1 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:15,000 >> A WEEK OF EMOTIONAL PROTESTS 2 00:00:13,066 --> 00:00:16,866 AND DRAMA ENDS WITH A COUNTY 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,600 CLERK JAILED FOR CONTEMPT OF 4 00:00:16,866 --> 00:00:20,433 COURT AND HER OFFICE NOW ISSUING 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,800 MARRIAGE LICENSES. 6 00:00:20,433 --> 00:00:23,166 THE ISSUE OF SAME-SEX MARRIAGE 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,866 LICENSES MAKES ITS WAY INTO THE 8 00:00:23,166 --> 00:00:25,800 GOVERNOR'S RACE AND LEADS TO 9 00:00:24,866 --> 00:00:28,666 CALLS FOR A SPECIAL LEGISLATIVE 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,433 SESSION. 11 00:00:28,666 --> 00:00:30,600 MORE THAN 30,000 KENTUCKY SCHOOL 12 00:00:29,433 --> 00:00:32,200 STUDENTS ARE CONSIDERED 13 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,800 HOMELESS. 14 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,366 AND IT'S DOWN TO TWO FINALISTS 15 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,933 FOR KENTUCKY EDUCATION 16 00:00:34,366 --> 00:00:37,133 COMMISSIONER. 17 00:00:35,933 --> 00:00:38,633 MANY ARE ON THE MOVE AND SOME 18 00:00:37,133 --> 00:00:39,400 ARE RELAXING FOR THE LABOR DAY 19 00:00:38,633 --> 00:00:41,766 WEEKEND, AND "COMMENT" IS NEXT 20 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,766 ON KET. 21 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:41,766 A week of emotional protests 22 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,400 GOOD EVENING. 23 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,200 I'M BILL BRYANT. 24 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,466 WELCOME TO "COMMENT ON 25 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,533 KENTUCKY," A LOOK BACK AT THE 26 00:00:55,466 --> 00:01:00,133 WEEK'S NEWS IN THE COMMONWEALTH. 27 00:00:57,533 --> 00:01:01,733 OUR GUESTS ARE LAWRENCE SMITH, 28 00:01:00,133 --> 00:01:03,466 REPORTER FOR WDRB-TV IN 29 00:01:01,733 --> 00:01:04,933 LOUISVILLE, BETH MUSGRAVE, 30 00:01:03,466 --> 00:01:06,900 REPORTER FOR THE LEXINGTON 31 00:01:04,933 --> 00:01:08,266 HERALD-LEADER, AND ADAM BEAM, 32 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:11,400 KENTUCKY STATE HOUSE REPORTER 33 00:01:08,266 --> 00:01:13,166 FOR THE ASSOCIATED PRESS. 34 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,933 WELL, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY LOUD 35 00:01:13,166 --> 00:01:17,033 AND EMOTIONAL AND DIVISIVE WEEK 36 00:01:14,933 --> 00:01:19,866 IN KENTUCKY AS OPPOSING CAVED 37 00:01:17,033 --> 00:01:21,133 DUG IN ON THE ISSUE OF SAME-SEX 38 00:01:19,866 --> 00:01:23,866 MARRIAGE,-SPECIFIC SPECIFICALLY 39 00:01:21,133 --> 00:01:24,933 THE ISSUE OF ISSUING LICENSES. 40 00:01:23,866 --> 00:01:27,766 THEN OF THE WEEK A COUNTY CLERK 41 00:01:24,933 --> 00:01:28,066 IS IN JAIL FOR CONTEMPT FEDERAL 42 00:01:27,766 --> 00:01:29,533 COURT. 43 00:01:28,066 --> 00:01:30,266 ROWAN COUNTY ISSUED MARRIAGE 44 00:01:29,533 --> 00:01:31,566 LICENSES TODAY. 45 00:01:30,266 --> 00:01:34,000 ALL THREE OF OUR PANELISTS WERE 46 00:01:31,566 --> 00:01:35,233 IN ASHLAND FOR THAT FEDERAL 47 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,433 COURT HEARING ON THE ISSUE OF 48 00:01:35,233 --> 00:01:37,800 CONTEMPT COURT. 49 00:01:36,433 --> 00:01:39,133 ADAM 1 YOUR ASSOCIATED PRESS 50 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,800 STORIES HAVE BEEN SEEN AROUND 51 00:01:39,133 --> 00:01:41,766 THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD AND I 52 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,166 THINK LAWRENCE YOU HAVE BEEN 53 00:01:41,766 --> 00:01:44,766 SEEN ON VIDEOS AROUND THE 54 00:01:43,166 --> 00:01:46,066 NATION, THE POINT BEING THE 55 00:01:44,766 --> 00:01:48,200 SPOTLIGHT WAS ON KENTUCKY DURING 56 00:01:46,066 --> 00:01:49,566 ALL OF THIS, AND ALL OF YOU WERE 57 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,933 THERE. 58 00:01:49,566 --> 00:01:53,666 BETH, YOU WERE OUTSIDE. 59 00:01:50,933 --> 00:01:55,933 THAT WAS YOUR BEAT ON THAT DAY 60 00:01:53,666 --> 00:01:57,233 TO WHATEVER WHAT WAS GOING ON. 61 00:01:55,933 --> 00:01:59,033 DESCRIBE THAT SCENE. 62 00:01:57,233 --> 00:02:01,266 >> THERE ARE HUNDREDS PROTESTERS 63 00:01:59,033 --> 00:02:02,700 AND DEMONSTRATORS FROM BOTH 64 00:02:01,266 --> 00:02:04,800 SIDES, PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT KIM 65 00:02:02,700 --> 00:02:08,600 DAYS OF, THOSE WHO DID NOT. 66 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:11,033 IT GOT HEATED AT SOME POINTS AND 67 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,933 NOTHING EVERY BECAME PHYSICAL 68 00:02:11,033 --> 00:02:15,800 BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF SHOUTING, 69 00:02:12,933 --> 00:02:18,100 A LOT OF CHANTING THROUGHOUT THE 70 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,566 DAY UNTIL THE JUDGE ISSUED THE 71 00:02:18,100 --> 00:02:21,866 ORDER SENDING DAVIS TO JAIL. 72 00:02:19,566 --> 00:02:23,766 >> WHEN YOU SAY CHANTING AND 73 00:02:21,866 --> 00:02:24,166 YELLING, I MEAN, PEOPLE WERE 74 00:02:23,766 --> 00:02:26,666 LITERALLY -- 75 00:02:24,166 --> 00:02:27,933 >> THEY WERE IN EACH OTHER'S 76 00:02:26,666 --> 00:02:29,366 FACES AT TIMES, AND A LOT OF 77 00:02:27,933 --> 00:02:31,633 TIMES WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WOULD BE 78 00:02:29,366 --> 00:02:34,300 A SIDEWALK PREACHER WOULD COME 79 00:02:31,633 --> 00:02:35,333 OVER AND START LIKE A STORM 80 00:02:34,300 --> 00:02:36,733 SERMON AND SOMEBODY FROM THE 81 00:02:35,333 --> 00:02:39,166 OTHER SIDE WOULD COME OVER AND 82 00:02:36,733 --> 00:02:40,700 START CHANTING IN HIS FACE OR -- 83 00:02:39,166 --> 00:02:41,100 AND THEN THE PREACHER WOULD WALK 84 00:02:40,700 --> 00:02:43,100 AWAY. 85 00:02:41,100 --> 00:02:44,233 LIKE I SAID, IT NEVER REALLY 86 00:02:43,100 --> 00:02:47,400 GOT -- IT WAS VERY PASSIONATE 87 00:02:44,233 --> 00:02:48,200 AND HEATED BUT I NEVER GOT TOO 88 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,866 TERRIBLY TENSE. 89 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,433 >> DID THE PROTESTERS SEEM TO 90 00:02:49,866 --> 00:02:52,866 MAINLY BE FROM KENTUCKY? 91 00:02:51,433 --> 00:02:55,166 DID THEY COME FROM ELSEWHERE? 92 00:02:52,866 --> 00:02:57,866 >> YES, THERE WERE SOME THAT 93 00:02:55,166 --> 00:02:59,833 CAME FROM OUT OF STATE. 94 00:02:57,866 --> 00:03:01,366 THOSE THAT SUPPORT KIM DAVIS, 95 00:02:59,833 --> 00:03:03,066 THEY WERE -- THERE ARE SOME 96 00:03:01,366 --> 00:03:04,233 FOLKS THAT I TALKED TO THAT CAME 97 00:03:03,066 --> 00:03:06,500 FROM NORTH CAROLINA, SOME PEOPLE 98 00:03:04,233 --> 00:03:08,033 WHO HAD COME FROM TEXAS, AND 99 00:03:06,500 --> 00:03:09,900 THERE WERE SOME ALSO ON THE 100 00:03:08,033 --> 00:03:11,033 OTHER SIDE THAT HAD DRIVEN 101 00:03:09,900 --> 00:03:11,333 PRETTY FAR DISTANCES IN ORDER TO 102 00:03:11,033 --> 00:03:12,900 COME. 103 00:03:11,333 --> 00:03:13,633 >> COULD YOU HEAR WELL ENOUGH TO 104 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:13,933 CONDUCT INTERVIEWS AND ALL OF 105 00:03:13,633 --> 00:03:14,166 THAT. 106 00:03:13,933 --> 00:03:14,500 >> 107 00:03:14,166 --> 00:03:15,900 >> YEAH. 108 00:03:14,500 --> 00:03:17,233 >> WE WERE HAVING DIFFICULTY, 109 00:03:15,900 --> 00:03:19,066 YOU KNOW, WE HAD A SPECIAL 110 00:03:17,233 --> 00:03:20,333 REPORT ON WKYT AND WE WERE 111 00:03:19,066 --> 00:03:21,966 TRYING TO HEAR OUR REPORTERS 112 00:03:20,333 --> 00:03:23,300 RELAY THE STORY, AND IT WAS 113 00:03:21,966 --> 00:03:24,366 DIFFICULT TO HEAR THEM FOR THE 114 00:03:23,300 --> 00:03:25,766 SHOUTS OF THE CROWD. 115 00:03:24,366 --> 00:03:26,300 >> DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU WERE 116 00:03:25,766 --> 00:03:27,733 STANDING. 117 00:03:26,300 --> 00:03:28,966 SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AT THE 118 00:03:27,733 --> 00:03:30,733 FEDERAL COURTHOUSE, ON THE LEFT 119 00:03:28,966 --> 00:03:32,500 WAS THE KIM DAVIS SUPPORTERS AND 120 00:03:30,733 --> 00:03:34,566 ON THE RIGHT WERE THE FOLKS THAT 121 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:36,333 OPPOSED HER, AND SO IT WAS RIGHT 122 00:03:34,566 --> 00:03:39,100 IN FRONT OF THE STAIRWELL WHERE 123 00:03:36,333 --> 00:03:40,933 THE TWO SIDES WOULD COMBINED. 124 00:03:39,100 --> 00:03:42,833 SO IF YOU WERE RIGHT THERE IT 125 00:03:40,933 --> 00:03:44,666 BECAME LOUD AND OBNOXIOUS BUT ON 126 00:03:42,833 --> 00:03:44,966 THE RIGHT OR FAR LEFT IT WAS 127 00:03:44,666 --> 00:03:46,800 FINE. 128 00:03:44,966 --> 00:03:48,300 >> ADAM AND LAWRENCE, YOU WERE 129 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,566 BOTH IN THE COURTROOM, AND SO 130 00:03:48,300 --> 00:03:54,600 THAT IS WHERE IT ALL PROCEEDED 131 00:03:51,566 --> 00:03:56,900 THEN, AND JUDGE DAVID BUNNING, 132 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,266 PRESIDED OVER THAT CON DEMENT OF 133 00:03:56,900 --> 00:03:58,833 REPORTER HEARING. 134 00:03:58,266 --> 00:03:59,066 WHAT WAS THAT LIKE. 135 00:03:58,833 --> 00:04:00,866 >> 136 00:03:59,066 --> 00:04:01,400 >> LET ME GO OUTSIDE THE 137 00:04:00,866 --> 00:04:03,333 COURTROOM FIRST. 138 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,833 I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG 139 00:04:03,333 --> 00:04:06,966 TIME, NEVER QUITE SEEN ANYTHING 140 00:04:04,833 --> 00:04:07,733 LIKE THIS, BOTH SIDES 141 00:04:06,966 --> 00:04:09,366 PASSIONATELY BELIEVING THAT 142 00:04:07,733 --> 00:04:10,766 THEY'RE RIGHT AND YELLING AT 143 00:04:09,366 --> 00:04:12,866 EACH OTHER. 144 00:04:10,766 --> 00:04:16,433 IT WAS AMAZING THE NUMBER OF 145 00:04:12,866 --> 00:04:17,766 PEOPLE WHO GOT INVOLVED IN THIS, 146 00:04:16,433 --> 00:04:20,033 BOTH AT THE COURTHOUSE IN 147 00:04:17,766 --> 00:04:21,000 ASHLAND BUT ALSO IN ROWAN 148 00:04:20,033 --> 00:04:21,833 COUNTY. 149 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,233 THERE HAVE BEEN PROTESTERS THERE 150 00:04:21,833 --> 00:04:25,333 FOR DAYS ON BOTH SIDES. 151 00:04:23,233 --> 00:04:26,966 SO THIS HAS TOUCHED A NERVE 152 00:04:25,333 --> 00:04:28,100 AMONG LOTS OF PEOPLE AND BOTH 153 00:04:26,966 --> 00:04:28,466 SIDES ARE TRYING THEIR BEST TO 154 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:31,100 BE HEARD. 155 00:04:28,466 --> 00:04:32,500 >> AND NOW AT THE DETECTION 156 00:04:31,100 --> 00:04:33,900 FACILITY WHERE KIM DAVIS IS 157 00:04:32,500 --> 00:04:36,900 BEING HELD IN CARTER COUNTY IT'S 158 00:04:33,900 --> 00:04:37,166 BEEN THE SITE OF PROVOSTS EVERY 159 00:04:36,900 --> 00:04:38,600 DAY. 160 00:04:37,166 --> 00:04:39,500 >> THERE HAVE BEEN ALREADY AND 161 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,100 THERE BE THERE WILL BE COMING UP 162 00:04:39,500 --> 00:04:41,800 THE NEXT FEW DAYS. 163 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:43,100 >> NOW TO THE PROCEEDINGS AND 164 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,800 WHAT WENT ON THAT DAY. 165 00:04:43,100 --> 00:04:49,366 >> WELL, IT WAS JUST A STUNNING 166 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,566 DECISION FROM JUDGE BUNNING TO 167 00:04:49,366 --> 00:04:52,400 PUT HER IN JAIL. 168 00:04:50,566 --> 00:04:53,600 ALL THE REPORTING WE DID BAND 169 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,100 OF, ALL THE EXPERTS SAID, PELL 170 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,800 YOU WHAT, HE'S NOT GOING TO PUT 171 00:04:55,100 --> 00:04:58,666 HER IN JAIL, PROBABLY FINE LEB 172 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,866 WITH ALL THIS STUFF. 173 00:04:58,666 --> 00:05:02,066 I THINK THERE WAS AN AUDIBLE 174 00:05:00,866 --> 00:05:04,033 GASP FROM THE COURTROOM WHEN HE 175 00:05:02,066 --> 00:05:05,500 DID THAT BUT HIS REASONING, IT 176 00:05:04,033 --> 00:05:07,100 MADE SENSE BECAUSE HE ASKED HER 177 00:05:05,500 --> 00:05:08,233 DIRECTLY, IF I WERE TO FINE YOU, 178 00:05:07,100 --> 00:05:10,466 WILL YOU COMPLY WITH THE ORDER? 179 00:05:08,233 --> 00:05:12,600 HE SAID, MY GOAL HERE IS NOT TO 180 00:05:10,466 --> 00:05:12,966 GET MONEY FOR THE FEDERAL 181 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,200 JUDICIARY. 182 00:05:12,966 --> 00:05:15,133 MY GOAL IS TO GET COMPLIANCE 183 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,666 WITH THIS ORDER THAT I HAVE 184 00:05:15,133 --> 00:05:17,466 ISSUED. 185 00:05:15,666 --> 00:05:18,566 AND IF I WERE TO ISSUE FINES FOR 186 00:05:17,466 --> 00:05:18,866 YOU, WOULD YOU COMPLY WITH THAT 187 00:05:18,566 --> 00:05:20,566 ORDER? 188 00:05:18,866 --> 00:05:21,666 AND SHE SAID NO. 189 00:05:20,566 --> 00:05:22,866 AND HE HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I FEEL 190 00:05:21,666 --> 00:05:24,566 LIKE IF I WERE TO ISSUE THESE 191 00:05:22,866 --> 00:05:26,166 FINES BECAUSE THE GAY COUPLES, 192 00:05:24,566 --> 00:05:27,166 THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR PRISON TIME, 193 00:05:26,166 --> 00:05:28,700 THEY SPECIFICALLY ASKED HIM NOT 194 00:05:27,166 --> 00:05:30,100 TO SENTENCE HER TO JAIL, BUT HE 195 00:05:28,700 --> 00:05:32,500 SAID IF I WERE TO DO THAT, I 196 00:05:30,100 --> 00:05:36,833 DON'T THINK IT WOULD WORK, AND 197 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:38,300 SO HE THEN ORDERED HER FOR 198 00:05:36,833 --> 00:05:39,033 REMANDED TO THE CUSTODY MARSHALS 199 00:05:38,300 --> 00:05:41,433 IS THE WORDING HE USED. 200 00:05:39,033 --> 00:05:43,166 >> AT ONE POINT HE ASKED HERE 201 00:05:41,433 --> 00:05:44,700 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CONTACTING HER 202 00:05:43,166 --> 00:05:45,833 TO HELP PAY HER FINE FROM 203 00:05:44,700 --> 00:05:47,233 OUTSIDE SOURCES, AND SHE SAID 204 00:05:45,833 --> 00:05:49,266 SHE HAS NOT SOLICITED ANYTHING 205 00:05:47,233 --> 00:05:50,333 BUT THAT PEOPLE HAD CONTACT HER 206 00:05:49,266 --> 00:05:50,900 SO THAT MAY HAVE PLAYED A ROLE 207 00:05:50,333 --> 00:05:52,433 AS WELL. 208 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:53,133 ALTHOUGH HE SAID THE FINE IS NOT 209 00:05:52,433 --> 00:05:55,066 GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. 210 00:05:53,133 --> 00:05:56,533 IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP YOU AS 211 00:05:55,066 --> 00:05:59,700 SHE INDICATED SHE SAID SHE WOULD 212 00:05:56,533 --> 00:06:01,366 DO IT ANYWAY, SO HE SAID YOU'RE 213 00:05:59,700 --> 00:06:02,066 IN CUSTODY MAR AND ALWAYS THERE 214 00:06:01,366 --> 00:06:04,733 WAS AN AUDIBLE GASP THERE. 215 00:06:02,066 --> 00:06:05,766 >> AND THEN AFTER HE DID THAT, 216 00:06:04,733 --> 00:06:08,566 THEN HE HAULED UP ALL OF HER 217 00:06:05,766 --> 00:06:10,900 EMPLOYEES AND HE SAID, HE DIDN'T 218 00:06:08,566 --> 00:06:12,233 SAY THIS BUT IT WAS CLEAR, DO 219 00:06:10,900 --> 00:06:13,500 YOU SEE WHAT JUST HAPPENED HERE? 220 00:06:12,233 --> 00:06:14,766 THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU 221 00:06:13,500 --> 00:06:16,233 IF YOU DON'T COMPLY WITH MY 222 00:06:14,766 --> 00:06:17,766 ORDER P AND IT WAS STRESSFUL. 223 00:06:16,233 --> 00:06:18,200 SOME OF THEM WERE SHAKING AND 224 00:06:17,766 --> 00:06:20,966 CRYING. 225 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:23,433 AN HOUR OR SO INTO IT, BUNNING 226 00:06:20,966 --> 00:06:25,633 DECIDED HE WOULD LET KIM DAVIS 227 00:06:23,433 --> 00:06:27,966 OUT OF JAIL IF SHE WOULD AGREE 228 00:06:25,633 --> 00:06:29,066 NOT TO INTERFERE WITH HER 229 00:06:27,966 --> 00:06:29,366 WORKERS FOR COMPLYING WITH HIS 230 00:06:29,066 --> 00:06:30,500 ORDER. 231 00:06:29,366 --> 00:06:31,166 >> NOW, DOES HE BRING HER BACK 232 00:06:30,500 --> 00:06:32,666 TO THE COURTROOM? 233 00:06:31,166 --> 00:06:33,400 >> HE BROUGHT HER BACK TO THE 234 00:06:32,666 --> 00:06:35,100 COURTROOM. 235 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,333 SHE DID NOT ENTER THE COURTROOM. 236 00:06:35,100 --> 00:06:38,366 HER ATTORNEY SAID WE WANT TO 237 00:06:36,333 --> 00:06:39,766 SPEAK WITH HER FIRST, AND THEN 238 00:06:38,366 --> 00:06:41,366 HER ATTORNEYS CAME AND AND SAID, 239 00:06:39,766 --> 00:06:42,633 YOUR HONOR, WE DON'T SEE A 240 00:06:41,366 --> 00:06:43,766 REASON TO BRING HER BACK IN HERE 241 00:06:42,633 --> 00:06:45,733 BECAUSE THE ANSWER IS NO. 242 00:06:43,766 --> 00:06:46,900 HE SAID I DON'T SEE A REASON TO 243 00:06:45,733 --> 00:06:48,500 BRING HER IN, EITHER. 244 00:06:46,900 --> 00:06:48,900 SO SHE BASICALLY REJECTED THAT 245 00:06:48,500 --> 00:06:50,466 OFFER. 246 00:06:48,900 --> 00:06:51,333 AND SHE HAS TESTIFIED -- SHE'S 247 00:06:50,466 --> 00:06:52,033 BEEN VERY CONSISTENT THROUGH 248 00:06:51,333 --> 00:06:53,966 THIS WHOLE THING. 249 00:06:52,033 --> 00:06:55,266 SHE SAID IT DOESN'T MATTER IF 250 00:06:53,966 --> 00:06:56,466 SOMEBODY ELSE DOES WE'LL BE 251 00:06:55,266 --> 00:06:57,833 RIGHT BACK DOESN'T MATTER IF 252 00:06:56,466 --> 00:06:59,300 SOMEBODY ELSE ISSUES IT AND MY 253 00:06:57,833 --> 00:07:01,833 NAME IS NOT EVEN ON IT BECAUSE 254 00:06:59,300 --> 00:07:02,600 UNDER THE LAW THAT LICENSE SAID, 255 00:07:01,833 --> 00:07:04,100 UNDER MY AUTHORITY, AND THAT'S 256 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,766 WHAT SHE CAN'T HAVE, AND THAT'S 257 00:07:04,100 --> 00:07:06,966 THE PROBLEM HERE. 258 00:07:05,766 --> 00:07:09,833 THE ONLY TWAY THAT THEY CAN 259 00:07:06,966 --> 00:07:11,066 CHANGE THAT TO SATISFY HER IS 50 260 00:07:09,833 --> 00:07:13,166 LAW CHANGES. 261 00:07:11,066 --> 00:07:13,866 AND THE ONLY WAY THAT CAN HAPPEN 262 00:07:13,166 --> 00:07:14,833 IS THE STATE LEGISLATURES HAS 263 00:07:13,866 --> 00:07:17,033 GOT TO MEET AND THEY'RE NOT 264 00:07:14,833 --> 00:07:18,100 GOING TO MEET UNTIL JANUARY. 265 00:07:17,033 --> 00:07:19,300 THE DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR STEVE 266 00:07:18,100 --> 00:07:20,133 BESHEAR HAS SAID HE'S NOT GOING 267 00:07:19,300 --> 00:07:21,200 TO CALL THEM BACK. 268 00:07:20,133 --> 00:07:22,533 SO I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AT 269 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,133 A SITUATION WHERE SHE COULD BE 270 00:07:22,533 --> 00:07:25,433 IN JAIL FOR WEEKS OR MONTHS. 271 00:07:24,133 --> 00:07:27,233 >> THE GOVERNOR HAS REPEATEDLY 272 00:07:25,433 --> 00:07:29,733 SAID THAT, THAT HE DOES NOT 273 00:07:27,233 --> 00:07:31,333 INTEND TO CALL A SPECIAL 11:00 274 00:07:29,733 --> 00:07:33,433 SESSION AND YET YOU HAVE THE 275 00:07:31,333 --> 00:07:34,133 DEMOCRATIC HOUSE SPEAKER GREG 276 00:07:33,433 --> 00:07:35,566 STUMBO SAYING HE WOULD LIKE A 277 00:07:34,133 --> 00:07:37,000 SESSION CALLED SO THAT THIS 278 00:07:35,566 --> 00:07:38,800 MATTER COULD BE HANDLED AS WELL 279 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,866 AS THE SENATE REPUBLICAN 280 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,800 LEADERSHIP INCLUDING THE SENATE 281 00:07:40,866 --> 00:07:42,833 PRESIDENT ROBERT STIVERS CALLING 282 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,300 FOR A SPECIAL SESSION. 283 00:07:42,833 --> 00:07:46,466 THEY SAY THEY COULD DO SOMETHING 284 00:07:44,300 --> 00:07:47,466 IN ABOUT FIVE DAYS AND GET OUT 285 00:07:46,466 --> 00:07:49,833 OF TOWN. 286 00:07:47,466 --> 00:07:50,700 IS THERE ANY INDICATION THAT THE 287 00:07:49,833 --> 00:07:51,566 GOVERNOR WILL CHANGE HIS MIND 288 00:07:50,700 --> 00:07:53,300 WHO THAT? 289 00:07:51,566 --> 00:07:55,000 >> THEY REPEATED THAT AGAIN THIS 290 00:07:53,300 --> 00:07:57,000 WEEK, BOTH STIVERS AND STUMBO 291 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,600 SAID THEY WANTED A SPECIAL 292 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,700 SESSION. 293 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,133 STUMBO SAID HE'S TALK TO THE 294 00:07:58,700 --> 00:08:00,733 GOVERNOR. 295 00:07:59,133 --> 00:08:03,000 THE GOVERNOR WILL NOT DO IT. 296 00:08:00,733 --> 00:08:04,866 THE GOVERNOR CITES THE COST, BUT 297 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,366 SAYS IT'S NOT DUSH GUESS HE 298 00:08:04,866 --> 00:08:08,533 DOESN'T CONSIDER IT AN EMERGENCY 299 00:08:06,366 --> 00:08:10,566 THAT THIS CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF 300 00:08:08,533 --> 00:08:10,900 ONCE THE LEGISLATURE CONVENES IN 301 00:08:10,566 --> 00:08:12,066 JANUARY. 302 00:08:10,900 --> 00:08:13,233 >> I WAS SURPRISED BY THAT. 303 00:08:12,066 --> 00:08:13,600 >> SOME THINK IT IS AING 304 00:08:13,233 --> 00:08:14,600 EMERGENCY. 305 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,666 >> I WAS SURPRISED BY THAT. 306 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,733 >> HE ALSO SAID, LOOK WEEK WE 307 00:08:17,666 --> 00:08:19,833 HAVE 117 COUNTY CLERKS THAT HAVE 308 00:08:18,733 --> 00:08:21,600 NO PROBLEM WITH THIS. 309 00:08:19,833 --> 00:08:23,333 SO WHY ARE WE CALLING A SPECIAL 310 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,033 SESSION FOR THREE PEOPLE WHO 311 00:08:23,333 --> 00:08:25,500 HAVE REFUSED TO ISSUE THESE 312 00:08:25,033 --> 00:08:26,400 LICENSES? 313 00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:28,066 THAT DOESN'T MAKE EXPENSE THAT'S 314 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,433 NOT A GOOD IDEA NOR THE 315 00:08:28,066 --> 00:08:30,700 TAXPAYERS. 316 00:08:28,433 --> 00:08:32,333 >> DOES -- YOU SAID WE DON'T 317 00:08:30,700 --> 00:08:34,400 KNOW HOW LONG THIS WILL LAST. 318 00:08:32,333 --> 00:08:36,333 DOES NUB KNOW HOW LONG CLERK 319 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,633 DAVIS IS PREPARED TO STAY BEHIND 320 00:08:36,333 --> 00:08:38,833 BARS? 321 00:08:36,633 --> 00:08:41,066 >> I TALKED TO HER HUSBAND 322 00:08:38,833 --> 00:08:42,400 TODAY, JOE DAVIS, AND HE SAID 323 00:08:41,066 --> 00:08:44,833 IT'S NEFFTABLE THAT SHE'S NOT 324 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,300 GOING TO CHANGE HER MIND AND 325 00:08:44,833 --> 00:08:46,966 SHE'LL STAY THERE AS LONG AS SHE 326 00:08:46,300 --> 00:08:48,166 NEEDS TO STAY THERE. 327 00:08:46,966 --> 00:08:50,533 THERE'S NO TIME LIMIT ON THIS. 328 00:08:48,166 --> 00:08:51,700 SHE'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE HER 329 00:08:50,533 --> 00:08:53,666 MIND ACCORDING TO HER HUSBAND 330 00:08:51,700 --> 00:08:54,433 AND ACCORDING TO HER ATTORNEYS, 331 00:08:53,666 --> 00:08:55,666 SO THIS COULD BE DRAGGED OUTING 332 00:08:54,433 --> 00:08:57,000 FOR A LONG TIME. 333 00:08:55,666 --> 00:08:57,866 AS ADAM SAID WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK 334 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,500 COULD BE UNTIL THE LAW IS 335 00:08:57,866 --> 00:09:01,300 CHANGED. 336 00:08:58,500 --> 00:09:03,066 >> THE COUNTY SAID, TOO, THAT 337 00:09:01,300 --> 00:09:04,233 SHE'S IN ISOLATION IN THIS JAIL 338 00:09:03,066 --> 00:09:05,533 CELL AT THE CARTER COUNTY 339 00:09:04,233 --> 00:09:07,100 DETENTION CENTER WITH HER BIBLE 340 00:09:05,533 --> 00:09:08,666 AND SHE'S READING HER BIBLE AND 341 00:09:07,100 --> 00:09:10,066 SHE SAID -- THEY SAID SHE WAS IN 342 00:09:08,666 --> 00:09:11,266 GREAT SPIRITS AND SHE SAID ALL 343 00:09:10,066 --> 00:09:13,466 IS WELL. 344 00:09:11,266 --> 00:09:13,800 SHE KEPT SAYING THAT OVER AND 345 00:09:13,466 --> 00:09:15,500 OVER. 346 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,366 SHE SEEMS PREPARED TO STAY. 347 00:09:15,500 --> 00:09:19,233 >> AS POINTED OUT FIVE OR SIX 348 00:09:17,366 --> 00:09:20,700 DEPUTIES AGREED TO ISSUE 349 00:09:19,233 --> 00:09:22,100 LICENSES AND THEY USED SOME 350 00:09:20,700 --> 00:09:23,700 VERSION OF A LICENSE THAT WAS 351 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:25,033 ISSUED THAT I THINK YOU GOT A 352 00:09:23,700 --> 00:09:28,033 LOOK AT TODAY, LAWRENCE, AND YOU 353 00:09:25,033 --> 00:09:28,433 DID NOT SEE HER NAME ON THAT 354 00:09:28,033 --> 00:09:29,166 CERTIFICATE. 355 00:09:28,433 --> 00:09:31,500 >> RIGHT. 356 00:09:29,166 --> 00:09:33,300 I PERSONALLY SAW THREE PEOPLE, 357 00:09:31,500 --> 00:09:35,466 THREE COUPLES PICK UP THEIR 358 00:09:33,300 --> 00:09:37,000 LICENSES, AND I SAW WITH IT MY 359 00:09:35,466 --> 00:09:39,333 OWN EYES ONE OF THOSE LICENSES, 360 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,833 AND THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS 361 00:09:39,333 --> 00:09:43,133 OBTAINED BY APRIL MILLER AND 362 00:09:40,833 --> 00:09:43,833 KAREN ROBERTS WHO ARE TWO OF THE 363 00:09:43,133 --> 00:09:45,833 PLAINTIFFS IN THE, AND I THAT 364 00:09:43,833 --> 00:09:46,733 LICENSE DID NOT CONTAIN THE NAME 365 00:09:45,833 --> 00:09:49,133 OF KIM DAVIS. 366 00:09:46,733 --> 00:09:50,100 IT CONTAINED BRIAN MASON'S NAME 367 00:09:49,133 --> 00:09:51,433 WHO IS THE DEPUTY CLERK WHO 368 00:09:50,100 --> 00:09:52,900 ISSUED ALL THREE OF THOSE 369 00:09:51,433 --> 00:09:55,133 LICENSES BUT DID IT NOT CONTAIN 370 00:09:52,900 --> 00:09:57,200 THAT I COULD SEE AND APRIL 371 00:09:55,133 --> 00:09:58,933 MILLER READ THE ENTIRE THING 372 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,100 PRACTICALLY, WE COULD NOT SEE OR 373 00:09:58,933 --> 00:10:01,600 FIND KIM DAVIS' NAME ON THAT. 374 00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:03,466 >> AND DAVIS' ATTORNEYS HAVE 375 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,066 SAID SINCE THEN THAT THAT 376 00:10:03,466 --> 00:10:07,500 LICENSE IS NOT, QUOTE, NOT WORTH 377 00:10:05,066 --> 00:10:09,133 THE PAPER IT'S WRITTEN ON. 378 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:09,900 THEY SAID SHE HAS REFUSED TO 379 00:10:09,133 --> 00:10:11,100 GIVE THEY ARE AUTHORITY FOR 380 00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:13,166 THOSE LICENSES, AND THOSE 381 00:10:11,100 --> 00:10:15,133 LICENSES ARE VOID. 382 00:10:13,166 --> 00:10:17,166 NOW, CECIL WATKINS, THE COUNTY 383 00:10:15,133 --> 00:10:18,600 ATTORNEY, DISAGREES WITH THAT. 384 00:10:17,166 --> 00:10:20,500 HE SAYS THEY ARE LEGAL. 385 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,300 THE GAY COUPLES' ATTORNEYS SAY 386 00:10:20,500 --> 00:10:23,766 THEY ARE VALID AND LEGAL. 387 00:10:22,300 --> 00:10:25,233 DAVID BUNNING THE JUNG SAID SHE 388 00:10:23,766 --> 00:10:25,766 DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY ARE LEGAL OR 389 00:10:25,233 --> 00:10:27,100 NOT. 390 00:10:25,766 --> 00:10:28,200 HE DIDN'T CARE. 391 00:10:27,100 --> 00:10:30,033 HE JUST WANTS THEM TO BE ISSUED. 392 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,233 >> THIS IS MOVING ITS WAY TO THE 393 00:10:30,033 --> 00:10:33,300 CAMPAIGN TRAIL AS WELL DURING 394 00:10:31,233 --> 00:10:34,266 THIS STATEWIDE ELECTION YEAR. 395 00:10:33,300 --> 00:10:40,133 REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FOR 396 00:10:34,266 --> 00:10:41,266 GOVERNOR MATT BEVIN IS DURING 397 00:10:40,133 --> 00:10:42,633 ADJUSTING HELP HE'S ASKING 398 00:10:41,266 --> 00:10:43,866 GOVERNOR BESHEAR TO DO IT BUT 399 00:10:42,633 --> 00:10:45,666 SAID HE WOULD DO IT IMMEDIATELY 400 00:10:43,866 --> 00:10:47,300 IF HE IS ELECTED GOVERNOR. 401 00:10:45,666 --> 00:10:48,633 >> HE SAID HE WOULD DO THAT AND 402 00:10:47,300 --> 00:10:50,533 HE IS ON THE SIDE OF KIM DAVIS. 403 00:10:48,633 --> 00:10:50,966 HE HAS NOT BEEN ON CAMERA SAYING 404 00:10:50,533 --> 00:10:53,300 THAT. 405 00:10:50,966 --> 00:10:54,466 PERHAPS A MISSED DIDN'T YOU FOR 406 00:10:53,300 --> 00:10:55,566 HIM ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL BUT HE 407 00:10:54,466 --> 00:10:58,633 HAS ISSUED A STATEMENT SAYING HE 408 00:10:55,566 --> 00:10:59,566 IS ON HER SIDE AND WOULD MAKE 409 00:10:58,633 --> 00:11:00,766 CHANGES IMMEDIATELY UPON BEING 410 00:10:59,566 --> 00:11:02,933 ELECTED GOVERNOR. 411 00:11:00,766 --> 00:11:04,600 >> AND DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE JACK 412 00:11:02,933 --> 00:11:06,500 CONWAY HAS NOT COMMENTED MUCH 413 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,233 EXCEPT TO SAY IT IS A NATION OF 414 00:11:06,500 --> 00:11:09,300 LAWS. 415 00:11:08,233 --> 00:11:11,233 A FEDERAL JINX ORDER HAS TO BE 416 00:11:09,300 --> 00:11:12,733 FOLLOWED, HE SAID, AND HE HAS 417 00:11:11,233 --> 00:11:14,333 ALSO INDICATED, THOUGH, HE COULD 418 00:11:12,733 --> 00:11:16,300 ALSO SUPPORT AN APPROACH THAT 419 00:11:14,333 --> 00:11:17,233 REMOVES THE LOCAL CLERK'S NAME 420 00:11:16,300 --> 00:11:17,733 FROM THE LICENSE, RIGHT? 421 00:11:17,233 --> 00:11:18,700 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 422 00:11:17,733 --> 00:11:20,900 THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO 423 00:11:18,700 --> 00:11:22,200 OF THEM, BETWEEN CONWAY AND 424 00:11:20,900 --> 00:11:23,533 BEVIN IS THAT BENCH SAYS IT IS 425 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,933 UTTERLY RIDICULOUS THAT SHE IS 426 00:11:23,533 --> 00:11:27,366 IN JAIL AND CONWAY SAID SHE 427 00:11:25,933 --> 00:11:27,666 DISOBEYED A FEDERAL JUDGE'S 428 00:11:27,366 --> 00:11:30,000 ORDER. 429 00:11:27,666 --> 00:11:31,800 THIS IS THE CONSEQUENCES. 430 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,333 NORMALLY YOU THINK AN ISSUE LIKE 431 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,400 THIS WOULD REALLY BENEFIT. 432 00:11:33,333 --> 00:11:35,700 REPUBLICAN, BENEFIT BEVIN, BUT 433 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,033 IT ALSO KIND OF EXPOSES I THINK 434 00:11:35,700 --> 00:11:39,633 A WEAKNESS OF HIS CAMPAIGN IN 435 00:11:38,033 --> 00:11:40,766 THAT SHE -- HE SHOULD BE UP ON 436 00:11:39,633 --> 00:11:42,766 STATEWIDE TV NOW. 437 00:11:40,766 --> 00:11:43,900 HE SHOULD HAVE ADS UP ERRWHERE 438 00:11:42,766 --> 00:11:46,300 AND HE DOESN'T YET I DON'T KNOW 439 00:11:43,900 --> 00:11:47,466 IF THAT'S BECAUSE HE HASN'T 440 00:11:46,300 --> 00:11:49,166 RAISED THE MONEY FOR IT OR WHAT 441 00:11:47,466 --> 00:11:51,133 BUT IT SEEMS LIKE HE'S MISSING A 442 00:11:49,166 --> 00:11:51,700 CHANCE TO GET OUT THERE AND GET 443 00:11:51,133 --> 00:11:53,533 IN FRONT OF THIS. 444 00:11:51,700 --> 00:11:55,500 >> HE DID RELEASE A STATEMENT 445 00:11:53,533 --> 00:11:56,400 AND ALSO A TELEPHONE CONFERENCE. 446 00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:58,266 THAT'S ALL HE'S DONE. 447 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,366 >> LIKE YOU SAID, HE'S NOT AGAIN 448 00:11:58,266 --> 00:11:59,900 BEEN IF FRONT OF YOUR CAMERA TO 449 00:11:59,366 --> 00:12:01,100 TALK ABOUT IT. 450 00:11:59,900 --> 00:12:01,966 >> WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS IN 451 00:12:01,100 --> 00:12:04,233 THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S CASE 452 00:12:01,966 --> 00:12:05,633 WHERE THIS REPUBLICAN NOMINEES 453 00:12:04,233 --> 00:12:07,366 WHITNEY WESTERFIELD AND THE 454 00:12:05,633 --> 00:12:08,800 DEMOCRATY IS ANDY BESHEAR, THE 455 00:12:07,366 --> 00:12:10,600 SON OF GOVERNOR? 456 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,366 >> A LOT OF THE PROTESTERS 457 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,366 YESTERDAY SAID THEY WOULD TAKE 458 00:12:12,366 --> 00:12:16,400 THIS OUT ON ANDY BESHEAR BUT 459 00:12:14,366 --> 00:12:17,433 THERE'S A REAL QUESTION WITH 460 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,233 ABOUT ABOUT THE WHETHER THOSE 461 00:12:17,433 --> 00:12:20,066 PROTESTERS WOULD VOTE FOR ANDY 462 00:12:19,233 --> 00:12:22,033 BESHEAR IN THE FIRST PLACE. 463 00:12:20,066 --> 00:12:23,933 I SEE THIS AS AN ISSUE THAT'S 464 00:12:22,033 --> 00:12:25,733 DEFINITELY GOING TO COME UP IN 465 00:12:23,933 --> 00:12:26,266 THAT RACE BETWEEN WESTERFIELD 466 00:12:25,733 --> 00:12:28,066 AND ANDY BESHEAR. 467 00:12:26,266 --> 00:12:28,866 >> THIS IS ALSO MOVED ITS WAY 468 00:12:28,066 --> 00:12:30,433 INTO THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE. 469 00:12:28,866 --> 00:12:31,766 THIS HAS BEEN PAY NATIONAL STORY 470 00:12:30,433 --> 00:12:33,733 ALL WEEK AS WEAVE SAID. 471 00:12:31,766 --> 00:12:34,833 WE UNDERSTAND THAT FORMER 472 00:12:33,733 --> 00:12:36,666 ARKANSAS GOVERNOR MIKE HUCKABEE 473 00:12:34,833 --> 00:12:39,166 IS COMING TO KENTUCKY NEXT WEEK. 474 00:12:36,666 --> 00:12:40,966 >> YEAH, AT LEAST THREE OF THE 475 00:12:39,166 --> 00:12:43,966 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES HAVE 476 00:12:40,966 --> 00:12:47,666 INDICATED SUPPORT FOR KIM DAVIS. 477 00:12:43,966 --> 00:12:51,066 MIKE HUCKABEE HAS, RON CALL -- 478 00:12:47,666 --> 00:12:51,333 RAND PAUL HAS, AND ONE OTHER 479 00:12:51,066 --> 00:12:52,133 ONE. 480 00:12:51,333 --> 00:12:54,800 >> YOU CAN'T REMEMBER, EITHER. 481 00:12:52,133 --> 00:12:55,100 >> IT WILL COME TO ME. 482 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,066 BUT -- 483 00:12:55,100 --> 00:12:58,100 >> TED CRUZ I THINK. 484 00:12:57,066 --> 00:12:59,633 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 485 00:12:58,100 --> 00:13:01,000 BUT HUCKABEE IS COMING TO 486 00:12:59,633 --> 00:13:02,766 KENTUCKY ON TUESDAY. 487 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,600 WE DON'T KNOW WHEN OR EXACTLY 488 00:13:02,766 --> 00:13:05,800 WHAT FORM IT IS GOING TO TAKE 489 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,066 BUT HE'S COMING IN SUPPORT OF 490 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,200 HER. 491 00:13:06,066 --> 00:13:09,266 >> I THINK HE INDICATED THAT 492 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,033 HE'S GOING TO MEET WITH HER OR 493 00:13:09,266 --> 00:13:11,333 TRYING TO. 494 00:13:10,033 --> 00:13:12,400 I THINK HE IS GOING TO TRY TO 495 00:13:11,333 --> 00:13:13,933 ACTUALLY MEET WITH HER IN THE 496 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,266 JAIL AND THEN COME OUT AND HAVE 497 00:13:13,933 --> 00:13:16,566 A RALLY. 498 00:13:14,266 --> 00:13:17,933 >> BOBBY JINDAL, THE LOUISIANA 499 00:13:16,566 --> 00:13:18,666 GOVERNOR, ALSO GAVE HIS SUPPORT 500 00:13:17,933 --> 00:13:19,466 IN THAT. 501 00:13:18,666 --> 00:13:20,400 ALL RIGHT. 502 00:13:19,466 --> 00:13:22,266 WELL, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS AN ISSUE 503 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,300 THAT IS GOING TO CONTINUE, AND 504 00:13:22,266 --> 00:13:26,733 WE'LL SEE WHERE IT ALL GOES. 505 00:13:24,300 --> 00:13:28,400 BETH, YOU HAVE DONE AN EXTENSIVE 506 00:13:26,733 --> 00:13:30,600 PIECE ABOUT HOMELESS SCHOOL 507 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,966 STUDENTS IN KENTUCKY NUMBERING 508 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,400 MORE THAN 30,000. 509 00:13:31,966 --> 00:13:35,833 WE APPARENTLY HAVE THE HIGHEST 510 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,233 RATE IN THIS COUNTRY OF STUDENTS 511 00:13:35,833 --> 00:13:38,933 WHO ARE GOING TO SCHOOL WHO 512 00:13:37,233 --> 00:13:40,700 DON'T HAVE A REGULAR PLACE TO GO 513 00:13:38,933 --> 00:13:42,600 HOME AT NIGHT. 514 00:13:40,700 --> 00:13:46,700 >> YEAH, RIGHT NOW IT'S RUNNING 515 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:47,900 AT ABOUT 5%, AND IN SOME 516 00:13:46,700 --> 00:13:50,500 COUNTIES IN EASTERN KENTUCKY 517 00:13:47,900 --> 00:13:52,333 IT'S BASICALLY ONE IN FIVE 518 00:13:50,500 --> 00:13:53,466 STUDENTS, AND SO -- AND IT HAS 519 00:13:52,333 --> 00:13:55,166 NEARLY DOUBLED IN THE LAST SIX 520 00:13:53,466 --> 00:13:56,466 OR SEVEN YEARS, AND THEY THINK 521 00:13:55,166 --> 00:13:58,266 THAT ONE OF THE REASONS BEHIND 522 00:13:56,466 --> 00:14:01,833 THE INCREASE IS BOTH THE 523 00:13:58,266 --> 00:14:03,900 RECESSION AND LOSS OF JOBS, BUT 524 00:14:01,833 --> 00:14:05,166 A LOT OF IT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH 525 00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:07,100 KENTUCKY'S HIGH RATE OF 526 00:14:05,166 --> 00:14:07,900 ADDICTION THAT HAS SORT OF 527 00:14:07,100 --> 00:14:09,800 DECIMATED FAMILY UNITS. 528 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:11,633 A LOT OF KIDS THAT ARE BEING 529 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,900 BOUNCED FROM FEY FAMILY MEMBER 530 00:14:11,633 --> 00:14:15,066 TO FAMILY MEMBER ON TO FAMILY 531 00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:16,633 MEMBER WHICH TECHNICAL UNDER 532 00:14:15,066 --> 00:14:17,000 THAT DEFINITION THAT COUNTS AS 533 00:14:16,633 --> 00:14:18,100 HOMELESS. 534 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,000 >> OR THEY'VE BEEN REMOVED FROM 535 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:19,966 THE HOME BY THE COURT. 536 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,266 >> OR BEEN REMOVED FROM THE 537 00:14:19,966 --> 00:14:21,866 HOME. 538 00:14:20,266 --> 00:14:22,500 >> HOW ARE STUDENTS CLASSIFIED 539 00:14:21,866 --> 00:14:24,533 AS HOMELESS? 540 00:14:22,500 --> 00:14:25,433 >> WELL, UNDER THE FEDERAL 541 00:14:24,533 --> 00:14:27,066 DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION 542 00:14:25,433 --> 00:14:28,266 DEFINITION OF HOMELESSNESS IS 543 00:14:27,066 --> 00:14:30,566 ANYONE WHO IS LIVING ON THE 544 00:14:28,266 --> 00:14:32,733 STREET, IN A SHELTER, IN A CAR, 545 00:14:30,566 --> 00:14:34,066 IN A HOTEL OR MOTEL OR IF 546 00:14:32,733 --> 00:14:36,233 THEY'RE LIVING WITH WHAT'S 547 00:14:34,066 --> 00:14:37,333 CALLED DOUBLED UP, SO IF, FOR 548 00:14:36,233 --> 00:14:39,166 EXAMPLE, YOUR FAMILY LOSES THEIR 549 00:14:37,333 --> 00:14:41,033 HOUSE AND YOU MOVE IN WITH YOUR 550 00:14:39,166 --> 00:14:42,233 GRANDMOTHER OR ANOTHER FAMILY 551 00:14:41,033 --> 00:14:43,166 MEMBER THEN YOU'RE CONSIDERED 552 00:14:42,233 --> 00:14:44,666 HOMELESS AS WELL, SO THAT'S 553 00:14:43,166 --> 00:14:45,733 WHERE YOU SEE THE BIG GROWTH 554 00:14:44,666 --> 00:14:46,066 NUMBERS IS IN THAT DOUBLE UP 555 00:14:45,733 --> 00:14:47,700 NUMBER. 556 00:14:46,066 --> 00:14:48,200 >> ARE THERE ANY PROPOSED 557 00:14:47,700 --> 00:14:51,600 SOLUTIONS? 558 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:53,400 I KNOW YOU INTERVIEWED OUT OF 559 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,933 PIKE COUNTY I THINK IT WAS WHERE 560 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,566 THERE HAD BEEN A STUDENT WHO 561 00:14:54,933 --> 00:14:59,600 JUST GRADUATED THIS YEAR WHO 562 00:14:56,566 --> 00:15:00,333 THERE WAS A HELPFUL SCHOOL FOUR 563 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,533 WHO GOT INVOLVED. 564 00:15:00,333 --> 00:15:03,533 >> RIGHT. 565 00:15:01,533 --> 00:15:05,333 WELL, WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY 566 00:15:03,533 --> 00:15:07,900 THAT KENTUCKY NEEDS MORE OF ARE 567 00:15:05,333 --> 00:15:10,500 ACTUALLY HOMELESS EDUCATION 568 00:15:07,900 --> 00:15:11,766 COORDINATORS WHO CAN DEVOTE 569 00:15:10,500 --> 00:15:14,200 FULL-TIME TO THE EDUCATION OF 570 00:15:11,766 --> 00:15:15,533 THOSE HOMELESS STUDENTS AND ONLY 571 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,666 EIGHT SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN 572 00:15:15,533 --> 00:15:19,733 KENTUCKY ACTUALLY HAVE FULL-TIME 573 00:15:17,666 --> 00:15:20,966 HOMELESS EDUCATION COORDINATORS. 574 00:15:19,733 --> 00:15:22,866 SO PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A 575 00:15:20,966 --> 00:15:23,766 WHO THE MORE OF THOSE DESIGNATED 576 00:15:22,866 --> 00:15:24,800 FOR EACH DISTRICT AND, OF 577 00:15:23,766 --> 00:15:26,166 COURSE, MORE MONEY WOULD ALWAYS 578 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,800 HELP BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY ONLY 579 00:15:26,166 --> 00:15:28,300 HAVE FEDERAL FUNDING FOR 580 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,866 HOMELESS STUDENTS. 581 00:15:28,300 --> 00:15:32,033 >> THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE 582 00:15:29,866 --> 00:15:34,066 OBVIOUSLY THAT UNSTABLE 583 00:15:32,033 --> 00:15:36,100 SITUATION IS DIFFICULT FOR THEM 584 00:15:34,066 --> 00:15:38,866 TO LEARN AND THRIVE IN SCHOOL. 585 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:40,400 >> WELL, THE TEST SCORES BOTH 586 00:15:38,866 --> 00:15:41,400 FROM FAYETTE COUNTY AND 587 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,466 STATEWIDE SHOW BASICALLY IF 588 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:46,666 YOU'RE HOMELESS, THAT IS ONE OF 589 00:15:44,466 --> 00:15:48,200 THE MAIN REASONS WHY YOU FAIL AT 590 00:15:46,666 --> 00:15:50,100 SCHOOL, AND THE DROPOUT OF 591 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:53,200 SCHOOL. 592 00:15:50,100 --> 00:15:54,766 >> WELL, ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO 593 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,233 WILL BE ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE 594 00:15:54,766 --> 00:15:57,500 AND OTHERS IS ABOUT TO BE 595 00:15:56,233 --> 00:15:59,866 CHOSEN. 596 00:15:57,500 --> 00:16:01,233 WE'RE DOWN TO TWO FINAL ITS 597 00:15:59,866 --> 00:16:02,066 LOOKS LIKE, LAWRENCE, FOR 598 00:16:01,233 --> 00:16:03,366 KENTUCKY EDUCATION COMMISSIONER. 599 00:16:02,066 --> 00:16:05,633 WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THEM? 600 00:16:03,366 --> 00:16:07,233 >> OUR WDRB EDUCATION REPORTER 601 00:16:05,633 --> 00:16:09,633 TONY CANNES HAS BEEN TRACKING 602 00:16:07,233 --> 00:16:11,666 THIS DOWN, AND BY PROCESS OF 603 00:16:09,633 --> 00:16:12,033 ELIMINATION SHE'S GOTTEN TWO 604 00:16:11,666 --> 00:16:13,266 FINALISTS. 605 00:16:12,033 --> 00:16:15,200 I'M GOING TO READ THEIR NAMES 606 00:16:13,266 --> 00:16:17,133 BECAUSE THIS IS HER REPORTING. 607 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,200 STEVEN PROSTITUTE IS A FORMER 608 00:16:17,133 --> 00:16:20,266 JUDGE OF DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION 609 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,366 OFFICIAL NOW WITH A NON-PROFIT 610 00:16:20,266 --> 00:16:23,333 REFORM ORGANIZATION, AND 611 00:16:21,366 --> 00:16:24,633 CHRISTOPHER COOK, WHO IS FROM 612 00:16:23,333 --> 00:16:27,200 ILLINOIS, INTERIM PRESIDENT OF 613 00:16:24,633 --> 00:16:27,833 THE COUNCIL FOR ACCREDITATION OF 614 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,600 EDUCATION PREPARATION -- 615 00:16:27,833 --> 00:16:31,400 WHATEVER THAT IS -- BUT BOTH ARE 616 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,800 BASED IN WASHINGTON, AND SO 617 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,266 THOSE ARE THE TWO FINALISTS 618 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,366 APPARENTLY, AND THERE WAS ONLY 619 00:16:34,266 --> 00:16:37,966 ONE KENTUCKIAN EVEN IN THE HUNT 620 00:16:36,366 --> 00:16:40,466 AS FAR AS THE FINAL FIVE, AND 621 00:16:37,966 --> 00:16:42,733 THAT WAS BUDDY BARRY WHO IS 622 00:16:40,466 --> 00:16:44,466 SUPERINTENDENT OF THE VERY 623 00:16:42,733 --> 00:16:47,600 ACCLAIMED SCHOOL SYSTEM IN 624 00:16:44,466 --> 00:16:48,533 EMINENCE BUT IT APPEARS TO TWO 625 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,800 WASHINGTON-BASED INDIVIDUALS ARE 626 00:16:48,533 --> 00:16:50,166 THE FINALISTS NOW FOR THAT 627 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,700 POSITION. 628 00:16:50,166 --> 00:16:53,233 >> DO YOU THINK THE SEARCH WAS 629 00:16:51,700 --> 00:16:54,466 COMPLICATED BY THE FACT THAT 630 00:16:53,233 --> 00:16:55,466 TERRY WHO WILL A-DAY'S 631 00:16:54,466 --> 00:16:57,066 RETIREMENT HAS COME IN THE 632 00:16:55,466 --> 00:16:58,833 MIDDLE OF THE STATEWIDE ELECTION 633 00:16:57,066 --> 00:17:00,933 YEAR WHEN THE GOVERNOR'S GOING 634 00:16:58,833 --> 00:17:02,300 TO BE CHOSEN AND THE DIRECTION 635 00:17:00,933 --> 00:17:03,133 OF EDUCATION IN THE STATE COULD 636 00:17:02,300 --> 00:17:05,066 GO IN DIFFERENT WAYS? 637 00:17:03,133 --> 00:17:07,366 >> ABSOLUTELY, I BELIEVE THAT'S 638 00:17:05,066 --> 00:17:09,100 A FACTOR BECAUSE IF MATT BEVIN 639 00:17:07,366 --> 00:17:12,133 WINS, HE HAS PROMISED SOME 640 00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:14,166 SWEEPING REFORMS IN EDUCATION 641 00:17:12,133 --> 00:17:16,733 FROM EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION 642 00:17:14,166 --> 00:17:17,500 TO COLLEGE EDUCATION, 643 00:17:16,733 --> 00:17:18,766 EXPERIMENTING WITH DIFFERENT 644 00:17:17,500 --> 00:17:20,800 KINDS OF SCHOOLS, SO THIS 645 00:17:18,766 --> 00:17:22,500 CERTAINLY HAS AN IMPACT, THIS 646 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,100 PROSPECT OF A NEW GOVERNOR, 647 00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:26,266 ESPECIALLY IF IT'S REPUBLICAN 648 00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:26,933 MATT BEVIN, ON THE WORK OF THIS 649 00:17:26,266 --> 00:17:29,233 NEW EDUCATION COMMISSIONER. 650 00:17:26,933 --> 00:17:30,966 >> AND THIS COMMISSIONER WILL 651 00:17:29,233 --> 00:17:34,266 COME INTO OFFICE AND MEL FACE 652 00:17:30,966 --> 00:17:35,533 THAT CHANGE IN GOVERNOR WITHIN A 653 00:17:34,266 --> 00:17:35,933 MONTH OR TWO? 654 00:17:35,533 --> 00:17:36,666 POTENTIALLY. 655 00:17:35,933 --> 00:17:37,233 YES WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WILL BE 656 00:17:36,666 --> 00:17:38,400 CHANGED. 657 00:17:37,233 --> 00:17:39,433 MOUCH HOW MUCH OF A CHANGE WILL 658 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,966 BE DEPENDS ON WHO WINS. 659 00:17:39,433 --> 00:17:45,100 >> WE DON'T KNOW THE TIME FRAME 660 00:17:42,966 --> 00:17:47,666 EXACTLY WHEN THE STATE BOARD OF 661 00:17:45,100 --> 00:17:48,166 EDUCATION WILL -- THEY'RE DOING 662 00:17:47,666 --> 00:17:49,233 BACKGROUND CHECKS. 663 00:17:48,166 --> 00:17:50,933 >> VERY STEFAN. 664 00:17:49,233 --> 00:17:53,700 THEY HAD ONE PREVIOUS MISCUE 665 00:17:50,933 --> 00:17:54,133 BEFORE THEY CHOSE THE CURRENT 666 00:17:53,700 --> 00:17:56,566 COMMISSIONER. 667 00:17:54,133 --> 00:17:58,466 >> ADAM YOU COVERED AN EVENT 668 00:17:56,566 --> 00:17:59,600 THIS YEAR WHERE THERE WAS TALK 669 00:17:58,466 --> 00:18:02,133 OF FIBER AND FASTER INTERNET 670 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,600 BEING AN ANSWER TO EASTERN 671 00:18:02,133 --> 00:18:04,366 KENTUCKY'S WOES OF THE ECONOMIES 672 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,366 SPECIFICALLY WITH THE PRODUCTION 673 00:18:04,366 --> 00:18:08,466 OF COAL, WHICH IS SO DOWN AT 674 00:18:06,366 --> 00:18:08,733 THIS POINT FROM OF SOME YEARS 675 00:18:08,466 --> 00:18:09,933 AGO. 676 00:18:08,733 --> 00:18:11,733 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 677 00:18:09,933 --> 00:18:12,733 TO ME THIS IS A REALLY 678 00:18:11,733 --> 00:18:14,833 FASCINATING STORY BECAUSE YOU 679 00:18:12,733 --> 00:18:15,833 LOOK AT EASTERN KENTUCKY WHERE 680 00:18:14,833 --> 00:18:16,966 SO MANY PEOPLE, THOUSANDS OF 681 00:18:15,833 --> 00:18:18,066 PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS 682 00:18:16,966 --> 00:18:20,266 BECAUSE OF THE DECLINE THE IN 683 00:18:18,066 --> 00:18:22,700 COAL INDUSTRY AND THERE'S BEEN 684 00:18:20,266 --> 00:18:24,633 NOTHING COME IN TO REPLACE THAT 685 00:18:22,700 --> 00:18:25,333 YET AND POLITICIANS, 686 00:18:24,633 --> 00:18:27,233 ENTREPRENEURS, EVERYBODY HAS 687 00:18:25,333 --> 00:18:30,066 BEEN TRYING ON COMING UP WITH 688 00:18:27,233 --> 00:18:32,266 SOMETHING REPLACE THAT, AND THE 689 00:18:30,066 --> 00:18:32,833 SOLUTION THEY THINK IS HIGH 690 00:18:32,266 --> 00:18:34,100 SPEED ♪. 691 00:18:32,833 --> 00:18:35,933 AND KENTUCKY AS A STATE, EASTERN 692 00:18:34,100 --> 00:18:37,800 KENTUCKY IN PARTICULAR, DREADFUL 693 00:18:35,933 --> 00:18:38,900 RATES, DREADFUL ACCESS TO HIGH 694 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,733 SPEED INTERNET. 695 00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:42,333 THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT INTERNET 696 00:18:40,733 --> 00:18:44,666 THAT'S FAST TOUGH TO SUN EVER 697 00:18:42,333 --> 00:18:46,400 SUSTAIN COMPANIES THAT DO HIGHER 698 00:18:44,666 --> 00:18:47,433 TECHNOLOGIC WORK. 699 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,500 SO KENTUCKY JUST KICKED OFF 700 00:18:47,433 --> 00:18:51,266 CONSTRUCTION FOR SOMETHING LIKE 701 00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:51,933 3,400 MILES OF FIBEROPTIC 702 00:18:51,266 --> 00:18:53,933 CABLES. 703 00:18:51,933 --> 00:18:55,866 THESE TINY CABLES THAT ARE 704 00:18:53,933 --> 00:18:57,700 UNDERGROUND THAT CAN CARRY 705 00:18:55,866 --> 00:18:58,400 INFORMATION AT SPEEDS 30 TIMES 706 00:18:57,700 --> 00:18:59,800 FASTER THAN WHAT THEY HAVE 707 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,366 ACCESS TO RIGHT NOW. 708 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,500 AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT 709 00:19:01,366 --> 00:19:04,300 THEY'RE GOING TO LAY AND CONNECT 710 00:19:03,500 --> 00:19:05,233 DIRECTLY TO PEOPLES HOMES. 711 00:19:04,300 --> 00:19:07,600 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE 712 00:19:05,233 --> 00:19:09,266 GOING TO LAY DOWN, IT'S LIKE THE 713 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,066 INTERSTATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM, AND 714 00:19:09,266 --> 00:19:11,366 THEY NEED BUSINESSES AND 715 00:19:10,066 --> 00:19:14,166 GOVERNMENT TO BUILD THE EXIT 716 00:19:11,366 --> 00:19:15,866 RAMPS OFF THESE FIBEROPTIC 717 00:19:14,166 --> 00:19:17,400 NETWORKS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO 718 00:19:15,866 --> 00:19:18,066 BUILD TO GO INTO NEIGHBORHOODS, 719 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,166 TO GO INTO PEOPLES HOME TO 720 00:19:18,066 --> 00:19:21,533 FINISH IT OUT. 721 00:19:19,166 --> 00:19:22,866 WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING IS 722 00:19:21,533 --> 00:19:24,133 TAXPAYERS, ONLY GOING TO BE ON 723 00:19:22,866 --> 00:19:25,866 THE HOOK FOR $50 MILLION. 724 00:19:24,133 --> 00:19:26,266 I KNOW YOU THINK ONLY 725 00:19:25,866 --> 00:19:28,066 $50 MILLION. 726 00:19:26,266 --> 00:19:30,966 THAT'S STILL A LOT MON. 727 00:19:28,066 --> 00:19:32,133 THE WHOLE PROJECT IS SOMETHING 728 00:19:30,966 --> 00:19:33,033 LIKE $350 MILLION. 729 00:19:32,133 --> 00:19:34,366 SO PRIVATE INVESTMENT IS GOING 730 00:19:33,033 --> 00:19:36,066 TO PAY FOR THE MAJORITY OF THIS 731 00:19:34,366 --> 00:19:38,300 PROJECT THE NEXT THREE YEARS. 732 00:19:36,066 --> 00:19:38,900 I WAS AT AN EVENT MONDAY IN 733 00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:40,566 HAZARD. 734 00:19:38,900 --> 00:19:41,966 THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE 735 00:19:40,566 --> 00:19:43,133 THERE, GOVERNOR BESHEAR WAS 736 00:19:41,966 --> 00:19:44,566 THERE, REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN 737 00:19:43,133 --> 00:19:46,633 HAL ROGERS WAS THERE, AND THEY 738 00:19:44,566 --> 00:19:48,166 REALLY THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE 739 00:19:46,633 --> 00:19:49,700 THE FUTURE FOR EASTERN KENTUCKY, 740 00:19:48,166 --> 00:19:50,766 AND IS NOT JUST CONCERN KENTUCKY 741 00:19:49,700 --> 00:19:51,966 BUT THE STATE AS A WHOLE. 742 00:19:50,766 --> 00:19:54,466 >> IT'S VERY INTERESTING AND 743 00:19:51,966 --> 00:19:55,666 WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT GOES. 744 00:19:54,466 --> 00:19:58,333 BETH, LEXINGTON TALKING ABOUT 745 00:19:55,666 --> 00:19:59,500 RAISING ITS LOCAL MINIMUM WAGE, 746 00:19:58,333 --> 00:20:01,266 A MOVE THAT LOUISVILLE MADE 747 00:19:59,500 --> 00:20:03,000 EARLIER IN THE YEAR AFTER OF A 748 00:20:01,266 --> 00:20:05,066 LOT OF DEBATE. 749 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,666 DOES IT LOOK LIKE THAT THAT HAS 750 00:20:05,066 --> 00:20:07,133 MOMENTUM TO HAPPEN? 751 00:20:05,666 --> 00:20:08,866 >> WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE 752 00:20:07,133 --> 00:20:10,733 WILL BE MORE DEBATE. 753 00:20:08,866 --> 00:20:11,966 THEY WILL HAVE ANOTHER MEETING 754 00:20:10,733 --> 00:20:12,833 ON THURSDAY AND IT'S NOT 755 00:20:11,966 --> 00:20:14,633 EXPECTED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO 756 00:20:12,833 --> 00:20:17,000 TAKE A VOTE P THIS IS THE FIRST 757 00:20:14,633 --> 00:20:19,466 TIME THAT THE URBAN COUNTY COINS 758 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,200 WHO IS HAD A CHANCE TO ASK GUESS 759 00:20:19,466 --> 00:20:21,400 BUT ON THE OTHER HAND WHICH IS 760 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,000 QUITE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT 761 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,566 LOUISVILLE HAD PASSED BECAUSE IT 762 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,666 INCLUDES TIPPED EMPLOYEES AND 763 00:20:24,566 --> 00:20:27,200 THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES 764 00:20:25,666 --> 00:20:29,066 INVOLVED, SO WE'RE NOT EXPECTING 765 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,733 A VOTE ON THURSDAY BUT WE ARE 766 00:20:29,066 --> 00:20:31,900 EXPECTING A LOT OF DEBATE. 767 00:20:29,733 --> 00:20:33,666 >> ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU 768 00:20:31,900 --> 00:20:35,800 HEAR IS THAT WHAT ABOUT THE FACT 769 00:20:33,666 --> 00:20:38,266 THAT SURROUNDING COUNTIES MIGHT 770 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,966 NOT DO THAT AND THEREFORE YOU 771 00:20:38,266 --> 00:20:40,533 CAN GET CHEAPER LABOR IN 772 00:20:39,966 --> 00:20:43,400 SURROUNDING COUNTIES. 773 00:20:40,533 --> 00:20:44,966 >> THAT'S BEEN -- THAT'S BEEN A 774 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,200 CONCERN THAT HAS BEEN RAISED 775 00:20:44,966 --> 00:20:48,366 QUITE A BIT. 776 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,666 THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE TIPPED 777 00:20:48,366 --> 00:20:51,400 EMPLOYEES, AND LOUISVILLE DIDN'T 778 00:20:49,666 --> 00:20:52,966 DO THAT, AND BECAUSE A LOT OF 779 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,466 RESTAURANT OWNERS COME BACK AND 780 00:20:52,966 --> 00:20:56,800 SAY, WELL, OUR TIPPED EMPLOYEES 781 00:20:54,466 --> 00:20:58,666 ARE OUR HIGHEST PAID EMPLOYEES 782 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,833 SO WHY RAISE THEIR MIN NUMB? 783 00:20:58,666 --> 00:21:01,033 SO THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS 784 00:20:59,833 --> 00:21:02,300 THAT STILL NEED TO BE ANSWERED 785 00:21:01,033 --> 00:21:03,933 ABOUT THAT. 786 00:21:02,300 --> 00:21:04,500 MEANWHILE OTHER EXTENSIVE PASSED 787 00:21:03,933 --> 00:21:05,466 IT. 788 00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:06,533 BIRMING HAPPEN PASSED IT. 789 00:21:05,466 --> 00:21:08,900 I BELIEVE ST. LOUIS JUST PASSED 790 00:21:06,533 --> 00:21:10,400 AN INCREASE IN THE MINIMUM WAGE. 791 00:21:08,900 --> 00:21:11,600 SO -- AND LOUISVILLE HAS HAD IT 792 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,033 IN PLACE SINCE JULY, I BELIEVE. 793 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:16,333 >> IT'S A THREE-YEAR PHASE-IN. 794 00:21:14,033 --> 00:21:17,266 >> DOES THAT CONTINUE TO BE 795 00:21:16,333 --> 00:21:18,633 CONTROVERSIAL OVER THERE? 796 00:21:17,266 --> 00:21:20,200 >> THERE'S NOT MUCH TALK ABOUT 797 00:21:18,633 --> 00:21:21,300 IT NOW. 798 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,800 THERE IT WAS VERY CONTROVERSIAL 799 00:21:21,300 --> 00:21:24,200 BEFORE IT WAS PASSED, THE SAME 800 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,800 CONCERNS ABOUT RESTAURANTS AND 801 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,866 ABOUT OTHER COUNTIES NOT 802 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,433 ADOPTING THIS AND MAKING 803 00:21:26,866 --> 00:21:30,300 LOUISVILLE UNCOMPETITIVE. 804 00:21:28,433 --> 00:21:34,800 BUT THAT'S WHY THE MAYOR DECIDED 805 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:38,266 TO CAP IT I THINK IT WAS $9 AN 806 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,500 HOUR INSTEAD OF $10.15 AS SOME 807 00:21:38,266 --> 00:21:40,166 WANTED AND IT WILL BE PHASED IN 808 00:21:39,500 --> 00:21:42,700 OVER THREE YEARS. 809 00:21:40,166 --> 00:21:44,633 >> HERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE. 810 00:21:42,700 --> 00:21:47,400 LEXINGTON ALSO STARTED A NEEDLE 811 00:21:44,633 --> 00:21:49,033 EXCHANGE TODAY WITH THE IDEA, OF 812 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,633 COURSE, BACKED BY THE STATE 813 00:21:49,033 --> 00:21:50,666 LEGISLATURE THAT GAVE 814 00:21:49,633 --> 00:21:54,800 COMMUNITIES A LOCAL OPTION TO 815 00:21:50,666 --> 00:21:57,400 TRY TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF IV 816 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,933 DRUG USE DISEASES BY IV DRUG 817 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,666 USERS. 818 00:21:57,933 --> 00:22:00,066 LOUISVILLE HAD DONE THAT 819 00:21:59,666 --> 00:22:01,566 EARLIER. 820 00:22:00,066 --> 00:22:02,400 I WANT TO GET BOTH OF YOUR TAKES 821 00:22:01,566 --> 00:22:05,066 ON THIS. 822 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,633 FIRST OFF, HOW IS IT GOING IN 823 00:22:05,066 --> 00:22:09,166 LEXINGTON AND, LAWRENCE, IN 824 00:22:06,633 --> 00:22:10,900 LOUISVILLE THERE WAS SOME 825 00:22:09,166 --> 00:22:12,000 CRITICISM EARLY ON THAT A LOT 826 00:22:10,900 --> 00:22:13,066 MORE LOT MORE MIDDLE EAST WERE 827 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,233 GOING OUT THAN COMING IN. 828 00:22:13,066 --> 00:22:14,700 >> LEXINGTON JUST START THIS 829 00:22:14,233 --> 00:22:16,800 THIS AFTERNOON. 830 00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:18,133 IT IS STILL VERY, VERY EARLY ON. 831 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,300 BUT I KNOW LEXINGTON OFFICIALS 832 00:22:18,133 --> 00:22:23,200 WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO 833 00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:26,233 GET MORE OF A ONE-FOR-ONE RATIO, 834 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,600 THAT THERE IS A TRUE EXCHANGE, 835 00:22:26,233 --> 00:22:28,033 THAT IS THEIR GOAL OF THE 836 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,633 PROGRAM HERE. 837 00:22:28,033 --> 00:22:31,033 THEY HAVE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT 838 00:22:29,633 --> 00:22:33,300 FROM WHAT LOUISVILLE HAS DONE. 839 00:22:31,033 --> 00:22:35,833 >> AND THE NUMBERS HAVE 840 00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:36,866 IMPROOFED OR THE RATIO IMPROVED. 841 00:22:35,833 --> 00:22:37,566 >> ESPECIALLY REPUBLICANS IN THE 842 00:22:36,866 --> 00:22:38,766 SENATE WERE CONCERNED THAT 843 00:22:37,566 --> 00:22:41,333 LOUISVILLE DIDN'T HAVE A NEEDLE 844 00:22:38,766 --> 00:22:42,733 EXCHANGE BUT THE NEEDLE 845 00:22:41,333 --> 00:22:44,300 DISPENSARY BECAUSE SO MANY MORE 846 00:22:42,733 --> 00:22:45,566 WERE GOING OUT THAN COMING 847 00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:46,833 INABLE THOUGH THE LATEST 848 00:22:45,566 --> 00:22:48,166 NUMBERS, AND I DON'T HAVE THOSE 849 00:22:46,833 --> 00:22:50,533 NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THAT 850 00:22:48,166 --> 00:22:51,400 GAP APPARENTLY IS NARROWING AS 851 00:22:50,533 --> 00:22:52,500 HEALTH OFFICIALS IN LOUISVILLE 852 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,133 SAID IT WOULD. 853 00:22:52,500 --> 00:22:55,533 >> WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF 854 00:22:54,133 --> 00:22:57,400 LEGISLATION BE PREFILED AS THE 855 00:22:55,533 --> 00:22:59,600 LEGISLATURE WILL MEET ABOUT IF 856 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,566 FOUR MONTHS ANDA LOT OF 857 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,266 DISCUSSION TO BE HAD. 858 00:23:00,566 --> 00:23:04,800 OF COURSE, THEY PASS THE STATE 859 00:23:02,266 --> 00:23:05,600 BUDGET FOR THE TWO YEARS MAPPED 860 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,033 A NEW GOVERNOR WILL BE IN CHARGE 861 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,400 AT THAT TIME. 862 00:23:06,033 --> 00:23:08,533 AND THERE ARE INTERESTING 863 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,700 FILINGS. 864 00:23:08,533 --> 00:23:11,766 ONE IS ABOUT WHETHER KENTUCKY 865 00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:14,900 SHOULD BECOME ONE OF THOSE 866 00:23:11,766 --> 00:23:16,733 STATES THAT REGULATES DRONES. 867 00:23:14,900 --> 00:23:19,066 WE HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH THAT. 868 00:23:16,733 --> 00:23:20,666 THERE WAS ONE SHOT DOWN BY A MAN 869 00:23:19,066 --> 00:23:21,000 OVER HIS PROPERTY IN BULLITT 870 00:23:20,666 --> 00:23:22,566 COUNTY. 871 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,866 >> THERE WAS ONE SHOT DOWN. 872 00:23:22,566 --> 00:23:25,066 THE GUY SAID IT WAS HOVERING 873 00:23:23,866 --> 00:23:26,000 OVER HIS HOUSE AND TAKING 874 00:23:25,066 --> 00:23:27,766 PICTURES OF HIS DAUGHTER, AND 875 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,400 THE GUY SAID IT WAS TOO HIGH TO 876 00:23:27,766 --> 00:23:31,133 BE DOING ANYTHING, AND IT WAS 877 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,933 BASICALLY SHOT AT, SHOT DOWN. 878 00:23:31,133 --> 00:23:33,933 SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF 879 00:23:32,933 --> 00:23:36,566 PROBLEMS THAT EMERGE. 880 00:23:33,933 --> 00:23:37,833 >> BETH, A DRONE LANDED ON THE 881 00:23:36,566 --> 00:23:38,566 TALLEST BUILDINGS IN LEXINGTON A 882 00:23:37,833 --> 00:23:41,866 COUPLE WEEKS AGO. 883 00:23:38,566 --> 00:23:44,300 >> A COUPLE SATURDAYS AGO, AND I 884 00:23:41,866 --> 00:23:45,033 THINK IN THE LEGISLATURE 885 00:23:44,300 --> 00:23:47,166 REPRESENTATIVES ST. ONGE HAS 886 00:23:45,033 --> 00:23:49,066 FILED A BILL THAT WOULD LOOK AT 887 00:23:47,166 --> 00:23:51,200 JUST DRONE USE BY LAW 888 00:23:49,066 --> 00:23:52,600 ENFORCEMENT AND WHEN THEY CAN 889 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,600 USE DRONES. 890 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,700 THE URBAN COUNTY COUNCIL IN 891 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,733 LEXINGTON HAS ACTUALLY PUT THE 892 00:23:55,700 --> 00:23:58,566 WHOLE DRONE ISSUE ALSO INTO 893 00:23:57,733 --> 00:23:59,666 COMMITTEE IN PART BECAUSE OF 894 00:23:58,566 --> 00:24:02,233 WHAT HAPPENED AT THE FIFTH THIRD 895 00:23:59,666 --> 00:24:03,733 BUT THEY ALSO WANT TO LOOTING 896 00:24:02,233 --> 00:24:04,833 THIS WHOLE ISSUE OF WHERE DRONES 897 00:24:03,733 --> 00:24:07,200 CAN FLY WHEN IT COMES TO 898 00:24:04,833 --> 00:24:08,633 AIRPORTS BECAUSE WE KEEP SEEING 899 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,366 MORE AND MORE AND MORE OF THEM. 900 00:24:08,633 --> 00:24:12,633 SO AS, YOU COMMERCIAL DRONE 901 00:24:10,366 --> 00:24:14,333 OPERATOR TOLD ME, IT'S LIKE -- 902 00:24:12,633 --> 00:24:15,033 GETTING TO BE LIKE THE WILD WEST 903 00:24:14,333 --> 00:24:16,700 OUT THERE. 904 00:24:15,033 --> 00:24:17,600 >> SUMMERSET POLICE ARE NOW 905 00:24:16,700 --> 00:24:19,400 CERTIFIED TO USE DRONES. 906 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,233 THEY HAVE BECOME THE FIRST 907 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,300 POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THEY HAVE 908 00:24:20,233 --> 00:24:24,733 THEY HAVE TENSIONS USING ABOUT A 909 00:24:22,300 --> 00:24:25,133 THREE POUND PLANE THAT WOULD FLY 910 00:24:24,733 --> 00:24:25,766 AROUND. 911 00:24:25,133 --> 00:24:27,400 WHAT WOULD IT DO? 912 00:24:25,766 --> 00:24:29,066 >> THEY'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT 913 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,700 THEY WILL ONLY USE IT IF THEY 914 00:24:29,066 --> 00:24:33,300 HAVE'S SEARCH WARRANT AND THAT 915 00:24:30,700 --> 00:24:36,300 IT IS NOT INTENDED FOR ANY SORT 916 00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:37,100 OF FISHING EXPEDITION OR TO SPY 917 00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:38,733 ON PEOPLE. 918 00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:40,300 BUT WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY 919 00:24:38,733 --> 00:24:42,133 THINK THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT 920 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:43,366 SHOULD USE THOSE DRONES FOR ARE 921 00:24:42,133 --> 00:24:45,100 FOR SEARCH AND RESCUE MISSIONS. 922 00:24:43,366 --> 00:24:46,800 >> AND THE LOUISVILLE FIRE 923 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:47,366 DEPARTMENT DOES USE IN IT 924 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,200 FIREFIGHTING AS WELL. 925 00:24:47,366 --> 00:24:50,266 THEY HAD A BIG FIREFIGHT 926 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,100 DOWNTOWN IN WHICH A DRONE WAS 927 00:24:50,266 --> 00:24:52,533 USED TO SEE WHAT FIREFIGHTERS 928 00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:53,933 COULDN'T SEE. 929 00:24:52,533 --> 00:24:55,700 >> POLITICIANS RUSE USE THEM, 930 00:24:53,933 --> 00:24:57,066 TOO, I'VE SEEN THEM AT CAMPAIGN 931 00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:57,533 KICK OFF VENTS, THEY GET A 932 00:24:57,066 --> 00:24:59,400 SWEEPING VIDEO. 933 00:24:57,533 --> 00:25:01,033 >> THEY NEED TO LEARN THESE 934 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,600 RULES ABOUT WHERE YOU CAN AND 935 00:25:01,033 --> 00:25:02,966 CANNOT. 936 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,166 YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO FLY THEM. 937 00:25:02,966 --> 00:25:07,300 >> TO COVER THE NEWS. 938 00:25:04,166 --> 00:25:08,066 >> YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO THREE 939 00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:10,433 THEM OVER CROWDS. 940 00:25:08,066 --> 00:25:10,800 THE FAA SAID IT'S REALLY 941 00:25:10,433 --> 00:25:11,933 CONFUSING. 942 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,266 >> OBVIOUSLY CLARITY IS GOING TO 943 00:25:11,933 --> 00:25:15,000 HAVE TO COME SOONER OR LATER ON 944 00:25:14,266 --> 00:25:16,600 THAT. 945 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,766 SPEAKER STUMBO HAS COME UP WI 946 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,400 DIFFERENT APPROACH THAT WOULD 947 00:25:17,766 --> 00:25:22,066 TRY TO GET EXPANDED GAMING THAT 948 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,166 WOULD EARMARK WHERE THE PROCEEDS 949 00:25:22,066 --> 00:25:24,100 COULD GO AND SPELL OUT SOME 950 00:25:23,166 --> 00:25:25,900 THINGS IN AN AMENDMENT. 951 00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:28,900 >> SIX CASINOS RUN BY THE 952 00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:31,200 KENTUCKY LOTTERY, 60% EDUCATION, 953 00:25:28,900 --> 00:25:32,100 30% UNIVERSITIES, 10% TO 954 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,100 RACETRACKS, EDUCATION BEING 955 00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:35,766 PRIMARY AND SECONDARY EDUCATION, 956 00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:37,800 BUT AT A APPARENTLY NOT IS NOT 957 00:25:35,766 --> 00:25:39,233 GOING TO GO ANYWHERE BECAUSE THE 958 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,533 SENATE LEADERS OF ALREADY SAID 959 00:25:39,233 --> 00:25:45,033 IT PROBABLY WILL DIE. 960 00:25:40,533 --> 00:25:45,933 >> DAMON THAYER HAS SAID IT'S 961 00:25:45,033 --> 00:25:48,933 NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE. 962 00:25:45,933 --> 00:25:49,633 >> I'LL READ FROM TOM LOFTUS' 963 00:25:48,933 --> 00:25:51,933 REPORT. 964 00:25:49,633 --> 00:25:53,333 A CONCERN OF MULTI-MILLION 965 00:25:51,933 --> 00:25:56,033 DOLLAR DEBT IN THE KENTUCKY 966 00:25:53,333 --> 00:25:59,333 PENSION SYSTEM, STANDARD AND 967 00:25:56,033 --> 00:26:02,300 POOR'S LOWERED ITS RATING FOR 968 00:25:59,333 --> 00:26:05,500 KENTUCKY FROM A+ TO AA MINUS. 969 00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:07,500 SO IT'S DOWN TO ANA PLUS. 970 00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:09,400 ONLY MAKERS AND ILLINOIS HAVE A 971 00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:11,266 LOWER RATE P FROM S&P. 972 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,266 AIR FORCE CAPTAIN MATTHEW DID 973 00:26:11,266 --> 00:26:13,800 ROLAND OF LEXINGTON WILL BE LAID 974 00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:15,133 TO REST IN THE ARLINGTON 975 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,933 NATIONAL CEMETERY NEXT WEEK. 976 00:26:15,133 --> 00:26:18,166 HE WAS KILLED IN PATCHING HE IS 977 00:26:16,933 --> 00:26:20,300 REMEMBERED AS AN EAGLE SCOUT AND 978 00:26:18,166 --> 00:26:20,800 AS A BORN LEADER BY THOSE WHO 979 00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:23,433 KNEW HIM. 980 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,333 CAPTAIN ROLAND WAS JUST 27 YEARS 981 00:26:23,433 --> 00:26:25,033 OLD. 982 00:26:24,333 --> 00:26:26,000 THAT'S "COMMENT ON KENTUCKY." 983 00:26:25,033 --> 00:26:27,033 WE WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH 984 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,366 FOR JOINING US. 985 00:26:27,033 --> 00:26:29,566 CERTAINLY HOPE YOU HAVE A NICE 986 00:26:28,366 --> 00:26:30,733 LABOR DAY AND A WONDERFUL WEEK 987 00:26:29,566 --> 00:26:30,733 AHEAD.