1 00:00:01,433 --> 00:00:02,366 - [Voiceover] "Civic Summit" is made possible in part 2 00:00:02,366 --> 00:00:04,500 by Texas Mutual Insurance, 3 00:00:04,500 --> 00:00:07,900 providing worker's compensation for Texas employers. 4 00:00:10,100 --> 00:00:11,400 - That's very interesting. 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,600 - Okay, so I'm supposed to say just one thing? 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,233 - I knOw that vocabulary towards us 7 00:00:15,233 --> 00:00:16,733 has a lot of controversy to it, 8 00:00:16,733 --> 00:00:21,666 I, for myself, I'm definitely American first and foremost 9 00:00:21,666 --> 00:00:24,100 and then my culture is Hispanic 10 00:00:24,100 --> 00:00:27,133 and I bring a lot of that and try to integrate it together. 11 00:00:27,133 --> 00:00:28,833 - I personally am good with both. 12 00:00:28,833 --> 00:00:31,466 - I don't really care the label. 13 00:00:31,466 --> 00:00:35,133 For me I am Hispanic, I am a Latina, 14 00:00:35,133 --> 00:00:36,333 I am an immigrant. 15 00:00:36,333 --> 00:00:38,800 - Hispanic has a different connotation, 16 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,400 it means that I am of Latino origin, 17 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,533 I speak Spanish and I live here in the United States. 18 00:00:46,533 --> 00:00:49,033 - For me it's more secondary than primary. 19 00:00:49,033 --> 00:00:51,466 - The bottomline here is that our community 20 00:00:51,466 --> 00:00:53,100 is no longer a monolith, 21 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:55,933 you can't typecast or generalize it. 22 00:00:55,933 --> 00:00:58,300 - I am Mexicana, 23 00:00:58,300 --> 00:01:03,300 but when it comes to putting it down on paper 24 00:01:03,300 --> 00:01:07,466 in general I'm Hispanic. 25 00:01:08,366 --> 00:01:10,166 I'm just Hispanic, yeah. 26 00:01:10,166 --> 00:01:11,700 - I am an American, 27 00:01:11,700 --> 00:01:13,366 and so at the end of the day I am an American 28 00:01:13,366 --> 00:01:16,333 and that's the term I prefer over everything. 29 00:01:16,333 --> 00:01:18,466 American. 30 00:01:18,466 --> 00:01:20,700 - I don't define myself by a label, 31 00:01:20,700 --> 00:01:24,000 I am who I am and I'm very proud to be a US citizen. 32 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,933 We have double citizenship and I don't wanna 33 00:01:26,933 --> 00:01:30,966 anybody to label me as just one thing. 34 00:01:30,966 --> 00:01:35,966 (vibrant music) 35 00:01:41,166 --> 00:01:45,500 (audience applauding) 36 00:01:45,500 --> 00:01:46,966 - Hello, and thank you for joining us 37 00:01:46,966 --> 00:01:49,566 for "Civic Summit: Austin's Latino Identity". 38 00:01:49,566 --> 00:01:52,233 I'm Josefina Casati editor of "!¡Ahora Si!". 39 00:01:52,233 --> 00:01:55,333 Austin's Latino community is large and diverse, 40 00:01:55,333 --> 00:01:58,833 35% of Austinites call themselves Hispanic or Latino. 41 00:01:58,833 --> 00:02:02,266 Tonight we'll discuss the challenges our community faces. 42 00:02:02,266 --> 00:02:04,266 Some of our panelists pioneered 43 00:02:04,266 --> 00:02:06,366 the Chicano Civil Rights Movement, 44 00:02:06,366 --> 00:02:08,766 others continue to the legacy of working 45 00:02:08,766 --> 00:02:11,733 to improve the lives of Latinos in our city. 46 00:02:11,733 --> 00:02:12,866 Beginning from my left, 47 00:02:12,866 --> 00:02:14,800 Senator Gonzalo Barrientos. 48 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,533 Senator Barrientos served in the Texas legislature 49 00:02:17,533 --> 00:02:20,200 from 1975 to 2007, 50 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,866 some years in the House and some in the Senate. 51 00:02:22,866 --> 00:02:25,400 He was a pioneer of the Chicano Civil Rights Movement 52 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,433 and continues to be an outspoken advocate for our community. 53 00:02:29,433 --> 00:02:31,800 Mona Gonzalez is the executive director 54 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,666 and founder of the River City Youth Foundation. 55 00:02:34,666 --> 00:02:38,433 Her foundation provides educational, technological 56 00:02:38,433 --> 00:02:42,700 and life enhancement programs for youth in Dove Springs. 57 00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:45,633 Next to Mona is Doctor Emilio Zamora. 58 00:02:45,633 --> 00:02:49,300 Doctor Zamora is a professor at UT and was an active member 59 00:02:49,300 --> 00:02:51,733 of La Raza Unida party. 60 00:02:51,733 --> 00:02:55,233 And next to Doctor Zamora is Carmen Llanos Pulido. 61 00:02:55,233 --> 00:02:56,933 Carmen is a native of Austin, 62 00:02:56,933 --> 00:02:59,166 a multi-issue community organizer 63 00:02:59,166 --> 00:03:02,633 and director of "GO! Austin/VAMOS! Dove Springs", 64 00:03:02,633 --> 00:03:07,066 a public house initiative in Southeast Austin. 65 00:03:07,066 --> 00:03:10,866 I'd like to start our discussion by focusing on identity. 66 00:03:10,866 --> 00:03:14,266 The first question I'd like for us to all start, 67 00:03:14,266 --> 00:03:15,966 if you can all answer it, is: 68 00:03:15,966 --> 00:03:17,166 What is a Latino? 69 00:03:17,166 --> 00:03:20,833 And, specifically, what is an Austin Latino? 70 00:03:22,833 --> 00:03:26,633 - That could take an hour but, 71 00:03:26,633 --> 00:03:31,333 generally speaking, Latino is a term, just like Hispanic, 72 00:03:31,333 --> 00:03:34,033 I think that was derived from the senses 73 00:03:34,033 --> 00:03:38,500 to cover a lot of us who have some kind of Spanish, 74 00:03:38,500 --> 00:03:42,566 Latin American roots. 75 00:03:42,566 --> 00:03:47,566 I prefer Mexican-American, I prefer Chicano, 76 00:03:48,733 --> 00:03:50,866 but since we have any number of Americans 77 00:03:50,866 --> 00:03:55,866 who are Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Guatemaltecos, etcetera, 78 00:03:57,033 --> 00:03:59,233 so that's the general word that is used 79 00:03:59,233 --> 00:04:04,233 for those of us who has those roots, have that language 80 00:04:05,100 --> 00:04:06,733 and have a little sun tan. 81 00:04:06,733 --> 00:04:08,166 - Nice, thank you. 82 00:04:08,166 --> 00:04:10,300 Mona. 83 00:04:10,300 --> 00:04:12,633 - I'd say "deed-oh" to that. 84 00:04:13,633 --> 00:04:18,366 For me the term Latina/Latino 85 00:04:18,366 --> 00:04:23,166 is kind of like "una sombrilla", like an umbrella. 86 00:04:23,166 --> 00:04:28,166 It's magnificent because it really brings together 87 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,900 over 30 nationalities, and growing. 88 00:04:32,900 --> 00:04:37,600 And so when we talk about identity 89 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,000 we are who are we are and started when we were children 90 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,800 because the identity is formed 91 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,900 in "la familia", in the family. 92 00:04:45,900 --> 00:04:49,700 We get labels put on us all through our lives 93 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:54,533 but our identity, who we are, we know who we are, 94 00:04:54,533 --> 00:04:56,833 we know our "cultura", we know our culture, 95 00:04:56,833 --> 00:04:58,633 we know our traditions, 96 00:04:58,633 --> 00:05:01,466 we know if we like "tortillas de maiz" 97 00:05:01,466 --> 00:05:03,500 or "tortillas de harina", okay? 98 00:05:03,500 --> 00:05:05,733 We know, 99 00:05:05,733 --> 00:05:09,833 but now we have this terminology of Latino 100 00:05:09,833 --> 00:05:14,133 and it is beautiful because it is so unifying. 101 00:05:14,133 --> 00:05:17,800 - As I noted it's a self-referent, 102 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,033 people consciously choose to call themselves 103 00:05:21,033 --> 00:05:25,566 Latinos or Mexican-Americans or other terms, 104 00:05:25,566 --> 00:05:29,000 but it has not only a personal meaning 105 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,666 but it also has a social meaning in many cases. 106 00:05:31,666 --> 00:05:35,800 To be a Latino is also somebody who has some consciousness 107 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,500 of their position in society 108 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:39,666 and as members of the Latino community, 109 00:05:39,666 --> 00:05:41,133 and even more than that. 110 00:05:41,133 --> 00:05:45,200 I think that self-awareness is expressed politically 111 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,966 in terms of identifying and promoting 112 00:05:47,966 --> 00:05:49,766 the interests and hopes and aspirations 113 00:05:49,766 --> 00:05:52,633 of the Latino community. 114 00:05:52,633 --> 00:05:55,733 - Well, I agree with everything that's been stated 115 00:05:55,733 --> 00:05:59,700 and it is a very large umbrella that covers lots of us 116 00:05:59,700 --> 00:06:02,966 because not only do we draw roots 117 00:06:02,966 --> 00:06:05,266 from many different countries, 118 00:06:05,266 --> 00:06:08,066 we are first, second, third, fourth, 119 00:06:08,066 --> 00:06:10,333 fifth generation and beyond. 120 00:06:10,333 --> 00:06:14,233 So some of us have lived on both sides of the border 121 00:06:14,233 --> 00:06:16,966 and some have been here their whole lives, 122 00:06:16,966 --> 00:06:18,966 but there is a deep rich tradition. 123 00:06:18,966 --> 00:06:23,200 And we also are black, white, brown and Asian, 124 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,866 so we are across the whole racial diaspora 125 00:06:26,866 --> 00:06:30,433 and some of us are not even necessarily 126 00:06:30,433 --> 00:06:33,066 identified as Latino by the outside world 127 00:06:33,066 --> 00:06:36,266 until we speak Spanish or until we reveal something, 128 00:06:36,266 --> 00:06:38,600 but I think everybody who is Latino 129 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,900 or identifies with that root, 130 00:06:41,900 --> 00:06:46,166 there's something very rich and lasting in our culture 131 00:06:46,166 --> 00:06:47,666 that does unify us. 132 00:06:47,666 --> 00:06:52,333 And people have hold on to at times specifically 133 00:06:52,333 --> 00:06:55,000 because of the way people have been marginalized. 134 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,366 - Let's talk a little about culture and, 135 00:06:57,366 --> 00:06:59,033 are we losing our culture 136 00:06:59,033 --> 00:07:00,800 because we're not teaching the right culture 137 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,666 in our curriculum at schools? 138 00:07:03,666 --> 00:07:08,166 What options do we have for our future generations 139 00:07:08,166 --> 00:07:11,366 to really connect with their heritage? 140 00:07:11,366 --> 00:07:13,100 - First of all, let me take part of that last question 141 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:15,066 and move into this one. 142 00:07:15,066 --> 00:07:20,066 My opinion, because of CNN, MSNBC, Fox, etcetera, etcetera, 143 00:07:20,966 --> 00:07:22,766 on the national level, 144 00:07:22,766 --> 00:07:27,033 there are a lot of people, specially non Spanish-speaking, 145 00:07:27,033 --> 00:07:30,600 Anglo, should I say, Americans, 146 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,100 who have this image that anybody 147 00:07:33,100 --> 00:07:37,633 who's named Gutierrez, Sosa, Sanchez, etcetera, 148 00:07:37,633 --> 00:07:39,566 and has a little sun tan 149 00:07:39,566 --> 00:07:42,500 we just walked across the border two years ago. 150 00:07:42,500 --> 00:07:44,333 They have that image, 151 00:07:44,333 --> 00:07:47,500 when most of the Hispanic population 152 00:07:47,500 --> 00:07:49,866 has been in this country for generations 153 00:07:49,866 --> 00:07:54,200 if not even before the Europeans came to Plymouth Rock. 154 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,766 So we have our own history here with our own background 155 00:07:57,766 --> 00:08:01,966 going back hundreds if not thousands of years. 156 00:08:01,966 --> 00:08:05,433 I for one found out that I had a great-great-uncle 157 00:08:05,433 --> 00:08:09,266 who was a soldier in the Union Army during the civil war. 158 00:08:09,266 --> 00:08:13,500 At any rate, the culture, the language. 159 00:08:13,500 --> 00:08:15,766 The language brings people together. 160 00:08:15,766 --> 00:08:20,666 Now, I was telling some friends a story a while ago 161 00:08:20,666 --> 00:08:24,166 about an undocumented who was telling me one day, 162 00:08:24,166 --> 00:08:27,833 he said in Spanish, "No, no, a mi no me gustan los Texanos, 163 00:08:27,833 --> 00:08:30,933 "se creen muy grandes y no hablan Español". 164 00:08:30,933 --> 00:08:35,433 He said, "No, I don't like 'Texanos', 165 00:08:35,433 --> 00:08:38,633 "they think they're big shots and they don't speak Spanish". 166 00:08:38,633 --> 00:08:41,400 And I told him in Spanish, "¿Sabías tú, mi amigo, 167 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,933 "que cuando nosotros estábamos en la escuela 168 00:08:43,933 --> 00:08:48,666 "si hablamos Español los maestros nos golpeaban?" 169 00:08:48,666 --> 00:08:53,433 "When I was in school that if we spoke Spanish 170 00:08:53,433 --> 00:08:54,933 "the teachers would paddle us?" 171 00:08:54,933 --> 00:08:56,966 And he said, "¿De veras?", "Oh, really?" 172 00:08:56,966 --> 00:08:58,433 I said, "So there are reasons", 173 00:08:58,433 --> 00:09:01,433 and we're losing some of that culture, that language, 174 00:09:01,433 --> 00:09:04,000 and we must teach our children who we are, 175 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,800 where we come from, as proud Americans. 176 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,966 - [Carmen] I think what Senator Barrientos is pointing to 177 00:09:08,966 --> 00:09:12,333 is a thread in all these questions which is 178 00:09:12,333 --> 00:09:15,533 a history of oppression and a history of resistance to that. 179 00:09:15,533 --> 00:09:20,366 And ever since this country was founded as a, 180 00:09:20,366 --> 00:09:22,366 from a European colony, 181 00:09:22,366 --> 00:09:24,633 there has been pressure to assimilate. 182 00:09:24,633 --> 00:09:26,633 So there was pressure on ethnic Europeans 183 00:09:26,633 --> 00:09:28,366 to become Anglo and to speak English 184 00:09:28,366 --> 00:09:29,866 and to leave behind their customs, 185 00:09:29,866 --> 00:09:32,533 and there has been pressure on every incoming group 186 00:09:32,533 --> 00:09:37,166 to be as mainstream in that mold. 187 00:09:37,166 --> 00:09:40,833 And so in my generation it's difficult to get a job now 188 00:09:40,833 --> 00:09:43,233 if you don't speak Spanish, 189 00:09:43,233 --> 00:09:46,500 and learning Spanish correctly was very, very important 190 00:09:46,500 --> 00:09:48,633 in my family and in my operating, 191 00:09:48,633 --> 00:09:51,233 but most of my parents' generation 192 00:09:51,233 --> 00:09:53,366 were punished in school for speaking Spanish. 193 00:09:53,366 --> 00:09:56,033 And so we're in a real inflection point right now 194 00:09:56,033 --> 00:09:59,733 where our country is really having a struggle 195 00:09:59,733 --> 00:10:04,733 between a right nationalism that is Anglo, European-focused 196 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:06,800 and claiming the country back, 197 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,933 which is its own narrative, 198 00:10:08,933 --> 00:10:11,866 and actually embracing the richness of this country 199 00:10:11,866 --> 00:10:14,766 as a multi-cultural place and an immigrant nation. 200 00:10:14,766 --> 00:10:17,333 And I think in that inflection point is where we find 201 00:10:17,333 --> 00:10:21,333 where our culture is going to be preserved and live on. 202 00:10:21,333 --> 00:10:23,500 And I definitely can say that it's incoming immigrants 203 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:25,933 who have helped me practice my Spanish. 204 00:10:25,933 --> 00:10:28,366 I married to a first-generation Colombian 205 00:10:28,366 --> 00:10:30,933 and this is something we talk about all the time. 206 00:10:30,933 --> 00:10:33,166 But I do have hope for our future 207 00:10:33,166 --> 00:10:35,966 that we're starting to embrace what was for so long shamed, 208 00:10:35,966 --> 00:10:38,600 and I think that was the source of a lot of the tension 209 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,133 between immigrant youth and Latinos 210 00:10:42,133 --> 00:10:43,933 who've been here for many generations, 211 00:10:43,933 --> 00:10:45,366 is that everybody is trying to fight 212 00:10:45,366 --> 00:10:46,800 to get out of that oppression, 213 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,166 you either get out by assimilating as best as you can 214 00:10:49,166 --> 00:10:52,500 or by trying to actually overcome those systems. 215 00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:54,800 And I think that's where we find ourselves now. 216 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,333 - I'd like to add to this, 217 00:10:57,333 --> 00:10:58,933 the schools and other institutions 218 00:10:58,933 --> 00:11:02,500 have subjugated our identity and our knowledge, 219 00:11:02,500 --> 00:11:06,733 but that doesn't mean that our culture has remained static, 220 00:11:06,733 --> 00:11:08,233 it's always evolved, 221 00:11:08,233 --> 00:11:10,933 there is no such thing as static culture. 222 00:11:10,933 --> 00:11:14,566 And it's evolved for a number of reasons, 223 00:11:14,566 --> 00:11:18,733 of course there's loving parents that nurture the children 224 00:11:18,733 --> 00:11:22,233 and promote important values as part of our culture, 225 00:11:22,233 --> 00:11:25,000 we talk about it in terms of familism, 226 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,766 but there's other people that are also reinforcing 227 00:11:28,766 --> 00:11:33,766 very important positive, constructive, generative values. 228 00:11:34,733 --> 00:11:36,366 In the social-political movement, 229 00:11:36,366 --> 00:11:39,133 we often associate these movements 230 00:11:39,133 --> 00:11:41,600 in terms of material gains we're gonna make 231 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,000 like improving wages and political representation, 232 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,333 which are good, 233 00:11:46,333 --> 00:11:48,433 but there's also a cultural element 234 00:11:48,433 --> 00:11:49,900 to the political movement, 235 00:11:49,900 --> 00:11:54,766 we also promote mutualism, reciprocity, respect for elders. 236 00:11:56,100 --> 00:11:57,333 And I think the social-political movement 237 00:11:57,333 --> 00:12:00,766 is reinforcing very positive cultural values 238 00:12:00,766 --> 00:12:05,766 that maintain our identity with the eyes on the prize, 239 00:12:06,633 --> 00:12:08,800 that is equality and so forth. 240 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,866 But I think when we speak, 241 00:12:10,866 --> 00:12:15,066 by culture there's obvious things like language and stuff, 242 00:12:15,066 --> 00:12:17,966 but I think that we also need to look underneath 243 00:12:17,966 --> 00:12:22,833 what are the values that are promoting good change for us, 244 00:12:22,833 --> 00:12:27,833 cultural revitalization is what these movements involve. 245 00:12:27,833 --> 00:12:31,533 And I think people, when they go up and protest 246 00:12:31,533 --> 00:12:36,033 or vote for a particular candidate that promises change 247 00:12:36,033 --> 00:12:38,266 they're reinforcing their modeling, 248 00:12:38,266 --> 00:12:41,866 the kind of behavior that we wanna have among us. 249 00:12:41,866 --> 00:12:46,200 We wanna reinforce mutuality and reciprocity 250 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,966 and caring and respect for each other. 251 00:12:48,966 --> 00:12:50,233 So our movements go beyond 252 00:12:50,233 --> 00:12:53,700 simply that the material gains that we seek. 253 00:12:53,700 --> 00:12:55,400 - I'd like to talk a little bit more about 254 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,533 both the language and the values. 255 00:12:58,533 --> 00:13:01,733 Language, whether you speak Spanish or not, specifically, 256 00:13:01,733 --> 00:13:04,133 tends to really impact the way 257 00:13:04,133 --> 00:13:05,600 that individuals see themselves, 258 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,533 or their comfort level with identifying 259 00:13:07,533 --> 00:13:10,433 as Latino, Hispanic or not. 260 00:13:10,433 --> 00:13:12,933 How much value do we give to language? 261 00:13:12,933 --> 00:13:14,433 Does that feel some of the conflict 262 00:13:14,433 --> 00:13:18,500 between recent immigrants and longer-term Latinos 263 00:13:18,500 --> 00:13:19,800 who don't have the language 264 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,400 and don't have that ability to communicate? 265 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,500 - [Emilio] Well, I think that's part of the problem 266 00:13:24,500 --> 00:13:26,066 that we face. 267 00:13:26,066 --> 00:13:30,366 I think we often times are influenced to think 268 00:13:30,366 --> 00:13:32,933 in negative ways about ourselves. 269 00:13:32,933 --> 00:13:35,500 There's nothing wrong with the language you speak, 270 00:13:35,500 --> 00:13:37,133 whatever you wish to speak, 271 00:13:37,133 --> 00:13:41,533 but we've been made to feel ashamed about who we are 272 00:13:41,533 --> 00:13:45,066 and that's what I meant by subjugating our identity. 273 00:13:45,066 --> 00:13:47,933 I tell my students at the beginning of every semester 274 00:13:47,933 --> 00:13:49,900 when I teach Mexican-American history 275 00:13:49,900 --> 00:13:51,300 at this university, I tell them, 276 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:53,233 "I do not wanna see any of you 277 00:13:53,233 --> 00:13:56,166 "playing language politics with each other, 278 00:13:56,166 --> 00:13:58,800 "because if I see it I'm gonna come down on you 279 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,633 "one way or another". 280 00:14:00,633 --> 00:14:04,500 That's created divisions among us that do not help us, 281 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:09,133 do not help us advance anything, it only sets us back. 282 00:14:09,133 --> 00:14:13,666 So, schools by denying us to speak Spanish, 283 00:14:13,666 --> 00:14:16,733 I think are promoting that self-hatred 284 00:14:16,733 --> 00:14:20,433 or the shamefulness that we feel. 285 00:14:20,433 --> 00:14:22,433 But we also promote that 286 00:14:22,433 --> 00:14:24,700 by playing language politics with each other, 287 00:14:24,700 --> 00:14:27,466 and putting down people that don't speak the language 288 00:14:27,466 --> 00:14:30,600 the way we speak it. 289 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:35,033 (vibrant music) 290 00:14:36,100 --> 00:14:37,533 - [Teacher] For the most part 291 00:14:37,533 --> 00:14:39,633 children in our public schools, 292 00:14:39,633 --> 00:14:41,133 and this is in Austin, 293 00:14:41,133 --> 00:14:43,500 they are not getting a curriculum 294 00:14:43,500 --> 00:14:48,500 that responds to their culture, their identities, 295 00:14:49,966 --> 00:14:53,366 their communities in ways that affirm who they are. 296 00:14:53,366 --> 00:14:55,433 Children that come to Academia Cuauhtli 297 00:14:55,433 --> 00:14:58,333 have an opportunity to learn these things 298 00:14:58,333 --> 00:15:00,266 and learn that they're not marginal, 299 00:15:00,266 --> 00:15:03,833 that they're actually members of communities 300 00:15:03,833 --> 00:15:06,866 that have roots that go all the way back 301 00:15:06,866 --> 00:15:09,800 to the original inhabitants of this continent. 302 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,766 The idea was to really build on 303 00:15:12,766 --> 00:15:15,866 the district's current efforts. 304 00:15:15,866 --> 00:15:18,700 The Austin Independent School District has 60 plus schools 305 00:15:18,700 --> 00:15:20,866 that teach dual language, 306 00:15:20,866 --> 00:15:23,866 but there's really not enough curriculum right now. 307 00:15:23,866 --> 00:15:28,133 Because there aren't those basic kinds of materials 308 00:15:28,133 --> 00:15:31,100 the community felt an urgency about 309 00:15:31,100 --> 00:15:35,733 bringing in resources that could be of use to our teachers. 310 00:15:35,733 --> 00:15:37,233 (speaking Spanish) 311 00:15:37,233 --> 00:15:40,066 We are teaching exclusively in Spanish. 312 00:15:40,066 --> 00:15:43,766 The children right now are learning about migration, 313 00:15:43,766 --> 00:15:47,266 immigration, civil rights and local history. 314 00:15:47,266 --> 00:15:50,033 A lot of children feel very united from school, 315 00:15:50,033 --> 00:15:51,466 particularly for immigrants, 316 00:15:51,466 --> 00:15:54,433 it helps them to feel connected to the larger curriculum, 317 00:15:54,433 --> 00:15:55,933 it becomes a bridge. 318 00:15:55,933 --> 00:15:59,866 Children at this level are studying the Greek gods 319 00:15:59,866 --> 00:16:03,566 and getting access to Texas' history, 320 00:16:03,566 --> 00:16:06,433 and this is an opportunity to share 321 00:16:06,433 --> 00:16:10,866 from a grounded, rooted historic standpoint 322 00:16:10,866 --> 00:16:13,100 what that culture, language, 323 00:16:13,100 --> 00:16:17,966 what the culture arts are and have been for this community. 324 00:16:17,966 --> 00:16:22,100 (ethnic music) 325 00:16:23,500 --> 00:16:26,766 - I'd like to hear others from our audience now. 326 00:16:26,766 --> 00:16:30,566 Is there anyone up there who'd like to ask a question? 327 00:16:30,566 --> 00:16:32,033 - I have a question. 328 00:16:32,033 --> 00:16:36,800 Okay, my name is Jill Ramirez, I'm from El Paso, 329 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,800 which is on the border of Mexico and Texas, 330 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,933 and I think about Austin, since we are talking about Austin. 331 00:16:48,133 --> 00:16:50,666 I moved here in 1983 and I really thought 332 00:16:50,666 --> 00:16:55,666 I was moving to this wonderful, liberal place called Austin 333 00:16:56,833 --> 00:16:58,700 that everybody was going to have this open mind 334 00:16:58,700 --> 00:17:02,266 about who you are as a Latino woman. 335 00:17:02,266 --> 00:17:05,100 And when I got here and I was a bilingual teacher 336 00:17:05,100 --> 00:17:07,666 I had kids talk to me and say, 337 00:17:07,666 --> 00:17:09,800 "Miss, don't speak in Spanish to me 338 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,433 "'cause it's embarrassing". 339 00:17:12,433 --> 00:17:16,433 That's when I realized Austin needed to really work 340 00:17:16,433 --> 00:17:21,433 on how they see themselves and their Spanish schools 341 00:17:22,533 --> 00:17:24,366 and just their language and their culture. 342 00:17:24,366 --> 00:17:28,966 I was really shocked, and that was just like in 1983-84. 343 00:17:28,966 --> 00:17:31,833 So that's my experience. 344 00:17:34,833 --> 00:17:37,800 - [Mona] Well, perhaps at that, Jill, 345 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,400 we still had a majority of Anglos 346 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,900 in this public school system, 347 00:17:43,900 --> 00:17:45,966 but today that has changed 348 00:17:45,966 --> 00:17:50,966 and the majority of students in AISD are Latinos, Hispanics. 349 00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:58,300 And so what I'm seeing slowly happening is that 350 00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:03,733 we're trying to play catch up in a sense. 351 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:09,000 We do see now with families, 352 00:18:10,066 --> 00:18:14,000 we see them embracing the importance 353 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,466 of instructing their children 354 00:18:17,466 --> 00:18:21,366 to take pride in their language, 355 00:18:21,366 --> 00:18:25,600 but go beyond that because we are now a global society, 356 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,500 it's really changed a great deal 357 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:29,800 since you and I arrived here in Austin. 358 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:30,866 - [Josefina] So you do see a shift. 359 00:18:30,866 --> 00:18:32,400 - I see a shift. 360 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,866 - With the AISD having more dual language programs and, 361 00:18:35,866 --> 00:18:37,433 you see that there's more of an acceptance 362 00:18:37,433 --> 00:18:40,466 or even an encouragement to have bilingualism 363 00:18:40,466 --> 00:18:42,933 or just multilingualism. - Multilingualism. 364 00:18:42,933 --> 00:18:45,500 And so the days when we suffered, 365 00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:47,866 because that was what happened, 366 00:18:47,866 --> 00:18:50,300 intellectually you can call it what you want 367 00:18:50,300 --> 00:18:52,200 but those of us that did experience 368 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,066 what Gonzalo was talking about, 369 00:18:54,066 --> 00:18:56,166 it was suffering. 370 00:18:56,166 --> 00:18:57,266 - [Josefina] You experienced that as well? 371 00:18:57,266 --> 00:18:58,500 - As well. 372 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:00,300 It was suffering. 373 00:19:00,300 --> 00:19:04,033 You had intelligent, wonderful young people 374 00:19:04,033 --> 00:19:07,800 who were being denied the opportunity to express ourselves 375 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,300 in our language, in our native language. 376 00:19:10,300 --> 00:19:15,000 But today, what I see happening slowly but surely 377 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,233 is that we're moving towards embracing, 378 00:19:19,233 --> 00:19:21,233 maybe because of economic reasons 379 00:19:21,233 --> 00:19:23,566 because we are becoming much more global, 380 00:19:23,566 --> 00:19:25,700 we are preparing our future-ready cities, 381 00:19:25,700 --> 00:19:28,833 we're having to move fast and we're having to be nimble 382 00:19:28,833 --> 00:19:31,366 and we're having to catch up, 383 00:19:31,366 --> 00:19:33,466 but I am seeing a little bit of progress 384 00:19:33,466 --> 00:19:35,966 that's being made in the families 385 00:19:35,966 --> 00:19:40,966 where they realize that they are best served as a family 386 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,633 by taking pride in who they are 387 00:19:45,633 --> 00:19:47,533 and instilling that in the children. 388 00:19:47,533 --> 00:19:50,266 And that's where programs and schools 389 00:19:50,266 --> 00:19:55,133 and churches and colleges and all of this come in, 390 00:19:55,133 --> 00:19:58,933 that we can inspire them to move forward in that direction, 391 00:19:58,933 --> 00:20:00,533 because once you go in that direction 392 00:20:00,533 --> 00:20:02,766 you will not turn back. 393 00:20:02,766 --> 00:20:04,666 - Great, thank you, Mona. 394 00:20:05,666 --> 00:20:07,200 - I'm gonna ask, 395 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,200 as we see an increasing gentrification 396 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,566 on the East side of Austin there are a lot of properties 397 00:20:12,566 --> 00:20:14,566 that were traditionally Hispanic or Latino, 398 00:20:14,566 --> 00:20:17,866 I think this is what the term yourselves seated agreed on, 399 00:20:17,866 --> 00:20:20,800 that used to be there that are now going up in apartments, 400 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,600 and as these apartments go up you notice 401 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,266 that they have names like "El Corazón" 402 00:20:24,266 --> 00:20:26,266 or in my neighborhood "El Chicón". 403 00:20:26,266 --> 00:20:28,400 So, how do you feel about that? 404 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,866 Is that an appropriate homage 405 00:20:29,866 --> 00:20:31,133 to the heritage that was there? 406 00:20:31,133 --> 00:20:32,866 Is that a token gesture? 407 00:20:32,866 --> 00:20:35,700 Is it unfair commercialization of the people that were there 408 00:20:35,700 --> 00:20:37,833 that no longer can afford to live there 409 00:20:37,833 --> 00:20:40,366 but now the neighborhood is associated with them? 410 00:20:40,366 --> 00:20:41,900 I'm just kind of curious on your perspectives. 411 00:20:41,900 --> 00:20:43,066 - [Josefina] Thank you, sir, so almost like that, 412 00:20:43,066 --> 00:20:44,333 diversity of the neighborhood. 413 00:20:44,333 --> 00:20:45,800 Would anybody like to address that? 414 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,800 - Well, I'll just address it as somebody who, 415 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,833 so my dad lives on the East side and he's the last Latino 416 00:20:50,833 --> 00:20:54,733 or the last Mexican-American on his street, 417 00:20:54,733 --> 00:20:58,533 and there's been a large influx of mostly younger 418 00:20:58,533 --> 00:21:03,433 and slightly wealthier white property owners 419 00:21:03,433 --> 00:21:06,400 who've come in and either built homes or have moved in. 420 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,166 And he feels very fortunate that he gets along 421 00:21:08,166 --> 00:21:09,700 with those new neighbors 422 00:21:09,700 --> 00:21:13,333 and that they actually have an appreciation for the work 423 00:21:13,333 --> 00:21:15,500 that he and many other community leaders have done 424 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:17,566 to make East Austin such a wonderful, 425 00:21:17,566 --> 00:21:19,566 beautiful, livable place, 426 00:21:19,566 --> 00:21:22,433 the work that's been done to get industrial toxins 427 00:21:22,433 --> 00:21:25,066 out of the neighborhood that were placed there 428 00:21:25,066 --> 00:21:26,666 when the city was segregated. 429 00:21:26,666 --> 00:21:28,033 So that's appreciation, 430 00:21:28,033 --> 00:21:31,033 but I think naming a complex "El Corazón" 431 00:21:31,033 --> 00:21:35,700 when it's not affordable to the families that were displaced 432 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:37,166 is appropriation, 433 00:21:37,166 --> 00:21:39,833 I think that's very clearly not appreciation, 434 00:21:39,833 --> 00:21:43,700 it's an appropriation, it's capitalizing off of a culture 435 00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:47,733 that's not actually being catered to in that case. 436 00:21:47,733 --> 00:21:50,433 And I think there's plenty of room 437 00:21:50,433 --> 00:21:53,366 for people to come in to East Austin, 438 00:21:53,366 --> 00:21:54,433 I know a lot of people feel like 439 00:21:54,433 --> 00:21:56,033 there's a huge housing shortage, 440 00:21:56,033 --> 00:21:57,566 I think it's more a question of 441 00:21:57,566 --> 00:22:00,633 how we actually allocate space and housing, 442 00:22:00,633 --> 00:22:04,133 are we looking for families and classes apart of that? 443 00:22:04,133 --> 00:22:06,966 But we have to look at the ethnic segregation 444 00:22:06,966 --> 00:22:08,200 that created East Austin, 445 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,700 we have to acknowledge that history 446 00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:12,333 and there needs to be historical recognition 447 00:22:12,333 --> 00:22:14,666 for the communities that made this city what it is, 448 00:22:14,666 --> 00:22:18,733 and without that it's pure appropriation in my opinion. 449 00:22:18,733 --> 00:22:23,733 - And I think we also have to keep the city council, 450 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,966 hold them accountable for their development policies 451 00:22:28,966 --> 00:22:30,266 and the land use policies. 452 00:22:30,266 --> 00:22:34,166 It's pretty obvious that the city council 453 00:22:34,166 --> 00:22:39,166 for a number of years has used land policies 454 00:22:40,733 --> 00:22:44,400 to reinforce previous segregation based on racial covenants. 455 00:22:46,433 --> 00:22:51,433 Our president, we have a gentrification once again 456 00:22:52,633 --> 00:22:55,566 reinforcing segregation by moving people out. 457 00:22:55,566 --> 00:22:59,233 A friend of mine, ours, has said recently 458 00:22:59,233 --> 00:23:04,233 that the city's vision that they call, what is it? Austin? 459 00:23:05,566 --> 00:23:06,833 - [Carmen] "Imagine Austin". - "Imagine Austin", 460 00:23:06,833 --> 00:23:08,100 he says, "It's not 'Imagine Austin', 461 00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:09,666 "it's 'Imagine Austin without poor people'". 462 00:23:09,666 --> 00:23:12,533 And I think the city council needs to be held accountable 463 00:23:12,533 --> 00:23:15,066 and other political institutions 464 00:23:15,066 --> 00:23:20,033 for not only allowing this thing to happen 465 00:23:20,033 --> 00:23:23,366 and reinforcing trauma in our history, 466 00:23:23,366 --> 00:23:27,033 but not be really proposing anything 467 00:23:27,033 --> 00:23:29,600 for the welfare for the community. 468 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,266 I think the city policies regarding planning and land use, 469 00:23:34,266 --> 00:23:35,966 I think it has been intended primarily 470 00:23:35,966 --> 00:23:38,633 for the sake of business growth and development 471 00:23:38,633 --> 00:23:41,033 and less for the welfare of the people. 472 00:23:41,033 --> 00:23:43,133 - It's a multi-faceted problem. 473 00:23:43,133 --> 00:23:46,133 It's unfair, we're talking about big money, 474 00:23:46,133 --> 00:23:50,500 and moving that culture away, 475 00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:53,400 we shouldn't do that but it's happening. 476 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,666 And I must defend the city council to some extent, 477 00:23:56,666 --> 00:23:58,566 I was a chairman of the Charter Commission 478 00:23:58,566 --> 00:24:02,666 which pushed through the 10-1 to change, 479 00:24:02,666 --> 00:24:05,633 to have geographic representation on city council 480 00:24:05,633 --> 00:24:10,633 so that we have more Latinos and African-Americans on there. 481 00:24:11,733 --> 00:24:14,033 And what we've talked about there, 482 00:24:14,033 --> 00:24:16,133 that came before that. 483 00:24:16,133 --> 00:24:19,766 Now, in terms of what is done through the city 484 00:24:19,766 --> 00:24:21,800 depends a lot on the city manager 485 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,666 and the top administration of the city, 486 00:24:23,666 --> 00:24:27,333 but we most hold all of them accountable. 487 00:24:27,333 --> 00:24:29,133 - Okay, thank you. 488 00:24:29,133 --> 00:24:30,666 We have more questions? 489 00:24:30,666 --> 00:24:34,433 - Joseph Roland, professor emeritus of Communication. 490 00:24:34,433 --> 00:24:37,100 The term identity basically answers the question 491 00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:39,900 which is "Who am I?" as individual, 492 00:24:39,900 --> 00:24:42,033 as a community, say the Latino community, 493 00:24:42,033 --> 00:24:44,266 the question is "Who are we?", 494 00:24:44,266 --> 00:24:48,833 and usually has reference like language, territory, 495 00:24:48,833 --> 00:24:53,366 history, shared values. 496 00:24:53,366 --> 00:24:56,100 For the Latino community in this area, 497 00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:58,200 like Senator Barrientos, 498 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,433 some of them are natives of the area, 499 00:25:00,433 --> 00:25:02,066 they've been born and raised here, 500 00:25:02,066 --> 00:25:05,166 they have families for generations, 501 00:25:05,166 --> 00:25:09,433 the majority are newcomers. 502 00:25:09,433 --> 00:25:11,833 The question I have is, 503 00:25:11,833 --> 00:25:16,600 what does anyone in Austin do 504 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:21,600 to help the new Latino residents of the area? 505 00:25:23,066 --> 00:25:26,300 Go through this process of cross-cultural adaptation 506 00:25:26,300 --> 00:25:30,700 so that respecting the culture they bring, 507 00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:34,233 the way they answer the question "Who are we? Who am I?" 508 00:25:34,233 --> 00:25:36,600 can now be incorporated 509 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,466 into the new resident of the community 510 00:25:39,466 --> 00:25:41,800 so that you keep your roots, you keep your heritage, 511 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,700 you keep your tradition, but you adapt, 512 00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:47,366 you don't feel embarrassed because you speak your language, 513 00:25:47,366 --> 00:25:49,300 you speak with an accent, 514 00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:52,700 you are allowed to or help to become integrated 515 00:25:52,700 --> 00:25:54,066 into the community? 516 00:25:54,066 --> 00:25:55,333 What is anyone doing? 517 00:25:55,333 --> 00:25:58,333 And if nothing, then what should be done? 518 00:25:58,333 --> 00:26:01,433 - So you're wondering what kinds of programs currently exist 519 00:26:01,433 --> 00:26:05,300 to help the newcomers maintain their culture 520 00:26:05,300 --> 00:26:08,200 but also integrate and assimilate, I suppose? 521 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,500 - [Joseph] To integrate and assimilate, exactly. 522 00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:10,900 - [Josefina] Okay. 523 00:26:10,900 --> 00:26:12,900 - [Carmen] So "GO! Austin/VAMOS! Austin" is a coalition, 524 00:26:12,900 --> 00:26:14,300 is a resident-led coalition, 525 00:26:14,300 --> 00:26:18,166 we work with a lot of immigrants who are in the community 526 00:26:18,166 --> 00:26:21,100 and Latinos, multi-general Latinos. 527 00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:23,200 I think I struggle with the question a little bit 528 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,466 because I recognize that there are people 529 00:26:25,466 --> 00:26:26,966 who have been here for decades 530 00:26:26,966 --> 00:26:28,966 and still hold on to their language and their culture, 531 00:26:28,966 --> 00:26:31,866 and, again, it's almost who are we, 532 00:26:31,866 --> 00:26:34,633 it is upon us to work with people 533 00:26:34,633 --> 00:26:36,166 to find that happy medium, 534 00:26:36,166 --> 00:26:38,833 but it's really upon us to work on our whole society 535 00:26:38,833 --> 00:26:42,233 because how somebody feels when they speak Spanish 536 00:26:42,233 --> 00:26:44,433 or when they speak with an accent that shows 537 00:26:44,433 --> 00:26:47,966 that they are not necessarily natively from here, 538 00:26:47,966 --> 00:26:49,866 how they feel in that moment has everything to do 539 00:26:49,866 --> 00:26:51,533 with the way they're treated by the person 540 00:26:51,533 --> 00:26:53,400 on the other side of that conversation. 541 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,366 So I think, in terms of decreasing the stigma, 542 00:26:57,366 --> 00:26:58,866 is just like when I hear people say, 543 00:26:58,866 --> 00:27:01,066 "How can we decrease the stigma 544 00:27:01,066 --> 00:27:02,600 "around signing up for food stamps?" 545 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,300 Well, we have to talk about a society that shames people 546 00:27:05,300 --> 00:27:06,866 for being on benefits. 547 00:27:06,866 --> 00:27:08,966 So I think it's kind of two sides of the coin, 548 00:27:08,966 --> 00:27:10,866 I think there are a lot of ways to make sure 549 00:27:10,866 --> 00:27:12,666 that our programs and service providers 550 00:27:12,666 --> 00:27:14,733 are meeting people where they're at, 551 00:27:14,733 --> 00:27:16,166 helping people learn English, 552 00:27:16,166 --> 00:27:18,766 providing what they need to in Spanish, 553 00:27:18,766 --> 00:27:22,433 but just this stigmatizing, that's on all of us, I think. 554 00:27:22,433 --> 00:27:27,433 - The first ones who the undocumented people come here, 555 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,700 the ones who newly arrived, 556 00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:34,166 the first people they go to for assistance are Hispanics, 557 00:27:34,166 --> 00:27:37,000 are Mexican-Americans, first, 558 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,466 then from then on it works with some of the programs 559 00:27:40,466 --> 00:27:43,233 like these folks are pushing. 560 00:27:43,233 --> 00:27:45,966 But we must remember that this integration 561 00:27:45,966 --> 00:27:48,466 has to be a two-way street, 562 00:27:48,466 --> 00:27:52,533 that the people who come here have to learn the ways 563 00:27:52,533 --> 00:27:55,733 that Hispanics have here, 564 00:27:55,733 --> 00:27:58,566 and also make an effort to learn English. 565 00:27:58,566 --> 00:28:02,966 - So, just to clarify, you see that there is a value 566 00:28:02,966 --> 00:28:05,133 in understanding the history. 567 00:28:05,133 --> 00:28:07,366 Are you suggesting that it is important 568 00:28:07,366 --> 00:28:11,666 for recent immigrants to also understand the history 569 00:28:11,666 --> 00:28:14,933 as to why a "Texano" may not speak Spanish 570 00:28:14,933 --> 00:28:17,066 as well as ...? 571 00:28:17,066 --> 00:28:18,266 - That is very important, 572 00:28:18,266 --> 00:28:20,000 that's why I say it's a two-way street. 573 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,566 People who come here really should study or ask, 574 00:28:23,566 --> 00:28:25,033 what has happened here before? 575 00:28:25,033 --> 00:28:26,533 What did you go through? 576 00:28:26,533 --> 00:28:28,133 How did you succeed? 577 00:28:28,133 --> 00:28:29,700 What were your failures? 578 00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:31,666 - It's a very valuable point, thank you. 579 00:28:31,666 --> 00:28:32,900 Yes? There's someone else? 580 00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:34,600 - I was gonna add that there are, 581 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,166 and answering your question, 582 00:28:36,166 --> 00:28:39,666 there's a lot of groups in Austin 583 00:28:39,666 --> 00:28:42,066 beginning with the group that campaigned 584 00:28:42,066 --> 00:28:45,133 for single-member district elections, 585 00:28:45,133 --> 00:28:47,200 which is a major victory, 586 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,766 and there's people as a result that got elected, 587 00:28:49,766 --> 00:28:51,633 and there's people that have been appointed 588 00:28:51,633 --> 00:28:55,200 to Commissions and Committees that advice those people. 589 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,900 And that, I think, increase effective representation. 590 00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:01,466 There's a large number of non-profit organizations 591 00:29:01,466 --> 00:29:05,533 working in health, education, and so forth. 592 00:29:05,533 --> 00:29:08,900 I think we've reached the shift here a little bit more, 593 00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:11,666 and a comment on what Senator Barrientos was saying, 594 00:29:11,666 --> 00:29:16,033 and that is we as Mexican-Americans are really 595 00:29:16,033 --> 00:29:20,900 coming into a new period that is defined to a great extent 596 00:29:20,900 --> 00:29:22,666 by demographic change. 597 00:29:22,666 --> 00:29:26,300 We're becoming a major portion of the population 598 00:29:26,300 --> 00:29:30,333 as well as the social justice community, 599 00:29:30,333 --> 00:29:33,000 and we have to learn how to reach out 600 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,766 in both direction, in multiple direction. 601 00:29:35,766 --> 00:29:39,433 We have to learn leadership abilities 602 00:29:39,433 --> 00:29:43,166 in this new environment that includes class differences 603 00:29:43,166 --> 00:29:45,666 and language differences 604 00:29:45,666 --> 00:29:49,166 and nativity differences and so forth. 605 00:29:49,166 --> 00:29:52,900 I think, historically, we're at a very important point, 606 00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:55,300 as Carmen was pointing out earlier, 607 00:29:55,300 --> 00:29:59,366 and I think we're prepared, at least in this city, 608 00:29:59,366 --> 00:30:01,133 to assume leadership positions 609 00:30:01,133 --> 00:30:06,133 in this new people rights movement. 610 00:30:06,733 --> 00:30:11,000 (vibrant music) 611 00:30:13,433 --> 00:30:15,000 - My name is Capicci Vazquez 612 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,533 and I own Ceremonias 15 and Bridal. 613 00:30:17,533 --> 00:30:19,233 Well, the "Quinceañera" business, I mean, 614 00:30:19,233 --> 00:30:20,666 it's a wonderful business. 615 00:30:20,666 --> 00:30:23,433 It's a wedding without the groom. 616 00:30:23,433 --> 00:30:27,133 The difference is that you just add color to it, 617 00:30:27,133 --> 00:30:28,633 you just make it colorful. 618 00:30:28,633 --> 00:30:31,166 I've been a business owner for two years right now. 619 00:30:31,166 --> 00:30:34,666 My experience has been good this year, 620 00:30:34,666 --> 00:30:38,300 we've noticed a lot more flow of people, 621 00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:40,000 a better revenue. 622 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,566 (crowd chattering) 623 00:30:44,566 --> 00:30:46,000 - [Voiceover] Welcome to Austin, 624 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,333 and I'm excited to tell you 625 00:30:47,333 --> 00:30:49,666 what starts here changes the world. 626 00:30:49,666 --> 00:30:53,133 - In 2013 about 10,000 Hispanic-owned businesses 627 00:30:53,133 --> 00:30:56,266 that were responsible for $4.8 billion dollars 628 00:30:56,266 --> 00:30:58,900 in terms of contributions to the economy. 629 00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:02,333 I believe that the surge and the explosive growth 630 00:31:02,333 --> 00:31:03,700 of the Hispanic-owned businesses 631 00:31:03,700 --> 00:31:05,933 matches the overall demographic. 632 00:31:05,933 --> 00:31:08,366 When you look at the fastest-growing demographic 633 00:31:08,366 --> 00:31:10,066 over all it's Hispanics. 634 00:31:10,066 --> 00:31:11,833 We wanna build small business capacity 635 00:31:11,833 --> 00:31:15,333 because at the beginning and at the end of the day 636 00:31:15,333 --> 00:31:20,066 the heartbeat of our American economy is small business. 637 00:31:20,066 --> 00:31:25,066 (slow rhythmic music) 638 00:31:27,933 --> 00:31:30,500 - [Adviser] I think that for Hispanics, for us, 639 00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:32,733 it's not difficult to open a business. 640 00:31:32,733 --> 00:31:35,733 I mean, we are hardworking people, 641 00:31:35,733 --> 00:31:40,733 so imagine adding all of that to a good idea, 642 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:43,366 then you have a winning combination. 643 00:31:43,366 --> 00:31:47,033 "Emprendedor U" is a small business program, 644 00:31:47,033 --> 00:31:50,733 education program, in which we help inspiring entrepreneurs 645 00:31:50,733 --> 00:31:54,366 and business owners to grow their businesses, 646 00:31:54,366 --> 00:31:56,100 and we do it all in Spanish. 647 00:31:56,100 --> 00:32:00,433 Many people think that just by translating information 648 00:32:00,433 --> 00:32:03,066 that makes it relevant for Spanish-speaking individuals 649 00:32:03,066 --> 00:32:04,566 and that's not the case, 650 00:32:04,566 --> 00:32:07,066 you need to culturalize it because you need to find 651 00:32:07,066 --> 00:32:09,866 a true connection so people can really understand 652 00:32:09,866 --> 00:32:11,100 what you're telling them. 653 00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:13,000 - (speaking Spanish) "Oficina legal". 654 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,500 There are new ideas coming out from immigrants all the time. 655 00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:20,033 My name is Karla Maria Valles González, I'm an attorney, 656 00:32:20,033 --> 00:32:23,000 and since I've just opened my own firm, 657 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,600 literally like two days before the classes started, 658 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,200 I went ahead and took the classes. 659 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,966 There are a lot of people with legal issues that 660 00:32:30,966 --> 00:32:32,833 don't know how to speak English, 661 00:32:32,833 --> 00:32:34,966 they have these issues 662 00:32:34,966 --> 00:32:37,333 but they're scared to access the system, 663 00:32:37,333 --> 00:32:39,400 and so to hear that someone can speak their language 664 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,266 and they can understand what's going on 665 00:32:41,266 --> 00:32:42,766 they need, they need that. 666 00:32:42,766 --> 00:32:44,533 And it's the same thing with the "Emprendedor U". 667 00:32:44,533 --> 00:32:46,500 There are a lot of Hispanics here in Austin 668 00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:48,233 who do have their businesses open, 669 00:32:48,233 --> 00:32:52,900 it helps them to have more confidence in their business, 670 00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:54,900 confidence in themselves. 671 00:32:56,900 --> 00:32:59,066 - [Adviser] I think there's a tale of two cities in Austin 672 00:32:59,066 --> 00:33:01,366 because, you know, we're the "progressive Austin", 673 00:33:01,366 --> 00:33:04,266 the crane is the Austin bird, 674 00:33:04,266 --> 00:33:05,933 but we've also been reported 675 00:33:05,933 --> 00:33:09,066 as the number one most economically segregated city. 676 00:33:09,066 --> 00:33:11,233 There's 30,000 Hispanic-owned businesses 677 00:33:11,233 --> 00:33:12,633 in a five county area, 678 00:33:12,633 --> 00:33:15,833 that's projected to grow almost 6-7%. 679 00:33:15,833 --> 00:33:18,866 But what we wanna do is make sure that the start-ups 680 00:33:18,866 --> 00:33:20,866 that are coming to the marketplace 681 00:33:20,866 --> 00:33:22,466 that they have the capacity 682 00:33:22,466 --> 00:33:24,900 to remain here in this great city 683 00:33:24,900 --> 00:33:26,900 and that we don't push them out. 684 00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:29,000 - [Capicci] (speaking Spanish) "¿Cómo lo sientes?" 685 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,400 It's not easy owning a business (laughs) 686 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,466 but I don't think I will go back to be an employee. 687 00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:40,266 - We'll return to our audience in a little bit 688 00:33:40,266 --> 00:33:42,833 but first let's shift our conservation slightly 689 00:33:42,833 --> 00:33:45,933 to focus on civic engagement, perfect segue, 690 00:33:45,933 --> 00:33:47,666 and how healthy our community is 691 00:33:47,666 --> 00:33:49,900 when it comes to civic involvement. 692 00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:52,566 Of course all of you are very engaged in the community 693 00:33:52,566 --> 00:33:55,566 and Austin has a history of Chicanos and Latinos/Latinas 694 00:33:55,566 --> 00:33:57,833 fighting for our rights. 695 00:33:57,833 --> 00:34:01,866 How effective are we now in 2016 in engaging 696 00:34:01,866 --> 00:34:04,200 with government and city programs? 697 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,133 - [Emilio] I think we're more effective than we were before. 698 00:34:07,133 --> 00:34:12,133 In Austin there's places where we've taken steps backward 699 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,833 in other places in the state, 700 00:34:14,833 --> 00:34:16,233 but I think we're 701 00:34:16,233 --> 00:34:20,033 in a pretty good position organizationally. 702 00:34:20,033 --> 00:34:23,500 I think one of the things we need to start addressing too 703 00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:25,800 is this basic dilemma, 704 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,366 how do you deal with obvious advances 705 00:34:28,366 --> 00:34:30,400 that we've made in the area of education, 706 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,266 employment, and so forth? 707 00:34:32,266 --> 00:34:35,233 We have, for example, record numbers of young people 708 00:34:35,233 --> 00:34:36,666 that are graduating from high school 709 00:34:36,666 --> 00:34:40,966 and going to universities, top-tier research universities. 710 00:34:40,966 --> 00:34:42,866 A clear sign of advancement. 711 00:34:42,866 --> 00:34:46,266 But there's another side of the coin always, 712 00:34:46,266 --> 00:34:49,400 there's a serious gap of achievement 713 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,600 between Latino youth and white youth. 714 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,400 There's gaps in the area of employment and health 715 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,333 that continue to the point that we can say 716 00:35:00,333 --> 00:35:04,400 that they almost seem to be permanent structural problems. 717 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,400 We have to figure out a way to dialogue 718 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,033 in a very frank manner that acknowledges advances 719 00:35:14,033 --> 00:35:18,200 but also that recognizes that we're still concentrated 720 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,833 among the dropouts, 721 00:35:19,833 --> 00:35:23,900 we're still concentrated among the low-wage skilled workers. 722 00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:26,466 I think that's one of the challenges we face 723 00:35:26,466 --> 00:35:31,433 as we assume leadership positions in the city as a whole. 724 00:35:31,433 --> 00:35:32,933 - [Josefina] Mona. 725 00:35:32,933 --> 00:35:37,766 - [Mona] One of the concerns that I have is that what I see 726 00:35:39,133 --> 00:35:42,800 with so many of our Hispanic, Latino families 727 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,466 including those that have just arrived, 728 00:35:45,466 --> 00:35:49,500 they are very busy, and they are busy surviving. 729 00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:54,500 This is a huge number of the population. 730 00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:57,966 When I say that we are growing very fast in Dove Springs 731 00:35:57,966 --> 00:36:00,666 and that we have the highest number, 732 00:36:00,666 --> 00:36:03,100 the fastest growth of youth, 733 00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:04,700 I'm very proud of that 734 00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:06,700 because those families tend to be large 735 00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:08,300 and they tend to be robust 736 00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:11,433 and they are filled with excitement about life 737 00:36:11,433 --> 00:36:13,033 and they wanna succeed, 738 00:36:13,033 --> 00:36:16,266 but they're also very poor. 739 00:36:16,266 --> 00:36:20,066 And so when you're in that situation 740 00:36:20,066 --> 00:36:23,966 UT, which is only about, what? Six miles away? 741 00:36:23,966 --> 00:36:27,933 Might as well be 60 or 600 or 6,000, 742 00:36:27,933 --> 00:36:31,566 because they are busy, and they're busy surviving. 743 00:36:31,566 --> 00:36:35,700 And so when we speak of leadership we need to think about 744 00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:39,533 the best ways to teach leadership 745 00:36:39,533 --> 00:36:42,800 and to find those natural leaders 746 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,133 instead of them heading off to gangs 747 00:36:45,133 --> 00:36:47,200 and to other negative things, 748 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,233 to really find them and to really excite them 749 00:36:51,233 --> 00:36:54,466 about learning and about leading. 750 00:36:54,466 --> 00:36:57,166 And what that means in this city, 751 00:36:57,166 --> 00:36:58,800 what it means in their "barrio", 752 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,700 what it means in their neighborhood, 753 00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:04,033 and how it can really change not only their lives 754 00:37:04,033 --> 00:37:06,200 but truly their family's lives 755 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,633 because they care about that. 756 00:37:08,633 --> 00:37:12,466 So I wanna see the conversation elevated 757 00:37:12,466 --> 00:37:15,600 to the level of deploying the resources 758 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,000 for true leadership development, 759 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,666 because we've given this a lot of lip service over the years 760 00:37:21,666 --> 00:37:24,366 and those kids, they drop out of school, 761 00:37:24,366 --> 00:37:26,633 and I'll tell you why they drop out, 762 00:37:26,633 --> 00:37:28,300 because they have to go to work. 763 00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:32,800 So many of them get to 16, legal age for dropping oUT, 764 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,933 and they go on and you find them in jobs 765 00:37:35,933 --> 00:37:37,800 and they're supporting their families. 766 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,966 - [Carmen] And they need to vote. 767 00:37:38,966 --> 00:37:41,433 I mean, I think just because 768 00:37:41,433 --> 00:37:43,800 on the topic of civic engagement. 769 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,733 What Senator Barrientos said, we've made, 770 00:37:45,733 --> 00:37:49,633 and I agree with Emilio too about the progress, 771 00:37:49,633 --> 00:37:52,166 we've gotten a step further. 772 00:37:52,166 --> 00:37:54,933 I think it's no secret that we have 773 00:37:54,933 --> 00:37:57,600 low voter turnout among Latinos, 774 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,233 and there are a lot of people who care, 775 00:38:00,233 --> 00:38:03,700 and it's not all because people don't have the right to vote 776 00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:05,133 there's a combination of things, 777 00:38:05,133 --> 00:38:07,400 it's a lot of what Mona's been talking about. 778 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,400 I have a lot of faith in the dreamers, 779 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,600 I have a lot of faith in the young civic 780 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,800 and social justice movements that are encouraging people 781 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,066 to be more of a political process, 782 00:38:17,066 --> 00:38:19,533 and I serve on Independent Citizens Redistricting Commission 783 00:38:19,533 --> 00:38:21,033 that drew Austin's 10 districts 784 00:38:21,033 --> 00:38:22,633 thanks to the work of Senator Barrientos 785 00:38:22,633 --> 00:38:24,866 and the whole coalition that pushed it, 786 00:38:24,866 --> 00:38:27,533 and it was an intense election process, 787 00:38:27,533 --> 00:38:29,500 there were about 500 people who applied 788 00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:32,566 to be on the Commission, it was narrowed down to 60, 789 00:38:32,566 --> 00:38:35,333 and then they, literally by the luck of the draw, 790 00:38:35,333 --> 00:38:38,233 five of the first eight commissioners were Latinos, 791 00:38:38,233 --> 00:38:39,700 four Latinas. 792 00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:42,133 So we actually had to look for white men 793 00:38:42,133 --> 00:38:44,933 to even out our Redistricting Commission 794 00:38:44,933 --> 00:38:46,633 and as well as to represent 795 00:38:46,633 --> 00:38:49,000 African-Americans and Asians in the community. 796 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,466 And it's not perfect, 797 00:38:50,466 --> 00:38:51,833 and the first round of elections 798 00:38:51,833 --> 00:38:54,333 it was a bumpy ride, it still is, 799 00:38:54,333 --> 00:38:57,300 but we are definitely several steps closer 800 00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:00,933 to not only talking to our kids and our youth about 801 00:39:00,933 --> 00:39:03,366 why voting is important, and civic engagement 802 00:39:03,366 --> 00:39:05,766 and leadership in addressing some of these issues, 803 00:39:05,766 --> 00:39:07,133 but also having politicians 804 00:39:07,133 --> 00:39:08,666 that live in their neighborhoods, 805 00:39:08,666 --> 00:39:11,266 that come to their meetings, that come to their schools, 806 00:39:11,266 --> 00:39:14,000 and they actually see people in positions of leadership. 807 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,766 And so, we have a long way to go but we are making progress. 808 00:39:17,766 --> 00:39:20,833 - Number one, it starts right here. 809 00:39:20,833 --> 00:39:23,266 I don't care how poor people are, 810 00:39:23,266 --> 00:39:26,533 it begins with that mother and father and those children. 811 00:39:26,533 --> 00:39:28,966 Government can do a lot of things, 812 00:39:28,966 --> 00:39:31,333 "pero aquí estoy, primero". 813 00:39:31,333 --> 00:39:34,066 As the saying goes, "El que no habla ni Dios lo oye", 814 00:39:34,066 --> 00:39:36,966 "Who does not speak not even God will hear". 815 00:39:36,966 --> 00:39:40,733 And people have to realize that this is a free country, 816 00:39:40,733 --> 00:39:41,933 I mean, you don't have to go out there 817 00:39:41,933 --> 00:39:45,333 and call the city council members names, 818 00:39:45,333 --> 00:39:46,466 but you get up there 819 00:39:46,466 --> 00:39:48,933 and give your statement of how you feel. 820 00:39:48,933 --> 00:39:53,033 "Aquí comienza" with individuals, "el padre y la madre". 821 00:39:54,066 --> 00:39:59,000 (vibrant music) 822 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,000 (slow music) 823 00:40:11,366 --> 00:40:13,033 - [Jill] It's so excited to see that 824 00:40:13,033 --> 00:40:18,033 10-1 is taking place and that it's working so well. 825 00:40:20,333 --> 00:40:22,166 Harmony isn't ... 826 00:40:22,166 --> 00:40:24,700 My name is Jill Ramirez Coronado 827 00:40:24,700 --> 00:40:28,900 and I live in Battle Bend area of Austin, 828 00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:31,533 but of course our business is in Montopolis, 829 00:40:31,533 --> 00:40:34,566 so I'm actually in two neighborhoods 830 00:40:34,566 --> 00:40:38,333 and I'm pretty involved in both. 831 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,933 You know there's a few bumps in the road 832 00:40:44,933 --> 00:40:47,333 but what we have seen from, you know, 833 00:40:47,333 --> 00:40:50,566 after it happened was that really the representatives 834 00:40:50,566 --> 00:40:54,733 are really trying to be more engaged with the constituents. 835 00:40:54,733 --> 00:40:58,566 - I think it's going pretty good. 836 00:40:58,566 --> 00:41:01,900 We were able to do a lot of projects in my neighborhood 837 00:41:01,900 --> 00:41:03,600 that we've been struggling 838 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,333 trying to convince the city of doing. 839 00:41:08,433 --> 00:41:10,833 And historically it's always been the minority, 840 00:41:10,833 --> 00:41:14,133 it's always been in last in line 841 00:41:14,133 --> 00:41:17,266 waiting for anything to come from the city, 842 00:41:17,266 --> 00:41:19,000 and we've been neglected over years. 843 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,200 So I believe that that was one of the reasons why 844 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,933 is because we didn't have the influence. 845 00:41:25,933 --> 00:41:27,366 - But generally there's a great man with, 846 00:41:27,366 --> 00:41:31,166 number one, ungentleman, 847 00:41:31,166 --> 00:41:32,400 I don't know why the called it that 848 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,233 but a true gentleman would have never settled 849 00:41:35,233 --> 00:41:38,000 for having people who are second-class citizens. 850 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,533 I think that having the right personnel at city hall 851 00:41:42,533 --> 00:41:46,033 and people who understand what they went through 852 00:41:46,033 --> 00:41:49,000 in East Austin is like that shared history 853 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,233 that is important. 854 00:41:51,233 --> 00:41:53,233 - The problem that we're struggling with right now 855 00:41:53,233 --> 00:41:55,466 is the young people, 856 00:41:55,466 --> 00:42:00,366 the young voters up to 30 or 35. 857 00:42:00,366 --> 00:42:02,433 They're turn out is horrible, 858 00:42:02,433 --> 00:42:05,233 a lot of them don't see up to vote. 859 00:42:06,333 --> 00:42:07,866 I really feel like, you know, 860 00:42:07,866 --> 00:42:09,800 it comes down to grass root, 861 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,333 I like to got to the places in my area, the businesses, 862 00:42:13,333 --> 00:42:15,433 and I talk to people, you know, 863 00:42:15,433 --> 00:42:18,266 and one of the things that I tell them, 864 00:42:18,266 --> 00:42:20,800 I say, "You know, you're the ones that don't speak out, 865 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,766 "not even the Lord could hear you". 866 00:42:22,766 --> 00:42:26,100 - I think that they understand that now they have 867 00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:28,766 a way to get their say so, 868 00:42:28,766 --> 00:42:32,900 and that that will bring about voting they go. 869 00:42:32,900 --> 00:42:34,300 They did change my life so, you know what? 870 00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:36,500 I need to continue being involved. 871 00:42:36,500 --> 00:42:41,500 (slow music) 872 00:42:43,866 --> 00:42:45,800 And the way we're used to nowhere, 873 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,133 people forgot about us. 874 00:42:47,133 --> 00:42:50,233 I do really get a sense that a lot of my niece 875 00:42:50,233 --> 00:42:53,866 in their community were a priority. 876 00:42:53,866 --> 00:42:56,333 - [Voiceover] I welcome you all to city hall 877 00:42:56,333 --> 00:42:58,300 for a truly historic event. 878 00:42:58,300 --> 00:43:00,966 - 10-1 gave us a big voice, 879 00:43:00,966 --> 00:43:04,700 and we were able to get four minorities elected. 880 00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:08,033 That added a lot of influence. 881 00:43:09,866 --> 00:43:12,733 Now we have a voice. 882 00:43:15,833 --> 00:43:17,633 - Let's get to the questions from the audience, 883 00:43:17,633 --> 00:43:20,333 I'm very interested in following it up with body 884 00:43:20,333 --> 00:43:23,233 and what we can specifically do to change that. 885 00:43:23,233 --> 00:43:26,666 - [Attendant] I guess I'll just touch on a few themes. 886 00:43:26,666 --> 00:43:29,266 We politically navigate through the world through language 887 00:43:29,266 --> 00:43:33,233 and we've been talking about identity in specific terms 888 00:43:33,233 --> 00:43:35,733 but I'm more interested in spelling, 889 00:43:35,733 --> 00:43:37,733 because particularly for like queer 890 00:43:37,733 --> 00:43:39,566 and non-gender binary people, 891 00:43:39,566 --> 00:43:42,200 Spanish is such a gendered language. 892 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,200 Do you guys, for the people in the panel, 893 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,366 do you, when you consider yourself in whatever term it is, 894 00:43:48,366 --> 00:43:50,266 do you consider also alternative spellings 895 00:43:50,266 --> 00:43:53,066 like Chicano with an "x" or Latino with an "x" 896 00:43:53,066 --> 00:43:56,200 or with the "@" sign at the end of Latino or Latina, 897 00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:01,200 to be inclusive for all, for even a more diverse community? 898 00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:03,833 - [Carmen] The intention is certainly there 899 00:44:03,833 --> 00:44:06,333 and I think we're addressing it, 900 00:44:06,333 --> 00:44:07,600 I think specially -- 901 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,566 Well, I would say in younger generations 902 00:44:09,566 --> 00:44:13,466 we talk more about gender politics and LBGTQ issues 903 00:44:13,466 --> 00:44:16,433 perhaps more than the previous generation did, 904 00:44:16,433 --> 00:44:17,900 but then again there had been 905 00:44:17,900 --> 00:44:20,666 pioneers in this area for decades 906 00:44:20,666 --> 00:44:24,600 and there actually is a category of like queer chicana lit, right? 907 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,900 Which for some of us that was such a breakthrough relief 908 00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:29,933 to find an outlet that embraces 909 00:44:29,933 --> 00:44:33,200 both Latino culture and queer culture. 910 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,833 I learned about spelling Latina/Latino with an "x" 911 00:44:36,833 --> 00:44:39,166 only about three or four years ago 912 00:44:39,166 --> 00:44:44,166 because I had used the "@" symbol to mean Latina or Latino, 913 00:44:45,266 --> 00:44:46,200 and then it was pointed out to me that 914 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,933 that is very gender binary, 915 00:44:47,933 --> 00:44:50,600 and if we're gonna be inclusive of the whole gender spectrum 916 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,966 of people who identify as transgender or gender queer, 917 00:44:53,966 --> 00:44:56,500 or we just wanna get gender out of it for a second, 918 00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:59,066 we spell Latino with an "x". 919 00:44:59,066 --> 00:45:00,533 So I don't know if the spelling 920 00:45:00,533 --> 00:45:02,533 necessarily addresses the issue 921 00:45:02,533 --> 00:45:03,966 but at least we're talking about it 922 00:45:03,966 --> 00:45:06,333 and they know it's a relief to a lot of Latinos 923 00:45:06,333 --> 00:45:09,233 who have felt kind of on the margin for a long time. 924 00:45:09,233 --> 00:45:10,766 - [Josefina] It's great. 925 00:45:10,766 --> 00:45:13,900 - [Emilio] This is important symbolic gestures, you know, 926 00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:15,333 the "x" and so forth 927 00:45:15,333 --> 00:45:17,733 that doesn't mean it's not important, it's very important, 928 00:45:17,733 --> 00:45:20,633 but for me also what is important is 929 00:45:20,633 --> 00:45:23,666 where these issues are raised, 930 00:45:23,666 --> 00:45:27,233 and I think the LGBT community, the feminists earlier, 931 00:45:27,233 --> 00:45:30,666 I think discovered that in these social-political settings 932 00:45:30,666 --> 00:45:35,666 where we promote these values of neutrality, 933 00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:39,700 reciprocity and respect for the rights of others, 934 00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:43,033 we have the natural social-political environment 935 00:45:43,033 --> 00:45:47,100 where we can talk openly and honestly about theses things. 936 00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:51,033 And talk about inclusion, 937 00:45:51,033 --> 00:45:55,300 including all parts of our community with respect, 938 00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:58,833 and also to promote their concerns and interests, 939 00:45:58,833 --> 00:46:00,133 absolutely. 940 00:46:00,133 --> 00:46:01,266 - [Josefina] Great question, thank you. 941 00:46:01,266 --> 00:46:03,066 Miss. - [Veronica] Thank you. 942 00:46:03,066 --> 00:46:04,733 My name is Veronica Forsythe, 943 00:46:04,733 --> 00:46:08,500 and I was hoping that you could comment on what I see 944 00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:13,500 as the lack of leadership in the city and, 945 00:46:14,866 --> 00:46:16,866 don't know if the word that I wanna use is defend, 946 00:46:16,866 --> 00:46:19,400 but talk about lots of the virtues 947 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,666 of the Hispanic community, Latin community, 948 00:46:23,666 --> 00:46:25,000 Mexican-American community, 949 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,900 because what I see is that national level 950 00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:32,900 is all this stereotyping us as, 951 00:46:34,066 --> 00:46:35,400 I don't wanna repeat what you all know 952 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,166 what they're stereotyping us as. 953 00:46:38,166 --> 00:46:40,733 And I don't see anybody in Texas, 954 00:46:40,733 --> 00:46:44,033 any of our leaders that serve us, 955 00:46:44,033 --> 00:46:47,733 coming up and saying, "Wait a minute, 956 00:46:47,733 --> 00:46:50,733 "that offends the people that we serve 957 00:46:50,733 --> 00:46:54,066 "and that is not what we see in our community". 958 00:46:54,066 --> 00:46:58,100 So I'm like kind of upset that nobody 959 00:46:58,100 --> 00:47:01,066 in a leadership position has really come up 960 00:47:01,066 --> 00:47:03,866 and said anything to that effect. 961 00:47:03,866 --> 00:47:08,866 And our community also hopefully will unite 962 00:47:09,733 --> 00:47:11,333 and stand up for that too, 963 00:47:11,333 --> 00:47:15,366 because talking about stereotypes, as you can see I'm tall 964 00:47:15,366 --> 00:47:17,366 and all time, right? 965 00:47:17,366 --> 00:47:18,766 Okay, we agree on that. 966 00:47:18,766 --> 00:47:20,033 All the time I'm asked, 967 00:47:20,033 --> 00:47:21,700 "and, so, where are you from?" 968 00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:24,166 And I have to say, "Well, I was born here 969 00:47:24,166 --> 00:47:25,900 "but my parents are from Mexico, 970 00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:27,600 "and they're from Mexico", 971 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:28,833 and then it's like, 972 00:47:28,833 --> 00:47:31,166 "Oh, so, but where are your grandparents from? 973 00:47:31,166 --> 00:47:33,733 "They surely are like Europeans" 974 00:47:33,733 --> 00:47:35,233 and I don't fit in that stereotype 975 00:47:35,233 --> 00:47:37,700 so people starts asking, 976 00:47:37,700 --> 00:47:39,166 "Oh, so, what about back, back?" 977 00:47:39,166 --> 00:47:42,200 I say, "Well, how about 400 years in Mexico, 978 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,200 "would that be sufficient for you?" 979 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,066 So, yes, I am tall, I have an accent, 980 00:47:47,066 --> 00:47:48,800 I'm Mexican-American, 981 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:53,800 and I am not happy to see that nobody has stand up for us 982 00:47:55,166 --> 00:47:58,366 to say, "No, that is not acceptable, that offends us". 983 00:47:58,366 --> 00:47:59,833 So, thank you. - [Josefina] Thank you. 984 00:47:59,833 --> 00:48:03,200 Do you all agree that no one is standing up for 985 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,466 against the negative stereotypes? 986 00:48:05,466 --> 00:48:08,200 - Part of our problem throughout the whole country, 987 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,900 throughout all groups, 988 00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:15,366 is that we have to ... 989 00:48:15,366 --> 00:48:18,533 If you want something done and they're not doing it 990 00:48:18,533 --> 00:48:20,700 you get up there and do it. 991 00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:25,666 We need fewer politicians and more public servants, 992 00:48:25,666 --> 00:48:29,366 and the way to do that is to vote. 993 00:48:29,366 --> 00:48:33,900 Very simple, very easy, it's free, 994 00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:37,100 otherwise you're gonna keep getting 995 00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:38,666 what you've been getting. 996 00:48:38,666 --> 00:48:40,133 - What can we do? 997 00:48:40,133 --> 00:48:41,566 The question I have for the panelists right now is, 998 00:48:41,566 --> 00:48:44,633 what can we do to get more people out to vote, 999 00:48:44,633 --> 00:48:48,933 to exercise their voice and their right? 1000 00:48:48,933 --> 00:48:50,633 - [Emilio] Public education, there's a direct cause 1001 00:48:50,633 --> 00:48:52,966 or relationship between low education 1002 00:48:52,966 --> 00:48:55,233 of Latino and the franchise, 1003 00:48:55,233 --> 00:48:58,566 the higher you're educated the more you participate. 1004 00:48:58,566 --> 00:49:00,533 I think that's one way to do it. 1005 00:49:00,533 --> 00:49:02,666 The other is to speak to the youth, 1006 00:49:02,666 --> 00:49:04,633 our population is youthful population, 1007 00:49:04,633 --> 00:49:06,500 youth does not vote, 1008 00:49:06,500 --> 00:49:08,500 so you need to reach out to the youth. 1009 00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:10,933 That's not to say people haven't done it, 1010 00:49:10,933 --> 00:49:13,866 I mean, we have a long history, 1011 00:49:13,866 --> 00:49:16,666 the Southwest Voter Registration and Educational Fund 1012 00:49:16,666 --> 00:49:21,266 in San Antonio built a movement around this issue, 1013 00:49:21,266 --> 00:49:23,766 registering people to vote and get them out to vote, 1014 00:49:23,766 --> 00:49:25,066 and it continues. 1015 00:49:25,066 --> 00:49:27,833 But I'm just basically affirming some things 1016 00:49:27,833 --> 00:49:31,700 that I think are important. 1017 00:49:31,700 --> 00:49:32,900 - Senator Barrientos, 1018 00:49:32,900 --> 00:49:35,933 you've dealt with this issue for decades. 1019 00:49:35,933 --> 00:49:37,433 Have you seen a change? 1020 00:49:37,433 --> 00:49:41,400 What are the effective steps to get people out to vote? 1021 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:42,866 - There has been a change. 1022 00:49:42,866 --> 00:49:47,133 There are several things that we have done in the past. 1023 00:49:47,133 --> 00:49:48,933 One, part of our culture is that 1024 00:49:48,933 --> 00:49:53,933 you have to ask the individual, ask, 1025 00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:56,400 if you don't ask they're gonna say, 1026 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,833 "They're not interested" or whatever. 1027 00:49:57,833 --> 00:49:59,800 Ask, "Would you please go out and vote? 1028 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,166 "Would you vote for me? 1029 00:50:01,166 --> 00:50:03,000 "I'm going to do this, this, this and that". 1030 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,300 You have to ask first. 1031 00:50:04,300 --> 00:50:06,900 Number two, traditionally in Texas 1032 00:50:06,900 --> 00:50:09,833 and throughout the county, the Southwest anyway, 1033 00:50:09,833 --> 00:50:13,333 the money for advertising and going door to door, 1034 00:50:13,333 --> 00:50:15,366 and newspapers and TV 1035 00:50:15,366 --> 00:50:19,433 has gone into suburbs of white America, 1036 00:50:19,433 --> 00:50:22,833 and the money not being there we had to stretch the dollar 1037 00:50:22,833 --> 00:50:24,466 in order to get elected, 1038 00:50:24,466 --> 00:50:26,133 we had to make our own silk screens, 1039 00:50:26,133 --> 00:50:28,966 our own signs, our own posters, 1040 00:50:28,966 --> 00:50:31,766 we even put them on coat hangers and threw them up in trees 1041 00:50:31,766 --> 00:50:33,133 so that you could see 'em. 1042 00:50:33,133 --> 00:50:34,766 We did a whole bunch of new things 1043 00:50:34,766 --> 00:50:37,733 in order to get the "raza" out to vote. 1044 00:50:37,733 --> 00:50:39,466 And they will come out to vote 1045 00:50:39,466 --> 00:50:42,700 but the campaign has got to be done just right. 1046 00:50:42,700 --> 00:50:44,700 - [Carmen] I think it involves listening too. 1047 00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:49,566 I'll just briefly say that what's being talked about is, 1048 00:50:49,566 --> 00:50:53,066 what are the issues that are affecting people day to day, 1049 00:50:53,066 --> 00:50:56,400 and we have to create the space for those conversations 1050 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,166 and on those conversations so that 1051 00:50:58,166 --> 00:50:59,833 we speak for ourselves in our communities, 1052 00:50:59,833 --> 00:51:02,666 and our youth can speak for themselves and not be spoken for 1053 00:51:02,666 --> 00:51:04,700 'cause I think for decades people saw a system 1054 00:51:04,700 --> 00:51:07,466 that wasn't working for them, that didn't represent them, 1055 00:51:07,466 --> 00:51:09,466 didn't see politicians who looked like them, 1056 00:51:09,466 --> 00:51:13,033 and then when they do see politicians that's, you know, 1057 00:51:13,033 --> 00:51:15,133 some are really public servants, 1058 00:51:15,133 --> 00:51:16,866 as Senator Barrientos mentioned, 1059 00:51:16,866 --> 00:51:18,866 and some are in it for the politics. 1060 00:51:18,866 --> 00:51:21,133 And so it's a slow evolution but 1061 00:51:21,133 --> 00:51:24,233 it's getting out there and talking and it's listening, 1062 00:51:24,233 --> 00:51:26,733 and it's creating the space for that conversation. 1063 00:51:26,733 --> 00:51:28,533 I believe it works on a grass root level 1064 00:51:28,533 --> 00:51:30,800 but it's gonna take all of us. 1065 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,533 - There's a difference between internalizing 1066 00:51:34,533 --> 00:51:38,633 something that you believe in and you think it's important 1067 00:51:38,633 --> 00:51:41,100 and complain, 1068 00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:44,600 where you do it because somebody told you to do it 1069 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,000 or you're trying to make somebody happy. 1070 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,600 There's a very big difference in that. 1071 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,833 I see that for many of our Latinos, 1072 00:51:53,833 --> 00:51:56,133 for many, and it's just not Latinos, 1073 00:51:56,133 --> 00:52:01,133 but for many of our youth who aspire to succeed 1074 00:52:02,233 --> 00:52:05,066 they have yet to internalized the value 1075 00:52:05,066 --> 00:52:08,700 of living in this country in a democracy 1076 00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:13,700 and exercising that need and that right to vote. 1077 00:52:14,566 --> 00:52:16,366 They haven't internalized it. 1078 00:52:16,366 --> 00:52:17,633 Now, why is that? 1079 00:52:17,633 --> 00:52:19,366 It could be for a lot of different reasons, 1080 00:52:19,366 --> 00:52:20,800 but it could be because they haven't had 1081 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,733 the role modeling, perhaps, 1082 00:52:22,733 --> 00:52:25,566 or perhaps they're very intelligent and they are seeing 1083 00:52:25,566 --> 00:52:27,766 all of the political games that are being played 1084 00:52:27,766 --> 00:52:30,666 and they wish not be part of that. 1085 00:52:30,666 --> 00:52:33,533 We have to respect that, 1086 00:52:33,533 --> 00:52:35,700 they haven't fully internalized. 1087 00:52:35,700 --> 00:52:38,633 Once they internalize the value 1088 00:52:38,633 --> 00:52:40,366 they do what you were talking about, 1089 00:52:40,366 --> 00:52:43,866 it starts with at home and it starts with them, 1090 00:52:43,866 --> 00:52:47,066 and it's almost a heartfelt need. 1091 00:52:47,066 --> 00:52:48,300 When you internalize it 1092 00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:50,833 you're going to do something about it, 1093 00:52:50,833 --> 00:52:53,266 and that means that you're going to learn the issues, 1094 00:52:53,266 --> 00:52:55,266 you're going to attend those forums, 1095 00:52:55,266 --> 00:52:59,033 you're going to get excited about that election. 1096 00:52:59,033 --> 00:53:02,266 Until the internalization happens it's complaints. 1097 00:53:02,266 --> 00:53:07,266 - I think this bring goes directly to what a viewer asked, 1098 00:53:08,733 --> 00:53:10,966 goes to discrimination and some of this divisiveness 1099 00:53:10,966 --> 00:53:12,733 that we've been speaking about. 1100 00:53:12,733 --> 00:53:14,266 Juan Zuñiga Jr. asks, 1101 00:53:14,266 --> 00:53:15,933 "How do you suggest we handle discrimination 1102 00:53:15,933 --> 00:53:18,733 "against Latinos and Latinas and other people of color 1103 00:53:18,733 --> 00:53:21,866 "when confronted with in a workplace or other setting?" 1104 00:53:21,866 --> 00:53:23,700 - If I may take the first shot. 1105 00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:27,000 There are certain laws on the books already, 1106 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,366 people have to try to become aware of what those laws are 1107 00:53:30,366 --> 00:53:32,466 in discrimination in the workplace. 1108 00:53:32,466 --> 00:53:35,300 The laws are there, they have to be enforced, 1109 00:53:35,300 --> 00:53:38,400 but the individual being discriminated against 1110 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,600 does not speak up 1111 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,333 it'll keep getting what you've been getting. 1112 00:53:46,366 --> 00:53:48,400 - I think that's very, very true, 1113 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,500 and I also know that for a lot of people of color 1114 00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:52,400 there's retribution that comes 1115 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,033 from speaking out against things, 1116 00:53:54,033 --> 00:53:59,033 so in my experience in pointing out discrimination, 1117 00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:02,066 as an organizer you always have to have 1118 00:54:02,066 --> 00:54:03,600 power of analysis, 1119 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,800 so you kind of have to have a cost-benefit on strategy, 1120 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,966 you have to know your laws, you have to do your research, 1121 00:54:09,966 --> 00:54:12,300 but you also have to know who are your allies, 1122 00:54:12,300 --> 00:54:16,000 who are the people who share the same frame of reference 1123 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,166 and how can you articulate what you see 1124 00:54:19,166 --> 00:54:21,366 when sometimes it can be very emotional 1125 00:54:21,366 --> 00:54:24,733 and you can react without necessarily being helpful. 1126 00:54:24,733 --> 00:54:28,066 And I think it's very important that in the nation 1127 00:54:28,066 --> 00:54:31,266 we're talking more about race and race relations, 1128 00:54:31,266 --> 00:54:33,400 we're talking more about discrimination 1129 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,233 and things are coming to ahead, 1130 00:54:35,233 --> 00:54:38,100 but what we often find is that while the topic 1131 00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:40,066 of race and discrimination hasn't been popular 1132 00:54:40,066 --> 00:54:42,000 in the mainstream for a long time 1133 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,200 if you go into the households of people of color 1134 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:45,733 and immigrants and Latinos, 1135 00:54:45,733 --> 00:54:49,266 that conversation has been happening for a long, long time. 1136 00:54:49,266 --> 00:54:51,666 So we need to make it a common conversation 1137 00:54:51,666 --> 00:54:54,500 so that we can come to come on understandings 1138 00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:56,000 and have each other's backs 1139 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,366 so that when somebody calls it out 1140 00:54:58,366 --> 00:55:00,400 we actually analyze what's going on, 1141 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,200 we don't turn on the person who is blowing the whistle, 1142 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,166 because that's a real threat 1143 00:55:05,166 --> 00:55:08,166 and that happens with women facing sexism, 1144 00:55:08,166 --> 00:55:13,133 it happens with LBGTQ people facing discrimination. 1145 00:55:13,133 --> 00:55:14,633 We have to become each other's allies 1146 00:55:14,633 --> 00:55:18,766 and speak a common language about what we're experiencing. 1147 00:55:18,766 --> 00:55:20,600 - It feels like we've just started 1148 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,866 the surface of the conversation 1149 00:55:22,866 --> 00:55:26,266 but that is all the time that we have for tonight. 1150 00:55:26,266 --> 00:55:29,966 So I'd like to thank all of our panelists for joining us. 1151 00:55:29,966 --> 00:55:31,500 Thank you for being here. 1152 00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:34,733 You can see more KLRU stories about Austin's Latino Identity 1153 00:55:34,733 --> 00:55:38,033 and his Chicano history by visiting KLRU.org. 1154 00:55:38,033 --> 00:55:39,000 Thank you for watching, 1155 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,300 I'm Josefina Casati. 1156 00:55:40,300 --> 00:55:41,700 Good night. 1157 00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:46,700 (audience applauding) 1158 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:54,800 (vibrant music) 1159 00:56:32,366 --> 00:56:34,133 - [Voiceover] "Civic Summit" is made possible in part 1160 00:56:34,133 --> 00:56:36,433 by Texas Mutual Insurance, 1161 00:56:36,433 --> 00:56:40,366 providing workers compensation for Texas' employers.