1 00:00:03,804 --> 00:00:04,805 >>>TONIGHT IN 2 00:00:04,805 --> 00:00:05,138 ATLANTA 3 00:00:05,138 --> 00:00:05,939 AN 4 00:00:05,939 --> 00:00:06,540 NCAA 5 00:00:06,540 --> 00:00:07,708 BASKETBALL CHAMPION WILL BE 6 00:00:07,708 --> 00:00:08,408 CROWNED. 7 00:00:08,408 --> 00:00:10,344 50 YEARS AGO 8 00:00:10,344 --> 00:00:11,078 CHICAGO'S 9 00:00:11,078 --> 00:00:11,645 LOYOLA 10 00:00:11,645 --> 00:00:12,813 UNIVERSITY WON THE TITLE, 11 00:00:12,813 --> 00:00:14,748 STILL THE ONLY TEAM TO HOLD 12 00:00:14,748 --> 00:00:15,315 THAT 13 00:00:15,315 --> 00:00:15,916 DISTINCTION. 14 00:00:15,916 --> 00:00:17,417 THE VICTORY CAME IN A 15 00:00:17,417 --> 00:00:18,585 THRILLING OVERTIME GAME. 16 00:00:18,585 --> 00:00:20,020 BUT THE VENTS 17 00:00:20,020 --> 00:00:20,554 LEADING UP TO 18 00:00:20,554 --> 00:00:21,788 THE WIN WAS AS 19 00:00:21,788 --> 00:00:22,489 COMPELLING AS 20 00:00:22,489 --> 00:00:23,991 THE GAME. 21 00:00:23,991 --> 00:00:26,693 WE WILL TALK 22 00:00:26,693 --> 00:00:27,027 TO 23 00:00:27,027 --> 00:00:27,794 A NEW 24 00:00:27,794 --> 00:00:28,729 AUTHOR. 25 00:00:28,729 --> 00:00:29,696 BUT FIRST THE 26 00:00:29,696 --> 00:00:30,998 HOSTILE RACIAL 27 00:00:30,998 --> 00:00:36,937 CLIMATE THE TEAM FACED. 28 00:00:36,937 --> 00:00:37,771 >>EARLY 29 00:00:37,771 --> 00:00:38,505 19 30 00:00:38,505 --> 00:00:39,506 60s AMERICA, THE 31 00:00:39,506 --> 00:00:41,341 CIVIL RIGHTS STRUGGLE WAS IN 32 00:00:41,341 --> 00:00:41,808 FULL SWING. 33 00:00:41,808 --> 00:00:42,743 IN THE 34 00:00:42,743 --> 00:00:43,810 SEGREGATED SOUTH, 35 00:00:43,810 --> 00:00:44,845 -- 36 00:00:44,845 --> 00:00:45,512 AFRICAN-AMERICANS WEREN'T 37 00:00:45,512 --> 00:00:47,181 ALLOWED TO PLAY SPORTS AT MOST 38 00:00:47,181 --> 00:00:48,448 MAJOR COLLEGES, EVEN IF 39 00:00:48,448 --> 00:00:49,082 THEY 40 00:00:49,082 --> 00:00:50,217 COULD GAIN ADMISSION. 41 00:00:50,217 --> 00:00:52,085 THINGS WERE SLIGHTLY BETTER 42 00:00:52,085 --> 00:00:52,619 FOR BLACK 43 00:00:52,619 --> 00:00:53,654 ATHLETES IN THE 44 00:00:53,654 --> 00:00:54,054 NORTH. 45 00:00:54,054 --> 00:00:55,022 >>IT WAS AN 46 00:00:55,022 --> 00:00:56,256 UNWRITTEN 47 00:00:56,256 --> 00:00:57,291 RULE 48 00:00:57,291 --> 00:00:57,858 , 49 00:00:57,858 --> 00:00:59,126 THAT THE MOST YOU SHOULD 50 00:00:59,126 --> 00:00:59,760 HAVE 51 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:00,527 IS TWO. 52 00:01:00,527 --> 00:01:01,895 AND THEY WERE 53 00:01:01,895 --> 00:01:02,462 PUSHING THAT 54 00:01:02,462 --> 00:01:04,331 MIGHT BE TOO MUCH. 55 00:01:04,331 --> 00:01:05,165 >>IN 56 00:01:05,165 --> 00:01:05,499 1961 57 00:01:05,499 --> 00:01:06,300 , 58 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:07,267 LOYOLA 59 00:01:07,267 --> 00:01:07,835 COACH 60 00:01:07,835 --> 00:01:09,770 IRELAND WAS TIRED OF 61 00:01:09,770 --> 00:01:10,571 MEDIOCRITY HE 62 00:01:10,571 --> 00:01:11,271 COACHED THE 63 00:01:11,271 --> 00:01:12,739 RAMBLERS FOR 10 YEARS TO 64 00:01:12,739 --> 00:01:13,540 MODERATE SUCCESS. 65 00:01:13,540 --> 00:01:14,741 A 500 RECORD DIDN'T 66 00:01:14,741 --> 00:01:16,143 SUIT THE 67 00:01:16,143 --> 00:01:16,844 AMBITIOUS COACH. 68 00:01:16,844 --> 00:01:18,078 HE WANTED TO 69 00:01:18,078 --> 00:01:19,012 WIN BIG. 70 00:01:19,012 --> 00:01:19,947 >>HE WON 15 71 00:01:19,947 --> 00:01:21,014 GAMES AND LOST 72 00:01:21,014 --> 00:01:22,082 10, 73 00:01:22,082 --> 00:01:23,183 LOYOLA WOULD 74 00:01:23,183 --> 00:01:24,551 BE HAPPY WITH 75 00:01:24,551 --> 00:01:25,419 GEORGE 76 00:01:25,419 --> 00:01:26,353 IRELAND. 77 00:01:26,353 --> 00:01:27,521 HE WANTED TO WIN. 78 00:01:27,521 --> 00:01:28,755 HE SAID I'M GOING TO DO 79 00:01:28,755 --> 00:01:30,157 IT. 80 00:01:30,157 --> 00:01:30,591 >>GEORGE 81 00:01:30,591 --> 00:01:32,292 IRELAND WAS READY TO 82 00:01:32,292 --> 00:01:33,126 RECRUIT AMERICA'S BEST 83 00:01:33,126 --> 00:01:33,527 PLAYERS. 84 00:01:33,527 --> 00:01:34,761 HE WAS READY TO PUT 85 00:01:34,761 --> 00:01:35,329 THEM ON 86 00:01:35,329 --> 00:01:36,563 THE FLOOR, NO MATTER WHAT 87 00:01:36,563 --> 00:01:37,497 THEIR RACE. 88 00:01:37,497 --> 00:01:38,732 HE WAS ALSO READY 89 00:01:38,732 --> 00:01:40,067 FOR CRITICS. 90 00:01:40,067 --> 00:01:40,934 >>HE WAS 91 00:01:40,934 --> 00:01:41,668 JUST 92 00:01:41,668 --> 00:01:42,269 RIDICULED. 93 00:01:42,269 --> 00:01:44,137 WHEN HE WOULDN'T MAKE A 94 00:01:44,137 --> 00:01:45,005 BANQUET THEY SAID HE'S OUT 95 00:01:45,005 --> 00:01:45,739 IN 96 00:01:45,739 --> 00:01:46,940 AFRICA RECRUITING BALL 97 00:01:46,940 --> 00:01:48,008 PLAYERS. 98 00:01:48,008 --> 00:01:49,543 AND THINGS LIKE THAT 99 00:01:49,543 --> 00:01:50,611 >>TEAM IRELAND PUT TOGETHER 100 00:01:50,611 --> 00:01:51,879 INCLUDED A STARTING LINE-UP 101 00:01:51,879 --> 00:01:52,880 OF 102 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:53,947 FOUR AFRICAN-AMERICANS. 103 00:01:53,947 --> 00:01:56,617 LESLIE HUNTER AND 104 00:01:56,617 --> 00:01:59,820 VIC 105 00:01:59,820 --> 00:02:00,120 ROUSE 106 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,689 FROM NASHVILLE 107 00:02:02,689 --> 00:02:03,457 , 108 00:02:03,457 --> 00:02:04,224 JOHN 109 00:02:04,224 --> 00:02:05,626 EGAN. 110 00:02:05,626 --> 00:02:06,493 THE NEW 111 00:02:06,493 --> 00:02:07,794 TALENT 112 00:02:07,794 --> 00:02:08,829 TRANSFORMED 113 00:02:08,829 --> 00:02:10,964 LOYOLA BASKETBALL OVERNIGHT, 114 00:02:10,964 --> 00:02:11,431 THE 115 00:02:11,431 --> 00:02:13,200 TEAM WENT 116 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:13,634 23-4 117 00:02:13,634 --> 00:02:14,234 MAKING THE 118 00:02:14,234 --> 00:02:15,736 FINAL FOUR IN THE NIT 119 00:02:15,736 --> 00:02:16,503 TOURNAMENT. 120 00:02:16,503 --> 00:02:18,038 SUCCESS ON THE COURT CAME 121 00:02:18,038 --> 00:02:18,939 DESPITE THE 122 00:02:18,939 --> 00:02:19,873 PERSISTENT RACISM 123 00:02:19,873 --> 00:02:21,508 THAT SURROUNDED THE TEAM. 124 00:02:21,508 --> 00:02:22,242 >> 125 00:02:22,242 --> 00:02:22,976 IT 126 00:02:22,976 --> 00:02:23,777 WAS 127 00:02:23,777 --> 00:02:26,947 CHANCE 128 00:02:26,947 --> 00:02:27,581 CHANTS, OUR 129 00:02:27,581 --> 00:02:28,749 TEAM IS RED HOT, YOUR 130 00:02:28,749 --> 00:02:29,383 TEAM IS 131 00:02:29,383 --> 00:02:30,484 ALL BLACK. 132 00:02:30,484 --> 00:02:31,985 >>STUDENTS, YOUR PEOPLE I 133 00:02:31,985 --> 00:02:32,986 SHOULD SAY IN THE 134 00:02:32,986 --> 00:02:33,854 STANDS WHO 135 00:02:33,854 --> 00:02:34,788 WOULD THROW 136 00:02:34,788 --> 00:02:36,089 COINS OUT ON THE 137 00:02:36,089 --> 00:02:37,024 COURT, WHO 138 00:02:37,024 --> 00:02:38,358 WOULD 139 00:02:38,358 --> 00:02:38,692 HURL 140 00:02:38,692 --> 00:02:39,259 PAPER 141 00:02:39,259 --> 00:02:40,494 BAGS, JUST GARBAGE 142 00:02:40,494 --> 00:02:41,461 AT US A 143 00:02:41,461 --> 00:02:43,330 WHEN WE WERE IN THE HUDDLE. 144 00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:43,830 ALL KINDS 145 00:02:43,830 --> 00:02:45,232 OF THINGS WERE BEING 146 00:02:45,232 --> 00:02:46,366 SCREAMED AT US. 147 00:02:46,366 --> 00:02:47,801 >>AT HALFTIME HE WENT UNDER 148 00:02:47,801 --> 00:02:48,936 THE TUNNEL, I 149 00:02:48,936 --> 00:02:49,336 WILL NEVER 150 00:02:49,336 --> 00:02:50,470 FORGET, THEY ARE 151 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:51,805 SPITTING ON 152 00:02:51,805 --> 00:02:53,373 US THROWING MONEY ON US, 153 00:02:53,373 --> 00:02:54,174 CALLING US ALL OF 154 00:02:54,174 --> 00:02:54,842 NAMES. 155 00:02:54,842 --> 00:02:56,109 I WONDERED WHY THEY 156 00:02:56,109 --> 00:02:56,777 HATED ME 157 00:02:56,777 --> 00:02:58,045 SO AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW 158 00:02:58,045 --> 00:02:58,679 ME. 159 00:02:58,679 --> 00:03:00,214 >>JOINING US WITH THE REST OF 160 00:03:00,214 --> 00:03:01,548 THE STORY ARE JOHN 161 00:03:01,548 --> 00:03:02,449 EGAN, HE 162 00:03:02,449 --> 00:03:03,383 WAS A JUNIOR 163 00:03:03,383 --> 00:03:05,185 ON THE 164 00:03:05,185 --> 00:03:06,186 19673 165 00:03:06,186 --> 00:03:06,887 CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM. 166 00:03:06,887 --> 00:03:08,121 RICH ROCHELLE, 167 00:03:08,121 --> 00:03:08,922 BACK-UP 168 00:03:08,922 --> 00:03:09,890 CENTER 169 00:03:09,890 --> 00:03:11,725 ALSO A IOR DURING THE 170 00:03:11,725 --> 00:03:12,326 CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON. 171 00:03:12,326 --> 00:03:13,360 MICHAEL LENEHAN 172 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,695 THE AUTHOR OF 173 00:03:14,695 --> 00:03:15,996 A NEW BOOK ABOUT THE TEAM 174 00:03:15,996 --> 00:03:17,030 AND 175 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:18,398 THEIR CHAMPIONSHIP 176 00:03:18,398 --> 00:03:19,333 SEASON 177 00:03:19,333 --> 00:03:22,769 . 178 00:03:22,769 --> 00:03:23,871 WELCOME ALL TO CHICAGO 179 00:03:23,871 --> 00:03:24,705 TONIGHT. 180 00:03:24,705 --> 00:03:25,839 PLAYERS CONGRATULATIONS ON 181 00:03:25,839 --> 00:03:27,708 THIS 50th ANNIVERSARY. 182 00:03:27,708 --> 00:03:28,175 LET ME 183 00:03:28,175 --> 00:03:29,543 BEGIN WITH MICHAEL 184 00:03:29,543 --> 00:03:29,910 LENEHAN. 185 00:03:29,910 --> 00:03:31,144 IN TERMS OF RACE, WHAT 186 00:03:31,144 --> 00:03:31,445 MADE 187 00:03:31,445 --> 00:03:32,913 THIS TEAM UNIQUE? 188 00:03:32,913 --> 00:03:33,814 THERE WERE OTHER TEAMS 189 00:03:33,814 --> 00:03:34,381 THAT 190 00:03:34,381 --> 00:03:35,549 HAD AFRICAN-AMERICAN PLAYERS. 191 00:03:35,549 --> 00:03:36,416 >>THE 192 00:03:36,416 --> 00:03:37,551 INTEGRATION OF 193 00:03:37,551 --> 00:03:37,918 COLLEGE 194 00:03:37,918 --> 00:03:39,353 BASKETBALL STARTS AT 195 00:03:39,353 --> 00:03:40,053 THE END 196 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:41,655 OF THE WAR AND IT GOES 197 00:03:41,655 --> 00:03:42,256 UP 198 00:03:42,256 --> 00:03:44,691 ñU t 199 00:03:44,691 --> 00:03:45,759 THROUGH LET'S 200 00:03:45,759 --> 00:03:47,127 SAY 201 00:03:47,127 --> 00:03:50,664 'S 66 202 00:03:50,664 --> 00:03:51,231 -- 203 00:03:51,231 --> 00:03:53,834 LET'S SAY 204 00:03:53,834 --> 00:03:56,336 '66 WON 205 00:03:56,336 --> 00:03:57,638 -- WHEN 206 00:03:57,638 --> 00:03:58,105 TEXAS WON WITH 207 00:03:58,105 --> 00:03:59,439 FIVE BLACK 208 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:00,240 STARTERS. 209 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,109 THEY WERE 210 00:04:02,109 --> 00:04:02,743 RELUCTANT ABOUT HOW 211 00:04:02,743 --> 00:04:03,944 MANY BLACK FACES THEY 212 00:04:03,944 --> 00:04:04,578 HAD IN 213 00:04:04,578 --> 00:04:05,712 THE TEAM PICTURE. 214 00:04:05,712 --> 00:04:07,281 THE INSTITUTIONS WERE 215 00:04:07,281 --> 00:04:08,615 OVERWHELMINGLY WHITE EVEN THE 216 00:04:08,615 --> 00:04:09,550 ONES WHO ARE 217 00:04:09,550 --> 00:04:10,184 RECRUITING AND 218 00:04:10,184 --> 00:04:11,685 PLAYING A LOT OF BLACK PLAYERS 219 00:04:11,685 --> 00:04:12,953 THE STUDENT BODY IS 220 00:04:12,953 --> 00:04:14,354 WHITE, THE 221 00:04:14,354 --> 00:04:14,888 FACULTY WHITE 222 00:04:14,888 --> 00:04:15,656 , 223 00:04:15,656 --> 00:04:16,690 ALUMNI WHITER 224 00:04:16,690 --> 00:04:18,525 THAN THE STUDENT BODY AND 225 00:04:18,525 --> 00:04:19,326 FACULTY. 226 00:04:19,326 --> 00:04:20,594 COACHES WERE A 227 00:04:20,594 --> 00:04:21,261 LITTLE 228 00:04:21,261 --> 00:04:21,795 LESS 229 00:04:21,795 --> 00:04:22,162 TAN. 230 00:04:22,162 --> 00:04:23,497 HOW MANY BLACK GUYS CAN 231 00:04:23,497 --> 00:04:23,864 I PUT 232 00:04:23,864 --> 00:04:25,365 ON THE FLOOR AND STILL 233 00:04:25,365 --> 00:04:26,533 REPRESENT THIS WHITE 234 00:04:26,533 --> 00:04:27,234 INSTITUTION? 235 00:04:27,234 --> 00:04:28,535 >>THERE WAS AN 236 00:04:28,535 --> 00:04:29,102 UNWRITTEN LAW 237 00:04:29,102 --> 00:04:30,571 YOU COULD HAVE TWO 238 00:04:30,571 --> 00:04:31,305 AFRICAN-AMERICAN PLAYERS ON 239 00:04:31,305 --> 00:04:32,639 THE COURT AT ANY TIME. 240 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:34,107 AND YOU WERE PUSHING THINGS IF 241 00:04:34,107 --> 00:04:35,609 YOU WENT BEYOND THAT. 242 00:04:35,609 --> 00:04:36,510 >>YOU KNOW 243 00:04:36,510 --> 00:04:37,945 , UNWRITTEN LAW 244 00:04:37,945 --> 00:04:38,645 , 245 00:04:38,645 --> 00:04:40,047 GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT, 246 00:04:40,047 --> 00:04:41,582 I 247 00:04:41,582 --> 00:04:42,449 INTERPRET IT MOSTLY 248 00:04:42,449 --> 00:04:43,851 AS A JOKE. 249 00:04:43,851 --> 00:04:44,718 COACHES TOLD EACH OTHER 250 00:04:44,718 --> 00:04:45,786 , COULD 251 00:04:45,786 --> 00:04:47,855 YOU 252 00:04:47,855 --> 00:04:48,288 PLAY 253 00:04:48,288 --> 00:04:49,356 -- HOW DID IT 254 00:04:49,356 --> 00:04:49,923 GO? 255 00:04:49,923 --> 00:04:50,958 ONE ON THE ROAD 256 00:04:50,958 --> 00:04:52,259 , TWO AT HOME, 257 00:04:52,259 --> 00:04:54,194 THREE IF YOU ARE WAY BEHIND. 258 00:04:54,194 --> 00:04:55,295 THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD SAY. 259 00:04:55,295 --> 00:04:56,296 >>I MEANT TO MENTION 260 00:04:56,296 --> 00:04:57,364 THAT 261 00:04:57,364 --> 00:04:59,099 THAT 262 00:04:59,099 --> 00:04:59,766 WAS 263 00:04:59,766 --> 00:05:00,534 BOB SIROTT 264 00:05:00,534 --> 00:05:00,934 REPORTING 265 00:05:00,934 --> 00:05:02,536 THAT PIECE. 266 00:05:02,536 --> 00:05:03,370 RICH ROCHELLE, 267 00:05:03,370 --> 00:05:04,071 HOW GOOD WAS 268 00:05:04,071 --> 00:05:04,838 THE TEAM? 269 00:05:04,838 --> 00:05:05,973 >>STREETLY GOOD. 270 00:05:05,973 --> 00:05:07,407 OUR STARTING FIVE 271 00:05:07,407 --> 00:05:08,675 , -- 272 00:05:08,675 --> 00:05:09,409 EXTREMELY GOOD. 273 00:05:09,409 --> 00:05:11,278 OUR STARTING FIVE WAS 274 00:05:11,278 --> 00:05:12,079 COMPARABLE TO THE BEST 275 00:05:12,079 --> 00:05:12,779 THAT 276 00:05:12,779 --> 00:05:14,214 I'VE EVER SEEN. 277 00:05:14,214 --> 00:05:16,216 THEY WERE 278 00:05:16,216 --> 00:05:17,484 FOCUSED 279 00:05:17,484 --> 00:05:18,418 . 280 00:05:18,418 --> 00:05:19,253 AND WE WORKED 281 00:05:19,253 --> 00:05:20,988 HARD AS A 282 00:05:20,988 --> 00:05:21,822 SUPPORTING STAFF 283 00:05:21,822 --> 00:05:22,523 TO HELP 284 00:05:22,523 --> 00:05:23,156 THEM 285 00:05:23,156 --> 00:05:24,658 BE THE VERY BEST THAT THEY 286 00:05:24,658 --> 00:05:25,792 COULD BE. 287 00:05:25,792 --> 00:05:27,628 THEY WERE 288 00:05:27,628 --> 00:05:28,662 ATHLETIC, THEY 289 00:05:28,662 --> 00:05:29,696 WERE 290 00:05:29,696 --> 00:05:30,597 FAST, THEY 291 00:05:30,597 --> 00:05:31,698 WERE 292 00:05:31,698 --> 00:05:32,366 INTELLIGENT. 293 00:05:32,366 --> 00:05:33,500 THEY DID EVERYTHING 294 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:34,468 THAT YOU 295 00:05:34,468 --> 00:05:35,702 WOULD WANT A GROUP 296 00:05:35,702 --> 00:05:36,403 OF YOUNG 297 00:05:36,403 --> 00:05:37,504 MEN TO DO, TO 298 00:05:37,504 --> 00:05:38,939 BE SUCCESSFUL. 299 00:05:38,939 --> 00:05:39,773 >>HOW DID 300 00:05:39,773 --> 00:05:40,507 YOU 301 00:05:40,507 --> 00:05:42,042 SEE JOHN 302 00:05:42,042 --> 00:05:42,342 EGAN 303 00:05:42,342 --> 00:05:44,144 HOW YOU DID SEE THINGS AS THE 304 00:05:44,144 --> 00:05:44,912 ONLY WHITE PLAYER IN THE 305 00:05:44,912 --> 00:05:46,213 STARTING 306 00:05:46,213 --> 00:05:46,580 LINE-UP? 307 00:05:46,580 --> 00:05:48,015 DO YOU THINK YOU UNDERSTOOD 308 00:05:48,015 --> 00:05:49,149 WHAT THE 309 00:05:49,149 --> 00:05:49,950 OTHER PLAYERS WERE 310 00:05:49,950 --> 00:05:50,484 GOING THROUGH? 311 00:05:50,484 --> 00:05:52,085 >>NOT ENTIRELY. 312 00:05:52,085 --> 00:05:52,986 I WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH 313 00:05:52,986 --> 00:05:53,887 THE 314 00:05:53,887 --> 00:05:54,988 UNWRITTEN RULE THAT YOU WERE 315 00:05:54,988 --> 00:05:56,557 TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE I 316 00:05:56,557 --> 00:05:57,724 DIDN'T REALLY FOLLOW COLLEGE 317 00:05:57,724 --> 00:05:58,592 BASKETBALL THAT CLOSELY. 318 00:05:58,592 --> 00:06:00,827 >>YOU JUST PLAYED IT. 319 00:06:00,827 --> 00:06:01,962 >>JUST PLAY. 320 00:06:01,962 --> 00:06:03,163 I DON'T REALLY THINK 321 00:06:03,163 --> 00:06:04,164 I COULD 322 00:06:04,164 --> 00:06:05,332 IDENTIFY WITH THE THING FAST 323 00:06:05,332 --> 00:06:06,567 THAT THE BLACK PLAYERS 324 00:06:06,567 --> 00:06:07,167 WERE 325 00:06:07,167 --> 00:06:08,468 GOING THROUGH THAT SEASON 326 00:06:08,468 --> 00:06:09,803 , 327 00:06:09,803 --> 00:06:10,204 BECAUSE 328 00:06:10,204 --> 00:06:11,305 THEY'VE BEEN BLACK 329 00:06:11,305 --> 00:06:12,339 SINCE THEY WERE BORN. 330 00:06:12,339 --> 00:06:13,540 A LOT OF THINGS THAT 331 00:06:13,540 --> 00:06:13,907 DIDN'T 332 00:06:13,907 --> 00:06:15,075 BOTHER ME, I KNOW 333 00:06:15,075 --> 00:06:15,676 BOTHERED 334 00:06:15,676 --> 00:06:16,143 THEM. 335 00:06:16,143 --> 00:06:17,644 WE OF COURSE DIDN'T GET IT AT 336 00:06:17,644 --> 00:06:17,945 HOME. 337 00:06:17,945 --> 00:06:19,880 WE GOT IT ON THE ROAD. 338 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:20,814 >>SPEAKING OF 339 00:06:20,814 --> 00:06:21,682 GETTING IT ON 340 00:06:21,682 --> 00:06:22,449 THE ROAD. 341 00:06:22,449 --> 00:06:23,650 RICH, MY UNDERSTANDING 342 00:06:23,650 --> 00:06:24,351 IS THAT 343 00:06:24,351 --> 00:06:25,786 YOU A PARTICULARLY TOUGH TIME, 344 00:06:25,786 --> 00:06:27,287 THE BLACK PLAYERS HAD A TOUGH 345 00:06:27,287 --> 00:06:28,589 TIME IN HOUSTON, WHEN 346 00:06:28,589 --> 00:06:28,889 YOU 347 00:06:28,889 --> 00:06:29,590 PLAYED THAT YEAR. 348 00:06:29,590 --> 00:06:30,591 TELL US ABOUT 349 00:06:30,591 --> 00:06:32,192 HOUSTON. 350 00:06:32,192 --> 00:06:32,759 >> 351 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:33,594 THAT WAS 352 00:06:33,594 --> 00:06:34,361 IN MY OPINION 353 00:06:34,361 --> 00:06:35,128 , 354 00:06:35,128 --> 00:06:37,798 THE 355 00:06:37,798 --> 00:06:40,267 WORST 356 00:06:40,267 --> 00:06:41,068 OPEN 357 00:06:41,068 --> 00:06:42,002 RACISM 358 00:06:42,002 --> 00:06:43,003 THAT WE HAD 359 00:06:43,003 --> 00:06:43,437 FACED. 360 00:06:43,437 --> 00:06:44,938 WE HAD FACED IT IN OTHER 361 00:06:44,938 --> 00:06:46,106 PLACES, OBVIOUSLY. 362 00:06:46,106 --> 00:06:47,674 BUT IN HOUSTON 363 00:06:47,674 --> 00:06:48,609 , 364 00:06:48,609 --> 00:06:49,743 WE WERE 365 00:06:49,743 --> 00:06:50,310 SPIT 366 00:06:50,310 --> 00:06:51,612 UPON, WE HAD 367 00:06:51,612 --> 00:06:52,246 GARBAGE 368 00:06:52,246 --> 00:06:53,180 THROWN AT 369 00:06:53,180 --> 00:06:54,515 US, PENNIES 370 00:06:54,515 --> 00:06:55,916 THROWN 371 00:06:55,916 --> 00:06:56,750 AT US. 372 00:06:56,750 --> 00:06:58,385 AS WE SAT ON THE 373 00:06:58,385 --> 00:06:58,752 BENCH WE 374 00:06:58,752 --> 00:06:59,052 HAD 375 00:06:59,052 --> 00:07:00,254 TO DODGE ICE BEING 376 00:07:00,254 --> 00:07:00,888 THROWN AT 377 00:07:00,888 --> 00:07:02,856 US AND OF COURSE YOU HAD 378 00:07:02,856 --> 00:07:03,590 THE "N" WORD BEING 379 00:07:03,590 --> 00:07:04,124 USED 380 00:07:04,124 --> 00:07:04,558 FREQUENTLY IS 381 00:07:04,558 --> 00:07:05,826 >>HOW DID YOU REACT TO 382 00:07:05,826 --> 00:07:06,126 THAT 383 00:07:06,126 --> 00:07:06,994 AS A 384 00:07:06,994 --> 00:07:08,529 BLACK MAN? 385 00:07:08,529 --> 00:07:09,062 >>AS A 386 00:07:09,062 --> 00:07:10,097 YOUNG BLACK MAN, 387 00:07:10,097 --> 00:07:11,231 NUMBER ONE IT WAS VERY 388 00:07:11,231 --> 00:07:12,466 DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH. 389 00:07:12,466 --> 00:07:14,067 YOU REACT TO YOU IT BY 390 00:07:14,067 --> 00:07:15,369 NOT 391 00:07:15,369 --> 00:07:15,769 REACTING. 392 00:07:15,769 --> 00:07:16,970 YOU GO AHEAD AND DO THE JOB 393 00:07:16,970 --> 00:07:18,839 YOU ARE THERE TO DO. 394 00:07:18,839 --> 00:07:19,339 OUR JOB 395 00:07:19,339 --> 00:07:20,741 WAS TO PLAY 396 00:07:20,741 --> 00:07:22,242 BASKETBALL. 397 00:07:22,242 --> 00:07:23,010 TO 398 00:07:23,010 --> 00:07:24,444 REPRESENT THE 399 00:07:24,444 --> 00:07:25,479 CHICAGO 400 00:07:25,479 --> 00:07:26,446 AREA, 401 00:07:26,446 --> 00:07:26,947 WITH AS MUCH 402 00:07:26,947 --> 00:07:27,748 DIGNITY AND 403 00:07:27,748 --> 00:07:28,282 GRACE 404 00:07:28,282 --> 00:07:30,350 AS WE POSSIBLY COULD. 405 00:07:30,350 --> 00:07:31,885 >>WAS THAT HARD AT TIMES? 406 00:07:31,885 --> 00:07:33,253 >>IT WAS DIFFICULT 407 00:07:33,253 --> 00:07:34,288 , 408 00:07:34,288 --> 00:07:34,888 BUT 409 00:07:34,888 --> 00:07:35,556 WE 410 00:07:35,556 --> 00:07:37,057 WOULD SIT AND TALK ABOUT HOW 411 00:07:37,057 --> 00:07:38,825 WE WOULD HANDLE CERTAIN 412 00:07:38,825 --> 00:07:39,560 SITUATIONS. 413 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,761 >>YOU AND YOUR 414 00:07:40,761 --> 00:07:42,462 TEAMMATES? 415 00:07:42,462 --> 00:07:43,463 >>TEAMMATES. 416 00:07:43,463 --> 00:07:44,698 THE BLACK 417 00:07:44,698 --> 00:07:45,666 TEAMMATES SPENT A 418 00:07:45,666 --> 00:07:46,967 LOT OF TIME IN MY HOME 419 00:07:46,967 --> 00:07:47,568 , MY 420 00:07:47,568 --> 00:07:49,436 MOTHER USED TO COOK FOR THEM. 421 00:07:49,436 --> 00:07:50,370 THEY WOULD SIT AROUND 422 00:07:50,370 --> 00:07:51,038 AND TALK 423 00:07:51,038 --> 00:07:52,039 ABOUT WHAT WE 424 00:07:52,039 --> 00:07:52,573 SHOULD AND 425 00:07:52,573 --> 00:07:55,375 SHOULD NOT DO. 426 00:07:55,375 --> 00:07:56,276 AND AGAIN 427 00:07:56,276 --> 00:07:57,644 , WE WANTED TO 428 00:07:57,644 --> 00:07:58,478 CONDUCT OURSELVES 429 00:07:58,478 --> 00:07:58,779 AS 430 00:07:58,779 --> 00:07:59,847 GENTLEMEN. 431 00:07:59,847 --> 00:08:01,248 AND SO, WE ALLOWED THEM 432 00:08:01,248 --> 00:08:01,815 TO BE 433 00:08:01,815 --> 00:08:03,383 WHO THEY WERE 434 00:08:03,383 --> 00:08:04,151 , THE 435 00:08:04,151 --> 00:08:05,085 PEOPLE 436 00:08:05,085 --> 00:08:06,119 WHO 437 00:08:06,119 --> 00:08:06,887 WERE FOR LACK OF 438 00:08:06,887 --> 00:08:07,721 A BETTER TERM 439 00:08:07,721 --> 00:08:08,655 , 440 00:08:08,655 --> 00:08:09,056 IGNORANT. 441 00:08:09,056 --> 00:08:10,224 AND WE DECIDED THAT WE 442 00:08:10,224 --> 00:08:10,791 WOULD 443 00:08:10,791 --> 00:08:13,026 NOT GET INVOLVED. 444 00:08:13,026 --> 00:08:14,461 >> 445 00:08:14,461 --> 00:08:15,596 >>MIKE: ALLEN 446 00:08:15,596 --> 00:08:16,163 HAND PERHAPS 447 00:08:16,163 --> 00:08:17,297 THE MOST 448 00:08:17,297 --> 00:08:18,098 FAMOUS 449 00:08:18,098 --> 00:08:19,399 -- MICHAEL 450 00:08:19,399 --> 00:08:20,634 LENEHAN PERHAPS 451 00:08:20,634 --> 00:08:21,702 THE 452 00:08:21,702 --> 00:08:22,002 MOST 453 00:08:22,002 --> 00:08:23,770 FAMOUS WAS THE GAME AGAINST 454 00:08:23,770 --> 00:08:24,872 MISSISSIPPI STATE. 455 00:08:24,872 --> 00:08:25,939 WHY WAS THAT A 456 00:08:25,939 --> 00:08:26,673 KEY GAME? 457 00:08:26,673 --> 00:08:28,575 >>MISSISSIPPI HAD AN 458 00:08:28,575 --> 00:08:29,409 UNWRITTEN 459 00:08:29,409 --> 00:08:30,277 POLICY 460 00:08:30,277 --> 00:08:31,512 ;bP 461 00:08:31,512 --> 00:08:32,479 THAT 462 00:08:32,479 --> 00:08:32,779 THEI 463 00:08:32,779 --> 00:08:33,480 STATE SUPPORTED SCHOOLS WOULD 464 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:34,047 NOT PLAYR 465 00:08:34,047 --> 00:08:35,983 AGAINST INTEGRATED 466 00:08:35,983 --> 00:08:37,084 TEAMS. 467 00:08:37,084 --> 00:08:37,484 ALTHOUGH THEY 468 00:08:37,484 --> 00:08:38,619 WON THE 469 00:08:38,619 --> 00:08:39,553 SEC 470 00:08:39,553 --> 00:08:40,454 TITLE, 471 00:08:40,454 --> 00:08:41,989 FOUR YEARS OUT OF FIVE 472 00:08:41,989 --> 00:08:42,556 , 473 00:08:42,556 --> 00:08:43,423 THE TITLE THAT IS 474 00:08:43,423 --> 00:08:43,991 NORMALLY 475 00:08:43,991 --> 00:08:45,025 OWNED BY 476 00:08:45,025 --> 00:08:45,993 ADOLPH 477 00:08:45,993 --> 00:08:47,127 OF KENTUCKY 478 00:08:47,127 --> 00:08:47,694 , 479 00:08:47,694 --> 00:08:49,162 THEY DIDN'T GO TO THE 480 00:08:49,162 --> 00:08:50,397 TOURNAMENT, IN 481 00:08:50,397 --> 00:08:51,465 FACT 482 00:08:51,465 --> 00:08:52,199 , 483 00:08:52,199 --> 00:08:53,400 KENTUCKY 484 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:53,500 GO 485 00:08:53,500 --> 00:08:55,402 TO 486 00:08:55,402 --> 00:08:56,270 GO -- 487 00:08:56,270 --> 00:08:56,904 GOT TO GO 488 00:08:56,904 --> 00:08:57,671 IN THEIR 489 00:08:57,671 --> 00:08:59,106 PLACE BECAUSE OF THIS 490 00:08:59,106 --> 00:09:00,307 UNWRITTEN RULE, BECAUSE 491 00:09:00,307 --> 00:09:01,441 CHANCES ARE YOU ARE GOING TO 492 00:09:01,441 --> 00:09:02,676 RUN INTO AN 493 00:09:02,676 --> 00:09:03,310 AFRICAN-AMERICAN 494 00:09:03,310 --> 00:09:03,944 PLAYER. 495 00:09:03,944 --> 00:09:04,878 IN 1963 THE 496 00:09:04,878 --> 00:09:06,246 PRESIDENT OF THE 497 00:09:06,246 --> 00:09:07,714 UNIVERSITY DECIDED IT WAS TIME 498 00:09:07,714 --> 00:09:08,515 FOR A CHANGE. 499 00:09:08,515 --> 00:09:09,850 HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS 500 00:09:09,850 --> 00:09:10,184 GOING 501 00:09:10,184 --> 00:09:12,019 TO SEND THE TEAM TO THE 502 00:09:12,019 --> 00:09:12,986 TOURNAMENT 503 00:09:12,986 --> 00:09:13,987 . 504 00:09:13,987 --> 00:09:14,454 WHICH 505 00:09:14,454 --> 00:09:15,589 CAUSED A COUPLE OF 506 00:09:15,589 --> 00:09:16,557 WEEKS 507 00:09:16,557 --> 00:09:17,791 OF POLITICAL 508 00:09:17,791 --> 00:09:18,859 INFIGHTING AND A 509 00:09:18,859 --> 00:09:20,093 LOT OF NOISE BEING MADE 510 00:09:20,093 --> 00:09:21,128 IN 511 00:09:21,128 --> 00:09:22,496 CERTAIN MISSISSIPPI NEWSPAPERS 512 00:09:22,496 --> 00:09:23,864 . 513 00:09:23,864 --> 00:09:24,331 BUT, 514 00:09:24,331 --> 00:09:25,098 HE 515 00:09:25,098 --> 00:09:25,766 HANDLED 516 00:09:25,766 --> 00:09:26,733 THE SITUATION 517 00:09:26,733 --> 00:09:27,935 SKILLFULLY AND THEY WERE SET 518 00:09:27,935 --> 00:09:29,636 TO GO TO THE TOURNAMENT. 519 00:09:29,636 --> 00:09:30,270 AND IT 520 00:09:30,270 --> 00:09:31,238 QUICKLY 521 00:09:31,238 --> 00:09:32,272 BECAME KNOWN 522 00:09:32,272 --> 00:09:33,440 THAT THE TEAM THEY WERE 523 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,041 GONNA 524 00:09:34,041 --> 00:09:35,309 PLAY FIRST NOT ONLY HAD 525 00:09:35,309 --> 00:09:35,943 ONE 526 00:09:35,943 --> 00:09:37,177 BLACK GUY IT HAD 527 00:09:37,177 --> 00:09:38,545 FOUR BLACK 528 00:09:38,545 --> 00:09:39,580 GUYS 529 00:09:39,580 --> 00:09:40,948 . 530 00:09:40,948 --> 00:09:41,782 THE NIGHT BEFORE THEY 531 00:09:41,782 --> 00:09:43,483 WERE TO 532 00:09:43,483 --> 00:09:44,918 LEAVE 533 00:09:44,918 --> 00:09:45,219 FOR 534 00:09:45,219 --> 00:09:46,587 EAST LANSING, 535 00:09:46,587 --> 00:09:47,387 MICHIGAN, 536 00:09:47,387 --> 00:09:49,456 A COUPLE OF 537 00:09:49,456 --> 00:09:50,290 SEGREGATIONISTS POLITICIANS 538 00:09:50,290 --> 00:09:51,225 GOT A COURT 539 00:09:51,225 --> 00:09:52,292 ORDER FORBIDDING 540 00:09:52,292 --> 00:09:53,327 THEM TO GO 541 00:09:53,327 --> 00:09:54,661 . 542 00:09:54,661 --> 00:09:55,562 AND THEY 543 00:09:55,562 --> 00:09:56,230 RECEIVED WORD, 544 00:09:56,230 --> 00:09:56,830 THE 545 00:09:56,830 --> 00:09:57,564 PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES 546 00:09:57,564 --> 00:09:58,899 AND THE COACH 547 00:09:58,899 --> 00:09:59,967 , DAVE 548 00:09:59,967 --> 00:10:00,901 McCARTHY 549 00:10:00,901 --> 00:10:02,169 RECEIVED WORD IN 550 00:10:02,169 --> 00:10:02,970 STARKVILLE 551 00:10:02,970 --> 00:10:03,504 , 552 00:10:03,504 --> 00:10:04,271 MISSISSIPPI, WHERE THE 553 00:10:04,271 --> 00:10:06,773 UNIVERSITY WAS THAT THE 554 00:10:06,773 --> 00:10:07,374 INJUNCTION WAS 555 00:10:07,374 --> 00:10:10,577 ON IT 556 00:10:10,577 --> 00:10:11,411 -- 557 00:10:11,411 --> 00:10:12,913 ITS 558 00:10:12,913 --> 00:10:13,080 WAY 559 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,047 WHICH GAVE THEM THREE 560 00:10:14,047 --> 00:10:15,315 HOURS TO MAKE 561 00:10:15,315 --> 00:10:15,782 ARRANGEMENTS, 562 00:10:15,782 --> 00:10:17,150 THEY HAD A QUICK MEETING AND 563 00:10:17,150 --> 00:10:18,418 PEOPLE STARTED DISAPPEARING 564 00:10:18,418 --> 00:10:19,586 FROM THE STATE. 565 00:10:19,586 --> 00:10:21,154 >>THEY SNUCK OUT OF THE STATE, 566 00:10:21,154 --> 00:10:22,389 MADE IT TO EAST 567 00:10:22,389 --> 00:10:22,990 LANSING AND 568 00:10:22,990 --> 00:10:23,323 PLAYED. 569 00:10:23,323 --> 00:10:24,791 WHAT ARE YOUR RECOLLECTIONS OF 570 00:10:24,791 --> 00:10:26,093 THAT GAME JOHN 571 00:10:26,093 --> 00:10:26,860 EGAN? 572 00:10:26,860 --> 00:10:28,795 >>MY 573 00:10:28,795 --> 00:10:29,530 RECOLLECTIONS HAVE 574 00:10:29,530 --> 00:10:30,597 BEEN 575 00:10:30,597 --> 00:10:31,632 REINFORCED 576 00:10:31,632 --> 00:10:32,399 BY WHAT I READ 577 00:10:32,399 --> 00:10:33,567 ABOUT IT NOW. 578 00:10:33,567 --> 00:10:34,801 AT THAT TIME I HAD NO 579 00:10:34,801 --> 00:10:35,369 HOPE OF 580 00:10:35,369 --> 00:10:37,004 THEM NOT SHOWING UP. 581 00:10:37,004 --> 00:10:37,905 I KNEW WE WEREN'T 582 00:10:37,905 --> 00:10:39,273 FORTUNATE TO 583 00:10:39,273 --> 00:10:39,907 GET A BUY. 584 00:10:39,907 --> 00:10:41,275 I THINK WE PREPARED, I 585 00:10:41,275 --> 00:10:41,875 DON'T 586 00:10:41,875 --> 00:10:43,410 THINK ANYONE TALKED ABOUT THEM 587 00:10:43,410 --> 00:10:44,611 NOT SHOWING UP FOR THAT GAME. 588 00:10:44,611 --> 00:10:46,079 WE EXPECTED THEM TO BE THERE 589 00:10:46,079 --> 00:10:47,114 AND THEY WERE THERE. 590 00:10:47,114 --> 00:10:48,515 AND THEY WERE A REAL GOOD 591 00:10:48,515 --> 00:10:49,616 TEAM. 592 00:10:49,616 --> 00:10:50,717 SINCE THAT TIME OF COURSE, 593 00:10:50,717 --> 00:10:52,052 WE'VE HAD REUNIONS WITH 594 00:10:52,052 --> 00:10:53,053 THAT 595 00:10:53,053 --> 00:10:54,221 THEME AND WE'VE GOTTEN TO 596 00:10:54,221 --> 00:10:54,821 KNOW 597 00:10:54,821 --> 00:10:55,622 THE PLAYERS. 598 00:10:55,622 --> 00:10:56,924 I THINK -- WITH THAT 599 00:10:56,924 --> 00:10:57,491 TEAM AND 600 00:10:57,491 --> 00:10:58,625 WE'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW THE 601 00:10:58,625 --> 00:10:59,693 PLAYERS. 602 00:10:59,693 --> 00:11:00,961 I'M RIGHT WITH 603 00:11:00,961 --> 00:11:01,595 MY ASSESSMENT 604 00:11:01,595 --> 00:11:02,763 THEY WERE GOOD 605 00:11:02,763 --> 00:11:03,597 GUYS 606 00:11:03,597 --> 00:11:04,231 , 607 00:11:04,231 --> 00:11:05,766 .÷f UNLIKE -- 608 00:11:05,766 --> 00:11:06,266 >>MY 609 00:11:06,266 --> 00:11:06,934 UNDERSTANDING IS THAT 610 00:11:06,934 --> 00:11:08,235 THE BLACK 611 00:11:08,235 --> 00:11:08,902 PLAYERS 612 00:11:08,902 --> 00:11:09,837 ON THE TEAM 613 00:11:09,837 --> 00:11:11,038 BEFORE THE MISSISSIPPI STATE 614 00:11:11,038 --> 00:11:11,972 GAME, GOT 615 00:11:11,972 --> 00:11:13,073 IT FROM BOTH 616 00:11:13,073 --> 00:11:14,441 SIDES. 617 00:11:14,441 --> 00:11:15,108 EXPLAIN WHAT 618 00:11:15,108 --> 00:11:16,143 IS MEANT BY 619 00:11:16,143 --> 00:11:17,144 THAT? 620 00:11:17,144 --> 00:11:17,978 >>WELL 621 00:11:17,978 --> 00:11:18,712 , 622 00:11:18,712 --> 00:11:19,780 OBVIOUSLY, 623 00:11:19,780 --> 00:11:20,314 THE 624 00:11:20,314 --> 00:11:21,849 KU KLUX KLAN 625 00:11:21,849 --> 00:11:22,216 , 626 00:11:22,216 --> 00:11:23,183 WHITE 627 00:11:23,183 --> 00:11:24,785 SUPREMACIST GROUPS, ET CETERA 628 00:11:24,785 --> 00:11:25,352 , 629 00:11:25,352 --> 00:11:26,253 MADE A LOT OF 630 00:11:26,253 --> 00:11:28,522 THREATS. 631 00:11:28,522 --> 00:11:29,089 AND THEY 632 00:11:29,089 --> 00:11:30,257 SENT A LOT OF 633 00:11:30,257 --> 00:11:31,825 LETTERS 634 00:11:31,825 --> 00:11:31,959 THAT 635 00:11:31,959 --> 00:11:33,794 GEORGE IRELAND 636 00:11:33,794 --> 00:11:34,294 INTERCEPTED FOR THE 637 00:11:34,294 --> 00:11:35,062 MOST 638 00:11:35,062 --> 00:11:36,096 PART. 639 00:11:36,096 --> 00:11:36,730 THE COACH. 640 00:11:36,730 --> 00:11:38,065 THE WHOLE IDEA WAS THEY 641 00:11:38,065 --> 00:11:38,665 WERE 642 00:11:38,665 --> 00:11:39,600 GOING TO 643 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:40,968 INTIMIDATE US 644 00:11:40,968 --> 00:11:42,302 . 645 00:11:42,302 --> 00:11:43,504 AT THE SAME TIME 646 00:11:43,504 --> 00:11:44,571 , YOU HAD 647 00:11:44,571 --> 00:11:45,205 THE 648 00:11:45,205 --> 00:11:47,040 BLACK COMMUNITY, THE 649 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,208 AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY 650 00:11:48,208 --> 00:11:48,809 , 651 00:11:48,809 --> 00:11:51,512 WHO SAW THIS 652 00:11:51,512 --> 00:11:52,279 AS AN 653 00:11:52,279 --> 00:11:52,880 OPPORTUNITY 654 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:58,285 FOR THEIR ORGANIZATIONS 655 00:11:58,285 --> 00:11:59,219 TO 656 00:11:59,219 --> 00:11:59,653 PROSPER FROM 657 00:11:59,653 --> 00:12:01,088 THIS TEAM'S 658 00:12:01,088 --> 00:12:01,788 SUCCESSES. 659 00:12:01,788 --> 00:12:03,323 >>MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU GOT 660 00:12:03,323 --> 00:12:04,558 MAIL TO THE EFFECT THAT YOU 661 00:12:04,558 --> 00:12:05,692 BETTER NOT LOSE. 662 00:12:05,692 --> 00:12:07,995 >>YOU NEED TO WIN IN GAME. 663 00:12:07,995 --> 00:12:09,296 MOST OF THE MAIL WAS 664 00:12:09,296 --> 00:12:11,231 NOT 665 00:12:11,231 --> 00:12:12,165 THAT 666 00:12:12,165 --> 00:12:12,533 POIGNANT. 667 00:12:12,533 --> 00:12:14,201 BUT IT DID LET US 668 00:12:14,201 --> 00:12:15,202 KNOW 669 00:12:15,202 --> 00:12:15,802 THEIR 670 00:12:15,802 --> 00:12:17,337 EXPECTATION WAS, WE WERE GOING 671 00:12:17,337 --> 00:12:19,273 TO REPRESENT 672 00:12:19,273 --> 00:12:19,940 THE 673 00:12:19,940 --> 00:12:20,574 CHICAGO AREA, 674 00:12:20,574 --> 00:12:22,075 THE BLACK COMMUNITY, AND 675 00:12:22,075 --> 00:12:23,977 REPRESENT THEM WELL. 676 00:12:23,977 --> 00:12:24,845 YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER 677 00:12:24,845 --> 00:12:25,512 , 678 00:12:25,512 --> 00:12:26,180 LOYOLA 679 00:12:26,180 --> 00:12:27,381 WAS A LITTLE CATHOLIC 680 00:12:27,381 --> 00:12:27,714 SCHOOL 681 00:12:27,714 --> 00:12:28,949 ON THE NOR SIDE OF 682 00:12:28,949 --> 00:12:29,516 CHICAGO 683 00:12:29,516 --> 00:12:30,784 THAT HAD 684 00:12:30,784 --> 00:12:31,485 NO -- ON 685 00:12:31,485 --> 00:12:32,052 THE 686 00:12:32,052 --> 00:12:33,320 NORTHSIDE OF CHICAGO THAT 687 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,388 HAD 688 00:12:34,388 --> 00:12:35,222 NO REAL 689 00:12:35,222 --> 00:12:36,890 NOTORIETY PRIOR TO OUR 690 00:12:36,890 --> 00:12:38,859 SOPHOMORE YEAR 691 00:12:38,859 --> 00:12:39,126 AND 692 00:12:39,126 --> 00:12:40,194 THIS WAS 693 00:12:40,194 --> 00:12:41,628 THE JUNIOR YEAR. 694 00:12:41,628 --> 00:12:42,563 SO WE GO IT 695 00:12:42,563 --> 00:12:43,697 FROM BOTH SIDES. 696 00:12:43,697 --> 00:12:44,631 AGAIN, WE WOULD 697 00:12:44,631 --> 00:12:45,299 SIT AND TALK 698 00:12:45,299 --> 00:12:46,466 ABOUT HOW TO HANDLE IT. 699 00:12:46,466 --> 00:12:48,735 >>YOU WOUND UP BEGIN 700 00:12:48,735 --> 00:12:49,670 -- UP 701 00:12:49,670 --> 00:12:50,637 WINNING THE GAME BY 10 702 00:12:50,637 --> 00:12:51,271 POINTS. 703 00:12:51,271 --> 00:12:52,539 YOU MAKE 704 00:12:52,539 --> 00:12:53,207 YOUR WAY TO THE 705 00:12:53,207 --> 00:12:53,907 FINAL 706 00:12:53,907 --> 00:12:54,374 GAME. 707 00:12:54,374 --> 00:12:55,576 HOW NERVOUS WERE YOU BEFORE 708 00:12:55,576 --> 00:12:56,677 THE FINAL GAME? 709 00:12:56,677 --> 00:12:57,778 >>I 710 00:12:57,778 --> 00:12:58,812 DON'T THINK I WAS TOO 711 00:12:58,812 --> 00:13:03,150 NERVOUS BEFORE THE FINAL GAME. 712 00:13:03,150 --> 00:13:03,584 I'M NOT SAYING 713 00:13:03,584 --> 00:13:04,618 I WASN'T 714 00:13:04,618 --> 00:13:05,853 NERVOUS, BUT I EXPECTED AT 715 00:13:05,853 --> 00:13:06,153 THE 716 00:13:06,153 --> 00:13:07,287 BEGINNING OF THE YEAR 717 00:13:07,287 --> 00:13:07,855 TO BE IN 718 00:13:07,855 --> 00:13:08,922 THAT FINAL GAME. 719 00:13:08,922 --> 00:13:10,190 I WAS NOT 720 00:13:10,190 --> 00:13:10,924 HAVING A 721 00:13:10,924 --> 00:13:11,625 GOOD 722 00:13:11,625 --> 00:13:12,759 RELATIONSHIP AT THAT TIME WITH 723 00:13:12,759 --> 00:13:14,494 COACH IRELAND. 724 00:13:14,494 --> 00:13:15,028 COACH IRELAND 725 00:13:15,028 --> 00:13:16,396 WOULD GET UPSET 726 00:13:16,396 --> 00:13:17,598 WHEN WE WOULD TALK TO THE 727 00:13:17,598 --> 00:13:17,931 PAPERS. 728 00:13:17,931 --> 00:13:19,199 THE NIGHT BEFORE THE GAME WHEN 729 00:13:19,199 --> 00:13:20,601 I WAS INTERVIEWED 730 00:13:20,601 --> 00:13:21,635 , THEY 731 00:13:21,635 --> 00:13:21,935 WERE 732 00:13:21,935 --> 00:13:23,070 SURPRISED WE BEAT 733 00:13:23,070 --> 00:13:23,670 DUKE. 734 00:13:23,670 --> 00:13:24,972 I SAID I GUESS YOU WILL 735 00:13:24,972 --> 00:13:25,606 BE 736 00:13:25,606 --> 00:13:26,673 SITTING HERE TOMORROW NIGHT 737 00:13:26,673 --> 00:13:27,908 SURPRISED THAT WE 738 00:13:27,908 --> 00:13:28,842 BEAT 739 00:13:28,842 --> 00:13:30,277 CINCINNATI. 740 00:13:30,277 --> 00:13:31,178 >>WHAT WERE YOUR 741 00:13:31,178 --> 00:13:31,745 FEELINGS THE 742 00:13:31,745 --> 00:13:32,980 NIGHT BEFORE THE GAME? 743 00:13:32,980 --> 00:13:34,248 >>A LOT OF 744 00:13:34,248 --> 00:13:35,148 ANTICIPATION. 745 00:13:35,148 --> 00:13:36,416 I FELT VERY GOOD ABOUT 746 00:13:36,416 --> 00:13:36,717 OUR 747 00:13:36,717 --> 00:13:37,417 TEAM. 748 00:13:37,417 --> 00:13:38,685 I FELT GOOD ABOUT OUR 749 00:13:38,685 --> 00:13:39,286 STARTING 750 00:13:39,286 --> 00:13:39,586 FIVE. 751 00:13:39,586 --> 00:13:40,587 THEY WERE IRON 752 00:13:40,587 --> 00:13:41,555 MEN. 753 00:13:41,555 --> 00:13:42,756 MY FEAR WAS, THEIR 754 00:13:42,756 --> 00:13:43,757 LEGS HAD 755 00:13:43,757 --> 00:13:44,958 BEEN RUNOFF 756 00:13:44,958 --> 00:13:45,726 BY THE 757 00:13:45,726 --> 00:13:47,094 COACH. 758 00:13:47,094 --> 00:13:47,995 AND THEY WOULDN'T BE 759 00:13:47,995 --> 00:13:48,929 ABLE TO 760 00:13:48,929 --> 00:13:50,864 PERFORM UP TO THEIR 761 00:13:50,864 --> 00:13:51,899 CAPABILITIES. 762 00:13:51,899 --> 00:13:52,332 ALSO 763 00:13:52,332 --> 00:13:53,467 , ALL YEAR LODGE 764 00:13:53,467 --> 00:13:54,234 , 765 00:13:54,234 --> 00:13:54,801 THERE 766 00:13:54,801 --> 00:13:56,069 HAD BEEN THIS -- ALL 767 00:13:56,069 --> 00:13:57,070 YEAR LONG, 768 00:13:57,070 --> 00:13:58,605 THERE HAD BEEN THIS DISCUSSION 769 00:13:58,605 --> 00:13:59,773 OF LOYOLA, 770 00:13:59,773 --> 00:14:00,574 VS. 771 00:14:00,574 --> 00:14:01,175 CINCINNATI. 772 00:14:01,175 --> 00:14:02,309 WOULD IT EVER HAPPEN? 773 00:14:02,309 --> 00:14:05,045 OBVIOUSLY, HERE IT COMES. 774 00:14:05,045 --> 00:14:05,479 I FELT VERY 775 00:14:05,479 --> 00:14:06,513 CONFIDENT THAT THE 776 00:14:06,513 --> 00:14:07,681 TEAM WE WERE PUTTING ON THE 777 00:14:07,681 --> 00:14:09,349 FLOOR WAS GOING TO 778 00:14:09,349 --> 00:14:10,184 REPRESENT 779 00:14:10,184 --> 00:14:10,717 VERY 780 00:14:10,717 --> 00:14:12,386 WELL, THE CHICAGO AREA. 781 00:14:12,386 --> 00:14:13,253 >>ONCE AGAIN, 782 00:14:13,253 --> 00:14:14,254 LET'S LOOK AT A 783 00:14:14,254 --> 00:14:16,190 PIECE OF OUR 784 00:14:16,190 --> 00:14:16,957 2003 785 00:14:16,957 --> 00:14:17,357 DOCUMENTARY 786 00:14:17,357 --> 00:14:18,258 ABOUT THE TEAM. 787 00:14:18,258 --> 00:14:19,760 HERE'S THE DESCRIPTION OF THE 788 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:20,928 FINAL GAME WINNING PLAY. 789 00:14:20,928 --> 00:14:21,328 >> 790 00:14:21,328 --> 00:14:22,496 >>ANNOUNCER: 15 SECONDS OUT 791 00:14:22,496 --> 00:14:23,330 TO 792 00:14:23,330 --> 00:14:24,765 EGAN THEY WILL GIVE IT TO 793 00:14:24,765 --> 00:14:27,134 HARKNESS WHEN IT IS TIME. 794 00:14:27,134 --> 00:14:28,302 >>THE BALL WENT TO HARKNESS 795 00:14:28,302 --> 00:14:30,137 GOING UP FOR A SHOT, 796 00:14:30,137 --> 00:14:30,804 DEFENDED 797 00:14:30,804 --> 00:14:31,071 . 798 00:14:31,071 --> 00:14:31,705 >> 799 00:14:31,705 --> 00:14:32,639 >>ANNOUNCER: THERE HE GOES. 800 00:14:32,639 --> 00:14:33,941 >>I GO UP AND I COULD 801 00:14:33,941 --> 00:14:34,241 STILL 802 00:14:34,241 --> 00:14:35,108 FEEL -- 803 00:14:35,108 --> 00:14:36,510 HE TIPS THE BALL A 804 00:14:36,510 --> 00:14:38,378 LITTLE, I COULD STILL FEEL IT. 805 00:14:38,378 --> 00:14:39,947 I DIDN'T FEEL RIGHT. 806 00:14:39,947 --> 00:14:41,748 I WANT TO SHOOT. 807 00:14:41,748 --> 00:14:42,249 I 808 00:14:42,249 --> 00:14:43,350 REALLY DIDN'T FEEL IT 809 00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:43,984 , HE 810 00:14:43,984 --> 00:14:45,252 TIPPED IT AND I DIDN'T FEEL 811 00:14:45,252 --> 00:14:45,853 IT, 812 00:14:45,853 --> 00:14:47,754 MY CONCENTRATION 813 00:14:47,754 --> 00:14:48,355 WAS LOST A 814 00:14:48,355 --> 00:14:48,722 LITTLE. 815 00:14:48,722 --> 00:14:49,790 IN THE CORNER OF 816 00:14:49,790 --> 00:14:51,158 MY EYE I SEE 817 00:14:51,158 --> 00:14:52,392 HUNTER AND I FLIP IT TO 818 00:14:52,392 --> 00:14:53,527 HUNTER. 819 00:14:53,527 --> 00:14:55,395 >>ANNOUNCER: HE PASSES OUT TO 820 00:14:55,395 --> 00:14:55,929 HUNTER, HUNTER 821 00:14:55,929 --> 00:14:57,231 SHOOTS. 822 00:14:57,231 --> 00:14:58,165 >>I PUT UP A 823 00:14:58,165 --> 00:14:59,566 JUMP SHOT, IF WE 824 00:14:59,566 --> 00:15:00,367 DID MISS WE HAD 825 00:15:00,367 --> 00:15:01,768 TIME TO TIP IT 826 00:15:01,768 --> 00:15:03,203 IN. 827 00:15:03,203 --> 00:15:03,270 I 828 00:15:03,270 --> 00:15:04,538 THOUGHT IT WAS GOING 829 00:15:04,538 --> 00:15:06,139 IN. 830 00:15:06,139 --> 00:15:06,607 I 831 00:15:06,607 --> 00:15:07,741 SAW 832 00:15:07,741 --> 00:15:08,108 VIC 833 00:15:08,108 --> 00:15:09,943 POSITION HIMSELF IN 834 00:15:09,943 --> 00:15:10,377 FRONT 835 00:15:10,377 --> 00:15:11,078 AND 836 00:15:11,078 --> 00:15:12,546 TIPPED IT IN. 837 00:15:12,546 --> 00:15:13,614 PERFECT TIMING. 838 00:15:13,614 --> 00:15:15,148 >>ANNOUNCER: OFF THE RIM, 839 00:15:15,148 --> 00:15:16,250 SCORES, IT IS OVER! 840 00:15:16,250 --> 00:15:17,384 IT IS OVER! 841 00:15:17,384 --> 00:15:18,485 WE WON! 842 00:15:18,485 --> 00:15:19,286 WE WON! 843 00:15:19,286 --> 00:15:20,354 WE WON! 844 00:15:20,354 --> 00:15:21,622 WE WON THE 845 00:15:21,622 --> 00:15:22,523 BALLGAME! 846 00:15:22,523 --> 00:15:23,156 WE WON THE 847 00:15:23,156 --> 00:15:24,157 &ñ BALLGAME 848 00:15:24,157 --> 00:15:25,792 ! 849 00:15:25,792 --> 00:15:27,060 LOYOLA WON THE 850 00:15:27,060 --> 00:15:28,328 BALLGAME! 851 00:15:28,328 --> 00:15:28,862 >> 852 00:15:28,862 --> 00:15:29,563 RICH 853 00:15:29,563 --> 00:15:30,597 , WHAT GOES 854 00:15:30,597 --> 00:15:31,198 THROUGH 855 00:15:31,198 --> 00:15:32,332 YOUR MIND WHEN YOU LOOK AT 856 00:15:32,332 --> 00:15:34,234 THAT VIDEO? 857 00:15:34,234 --> 00:15:35,002 >> 858 00:15:35,002 --> 00:15:35,936 HE LAY SHUN. 859 00:15:35,936 --> 00:15:37,137 >>EVEN NOW? 860 00:15:37,137 --> 00:15:38,038 >>IT -- 861 00:15:38,038 --> 00:15:39,072 ELATION. 862 00:15:39,072 --> 00:15:39,506 >>EVEN NOW? 863 00:15:39,506 --> 00:15:40,841 >>IT WAS A WONDERFUL 864 00:15:40,841 --> 00:15:42,109 TIME 865 00:15:42,109 --> 00:15:43,443 . 866 00:15:43,443 --> 00:15:44,678 EVEN TODAY, 867 00:15:44,678 --> 00:15:45,012 EVERY 868 00:15:45,012 --> 00:15:45,546 YOUNG 869 00:15:45,546 --> 00:15:47,848 BASKETBALL PLAYER WANTS TO BE. 870 00:15:47,848 --> 00:15:49,082 THE IDEA OF THE FINAL 871 00:15:49,082 --> 00:15:50,017 FOUR, 872 00:15:50,017 --> 00:15:52,986 THE IDEA 873 00:15:52,986 --> 00:15:54,021 OF 874 00:15:54,021 --> 00:15:55,389 BEING 875 00:15:55,389 --> 00:15:55,756 INVOLVED 876 00:15:55,756 --> 00:15:56,723 WITH A 877 00:15:56,723 --> 00:15:58,091 CHAMPIONSHIP, A 878 00:15:58,091 --> 00:15:59,293 NATIONAL 879 00:15:59,293 --> 00:16:00,093 CHAMPIONSHIP 880 00:16:00,093 --> 00:16:01,061 , 881 00:16:01,061 --> 00:16:01,361 IT 882 00:16:01,361 --> 00:16:02,362 IS 883 00:16:02,362 --> 00:16:03,797 STILL EXCITING. 884 00:16:03,797 --> 00:16:04,698 I'M STILL ELATED 885 00:16:04,698 --> 00:16:05,666 WHEN I LOOK 886 00:16:05,666 --> 00:16:06,433 AT IT. 887 00:16:06,433 --> 00:16:07,634 I BREAK INTO BIG 888 00:16:07,634 --> 00:16:08,769 GRINS WHEN I 889 00:16:08,769 --> 00:16:10,337 SEE IT. 890 00:16:10,337 --> 00:16:11,171 AND I 891 00:16:11,171 --> 00:16:12,506 APPRECIATE THAT STARTING 892 00:16:12,506 --> 00:16:13,340 FIVE AND ALL OF THE 893 00:16:13,340 --> 00:16:14,308 HARD WORK 894 00:16:14,308 --> 00:16:15,876 THEY PUT IN FOR IT. 895 00:16:15,876 --> 00:16:16,677 THAT'S WHERE I AM. 896 00:16:16,677 --> 00:16:18,345 I STILL 897 00:16:18,345 --> 00:16:19,213 ENJOY THE 898 00:16:19,213 --> 00:16:20,547 MOMENT. 899 00:16:20,547 --> 00:16:21,481 >>JOHN EGAN 900 00:16:21,481 --> 00:16:22,416 WHAT GUESS 901 00:16:22,416 --> 00:16:23,550 THROUGH YOUR MIND WHEN YOU SEE 902 00:16:23,550 --> 00:16:24,785 THAT? 903 00:16:24,785 --> 00:16:25,452 -- 904 00:16:25,452 --> 00:16:26,753 >>I'M ALSO 905 00:16:26,753 --> 00:16:27,788 ELATED THAT WE 906 00:16:27,788 --> 00:16:28,922 WON. 907 00:16:28,922 --> 00:16:29,890 DURING THE PROCESS OF THE 908 00:16:29,890 --> 00:16:30,424 GAME, 909 00:16:30,424 --> 00:16:33,460 I WAS EMBARRASSED THAT 910 00:16:33,460 --> 00:16:34,027 -- AT 911 00:16:34,027 --> 00:16:35,495 OUR PERFORMANCE EARLY. 912 00:16:35,495 --> 00:16:36,763 I THOUGHT FOR THE REST OF 913 00:16:36,763 --> 00:16:37,097 MY 914 00:16:37,097 --> 00:16:38,398 LIFE YOU ARE GOING TO 915 00:16:38,398 --> 00:16:38,732 SAY YOU 916 00:16:38,732 --> 00:16:39,900 HAD THE BIG CHANCE 917 00:16:39,900 --> 00:16:40,534 AND BLOW IT 918 00:16:40,534 --> 00:16:41,735 AND YOU DON'T LOOK 919 00:16:41,735 --> 00:16:42,035 GOOD 920 00:16:42,035 --> 00:16:42,769 BLOWING IT. 921 00:16:42,769 --> 00:16:44,705 >>WERE YOU DOWN BY 15. 922 00:16:44,705 --> 00:16:45,138 >>DOWN BY 923 00:16:45,138 --> 00:16:46,139 15. 924 00:16:46,139 --> 00:16:48,041 THEN WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO 925 00:16:48,041 --> 00:16:48,375 WIN IT. 926 00:16:48,375 --> 00:16:49,276 ONE OF 927 00:16:49,276 --> 00:16:50,544 RELAXATION MORE THAN 928 00:16:50,544 --> 00:16:51,311 ANYTHING ELSE. 929 00:16:51,311 --> 00:16:52,513 I SAID WE WERE LUCKY 930 00:16:52,513 --> 00:16:52,880 TO WIN 931 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:53,514 THAT GAME. 932 00:16:53,514 --> 00:16:54,715 >>THAT GAME, SOME 933 00:16:54,715 --> 00:16:55,749 PEOPLE HAVE 934 00:16:55,749 --> 00:16:57,050 RATED IT AS THE MOST 935 00:16:57,050 --> 00:16:57,618 EXCITING 936 00:16:57,618 --> 00:16:58,886 MOMENT IN NCAA 937 00:16:58,886 --> 00:16:59,520 HISTORY. 938 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,388 THE TEAM IS GOING TO BE 939 00:17:01,388 --> 00:17:02,322 INDUCTED IN THE 940 00:17:02,322 --> 00:17:03,290 NATIONAL HALL 941 00:17:03,290 --> 00:17:04,825 OF FAME, HUGE DEAL. 942 00:17:04,825 --> 00:17:05,726 MIKE LENAHAN, WHAT 943 00:17:05,726 --> 00:17:07,160 ARE THE 944 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,529 LESSONS 945 00:17:08,529 --> 00:17:09,530 ? 946 00:17:09,530 --> 00:17:10,330 >>TO ME, THE 947 00:17:10,330 --> 00:17:11,431 BIG LESSON 948 00:17:11,431 --> 00:17:12,466 IS 949 00:17:12,466 --> 00:17:13,333 THAT THE 950 00:17:13,333 --> 00:17:14,334 REASON 951 00:17:14,334 --> 00:17:15,068 THAT 952 00:17:15,068 --> 00:17:16,370 SPORTS IS 953 00:17:16,370 --> 00:17:16,837 SO 954 00:17:16,837 --> 00:17:18,038 OFTEN IN THE 955 00:17:18,038 --> 00:17:18,972 VANGUARD OF 956 00:17:18,972 --> 00:17:21,308 SOCIAL CHANGE 957 00:17:21,308 --> 00:17:22,075 , 958 00:17:22,075 --> 00:17:23,677 IS 959 00:17:23,677 --> 00:17:24,278 THAT IT IS 960 00:17:24,278 --> 00:17:25,179 HARD FOR 961 00:17:25,179 --> 00:17:26,280 EXAMPLE, TO 962 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:27,681 BE A 963 00:17:27,681 --> 00:17:28,982 PREJUDICED BASKETBALL PLAYER. 964 00:17:28,982 --> 00:17:29,883 IF YOU ARE SERIOUS 965 00:17:29,883 --> 00:17:30,617 ABOUT 966 00:17:30,617 --> 00:17:30,918 YOUR 967 00:17:30,918 --> 00:17:32,719 BASKETBALL, YOU ARE LOOKING AT 968 00:17:32,719 --> 00:17:33,253 YOUR 969 00:17:33,253 --> 00:17:34,922 OPPONENT, YOU BETTER NOT 970 00:17:34,922 --> 00:17:36,290 BE SAYING, WAS 971 00:17:36,290 --> 00:17:37,191 HIS FATHER A 972 00:17:37,191 --> 00:17:37,858 SLAVE OR A 973 00:17:37,858 --> 00:17:38,825 PLANTATION OWNER? 974 00:17:38,825 --> 00:17:40,294 DOES HE COME FROM THE RIGHT 975 00:17:40,294 --> 00:17:41,528 SIDE OF THE TRACKS 976 00:17:41,528 --> 00:17:42,196 OR WRONG 977 00:17:42,196 --> 00:17:43,297 SIDE OF THE TRACKS? 978 00:17:43,297 --> 00:17:44,798 YOU BETTER BE SAYING WHAT CAN 979 00:17:44,798 --> 00:17:45,699 THIS GUY 980 00:17:45,699 --> 00:17:46,633 DO? 981 00:17:46,633 --> 00:17:48,769 HOW CAN I BEAT HIM? 982 00:17:48,769 --> 00:17:50,571 BECAUSE BASKETBALL PLAYERS ARE 983 00:17:50,571 --> 00:17:51,338 AN CUSTOMED TO DEALING WITH 984 00:17:51,338 --> 00:17:53,006 EACH OTHER IN TERMS LIKE THAT, 985 00:17:53,006 --> 00:17:53,807 I -- I 986 00:17:53,807 --> 00:17:55,242 THINK THEY CAN BE A 987 00:17:55,242 --> 00:17:56,410 LITTLE QUICKER TO DEVELOP 988 00:17:56,410 --> 00:17:57,344 THE 989 00:17:57,344 --> 00:17:59,179 EMPATHY AND UNDERSTANDING THAT 990 00:17:59,179 --> 00:18:00,314 COMES A LITTLE HARDER TO THE 991 00:18:00,314 --> 00:18:01,481 REST OF US. 992 00:18:01,481 --> 00:18:02,950 >>THAT'S WHERE I HAVE TO 993 00:18:02,950 --> 00:18:03,383 LEAVE. 994 00:18:03,383 --> 00:18:04,618 JOHN, RICH, MICHAEL, 995 00:18:04,618 --> 00:18:05,185 THANK YOU 996 00:18:05,185 --> 00:18:06,720 FOR BEING HERE. 997 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:07,221 CONGRATULATIONS. 998 00:18:07,221 --> 00:18:08,388 I KNOW YOU ARE GETTING 999 00:18:08,388 --> 00:18:08,989 TONS OF 1000 00:18:08,989 --> 00:18:10,257 ACCLAIM, ALL WELL 1001 00:18:10,257 --> 00:18:11,391 DESERVED. 1002 00:18:11,391 --> 00:18:12,860 GREAT BOOK. 1003 00:18:12,860 --> 00:18:13,393 >>>MICHAEL 1004 00:18:13,393 --> 00:18:14,394 LENEHAN'S BOOK 1005 00:18:14,394 --> 00:18:15,362 IS 1006 00:18:15,362 --> 00:18:17,331 RAMBLERS LOYOLA CHICAGO 1007 00:18:17,331 --> 00:18:17,865 1963, 1008 00:18:17,865 --> 00:18:21,235 THE TEAM THAT CHANGED THE 1009 00:18:21,235 --> 00:18:21,668 COLOR OF 1010 00:18:21,668 --> 00:18:24,171 COLLEGE BASKETBALL 1011 00:18:24,171 --> 00:18:25,205 . 1012 00:18:25,205 --> 00:18:26,773 YOU WILL FIND AN EXCERPT FROM 1013 00:18:26,773 --> 00:18:28,075 THE BOOK ON OUR WEBSITE, 1014 00:18:28,075 --> 00:18:28,642 THE 1015 00:18:28,642 --> 00:18:29,843 FINAL MINUTE OF THE 1016 00:18:29,843 --> 00:18:31,111 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME OUR 1017 00:18:31,111 --> 00:18:32,145 2003 1018 00:18:32,145 --> 00:18:33,313 DOCUMENTARY AND COMMENTS 1019 00:18:33,313 --> 00:18:34,281 FROM 1020 00:18:34,281 --> 00:18:38,281 JERRY HARKNESS.