IN THE COAL 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,760 PRODUCING STATE OF KENTUCKY. 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,000 BLUEGRASS STATE DEMOCRATS 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,680 DISTANCE THEMSELVES FROM THE 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,680 WHITE HOUSE AND KENTUCKY 8 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:20,600 REPUBLICANS POUNCE ON THE ISSUE 9 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,960 AS THE CAMPAIGN SEASON ROLLS ON 10 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:24,640 A CITY SUES OVER INVESTMENTS 11 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:25,240 MADE BY THE STATE RETIREMENT 12 00:00:25,240 --> 00:00:27,080 SYSTEM. 13 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,720 THE NATIONAL V.A. SCANDAL HITS 14 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,200 HOME FOR MANY IN KENTUCKY. 15 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,440 BEFORE WE SEE IF THERE''S A 16 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,160 TRIPLE CROWN WINNER, WE''LL RUN 17 00:00:33,160 --> 00:00:33,920 THROUGH THE ISSUES FACING 18 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,760 KENTUCKY. 19 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:48,320 "COMMENT" IS NEXT ON KET GOOD 20 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,080 EVENING. 21 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,400 I'M BILL BRIGHTEN ANCHOR AND 22 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:57,800 MANAGING EDITOR ON THE KWKWT. 23 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:58,320 OUR GUESTS ON COMMENT ON 24 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,720 KENTUCKY ARE: 25 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:00,360 JAMES BRUGGERS, ENVIRONMENTAL 26 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:07,240 JOURNALIST FOR THE 27 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:07,100 AND RONNIE ELLIS, CNHI NEWS 28 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:09,200 SERVICE. 29 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,110 IT'S TIMELY TO HAVE THE STATE'S 30 00:01:10,110 --> 00:01:12,320 ONLY FULL-TIME ENVIRONMENTAL A 31 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:13,680 JOURNALIST WITH US TONIGHT. 32 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,080 JIM, THANKS FOR COMING BACK. 33 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,110 WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. 34 00:01:16,110 --> 00:01:19,640 THESE NEW RULERS DESIGNED TO BE 35 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:19,100 STRINGENT. 36 00:01:19,100 --> 00:01:21,400 WHAT DOES IT APPEARS TO MEAN IN 37 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,800 THIS COAL-PRODUCING STATE OF 38 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,040 KENTUCKY? 39 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,640 WHAT WILL THE REQUIREMENTS BE 40 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,000 FOR THE BLUEGRASS STATESOME. 41 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,040 >> TECHNICALLY WHAT THE 42 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,360 REQUIREMENTS ARE GOING TO BE IS 43 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,720 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REDUCE 44 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,400 THE RATE OF EMISSIONS, THE 45 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,040 POUNDS PER KILOWATT HOUR BY 18% 46 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,480 BY 2030 I THINK WE MAY BE 47 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,280 HALFWAY THERE. 48 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,360 I'M NOT SURE. 49 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,400 I THINK RIGHT NOW IN THE STATE 50 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,280 CAPITOL THE ENERGY CABINET IS 51 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,320 GOING OVER THE HUNDREDS AND 52 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:46,360 HUNDREDS OF PAGES OF 53 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:46,960 REGULATIONS. 54 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:47,100 THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE STATE'S 55 00:01:47,100 --> 00:01:49,720 FLEET OF COAL-FIRED POWER 56 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:50,000 PLANTS. 57 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,480 THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE 58 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,240 DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT THEY 59 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:52,100 HAVE. 60 00:01:52,100 --> 00:01:55,560 THE RULES ACTUALLY HAVE BUILT I 61 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,480 A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY, IN PART 62 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,100 BECAUSE GOVERN BESHEAR AND 63 00:02:00,100 --> 00:02:02,840 SECRETARY LYNN PETERS ACTUALLY 64 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:03,760 PRESSED THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATIO 65 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,480 FOR THAT TYPE OF FLEXIBILITY. 66 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,480 SO WE REALLY DON'T KNOW YET 67 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,400 EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS. 68 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,000 BUT WE WILL, THERE'S 120-DAY 69 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:12,100 COMMENT PERIOD THAT'S GOING ON 70 00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:14,240 RIGHT NOW, AND WE'LL GET A 71 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,200 BETTER IDEA AS THE AGENCIES 72 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,000 START COMMENTING. 73 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,600 >> HOW DOES KENTUCKY RANK IN 74 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:20,360 TERMS OF EMISSIONS? 75 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,120 >> WELL, IN TERMS OF THE 76 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,160 EMISSION RATE WE'RE ACTUALLY 77 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,110 EITHER FIRST OR SECOND DEPENDIN 78 00:02:24,110 --> 00:02:26,880 ON WHO ACTUALLY DID -- WHICH 79 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,320 YEAR IT IS. 80 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,400 AND SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT 81 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,160 AT STAKE HERE. 82 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,160 WE'RE 90-SOME PERCENT OF OUR 83 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,360 ELECTRICITY GENERATION IS FROM 84 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,280 COAL. 85 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,100 WE'RE THE THIRD LARGEST COAL 86 00:02:38,100 --> 00:02:40,280 MINING STATE IN THE COUNTRY. 87 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,920 SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT AT 88 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:42,800 STAKE. 89 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,800 AND THIS IS A HISTORIC 90 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:46,080 REGULATION. 91 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,440 THE GOVERNMENT HAS NOT REGULATE 92 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,080 CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS FROM 93 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,560 COAL FOR COAL FJORD POWER PLANT 94 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,040 BEFORE. 95 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,320 AND SO -- COAL FIRED POWER 96 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,400 PLANTS BEFORE. 97 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,110 AND IT'S JUST DIFFICULT TO SAY, 98 00:02:58,110 --> 00:03:00,200 THOUGH, EXACTLY WHAT IT IS 99 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,760 BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL SO 100 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,520 COMPLICATED, THE RULES ARE 101 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:04,040 EXTREMELY COMPLICATED. 102 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,640 >> AND THERE ARE LIKELY TO BE A 103 00:03:05,640 --> 00:03:06,110 NUMBER OF LAWSUITS, ARE THERE 104 00:03:06,110 --> 00:03:08,400 NOT, AS WELL, NOT JUST IN 105 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:09,400 KENTUCKY BUT NATIONALLY. 106 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,280 THIS IS A LONG WAY FROM 107 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:11,840 IMPLEMENTATION. 108 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,520 >> EVERY E.P.A. -- BIG E.P.A. 109 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,280 RULE THAT GETS INTRODUCED, 110 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,160 THERE'S LAWSUITS INVOLVED. 111 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:19,100 THE ONING THAT THAT'S PRETTY 112 00:03:19,100 --> 00:03:21,040 INTERESTING, THOUGH, IS THAT 113 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,680 UNLIKE THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION 114 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,110 THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION WHICH 115 00:03:24,110 --> 00:03:26,040 PROMULGATED A NUMBER OF RULES 116 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,600 UNDER THE CLEAR AIR ACT AND 117 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:28,960 ACTUALLY HAD SOME OF THEM 118 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,120 OVERTURNED, SO FAR THE OBAMA 119 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,240 ADMINISTRATION HAS ACTUALLY A 120 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,120 LITTLE BIT BETTER TRACK RECORD 121 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,000 OF HOW IT'S BEEN ENACTING 122 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,640 DIFFERENT OR PROMULGATING 123 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,000 DIFFERENT RULES. 124 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,600 THIS IS A COMPLETELY NEW KIND 125 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,600 OF -- A NEW POLLUTANT THAT WE'R 126 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,280 REGULATING AND SO WHO KNOWS. 127 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,680 BUT THE ONE THANK THAT IS CLEAR 128 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,960 IS THAT THE SUPREME COURT HAS 129 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,100 RULED THAT THE E.P.A. ACTUALLY 130 00:03:51,100 --> 00:03:56,240 HAS AN OBLIGATION TO REGULATE 131 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:56,100 CO2 EMISSIONS. 132 00:03:56,100 --> 00:03:59,840 >> RONNIE, AS WE MENTIONED, THE 133 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:00,880 BESHEAR ADMINISTRATION PUSHED 134 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,100 FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY AND PUSHED 135 00:04:02,100 --> 00:04:04,000 AGAINST SOME OF THE MOST 136 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,600 STRINGENT ELEMENTS OF THIS. 137 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:06,100 DID THEY WIN SOME OF THOSE 138 00:04:06,100 --> 00:04:07,280 BATTLES? 139 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,600 >> WELL, IT APPEARS, LOOKING AT 140 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,360 IT AT FIRST GLANCE, THAT THEY 141 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:11,100 DID. 142 00:04:11,100 --> 00:04:13,720 LAST YEAR WE HEARD SECRETARY 143 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,840 PETERS ON A NUMBER OVERCROWDING 144 00:04:16,840 --> 00:04:17,880 CASES TESTIFYING BEFORE 145 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:18,840 LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEES THAT HE 146 00:04:18,840 --> 00:04:19,100 WAS LOOKING FOR I GUESS WHAT 147 00:04:19,100 --> 00:04:22,600 THEY CALL IT IN THE BUSINESS AS 148 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,960 OUTSIDE THE FENCE TYPE, MEANING 149 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,800 NOT JUST THE POWER PLANT BUT 150 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,320 WHEREVER YOU CAN FIND REDUCTION 151 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,800 MEETING AN OVERALL STATEWIDE NE 152 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:33,440 REDUCTION TARGET. 153 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,800 AND THIS ALLOWS THEM TO DO THAT 154 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,080 BUT WHEN THE RULE -- WHEN THE 155 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,600 RULE CAME OUT MONDAY, I SAW 156 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,320 COMMENT BOTH FROM HIM AND THE 157 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,760 CABINET AND FROM THE GOVERNOR, 158 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,680 AND I ONLY GOT IT FROM THE 159 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,320 GOVERNOR, THE CABINET SAID THAT 160 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,080 WOULD BE THEIR STATEMENT THAT 161 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,640 DAY, AND HE WAS, GOVERNOR 162 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,040 BESHEAR SEEMED LESS THAN HAPPY. 163 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,720 >> IS THE COAL INDUSTRY RIGHT T 164 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,280 BE HORRIFIED BY THIS? 165 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:02,400 VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS? 166 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:03,100 IN TERMS OF THE LOSS OF THE COA 167 00:05:03,100 --> 00:05:04,100 JOBS IN KENTUCKY. 168 00:05:04,100 --> 00:05:07,920 >> THE COAL INDUSTRY HAS HAD A 169 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,560 LOT OF, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF 170 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,280 JOB LOSS AND THEY'RE SEEING 171 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:14,400 POWER PLANTS MOVE FROM COAL TO 172 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:15,100 NATURAL GAS FOR A VARIETY OF 173 00:05:15,100 --> 00:05:17,520 REASONS, BUT ONE OF THE BIG ONE 174 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,280 IS THAT NATURAL GAS IS REALLY 175 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:21,520 PRETTY CHEAP RIGHT NOW, AND SO, 176 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,160 YEAH, I GETS GUESS, I THINK THA 177 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,200 THEY PROBABLY HAVE A RIGHT TO B 178 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,720 OR REASON TO BE CONCERNED, BUT 179 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,840 AT THE SAME TIME, FROM WHAT I 180 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:31,160 CAN TELL, I DON'T THINK THAT -- 181 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,000 I MEAN THEY'RE STILL 182 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,240 ANTICIPATING THAT WE'RE GOING T 183 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,400 HAVE SOME 30% OF OUR ELECTRICIT 184 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:39,040 IN THIS COUNTRY GENERATED BY 185 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:39,680 COAL IN THE FUTURE. 186 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,840 >> EVEN BEYOND 2030? 187 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:44,000 >> BY 2030 I THINK IS WHAT WE'R 188 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:44,400 TALKING. 189 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,760 >> I HEARD JOHN PODESTA AN 190 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,600 ADVISER TO OBAMA WHO IS INVOLVE 191 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:51,440 IN THERE THE HACKERS SAYING BY 192 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,440 2030 THEY THOUGHT WE WOULD STIL 193 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,480 BE GENERATING 30% OF OUR 194 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:56,560 ELECTRICITY NATIONALLY THROUGH 195 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,600 COAL, AND IT'S GOWN DOWN TO 38 196 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,100 NOW AND THAT INCLUDES SEDATES 197 00:06:00,100 --> 00:06:03,080 LIKE KENTUCKY THAT ARE 92 AND 198 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,720 WEST VIRGINIA I THINK IS 96. 199 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,110 SO THESE ARE NOT -- THEY BASE - 200 00:06:06,110 --> 00:06:10,110 THEY'RE SO-CALLED BASELINE ON 201 00:06:10,110 --> 00:06:13,720 2005 RATHER THAN 2008, WHICH 202 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,360 MEANS NEARLY ALL OF THESE WE'VE 203 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,360 ALREADY HAD 10% REDUCTIONS IN A 204 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,840 LOT OF THESE THINGS SIMPLY 205 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:21,600 THROUGH THE USE OF NATURAL GAS. 206 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:22,680 SO WE'RE PART OF THE WAY THERE 207 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:22,100 ALREADY. 208 00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:24,240 >> FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS A VER 209 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,720 LARGE POWER PLANT IN LOUISVILLE 210 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,080 CALLED DID K1 POWER PLANT. 211 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,110 LG&E PLANS TO CONVERT THAT TO 212 00:06:30,110 --> 00:06:31,920 NATURAL GAS, AND AS A MATTER OF 213 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,080 FACT THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS. 214 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,560 I WAS TOLDED TO THAT THE STATE 215 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,400 WILL GET CREDIT FOR THE 216 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:38,880 CONVERSION. 217 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,280 THAT PLANT WILL PROBABLY PRODUC 218 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:42,200 ABOUT HALF THE GREENHOUSE GASSE 219 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,760 THAT A COAL PLANT WOULD AND SKO 220 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,640 WE'LL GET CREDIT FOR THAT. 221 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,200 LG&E AND K.U. AND GOING FROM 90 222 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,520 DEPENDENT ON COAL TO 80% IN TWO 223 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:54,880 YEARS. 224 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,640 >> SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT 225 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:57,520 OPTIONS FOR STATE. 226 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,560 >> THERE ARE. 227 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:59,720 AND ONE OF THE THINGS PEOPLE 228 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,040 MIGHT BE SEEING IS SEE MORE 229 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:02,100 PROGRAMS, AND, OF COURSE, THE 230 00:07:02,100 --> 00:07:03,100 STATE IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME 231 00:07:03,100 --> 00:07:05,520 UP WITH A PLAN, AND HOW THAT 232 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,840 PLAN IS SHAPED WILL BE IMPORTAN 233 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:09,040 IN DETERMINING EXACTLY WHAT 234 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:09,520 HAPPENS. 235 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:10,110 BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST BOUGHT A 236 00:07:10,110 --> 00:07:13,040 NEW REFRIGERATOR, AND WE'RE 237 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,100 GOING TO GET A $100 DEBATE FROM 238 00:07:15,100 --> 00:07:17,280 LG&E THROUGH SOMETHING CALLED 239 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,160 DEMAND SIDE CONSERVATION, AND S 240 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,720 WREAK SEE MERE OF THAT KIND OF 241 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,280 PROGRAM WHERE OUR -- WHERE 242 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,960 YOU'RE ABLE TO GET IF SAVINGS, 243 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,240 THE CO TWO SAVINGS BY GETTING 244 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:30,600 EFFICIENCY IN PEOPLE'S HOMES AN 245 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:30,100 BUSINESSES. 246 00:07:30,100 --> 00:07:32,480 >> SAM, THE POLITICAL FALLOUT 247 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,520 FROM THIS WAS INSTANT. 248 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,280 DEMOCRATIC HOUSE SPEAKER GREG 249 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,760 STUMBO USED COLORFUL LANGUAGE T 250 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,480 TRY TO PUT DISTANCE BETWEEN 251 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,160 KENTUCKY DEMOCRATS AND THE OBAM 252 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:42,920 ADMINISTRATION. 253 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,520 ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE SENATOR 254 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:45,100 MITCH McCONNELL CAME FORTH 255 00:07:45,100 --> 00:07:47,040 WITH A PROPOSED COAL COUNTRY 256 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,360 PROTECTION ACT THAT WOULD FORCE 257 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:50,360 THE GOVERNMENT TO CERTIFICATE 258 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:51,720 FOY THAT THERE WOULD BE NO 259 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,520 DAMAGE DONE TO JOBS AND THAT NO 260 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:55,520 UTILITIES RATES WOULD BE HIGHER 261 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,100 THAT WAS DEFEATED. 262 00:07:57,100 --> 00:07:59,100 THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY 263 00:07:59,100 --> 00:08:00,100 ACTIVITY POLITICAL ISSUE, ISN'T 264 00:08:00,100 --> 00:08:01,120 IT? 265 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:01,100 >> IT ABSOLUTELY IS. 266 00:08:01,100 --> 00:08:03,000 I WAS ACTUALLY JUST THINKING 267 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,560 THAT THIS IS THE MOST THOUGHTFU 268 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,480 NUANCED DISCUSSION OF COAL 269 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,720 REGULARS I'VE HEARD ALL WITH -- 270 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:10,720 REG GOES ALL WEEK. 271 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,480 YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT FROM 272 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:13,040 THE SENATE CANDIDATES. 273 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,000 THIS IS THE FIRST BIG SKIRMISH 274 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,080 CONFIDENT ELECTION. 275 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:18,680 KNIGHT WAS COMING. 276 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,360 BOATS CAMPAIGNS PREPARED 277 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:20,840 ACCORDINGLY. 278 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:21,560 McCONNELL DID WHAT WE EXPECTED 279 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:22,100 HIM TO DO, HE HAMMERED GRIMES O 280 00:08:22,100 --> 00:08:24,120 THIS EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK. 281 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,100 NOW, I LOOK AT THE GRIMES 282 00:08:25,100 --> 00:08:26,680 CAMPAIGN. 283 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,000 I THINK THEIR INSTINCT WERE 284 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:28,560 RIGHT ON. 285 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,080 THEIR EXECUTION WAS A BIT OF A 286 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,100 STRUGGLE THIS WEEK. 287 00:08:31,100 --> 00:08:33,800 I THINK IT WAS THE DEPARTMENT O 288 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:34,110 BAD TIMING THAT SHE WOULD BE 289 00:08:34,110 --> 00:08:39,320 DOING A FUNDRAISER WITH SENATE 290 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:40,000 MAJORITY LEADER HARRY REID THIS 291 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:40,100 WEEK. 292 00:08:40,100 --> 00:08:41,100 THE GRIMES CAMPAIGN IS RIGHT TO 293 00:08:41,100 --> 00:08:42,800 BE CONCERNED. 294 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:43,880 THEY'RE RIGHT TO BE PUSHING BAC 295 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:44,440 AS HARD AS THEY ARE. 296 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,440 IF WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS FROM 297 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:47,880 PRIMARY NIGHT, AND WE HAVE ALL 298 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:48,110 TALKED ABOUT ABOUT THIS BEFORE 299 00:08:48,110 --> 00:08:50,720 WHERE DID SHE UNDERPERFORM? 300 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:51,800 COAL COUNTRY EAST AND WEST. 301 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,960 SOME OF THOSE COUNTIES WHERE SH 302 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,110 DID RUN 65%, THESE ARE PLACES 303 00:08:55,110 --> 00:08:58,040 WHERE THE BIG PROTEST VOTE 304 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,440 AGAINST BARACK OBAMA IN 2012, 305 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:00,640 THAT'S WHERE THAT ORIGINAL NATE 306 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,100 AND IT'S HURTING HER, TOO. 307 00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:04,040 THEY'RE RIGHT TO SORT TRIAGE 308 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:04,480 THAT AREA. 309 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,360 >> MITT ROMNEY WON ALL BUT ONE 310 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:08,520 OF THE 30 COUNTIES THAT PRODUCE 311 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:08,880 COAL. 312 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,640 SHE HAS TO IMPROVE THERE. 313 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:10,100 RIGHT? 314 00:09:10,100 --> 00:09:11,640 >> ABSOLUTELY. 315 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,100 I THINK SHE'S GOING TO DO -- I 316 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:15,520 DON'T THINK SHE'S GOING TO WIN 317 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,760 COAL COUNTRY, BUT SHE CAN 318 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,880 MITIGATE LOSSES AND STILL TRY T 319 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,160 OVERPERFORM IN OTHER STARTS 320 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,040 PARTS OF THE STATE BUT RIGHT NO 321 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,100 WHAT WE'RE SEEING FROM THEM IS 322 00:09:24,100 --> 00:09:26,760 IS IT COAL OR IS OBAMA THE 323 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:26,110 ISSUE? 324 00:09:26,110 --> 00:09:28,160 AND I THINK THE PRESIDENT IS 325 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,040 AGAIN TISSUE JUST LIKE WITH 326 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,640 HEALTHCARE, IT'S ALL SORT OF 327 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,480 PART AND PARCEL OF THE SAME 328 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,880 DISCUSSION. 329 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,760 IT'S NOT ARE YOU FOR COAL. 330 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:37,110 IT'S ARE YOU FOR HARRY REID AS 331 00:09:37,110 --> 00:09:39,080 MAJORITY LEADER. 332 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,100 >> WHEN McCONNELL INTRODUCED 333 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:42,680 THE BILL AND MADE A SPEECH ON 334 00:09:42,680 --> 00:09:46,800 THE SENATE FLOOR, HE CALLED IT 335 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,080 OBAMACARE 2.0, SO OBVIOUSLY THE 336 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,800 OBAMA FACTOR IS STILL HUGE AS 337 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:51,100 WELL AS COAL. 338 00:09:51,100 --> 00:09:55,080 >> DID GRIMES EFFECTIVELY PLACE 339 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,800 DISTANCE BETWEEN HERSELF AND TH 340 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,100 OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AND, IN 341 00:09:59,100 --> 00:10:01,800 PARTICULAR, THIS SET OF 342 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:02,080 REGULATIONS? 343 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,200 >> IT'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING 344 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,440 BATTLE FOR HER, AND WHEN IT 345 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:05,920 COMES TO COAL, I THINK IT'S 346 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,240 GOING TO BE AN UPHILL BATTLE FO 347 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,200 HER JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT THE 348 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,080 NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS 349 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,000 PERCEIVED AS DOING, THIS WAR ON 350 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:12,100 COAL THAT SENATOR McCONNELL 351 00:10:12,100 --> 00:10:13,100 HAS CONTINUED TO PUSH. 352 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:15,440 I THINK THERE WAS AN INCIDENT 353 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,080 TOWARDS THE END OF THE WEEK 354 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:17,110 YESTERDAY WHERE IT WAS REVEALED 355 00:10:17,110 --> 00:10:19,680 THAT AS PART OF THEY ARE 356 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:21,800 PUSHBACK ON COAL, THEY HAD USED 357 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,160 A OR ALMOST USED A UKRAINIAN 358 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,110 MODEL AS A COAL MINOR. 359 00:10:25,110 --> 00:10:27,100 A COAL MINOR, THIS MODEL WAS 360 00:10:27,100 --> 00:10:30,400 DRESSED UP AS A COAL MINOR, TAG 361 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:30,100 WAS AVERTED THIS. 362 00:10:30,100 --> 00:10:33,440 THEY USED AN AMERICAN MODEL TO 363 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:34,120 DO IT INSTEPPED AND AGAIN I GO 364 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,160 BACK TO THEIR INSTINCTS ON THE 365 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,520 PUSHBACK AGAINST THIS. 366 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:38,320 THE EXECUTION IS NOT GREAT. 367 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,100 >> I WONDER WHETHER GRIMES 368 00:10:40,100 --> 00:10:42,400 RISKED LOSING ANY OF THEY ARE 369 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,760 BASE IN MAYBE LEXINGTON OR 370 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,280 LOUISVILLE, SOME OF THE 371 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,160 DEMOCRATIC BASE THAT MIGHT 372 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,040 ACTUALLY WELCOME THE REGULATION 373 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:49,840 THAT THEY PASSED. 374 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,400 >> IF SHE PIVOTS TO THE RIGHT 375 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,520 ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES YOU'RE 376 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:54,320 SAYING DOES SHE RISK -- 377 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,440 >> I THINK THAT'S HEY PROBLEM 378 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:56,110 FOR HER IF IT'S A PROBLEM AT AL 379 00:10:56,110 --> 00:10:58,400 ONLY ON THE FUNDRAISING SIDE 380 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,880 BECAUSE AT LEAST AMONG THE 381 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,100 ELECTORATE IN KENTUCKY, THOSE 382 00:11:02,100 --> 00:11:06,200 FOLKS ARE GOING TO VIEW HER AS 383 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,040 PERFECTLY TO McCONNELL, AND 384 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,160 THEY PROBABLY -- PREFERABLE TO 385 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:09,110 McCONNELL, AND THEY PROBABLY 386 00:11:09,110 --> 00:11:11,600 ARE DOING THE REVERSE OF WHAT 387 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,320 McCONNELL IS TRYING TO CON 388 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,880 SINCE CONSERVATIVE VOTERS TO 389 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,880 THINK ABOUT. 390 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,320 SHE WILL HELP TOW MAINTAIN THE 391 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:19,400 DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY IN THE 392 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:20,560 SENATE. 393 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:24,040 SO, YOU KNOW, LESS ENTHUSIASM, 394 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,120 YES, BUT I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF 395 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,120 THOSE PEOPLE AND THEY'RE GOING 396 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,360 TO RELUCTANTLY IN SOME CASES, 397 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:29,600 BUT I THINK THEY'LL STILL VOTE 398 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:29,100 FOR HER. 399 00:11:29,100 --> 00:11:31,800 >> I'VE WONDERED ABOUT THIS, 400 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:32,110 TOO, ON ISSUES LIKE GUNS, FOR 401 00:11:32,110 --> 00:11:34,440 EXAMPLE. 402 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:35,920 COAL, ON HEALTHCARE YOU'VE GOT 403 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,320 OTHER DEMOCRATS REAL BEING VOCA 404 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,200 ON HOW THEY EMBRACE THE MEASURE 405 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,920 BUT HERE'S THE THING. 406 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:41,840 THERE'S ALMOST NOTHING SHE CAN 407 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,320 DO OR SAY THAT'S GOING TO MAKE 408 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:44,100 HER BASE THINK THAT SHE'S LESS 409 00:11:44,100 --> 00:11:45,560 APPEALING THAN MITCH 410 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:45,100 McCONNELL. 411 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:48,320 HE IS A BOOGEYMAN NOT JUST TO 412 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,800 KENTUCKY DEMOCRATS OR LIBERAL 413 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:50,440 DEMOCRATS BUT ALL OVER THE 414 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:50,100 COUNTRY. 415 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:52,320 SO I MEAN SHE'S GOT A WHOLE LOT 416 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,560 OF ROOM HERE TO WORK. 417 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:55,320 >> I THINK PART OF HER PROBLEM 418 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,320 THE ON COAL THING IS SHE MAY BE 419 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,160 ABLE DO CONVINCE SOME VOTERS WH 420 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,440 IN THE PAST VOTED AGAINST 421 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,080 DEMOCRATS THAT SHE GENUINELY IS 422 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,800 AN ALLY OF COAL, BUT THEY'RE 423 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,320 GOING TO FACE THAT REVERSE LOGI 424 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,920 THAT HER ENVIRONMENT FRIENDS AR 425 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:12,100 THINKING, THEY MIGHT THINK, 426 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:14,800 OKAY, SHE IS AN ALLY BUT I'M 427 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,080 VOTING TO KEEP THE DEMOCRATIC 428 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:16,110 MAJORITY IN THE SENATE AND THEY 429 00:12:16,110 --> 00:12:18,520 ARE NOT AN ALLY. 430 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,360 SO IT'S A TOUGH BATTLE FOR THEM 431 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,400 >> THE OTHER THING I'D SAY ABOU 432 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,920 THIS IS WEAR NOW THEE WEEKS FRO 433 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,520 THE PRIMARY, AND FOR THE WHOLE 434 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:26,100 THREE WEEKS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT 435 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:28,280 THE ISSUES THAT MITCH 436 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:29,160 McCONNELL EITHER BY DESIGN, 437 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:30,760 COINCIDENCE OR ACCIDENT, WE'RE 438 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:31,100 TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES EACH O 439 00:12:31,100 --> 00:12:33,280 THESE THREE WEEKS THAT HE WANTS 440 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:33,110 TO BE TALKING ABOUT. 441 00:12:33,110 --> 00:12:35,160 FIRST IT WAS DEBATES AND 442 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:35,100 HEALTHCARE AND NOW GOAL. 443 00:12:35,100 --> 00:12:37,100 I THINK SHE'S GOT TO FIND A WAY 444 00:12:37,100 --> 00:12:40,360 TO SET THE TEMPO WHERE SHE'S NO 445 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,880 ALWAYS ON DEFENSE, AND UNLESS 446 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,000 THEY CAN FIND WAY TO DO THAT. 447 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,360 MINIMUM WAGE IS A GOOD ISSUE FO 448 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:44,880 THEY ARE. 449 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:45,960 I THINK THEY'VE GOT TO FIND MOR 450 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:46,360 ISSUES LIKE THAT. 451 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,120 >> AS YOU MENTIONED WITH ISSUE 452 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,520 IS UKRAINIAN COAL MINOR BALM A 453 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,880 24-HOUR ISSUE TO THAT WAS IN TH 454 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,480 NEWS CYCLE FOR THAT PERIOD OF 455 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,600 TIME. 456 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,040 WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT HOW 457 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,720 COMMERCIALS ARE MADE AND DONE 458 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,000 AND, RONNIE, ARE WE PAST THE 459 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,720 TIME WHEN YOU CAN GO INTO A TV 460 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:04,100 STUDIO AND LOOK INTO A CAMERA 461 00:13:04,100 --> 00:13:06,680 AND TELL PEOPLE WHAT BUREAU 462 00:13:06,680 --> 00:13:07,920 GOING TO DO IF YOU'RE ELECTED? 463 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:08,960 >> WE ARE. 464 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,360 WHEN THIS THING CAME OUT 465 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,000 YESTERDAY, THE GRIMES CAMPAIGN 466 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,110 WAS ALL OF 30 MINUTES IN COMING 467 00:13:13,110 --> 00:13:16,100 BACK WITH EXAMPLES THAT 468 00:13:16,100 --> 00:13:18,240 McCONNELL CAMPAIGN HAD DONE A 469 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,960 SIMILAR THING WITH SPOTS UP ON 470 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,720 FACEBOOK AND SO FORTH. 471 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,600 I ACTUALLY WROTE IN MY COLUMN 472 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:29,000 THIS WEEK, WEEKEND I EXCERPTED 473 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,440 VERY DIRECT EXPLANATION OF HIS 474 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,080 POSITION ON SLAVERY THAT LINCOL 475 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,840 USED IN 1858 IN ONE OF THE 476 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,560 LINCOLN-DO YOU GO DEBATES AND 477 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:38,120 ASKED MY READERS CAN YOU IMAGIN 478 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,800 EITHER McCONNELL OR GRIMES 479 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,200 TALKING LIKE THAT TO VOTERS? 480 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,080 NO, WE'RE LONG PAST THOSE DAYS. 481 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:44,840 UNFORTUNATELY AND SADLY. 482 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,920 >> THERE'S A STATEWIDE 483 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,800 LINCOLN-REAGAN DINNER THAT WILL 484 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:50,110 BE TOMORROW FIGHT. 485 00:13:50,110 --> 00:13:52,080 THE REPUBLICANS WILL GATHER IN 486 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:52,800 LOUISVILLE. 487 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,680 AND WHAT DO WE EXPECT TO BE 488 00:13:54,680 --> 00:13:55,360 DISCUSSED THERE? 489 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,080 IS THAT THE CLOSEST THING TO A 490 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,440 UNITY DINNER THAT REPUBLICANS 491 00:13:58,440 --> 00:13:59,080 WILL BE HOLDING THIS SUMMER? 492 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,100 >> IT IS. 493 00:14:00,100 --> 00:14:02,200 IT CERTAINLY SEEMS TO BE AT THI 494 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,040 POINT. 495 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,320 LOOK, THIS IS THEIR QUICK-OFF 496 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,560 RALLY, THE PEP RALLY TO GET 497 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:07,720 THINGS GOING. 498 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,640 THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE EVERYBODY 499 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:10,760 UNDER ONE ROOF. 500 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,000 IT'S NOS. AS MESSY AS A UNITY 501 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,720 EVENT BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW IF 502 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,680 THE GUY WHO BEAT YOU IS GOING 503 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:19,000 TONE DOORS YOU OR NOT. 504 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:19,100 TOMORROW IS GOING TO BE A BIG 505 00:14:19,100 --> 00:14:21,920 DAY FOR REPUBLICANS JUST AS THE 506 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:22,880 WINDOW 4 DINNER WILL BE FOR 507 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,400 DEMOCRATS IF THAT THEY NEED TO 508 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,280 AT LEAST PRESENT A UNIFIED 509 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,120 FRONT, THEY NEED TO MAKE OTHER 510 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,960 REPUBLICANS AROUND THE STATE 511 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,440 BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE ALL ON THE 512 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:32,960 SAME PAGE, THE SAME WAY 513 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,000 DEMOCRATS HAVE REALLY BEEN 514 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,720 EFFECTIVE IN PUSHING THE IDEA 515 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,840 THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS 516 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,360 MORE UNIFIED THAN IT HAS BEEN 517 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,280 SINCE JOEY CARROLL AS SPEAKER 518 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:41,880 STUMBO WOULD SAY. 519 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,120 >> AND SOME GUBERNATORIAL 520 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,240 CANDIDATES OR LIKELY CANDIDATES 521 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,100 ARE LIKELY TO BE IN THE ROOM AS 522 00:14:46,100 --> 00:14:48,880 WELL, HAL HIGHER THAN AND JAMES 523 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:49,240 COMER FOR TWO. 524 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,560 >> I DON'T THINK THEY'RE SEATED 525 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,480 TOGETHER BUT THAT WOULD BE FUN. 526 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,120 YEAH,, YOU KNOW, LOOK THAT'S TH 527 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,680 THING. 528 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:56,680 WE GET POCKED COMMUNITY SENATE 529 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:57,360 RACE AND WE FORGET FOR AT LEAST 530 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,720 A COUPLE OF CANDIDATES THE 531 00:14:58,720 --> 00:14:59,100 GOVERNOR'S RACE IS WELL 532 00:14:59,100 --> 00:15:00,600 UNDERWAY. 533 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:01,560 HAL HIGHER THAN HAS BEEN THE IN 534 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:02,100 RIS FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. 535 00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:04,100 HE CAME OUT WITH HIS FIRST 536 00:15:04,100 --> 00:15:07,800 TELEVISION AD GOING TO WIN 537 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,440 TOMORROW WHEN RIDE ON CURLIN IS 538 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,000 BEATING CALIFORNIA CHROME. 539 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,110 BUT YEAH, HIS FIRST SPOT IS OUT 540 00:15:14,110 --> 00:15:17,200 >> WHAT HAD THAT TELL YOU IF 541 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,600 HE'S RUNNING SOME ADDS TOMORROW 542 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:19,110 IN JUNE BEFORE THE PRIMARY OF 543 00:15:19,110 --> 00:15:20,360 NEXT YEAR. 544 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:20,760 >> 545 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,280 >> IT TELLS ME WHAT WE ALREADY 546 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:23,640 KNEW. 547 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,120 HE GOT IN THIS RACE VERY EARLY 548 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,760 FOR A VERY SPECIFIC REASON. 549 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,040 Y NOBODY KNOWS WHO HE IS AND 550 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,400 HE'S GOT TO CORRECT THAT. 551 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,100 THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO GET ON 552 00:15:31,100 --> 00:15:35,080 TV ON AND GOT IT BEFORE ANYBODY 553 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,440 ELSE IS. 554 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,280 RIGHT NOW HE IS SETTING TOW TON 555 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,320 FOR THE MESSAGE HE WANTS TO 556 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:41,800 SEND. 557 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,100 ALL ABOUT NO MORE FRANKFORT 558 00:15:43,100 --> 00:15:44,110 POLITICIANS. 559 00:15:44,110 --> 00:15:47,240 HE WANTS TO POSITION HIMSELF 560 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:47,100 ANSWER OUTSTANDING OUTSIDER 561 00:15:47,100 --> 00:15:49,440 AGAINST PRESUMABLY JAMES COMB 562 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,200 PER I THINK THAT THIS FIRST AD, 563 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,680 IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT MORE 564 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:53,100 FOR HIM TO CATCH UP TO WHERE 565 00:15:53,100 --> 00:15:55,640 COMER IS IN TERMS OF NAME I.D. 566 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:56,200 >> GO AHEAD. 567 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,520 >> I THINK THERE'S ONE QUICK 568 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,520 IMPORTANT POINT TO MAKE GOT 569 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:01,680 ABOUT THE GOVERNOR'S RACE 570 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:02,600 CIRCLING BACK TO THE E.P.A. 571 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:03,080 RULE. 572 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,560 IT'S THE NEXT GOVERNOR THAT IS 573 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,520 ACTUALLY GOING TO BE PREPARING 574 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,440 THE PLAN WITH SENDING THE PLAN 575 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,200 TO E.P.A. ON HOW KENTUCKY PLANS 576 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,680 TO COMPLY WITH THIS RULE. 577 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,080 SO THERE WILL BE A LOT AT TALK. 578 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,110 THAT ACTUALLY WILL BE A BIG 579 00:16:14,110 --> 00:16:15,320 ISSUE. 580 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:16,110 >> AND IT MAYBE THE GOVERNOR 581 00:16:16,110 --> 00:16:18,440 AFTER NEXT THAT HAS TO IMPLEMEN 582 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:18,760 IT. 583 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:19,520 >> THAT COULD BE. 584 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,560 >> WHAT ARE WE HEARING QUICKLY 585 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,560 ABOUT ADAM EDELEN'S TIME FRAME 586 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,100 FOR SOME KIND OF DECISION? 587 00:16:25,100 --> 00:16:27,600 HE IS ELIGIBLE FOR RE-ELECTION 588 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:28,880 TO STATE AUDITOR BUT HE'S MADE 589 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,110 IT VERY CLEAR THAT HE'S 590 00:16:30,110 --> 00:16:32,360 EXPLORING THE GOVERNOR'S RACE 591 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:32,920 VERY CAREFULLY. 592 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,000 >> I'M MORE UNSURE NOW WHAT ADA 593 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,480 IS THINKING THAN I HAVE BEEN AT 594 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:36,100 ANY POINT. 595 00:16:36,100 --> 00:16:38,960 I THINK THAT THERE'S SORT OF A 596 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,880 CAN BE HE WANTS TO GET IN, NOT 597 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,360 SURE IF HE SHOULD GET IN, AND 598 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,100 IT'S REACHING A BOILING POINT 599 00:16:43,100 --> 00:16:45,100 WHERE HE KNOWS A DECISION NEED 600 00:16:45,100 --> 00:16:47,360 TO BE MADE AND HE'S NOT SURE 601 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,320 WHAT THE DECISION IS. 602 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,110 >> NOTHING CONCRETE BUT WE WE 603 00:16:50,110 --> 00:16:53,560 TALKED WITH THIS WHEN SAM AND I 604 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,120 ROW A PANEL, IT JUST GOT THE 605 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,360 FEEL THAT HE'S PERHAPS 606 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:57,880 REEVALUATING. 607 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,840 >> IS JACK CONWAY OFF TO ANY 608 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,000 FAST START IN HIS RACE? 609 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:01,880 >> HE IS OUT THERE. 610 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,240 HE'S GOT A TICKET PUT TOGETHER. 611 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,120 HE CAN START RAISING MONEY, 612 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:07,720 WHICH HE HAS SOME PREVIOUS 613 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,100 SUCCESS AT, AND ALL THE POLLS 614 00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:12,000 THAT WE'VE SEEN OR BEEN TOLD 615 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,960 ABOUT, HE'S ALREADY GOT THE NAM 616 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:15,240 RECOGNITION. 617 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,120 >> HE'S BEEN PRETTY QUIET AND H 618 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:17,960 SAID HE WOULD BE. 619 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,840 HE SAID HE DIDN'T WANT TO 620 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,840 DISTRACT FROM HOUSE DEMOCRATIC 621 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,600 EFFORTS AND DIDN'T WANT TO 622 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:25,120 DISTRACT FROM THE GRIMES 623 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:25,560 CAMPAIGN. 624 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,560 HE SAID AT THE OUTSET IT WOULD 625 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:28,680 BE A QUIET BEGINNING. 626 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,680 HE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT A LOT OF 627 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:31,110 ON JUNE FUNDRAISING NUMBERS. 628 00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:35,480 IT'S THAT ABSENCE OF A MECHANIS 629 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:36,160 FOR ANY KIND OF EXPLORE TORRIE 630 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:36,920 COMMITTEE THAT IF YOU'RE 631 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:37,600 THINKING ABOUT IT YOU MIGHT AS 632 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:37,100 WELL GET IN. 633 00:17:37,100 --> 00:17:41,110 >> RONNIE, A NORTHERN CITY, 634 00:17:41,110 --> 00:17:43,100 INDEPENDENCE IS SUING THE STATE 635 00:17:43,100 --> 00:17:46,920 RETIREMENT SYSTEM ALLEGING 636 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,560 IMPRUDENT CAN INVESTING OF 637 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,560 HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLAR 638 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:51,760 MEANT FOR PENSIONS AND THAT 639 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,880 COMES AS TALK OF SEVEN COUNTIES 640 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,280 MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE OVER IN 641 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,760 JEFFERSON COUNTY IN THAT AREA 642 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,640 MAY BE PULLING OUT OF OF THE 643 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,160 RETIREMENT SYSTEM OR HAS THE 644 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:00,110 OPTION TO DO THAT NOW. 645 00:18:00,110 --> 00:18:02,760 >> YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN I 646 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,760 THIS BUSINESS AS LONG AS I HAVE 647 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,600 I THINK SOMETIMES THAT THERE AR 648 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:07,100 GOING TO BE PEOPLE IN 40 YEARS 649 00:18:07,100 --> 00:18:09,760 AS OLD AS I AM WHO HAVE WRITTEN 650 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,160 ABOUT THIS SAME STORY OVER AND 651 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,640 OVER. 652 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,200 WE SUPPOSEDLY HAD WORKED ON THE 653 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:16,040 PENSION SYSTEM. 654 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,040 YEAH, THE NORTHERN KENTUCKY CIT 655 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,100 IS ASKING FOR A COURT ORDER SO 656 00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:24,160 THAT IT'S CONTRIBUTIONS INTO TH 657 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,880 K.R.S. SYSTEM WILL NOT BE PLACE 658 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,360 IN HEDGE FUNDS AND SOME OF THES 659 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:29,440 OTHER SITUATIONS. 660 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,960 THEY ARE ALSO ASKING FOR CLASS 661 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,960 STATUS, CLASS ACTION STATUS, CH 662 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,080 MEANS OTHER CITIES MIGHT JOIN 663 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,560 THEM AND PROBABLY ARE THINKING 664 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,760 ABOUT IT. 665 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,600 MEANWHILE, LAST FRIDAY WHAT IS 666 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,720 POTENTIALLY A BIGGER MEDIA BLOW 667 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,100 TO THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM, SEVEN 668 00:18:45,100 --> 00:18:47,840 COUNTIES, WHICH IS A MENTAL 669 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,100 HEALTH CENTER SERVING THE REGIO 670 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:51,800 INCLUDING LOUISVILLE AND AROUND 671 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,240 LOUISVILLE, HAS FILED FOR 672 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,160 BANKRUPTCY AND HAS SOUGHT THE 673 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,280 ABILITY TO LEAVE THE SYSTEM. 674 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,960 THEY'RE FACING I THINK THEY SAY 675 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,100 A $2 MILLION OPERATING LOSS. 676 00:19:03,100 --> 00:19:04,100 AND THE CONTRIBUTION IS GOING T 677 00:19:04,100 --> 00:19:06,840 GO WAY UP UNDER THE REFORM 678 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,040 PACKAGE IN THE LEGISLATURE. 679 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,240 AND A JUDGE GRANTED THEM THAT. 680 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:13,160 THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM CITIES 681 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,000 ZEST THAT THIS COULD RESULT IF 682 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,240 THE OTHER MENTAL HEALTH CENTERS 683 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,100 JOIN IN, WITH AS MUCH AS 684 00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:22,840 $12.4 BILLION OVER THE NEXT 20 685 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:23,100 YEARS, AND THEY'RE ALREADY 686 00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:27,000 FACING AN $18 BILLION UNFUNDED 687 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:27,100 LIABILITY. 688 00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:29,360 SO THIS IS GOING TO BE BIG. 689 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:30,840 I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE STATE I 690 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,480 GOING TO APPEAL. 691 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,280 >> WELL, THESE CITIES, I KNOW 692 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,400 THAT WHEN I WAS SUNS THIS A 693 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,960 LITTLE BIT THIS WEEK SOME PEOPL 694 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,280 WERE SURPRISED TO FIND THAT A 695 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,600 LOT OF CITY EMPLOYEES ARE 696 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,100 COVERED UNDER THE STATE 697 00:19:41,100 --> 00:19:42,520 RETIREMENT SYSTEM. 698 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,120 >> AND THAT'S A SORE POINT 699 00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:46,960 BECAUSE IT'S CALLED THE COUNTY 700 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,920 EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT SYSTEM. 701 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,120 EVERYBODY CALLS IT S HAVE CERS. 702 00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:55,360 THE COASTLINE COUNTY, CITIES, 703 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:58,600 MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS AND SOME 704 00:19:58,600 --> 00:19:59,100 PERSONNEL, NON-TEACHING SCHOOL 705 00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:00,320 PERSONNEL. 706 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,080 THEY ARE IN BETTER SHAPE FOR 707 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,200 THEIR SIDE OF IT BECAUSE THEY 708 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,800 HAVE CONTINUED TO MAKE THE FULL 709 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,840 CONTRIBUTIONS EACH YEAR, AND SO 710 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,320 THEY CHASTE HAVING TO BE BOGGED 711 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:14,720 DOWN BY THE LIABILITIES OF THE 712 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:15,320 WHOLE SYSTEM. 713 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,400 SO THE COUNTIES HAVE BEEN ASKIN 714 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,040 TO BE ALLOWED TO COME OUT OF IT 715 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:19,110 FOR YEARS. 716 00:20:19,110 --> 00:20:20,110 THEY HAVEN'T SUED. 717 00:20:20,110 --> 00:20:22,680 THEY JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT. 718 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,440 AND, OF COURSE, PART OF THE 719 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:25,760 PROBLEM IS IF YOU LEAVE, DO YOU 720 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,120 TAKE YOUR LIABILITY WITH YOU? 721 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:30,480 AND THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE, 722 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:31,560 INCLUDING SPEAKER STUMBO, WHO 723 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,000 TALKED ABOUT IT THIS WEEK THAT 724 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,960 IF THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE THEI 725 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,720 LIABILITIES WITH THEM, THEN HE' 726 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:38,760 BE FINE WITH THEIR LEAVING. 727 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,240 >> IT'S NOT AS DESTABILIZING TO 728 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:41,100 THE OVERALL SYSTEM. 729 00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:42,240 >> RIGHT. 730 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,600 >> JIM, ON THE WEND OF 731 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,720 LOUISVILLE THERE IS THIS LEE'S 732 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,480 LANDFILL, THE E.P.A. DID SOMMY 733 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:49,100 CLEANUP BUT NOT A COMPLETE 734 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:51,480 CLEANUP SOME YEARS AGO. 735 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,240 WHERE IS IT? 736 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,760 WHAT IS IT? 737 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:54,110 WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE NOW? 738 00:20:54,110 --> 00:20:57,640 >> FOR DECADE STARTING IN THE 739 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,120 MID-40s AND ENDING IN 1975 ALL 740 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:01,110 KINDS OF INDUSTRIAL WASTE, 741 00:21:01,110 --> 00:21:03,760 MUNICIPAL WASTE WAS DUMPED IN 742 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:04,110 THIS LANDFILL RIGHT NEAR THE 743 00:21:04,110 --> 00:21:06,000 NEIGHBORHOOD OF RIVERSIDE 744 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000 GARDENS, AND RIVERSIDE GARDENS, 745 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,760 THERE'S A CHEMICAL PLANT NEXT 746 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,480 DOOR, THERE'S THE SUPER FUND 747 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,100 SITE, THERE'S A COAL FIRED POWE 748 00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:14,240 PLANT RIGHT NEARBY. 749 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,160 I'VE SAID I COULD HAVE AN ENTIR 750 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,840 BUREAU SET UP THERE. 751 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,640 THERE ARE STORIES I COULD COVER 752 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,720 ANYWAY IN 1975 THERE WERE THESE 753 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,880 METHANE GAS LEAKED THROUGH THE 754 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,080 SOIL AND STARTED COMING UP IN 755 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,440 PEOPLE'S HOMES AND THERE WERE 756 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:28,920 FLASH FIRES. 757 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,480 THEY HAD TO MOVE PEOPLE OUT. 758 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,110 TO FAST FORWARD TO WHERE WE ARE 759 00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:34,440 TODAY, IT HAS BEEN 15 YEARS OF 760 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,800 METHANE GAS COLLECTION SYSTEM 761 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,320 THAT HASN'T WORKED WELL, IT'S 762 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,110 SUPPOSED TO COLLECT A BUNCH OF 763 00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:41,680 CHEMICALS AS WELL BUT NOW THEY 764 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,440 FOUND ELEVATED LEVELS 765 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,320 CARCINOGENIC CONNECTION, AND NO 766 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,800 THE E.P.A. IS GOING TO BE 767 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,400 TESTING 50 HOMES, SO THERE ARE 768 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,200 50 FAMILIES THAT HAVE THE 769 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,100 SPECTER OF THE E.P.A. COMING IN 770 00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:52,100 AND TRYING TO SEE WHETHER OR NO 771 00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:53,110 WOULD YOU HAVE BEEN BREATHING 772 00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:55,920 CARBON TETRA CHLORIDE AND OTHER 773 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:56,800 KINDS OF CHEMICALS. 774 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,400 >> HOW INVASIVE IS THAT TESTING 775 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,080 DO YOU KNOW? 776 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,800 >> THEY PUT A CANISTER IN THE 777 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,040 BASEMENT OR IN THE CRAWL SPACE. 778 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,800 IT'S NOT VERY INVASIVE. 779 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,200 >> SO THAT'S TO BE DONE SOON? 780 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,360 >> THIS MONTH. 781 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:08,800 >> SAM, CONGRESSMAN ANDY BARR 782 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,960 SAYS HE'S GETTING A LOT OF CALL 783 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,110 NOW FROM VETERANS IN THIS 784 00:22:12,110 --> 00:22:14,360 NATIONAL SCANDAL THAT WE HAVE 785 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:17,200 GOING ON WHO SAY THEY ARE NOT 786 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,080 GETTING APPROPRIATE MEDICAL 787 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,800 CARE, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GET 788 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,110 APPOINTMENTS WITH SPECIALISTS 789 00:22:20,110 --> 00:22:22,680 AND THIS SORT OF THING. 790 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,560 HE'S EVEN OPENED SEVERAL CASES 791 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,160 AND SAYS THAT SHE WANTS TO HAVE 792 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,160 REPORTS BACK ON HOW THOSE ARE 793 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,040 HANDLED BY THE V.A. 794 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,720 HE ALSO GOES ON TO SAY THERE AR 795 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,100 A LOT OF HARD-WORKING V.A. 796 00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:34,560 EMPLOYEES IN THE STATE OF 797 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,040 KENTUCKY. 798 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,760 BUT THIS BUREAUCRAT MESS IS 799 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,760 OBVIOUSLY HITTING EVERYWHERE, 800 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:40,880 INCLUDING HERE. 801 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,160 >> THAT'S SORT OF ROUTINE. 802 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,160 THIS IS THE TRAGIC OTHER SHOE 803 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,160 THAT INVARIABLY PRO-DROPS AFTER 804 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,640 A NATIONAL STORY BECAUSE WHAT 805 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,100 STARTS IN ARIZONA START TAKING 806 00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:53,560 ON IMPORTANCE, SOMEBODY STARTS 807 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,400 WORRYING ABOUT A PARENT OR 808 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,120 GRANDPARENT THAT'S BEING TAKEN 809 00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:57,110 CARE OF BY THE V.A., THEY START 810 00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:58,920 MAKING CALLS AND LOOKING A 811 00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:59,280 LITTLE CLOSER. 812 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,760 I GUESS IT'S MY HOPE THAT THE 813 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,520 GOOD EMPLOYEES AT V.A. THAT 814 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,760 CONGRESSMAN BARR SPOKE ABOUT 815 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,160 OUTNUMBER THE BAD ONES HERE IN 816 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,120 KENTUCKY AND THAT THEY'VE BEEN 817 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:11,080 ABLE TO MANAGE ENOUGH CASES THA 818 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,040 WE'RE NOT LOSING TO NEGLECT THE 819 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,840 GREATEST GENERATION AND THOSE 820 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:16,680 THAT FOLLOWED. 821 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,110 >> THERE'S AN OVERWHELMING 822 00:23:18,110 --> 00:23:20,440 ASPECT OF THIS. 823 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,040 I HAVE ON BOTH SIDES OF MY 824 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,880 FAMILY, SALAD MANY OF THEM ARE 825 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,120 GONE, BUT I HAD A BUNCH OF 826 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:29,960 UNCLES WHO WERE KOREAN AND WORL 827 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,720 WAR II VETERANS AND I GREW UP 828 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,100 LISTENING TO THEM TALKING ABOUT 829 00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:34,200 GOING TO THE V.A. HOSPITALS. 830 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,360 THEY ALWAYS LIKED THEIR CARE. 831 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:37,840 THEY NEVER WERE HAPPY ABOUT THE 832 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:38,600 WAIT TIMES. 833 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,960 BUT THOSE HAVE GOTTEN 834 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:42,720 EXPONENTIALLY WORSE, AND PART O 835 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,440 THE PROBLEM IS WE'VE COME OUT O 836 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,960 TWO WARS AND THE MEDICAL 837 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,840 TECHNOLOGY, PEOPLE THAT USED TO 838 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,600 NOT COME BACK NEEDING MEDICAL 839 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,360 CARE NOW ARE COMING HOME NEEDIN 840 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:55,240 LOTS AND LOTS OF MEDICAL CARE 841 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,960 FOR A LONG, LONG TIME, AND THE 842 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,100 SYSTEM WAS INADEQUATE TO BEGIN 843 00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:01,520 WITH AND NOW IT'S JUST 844 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,040 ABSOLUTELY OVERWHELMED. 845 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,960 >> AND ON THIS 70th 846 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,360 ANNIVERSARY OF D-DAY WE'RE 847 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:07,120 MINDFUL OF THAT. 848 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:08,840 RETIRED CLARK COUNTY PRINCIPAL, 849 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,600 CHARLIE WILSON WAS BACK IN 850 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,840 NORMANDY OVER THERE AND VISITIN 851 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,000 AND THERE WERE SEVERAL STORIES 852 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,100 THAT HE WAS ON THE NETWORK AND 853 00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:16,960 SO FORTH. 854 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,120 18 YEARS OLD WHEN HE STORMED TH 855 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:19,100 BEACH THERE. 856 00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:22,360 AND HIS TRIP WAS PAID FOR BY TH 857 00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:24,120 FRENCH GOVERNMENT, BY THE WAY 858 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:25,480 BECAUSE HE WAS BROUGHT OVER 859 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,800 THERE TO TELL HIS STORY ABOUT 860 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,200 LIBERATING THAT NATION. 861 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,240 AND HE SAID, HIS QUOTE THAT WAS 862 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,440 ON TELEVISION HOE COULD STILL 863 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,440 KICK BUTT. 864 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,400 I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING. 865 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,100 RONNIE, A PATCHWORK OF PAY FOR 866 00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:40,800 KENTUCKY LAWMAKERS WAS ADDRESSE 867 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,280 SOMEWHAT IN THIS L.R.C. MEETING 868 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,120 THAT WENT THE AT MID-WEEK. 869 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:46,560 >> WELL, IF YOU WILL REMEMBER 870 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,520 AFTER THE SEXUAL HARASSMENT 871 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,400 ALLEGATIONS AND THE RESIGNATION 872 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,800 OF AN L.R.C. DIRECTOR, THE 873 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,680 LEGISLATURE ASKED THE NATIONAL 874 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,080 CONFERENCE OF STATE LEGISLATORS 875 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,760 TO DO -- IT'S LIKE A TRADE 876 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:00,110 GROUP -- TO DO AN AUDIT AND A 877 00:25:00,110 --> 00:25:02,720 REVIEW OF ALL OF THE PERSONNEL 878 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,040 POLICIES AND PAY AND SO FORTH. 879 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,760 WE ASKED SPEAKER STUMBO AND 880 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,320 SENATE PRESIDENT ROBERT STIVERS 881 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,920 THEY SAID THAT THEY THOUGHT IT 882 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:11,440 WAS NEARING COMPLETION. 883 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,720 THEY HAD BEEN IN COMMUNICATION 884 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,200 WITH THE NCSL PEOPLE BUT THAT 885 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,040 DON'T HAVE A FINISHED REPORT. 886 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,880 CONSEQUENTLY, THEY ALSO HAVE NO 887 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,520 MADE A MOVE ON HIRING A PERM TH 888 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,520 NENT DIRECTOR. 889 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,200 AT THIS POINT. 890 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,110 >> U.K.'S COACH CAL GETS A 891 00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:30,100 $52 MILLION SEVEN-YEAR CONTRACT 892 00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:31,480 EXTENSION. 893 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,240 WAYNE DROWNS ALSO GETS AN 894 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,100 EXTENSION TO MOREHEAD STATE BUT 895 00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:36,960 I DON'T THINK IT'S AS LUCRATIVE 896 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,000 >> PROBABLY NOT. 897 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,480 >> DOES THAT MEAN HE'S GOING TO 898 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,000 GO TO THE PRONESS. 899 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,000 >> WELL, WE DON'T KNOW. 900 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,600 >> THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO 901 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:43,100 BELIEVE. 902 00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:45,240 >> I THINK IT'S WHAT'S DESIGNED 903 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,100 IN THAT OFFER, THAT CONTRACT. 904 00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:48,100 TRIPLE CROWN TOMORROW JUST 905 00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:49,280 QUICKLY. 906 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,240 IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN? 907 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,240 YOU DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN? 908 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,720 >> I DON'T LIKE ROOTING AGAINST 909 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,960 THE HORSE BECAUSE I KNOW THE 910 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:55,880 HORSE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING BUT 911 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,440 WHEN THE OWNER COMES HERE AND 912 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,100 BADMOUTHS CHURCHILL, I THINK MY 913 00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:00,920 KENTUCKY RED FLARES UP A LITTLE 914 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:01,040 BIT. 915 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,200 >> TRIPLE CROWN WINNER? 916 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:03,600 I HAVE. 917 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,240 >> NO PREDICTION BUT I HOPE 918 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,120 THERE IS ONE. 919 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:05,880 IT'S BEEN TOO LONG. 920 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,200 >> I HONESTLY THINK THERE WILL 921 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:07,520 BE. 922 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,000 >> THERE WE GO. 923 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,480 THANKS FOR BEING HERE OUR PANEL 924 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,160 APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE 925 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,320 TUNE IN MONDAY AT 8:00/7:00 926 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,560 CENTRAL FOR "KENTUCKY TONIGHT" 927 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,440 WHEN BILL GOODMAN AND GUESTS 928 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,800 WILL DISCUSS U.S. FOREIGN POLIC 929 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,200 AND THERE'S A WHOLE LOT GOING O 930 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:20,110 THERE. 931 00:26:20,110 --> 00:26:22,760 THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR 932 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:23,560 "COMMENT." 933 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,480 HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND AND AND A 934 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,040 SUPER WEEK AHEAD.