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>> MAYOR LIGHTFOOT WEIGHS IN THE

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MURKY WATERS OF THE LEAD PIPE

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DEBATE AND ORDERED A HALT ON THE

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WATER METER INSTALLATIONS.

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OUR SPOTLIGHT POLITICAL TEAM HAS

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MORE ON THE POLITICAL FALLOUT OF

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THIS AND THE OTHER TOP STORIES

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OF THE WEEK.

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AND JOINING US ARE AMANDA

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VINICKY, PARIS SCHUTZ AND CAROL

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MARIN.

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MY ESTEEMED COLLEAGUES.

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FIRST, PARIS, THERE'S BREAKING

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NEWS.

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TELL US WHAT IT IS.

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>> THE STORY "THE SUN TIMES" PUT

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OUT REVEALING THAT ALDERMAN ED

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BURKE UNDER FEDERAL INDICTMENT

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HAD A BURNER CELLPHONE SO A

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CELLPHONE THAT YOU SORT OF PAY

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MONTH TO MONTH AND TOSS OUT WHEN

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YOU ARE DONE WHICH INDICATES

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THAT HE EITHER KNEW THE FEDS

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WERE ON HIS TRAIL AND WANTED TO

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CONDUCT BUSINESS WITHOUT ANYONE

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WIRETAPPING.

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THIS PHONE WAS NOT WIRETAPPED.

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AND WE HAVE LEARNED THAT THE

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CITY INSPECTOR GENERAL IS IN THE

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COMMITTEE ON FINANCE KIND OF

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DOING A REVIEW OF EVERYTHING ALL

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THE ACTIVITIES THAT SORT OF

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BURKE UNDERTOOK THERE.

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AND HAS BEEN IN THERE AND

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UNCOVERED SAFE DEPOSIT BOXES

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THAT BURKE WAS THE SOLE

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SIGNATORY ON AND THOSE BOXES HAD

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OLD WORKERS COMPENSATION FILES

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IN THEM.

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BURKE RAN THE $100 MILLION

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WORKERS COMPENSATION SYSTEM.

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THERE'S MORE THINGS TO BE

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DISCOVERED JUST ABOUT WHAT WENT

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ON IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE

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UNDER BURKE.

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>> AND WITH BURNER PHONES IS

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THERE ANYWAY TO RETRIEVE THOSE

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CONVERSATIONS?

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IS THAT WHY YOU HAVE A BURNER

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PHONE?

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>> IT'S WHY YOU HAVE A BURNER

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PHONE BUT "THE SUN TIMES" BROKE

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THIS TODAY WAS WHO IS ON THE

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OTHER END OF THE BURNER PHONE?

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AND DID THEY HAVE A BURNER

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PHONE?

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>> I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS

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THAT WE ARE LEARNING IN THE

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BURKE INVESTIGATION IS THAT IT

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IS UNFOLDING AND UNFOLDING AND

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UNFOLDING.

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AND SO I THINK WE HAVE SOME

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MILES TO GO BEFORE WE SLEEP ON

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WHAT THE FEDS ARE GOING TO FULLY

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CHARGE HIM WITH.

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>> AND THE INSPECTOR GENERAL IS

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IN THERE LOOKING OVER AND

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COMBING THROUGH THE FINANCE

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COMMITTEE.

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REMEMBER HE DOES NOT HAVE

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JURISDICTION TO DO AN AUDIT OF

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CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEES YET AND

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THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MAYOR

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LORI LIGHTFOOT CALLED FOR AND

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ALDERMEN NEED TO PASS THAT

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ORDINANCE IF THE IG HAS THE

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AUTHORITY TO PUT OUT A REPORT.

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>> BACK TO THE BURNER PHONE.

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IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE FEDS HAD

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WIRETAPPED SOMEBODY ELSE AND

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THAT THE CONVERSATION FROM

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BURKE'S BURNER PHONE MIGHT HAVE

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BEEN PICKED UP ON SOLIS' PHONE?

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>> THERE IS NO WAY OF KNOWING

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THAT BUT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY

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THAT ALDERMAN SOLIS AND ALDERMAN

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BURKE HAD CONVERSATIONS THAT MAY

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HAVE HAPPENED.

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WE DON'T KNOW HOWEVER HOW MANY

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BURNER PHONES BURKE WENT

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THROUGH.

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AND WHEN HE FIRST GOT A BURNER

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PHONE.

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>> THERE'S NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT

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HAVING A BURNER PHONE?

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>> NO, OF COURSE NOT, AGAIN IT

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SHOWS THAT PERHAPS --

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"THE SUN TIMES" REPORTING IT WAS

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A COUPLE MONTHS BEFORE THE

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FEDERAL RAID HAPPENED.

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>> RIGHT.

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IS IT THAT HE WAS TIPPED OFF?

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AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS

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CRAZY IS THE NOTION THE

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REPUTATION THAT BURKE HAD OF

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BEING SO VERY CAREFUL IS THIS A

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SIGN THAT HE WAS PERHAPS MORE

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CAREFUL THEN HE MESSED UP ON THE

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OTHER CONVERSATIONS?

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WE DON'T KNOW HOW DEEP THIS

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GETS.

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>> IF I WAS IN CHICAGO POLITICS

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I WOULD HAVE A BURNER PHONE.

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>> I THOUGHT YOU DID HAVE A

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BURNER PHONY WAY.

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>> WE WEREN'T GOING TO GO THERE

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TONIGHT.

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I MEAN THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE

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SAID.

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A FRIEND OF MINE JUST LEFT THE

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COUNTRY BOUGHT A BURNER PHONE

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AND LEFT HIS CELLPHONE AT HOME.

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SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE REASONS TO

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HAVE THEM.

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>> MORE AFFORDABLE SOMETIMES

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THAN THE CELL SERVICE.

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>> AND EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT UNDER

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F.B.I. INVESTIGATION.

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>> AND THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN

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FLOATING AROUND AND REMIND US

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WHAT MAYOR LIGHTFOOT CALLED FOR

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HIS WEEK?

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>> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE

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ISSUE OF LEAD IN CHICAGO'S WATER

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SUPPLY AND PARTICULARLY THE

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ISSUE OF ELEVATED RISK IT

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APPEARS FOR HOMES THAT HAVE

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CHOSEN TO BE OUTFITTED WITH

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WATER METERS.

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AND WHEN THOSE WATER METERS WERE

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INSTALLED WHICH IS UNCLEAR WHAT

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IS CAUSING THIS BUT MAYOR

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LIGHTFOOT SAID GIVEN NEW DATA

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SHE IS CONCERNED AND IS GOING TO

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PUT A HALT TO THAT PROGRAM

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INDEFINITELY.

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>> WHAT IS THE CONNECTION

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BETWEEN THE INSTALLATION OF A

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WATER METERS AND ELEVATED LEAD

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LEVELS?

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>> THERE'S STRONG EVIDENCE THAT

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WHEN THERE'S DISRUPTION IN WATER

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SERVICE FOR INSTANCE WHEN

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SOMEONE INSTALLS A METER YOU

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HAVE TO TURN OFF THE WATER THAT

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THERE IS AN ELEVATED LEVEL OF

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LEAD IN THE WATER WHEN THE WATER

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A CHEMICAL THAT CHEMICAL WHEN

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THE WATER FLOWS THROUGH THE PIPE

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IT COATS THE PIPE.

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SO WHEN THE WATER IS NOT FLOWING

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THE METER IS OFF, THAT COATING

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KIND OF FALLS AWAY AND WHEN THE

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WATER COMES BACK ON SOME OF THE

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PIECES OF LEAD CAN POSSIBLY FALL

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>> IS IT JUST A TEMPORARY

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SITUATION?

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>> IT IS A TEMPORARY SITUATION

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THAT WHAT THEY SAY IS TO RUN

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YOUR WATER FOR A LONGTIME TO

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FLUSH THAT.

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BUT THE CITY HAS KNOWN ABOUT IT

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FOR SEVERAL YEARS THAT THERE IS

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AN ELEVATED RISK OF LEAD IN

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STRANGELY THE EMANUEL

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ADMINISTRATION ACTED LIKE THEY

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WERE GETTING OUT IN FRONT OF

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THIS BUT THEY HAD KNOWN ABOUT IT

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FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

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>> CAROL, ALDERMAN CARRIE

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AUSTIN.

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SHE WAS IN THE NEWS THIS WEEK.

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WHY WAS SHE IN THE NEWS?

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>> SHE WAS IN THE NEWS BECAUSE

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IT TURNS OUT, SHE WAY OVERSPENT

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HER BUDGET FOR THE BUDGET

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COMMITTEE.

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AND SHE HAS BEEN DEPOTSED FROM

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THE BUDGET COMMITTEE BUT THE

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FACT OF THE MATTER IS SHE WENT

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OVER A $500,000 BUDGET BY

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ANOTHER $300,000.

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AND WHAT IS INTERESTING --

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>> WHERE DID THE MONEY COME

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FROM?

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>> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.

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>> LIKE A SHELL GAME.

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THERE'S DIFFERENT FUNDS AND IT

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>> WHAT IS THE LINK BETWEEN LEAD

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AND CARRIE AUSTIN?

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IT MIGHT BE THIS.

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THAT WHEN MAYOR LIGHTFOOT WAS

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ASKED ABOUT BOTH ONE OF THE

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THINGS SHE WAS ABLE TO SAY WAS

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YOU NEED TO ASK EMANUEL ABOUT

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THAT.

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THAT THERE IS A QUESTION OF WHAT

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HIS ADMINISTRATION DID VERSUS

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WHAT HERS IS DOING.

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SHE BEING AGGRESSIVE ON THE LEAD

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AND SHE BEING THE ONE WHO

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DEPOSED CARRIE AUSTIN.

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>> QUICKLY, A BEAT HOW MUCH

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TROUBLE TODD RICKETTS COULD BE

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IN FOR APPARENTLY UNDER

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ASSESSING HIS NORTH SHORE

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PROPERTY AND THUS PAYING LOWER

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TAXES.

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>> IF GOVERNOR J.B. PRITZKER IS

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UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR THE

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TOILETGATE THING AND UNDER

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PAYING HIS PROPERTY TAXES I DO

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NOT SEE HOW THIS IS DIFFERENT IF

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WHAT IS REPORTED IN THE TRIBUNE

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AND WHAT FRITZ KAEGI SAID IS

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TRUE HE WAS BASING HIS PROPERTY

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TAX PAYMENT ON THE OLD HOUSE

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THAT USED TO BE ON THE PROPERTY

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NOT THE BIG NEW HOUSE.

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RICKETTS SAY IT IS AN ERROR.

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BUT IF IT WAS --

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>> GOT TO FIGURE THAT PEOPLE ARE

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THIS WEALTHY HAD ADVISERS

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TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO AND

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WHATNOT TO DO.

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>> AND THEY CANNOT JUST BLAME