1 00:00:05,066 --> 00:00:09,900 >> ILLINOIS MAY HAVE A BUDGET 2 00:00:05,966 --> 00:00:12,800 BUT SCORES OF SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS 3 00:00:08,100 --> 00:00:13,966 AND SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES ARE 4 00:00:09,900 --> 00:00:15,700 STILL WAITING FOR CASH THE STATE 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:18,066 OWES THEM. 6 00:00:13,966 --> 00:00:18,400 WHAT IS BEING DONE ABOUT IT? 7 00:00:15,700 --> 00:00:21,333 THE ILLINOIS OFFICERS SAY NOT 8 00:00:18,066 --> 00:00:24,066 ENOUGH. 9 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:26,566 WE'RE JOINED BY AMANDA VINICKY. 10 00:00:21,333 --> 00:00:29,300 FIRST, HOW MUCH DOES THE STATE 11 00:00:24,066 --> 00:00:30,600 OWE IN AGGREGATE? 12 00:00:26,566 --> 00:00:31,966 >> YOU RECALL, THE STATE KEPT ON 13 00:00:29,300 --> 00:00:33,933 SPENDING MORE THAN THE STATE WAS 14 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:36,333 TAKING IN AND ONE OF THE WAYS 15 00:00:31,966 --> 00:00:37,133 THAT ILLINOIS WAS ABLE TO GET 16 00:00:33,933 --> 00:00:38,966 AWAY WITH IT WAS DELAYING 17 00:00:36,333 --> 00:00:41,133 WRITING CHECKS. 18 00:00:37,133 --> 00:00:43,633 NOT TALKING ABOUT A DEFICIT OR 19 00:00:38,966 --> 00:00:45,466 THE UNFUNDED PENSION LIABILITY 20 00:00:41,133 --> 00:00:48,733 I'M TALKING ABOUT A BACKLOG OF 21 00:00:43,633 --> 00:00:50,733 OVERDUE, UNPAID BILLS THAT 22 00:00:45,466 --> 00:00:52,233 BALLOONED TO $15 BILLION. 23 00:00:48,733 --> 00:00:53,866 NOW NOT THAT YOU WOULD DO 24 00:00:50,733 --> 00:00:56,166 ANYTHING LIKE THIS. 25 00:00:52,233 --> 00:00:57,600 BUT LET'S IMAGINE... 26 00:00:53,866 --> 00:00:59,466 IF YOU WERE GOING TO RUN UP YOUR 27 00:00:56,166 --> 00:01:01,400 CREDIT CARD BILL AND DID NOT 28 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,966 PAY, YOU WOULD INCUR A TON OF 29 00:00:59,466 --> 00:01:04,466 INTEREST AND THE SAME THING FOR 30 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,766 THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. 31 00:01:01,966 --> 00:01:07,566 THERE IS A LAW THAT SAYS IF 32 00:01:04,466 --> 00:01:10,133 ILLINOIS IS MORE THAN THREE 33 00:01:05,766 --> 00:01:11,766 MONTHS LATE PAYING CERTAIN 34 00:01:07,566 --> 00:01:13,533 VENDORS IT TOO, BEGINS TO RACK 35 00:01:10,133 --> 00:01:16,600 UP INTEREST AND IT IS NOT CHEAP. 36 00:01:11,766 --> 00:01:17,233 SOME OF THE BILLS COST ILLINOIS 37 00:01:13,533 --> 00:01:19,433 UP TO 12% INTEREST. 38 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,833 >> SO -- 39 00:01:17,233 --> 00:01:24,666 >> THERE'S WAYS TO SMARTLY 40 00:01:19,433 --> 00:01:26,666 ATTACK THE BILL BACKLOG BUT WE 41 00:01:21,833 --> 00:01:28,000 HAVE TO DO THAT RIGHT AWAY. 42 00:01:24,666 --> 00:01:29,133 PEOPLE THINK NOW THAT WE HAVE A 43 00:01:26,666 --> 00:01:31,033 BUDGET WE SHOULD HAVE PAYMENTS 44 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,966 WITHOUT ACCESS TO THE CAPITAL 45 00:01:29,133 --> 00:01:34,000 IT'S AS IF WE DID NOT HAVE THE 46 00:01:31,033 --> 00:01:35,700 BUDGET YET FOR THE PURPOSES FOR 47 00:01:32,966 --> 00:01:37,000 THE PEOPLE AIT WHATTING PAYMENT 48 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:39,366 FROM THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. 49 00:01:35,700 --> 00:01:41,533 >> WHAT IS THE PLAN? 50 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:42,733 >> IT'S NOT JUST THE 51 00:01:39,366 --> 00:01:45,100 COMPTROLLER, MENDOZA IS MAKING A 52 00:01:41,533 --> 00:01:46,100 BIG DEAL ABOUT THIS. 53 00:01:42,733 --> 00:01:48,400 THE TREASURER WHO IS A DEMOCRAT 54 00:01:45,100 --> 00:01:50,566 SUPPORTS IT, TOO. 55 00:01:46,100 --> 00:01:50,966 AND THIS IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN 56 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,900 MIND GOING FORWARD SO DID 57 00:01:50,566 --> 00:01:54,700 REPUBLICANS. 58 00:01:50,966 --> 00:01:56,066 SENATOR BILL BRADY HE IS NOW THE 59 00:01:52,900 --> 00:01:57,766 TOP REPUBLICAN IN THE SENATE, 60 00:01:54,700 --> 00:01:59,266 HAD SOMETHING LIKE THIS PLANNED 61 00:01:56,066 --> 00:02:01,066 IN THE BUDGET HE PROPOSED A 62 00:01:57,766 --> 00:02:03,233 BUDGET THAT THE GOVERNOR, BY THE 63 00:01:59,266 --> 00:02:03,833 WAY, SAID HE WOULD SUPPORT AND 64 00:02:01,066 --> 00:02:05,000 GROUPS LIKE THE CIVIC FEDERATION 65 00:02:03,233 --> 00:02:07,200 DO, TOO. 66 00:02:03,833 --> 00:02:09,233 HERE IS THE PLAN... 67 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:11,033 WHEN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY PASSED 68 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,233 A BUDGET LEGISLATORS AUTHORIZED 69 00:02:09,233 --> 00:02:14,866 A BOND ISSUE. 70 00:02:11,033 --> 00:02:15,400 BORROWING $6 BILLION THAT COULD 71 00:02:12,233 --> 00:02:17,233 BE USED TO PAY DOWN THE BILL 72 00:02:14,866 --> 00:02:18,033 BACKLOG. 73 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:20,133 YOU MAY THINK ILLINOIS BORROW 74 00:02:17,233 --> 00:02:21,833 MORE? 75 00:02:18,033 --> 00:02:24,366 HERE IS WHY MENDOZA AND ALL OF 76 00:02:20,133 --> 00:02:26,200 THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS AND GROUPS 77 00:02:21,833 --> 00:02:27,733 SAY THAT IT MAKES SENSE. 78 00:02:24,366 --> 00:02:30,133 >> THE SAME AS A PERSON WITH 79 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:32,066 THEIR HOME MORTGAGE. 80 00:02:27,733 --> 00:02:33,600 IF A PERSON IS PAYING INTO THEIR 81 00:02:30,133 --> 00:02:35,666 MORTGAGE BUT PAYING 7% INTEREST 82 00:02:32,066 --> 00:02:39,100 ON THAT MORTGAGE LOAN. 83 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:41,100 AND THEY COULD GET A DEAL WHERE 84 00:02:35,666 --> 00:02:42,100 THEY PAY 3% IT'S COMMON SENSE IT 85 00:02:39,100 --> 00:02:44,333 IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO 86 00:02:41,100 --> 00:02:45,700 REFINANCE THE DEBT. 87 00:02:42,100 --> 00:02:47,566 YOU DO NOT ELIMINATE IT BUT 88 00:02:44,333 --> 00:02:49,266 PAYING LOWER INTEREST RATES ON 89 00:02:45,700 --> 00:02:50,033 THE DEBT. 90 00:02:47,566 --> 00:02:51,500 THE STATE OF ILLINOIS HAS $15 91 00:02:49,266 --> 00:02:53,966 BILLION IN DEBT. 92 00:02:50,033 --> 00:02:54,366 IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY DEBT I 93 00:02:51,500 --> 00:02:56,366 WOULD NOT BE MAKING THE CASE FOR 94 00:02:53,966 --> 00:02:58,800 BORROWING. 95 00:02:54,366 --> 00:03:00,600 BUT WHEN WE HAVE A $15 BILLION 96 00:02:56,366 --> 00:03:02,266 DEBT AND PAYING UP TO 12% 97 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,700 INTEREST ON PAYING OUR BILLS 98 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:06,333 LATE, THEN A REFINANCE 99 00:03:02,266 --> 00:03:06,633 OPPORTUNITY AT A MUCH LOWER 100 00:03:03,700 --> 00:03:07,833 INTEREST RATE IS JUST COMMON 101 00:03:06,333 --> 00:03:08,966 SENSE. 102 00:03:06,633 --> 00:03:10,833 >> ONLY THE RAUNER 103 00:03:07,833 --> 00:03:14,033 ADMINISTRATION CAN MOVE FORWARD 104 00:03:08,966 --> 00:03:14,400 ON BORROWING. 105 00:03:10,833 --> 00:03:16,500 MENDES SA SENT LETTERS TO THE 106 00:03:14,033 --> 00:03:18,066 GOVERNOR. 107 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:19,366 ONE RIGHT AFTER THE BUDGET 108 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:22,300 PASSED OVER THE GOVERNOR'S 109 00:03:18,066 --> 00:03:24,233 OBJECTIONS IN JULY AND ANOTHER 110 00:03:19,366 --> 00:03:28,700 ON THE 28TH OF LAST MONTH. 111 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:29,233 BOTH STRESSING THAT ILLINOIS IS 112 00:03:24,233 --> 00:03:30,300 SPENDING $2 MILLION A DAY PAYING 113 00:03:28,700 --> 00:03:34,366 INTEREST. 114 00:03:29,233 --> 00:03:34,700 REPUBLICANS OFTEN USE THE 115 00:03:30,300 --> 00:03:36,200 FIGURE, TOO, DURING THE BUDGET 116 00:03:34,366 --> 00:03:38,266 IMPASSE. 117 00:03:34,700 --> 00:03:40,666 WHILE IT WOULD NOT WIPE IT OUT 118 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:41,400 IT COULD MAKE A DENT AND ENABLE 119 00:03:38,266 --> 00:03:43,000 THE STATE TO STOP ACCRUING 120 00:03:40,666 --> 00:03:45,166 INTEREST. 121 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,566 MENDOZA SAYS THE GOVERNOR'S 122 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,600 OFFICE GAVE NO RESPONSE TO HER 123 00:03:45,166 --> 00:03:48,433 LETTERS. 124 00:03:45,566 --> 00:03:49,933 INSTEAD OF GOING FORWARD HE IS 125 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,933 DRAGGING HIS FEET. 126 00:03:48,433 --> 00:03:52,600 >> WHAT DOES THE GOVERNOR HAVE 127 00:03:49,933 --> 00:03:55,466 TO SAY? 128 00:03:50,933 --> 00:03:57,066 >> FUN NEW YOU ASK. 129 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:59,600 HE HELD A PRESS CONFERENCE AND I 130 00:03:55,466 --> 00:04:03,833 ASKED HIM WILL YOU COMMIT TO 131 00:03:57,066 --> 00:04:05,133 MOVING ON THIS BOND ISSUE? 132 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:06,633 HERE WAS HIS RESPONSE? 133 00:04:03,833 --> 00:04:09,033 >> BORROWING ON STOP OF THE 134 00:04:05,133 --> 00:04:09,833 SPENDING BEHAVIOR OF THE STATE 135 00:04:06,633 --> 00:04:12,700 GOVERNMENT IS NOT AN OPTIMAL 136 00:04:09,033 --> 00:04:15,100 ANSWER. 137 00:04:09,833 --> 00:04:17,166 WE WILL BE WORKING TO REFINANCE 138 00:04:12,700 --> 00:04:18,800 CERTAIN DEBT. 139 00:04:15,100 --> 00:04:21,833 BUT, AGAIN, ONE OF THE FLAWS IN 140 00:04:17,166 --> 00:04:22,133 OUR CURRENT BUDGET IS THERE WAS 141 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:24,200 NO APPROPRIATION FOR PAYING DOWN 142 00:04:21,833 --> 00:04:26,333 DEBT. 143 00:04:22,133 --> 00:04:28,066 AND TO GO TO MARKET AND TELL 144 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:29,900 BOND BUYERS, HEY, WE DON'T HAVE 145 00:04:26,333 --> 00:04:31,266 A BALANCED BUDGET EVEN NOW AND 146 00:04:28,066 --> 00:04:33,466 WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY 147 00:04:29,900 --> 00:04:34,066 APPROPRIATIONS TO PAY DOWN DEBT, 148 00:04:31,266 --> 00:04:35,233 WE NEED A PLAN TO REPAY THE 149 00:04:33,466 --> 00:04:37,700 DEBT. 150 00:04:34,066 --> 00:04:39,433 OTHERWISE WE SHOULDN'T BE GOING 151 00:04:35,233 --> 00:04:42,000 OUT TO A BORROWER AND ASKING FOR 152 00:04:37,700 --> 00:04:43,666 MORE FINANCING. 153 00:04:39,433 --> 00:04:46,166 >> SO TO CODE THAT, IT CERTAINLY 154 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:47,400 DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THE GOVERNOR 155 00:04:43,666 --> 00:04:50,033 IS ANY HURRY TO GET IT DONE NOW 156 00:04:46,166 --> 00:04:52,033 OR MAYBE EVER. 157 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:54,333 ANOTHER REPORTER ASKED RAUNER IF 158 00:04:50,033 --> 00:04:55,833 YOU CAN BORROW THE A4% INTEREST 159 00:04:52,033 --> 00:04:57,566 INSTEAD OF PAYING 12%, DOESN'T 160 00:04:54,333 --> 00:04:59,266 THAT SAVE THE STATE MONEY, WHY 161 00:04:55,833 --> 00:05:02,266 NOT GO FOR IT? 162 00:04:57,566 --> 00:05:05,200 HE REPEATED WHAT YOU JUST HEARD. 163 00:04:59,266 --> 00:05:06,066 I THEN TRIED ASKING BOTH RAUNER 164 00:05:02,266 --> 00:05:09,466 AND SPOKESWOMAN WHAT HE MEANT BY 165 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:11,900 REFINANCING CERTAIN DEBT. 166 00:05:06,066 --> 00:05:13,533 I DID NOT GET A DIRECT ANSWER. 167 00:05:09,466 --> 00:05:15,233 HIS SPOKESMAN SAID THAT RAUNER 168 00:05:11,900 --> 00:05:16,800 WORKED WITH THE COMPTROLLER TO 169 00:05:13,533 --> 00:05:18,533 ADDRESS THE BACKLOG AND THAT THE 170 00:05:15,233 --> 00:05:19,666 GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IS WORKING TO 171 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:22,333 SAVE TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO CUT 172 00:05:18,533 --> 00:05:24,066 DOWN ON FUTURE DEBT. 173 00:05:19,666 --> 00:05:26,733 THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE SAID THAT 174 00:05:22,333 --> 00:05:28,200 THE COMPTROLLER DOES HAVE THE 175 00:05:24,066 --> 00:05:31,266 ABILITY TO BORROW $600 MILLION 176 00:05:26,733 --> 00:05:31,600 FROM CERTAIN STATE FUNDS AND USE 177 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:33,033 THAT MONEY TO PAY DOWN THE BILL 178 00:05:31,266 --> 00:05:34,466 BACKLOG.