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PERFORMANCE.

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BUT FIRST, TONIGHT, MORE KEY

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WITNESSES TESTIFY IN THE

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IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY INTO

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PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP.

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AMONG THE FOUR WITNESSES TODAY

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WERE LIEUTENANT COLONEL-ELECT

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VINDMAN A UKRAINE SPECIALIST ON

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THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL

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AND JENNIFER WILLIAMS, ADVISER

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TO VICE-PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE.

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BOTH LISTENED ON THE CALL

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BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE

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PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE AND BOTH

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QUESTIONED THE APPROPRIATENESS

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OF THAT CALL AND A POLICY THAT

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SEEMED TO LINK MILITARY AID FOR

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UKRAINE TO THE LAUNCH OF

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INVESTIGATIONS INTO FORMER

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VICE-PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN AND HIS

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SON HUNTER.

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JOINING US TO GIVE US THEIR TAKE

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ON TODAY'S HEARINGS FROM FORMER

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COOK COUNTY REPUBLICAN PARTY

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GENERAL COUNSEL CHRISTINE

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SVENSON AND RENATO MARIOTTI A

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FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTORS AND

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ARTER IN ATOM SON COBURN.

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BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD FROM

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WITNESSES WHAT ARE THE KEY

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TAKEAWAYS FOR YOU?

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>> TODAY WAS A CONTINUATION OF

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THE GENERAL THEME OF THE

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DEMOCRATS THAT THE FACT THAT

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DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T SEEM TO

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FOLLOW THE POLICY OF THE STATE

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DEPARTMENT IN THE WAY HE

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CONDUCTS FOREIGN POLICY IS

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SOMEHOW WRONG.

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GUESS WHAT?

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HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE

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UNITED STATES.

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HE DETERMINES FOREIGN POLICY AND

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HOW IT'S CONDUCTED.

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BUT THAT WAS THE CRUX OF THEIR

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TESTIMONY THEY DON'T LIKE HOW HE

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DOES THINGS SO THEY ARE PICKING

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AWAY AND THAT'S WHAT THEIR

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TESTIMONY WAS ABOUT TODAY.

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>> RENATO MARIOTTI?

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TO YOU?

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>> I THINK AMBASSADOR VOLKER

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TESTIFIED IN HIS VIEW AND HE IS

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A TRUMP APPOINTEE AND A MEMBER

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OF THE ADMINISTRATION THAT THESE

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INVESTIGATIONS INTO JOE BIDEN

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AND HIS SON HAVE NOTHING TO DO

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WITH AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY

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THEY WERE FOR THE PERSONAL

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INTEREST OF THE AMERICAN

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PRESIDENT.

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THIS IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT USE

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OWRG TAX DOLLARS AND THIS

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MILITARY AID TO LEVERAGE THAT TO

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GET SOMETHING FOR HIMSELF.

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>> WHAT WAS YOUR IMPRESSION OF

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THE WITNESSES?

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DID YOU FIND THEM CREDIBLE?

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>> I THOUGHT VINDMAN AND MS. 

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WILLIAMS THEY WERE CAREER

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PROFESSIONALS AND NONPARTISAN.

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MS.  WILLIAMS WORKED IN THE

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GEORGE W. BUSH CAMPAIGN AND

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SERVED BOTH REPUBLICAN AND

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DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATIONS AND

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LIEUTENANT VINDMAN SHED BLOOD

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FOR HIS COUNTRY.

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I FOUND THEM TO BE PEOPLE TRYING

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TO PRESENT THE FACTS IN A

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NONPARTISAN WAY.

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THE OTHER TWO WITNESSES WERE

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CALLED BY THE REPUBLICANS AND

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DESPITE THE FACT THAT REPUBLICAN

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MEMBERS CALLED THEM I THOUGHT

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THEY GAVE TESTIMONY THAT CUT

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BOTH WAYS AS WELL.

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>> I WOULD SAY THE WITNESSES

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TRIED THEIR BESTING TO CREDIBLE.

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VOLKER HAD PROBLEMS ON THOSE

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LINES AND DID CHANGE HIS

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TESTIMONY FROM EARLIER TESTIMONY

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BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

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I DON'T THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO

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LIE.

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THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEIR VIEW

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IS SKEWED.

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THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THEIR

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IMPRESSIONS THINGS THAT THEY

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OVERHEARD AND THAT HAS NOTHING

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TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT DONALD

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TRUMP COMMITTED IMPEACHABLE

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OFFENSES.

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>> WE HAVE A BIT OF TESTIMONY

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THERE WERE FOUR WITNESSES.

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HERE IS A BIT OF TESTIMONY FROM

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THREE OF TODAY'S FOUR WITNESSES.

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>> YOU TESTIFIED THAT YOU

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THOUGHT IT WAS POLITICAL IN

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NATURE.

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WHY DID YOU THINK THAT?

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>> I THOUGHT THAT THE REFERENCES

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TO SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND

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INVESTIGATIONS SUCH AS FORMER

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VICE-PRESIDENT BIDEN AND HIS SON

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STRUCK ME AS POLITICAL IN NATURE

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GIVEN THAT THE FORMER

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VICE-PRESIDENT IS A POLITICAL

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OPPONENT OF THE PRESIDENT.

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>> IS IMPROPER FOR THE PRESIDENT

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OF THE UNITED STATES TO DEMAND A

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FOREIGN GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATE A

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U.S. CITIZEN AND A POLITICAL

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OPPONENT?

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I WANT TO EMPHASIZE TO THE

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COMMITTEE WHEN I REPORTED MY

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CONCERNS ON JULY 10TH RELATED TO

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AMBASSADOR SONDLAND AND RELATING

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TO THE PRESIDENT I DID SO OUT OF

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THE SENSE OF DUTY BECAUSE THEY

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HAD NATIONAL IMPLICATIONS OF

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SECURITY CONCERNS FOR OUR

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COUNTRY.

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I FIGURED HOW IT WOULD PLAY IN

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WASHINGTON'S POLITICAL CLIMATE

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AND MY FEARS HAVE BEEN REALIZED.

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I UNDERSTAND THE GRAVITY OF

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THESE PROCEEDINGS BUT I BEG YOU

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NOT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THE

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MILITARY CONFLICT IN EASTERN

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UKRAINE, THE ILLEGAL OCCUPATION

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OF CRIMEA AND THE REFORM OF

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UKRAINE'S POLITICS AND ECONOMY.

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>> IN WILLIAMS AND VINDMAN YOU

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HAVE AN ADVISER TO MIKE PENCE

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AND DECORATED COMBAT VETERAN.

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DO YOU THINK THE REPUBLICANS,

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CHRISTINE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN

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BEING ABLE TO UNDERMINE THE

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CREDIBILITY OF THE WITNESSES?

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>> NOT NECESSARILY.

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I KNOW THEY TRIED TO IMPEACH

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THEM A BIT I DON'T THINK THAT

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WAS INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL.

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YOU SHOWED AN EXAMPLE OF MS. 

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WILLIAMS SHE SAID I DON'T THINK

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IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO FRAME THIS

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IN POLITICAL TERMS.

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THAT WAS HER IMPRESSION IT

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DOESN'T MEAN IT WAS.

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>> THE WITNESSES WERE TESTIFYING

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ABOUT WHAT THEY SAW AND HEARD

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AND LAID BEAR IN A TRANSCRIPT

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RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC IN A

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TRANSCRIPT AND THE TESTIMONY OF

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MANY I WITNESSES WE WILL HEAR

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FROM AMBASSADOR SONDLAND WHO

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WILL TESTIFY ABOUT WHAT THE

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PRESIDENT TOLD HIM OVER THE

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PHONE.

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I DON'T THINK THERE IS QUESTION

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HERE THAT THE MILITARY AID WAS

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CONDITIONED NOT AN INVESTIGATION

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ON AN INVESTIGATION OF

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VICE-PRESIDENT BIDEN AND HIS

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SON.

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YOU CAN HAVE ARGUMENTS WHETHER

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IT IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE I

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THINK IT IS CLEAR THAT IT IS.

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BUT FOR ME THIS POINT THERE CAN

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BE NO DISPUTE OVER THE FACTS.

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>> KURT VOLKER CHANGED HIS

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TESTIMONY TO SAY THE ADDITIONAL

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INFORMATION COMES TO LIGHT AND

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SEES FOR CALLS FOR AN

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INFORMATION INTO BURISMA WAS

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LINKED TO JOE AND HUNTDER BIDEN

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AND TESTIFIED HE WAS NOT AWARE

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OF THAT CONNECTION.

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IS THIS SIGNIFICANT?

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>> NO IT'S INSIGNIFICANT.

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AT THE END OF THE DAY, PRESIDENT

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TRUMP HAS EVERY RIGHT TO ASK THE

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UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT TO ROOT OUT

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CORRUPTION AND GETTING BACK TO

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Mr. RENATO MARIOTTI'S POINT,

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NO IT'S NOT CLEAR THAT THIS WAS

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DONE FOR NEFIOUS PURPOSES.

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IN FACT HOW ABOUT THE FACT THAT

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THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT

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INCLUDING ZELENSKY AND

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SONDLAND'S COUNTER PART THEY

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SAID FIVE TIMES THEY DID NOT

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FEEL PRESSURE AND THERE WAS NO

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QUID PRO QUO.

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HOW CAN WE HAVE A CRIME OR A

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VICTIM WHEN THE VICTIMS ALLEGED

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VICTIMS ARE SAYING THERE'S NO

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CRIME?

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>> CHANGE OF TESTIMONY

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SIGNIFICANT?

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>> FIRST OF ALL, THE CHANGE OF

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TESTIMONY IS THE FACT THAT Mr.

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VOLKER WAS TRYING TO DEFEND THE

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TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AS MUCH AS

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POSSIBLE AND WHEN OTHER

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WITNESSES CAME AND ESTABLISHED A

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RECORD THAT CONTRADICTED WHAT HE

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HAD TO SAY HE HAS BEEN

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CONTRADICTED BY MANY OTHER

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WITNESSES, HE HAD TO CHANGE HIS

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TESTIMONY BECAUSE IT WAS GOING

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TO BE NOT CREDIBLE.

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AND THE SAME THING HAPPENED WITH

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AMBASSADOR SONDLAND WHO HAD TO

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AMEND HIS TESTIMONY UNDER OATH.

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THESE ARE TRUMP APPOINTEES

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TRYING TO DEFEND THE

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ADMINISTRATION AND THEY THEIR

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STORY DID NOT FIT THE FACTS SO

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THEY HAD TO CHANGE THEIR

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TESTIMONY TO FIT THE FACTS.

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I WILL SAY, THIS WAS NOT ABOUT

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ROOTING OUT CORRUPTION.

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THERE WAS A STATEMENT SHE MADE

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ABOUT ROOTING OUT CORRUPTION

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THIS IS NOT ABOUT ROOTING OUT

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CORRUPTION.

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WHAT WAS ASKED FOR NOT AN

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INVESTIGATION IT WAS AN

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ANNOUNCEMENT OF AN INVESTIGATION

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ON A TV NETWORK IN ORDER TO HURT

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THE REPUTATION OF VICE-PRESIDENT

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BIDEN.

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AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS WAS

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NOT ABOUT INVESTIGATING

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CORRUPTION MORE GENERALLY IT WAS

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ABOUT JOE BIDEN AND HIS SON

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SPECIFICALLY.

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AND IF THE PRESIDENT WAS

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CONCERNED ABOUT ROOTING OUT

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CORRUPTION HE COULD HAVE GONE TO

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THE F.B.I. WHICH IS WHERE

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AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE TYPICALLY

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INVESTIGATED.

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>> DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND?

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>> THE TRANSCRIPT SPEAKS FOR

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ITSELF AND DONALD TRUMP SPOKE IN

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BROAD TERMS ABOUT CORRUPTION

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THAT EXITED IN UKRAINE AND

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BURISMA IN PARTICULAR.

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>> THIS MORNING DURING

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LIEUTENANT COLONEL VINDMAN'S

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TESTIMONY, THE OFFICIAL WHITE

07:57.133 --> 08:04.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75%
HOUSE TWITTER ACCOUNT TWEETED,

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TIM MORRISON, TESTIFIED IN HIS

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DEPOSITION THAT HE HAD CONCERNS

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ABOUT VINDMAN'S JUDGMENT AND

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INCLUDED A QUOTE FROM MORRISON.

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WAS THIS SURPRISING COMING FROM

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THE OFFICIAL WHITE HOUSE ACCOUNT

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AND APPROPRIATE?

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DOES IT NOT SEEM LIKE A THING

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THAT WOULD COME FROM THE

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PRESIDENT'S OWN ACCOUNT?

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>> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SURPRISING

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A FEW YEARS AGO.

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IF YOU TOLD ME A FEW YEARS AGO

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THAT THE WHITE HOUSE WHICH IS

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OFFICIAL ARM OF THE UNITED

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STATES GOVERNMENT PAID FOR BY

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OUR TAX DOLLARS WAS ATTACKING A

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COMBAT VETERAN SERVING IN THAT

08:33.766 --> 08:39.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5%
ADMINISTRATION, ATTACKING HIS

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CREDIBILITY THERE DOESN'T APPEAR

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TO BE REASON TO DO SO I WOULD BE

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CONCERNED IT WAS A POLITICAL

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ARGUMENT BEING MADE USING AN

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OFFICIAL WHITE HOUSE ORGAN.

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BUT UNDER THE TRUMP

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ADMINISTRATION THAT HAS BECOME

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COMMONPLACE.

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>> WERE YOU SURPRISED BY THE

08:51.300 --> 08:56.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15%
TWEET?

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>> I WAS NOT AWARE BUT I'M NOT

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PARTICULARLY SURPRISED.

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>> JENNIFER WILLIAMS TESTIFIED

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THERE WAS NO NATIONAL SECURITY

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PURPOSE BEHIND WITHHOLDING

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MILITARY AID TO UKRAINE AND THEY

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SAID IT WAS PART OF A QUID PRO

09:07.333 --> 09:09.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:10%
QUO.

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HAD DEMOCRATS ENOUGH TO MAKE

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THAT CASE?

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>> I THINK AT THIS POINT IF YOU

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DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A QUID

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PRO QUO HERE IT'S --

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YOU ARE AT A POINT WHERE YOU ARE

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DENYING WHAT THE EVIDENCE OF

09:17.266 --> 09:22.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5%
YOUR EYES AND EARS.

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THERE ARE ENOUGH HUMAN BEINGS

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THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THE TRUMP

09:22.800 --> 09:29.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5%
ADMINISTRATION APPOINTEES AND

09:23.866 --> 09:31.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65%
ALSO PEOPLE WHO ARE CAREER

09:27.300 --> 09:32.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5%
FOREIGN SERVICE OFFICERS,

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DIPLOMATS, HERE WE HAVE A COMBAT

09:31.033 --> 09:35.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5%
VETERAN WHO ARE TESTIFYING THAT

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THIS WAS IN FACT THE CASE.

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AND YOU KNOW THAT TRANSCRIPT

09:35.800 --> 09:39.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35%
SUPPORT IT IS.

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THE TRANSCRIPT DOESN'T TALK

09:38.033 --> 09:42.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5%
ABOUT CORRUPTION.

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THE WORD CORRUPTION THE WORD

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BIDENS IS.

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AND SO I THINK THIS IS ABOUT A

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LINKAGE OF FOREIGN AID TO AN

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INVESTIGATION OF A POLITICAL

09:50.966 --> 09:54.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5%
OPPONENT.

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>> CHRISTINE SVENSON WHAT WOULD

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YOU SAY IS THE REPUBLICAN'S

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STRATEGY IN THE HEARINGS?

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>> WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT THEY

09:58.300 --> 10:03.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80%
NEED TO GET ACROSS THE FACT THAT

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THERE WAS NO QUID PRO QUO.

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GO BACK TO THE TRANSCRIPTS THIS

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IS POLITICAL THEATER.

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POLITICAL DRAMA.

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IT IS A SIDE SHOW DESIGNED TO

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GET PEOPLE TO THINK THERE'S

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SOMETHING TO THIS WHEN THERE

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ISN'T.

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>> AMBASSADOR VOLKER TESTIFIED

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HE DID NOT THINK THAT

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ALLEGATIONS BETWEENS JOE BIDEN

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AND MARIE YANUKOVYCH SPREAD BY

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TRUMP'S PERSONAL LAWYER RUDY

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GIULIANI WERE CREDIBLE.

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HOW SIGNIFICANT IS THAT?

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THAT AMBASSADOR VOLKER TESTIFIED

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TO THAT TODAY?

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>> I DON'T THINK IT'S

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PARTICULARLY SIGNIFICANT.

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>> WELL, THERE'S NO CREDIBILITY

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TO THOSE ALLEGATIONS AND THAT IS

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WHY THEY NEEDED TO BRIBE A

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FOREIGN GOVERNMENT OR PUSH A

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FOREIGN GOVERNMENT WHATEVER YOU

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WANT TO CALL IT HOLD OVER THE

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FOREIGN AID TO GET THEM TO SAY

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THAT OR CREATE CLOUT AROUND IT.

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BECAUSE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO

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SUPPORT THAT.

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>> CHRISTINE SVENSON IS EVER

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APPROPRIATE FOR A U.S. PRESIDENT

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TO ASK A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO

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INVESTIGATE A DOMESTIC POLITICAL

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RIVAL?

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>> I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S

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APPROPRIATE.

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WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS

11:04.233 --> 11:08.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5%
IMPEACHABLE THAT IS ANOTHER

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QUESTION AND I'M NOT CONCEDING

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THAT TRUMP DID THAT.

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BUT THAT IS A SEPARATE QUESTION.

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>> HE DID THAT ON NATIONAL

11:11.700 --> 11:17.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75%
TELEVISION HE CALLED FOR CHINA

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ALSO TO INVESTIGATE JOE BIDEN.

11:16.200 --> 11:21.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75%
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK

11:17.700 --> 11:23.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80%
IS UNDENIABLE THAT THE PRESIDENT

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DID AND WHEN YOU ASKED ABOUT

11:21.766 --> 11:26.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5%
REPUBLICAN STRATEGY IT'S TO

11:23.366 --> 11:28.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5%
CONFUSE THE ISSUES AND DISTRACT

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FROM WHAT HAPPENED AND I

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UNDERSTAND THAT IS A DEFENSE

11:28.166 --> 11:34.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5%
STRATEGY WHEN THE FACTS ARE NOT

11:29.566 --> 11:36.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75%
ON YOUR SIDE BUT THEY WOULD BE

11:31.666 --> 11:37.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5%
BETTER OFF ADMITTING THAT

11:34.133 --> 11:38.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70%
HAPPENED AND WHAT THE PROPER

11:36.100 --> 11:40.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60%
PUNISHMENT OR THE PROPER

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RESPONSE TO THAT SHOULD BE.

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>> IF I MAY, SO I WOULD LIKE TO

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POINT OUT, THE AID WAS NEVER

11:44.333 --> 11:48.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5%
WITHHELD.

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ZELENSKY SAID THE AID WAS NOT

11:48.166 --> 11:53.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5%
WITHHELD.

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HOW CAN THERE BE A QUID PRO QUO?

11:50.466 --> 11:55.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5%
>> FIRST OF ALL, THE LATTER PAT

11:53.133 --> 11:57.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5%
IS FALSE.

11:54.000 --> 11:58.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80%
IT WAS TESTIFIED UNDER OATH THAT

11:55.733 --> 12:01.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65%
IT WAS COMMUNICATED TO THE

11:57.800 --> 12:02.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75%
UKRAINIANS AND THEY WERE READY

11:58.633 --> 12:04.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5%
TO GO ON TELEVISION TO COMPLETE

12:01.166 --> 12:07.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5%
THE QUID PRO QUO.

12:02.266 --> 12:09.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80%
THE AID WAS WITHHELD UNTIL THERE

12:04.466 --> 12:09.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5%
WAS A WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT

12:07.033 --> 12:11.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70%
THAT WAS COMMUNICATED TO THE

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HOUSE.

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IT WAS A FEW DAYS AFTER THAT

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WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT WAS

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COMMUNICATED TO THE HOUSE THAT

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THE AID WAS NOT WITHHELD.

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LIKE WHEN I USED TO PROSECUTE

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PEOPLE TO GO TO A BANK WITH SKI

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MASKS AND A GUN THERE WERE MEN

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CAUGHT AT THE DOOR OF THE BANK

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AND THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO GET IT

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THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY ARE

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NOT GUILTY OF A CRIME.

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>> TOMORROW GORDON SONDLAND IS

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SCHEDULED TO TESTIFY WHAT DO YOU

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EXPECT TO HEAR FROM HIM?

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>> THAT WILL BE INTERESTING

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BECAUSE HE SENT OUT A TEXT

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SAYING THAT THERE'S NO QUID PRO

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QUO.

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AND I UNDERSTAND HE MAY HAVE

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CHANGED SOME OF HIS TESTIMONY IN

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THE CLOSED DOOR SESSIONS.

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SO TOMORROW WILL BE INTERESTING.

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HE IS THE ONE WHO IS PROBABLY

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CLOSEST TO TRUMP, I EXPECT IT TO

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BE PROBABLY A PROBATIVE DAY.

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>> MOST IMPORTANT WITNESS IN

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MANY WAYS HE IS SOMEBODY WHO

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STILL WANTS TO BE IN THE TRUMP

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ORBIT BUT YET HAS GIVEN DAMNING