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PARIS?

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>> THANKS.

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THEY HAVE THE VOTES THAT IS THE

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MESSAGE TODAY FROM SENATE

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REPUBLICANS VOWING TO MOVE

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FORWARD ON HEARINGS AND A VOTE

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ON WHOEVER PRESIDENT TRUMP

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NOMINATES TO REPLACE JUSTICE

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RUTH BADER GINSBURG TO THE

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SUPREME COURT.

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SENATE MAJORITY LEADER MITCH

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McCONNELL DEFENDED THE

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CONTRADICTION BETWEEN HIS MOVE

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THIS YEAR VERSUS 2016 WHEN HE

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REFUSED TO HOLD HEARING FOR

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MERRICK GARLAND AND SENATOR DICK

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DURBIN SHOT BACK.

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>> WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION UNDER

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THE CONSTITUTION SHOULD WE

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CHOOSE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WITH

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THE PRESIDENT AS THE SAME PARTY

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AS THE SENATE TO ADVANCE A

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NOMINATION AND WE WILL DO THAT

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THIS YEAR.

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>> MOST OF THE PEOPLE I

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REPRESENT IN ILLINOIS KNOW THE

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SUPREME COURT IS IMPORTANT BUT

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IF YOU ASK THEM WHY IS IT

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IMPORTANT TO YOU PERSONALLY THEY

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WOULD BE HARD-PRESSED TO COME UP

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WITH AN ANSWER.

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THERE IS AN EASY ANSWER...

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BECAUSE WE HAVE 20 MILLION

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AMERICANS PROTECTED BY THE

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AFFORDABLE CARE ACT WE KNOW THAT

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THIS PROTECTION IS AT RISK IN

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THE SUPREME COURT AND THE

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SUPREME COURT MAJORITY IS AT

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RISK FOR THE TACTICS OF MITCH

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McCONNELL.

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>> WE'LL GET RIGHT TO IT.

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THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

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AZIZ HUQ, FROM A LEGAL

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PERSPECTIVE IS THERE ANYTHING

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PROBLEMATIC ABOUT MOVING FORWARD

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IN A TRUNCATED TIME PERIOD HERE

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WHILE A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IS

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UNDERWAY ON A SUPREME COURT

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PICK?

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>> YES, A SUPREME COURT PICK IS

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ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT

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QUESTIONS THAT THE SENATE CAN

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DELIBERATE ON AND IF IT DOESN'T

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HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO IT

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CAREFULLY, THE RESULTS CAN BE

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DAMAGING.

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>> HOW MUCH TIME WOULD THAT BE?

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>> HISTORICAL PRACTICE REQUIRED

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PORE THAN 46 OR SEVEN DAYS THAT

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WE HAVE BETWEEN US AND THE

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ELECTION.

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>> JOSEPH MORRIS FROM A

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POLITICAL PERSPECTIVE IS IT THE

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RIGHT MOVE FOR REPUBLICANS TO

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MOVE FORWARD ON HEARINGS AND A

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POSSIBLE VOTE BEFORE THE

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NOVEMBER 3 ELECTION?

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>> SURE.

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IT CAN BE.

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THESE ARE ALL POLITICAL

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QUESTIONS THEY ARE NOT LEGAL

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QUESTIONS THERE IS NO LEGAL

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TIMELINE DESCRIBED IN THE

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CONSTITUTION THERE NEEDS TO BE A

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NOMINATION, CONFIRMATION AND

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APPOINTMENT.

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HOW MUCH TIME THAT TAKES IS UP

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TO THE POLITICAL ACTORS.

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THIS IS THE MOMENT WHEN POLITICS

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ENTERING THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM.

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IT'S IN THE STAFFING OF THE

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SYSTEM.

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IT SHOULD NOT ENTER BUT THIS IS

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THE TIME WHEN IT SHOULD AND THE

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AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD BE

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JUDGING THE PARTIES THE

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PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES AND THE

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PARTIES IN THE WHOLE ARE THESE

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ARE THE PEOPLE WE WANT FILLING

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THE VACANCIES.

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NOW IS THE TIME FOR THE AMERICAN

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TO BE STUDYING THAT AND

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PREPARING TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

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>> DO YOU SEE A CONTRADICTION IN

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WHAT McCONNELL DID BLOCKING

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HEARINGS SAYING THE PEOPLE

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SHOULD DECIDE VERSUS GOING

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FORWARD NOW?

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>> OF COURSE THERE IS A

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CONTRADICTION AND IT IS A

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POLITICALLY LEGITIMATE

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CONTRADICTION.

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THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT POLITICAL

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DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2016 AND NOW.

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IN 2016 THE PRESIDENT WAS IN THE

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OTHER PARTY.

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TODAY THE SENATE AND THE

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MAJORITY PARTY ARE THE SAME

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PARTY THAT MAKES A PROFOUND

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DIFFERENCE IN THE CALCULATIONS.

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>> IT IS NOT A HISTORICAL

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PRECEDENT AS MITCH McCONNELL

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HAS SAID.

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GERALD ROSENBERG HOW DOES THIS

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AFFECT THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE?

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U I THINK THAT IS A GREAT

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QUESTION AND THE ANSWER IS WE DO

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NOT KNOW.

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HERE ARE FACTORS I THINK ABOUT.

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ARE THERE VOTERS WHO WILL CHANGE

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THEIR INTENDED VOTE BECAUSE OF

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IT?

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I'M DOUBTFUL.

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ARE THERE VOTERS CITIZENS WHO

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WEREN'T GOING TO VOTE BUT WHO

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MIGHT VOTE BECAUSE OF THIS?

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UNLIKELY.

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WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT JOE

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BIDEN HAS RAISED A REMARKABLE

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AMOUNT OF MONEY SINCE JUSTICE

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GINSBURG'S DEATH THAT IS

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SUGGESTING HER DEATH AND THIS

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CONTROVERSY MAY BE INVIGORATING

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VOTERS WHO WERE GOING TO VOTE

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FOR THE DEMOCRATS.

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>> AZIZ HUQ WHAT ABOUT THAT?

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DOES RAISING A LOT OF MONEY

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EQUATE TO MORE VOTES FOR ONE

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SIDE OR THE OTHER WHEN IT COMES

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TO THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE AND THE

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SENATE RACES?

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>> WE DON'T KNOW HOW FUNDRAISING

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WILL MAP ON TO IN THIS ELECTION

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AT LEAST.

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A MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN

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PEOPLE [INAUDIBLE]

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HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR DISCOMFORT

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OF THE IDEA OF AN APPOINTMENT

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MOVING FORWARD.

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>> AND JOSEPH MORRIS WHAT ABOUT

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THE POLITICAL PROSPECTS OF

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VULNERABLE REPUBLICAN SENATORS.

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CORRECTBY GARDINER IN COLORADO,

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SUSAN COLLINS IN MAINE, DOES A

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QUICK APPOINTMENT DOES IT AFFECT

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THOSE RACES ONE WAY OR THE

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OTHER?

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>> I AGREE WITH THE PROFESSOR WE

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DON'T KNOW.

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IT CAN SLICE ONE WAY OR THE

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OTHER.

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THERE'S NOTHING INHERENTLY ODOR

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UNUSUAL OR WRONG WITH A SPEEDY

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CONFIRMATION PROCESS.

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JUSTICE GINSBURG WAS CONFIRMED

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42 DAYS FROM THE NOMINATION

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PROCEEDING.

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A CONFIRMATION PROCESS THAT I

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TOOK PART AS A LOW LEVEL RUNNER

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OF THE COFFEE MACHINE WAS

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JUSTICE STEVENS WHOSE PROCESS

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TOOK 19 DAYS.

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THERE ARE 42 DAYS BETWEEN NOW

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AND THE ELECTION THAT IS A

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POLITICAL JUDGMENT THAT Mr.

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TRUMP AND SENATOR McCONNELL

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AND THE VOTERS ARE ENTITLED TO

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MAKE.

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>> GERALD ROSENBERG DEMOCRATS

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SEEM TO BE DEBATING HOW TO

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APPROACH A RESPONSE THEY

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THREATENED COURTPACING IF THEY

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TAKE CONTROL OR ABOLISHING THE

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ELECTORAL COLLEGE FILIBUSTER

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VERSUS FOCUSING ON THE ECONOMY,

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HEALTHCARE, WHAT IS THE BEST

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ROAD FORWARD FOR DEMOCRATS?

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>> LOOK, WE KNOW AND PEOPLE LIKE

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US AND MAYBE YOUR AUDIENCE

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SOMETIMES FORGETS THIS THAT MOST

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PEOPLE DON'T SPEND TIME THINKING

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ABOUT THE SUPREME COURT.

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PEW DID A MAJOR SURVEY IN JULY

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AND AUGUST AND THEY ASKED PEOPLE

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WHAT REASONS THEY GAVE FOR

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SUPPORTING EITHER PRESIDENT

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TRUMP OR JOE BIDEN?

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NOBODY MENTIONED THE COURT.

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AND INTERESTINGLY IN 2016, 4% OF

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TRUMP VOTERS AND 3% OF CLINTON

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VOTERS DID MENTION THE COURT.

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I THINK THIS WILL BE AN ISSUE

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THAT WON'T WEIGH HEAVILY ON MOST

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VOTERS.

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HOWEVER IF THE DEMOCRATS WIN THE

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PRESIDENCY AND THE SENATE THEY

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HAVE A NUMBER OF TOOLS IN WHICH

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THEY CAN PRESSURE THE COURT TO

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VOTE IN WAYS THEY WANT OR NOT

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STOP THEM.

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I THINK THIS A NOMINATION AND

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APPOINTMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

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WOULD BE VERY BAD FOR THE

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COURT'S LEGITIMACY MOVING

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FORWARD.

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>> AZIZ HUQ SOMEONE WHO SERVED

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UNDER JUSTICE GINSBURG IN THE

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SUPREME COURT, WHAT DO YOU MAKE

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OF THE THREATS TO EXPAND THE

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COURT IF THIS MOTION GOES

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THROUGH?

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>> I THINK IF THE NOMINATION

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GOES THROUGH THIS YEAR BEFORE

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THE INAUGURATION THE STRIKING

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CONTRAST BETWEEN WHAT WAS DONE

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IN 2016 AND TODAY WILL LEAVE AN

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IMPRESSION WITH AMERICANS THAT

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THE COURT IS A PARTISAN

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INSTITUTION.

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IT WILL BE PERCEIVED AS A

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PARTISAN INSTITUTION AND ITS

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RULING WILL BE TREATED AS SUCH

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BY MANY, MANY PEOPLE.

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>> JOSEPH MORRIS WHAT ABOUT

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THAT?

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DO YOU THINK THAT AMERICAN

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CITIZENS MIGHT START TO QUESTION

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THE SUPREME COURT AND ITS

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NONPARTISAN NATURE?

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>> THE HORSE IS OUT OF THAT

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BARN.

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IT IS AN UNFORTUNATE FACT FOR

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THE LAST GENERATION OR MORE

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BECAUSE OF THE WAY IN WHICH

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NOMINATIONS CONTROVERSIES HAVE

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BEEN HANDLED.

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THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SEE THE

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COURT AS A POLITICAL AGENCY A

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THIRD BRANCH OF THE LEGISLATURE

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THAT IS A TERRIBLE THING AND THE

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POLITICS THAT SURROUNDS THE

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COURT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO

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BE PULLED BACK SERIOUSLY.

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THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE RIGHT IN

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BEING CAUTIOUS ABOUT IT.

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>> ALL RIGHT THESE ARE

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DISCUSSIONS WE WILL KEEP HAVING