1 00:00:13,700 --> 00:00:18,133 COURT UNANIMOUSLY STRIKES DOWN 2 00:00:15,500 --> 00:00:19,700 THE STATE SCHOOL CHOICE LAW. 3 00:00:18,133 --> 00:00:21,300 WITH TAX CHANGES COMING, 4 00:00:19,700 --> 00:00:23,533 KENTUCKY REPORTS MORE STRONG 5 00:00:21,300 --> 00:00:25,433 REVENUE FLOWING INTO FRANKFORT. 6 00:00:23,533 --> 00:00:28,733 WITH ABOUT A DOZEN REPUBLICAN 7 00:00:25,433 --> 00:00:30,633 CANDIDATES FOR GOVERNOR IN THE 8 00:00:28,733 --> 00:00:34,200 RACE ALREADY, FORMER GOVERNOR 9 00:00:30,633 --> 00:00:34,966 MATT BEVIN'S NAME KEEPS POPPING 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,133 FLU HITS STATE HARD AND SOME NE 11 00:00:34,966 --> 00:00:38,366 POLLING EMERGES ON ATTITUDES 12 00:00:36,133 --> 00:00:40,833 ABOUT THE COVID PANDEMIC AND VA 13 00:00:38,366 --> 00:00:47,000 HEADING INTO THE WEEK BEFORE 14 00:00:40,833 --> 00:00:47,000 CHRISTMAS, "COMMENT" IS NEXT ON. 15 00:00:47,233 --> 00:00:59,133 GOOD EVENING. I'M BILL BRYANT, 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,133 AND WE WELCOME YOU TO "COMMENT 17 00:00:59,133 --> 00:01:02,500 ON KENTUCKY," A LOOK BACK AT AND 18 00:01:01,133 --> 00:01:04,766 SOME ANALYSIS OF THE WEEK'S NEWS 19 00:01:02,500 --> 00:01:06,633 IN THE COMMONWEALTH. AND THE 20 00:01:04,766 --> 00:01:09,833 GUESTS ON OUR PANEL OF WORKING 21 00:01:06,633 --> 00:01:11,100 KENTUCKY JOURNALISTS TONIGHT AR 22 00:01:09,833 --> 00:01:14,200 TESSA DUVAL, FRANKFORT BUREAU 23 00:01:11,100 --> 00:01:16,366 CHIEF FOR THE LEXINGTON HERALD- 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,700 SARAH LADD, HEALTH AND POLICY 25 00:01:16,366 --> 00:01:20,066 REPORTER FOR KENTUCKY LANTERN. 26 00:01:18,700 --> 00:01:22,066 AND JOE SONKA, FRANKFORT BUREAU 27 00:01:20,066 --> 00:01:24,266 CHIEF FOR THE COURIER-JOURNAL. 28 00:01:22,066 --> 00:01:27,633 ALSO TONIGHT, CONGRESSMAN JOHN 29 00:01:24,266 --> 00:01:29,466 YARMUTH SAYS GOODBYE IN WASHING 30 00:01:27,633 --> 00:01:30,866 AND SOME COLLEGE STUDENT 31 00:01:29,466 --> 00:01:33,733 JOURNALISTS ROOT OUT THE COSTS 32 00:01:30,866 --> 00:01:34,633 OF BRINGING A PERSONALITY TO 33 00:01:33,733 --> 00:01:36,200 THEIR CAMPUS. 34 00:01:34,633 --> 00:01:37,700 BUT FIRST, THE KENTUCKY SUPREME 35 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,333 COURT RULES THE STATE SCHOOL 36 00:01:37,700 --> 00:01:42,266 CHOICE LAW THAT WAS PASSED LAST 37 00:01:39,333 --> 00:01:44,333 YEAR IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. 38 00:01:42,266 --> 00:01:46,100 JOE, THE EDUCATION OPPORTUNITY 39 00:01:44,333 --> 00:01:48,600 ACCOUNT ACT NARROWLY PASSED THE 40 00:01:46,100 --> 00:01:50,900 LEGISLATURE, AND NOW THE STATE 41 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,333 SUPREME COURT UNANIMOUSLY STRUCK 42 00:01:50,900 --> 00:01:52,000 IT DOWN. 43 00:01:51,333 --> 00:01:53,533 >> Joe: ALL SEVEN SAID THAT 44 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,500 THERE WAS A SECTION OF THE 45 00:01:53,533 --> 00:01:57,466 CONSTITUTION THAT CLEARLY 46 00:01:55,500 --> 00:01:59,566 PROHIBITS AND STATE FROM RAISING 47 00:01:57,466 --> 00:02:02,266 FUNDS FOR NON-PUBLIC SCHOOLS 48 00:01:59,566 --> 00:02:03,700 AND, OF COURSE, THIS BILL HAD 49 00:02:02,266 --> 00:02:05,900 DOLLAR-FOR-DOLLAR TAX CREDITS OF 50 00:02:03,700 --> 00:02:07,633 UP TO $25 MILLION A YEAR TO GO 51 00:02:05,900 --> 00:02:10,266 TO THOSE EDUCATION OPPORTUNITY 52 00:02:07,633 --> 00:02:12,333 COUNT TO HELP -- TO HELP KIDS 53 00:02:10,266 --> 00:02:13,600 WITH THEIR SCHOOL COSTS AND 54 00:02:12,333 --> 00:02:14,266 TUITION, INCLUDING PRIVATE 55 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,900 SCHOOLS. 56 00:02:14,266 --> 00:02:17,300 SO THIS IS KIND OF BEEN HANGING 57 00:02:15,900 --> 00:02:18,833 IN THE BALANCE FOR TWO YEARS 58 00:02:17,300 --> 00:02:21,600 SINCE THE LEGISLATURE PASSED IN 59 00:02:18,833 --> 00:02:22,666 IT 2021, SO NOW A LOT OF THE 60 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,866 SCHOOL CHOICE VICTORIOUS KIND OF 61 00:02:22,666 --> 00:02:26,300 BACK TO SQUARE ONE ON WHAT 62 00:02:23,866 --> 00:02:26,600 THEY'RE GOING TO DO ON THIS 63 00:02:26,300 --> 00:02:27,400 ISSUE. 64 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,866 >> Tessa: ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE 65 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,766 SAW THE SUPREME COURT SAY WAS 66 00:02:29,866 --> 00:02:33,400 IT'S IMMATERIAL IN YOU'RE CALL 67 00:02:31,766 --> 00:02:33,833 THIS A TAX CREDIT OR AN 68 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,366 APPROPRIATION. 69 00:02:33,833 --> 00:02:37,666 EITHER WAY, THE MONEY IS GOING 70 00:02:35,366 --> 00:02:38,733 DIRECTLY TO THESE PRIVATE 71 00:02:37,666 --> 00:02:39,100 SCHOOLS IN THESE INSTANCES P 72 00:02:38,733 --> 00:02:40,833 INSTANCES. 73 00:02:39,100 --> 00:02:41,500 SO THE WORKAROUND THE 74 00:02:40,833 --> 00:02:43,600 LEGISLATURE THOUGHT IT WOULD 75 00:02:41,500 --> 00:02:43,966 COME UP THE COURT SOUNDLY 76 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,233 REJECTED. 77 00:02:43,966 --> 00:02:46,900 WE'RE SEEING THAT DEMOCRATS ARE 78 00:02:45,233 --> 00:02:48,033 PRAISING THIS RESULT. 79 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:51,833 THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY PUT OUT A 80 00:02:48,033 --> 00:02:53,466 STATEMENT SAYING THAT THE AG WAS 81 00:02:51,833 --> 00:02:54,866 SLAPPED DOWN IN HIS HANDLING OF 82 00:02:53,466 --> 00:02:56,900 THIS AND GOVERNOR BESHEAR, OF 83 00:02:54,866 --> 00:02:58,266 COURSE, HAS ALSO SPOKEN OUT 84 00:02:56,900 --> 00:02:59,933 FAVORABLY ABOUT THIS RULING AND, 85 00:02:58,266 --> 00:03:02,100 OF COURSE, WE HAVE SEEN THAT 86 00:02:59,933 --> 00:03:04,500 HE'S TALKED A LOT ABOUT TEACHER 87 00:03:02,100 --> 00:03:06,166 RAISES AND PRE-K AND IS SORT OF 88 00:03:04,500 --> 00:03:07,566 USING THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO 89 00:03:06,166 --> 00:03:10,433 SAY LET'S INVEST IN THE PUBLIC 90 00:03:07,566 --> 00:03:11,833 SCHOOLS THAT WE HAVE INSTEAD OF 91 00:03:10,433 --> 00:03:13,066 FOCUSING ON PRIVATE CHARTERS, 92 00:03:11,833 --> 00:03:14,666 THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 93 00:03:13,066 --> 00:03:16,566 >> Bill: AND SO PROCEED 94 00:03:14,666 --> 00:03:18,066 OPPONENTS SAY THE COURT GET OUT 95 00:03:16,566 --> 00:03:20,300 WRONG AND SAY THE CONSTITUTION 96 00:03:18,066 --> 00:03:21,366 DOES NO RULE OUT OPTIONS FOR 97 00:03:20,300 --> 00:03:23,266 STUDENTS, BUT GOVERNOR BESHEAR 98 00:03:21,366 --> 00:03:24,400 WHOSE VETO OF THE MEASURE WAS 99 00:03:23,266 --> 00:03:27,500 OVERRIDDEN, SAYS THE COURTED'S 100 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:29,700 RULING IS CORRECT IN THIS CASE. 101 00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:31,700 >> BUBBLE DOLLARS CAN ONLY GO TO 102 00:03:29,700 --> 00:03:32,500 PUBLIC SCHOOLS HERE IN. 103 00:03:31,700 --> 00:03:33,633 PUBLIC DOLLARS. 104 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:36,933 IT IS THAT SIMPLE. 105 00:03:33,633 --> 00:03:40,833 AND IT WOULD TAKE A VOTE OF THE 106 00:03:36,933 --> 00:03:41,566 PEOPLE, A STATEWIDE BALLOT 107 00:03:40,833 --> 00:03:44,266 QUESTION OR CONSTITUTIONAL 108 00:03:41,566 --> 00:03:46,866 AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THAT. 109 00:03:44,266 --> 00:03:48,166 SO THIS ARGUMENT, THIS ISSUE 110 00:03:46,866 --> 00:03:49,166 OUGHT TO BE DONE. 111 00:03:48,166 --> 00:03:51,133 RIGHT? 112 00:03:49,166 --> 00:03:53,366 WE CAN'T SEND PUBLIC DOLLARS 113 00:03:51,133 --> 00:03:55,400 DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY TO 114 00:03:53,366 --> 00:03:57,233 PRIVATE OR CHARTER SCHOOLS, NOR 115 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,000 SHOULD ANYONE TRY. 116 00:03:57,233 --> 00:04:02,166 THE ANSWER, LET'S WORK TOGETHER 117 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,500 TO IMPROVE OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL 118 00:04:02,166 --> 00:04:03,233 SYSTEMS. 119 00:04:02,500 --> 00:04:04,800 >> Bill: THE GOVERNOR SAYS THE 120 00:04:03,233 --> 00:04:06,100 ISSUE SHOULD BE DONE. 121 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,666 JOE, YOU GET NO SENSE THAT THAT 122 00:04:06,100 --> 00:04:10,066 IS THE CASE, RIGHT? 123 00:04:08,666 --> 00:04:11,500 >> Joe: YEAH, WELL, IT'S 124 00:04:10,066 --> 00:04:12,233 INTERESTING ABOUT THE RULING 125 00:04:11,500 --> 00:04:14,533 STATED EXPLICTY IF YOU WANT TO 126 00:04:12,233 --> 00:04:15,666 DO THIS YOU HAVE TO PUT IT ON 127 00:04:14,533 --> 00:04:16,633 THE BALLOT, YOU HAVE TO CHANGE 128 00:04:15,666 --> 00:04:17,900 THE CONSTITUTION. 129 00:04:16,633 --> 00:04:20,900 EVERY REPUBLICAN I'VE TALKED TO 130 00:04:17,900 --> 00:04:21,600 IN THE PAST MONTH, EVERY 131 00:04:20,900 --> 00:04:23,633 REPUBLICAN LEGISLATORS IN THE 132 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,600 PAST MONTH IS GUN SHY TO PUT ANY 133 00:04:23,633 --> 00:04:25,633 TYPE OF CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT 134 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,700 ON THE BALLOT THIS YEAR 135 00:04:25,633 --> 00:04:30,133 CONSIDERING THAT THEY GOT 136 00:04:27,700 --> 00:04:31,300 SMACKED DOWN ON THEIR TWO 137 00:04:30,133 --> 00:04:33,066 CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS IN 138 00:04:31,300 --> 00:04:35,600 NOVEMBER, SO EVEN IF THEY DID 139 00:04:33,066 --> 00:04:37,333 PASS SOMETHING THIS YEAR, VOTERS 140 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,266 WOULDN'T VOTE ON IT UNTIL THE 141 00:04:37,333 --> 00:04:40,866 END OF 20 II SO IT WOULD BE A 142 00:04:39,266 --> 00:04:42,933 LONG WAY SO I REALLY DOUBT THAT 143 00:04:40,866 --> 00:04:44,466 WE SEE THIS PASS OR REALLY ANY 144 00:04:42,933 --> 00:04:45,900 OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS 145 00:04:44,466 --> 00:04:47,733 PROBABLY THIS SESSION. 146 00:04:45,900 --> 00:04:49,833 SO IT'S KIND OF BACK TO THE 147 00:04:47,733 --> 00:04:52,533 DRAWING BOARD IN A LOT OF WAYS. 148 00:04:49,833 --> 00:04:53,566 >> Jonathan: AND IT. 149 00:04:52,533 --> 00:04:54,566 >> Bill: SCHMIT WAS SUCH A 150 00:04:53,566 --> 00:04:57,033 CLOSE VOTE. 151 00:04:54,566 --> 00:04:57,333 ONE VOTE THAT THIS GOT IN THE 152 00:04:57,033 --> 00:04:59,066 HOUSE. 153 00:04:57,333 --> 00:05:00,366 >> Joe: THE ISSUE WAS GETTING 154 00:04:59,066 --> 00:05:00,700 ALL OF THE EUROPE REPUBLICANS 155 00:05:00,366 --> 00:05:02,633 ONBOARD. 156 00:05:00,700 --> 00:05:03,233 THEY THE TO SWEETEN THE POT ON 157 00:05:02,633 --> 00:05:05,300 THE BILL. 158 00:05:03,233 --> 00:05:06,200 EVERY TIME HER WERE SCHEDULE 159 00:05:05,300 --> 00:05:07,700 COMMITTEE VOTES AND REALIZED 160 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,266 THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE VOTES WITH 161 00:05:07,700 --> 00:05:11,033 EVENTUALLY THEY ADDED FULL 162 00:05:09,266 --> 00:05:12,133 FUNDING OF FULL-DAY KINDERGARTEN 163 00:05:11,033 --> 00:05:14,166 IN ORDER TO GET VOTES. 164 00:05:12,133 --> 00:05:14,866 THEY LIMITED IT TO SORT OF HIGH 165 00:05:14,166 --> 00:05:17,233 POPULATION COUNTIES. 166 00:05:14,866 --> 00:05:18,533 SO THEY DID THAT ENOUGH TO JUST 167 00:05:17,233 --> 00:05:23,066 GOT THE BARE MAJORITY BOTH TO 168 00:05:18,533 --> 00:05:23,300 PASS IT AND TO OVERRIDE BESHEAR 169 00:05:23,066 --> 00:05:24,000 -- 170 00:05:23,300 --> 00:05:29,933 >> Bill: LET'S TULANE PLAN IS 171 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:33,200 WHY THAT'S THE CASE, WHY RURAL 172 00:05:29,933 --> 00:05:34,333 LAWMAKERS HAVE LESS. 173 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,866 >> Joe: PUBLIC SCHOOLS SUCH 174 00:05:34,333 --> 00:05:37,166 VITAL PARTS OF RURAL ECONOMICS 175 00:05:35,866 --> 00:05:38,466 FOR THE TEACHERS AND A LARGE 176 00:05:37,166 --> 00:05:39,566 PART OF THE ECONOMY, AND THANK 177 00:05:38,466 --> 00:05:40,733 YOU THE ARGUMENT IS ANYTHING 178 00:05:39,566 --> 00:05:42,733 THAT UNDERMINES PUBLIC SCHOOLS 179 00:05:40,733 --> 00:05:43,100 IS GOING TO UNDERMINE YOUR 180 00:05:42,733 --> 00:05:44,166 COMMUNITY. 181 00:05:43,100 --> 00:05:46,133 I THINK THAT HAS A LOT OF WEIGHT 182 00:05:44,166 --> 00:05:47,533 IN RURAL AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE 183 00:05:46,133 --> 00:05:49,800 REPUBLICAN LEGISLATOR WHO ARE ON 184 00:05:47,533 --> 00:05:52,366 A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES WOULD BE 185 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,000 EK 3MLY CONSERVATIVE BUT THIS IS 186 00:05:52,366 --> 00:05:55,766 ONE WHERE THEY -- THEY PAUSE AND 187 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,600 REALLY LOOK AT THE ISSUE. 188 00:05:55,766 --> 00:05:58,500 >> Bill: TESSA, DO YOU AGREE 189 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,066 THIS IS NOT THE END OF THE LINE 190 00:05:58,500 --> 00:06:00,800 ON THIS ISSUE? 191 00:06:00,066 --> 00:06:01,866 >> Tessa: I MEAN, WE HAVE 192 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,266 ALREADY HEARD FROM MEMBERS OF 193 00:06:01,866 --> 00:06:04,566 THE GOP THAT THEY'RE DID NOT 194 00:06:04,266 --> 00:06:06,666 DONE. 195 00:06:04,566 --> 00:06:07,900 WHAT THE NEXT STEP LOOKS LIKE, I 196 00:06:06,666 --> 00:06:10,633 DON'TATELY THINK WE NECESSARILY 197 00:06:07,900 --> 00:06:11,733 KNOW BUT THEY'RE NO GIVING UP 198 00:06:10,633 --> 00:06:13,633 SCHOOL CHOICE. 199 00:06:11,733 --> 00:06:14,833 IT'S HUGE PRIORITY FOR 200 00:06:13,633 --> 00:06:16,966 REPUBLICANS IN KENTUCKY BUT 201 00:06:14,833 --> 00:06:17,266 ELSEWHERE AROUND THE COUNTRY AS 202 00:06:16,966 --> 00:06:18,300 WELL. 203 00:06:17,266 --> 00:06:19,766 >> Bill: WE'LL WATCH AND SEE. 204 00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:22,300 AS FAMILY AND FRIENDS GATHERING 205 00:06:19,766 --> 00:06:24,700 FOR THE HOLIDAYS WE ARE, OF 206 00:06:22,300 --> 00:06:26,433 COURSE, WATCHING NEWS ABOUT FLU, 207 00:06:24,700 --> 00:06:27,100 COVID, RSV. 208 00:06:26,433 --> 00:06:28,333 DOCTORS HAVE BEEN STRUG FOR 209 00:06:27,100 --> 00:06:29,400 EXAMPLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE 210 00:06:28,333 --> 00:06:31,133 NUMBER OF PATIENTS WHO ARE 211 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,333 DEALING WITH VARIOUS RESPIRATORY 212 00:06:31,133 --> 00:06:33,933 ISSUES AND, SARAH, FIRST OF ALL, 213 00:06:33,333 --> 00:06:34,800 WELCOME. 214 00:06:33,933 --> 00:06:35,800 GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE FOR THE 215 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,400 FIRST TIME. 216 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:40,400 THERE IS REPORTING THAT MANY 217 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,800 KENTUCKY HOSPITALS ARE NEAR 218 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,333 THEIR CAPACITY. 219 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,300 SOME ARE FULL, AND MORE FULL NOW 220 00:06:44,333 --> 00:06:47,500 THAN AT ANY POINT DURING THE 221 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:48,933 PANDEMIC, SO IT'S A COMBINATION 222 00:06:47,500 --> 00:06:51,300 OF THINGS GOING AROUND AND IT 223 00:06:48,933 --> 00:06:51,900 SPELLS A LOT OF TROUBLE. 224 00:06:51,300 --> 00:06:52,900 >> Sarah: THAT'S RIGHT. 225 00:06:51,900 --> 00:06:55,400 SO IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS 226 00:06:52,900 --> 00:06:56,700 OF COVID, PARTICULARLY IN 2020, 227 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,566 WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A FLU 228 00:06:56,700 --> 00:07:00,233 SEASON, AND THAT WAS THANKS IN 229 00:06:58,566 --> 00:07:01,433 PART TO PEOPLE WERE STAYING AT 230 00:07:00,233 --> 00:07:02,633 HOME, THEY WEREN'T HOSTING 231 00:07:01,433 --> 00:07:03,833 HOLIDAY PARTIES, THEY WEREN'T 232 00:07:02,633 --> 00:07:06,033 REALLY GOING TO THEM, THEY 233 00:07:03,833 --> 00:07:06,366 WEREN'T TRAVELING, THEY WERE 234 00:07:06,033 --> 00:07:08,200 MASKING. 235 00:07:06,366 --> 00:07:10,733 WE HAVE FAR MORE SOCIALIZATION 236 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,833 NOW AND FAR LESS MASKING, AND SO 237 00:07:10,733 --> 00:07:13,800 WE'RE SEEING -- WE'RE SEEING 238 00:07:11,833 --> 00:07:15,900 MORE FLU IN THE COMMUNITY. 239 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:18,633 IF YOU LOOK AT THE CDC MAP OF 240 00:07:15,900 --> 00:07:21,466 THE COUNTRY AND THEY RANK STATES 241 00:07:18,633 --> 00:07:21,800 BY THE LEVELS, GREEN IS THE 242 00:07:21,466 --> 00:07:22,900 SAFEST. 243 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,400 PURPLE IS VERY HIGH. 244 00:07:22,900 --> 00:07:26,066 KENTUCKY IS PURPLE AND IT'S ONE 245 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,033 OF ONLY A HANDFUL OF STATES THAT 246 00:07:26,066 --> 00:07:28,333 ARE IN THAT HOO VERY HIGH 247 00:07:28,033 --> 00:07:29,566 LEVEL. 248 00:07:28,333 --> 00:07:30,600 IN THE WEEK ENDING 249 00:07:29,566 --> 00:07:31,100 DECEMBER 10th WE HAD ALMOST 250 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,800 30,000 CASES. 251 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:35,466 SO WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF FLU. 252 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,200 AND A COUPLE WEEKS OUT FROM 253 00:07:35,466 --> 00:07:39,300 THANKSGIVING WE'RE ALSO SEEING 254 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,833 AN INCREASE IN COVID, DEATHS AND 255 00:07:39,300 --> 00:07:41,633 HOSPITALIZATIONS THERE, AND IN 256 00:07:40,833 --> 00:07:44,233 THE POSITIVITY RATE. 257 00:07:41,633 --> 00:07:47,366 AND WE'RE ALSO SEEING RSV. 258 00:07:44,233 --> 00:07:48,066 SO YOU'VE KIND OF GOT THESE 259 00:07:47,366 --> 00:07:49,366 THREE I WANT H. RESPIRATORY 260 00:07:48,066 --> 00:07:51,700 ISSUES KITTING KENTUCKIANS HARD 261 00:07:49,366 --> 00:07:52,700 AS WE LOOK TOWARD CHRISTMAS, AND 262 00:07:51,700 --> 00:07:55,000 THE PUBLIC HEALTH ADVICE THAT I 263 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:55,400 HEAR OVER AND OVER AND GET 264 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,300 VACCINATED. 265 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,300 >> Bill: AND WE HAVE ALL KIND 266 00:07:56,300 --> 00:08:00,366 OF EVIDENCE THAT THE PUBLIC IS 267 00:07:58,300 --> 00:08:00,800 JUST TIRED OF HEARING THE 268 00:08:00,366 --> 00:08:03,100 MESSAGE. 269 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,400 THEY'RE TIRED OF TAKING THE 270 00:08:03,100 --> 00:08:05,933 PRECAUTIONS. 271 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,733 THE FOUNDATION FOR A HEALED 272 00:08:05,933 --> 00:08:09,600 KENTUCKY PROVIDE SOME INSIDES ON 273 00:08:07,733 --> 00:08:12,566 THAT AS TO WHY PEOPLE ARE REALLY 274 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:15,200 AT THIS POINT HITTING THE WALL 275 00:08:12,566 --> 00:08:17,833 WITH COVID AND OTHER ILLNESS 276 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,500 FATIGUE WEEK RIGHT? 277 00:08:17,833 --> 00:08:19,666 >> Sarah: YEAH, I'VE HEARD 278 00:08:18,500 --> 00:08:21,200 REPEATEDLY FROM PEOPLE AND FROM 279 00:08:19,666 --> 00:08:23,100 DOCTORS, PEOPLE ARE TIRED AND 280 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,266 THEN DOCTORS SAY THAT THEIR 281 00:08:23,100 --> 00:08:26,566 PATIENTS ARE TIRED OF AND AND 282 00:08:25,266 --> 00:08:28,300 IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE A 283 00:08:26,566 --> 00:08:30,200 WHILE NOW. 284 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:32,366 THE FOUNDATION FOR A HEALTHY 285 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,266 KENTUCKY DID PUT OUT A POLL. 286 00:08:32,366 --> 00:08:36,466 RESEARCHERS WITH THE INSTITUTE 287 00:08:34,266 --> 00:08:37,400 FOR POLS RESEARCH 234 CINCINNATI 288 00:08:36,466 --> 00:08:39,066 CALLED 855 KENTUCKY ADULTS 289 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,000 BETWEEN CAN YO 29th AND 290 00:08:39,066 --> 00:08:43,200 DECEMBER 4th AND ASKED THEM 291 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,566 ABOUT THE PANDEMIC AND ABOUT 292 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,433 VACCINES. 293 00:08:43,566 --> 00:08:46,366 NOW, MORE THAN EIGHT IN TEN OF 294 00:08:44,433 --> 00:08:48,200 THE PEOPLE THEY TALKED TO SAID 295 00:08:46,366 --> 00:08:51,600 THAT COVID WAS NOT VERY LIKELY 296 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:55,266 TO IMPACT THEIR HOLIDAY PLANS. 297 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:57,766 WOMEN AND PEOPLE WHO WERE FULLY 298 00:08:55,266 --> 00:08:59,433 VACCINATED AND BOOSTED WERE MORE 299 00:08:57,766 --> 00:09:00,733 LIKELY TO SAY COVID WOULD IMPACT 300 00:08:59,433 --> 00:09:02,733 THEIR PLANS. 301 00:09:00,733 --> 00:09:05,266 RESEARCHERS ALSO FOUND IN THIS 302 00:09:02,733 --> 00:09:05,900 SURVEY THAT MOST -- MOST 303 00:09:05,266 --> 00:09:07,333 KENTUCKIANS FELT THAT THE 304 00:09:05,900 --> 00:09:08,433 PANDEMIC WAS OVER AS IT RELATES 305 00:09:07,333 --> 00:09:10,066 TO THEIR PERSONAL LIFE, AND SO 306 00:09:08,433 --> 00:09:12,266 THAT WAS THE KIND MINDSET THAT 307 00:09:10,066 --> 00:09:12,666 THEY WERE GOING INTO THE HOLIDAY 308 00:09:12,266 --> 00:09:14,033 SEASON WITH. 309 00:09:12,666 --> 00:09:15,766 >> Bill: IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE 310 00:09:14,033 --> 00:09:17,500 FOR PUBLIC HEALTH ALL ALONG. 311 00:09:15,766 --> 00:09:20,666 BUT WE ARE AT THIS POINT NOW 312 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:21,700 AGAIN WITH THE FATIGUE WHERE THE 313 00:09:20,666 --> 00:09:25,733 MESSAGING MAY BE MORE IMPORTANT 314 00:09:21,700 --> 00:09:26,033 THAN EVER. 315 00:09:25,733 --> 00:09:26,733 RIGHT? 316 00:09:26,033 --> 00:09:27,400 >> Sarah: MESSAGING HAS BEEN 317 00:09:26,733 --> 00:09:27,766 IMPORTANT THROUGHOUT THE 318 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,366 PANDEMIC. 319 00:09:27,766 --> 00:09:31,000 I KNOW PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENTS 320 00:09:29,366 --> 00:09:32,466 HAVE REALLY PUSHED VACCINATION 321 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,233 AND EDUCATED PEOPLE AND 322 00:09:32,466 --> 00:09:34,833 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL 323 00:09:33,233 --> 00:09:36,800 HAVE GONE INTO THE COMMUNITY AND 324 00:09:34,833 --> 00:09:37,966 TRIED TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ABOUT 325 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,300 THAT. 326 00:09:37,966 --> 00:09:42,166 WE HEAR, I HEAR FROM PUBLIC 327 00:09:40,300 --> 00:09:44,233 HEALTH EXPERTS THAT IT'S VERY 328 00:09:42,166 --> 00:09:46,333 IMPORTANT THAT THE PUBLIC SEE 329 00:09:44,233 --> 00:09:47,633 THEMSELVES REPRESENTED IN THEIR 330 00:09:46,333 --> 00:09:49,466 MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS SO THERE'S 331 00:09:47,633 --> 00:09:51,333 A PUSH FOR DIVERSITY THERE AS 332 00:09:49,466 --> 00:09:55,100 WELL, BUT ALSO JUST A PUSH FOR 333 00:09:51,333 --> 00:09:56,900 PATIENTS AND TO EDUCATE WITHOUT 334 00:09:55,100 --> 00:10:00,033 BEING DEFENSIVE OR FRUSTRATED. 335 00:09:56,900 --> 00:10:01,566 >> Bill: LET'S TALK POLITICS. 336 00:10:00,033 --> 00:10:03,166 IN CAMPAIGN 2023 THE FILING 337 00:10:01,566 --> 00:10:05,366 DEADLINE FOR STATEWIDE OFFICE IN 338 00:10:03,166 --> 00:10:07,066 KENTUCKY IS COMING IN JUST OVER 339 00:10:05,366 --> 00:10:08,466 2 WEEKS AND WE'RE HEARING A LOT 340 00:10:07,066 --> 00:10:10,100 OF RUMBLES OUT THERE. 341 00:10:08,466 --> 00:10:11,666 JOE, THE FORMER GOVERNOR MATT 342 00:10:10,100 --> 00:10:14,233 BEVIN GOING TO JUMP INTO THAT 343 00:10:11,666 --> 00:10:14,900 CROWDED REPUBLICAN PRIMARY? 344 00:10:14,233 --> 00:10:17,033 >> Joe: I'VE BEEN HEARING A 345 00:10:14,900 --> 00:10:18,666 LOT OF CHATTER GOING BACK TO 346 00:10:17,033 --> 00:10:19,566 LAST YEAR THAT BEVIN WAS 347 00:10:18,666 --> 00:10:21,166 SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING. 348 00:10:19,566 --> 00:10:24,166 IT THIS SUMMER I TALKED TO STATE 349 00:10:21,166 --> 00:10:25,133 AUDITOR MIKE HARMON WHO IS ALSO 350 00:10:24,166 --> 00:10:25,533 RUNNING TO GOVERNOR AS A 351 00:10:25,133 --> 00:10:27,000 REPUBLICAN. 352 00:10:25,533 --> 00:10:28,333 HE SAID HE HAD TALKED TO MATT 353 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,600 BEVIN AND HE THOUGHT THIS THERE 354 00:10:28,333 --> 00:10:33,366 WAS A 50/50ANS CHANCE HE WAS 355 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,766 GOING TO GET. 356 00:10:33,366 --> 00:10:36,266 THIS WOOKIEE UPPED THE ODDS TO 357 00:10:34,766 --> 00:10:37,433 95% SAYING HE HEARD THAT MATT 358 00:10:36,266 --> 00:10:38,833 BEVIN IS POLLING. 359 00:10:37,433 --> 00:10:40,600 SO THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING 360 00:10:38,833 --> 00:10:41,600 BECAUSE IF YOU TALK TO 361 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:45,400 REPUBLICANS, THEY FEEL CONFIDENT 362 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,833 THAT THEY CAN WIN A GENERAL 363 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,466 ELECTION AGAINST ANDY BESHEAR IF 364 00:10:46,833 --> 00:10:49,800 IT'S CRAFT OR A CAMERON OR A 365 00:10:49,466 --> 00:10:50,766 QUARLES. 366 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,233 THEY FEEL VERY CONFIDENT. 367 00:10:50,766 --> 00:10:53,933 WHAT THEY DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT 368 00:10:52,233 --> 00:10:55,466 ABOUT AND THEY'RE KIND OF 369 00:10:53,933 --> 00:10:57,966 TERRIFIED ABOUT IS 23 MATT BEVIN 370 00:10:55,466 --> 00:10:58,900 DOES GET IN THIS RACE, YOU HAVE 371 00:10:57,966 --> 00:11:01,066 12 REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES. 372 00:10:58,900 --> 00:11:02,900 HE COMES OUT WITH 25% OF THE 373 00:11:01,066 --> 00:11:04,233 VOTE BASS A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW 374 00:11:02,900 --> 00:11:06,300 WHO HE IS AND THEN HE IS THE 375 00:11:04,233 --> 00:11:07,333 NOMINEE, AND THAT'S THE TYPE OF 376 00:11:06,300 --> 00:11:08,900 SCENARIO THAT ANDY BESHEAR WOULD 377 00:11:07,333 --> 00:11:09,766 LOVE AND IT WOULD KEEP 378 00:11:08,900 --> 00:11:12,366 REPUBLICANS UP AT NIGHT. 379 00:11:09,766 --> 00:11:13,600 SO THE QUESTION IS WHETHER 380 00:11:12,366 --> 00:11:15,366 REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO TRY TO 381 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,566 PUSH A BILL IN THE SESSION THAT 382 00:11:15,366 --> 00:11:17,833 GOES BACK TO THE RUNOFF THAT WE 383 00:11:16,566 --> 00:11:20,266 USED TO HAVE FOR GOVERNOR WHERE 384 00:11:17,833 --> 00:11:22,666 YOU HAD TO GET SOMETHING LIKE 385 00:11:20,266 --> 00:11:24,300 40% IN ORDER TO TO GO ONTO THE 386 00:11:22,666 --> 00:11:24,833 GENERAL OR ELSE THERE WAS A 387 00:11:24,300 --> 00:11:26,733 RUNOFF. 388 00:11:24,833 --> 00:11:29,900 THAT GETS INTO ALL TYPES OF 389 00:11:26,733 --> 00:11:31,633 DICEY ISSUES BECAUSE THE FILING 390 00:11:29,900 --> 00:11:34,933 DEADLINE IS JANUARY 3rd, AND 391 00:11:31,633 --> 00:11:36,666 IF THEY WANTED TO PASS A BREAK 392 00:11:34,933 --> 00:11:38,400 GLASS IN CASE OF BEVIN BILL, 393 00:11:36,666 --> 00:11:39,833 THEY COULDN'T DO THAT UNTIL 394 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,766 FEBRUARY, SO YOU'RE GETTING INTO 395 00:11:39,833 --> 00:11:43,466 LEGAL ISSUES ABOUT WHETHER YOU 396 00:11:41,766 --> 00:11:44,733 COULD GO THAT LENGTH AND PUSH 397 00:11:43,466 --> 00:11:45,766 BACK THE FILING DEADLINE. 398 00:11:44,733 --> 00:11:46,766 >> Bill: BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE 399 00:11:45,766 --> 00:11:49,466 CHANGED THE RULES FOR AN 400 00:11:46,766 --> 00:11:50,500 ELECTION THAT PEOPLE HAVE 401 00:11:49,466 --> 00:11:51,200 ALREADY FILED FOR. 402 00:11:50,500 --> 00:11:52,300 >> Joe: UWE CHAINED THE RULES 403 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,933 AND THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE RIPE 404 00:11:52,300 --> 00:11:57,000 FOR A LAWSUIT, AND THINK OF A 405 00:11:53,933 --> 00:11:57,333 FEW PEOPLE WHO MIGHT FILE SUCH A 406 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,700 LAWSUIT. 407 00:11:57,333 --> 00:11:59,966 >> Bill: TESSA, DO YOU 408 00:11:58,700 --> 00:12:01,700 ANTICIPATE THE CANDIDATES WILL 409 00:11:59,966 --> 00:12:02,466 KICK UP THEIR EFFORTS AFTER IN 410 00:12:01,700 --> 00:12:04,333 THE COMING WEEKS AFTER THE FIRST 411 00:12:02,466 --> 00:12:05,900 OF THE YEAR? 412 00:12:04,333 --> 00:12:08,200 CLEARLY, THE ELECTION FOR 2023 413 00:12:05,900 --> 00:12:09,066 IS ALREADY OFF AND RUNNING. 414 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,133 >> Tessa: IT'S BEEN SO OFF AND 415 00:12:09,066 --> 00:12:12,333 RUNG FOR SO LONG I THINK THEY'RE 416 00:12:11,133 --> 00:12:14,333 PROBABLY SURPRISED THE GOVERNOR 417 00:12:12,333 --> 00:12:16,700 WASN'T ON THE BALLOT. 418 00:12:14,333 --> 00:12:18,466 I THINK, YES, ONCE WE'RE PASSED 419 00:12:16,700 --> 00:12:20,966 THE HOLIDAYS FOR THE NEXT COUPLE 420 00:12:18,466 --> 00:12:22,400 OF WEEKS 2023 HAS ALREADY BEGUN 421 00:12:20,966 --> 00:12:23,700 BUT IT'S GOING TO KICK UP A 422 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,033 NOTCH FOR SURE. 423 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:28,433 THERE ARE CURRENTLY -- WE'LL SEE 424 00:12:25,033 --> 00:12:30,600 IN THAT REMAINS THE CASE BUT 425 00:12:28,433 --> 00:12:31,033 CURRENTLY A DOZEN 426 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,200 REPUBLICANS -- 427 00:12:31,033 --> 00:12:35,000 >> Joe: 13 IS UNLUCKY. 428 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,200 >> Tessa: MAYBE FOR THEM BUT 429 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,733 NOT FOR GOVERNOR BESHEAR. 430 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,800 YES, THE REPUBLICANS REALLY ARE 431 00:12:37,733 --> 00:12:41,566 GOING TO HAVE TO DIFFERENTIATE 432 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,866 THEMSELVES IN THIS CROWDED 433 00:12:41,566 --> 00:12:43,866 FIELD. 434 00:12:41,866 --> 00:12:44,933 YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OF LIBERTY 435 00:12:43,866 --> 00:12:46,966 ALIGNED CANDIDATES IN THERE. 436 00:12:44,933 --> 00:12:48,466 YOU'VE GOT YOUR SOFTER 437 00:12:46,966 --> 00:12:49,166 MAINSTREAM ESTABLISHMENT 438 00:12:48,466 --> 00:12:50,666 REPUBLICANS. 439 00:12:49,166 --> 00:12:52,766 AND THIS IN A FIELD OF A DOZEN 440 00:12:50,666 --> 00:12:53,866 THEY'VE GOT TO SAY, HERE'S WHY 441 00:12:52,766 --> 00:12:55,433 I'M DIFFERENT AND WHY I SHOULD 442 00:12:53,866 --> 00:12:57,333 BE OUR PARTY'S NOMINEE. 443 00:12:55,433 --> 00:12:57,633 THEY'VE GOT TO GET TO WORK ON 444 00:12:57,333 --> 00:12:59,000 THAT. 445 00:12:57,633 --> 00:12:59,866 >> Bill: SO THEY'LL BE 446 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,733 FIGHTING AMONG THEMSELVES BUT 447 00:12:59,866 --> 00:13:03,700 ALSO TRYING TO KEEP SOME FOCUS 448 00:13:01,733 --> 00:13:04,666 ON DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR ANDY 449 00:13:03,700 --> 00:13:06,433 BESHEAR AND, OF COURSE, WE KNOW 450 00:13:04,666 --> 00:13:09,266 OF HIS POPULARITY AND HIS FOLKS 451 00:13:06,433 --> 00:13:10,800 REMIND US OF THAT AND MAJOR JOBS 452 00:13:09,266 --> 00:13:12,666 ANNOUNCEMENT AND SO FORTH, BUT 453 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,033 HAVE THEY POSSIBLY FOUND AN AREA 454 00:13:12,666 --> 00:13:17,566 OF ATTACK ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE 455 00:13:15,033 --> 00:13:19,133 WITH THE PROBLEMS IN THE STATE 456 00:13:17,566 --> 00:13:21,300 JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT'S 457 00:13:19,133 --> 00:13:23,633 GOING ON RIGHT NOW OR HAS HIS 458 00:13:21,300 --> 00:13:24,433 ADMINISTRATION GOT OUT IN FRONT 459 00:13:23,633 --> 00:13:25,400 OF THAT? 460 00:13:24,433 --> 00:13:26,600 >> Tessa: WELL, I WOULD I 461 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,233 THINK YOU COULD SAY ANY TIME 462 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,333 THERE ARE ALREADY RIOTS AND 463 00:13:28,233 --> 00:13:32,900 PROPERTY DAMAGE, STAFF MEMBERS 464 00:13:30,333 --> 00:13:35,133 BEING HARMED, A YOUNG GIRL WAS 465 00:13:32,900 --> 00:13:36,666 ASSAULTED IN STATE CUSTODY, 466 00:13:35,133 --> 00:13:37,400 THAT'S NOT AHEAD OF THE 467 00:13:36,666 --> 00:13:38,866 PROBLEM. 468 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,333 SO, YES, I THINK REPUBLICANS 469 00:13:38,866 --> 00:13:44,033 BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE FOUND A 470 00:13:40,333 --> 00:13:45,900 SOFT SPOT, A WEAKNESS WHERE THEY 471 00:13:44,033 --> 00:13:46,233 CAN LA'EL GO AFTER ANDY 472 00:13:45,900 --> 00:13:46,833 BESHEAR. 473 00:13:46,233 --> 00:13:47,600 JUVENILE JUSTICE IS NOT 474 00:13:46,833 --> 00:13:48,733 SOMETHING THAT NORMALLY GETS A 475 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,400 LOT OF HEADLINES. 476 00:13:48,733 --> 00:13:51,033 THERE'S NOT USUALLY A LOT OF 477 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,200 LEGISLATION ABOUT IT, AND 478 00:13:51,033 --> 00:13:55,000 CERTAINLY IT'S NOT A KEY ISSUE 479 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,600 IN GUBERNATORIAL RACES. 480 00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:00,900 BUT THESE ARE CHILDREN WHO ARE 481 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,533 IN STATE CUSTODY WHAT SOME OF 482 00:14:00,900 --> 00:14:03,733 THE THING THAT ARE -- BEING DONE 483 00:14:02,533 --> 00:14:05,900 IN THESE CENTERS AND HAVE BEEN 484 00:14:03,733 --> 00:14:09,400 FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW, TO BE 485 00:14:05,900 --> 00:14:10,933 CLEAR, THIS IS NOT A NEW PROBLEM 486 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,233 UNIQUE TO THE BESHEAR 487 00:14:10,933 --> 00:14:14,500 ADMINISTRATION, BUT IT CERTAINLY 488 00:14:12,233 --> 00:14:16,200 HAS NOT BEEN SOLVED IN THE THREE 489 00:14:14,500 --> 00:14:16,733 YEARS THAT THAT HE'S BEEN IN 490 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,800 OFFICE. 491 00:14:16,733 --> 00:14:20,233 SO, YES, I THINK IT'S CLEAR JUST 492 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,533 GIVEN THE HEARING THAT TOOK 493 00:14:20,233 --> 00:14:24,266 PLACE IN FRANKFORT, THE PRESS 494 00:14:22,533 --> 00:14:25,700 CONFERENCE THAT REPUBLICANS 495 00:14:24,266 --> 00:14:27,833 LEADERS HAVE HELD, THEY DO FEEL 496 00:14:25,700 --> 00:14:28,366 THIS IS AN ISSUE WHERE HE IS 497 00:14:27,833 --> 00:14:29,633 VULNERABLE. 498 00:14:28,366 --> 00:14:30,633 THE THING IS THE GOVERNOR HAS 499 00:14:29,633 --> 00:14:31,433 ANNOUNCED SOME CHANGES THAT ARE 500 00:14:30,633 --> 00:14:33,033 BEING MADE. 501 00:14:31,433 --> 00:14:35,033 A COUPLE WEEK AGO THERE'S GOING 502 00:14:33,033 --> 00:14:37,666 TO BE A GIRLS-ONLY FACILITY. 503 00:14:35,033 --> 00:14:39,966 NOW WE'RE GOING TO SEE YOUTH 504 00:14:37,666 --> 00:14:42,133 BEING HELD ON SORT OF SEVERITY 505 00:14:39,966 --> 00:14:43,000 OF THEIR CHARGES, HOUSED 506 00:14:42,133 --> 00:14:44,533 TOGETHER WHICH IS GOING TO 507 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,200 CREATE ALL KIND OF OTHER 508 00:14:44,533 --> 00:14:46,400 LOGISTICAL ISSUES. 509 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,800 BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S 510 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,366 REALLY CAUSING A LOT OF THESE 511 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,666 ISSUES WITHIN THE JUVENILE 512 00:14:49,366 --> 00:14:51,966 JUSTICE FACILITIES IS 513 00:14:50,666 --> 00:14:53,066 UNDERSTAFFING, AND I THINK THAT 514 00:14:51,966 --> 00:14:54,900 UNDERSTAFFING IS A DIRECT RESULT 515 00:14:53,066 --> 00:14:56,666 OF THE VERY LOW PAY THAT A LOT 516 00:14:54,900 --> 00:15:01,400 OF THESE YOUTH WORKERS ARE 517 00:14:56,666 --> 00:15:03,300 GETTING, AND SO UNTIL THAT IS 518 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,000 ADDRESSED, STAFF IS OVERWORKED, 519 00:15:03,300 --> 00:15:05,433 MORALE IS LOW. 520 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,433 THOSE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO 521 00:15:05,433 --> 00:15:08,166 CONTRIBUTE TO SAFETY ISSUES. 522 00:15:06,433 --> 00:15:09,833 >> Bill: SO THAT PUTS IT BACK 523 00:15:08,166 --> 00:15:10,133 IN LEGISLATURE'S COURT YET 524 00:15:09,833 --> 00:15:10,900 AGAIN. 525 00:15:10,133 --> 00:15:13,400 THERE WAS TESTIMONY THIS WEEK 526 00:15:10,900 --> 00:15:16,600 FROM THE STATE JUSTICE SECRETARY 527 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,666 KERRY HARVEY ABOUT THE STATE 528 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,133 INCARCERATING SERIOUS JUVENILE 529 00:15:17,666 --> 00:15:20,900 OFFENDERS ALONGSIDE THOSE 530 00:15:19,133 --> 00:15:21,266 CONVICTED OF MUCH LESS SERIOUS 531 00:15:20,900 --> 00:15:24,733 OFFENSES. 532 00:15:21,266 --> 00:15:25,166 HE INDICATES THAT'S GONE ON FOR 533 00:15:24,733 --> 00:15:25,633 A LONG TIME. 534 00:15:25,166 --> 00:15:27,233 >> Tessa: RIGHT. 535 00:15:25,633 --> 00:15:29,033 THE STATE HAS HAD A REGIONAL 536 00:15:27,233 --> 00:15:31,833 JUVENILE DETENTION SYSTEM I 537 00:15:29,033 --> 00:15:32,800 THINK ESSENTIALLY SINCE THE 538 00:15:31,833 --> 00:15:34,100 DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE 539 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,800 HAS SET UP 24 YEARS GO ON, SO 540 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:37,900 THAT IS WHAT THIS PROPOSAL SEEKS 541 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,700 TO ADDRESS, IS THAT YOU'RE MOW 542 00:15:37,900 --> 00:15:42,033 LONGER GOING TO TO HAVE A YOUTH 543 00:15:39,700 --> 00:15:44,566 THAT IS CHARGED FOR A GUN CRIME, 544 00:15:42,033 --> 00:15:46,200 AGRICULTURE VATED ASSAULT, EVEN 545 00:15:44,566 --> 00:15:47,833 MORE SERIOUS MURDER/MANSLAUGHTER 546 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,600 CHARGES, ALONG WITH A KID WHO IS 547 00:15:47,833 --> 00:15:51,300 IN THERE FOR A MISDEMEANOR, 548 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,633 WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE. 549 00:15:51,300 --> 00:15:56,833 AND SO THE HOPE IS THAT BY 550 00:15:54,633 --> 00:15:59,766 PUTTING YOUTH WITH MORE SERIOUS 551 00:15:56,833 --> 00:16:02,266 SAFETY CONCERNS INTO A NUMBER OF 552 00:15:59,766 --> 00:16:03,800 FACILITIES WHERE THEY CAN AMP UP 553 00:16:02,266 --> 00:16:05,366 THE PHYSICAL SECURITY OF THE 554 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,166 SECURITY OF THE BUILDING, STAFF 555 00:16:05,366 --> 00:16:07,966 THEM BETTER, MAYBE EVEN PAY THE 556 00:16:07,166 --> 00:16:09,000 PEOPLE WORKING IN THOSE 557 00:16:07,966 --> 00:16:10,733 FACILITIES A LITTLE BIT MORE 558 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,500 BECAUSE OF THAT ADDED RISK, THAT 559 00:16:10,733 --> 00:16:13,566 THAT IS THE PLAN FOR NOW. 560 00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:15,100 THAT'S HOW THEY ARE GOING TO 561 00:16:13,566 --> 00:16:15,400 SEPARATE OUT AND ADDRESS THIS 562 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:16,666 ISSUE. 563 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,533 >> Bill: WITH JUST OVER TWO 564 00:16:16,666 --> 00:16:19,966 WEEKS UNTIL LAWMAKER ARRIVE 234 565 00:16:18,533 --> 00:16:21,233 FRANKFORT, THE FRESH NUMBERS 566 00:16:19,966 --> 00:16:21,700 SHOW TAX RECEIPTS CONTINUE TO 567 00:16:21,233 --> 00:16:23,666 ROLL IN. 568 00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:27,266 IT MAN'S THE LEGISLATURE IS SET 569 00:16:23,666 --> 00:16:27,966 TO BRING DOWN THE STATE INCOME 570 00:16:27,266 --> 00:16:30,533 TAX. 571 00:16:27,966 --> 00:16:31,866 IT PRESERVES OPTIONS FOR SPEND 572 00:16:30,533 --> 00:16:33,500 SPENDING LAWMAKERS DO CHOOSE TO 573 00:16:31,866 --> 00:16:34,266 GET IN AND USE SOME OF THE 574 00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:36,133 UNANTICIPATED REVENUE. 575 00:16:34,266 --> 00:16:37,966 JOE, WE KNOW THE STAGE IS SET 576 00:16:36,133 --> 00:16:38,766 FOR SOME DRAMA IN FRANKFORT. 577 00:16:37,966 --> 00:16:41,400 GOVERNOR BESHEAR PUSHING FOR 578 00:16:38,766 --> 00:16:42,933 MONEY TO BE USED FOR PRE-K AND 579 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,566 FOR TEACHER PAY AND 580 00:16:42,933 --> 00:16:46,200 RECRUITMENT. 581 00:16:43,566 --> 00:16:48,300 THERE'S A BILL FILED TO BOOST 582 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,833 STATE RETIREE PENSIONS. 583 00:16:48,300 --> 00:16:53,366 BUT THERE IS ALSO, OBVIOUSLY, A 584 00:16:50,833 --> 00:16:54,800 DESIRE ON THE PART OF THE YOU 585 00:16:53,366 --> 00:16:58,700 HAVE BEEN LEGISLATIVE LEADERS TO 586 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,166 TAMP DOWN EXPECTATIONS IN THIS 587 00:16:58,700 --> 00:16:59,866 30-DAY SESSION. 588 00:16:59,166 --> 00:17:01,866 >> Joe: YEAH, GOVERNOR BESHEAR 589 00:16:59,866 --> 00:17:03,000 RAN ON ALL THESE PROMISES OF 590 00:17:01,866 --> 00:17:07,033 TEACHER RAVERS AND HE WANTS TO 591 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:08,233 ADDRESS THE TEACHER SHORTFALL. 592 00:17:07,033 --> 00:17:09,366 BUT REPUBLICANS HAVE MADE IT 593 00:17:08,233 --> 00:17:11,400 CLEAR THAT THEY'RE JUST NOT 594 00:17:09,366 --> 00:17:15,000 GOING TO OPEN UP THE BUDGET AND 595 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:17,233 DO A HUGE REVAMP AND SPEND A LOT 596 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,033 OF MONEY IN THIS SESSION. 597 00:17:17,233 --> 00:17:21,333 SO BESHEAR MAY WANT THAT, BUT 598 00:17:19,033 --> 00:17:22,600 WHEN YOU HAVE ABOUT 20% OF THE 599 00:17:21,333 --> 00:17:24,366 SEATS IN THE HOUSE AND THE 600 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,766 SENATE WHO BELONG TO YOUR PARTY, 601 00:17:24,366 --> 00:17:27,933 IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET YOUR 602 00:17:25,766 --> 00:17:29,266 AGENDA THROUGH, SO THAT'S -- 603 00:17:27,933 --> 00:17:31,866 ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES AND 604 00:17:29,266 --> 00:17:33,433 THAT'S THE CASE HERE. 605 00:17:31,866 --> 00:17:34,433 >> Bill: ALSO, MANY 606 00:17:33,433 --> 00:17:36,066 REPUBLICANS WHO REMIND PEOPLE 607 00:17:34,433 --> 00:17:39,433 THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PENSION 608 00:17:36,066 --> 00:17:40,666 DEBT TO PAY DOWN, STILL A WEIGHT 609 00:17:39,433 --> 00:17:42,166 AROUND THE NECK OF STATE 610 00:17:40,666 --> 00:17:44,066 GOVERNMENT, BUT A LOT OF THE 611 00:17:42,166 --> 00:17:46,766 SURPLUS AT THIS POINT IS BEING 612 00:17:44,066 --> 00:17:47,066 BANKED AWAY, RIGHT, IN RAINY DAY 613 00:17:46,766 --> 00:17:47,766 FUNDS. 614 00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:49,033 >> Joe: YEAH, THEY PASSED 615 00:17:47,766 --> 00:17:50,333 HOUSE BILL GO THIS YEAR, WHICH 616 00:17:49,033 --> 00:17:51,366 WAS A LONGTIME GOAL OF 617 00:17:50,333 --> 00:17:53,300 REPUBLICANS, AND THIS IS ONE OF 618 00:17:51,366 --> 00:17:56,133 THE REALLY THE LANDMARK BILLS 619 00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:57,566 THAT THEY'VE PASSED TO MEET 620 00:17:56,133 --> 00:18:00,600 THEIR GOAL AND AGENDA. 621 00:17:57,566 --> 00:18:01,966 AND THAT SETS UP A SYSTEM WHERE 622 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,000 YOU LOWER THE INDIVIDUAL INCOME 623 00:18:01,966 --> 00:18:03,566 TAX EVERY YEAR BUT YOU HAVE TO 624 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,900 HAVE TWO THINGS. 625 00:18:03,566 --> 00:18:09,766 YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LARGE RAINY 626 00:18:05,900 --> 00:18:13,533 DAY FUND AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A 627 00:18:09,766 --> 00:18:15,800 CONSIST SUR DIFFERENT SURPLUS, 628 00:18:13,533 --> 00:18:16,633 REVENUE OUTPAYSING WHAT YOU'RE 629 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,666 SPENDING. 630 00:18:16,633 --> 00:18:19,233 IF NOSE THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS 631 00:18:17,666 --> 00:18:21,766 YOU NEEDED THE TO DO, YOUR GOAL 632 00:18:19,233 --> 00:18:23,733 OF TUTTING TAXES, THAT'S AN SIN 633 00:18:21,766 --> 00:18:25,466 OF TO KEEP MUCH SAVED AND KEEP 634 00:18:23,733 --> 00:18:25,966 SPENDING DOWN SO YOU HAVE THAT 635 00:18:25,466 --> 00:18:27,166 SUR MUST. 636 00:18:25,966 --> 00:18:28,633 >> Bill: THE KENTUCKY CHAMBER 637 00:18:27,166 --> 00:18:31,500 OF COMMERCE WILL BE HOLDING A 638 00:18:28,633 --> 00:18:32,700 BIG CHAMBER DAY THE WEEK THE 639 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:34,233 SESSION OPS THEY'RE PUSHING 640 00:18:32,700 --> 00:18:35,400 EXPANDnd BETTING AND SPORTS 641 00:18:34,233 --> 00:18:36,733 BEATING AND ALSO NOTING THE 642 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,833 STRENGTH OF QUESTION AND ECONOMY 643 00:18:36,733 --> 00:18:38,600 AND THE WORKFORCE ISSUES THAT 644 00:18:37,833 --> 00:18:40,366 CONTINUE TO BE OUT. 645 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,533 THE THE CHAMBERS A CEO HAD THIS 646 00:18:40,366 --> 00:18:44,166 TO SAY IN AN INTERVIEW WITH ME 647 00:18:41,533 --> 00:18:45,866 THAT AIRS THIS WEEKEND ON WKYT. 648 00:18:44,166 --> 00:18:47,600 >> OUR ECONOMY HERE IN KENTUCKY 649 00:18:45,866 --> 00:18:50,400 IS GOING WELL EVEN THOUGH WE 650 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:52,400 HAVE BEEN SEEING THAT RECORD 651 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,533 INFLATION, THE -- ISSUES AND 652 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,266 EVERYTHING THAT HAS ISSUED IN 653 00:18:53,533 --> 00:18:56,766 THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. 654 00:18:54,266 --> 00:18:57,766 THE THING THAT REALLY CONCERNS 655 00:18:56,766 --> 00:18:59,433 MOST BUSINESS LEADERS ACROSS THE 656 00:18:57,766 --> 00:19:01,366 STATE REGARDLESS OF SECTOR ARE 657 00:18:59,433 --> 00:19:03,466 OUR ISSUES WITH WORKFORCE. 658 00:19:01,366 --> 00:19:05,200 WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT TWO OPEN 659 00:19:03,466 --> 00:19:07,400 JOBS FOR EVERY ONE PERSON 660 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,733 LOOKING AND SO WHEN YOUD ASK 661 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,433 BUSINESSES ALL ACROSS THE 662 00:19:08,733 --> 00:19:11,133 COMMONWEALTH WHAT IS THE ONE 663 00:19:09,433 --> 00:19:12,733 THING THAT KEEPS THEM UP AT 664 00:19:11,133 --> 00:19:14,733 NIGHT, IT IS WORKFORCE. 665 00:19:12,733 --> 00:19:18,933 >> Bill: AND YET, TESSA, IT IS 666 00:19:14,733 --> 00:19:19,700 HARD TO DEAL WITH KENTUCKY'S JOB 667 00:19:18,933 --> 00:19:22,066 PARTICIPATION RATE BECAUSE A LOT 668 00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:22,333 OF KENTUCKIANS ARE RETIRE. 669 00:19:22,066 --> 00:19:24,033 >>> 670 00:19:22,333 --> 00:19:26,733 >> Tessa: YEAH, I BELIEVE 671 00:19:24,033 --> 00:19:27,033 KENTUCKY HAS ABOUT THE SEVENTH 672 00:19:26,733 --> 00:19:28,066 LOWES. 673 00:19:27,033 --> 00:19:29,400 PARTICIPATION RATE, AND IT CAME 674 00:19:28,066 --> 00:19:30,600 UP IN THE GOVERNOR'S PRESS 675 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,000 CONFERENCE THIS WEEK WHICH HE 676 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,333 OFTEN KICKS OFF WITH JOB 677 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,000 ANNOUNCEMENTS, AND ONE THING HE 678 00:19:33,333 --> 00:19:36,500 SAID, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO 679 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,133 NEED MORE PEOPLE TO MOVE TO THE 680 00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:39,766 STATE TO FILL ALL THESE JOBS, 681 00:19:38,133 --> 00:19:40,966 WHICH I THINK WAS INTENDED TO 682 00:19:39,766 --> 00:19:42,600 SAY, I'M BRINGING SO MANY JOBS 683 00:19:40,966 --> 00:19:44,600 HERE, BUT THE REALITY IS, YEAH, 684 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,666 THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE NEEDED TO 685 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,966 FILL A LOT OF THE POSITIONS WE 686 00:19:47,666 --> 00:19:48,700 HAVE. 687 00:19:47,966 --> 00:19:49,400 >> Joe: ANOTHER ISSUE THAT THE 688 00:19:48,700 --> 00:19:50,800 CHAMBER SUPPORTS HA YOU'RE 689 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,333 PROBABLY GOING TO SEE A BILL 690 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,566 ADVANCE THE IN SECTION NEXT YEAR 691 00:19:53,333 --> 00:19:55,533 DEALS WITH THE BENEFITS CLIFF 692 00:19:54,566 --> 00:19:58,366 WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO MAY 693 00:19:55,533 --> 00:20:01,333 WANT TO TAKE ANOTHER JOB OR WORK 694 00:19:58,366 --> 00:20:03,200 MORE HOURS OR -- BUT THEY DON'T 695 00:20:01,333 --> 00:20:04,633 BECAUSE WHILE THEIR INCOME WOULD 696 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,866 LIFT A LITTLE BIT, THEY WOULD 697 00:20:04,633 --> 00:20:07,700 LOSE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE, 698 00:20:05,866 --> 00:20:09,333 THEY WOULD LOSE ALL THEIR 699 00:20:07,700 --> 00:20:14,266 BENEFITS THAT THEY NEED, SO THEY 700 00:20:09,333 --> 00:20:16,133 WOULD BE WORSE OFF, SO EXPECT 701 00:20:14,266 --> 00:20:17,233 LEGISLATION TO ADDRESS THAT. 702 00:20:16,133 --> 00:20:18,533 QUESTIONABLE WHETHER IT'S GOING 703 00:20:17,233 --> 00:20:20,733 TO PASS OR NOT BECAUSE THAT 704 00:20:18,533 --> 00:20:22,266 WOULD TAKE A GOOD DEAL OF 705 00:20:20,733 --> 00:20:24,100 FINDING THE FUNDS IN ORDER TO 706 00:20:22,266 --> 00:20:24,766 CREATE THE INCENTIVES FOR THAT 707 00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:26,433 TO HAPPEN. 708 00:20:24,766 --> 00:20:29,266 >> Bill: KENTUCKY WAITS 709 00:20:26,433 --> 00:20:29,900 ANOTHER MAJOR DECISION FROM THE 710 00:20:29,266 --> 00:20:31,633 KENTUCKY SUPREME COURT ON 711 00:20:29,900 --> 00:20:33,533 WHETHER THE ABORTION BAN TRIGGER 712 00:20:31,633 --> 00:20:35,300 LAW WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT WHILE 713 00:20:33,533 --> 00:20:35,600 IT'S BEING FULLY VETTED IN 714 00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:36,866 COURT. 715 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,833 THAT COULD COME NEXT WEEKS. 716 00:20:36,866 --> 00:20:40,300 SARAH, THAT WOULD NOT BE A FINE 717 00:20:38,833 --> 00:20:41,533 RULING BUT IT WOULD DECIDE THE 718 00:20:40,300 --> 00:20:43,166 ISSUE FOR A TIME. 719 00:20:41,533 --> 00:20:46,100 ARE PROVIDERS READY TO DEAL WITH 720 00:20:43,166 --> 00:20:46,500 WHATEVER DECISION COMES COUN THE 721 00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:48,233 FROM COURT. 722 00:20:46,500 --> 00:20:49,766 >> Nancy: YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE 723 00:20:48,233 --> 00:20:50,833 HEARD CONSISTENTLY SINCE ROE V. 724 00:20:49,766 --> 00:20:52,300 WADE WAS OVERTURNED IS THAT 725 00:20:50,833 --> 00:20:54,333 THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION THAT 726 00:20:52,300 --> 00:20:57,533 PROVIDERS ARE FACING WHEN IT 727 00:20:54,333 --> 00:20:58,066 COMES TO TREATING MISCARRIAGE 728 00:20:57,533 --> 00:20:59,700 PARTICULARLY. 729 00:20:58,066 --> 00:21:01,066 I'VE HEARD CONSISTENTLY FROM 730 00:20:59,700 --> 00:21:02,966 PROVIDERS THAT THEY'RE CONFUSED 731 00:21:01,066 --> 00:21:03,966 ABOUT THE LEVEL OF CARE THEY CAN 732 00:21:02,966 --> 00:21:05,600 GIVE IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS, 733 00:21:03,966 --> 00:21:08,500 AND THE MAIN ONES I HEAR ABOUT 734 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,000 ARE MISSED MISCARRIAGES WHICH 735 00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:11,666 ARE BASICALLY MEANS THE FETAL 736 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,066 HEARTBEAT HAS STOPPED BUT 737 00:21:11,666 --> 00:21:14,933 NOTHING HAS PASSED SO THAT 738 00:21:13,066 --> 00:21:16,133 THERE'S AN INTERNING NEEDED. 739 00:21:14,933 --> 00:21:16,433 OTHER TIMES -- INTERVENTION 740 00:21:16,133 --> 00:21:19,200 NEED. 741 00:21:16,433 --> 00:21:21,633 OTHER TIMES A PERSON MAY BE 742 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:24,166 HEMORRHAGING OR BLEEDING HEAVILY 743 00:21:21,633 --> 00:21:25,466 BUT AN ULTRASOUND DOES STILL SO 744 00:21:24,166 --> 00:21:26,733 A HEARTBEAT. 745 00:21:25,466 --> 00:21:28,533 SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF 746 00:21:26,733 --> 00:21:29,933 CONFUSION AS WHAT CAN YOU DO TO 747 00:21:28,533 --> 00:21:30,833 FOLLOW THE LETTER OF THE LAW AND 748 00:21:29,933 --> 00:21:33,000 ALSO PROVIDE THAT CARE. 749 00:21:30,833 --> 00:21:34,066 OVER THE SUMMER AFTER ROE V. 750 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,333 WADE WAS OVERTURNED, THE 751 00:21:34,066 --> 00:21:37,966 ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE DID 752 00:21:35,333 --> 00:21:39,266 PUT OUT A STATEMENT, KIND OF AN 753 00:21:37,966 --> 00:21:40,466 EXPLAINER PIECE, SAYING THAT THE 754 00:21:39,266 --> 00:21:42,133 HUMAN LIFE PROTECTION ACT DID 755 00:21:40,466 --> 00:21:44,400 NOT INDEED APPLY TO KENTUCKIANS 756 00:21:42,133 --> 00:21:47,066 GOING INTO A MISCARRIAGE, BUT WE 757 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,266 STILL HEAR ABOUT THAT CONFUSION, 758 00:21:47,066 --> 00:21:50,766 SO I THINK WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE 759 00:21:48,266 --> 00:21:51,133 PUSHES FOR CLARITY IN THE 760 00:21:50,766 --> 00:21:52,533 LANGUAGE. 761 00:21:51,133 --> 00:21:55,233 >> Bill: SARAH, YOU'RE OFF AT 762 00:21:52,533 --> 00:21:55,600 A FAST START AT THE KENTUCKY 763 00:21:55,233 --> 00:21:56,933 LANTERN. 764 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,766 A LOT OF PREGNANT KENTUCKY WOMEN 765 00:21:56,933 --> 00:22:01,733 LACK ACCESS TO CARE, AND YOU 766 00:21:59,766 --> 00:22:05,033 WROTE ABOUT HOW MIDWIVES MIGHT 767 00:22:01,733 --> 00:22:05,500 HELP FILL THAT GAP. 768 00:22:05,033 --> 00:22:06,700 >> Sarah: RIGHT. 769 00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:09,333 ALMOST HALF OF KENTUCKY'S 770 00:22:06,700 --> 00:22:10,333 COUNTIES ARE IN MARINATE CARE 771 00:22:09,333 --> 00:22:13,200 DESERTS MEANING THEY DON'T HAVE 772 00:22:10,333 --> 00:22:14,533 BIRTH CENTERS, NO OB/GYNs, NO 773 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,833 CERTIFIED NURSE MIDWIVES. 774 00:22:14,533 --> 00:22:18,600 WHAT YOU SELL SHAKEN HAVE IS A 775 00:22:16,833 --> 00:22:19,466 LAT LOW-RISK PREGNANT 776 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,100 KENTUCKIANS WHO DON'T 777 00:22:19,466 --> 00:22:22,533 NECESSARILY WANT A LOT OF 778 00:22:21,100 --> 00:22:24,200 MEDICAL INTERVENTION IN A 779 00:22:22,533 --> 00:22:26,400 HEALTHY STATE WHERE THEY CAN GET 780 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:29,100 AWAY WITH NOT NEEDING IT. 781 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,800 THEY WANT MID WINFREY CARE AND 782 00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:32,700 ESSENTIALLY YOU HAVE THEM 783 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,533 TRAVELING THREE HOURS TO GET IT, 784 00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:37,100 AND MIDWIVES ARE SAYING THAT 785 00:22:34,533 --> 00:22:38,466 WITH MORE MIDWIVES IN THE STATE 786 00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:40,000 AND BIRTH CENTERS AND THINGS 787 00:22:38,466 --> 00:22:41,666 LIKE THAT, YOU CAN KIND OF 788 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,366 BRIDGE THE GAP IN THESE DESERTS 789 00:22:41,666 --> 00:22:43,633 AND YOU CAN ESSENTIALLY BRING 790 00:22:42,366 --> 00:22:46,166 THAT CARE TO EVERY COUNTY. 791 00:22:43,633 --> 00:22:46,433 THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO 792 00:22:46,166 --> 00:22:49,066 SEE. 793 00:22:46,433 --> 00:22:50,366 >> Bill: LOUISVILLE'S MAYOR 794 00:22:49,066 --> 00:22:52,333 ECO-GREENBERG IS PUTTING HIS 795 00:22:50,366 --> 00:22:55,400 ENERGIES TOGETHER AND PICKING 796 00:22:52,333 --> 00:22:55,666 SOME TO THE METRO COUNCIL. 797 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,400 >>> 798 00:22:55,666 --> 00:22:58,100 >> Joe: SHE HAS PICKED UP 799 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,566 ACCIDENT CHUNK FROM LOUISVILLE 800 00:22:58,100 --> 00:23:00,966 METRO COUNCIL THREE CURRENT 801 00:22:59,566 --> 00:23:02,000 MEMBERS, DAVID JAMES ALSO A 802 00:23:00,966 --> 00:23:03,833 FORMER MEMBER. 803 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,433 THEY WERE ALL SUPPORTERS OF HIS 804 00:23:03,833 --> 00:23:08,133 CAMPAIGN, SO A LOT OF FAMILIAR 805 00:23:05,433 --> 00:23:08,766 FACES WITH A NEW FACE IN THE 806 00:23:08,133 --> 00:23:09,600 MAYOR'S OFFICE. 807 00:23:08,766 --> 00:23:11,166 >> Bill: SENATORS PAUL AND 808 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,733 McCONNELL ARE AT DOLLARS ON 809 00:23:11,166 --> 00:23:13,700 OVER DEFENSE SPENDING AND OTHER 810 00:23:12,733 --> 00:23:14,833 SPENDING MEASURES RIGHT NOW. 811 00:23:13,700 --> 00:23:16,966 NOTHING NEW. 812 00:23:14,833 --> 00:23:18,133 THOSE TWO HAVE DIFFERENT 813 00:23:16,966 --> 00:23:22,766 APPROACHES SOMETIMES, BUT WE 814 00:23:18,133 --> 00:23:23,133 EXPECT THAT TO CON INTO THE NEW 815 00:23:22,766 --> 00:23:23,833 CONGRESS? 816 00:23:23,133 --> 00:23:25,300 >> Joe: IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR 817 00:23:23,833 --> 00:23:27,100 12 YEARS, AND WHEN IT COMES TO 818 00:23:25,300 --> 00:23:28,633 DEFENSE SPENDING, MILITARY AID, 819 00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:29,633 YOU PROBABLY COULDN'T GET ANY 820 00:23:28,633 --> 00:23:31,800 MORE DIFFERENT THAN MITCH 821 00:23:29,633 --> 00:23:33,666 McCONNELL AND RAND PAUL, SO I 822 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,000 WOULD EXPECT THAT TO CONTINUE 823 00:23:33,666 --> 00:23:35,633 FOREVER. 824 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,600 >> Bill: THE ONLY DEMOCRAT IN 825 00:23:35,633 --> 00:23:39,433 KENTUCKY'S CONGRESSIONAL 826 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,366 DELEGATION SAID HIS FAREWELL TO 827 00:23:39,433 --> 00:23:41,766 WASHINGTON. 828 00:23:40,366 --> 00:23:43,066 CONGRESSIAN JOHN YARMUTH WHO IS 829 00:23:41,766 --> 00:23:44,500 NOW 75 OPTED OUT OF RUNNING FOR 830 00:23:43,066 --> 00:23:45,600 RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR, AND HE 831 00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:46,733 TOLD HIS COLLEAGUES THAT IT 832 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,333 COMES WITH SOME MIXED EMOTIONS. 833 00:23:46,733 --> 00:23:50,566 >> I WILL MISS THE SERIOUS, 834 00:23:49,333 --> 00:23:51,833 THOUGHTFUL AND OFTEN NOBLE 835 00:23:50,566 --> 00:23:54,100 DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAN 836 00:23:51,833 --> 00:23:54,500 MAKE A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE IN 837 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:58,833 THE 838 00:23:54,500 --> 00:24:00,333 LIVES OF SO MANY AMERICANS EVEN 839 00:23:58,833 --> 00:24:02,900 IF WE RARELY MAKE AS BIG A 840 00:24:00,333 --> 00:24:06,400 DIFFERENCE AS WE THAN THE WA AND 841 00:24:02,900 --> 00:24:07,066 I WILL MISS THE GIVE-AND-TAKE OF 842 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,400 POLICY DEBATES EVEN THOUGH I 843 00:24:07,066 --> 00:24:10,700 KNOW THIS WAS NEVER A CHANCE THE 844 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,000 DEBATES WOULD CHANGE ANYONE'S 845 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:12,000 MIND. 846 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,200 ON THE OTHER HAND I WENT MISS 847 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,966 THE REALITY THAT OUR MOST OF OUR 848 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,033 RETEENAGER FIREPOWER IS 849 00:24:15,966 --> 00:24:19,333 PREACHING TO OUR RESPECTIVE 850 00:24:17,033 --> 00:24:20,966 CHOIRS AND THAT TOO MUCH OF WE 851 00:24:19,333 --> 00:24:25,733 SEE WE SAY COMES FROM THE DEVIL 852 00:24:20,966 --> 00:24:26,066 AND IS NOT THE ANGELS OF OUR 853 00:24:25,733 --> 00:24:26,733 NATURES. 854 00:24:26,066 --> 00:24:30,466 >> Bill: JOHN YARMUTH MADE I 855 00:24:26,733 --> 00:24:30,966 CLEAR HE WILL MISS SOME BUT NOT 856 00:24:30,466 --> 00:24:31,766 ALL OF. 857 00:24:30,966 --> 00:24:33,400 >> Joe: HE SAID HE WILL MISS 858 00:24:31,766 --> 00:24:34,700 THE CIRCUMSTANCE BUT NOT 859 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,033 NECESSARILY ALL OF CLOWNS. 860 00:24:34,700 --> 00:24:40,333 I'M NOT SURE IF HE HAD SOME 861 00:24:37,033 --> 00:24:40,866 PEOPLE IN KENTUCKY'S POLITICAL 862 00:24:40,333 --> 00:24:43,233 DELEGATION. 863 00:24:40,866 --> 00:24:43,633 YEAH, IT'S AN END OF AN ERA IN 864 00:24:43,233 --> 00:24:46,233 LOUISVILLE. 865 00:24:43,633 --> 00:24:47,566 >> Bill: HE'LL BE REPLACE I 866 00:24:46,233 --> 00:24:51,733 HAD BY SENATOR GOOD MORNING 867 00:24:47,566 --> 00:24:53,266 McGARVEY STATE SENATOR. 868 00:24:51,733 --> 00:24:56,833 WOULD YOU EXPECT McGARVEY'S 869 00:24:53,266 --> 00:24:59,300 APPROACH TO BE SIMILAR? 870 00:24:56,833 --> 00:24:59,900 >> Joe: IDEAL LODGELY HE'S 871 00:24:59,300 --> 00:25:01,800 MUCH LIKE JOHN YARMUTH. 872 00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:03,033 HE WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF A VERY 873 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,266 POWERFUL COMMITTEE. 874 00:25:03,033 --> 00:25:06,633 MCGARVEY IS GOING TO COME IN AS 875 00:25:05,266 --> 00:25:07,300 A FRESHMAN MEMBER AND ALSO IN 876 00:25:06,633 --> 00:25:09,900 THE MINORITY. 877 00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:11,300 SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT 878 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:12,433 LESS INFLUENCE RIGHT OFF THE BAT 879 00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:15,533 BUT THAT'S HE'S BEEN IN THE 880 00:25:12,433 --> 00:25:17,166 SENATE FOR A LONG TIME WHERE 881 00:25:15,533 --> 00:25:17,500 HE'S BEEN THE MONEY SO HE'S USED 882 00:25:17,166 --> 00:25:18,900 TO THAT. 883 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:20,033 >> Bill: EARN WITH KENTUCKY 884 00:25:18,900 --> 00:25:20,933 STUDENT JOURNALISTS WERE 885 00:25:20,033 --> 00:25:24,200 AGGRESSIVE IN TRYING TO FIGURE 886 00:25:20,933 --> 00:25:25,833 OUT THE COST OF BRINGING FORMER 887 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,166 NBA PLAYER SHAQUILLE O'NEAL TO 888 00:25:25,833 --> 00:25:27,800 CAMPUS. 889 00:25:26,166 --> 00:25:29,600 THEY DIDN'T STOP UNTIL THEY GOT 890 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,166 NUMBERS AND SOME INFORMATION 891 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:35,700 TEMPERATURE FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO 892 00:25:31,166 --> 00:25:37,400 DON'T KNOW SHAQ IS ALSO DEE JAIE 893 00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:38,533 TEESAL PFM WKU SPENT $130,000 894 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,633 BRINGING SHAQ TO CAMPUS. 895 00:25:38,533 --> 00:25:42,700 AND THE STUDENT JOURNALISTS AT 896 00:25:40,633 --> 00:25:44,200 THE WK HERALD, WHICH I AM AN 897 00:25:42,700 --> 00:25:47,833 ALUM -- GO TOPS -- WORKED REALLY 898 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:50,200 HARD TO GET THIS CONTRACT AND TO 899 00:25:47,833 --> 00:25:50,866 GET THE WRITER, AND THE 900 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,400 UNIVERSITY ROYALTY THE OPEN 901 00:25:50,866 --> 00:25:52,600 RECORDS ACT. 902 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,233 THEY WEREN'T GOING TO P HAND 903 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:58,400 OVER THE RIDER BUT THE STUDENT 904 00:25:56,233 --> 00:26:03,033 JOURNALISTS GOT IT AND NOW WE 905 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:04,966 KNOW SHAQ LIKE YELLOW GATORADE. 906 00:26:03,033 --> 00:26:06,700 >> Bill: LOUISVILLE GARDENS 907 00:26:04,966 --> 00:26:10,933 WILL UNDERGO MAJOR RENOVATIONS 908 00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:12,833 AND GET A MAJOR MOVIE STUDIO. 909 00:26:10,933 --> 00:26:13,900 >> Joe: AND ETHAN HAUCK WILL 910 00:26:12,833 --> 00:26:15,500 BE DIRECTING THERE. 911 00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:16,933 >> Bill: WHILE WOO SEE A DIP 912 00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:20,466 IN TEMPERATURES THIS WEEK, 913 00:26:16,933 --> 00:26:23,333 FORECASTERS ARE TELLING US TO 914 00:26:20,466 --> 00:26:24,066 MAKE PRAYERS FOR BITTERLY COLD 915 00:26:23,333 --> 00:26:24,833 NETHER WEATHER NEXT WEEK HEADING 916 00:26:24,066 --> 00:26:26,633 TOWARD CHRISTMAS. 917 00:26:24,833 --> 00:26:28,233 FIND THE EXTRA BLANKETS. 918 00:26:26,633 --> 00:26:30,766 GET YOUR PLACE AND YOUR VEHICLE 919 00:26:28,233 --> 00:26:31,633 READY FOR WHAT YOU LOOKS TO BE 920 00:26:30,766 --> 00:26:34,533 THE DEEP FREEZE THAT IS COMING. 921 00:26:31,633 --> 00:26:35,700 THAT IS COMP ON KENTUCKY. 922 00:26:34,533 --> 00:26:37,733 THANK YOU FORE JOINING US. 923 00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:37,733 MAKE IT A GOOD WEEK AHEAD. 924 00:26:41,866 --> 00:26:56,833 ♪ 925 00:26:46,700 --> 00:27:06,866 ♪ 926 00:26:51,733 --> 00:27:06,866 ♪ 927 00:26:56,833 --> 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