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>> AND FIRST ILLINOIS HOUSE

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SPEAKER MICHAEL MADIGAN AND HIS

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ORGANIZATION ARE UNDER SCRUTINY

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ONCE AGAIN.

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A SOUTHWEST SUBURBAN MAN HAS

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BEEN CHARGED WITH MURDER BUT

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BEFORE THAT THAT MAN, MICHAEL

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PELKO WAS INVOLVED IN A PUSH TO

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OUT SEAT JIM DURKIN.

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JOINING US ARE THE WBEZ

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REPORTERS ON THAT STORY, STATE

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POLITICS REPORTERS DAVE

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McKINNEY AND TONY ARNOLD.

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DAVE AND TONY WELCOME BACK TO

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"CHICAGO TONIGHT."

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DAVE LET ME BEGIN WITH YOU.

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THE STORY BEGINS IN JULY 2017

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AND A MAN NAMED MIRAR IS FOUND

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DEAD IN AN ALLEY WITH TWO SHOTS

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TO THE HEAD.

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WHO DO POLICE ARREST?

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>> MICHAEL PELKO IS THE MAN

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POLICE BRING IN FOR QUESTIONING

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AND THEY RELEASE HIM WITHOUT

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CHARGES AT THAT POINT.

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SO HE GOES BACK TO HIS LIFE IN

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THE SOUTHWEST SUBURBS A LITTLE

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LEAGUE COACH.

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BUSINESS OWNER.

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SEEMINGLY UP STANDING CITIZEN.

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AND DECIDES HE WANTS TO GET

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INVOLVED IN POLITICS AND THAT IS

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WHEN HE MEETS THIS CANDIDATE WHO

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THE DEMOCRATS SEEMED TO LIKE A

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GREAT DEAL.

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A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER.

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>> TONY ARNOLD TELL US MORE

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ABOUT THE CANDIDATE SHE IS ELYSE

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HOFFENBURG WHY DID DEMOCRATS

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DECIDE THEY WANTED TO GET BEHIND

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HER?

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>> THEY WANTED TO TAKE A SWING

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AT JIM DURKIN, THE HOUSE

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MINORITY LEADER THE MOST

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POWERFUL REPUBLICAN IN THE

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ILLINOIS HOUSE OF

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REPRESENTATIVES AND DEMOCRATS

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HAVE NOT TAKEN A BIG SWING AT

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HIM IN YEARS.

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EIGHT YEARS.

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HE HAS BEEN UNOPPOSED TO THE

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NOVEMBER ELECTION.

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ELYSE HOFFENBURG IS A SCHOOL

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BOARD MEMBER AND IS A MOM AND

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DECIDES I WANT TO TAKE A SHOT

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AND RUN FOR REPRESENTATIVE

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AGAINST DURKIN.

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>> AND DEMOCRATS SEE A POTENTIAL

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UP AND COMER.

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MICHAEL PELKO COMES BACK INTO

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THE PICTURE AND SHOWS UP AT A

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CAMPAIGN LUNCH FOR ELYSE

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HOFFENBURG IN LAST SEPTEMBER AND

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WHAT DOES HE TELL HER?

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>> HE SAYS I WILL MAKE YOU A

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STAR.

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HE SAYS THAT HE CAN HELP HER

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ROUNDUP THOUSANDS OF PETITIONED

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SIGNATURES SHE NEEDS TO GET ON

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THE BALLOT HE IS PREPARED AND HE

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KNOWS EVERYBODY IN DISTRICT SHE

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CAME AWAY FEELING UNSETTLED

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BECAUSE THE GUY SEEMED

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GRANDIOSE.

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AND AFTER THAT POINT, HE

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DISAPPEARED.

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NEVER HEARD BACK FROM HIM.

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AND SO THEN WE FAST FORWARD TO

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DECEMBER.

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AND THERE IS AN UNEXPECTED

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CANDIDATE THAT SHOWS UP ON THE

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BALLOT.

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BESIDES HER AND THAT IS WHEN

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MICHAEL PELKO REEMERGES.

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>> THIS UNEXPECTED CANDIDATE, A

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DEMOCRAT IS CHALLENGING TO TAKE

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ON DURKIN HAPPENS IN DECEMBER OF

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LAST YEAR.

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AND STATE SENATOR STEVE LAND

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DACK RECOMMENDS MICHAEL PELKO TO

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FILE AN ELECTION BOARD COMPLAINT

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AGAINST ELYSE HOFFENBURG.

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WHY DID LANDDACK CHOOSE MICHAEL

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PELKO?

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>> MICHAEL PELKO EXPRESSED AN

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INTEREST GETTING INVOLVED IN

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POLITICS, HE SEEMED LIKE AN OK

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GUY BUT IT TURNS OUT LATER ON

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THAT HE FEELS LIKE HE HAS BEEN

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DUPED BECAUSE MICHAEL PELKO ENDS

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UP GETTING ARRESTED AND CHARGED

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FOR MURDER LATER.

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THIS PROCESS FOR CHALLENGING

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PETITIONS, THINK OF IT THIS WAY.

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WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO WIN AN

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ELECTION?

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RUN UNOPPOSED.

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SO CAMPAIGNS TRY TO KICK THE

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OPPONENT OFF AND THIS IS A FIGHT

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AMONG THE DEMOCRATS BETWEEN

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ELYSE HOFFENBURG AND HER

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DEMOCRATIC OPPONENT.

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>> ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT MURDER

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CHARGE THAT MURDER WHERE MICHAEL

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PELKO HAD BEEN INVESTIGATED ALL

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OF A SUDDEN HE IS CHARGED.

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AND TWO WEEKS LATER, MADIGAN'S

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TOP ELECTORAL LAWYER MICHAEL

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CASPAR ASKED THE STATE ELECTION

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BOARD TO WITHDRAW THE COMPLAINT

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HE FILED AGAINST THE OTHER

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CANDIDATE WHO IS CHALLENGING

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ELYSE HOFFENBURG.

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AND TELL ME MORE ABOUT THAT?

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>> WELL, I MEAN THERE ARE A LOT

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OF MOVING PIECES HERE.

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BUT THE CHALLENGE IS WITHDRAWN

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AFTER PELL CO-GETS INTO TROUBLE.

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HE IS NOT CHARGED YET WITH THE

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MURDER BUT HE GETS INVOLVED IN

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AN ALTERCATION AN ALLEGED

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SHOPLIFTING INCIDENT WHERE HE

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TRIES TO GO OUT OF A MENARDS

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WITH A CART FULL OF GOODS AND

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WHEN SOMEONE TRIES TO STOP HIM,

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A SECURITY GUARD MICHAEL PELKO

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GETS IN HIS CAR AND STRIKES HIM

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WITH THE VEHICLE.

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WHEN THAT HAPPENS, A WEEK OR SO

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LATER, THEN THE COMPLAINT IS

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WITHDRAWN AND THEN WE GO ABOUT

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COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND MICHAEL

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PELKO IS CHARGED WITH THE MURDER

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THAT HE WAS INVESTIGATED FOR

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AGAIN.

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AND ELYSE HOFFENBURG SEES THAT

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AND IS LIKE THIS IS UNSETTLING.

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>> UNSETTLING BECAUSE JUST TO

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AMPLIFY, DID MICHAEL CASPAR,

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MADIGAN'S TOP ELECTION ATTORNEY

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KNOW WHO MICHAEL PELKO WAS?

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>> CASPAR TOLD US NO HE DID NOT

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KNOW HIM.

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>> THIS IS A TYPICAL THING THAT

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CAMPAIGNS DO.

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THEY LOOK FOR SOMEBODY LOCAL TO

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CHALLENGE THE CANDIDACY OF

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SOMEBODY ELSE.

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AND IN THIS CASE THE STATE

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SENATOR FROM LIONS UP TO

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RECOMMENDED MICHAEL PELKO SAYING

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HE FELT HE WAS DUPED BECAUSE HE

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DID NOT KNOW WHAT MICHAEL PELKO

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WOULD END UP BEING CHARGED WITH.

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>> THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY APPEARS

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TO HAVE ENLISTED SOMEBODY WHO IS

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NOW CHARGED WITH MURDER TO HELP

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THEM KNOCK-OFF A CANDIDATE WHO

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IS RUNNING AGAINST SOMEONE THAT

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THE STATE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WANTS

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TO RUN UNOPPOSED.

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WHAT DID STATE DEMOCRATIC

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OFFICIALS SAY ABOUT THIS ATTEMPT

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USING MICHAEL PELKO?

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>> WELL, THE SPOKESMAN FOR

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MICHAEL MADIGAN TOLD US THAT THE

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STATE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DID NOT

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GET INVOLVED IN PETITION

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CHALLENGES.

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BUT THERE ARE SO MANY MECHANISMS

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AND ALL THAT MATTERED WAS THE

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PAPER TRAIL THAT HAD ALL OF

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MADIGAN'S KEY AIDES INVOLVED.

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IT IS A BLACK EYE A

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SELF-INFLICTED WOUND ON

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MADIGAN'S POLITICAL ORGANIZATION

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AND THERE HAVE BEEN QUITE A FEW

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OF THOSE OF LATE.

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>> MICHAEL CASPAR IS THE

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ATTORNEY ONE OF MADIGAN'S TOP

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ATTORNEYS WHO HELPED MICHAEL

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PELKO.

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WHAT DID HE SAY WHEN HE WAS

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QUESTIONED ABOUT WHY HE HAD BEEN

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WORKING WITH MICHAEL PELKO?

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>> WELL, HE SAID THAT MICHAEL

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PELKO WAS RECOMMENDED TO HIM AND

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REFERRED TO HIM BUT HE DID NOT

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REMEMBER WHO DID IT, HE SAID HE

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NOT EVER KNOWN MICHAEL PELKO

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SIMILAR TO WHAT MADIGAN SAYS.

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MICHAEL PELKO HAS NEVER BEEN

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PART OF HIS ORGANIZATION OR THE

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DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF ILLINOIS.

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OR MUCH OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

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>> BACK TO THE POINT YOU WERE

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MAKING, DAVE, ABOUT HOW THIS

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DOES NOT COME AT A GOOD TIME FOR

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MICHAEL MADIGAN.

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WHY NOT?

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>> WELL, NO.

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HE HAS HAD TO CLEAN HOUSE IN HIS

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POLITICAL ORGANIZATION.

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THE TOP AIDE TIMOTHY MAPES WAS

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PUSHED OUT HE HAD BULLYING AND

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HARASSMENT ALLEGATIONS BROUGHT

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AGAINST HIM.

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AND EARLIER WE SAW ANOTHER KEY

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OPERATIVE IN HIS WARD AND HE WAS

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HIT WITH SEXUAL HARASSMENT

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ALLEGATIONS.

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SO IT COMES AT A SENSITIVE TIME

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FOR MADIGAN HE IS BEING SINGLED

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OUT IN THE GUBERNATORIAL

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CAMPAIGN RAUNER IS ITS HADDING

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HIM.

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IT IS A BIT OF AN EMBARRASSMENT.

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>> AND THE SO WHAT FACTOR IS?

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U THAT THERE ARE LITERALLY IN

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ALL THE CAMPAIGNS HUNDREDS UPON

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HUNDREDS OF CAMPAIGN VOLUNTEERS

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WHO GO DOOR-TO-DOOR TRYING TO

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GET PEOPLE'S SIGNATURES AND SUCH

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AND LITTLE VETTING GETS DONE.

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AND HAD SOMEONE SAID HAVE YOU

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BEEN ARRESTED BEFORE?

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HAVE YOU BEEN CONVICTED OF A

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FELONY?

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IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE MADE THIS

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PROBLEM GO AWAY.

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>> SO THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT

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PEOPLE CONTINUE TO DEAL WITH AND

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THAT IS A VOLUNTEER WHO IS

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WORKING FOR A CANDIDATE THAT

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CANDIDATE DOESN'T REALLY KNOW IF

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THAT PERSON COMES WITH A CLEAN

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SLATE?

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>> THAT IS RIGHT.

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AND YOU KNOW, I THINK AGAIN,

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WITH THIS SITUATION WE ARE

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TALKING ABOUT THE MADIGAN

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ORGANIZATION THAT IT'S BEEN

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TIGHT-KNIT FOR A LONGTIME.

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AND WE ARE STARTING TO SEE

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THREADS GET PULLED IN DIFFERENT