1 00:00:03,533 --> 00:00:12,333 ANTICIPATED DEBATE. 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:13,266 >> BRANDIS, A PANDEMIC, A RACIAL 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:15,133 JUSTICE MOVEMENT AND A RUSH TO 4 00:00:12,333 --> 00:00:15,900 CONFIRM A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE. 5 00:00:13,266 --> 00:00:17,366 WITH THE ISSUES FRONT AND 6 00:00:15,133 --> 00:00:19,133 CENTER, DONALD TRUMP AND JOE 7 00:00:15,900 --> 00:00:20,466 BIDEN FACE OFF IN THE FIRST OF 8 00:00:17,366 --> 00:00:22,066 THREE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES. 9 00:00:19,133 --> 00:00:25,366 JOINING US TO SHARE WHAT THEY 10 00:00:20,466 --> 00:00:29,433 WILL BE WATCHING FOR TONIGHT ARE 11 00:00:22,066 --> 00:00:31,033 ED LEE, HE'S SENIOR DIRECTOR OF 12 00:00:25,366 --> 00:00:33,166 THE ALVIN W. BARCLAY FORUM AT 13 00:00:29,433 --> 00:00:36,166 EMORY UNIVERSITY ATLANTA. 14 00:00:31,033 --> 00:00:38,400 AND MARI MASENG WILL, PRINCIPLE 15 00:00:33,166 --> 00:00:39,966 AT MASENG COMMUNICATIONS, SHE IS 16 00:00:36,166 --> 00:00:40,900 PREPARED REPUBLICAN, SENATE AND 17 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:43,033 CONGRESSIONAL AND GUBERNATORIAL 18 00:00:39,966 --> 00:00:43,366 CANDIDATES FOR DEBATES AND 19 00:00:40,900 --> 00:00:45,400 WORKED WITH PRESIDENT RONALD 20 00:00:43,033 --> 00:00:49,100 REAGAN. 21 00:00:43,366 --> 00:00:50,033 THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US. 22 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:52,466 ED LEE WHAT DO YOU THINK JOE 23 00:00:49,100 --> 00:00:54,866 BIDEN'S STRATEGY WILL BE TONIGHT 24 00:00:50,033 --> 00:00:56,666 WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? 25 00:00:52,466 --> 00:00:56,966 >> I THINK THAT JOE BIDEN IS 26 00:00:54,866 --> 00:00:59,566 SETUP TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD 27 00:00:56,666 --> 00:01:01,300 NIGHT. 28 00:00:56,966 --> 00:01:03,233 ONE OF THE THINGS I'M LOOKING 29 00:00:59,566 --> 00:01:04,733 FOR IS TO SHOW UP WITH ENERGY 30 00:01:01,300 --> 00:01:06,333 THAT SOMEONE WHO IS EXCITED 31 00:01:03,233 --> 00:01:08,400 ABOUT BEING THERE. 32 00:01:04,733 --> 00:01:11,333 COUNTERS THE NARRATIVE THAT HE 33 00:01:06,333 --> 00:01:13,466 IS SLEEPY AND CAN'T STAY AWAKE. 34 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:15,700 AND THAT THE ABILITY TO JUST 35 00:01:11,333 --> 00:01:16,866 ENJOY THE MOMENT. 36 00:01:13,466 --> 00:01:18,933 AND EXUDE A PRESENCE THAT HE IS 37 00:01:15,700 --> 00:01:21,100 QUITE PRESIDENTIAL AND READY FOR 38 00:01:16,866 --> 00:01:21,500 THE MOMENT AND EXCITED TO BE ON 39 00:01:18,933 --> 00:01:23,300 STAGE WITH OUR CURRENT 40 00:01:21,100 --> 00:01:25,533 PRESIDENT. 41 00:01:21,500 --> 00:01:26,400 >> AND MARI MASENG WILL, WHAT DO 42 00:01:23,300 --> 00:01:28,966 YOU EXPECT THE PRESIDENT'S 43 00:01:25,533 --> 00:01:31,700 STRATEGY TO BE? 44 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:35,500 >> I EXPECT HIM TO BE ON THE 45 00:01:28,966 --> 00:01:36,166 OFFENSIVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 46 00:01:31,700 --> 00:01:39,733 AND I EXPECT HIM TO ALSO ENJOY 47 00:01:35,500 --> 00:01:43,166 THE EXPERIENCE. 48 00:01:36,166 --> 00:01:45,266 HE IS A TV GUY OR THINKS OF 49 00:01:39,733 --> 00:01:47,833 HIMSELF AS A TV GUY. 50 00:01:43,166 --> 00:01:49,800 WHEN I COACH PEOPLE I TELL THEM 51 00:01:45,266 --> 00:01:51,366 IT IS A GAME IT'S GOING TO BE 52 00:01:47,833 --> 00:01:52,933 FUN AND THEN WHEN THEY GET ON 53 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:55,933 STAGE AND THEY ARE PREPARED THEY 54 00:01:51,366 --> 00:01:56,933 DO HAVE A GOOD TIME. 55 00:01:52,933 --> 00:01:58,966 AND THE AUDIENCE WHICH IS THE 56 00:01:55,933 --> 00:01:59,900 AUDIENCE WATCHING ON TELEVISION 57 00:01:56,933 --> 00:02:02,033 NOT IN THE HALL, THE AUDIENCE 58 00:01:58,966 --> 00:02:04,766 WILL PICK UP ON THAT. 59 00:01:59,900 --> 00:02:06,666 YOU WILL SEE IT IN BODY LANGUAGE 60 00:02:02,033 --> 00:02:06,966 AND TONE AND FACIAL EXPRESSIONS. 61 00:02:04,766 --> 00:02:09,866 AND I EXPECT HE IS GOING TO DO 62 00:02:06,666 --> 00:02:11,500 THAT. 63 00:02:06,966 --> 00:02:13,766 I THINK BOTH OF THESE DEBATERS 64 00:02:09,866 --> 00:02:14,933 ARE VERY GOOD AT THAT AND VERY 65 00:02:11,500 --> 00:02:17,800 GOOD AT BEING ON THE OFFENSIVE. 66 00:02:13,766 --> 00:02:19,833 >> ED LEE MOST PEOPLE DON'T 67 00:02:14,933 --> 00:02:20,133 THINK OF FUN WHEN THEY THINK OF 68 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,666 A DEBATE CERTAINLY AT THIS 69 00:02:19,833 --> 00:02:24,400 LEVEL. 70 00:02:20,133 --> 00:02:25,700 WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL PITFALLS 71 00:02:21,666 --> 00:02:26,733 FOR THE TWO INDICATES? 72 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,533 >> ONE OF THE -- 73 00:02:25,700 --> 00:02:29,966 CANDIDATES. 74 00:02:26,733 --> 00:02:31,866 >> ONE OF THE PITFALLS FOR 75 00:02:28,533 --> 00:02:33,100 PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS THAT HE GETS 76 00:02:29,966 --> 00:02:35,666 A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ENERGY 77 00:02:31,866 --> 00:02:37,233 OUT OF THE CROWD. 78 00:02:33,100 --> 00:02:39,433 THAT HE IS A TV GUY AN 79 00:02:35,666 --> 00:02:42,666 ENTERTAINER AND THE ABILITY FOR 80 00:02:37,233 --> 00:02:44,333 HIM TO SHOW UP IN A SPARSE 81 00:02:39,433 --> 00:02:46,266 AUDIENCE AND MAINTAIN A LEVEL OF 82 00:02:42,666 --> 00:02:48,200 ENERGY AND BEING ABLE TO PRETEND 83 00:02:44,333 --> 00:02:51,700 AS IF THERE IS A CROWD AND THAT 84 00:02:46,266 --> 00:02:53,366 HE IS NOT BORED THAT HE DOESN'T 85 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:54,500 LOOK LIKE HE IS LETHARGIC OR 86 00:02:51,700 --> 00:02:56,466 STRESSED I THINK THAT IS A 87 00:02:53,366 --> 00:02:57,800 SIGNIFICANT DOWNSIDE RISK THAT 88 00:02:54,500 --> 00:02:59,733 PRESIDENT TRUMP IS A BRILLIANT 89 00:02:56,466 --> 00:03:00,900 AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE 90 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,733 AUDIENCE NEEDS AT THAT 91 00:02:59,733 --> 00:03:03,733 PARTICULAR MOMENT AND ADJUSTING 92 00:03:00,900 --> 00:03:06,533 TO THAT. 93 00:03:01,733 --> 00:03:07,900 THE LACK OF A CROWD IS SOMETHING 94 00:03:03,733 --> 00:03:10,200 THAT I HOPE THAT HIS CAMPAIGN 95 00:03:06,533 --> 00:03:12,266 ADVISERS ARE PREPPING HIM TO 96 00:03:07,900 --> 00:03:14,133 DEAL WITH AND NOT HAVING THAT 97 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:15,866 CALL AND RESPONSE RELATIONSHIP 98 00:03:12,266 --> 00:03:21,333 THAT HE IS USED TO HAVING WITH 99 00:03:14,133 --> 00:03:22,233 THE AUDIENCES THAT SHOW UP FOR 100 00:03:15,866 --> 00:03:24,600 HIS RALLIES AND OTHER EVENTS. 101 00:03:21,333 --> 00:03:27,600 THE -- 102 00:03:22,233 --> 00:03:32,100 >> I WAS GOING TO CLARIFY UNDER 103 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:34,566 THE DEBATE RULES ONLY 75 PEOPLE 104 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:37,066 WILL BE IN PHYSICAL PRESENCE. 105 00:03:32,100 --> 00:03:38,600 MARI MASENG WILL WHAT DO YOU 106 00:03:34,566 --> 00:03:40,300 THINK THE DOWNSIDES OR THE 107 00:03:37,066 --> 00:03:41,933 PITFALLS MIGHT BE BE FOR EITHER 108 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:44,833 OF THE CANDIDATES AND I WILL GET 109 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:46,900 BACK TO YOU, ED. 110 00:03:41,933 --> 00:03:48,466 >> WELL, I THINK THAT THE 111 00:03:44,833 --> 00:03:49,833 BIGGEST HANDICAP FOR THE FORMER 112 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:50,833 VICE-PRESIDENT HE HAS NOT BEEN 113 00:03:48,466 --> 00:03:53,000 CAMPAIGNING THE WAY TRUMP HAS 114 00:03:49,833 --> 00:03:57,133 BEEN CAMPAIGNING. 115 00:03:50,833 --> 00:03:58,566 AND EVERYONE I'VE EVER WORKED 116 00:03:53,000 --> 00:04:00,933 FOR HAS GOTTEN BETTER AT 117 00:03:57,133 --> 00:04:02,300 CAMPAIGNING AND THEREFORE BETTER 118 00:03:58,566 --> 00:04:04,333 AT THE DEBATES THE FARTHER ALONG 119 00:04:00,933 --> 00:04:05,900 THEY GET INTO IT. 120 00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:07,600 YOU GET ON A ROLL YOU HAVE 121 00:04:04,333 --> 00:04:09,066 THINGS THAT YOU ARE USED TO 122 00:04:05,900 --> 00:04:10,533 SAYING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 123 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:14,466 THE MUSCLE MEMORY IN YOUR MOUTH. 124 00:04:09,066 --> 00:04:15,700 AND HE HAS NOT DONE THAT. 125 00:04:10,533 --> 00:04:17,766 I KNOW HE HAS BEEN PREPPING IN A 126 00:04:14,466 --> 00:04:20,300 PROFESSIONAL MANNER AND THAT 127 00:04:15,700 --> 00:04:22,033 WHEN HE TAKES DEBATES SERIOUSLY 128 00:04:17,766 --> 00:04:24,166 FOR EXAMPLE, HE SCHOOLED ME ON 129 00:04:20,300 --> 00:04:25,933 DEBATES WITH HIS DEBATE WITH 130 00:04:22,033 --> 00:04:26,933 PAUL RYAN. 131 00:04:24,166 --> 00:04:29,333 HIT IT OUT OF THE PARK. 132 00:04:25,933 --> 00:04:30,233 HE WAS TERRIFIC. 133 00:04:26,933 --> 00:04:32,366 AND HE MAINTAINED CONTROL ALMOST 134 00:04:29,333 --> 00:04:32,666 THE ENTIRE TIME. 135 00:04:30,233 --> 00:04:35,366 BUT THAT WAS NOT IN A PANDEMIC 136 00:04:32,366 --> 00:04:35,366 YEAR. 137 00:04:32,666 --> 00:04:35,366 THAT WAS JOHN NOTHDURFT IN THIS 138 00:04:36,900 --> 00:04:46,133 THAT WAS NOT IN A PANDEMIC YEAR. 139 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,433 >> TO WHOM WHEN YOU WERE 140 00:04:44,566 --> 00:04:49,900 REFERRING THAT HE SCHOOLED YOU? 141 00:04:46,133 --> 00:04:51,733 >> JOE BIDEN. 142 00:04:47,433 --> 00:04:55,366 >> HE WAS INCREDIBLY -- 143 00:04:49,900 --> 00:04:57,400 I DON'T KNOW IN ED AGREES BUT 144 00:04:51,733 --> 00:04:58,133 THAT DEBATE WAS A WORK OF ART. 145 00:04:55,366 --> 00:05:03,833 >> ED LEE YOU WERE ABOUT TO MAKE 146 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:05,200 MORE POINT? 147 00:04:58,133 --> 00:05:06,533 >> I AGREE WITH MARCHI AND THE 148 00:05:03,833 --> 00:05:09,100 PAUL RYAN AND THE JOE BIDEN 149 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:11,300 DEBATES ONE OF THE THINGS HE DID 150 00:05:06,533 --> 00:05:12,800 WELL HE WAS IN THE MOMENT. 151 00:05:09,100 --> 00:05:15,100 IT FELT LIKE HE WAS PART OF A 152 00:05:11,300 --> 00:05:16,200 CONVERSATION WITH PAUL RYAN AND 153 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:18,533 ONE OF THE FEARS THAT I HAVE 154 00:05:15,100 --> 00:05:20,500 ABOUT JOE BIDEN AT THIS MOMENT 155 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:23,433 IS THAT HE IS SPENT A 156 00:05:18,533 --> 00:05:26,433 SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME 157 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:29,366 PREPARING FOR THE DEBATE INSTEAD 158 00:05:23,433 --> 00:05:30,466 OF PREPARING TO HAVE A 159 00:05:26,433 --> 00:05:31,666 SPONTANEOUS AND I IMPROMPTU 160 00:05:29,366 --> 00:05:32,966 CONVERSATION WITH CHRIS WALLACE 161 00:05:30,466 --> 00:05:35,000 AND THE AUDIENCE. 162 00:05:31,666 --> 00:05:37,466 I WOULD FEAR IF I WAS THE 163 00:05:32,966 --> 00:05:38,800 CAMPAIGN THAT HE IS TOO 164 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:41,466 PROGRAMMED AT THE MOMENT. 165 00:05:37,466 --> 00:05:42,766 BECAUSE WHAT MARI MASENG WILL 166 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:44,766 IDENTIFIED IS THE VALUE OF 167 00:05:41,466 --> 00:05:45,866 DEVELOPING THAT MUSCLE MEMORY. 168 00:05:42,766 --> 00:05:47,233 AND I SHARE HER CONCERNS OF 169 00:05:44,766 --> 00:05:49,233 WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS SOMETHING 170 00:05:45,866 --> 00:05:50,900 THAT JOE BIDEN HAS BEEN ABLE TO 171 00:05:47,233 --> 00:05:51,233 DEVELOP WITH THE LACK OF 172 00:05:49,233 --> 00:05:52,400 CAMPAIGNING IN THE TRADITIONAL 173 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:54,966 SENSE. 174 00:05:51,233 --> 00:05:56,833 >> WELL, THE CONVERSATION WILL 175 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:58,666 FOCUS ON SIX TOPICS, TRUMP AND 176 00:05:54,966 --> 00:06:00,333 BIDEN'S RECORDS THE SUPREME 177 00:05:56,833 --> 00:06:03,566 COURT, COVID-19, THE ECONOMY, 178 00:05:58,666 --> 00:06:03,933 RACE AND VIOLENCE IN THE U.S. 179 00:06:00,333 --> 00:06:05,366 CITIES AND THE INTEGRITY OF THE 180 00:06:03,566 --> 00:06:06,800 ELECTION. 181 00:06:03,933 --> 00:06:07,133 MARI MASENG WILL IS THIS AGENDA 182 00:06:05,366 --> 00:06:10,166 FAVOR ONE CANDIDATE OVER THE 183 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,933 OTHER? 184 00:06:07,133 --> 00:06:14,066 >> I WAS LOOKING AT IT TODAY AND 185 00:06:10,166 --> 00:06:16,233 THINK TO GO MIGHT FAVOR TRUMP 186 00:06:11,933 --> 00:06:17,733 BECAUSE IF HE CAN POINT TO HIS 187 00:06:14,066 --> 00:06:19,966 ECONOMIC RECORD WHICH WAS 188 00:06:16,233 --> 00:06:22,233 INCREDIBILITY ONE OF THE BEST 189 00:06:17,733 --> 00:06:24,833 ECONOMIES WE'VE EVER HAD UNTIL 190 00:06:19,966 --> 00:06:27,566 THE PANDEMIC. 191 00:06:22,233 --> 00:06:29,133 AND TRY TO TURN THAT INTO HOPE 192 00:06:24,833 --> 00:06:31,633 FOR AMERICA IN THE FUTURE. 193 00:06:27,566 --> 00:06:33,200 VOTERS DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT 194 00:06:29,133 --> 00:06:34,300 WHAT HE DID FOR THEM YESTERDAY 195 00:06:31,633 --> 00:06:37,233 THEY CARE WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO 196 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:39,466 DO FOR ME TOMORROW. 197 00:06:34,300 --> 00:06:41,466 IF HE CAN LEVERAGE THAT AND BEST 198 00:06:37,233 --> 00:06:44,633 ABLE TO BRING US BACK INTO A 199 00:06:39,466 --> 00:06:48,066 VIBRANT ECONOMY ON THE ONE HAND 200 00:06:41,466 --> 00:06:50,866 AND NOT KNOCK THE LEGS OUT FROM 201 00:06:44,633 --> 00:06:52,866 UNDER BIDEN BY PINNING HIM AS 202 00:06:48,066 --> 00:06:54,433 SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO STRANGLE 203 00:06:50,866 --> 00:06:58,966 YOU WITH REGULATIONS AND TAXES 204 00:06:52,866 --> 00:07:01,566 AND ECONOMIC PROGRAMS THAT LED 205 00:06:54,433 --> 00:07:03,400 TO ONE OF THE -- 206 00:06:58,966 --> 00:07:05,133 SOME OF THE DIFFICULTIES WE HAD 207 00:07:01,566 --> 00:07:07,133 OVER THE OBAMA YEARS, I THINK 208 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:08,800 THAT WILL BE A BIG VICTORY. 209 00:07:05,133 --> 00:07:10,000 THAT IS WHAT REPUBLICAN VOTERS 210 00:07:07,133 --> 00:07:13,200 ARE LOOKING FOR BUT MOST 211 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:15,166 IMPORTANTLY THAT IS WHAT THE 212 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:17,100 SWING VOTERS WHO MIGHT SUPPORT A 213 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:19,166 REPUBLICAN IN THIS -- 214 00:07:15,166 --> 00:07:20,300 THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. 215 00:07:17,100 --> 00:07:21,966 I THINK BIDEN IS GOING TO FOCUS 216 00:07:19,166 --> 00:07:23,766 ON THE CORONAVIRUS HE THINKS 217 00:07:20,300 --> 00:07:25,466 THAT IS A BIG PLUS. 218 00:07:21,966 --> 00:07:28,566 BUT FROM THE POLLS I LOOK AT 219 00:07:23,766 --> 00:07:29,900 MOST AMERICANS DO NOT PUT THAT 220 00:07:25,466 --> 00:07:31,900 AT THE TOP OF THEIR ISSUE LIST. 221 00:07:28,566 --> 00:07:35,300 DEMOCRATS DO. 222 00:07:29,900 --> 00:07:38,133 AND I THINK THE WORRY FOR BIDEN 223 00:07:31,900 --> 00:07:39,766 ON THIS ISSUE LIST IS THAT HE 224 00:07:35,300 --> 00:07:41,800 WILL CONTINUE SPEAKING TO HIS 225 00:07:38,133 --> 00:07:43,866 PARTY RATHER THAN TO THE SWING 226 00:07:39,766 --> 00:07:46,833 VOTERS THAT HE CAN KEEP FROM 227 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:47,133 GOING BACK TO TRUMP. 228 00:07:43,866 --> 00:07:48,266 >> AND I'M AFRAID WE WERE OUT OF