WEBVTT 00:08.033 --> 00:13.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% TO YOU. 00:08.166 --> 00:13.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% >> Phil: THANK YOU AMANDA. 00:08.833 --> 00:14.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% NOW, OVER TO EDDIE ARRUZA WITH 00:13.033 --> 00:15.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% A LEGAL VIEW OF TODAY'S 00:13.966 --> 00:19.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% VERDICT. 00:14.700 --> 00:20.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> Eddie: IT TOOK THE JURY IN 00:15.400 --> 00:21.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THE VAN DYKE CASE TO TAKE SEVEN 00:19.233 --> 00:22.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% HOURS TO REACH IT'S VERDICT. 00:20.333 --> 00:22.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% AS WE HEARD, THE JURORS WHO 00:21.233 --> 00:25.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SPOKE TO THE MEDIA AFTER FOUND 00:22.233 --> 00:25.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% VAN DYKE'S TESTIMONY ON THE 00:22.933 --> 00:28.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% WITNESS STAND REHEARSED AND 00:25.033 --> 00:29.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% HARD TO ACCEPT. 00:25.766 --> 00:33.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% ESPECIALLY AFTER WHAT ONE JUROR 00:28.266 --> 00:34.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SAID WAS MANY, MANY FEELINGS OF 00:29.933 --> 00:36.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% THAT NOW INFAMOUS DASHCAM 00:33.400 --> 00:40.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% VIDEO, SHOWING LAQUAN McDONALD 00:34.500 --> 00:41.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% BEING SHOT 16 TIMES. 00:36.966 --> 00:43.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% >> WE THE JURY FIND THE 00:40.200 --> 00:48.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% DEFENDANT, JASON VAN DYKE, 00:41.266 --> 00:49.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% GUILTY OF SECOND-DEGREE MURDER. 00:43.366 --> 00:50.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WE THE JURY FIND THE DEFENDANT, 00:48.966 --> 00:51.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% JASON VAN DYKE, GUILTY OF 00:49.933 --> 00:52.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% AGGRAVATED BATTERY WITH A 00:50.733 --> 00:56.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% FIREARM, FIRST SHOT. 00:51.333 --> 00:57.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WE THE JURY FIND THE DEFENDANT 00:52.866 --> 01:01.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% JASON VAN DYKE GUILTY OF 00:56.333 --> 01:02.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% AGGRAVATED BATTERY WITH A 00:57.366 --> 01:04.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% FIREARM, SECOND SHOT. 01:01.900 --> 01:05.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% >> Eddie: JASON VAN DYKE 01:02.900 --> 01:06.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% REMAINED EXPRESSIONLESS AS ONE 01:04.000 --> 01:07.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% GUILTY VERDICT AFTER ANOTHER 01:05.000 --> 01:08.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WAS READ TONIGHT, WITH HIS BILL 01:06.833 --> 01:10.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% REVOKED, HE IS IN JAIL, A 01:07.866 --> 01:13.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% CONVICTED FELON. 01:08.333 --> 01:20.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >>> JOINING US WITH THE LEGAL 01:10.333 --> 01:21.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% ANALYSIS OF THE JURY'S DECISION 01:13.600 --> 01:21.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IS RICHARD KLING, CHICAGO-KENT 01:20.100 --> 01:22.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% COLLEGE OF LAW AND A DEFENSE 01:21.266 --> 01:25.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% ATTORNEY.HE REGULARLY GIVES 01:21.966 --> 01:26.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% LECTURES TO LAWYERS ON THE 01:22.633 --> 01:28.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% ILLINOIS RULE OF EVIDENCE. 01:25.300 --> 01:29.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% NANCY MARDER IS A PROFESSOR AT 01:26.666 --> 01:33.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% CHICAGO-KENT COLLEGE OF LAW WHO 01:28.066 --> 01:34.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE JUSTICE 01:29.233 --> 01:35.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% JOHN PAUL JURY CENTER. 01:33.666 --> 01:37.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% SHE HAS WRITTEN AND TAUGHT 01:34.766 --> 01:37.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% EXTENSIVELY ABOUT JUROR 01:35.533 --> 01:40.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% QUESTIONS, AND JURY 01:37.166 --> 01:41.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% DELIBERATIONS. 01:37.866 --> 01:43.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AND, SHARONE MITCHELL, ILLINOIS 01:40.033 --> 01:45.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% JUSTICE DEPARTMENT PROJECT THAT 01:41.966 --> 01:47.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SHE RECENTLY SERVED AS A TRIAL 01:43.566 --> 01:48.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% ATTORNEY IN THE COOK COUNTY 01:45.366 --> 01:49.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% COURT OFFICE. 01:47.100 --> 01:49.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% TAKE YOU ALL FOR BEING WITH US 01:48.233 --> 01:52.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% TONIGHT. 01:49.000 --> 01:52.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% LET ME JUST ASK A QUICK 01:49.633 --> 01:53.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% QUESTION AND WERE ANY OF YOU 01:52.033 --> 01:58.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% SURPRISED BY ANY OF THE 01:52.866 --> 01:59.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% VERDICTS TODAY? 01:53.500 --> 02:01.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% >> NO. 01:58.166 --> 02:02.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> Eddie: ANY SURPRISES AT ALL? 01:59.700 --> 02:07.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% SHOCKING REVELATIONS? 02:01.733 --> 02:11.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% >> Guest: NO. 02:02.833 --> 02:13.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> Eddie: MATT MASTERSON DID A 02:07.600 --> 02:14.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% GREAT JOB AT LAYING IT ALL UP 02:11.466 --> 02:14.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% BUT THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE 02:13.266 --> 02:16.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% CONVICTION TODAY, SECOND-DEGREE 02:14.000 --> 02:17.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% MURDER AND THEN ALL OF THOSE 02:14.700 --> 02:20.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% ASSAULT CHARGES. 02:16.466 --> 02:21.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% TELUS, THE DEGREE OF 02:17.433 --> 02:22.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% SERIOUSNESS THERE. 02:20.100 --> 02:24.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> Guest: AS STRANGE AS IT 02:21.133 --> 02:25.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SOUNDS, THE AGGRAVATED BATTERY 02:22.133 --> 02:26.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WITH A FIREARM IS MORE SERIOUS 02:24.266 --> 02:27.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% THAN SECOND-DEGREE MURDER. 02:25.466 --> 02:29.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% AGGRAVATED BATTERY WITH A 02:26.266 --> 02:29.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% FIREARM IS PUNISHABLE WITH NOT 02:27.966 --> 02:33.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% LESS THAN SIX YEARS AND NO MORE 02:29.233 --> 02:35.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% THAN 30. 02:29.866 --> 02:35.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% IT IS NOT FISSIONABLE. 02:33.933 --> 02:40.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> Eddie: A MINIMUM OF 6 FOR 02:35.033 --> 02:42.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% EACH COUNT? 02:35.633 --> 02:42.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> Guest: YES WITH 80 PERCENT 02:40.800 --> 02:47.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% SERVICE. 02:42.033 --> 02:48.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SECOND-DEGREE MURDER IS 4 TO 20 02:42.766 --> 02:49.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% IN THE PENITENTIARY BUT IT IS 02:47.333 --> 02:50.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% PROBATIONAL. 02:48.100 --> 02:51.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THE BOTTOM LINE IS AGGRAVATED 02:49.566 --> 02:52.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% BATTERY WITH A FIREARM IS MORE 02:50.300 --> 02:53.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% SERIOUS THAN IT SECOND-DEGREE 02:51.900 --> 02:54.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% MURDER. 02:52.466 --> 02:55.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% HAVING DONE RESEARCH IN THE LAW 02:53.233 --> 02:56.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% AND THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, 02:54.166 --> 02:59.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WHAT WILL PROBABLY HAPPEN AS A 02:55.433 --> 03:00.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% COUPLE OF THINGS. 02:56.033 --> 03:01.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% NO. 1 BECAUSE THE AGGRAVATED 02:59.500 --> 03:02.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% BATTERY IS MORE SERIOUS THAN 03:00.533 --> 03:03.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THE SECOND-DEGREE MURDER, THE 03:01.733 --> 03:05.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% SECOND-DEGREE MURDER WILL 03:02.666 --> 03:11.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% PROBABLY MERGE INTO THE 03:03.433 --> 03:12.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AGGRAVATED BATTERY AND THE LESS 03:05.800 --> 03:13.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% SERIOUS INTO THE MORE SERIES. 03:11.600 --> 03:15.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AND THEN SECONDLY, A QUESTION 03:12.833 --> 03:15.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WEATHER THEY SHOULD BE SERVED 03:13.933 --> 03:17.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% CONSECUTIVELY OR CONCURRENTLY 03:15.100 --> 03:20.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% HEAR THEIR IS A BODY OF LAW 03:15.800 --> 03:21.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% THAT IF YOU GO BANG, BANG, 03:17.466 --> 03:24.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BANG, BANG, RIGHT IN A ROW THAT 03:20.666 --> 03:24.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% IS ONE ACT, ONE OFFENSE, ONE 03:21.800 --> 03:25.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% OFFENSE WHICH WOULD NOT BE 03:24.166 --> 03:26.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% CONSECUTIVE. 03:24.933 --> 03:27.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> Eddie: THERE IS SOME DOUBT 03:25.700 --> 03:28.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AS PROFESSOR KLING WAS SAYING 03:26.933 --> 03:33.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% IN THE LEGAL COMMUNITY AS TO 03:27.866 --> 03:33.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WEATHER IT SHOULD BE SERVED ONE 03:28.833 --> 03:35.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ACT OR 16 SEPARATE OXFORD WHY 03:33.200 --> 03:38.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% SUN-TABULOUS? 03:33.933 --> 03:39.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% >> Guest: THE LAW. 03:35.666 --> 03:40.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THERE ISN'T CLEAR LAW ON THE 03:38.633 --> 03:41.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% ISSUE. 03:39.133 --> 03:42.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THERE IS A MULTIPLE STRANDS OF 03:40.133 --> 03:44.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% LAW AND THERE ARE LOTS OF 03:41.433 --> 03:48.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% PETITIONERS THAT ARE GOING BACK 03:42.600 --> 03:50.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% AND FORTH IN THIS QUESTION. 03:44.633 --> 03:51.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% >> Eddie: NANCY MARDER IS 03:48.600 --> 03:56.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% SOMEONE WHO IS VERY FAMILIAR 03:50.800 --> 03:57.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% WITH JURY INSTRUCTIONS. 03:51.800 --> 03:58.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% WHAT WAS SIGNIFICANT AT THE 03:56.866 --> 03:59.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% LAST MINUTE. 03:57.500 --> 03:59.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% THE JUDGE GIVING THEM THE 03:58.333 --> 04:01.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% OPTION OF SECOND-DEGREE MURDER? 03:59.100 --> 04:04.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> Guest: I THINK IT WAS SO 03:59.866 --> 04:07.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% THAT THEY COULD REACH AN 04:01.833 --> 04:08.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% ACCOMMODATION, A VERDICT AND 04:04.600 --> 04:09.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THAT THEY ALL COULD AGREE ON. 04:07.900 --> 04:10.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% >> Eddie: DO BELIEVE THAT 04:08.933 --> 04:12.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% FIRST-DEGREE MURDER WAS 04:09.700 --> 04:13.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD NOT 04:10.566 --> 04:15.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AGREE ON IF THAT WAS THEIR ONLY 04:12.900 --> 04:15.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% OPTION? 04:13.466 --> 04:16.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% >> Guest: THERE IS A 04:15.000 --> 04:22.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% POSSIBILITY. 04:15.666 --> 04:23.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% YOU WANT TO COME TO SOMETHING 04:16.500 --> 04:23.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% THAT IS MORE WITHIN. 04:22.066 --> 04:25.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> Eddie: WHEN THEY STARTED THE 04:23.133 --> 04:26.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% DELIBERATIONS, THE JURORS WHO 04:23.966 --> 04:26.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SPOKE OUT TODAY SAID THAT SEVEN 04:25.100 --> 04:33.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% IMMEDIATELY SAID THAT THEY WERE 04:26.133 --> 04:34.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% READY TO CONVICT. 04:26.733 --> 04:34.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% TO WERE SAYING NOT GUILTY AND 04:33.600 --> 04:35.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% THEN THREE OTHERS WERE 04:34.433 --> 04:36.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% UNDECIDED. 04:34.933 --> 04:38.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% AGAIN, IS THE SECOND-DEGREE 04:35.800 --> 04:39.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% MURDER CHARGE THAT OPTION WHAT 04:36.966 --> 04:40.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER DO YOU 04:38.633 --> 04:41.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% BELIEVE? 04:39.166 --> 04:48.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> Guest: A COUPLE OF THINGS. 04:40.000 --> 04:49.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SECOND-DEGREE MURDER, YOU HAVE 04:41.000 --> 04:49.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% TO PROVE 1ST DEGREE MURDER AND 04:48.266 --> 04:50.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THEN THE DEFENSE HAD TO PROVE 04:49.000 --> 04:51.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES, IN 04:49.700 --> 04:51.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% THIS CASE, SELF-DEFENSE. 04:50.400 --> 04:53.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% SECONDLY, THE LAW OF ILLINOIS 04:51.333 --> 04:54.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% IS QUITE RARE. 04:51.966 --> 04:55.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IF THERE'S ANY EVIDENCE OF 2ND 04:53.700 --> 05:04.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% DEGREE MURDER AND SELF-DEFENSE 04:54.766 --> 05:05.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AND THE DEFENSE REQUESTED IT, 04:55.800 --> 05:06.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% THE JUDGE HAD NO CHOICE. 05:04.233 --> 05:06.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% PRESUMABLY THE DEFENSE 05:05.233 --> 05:07.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% REQUESTED THAT THE JURY BE 05:06.000 --> 05:08.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% INSTRUCTED ON SECOND-DEGREE 05:06.900 --> 05:08.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% MURDER. 05:07.600 --> 05:09.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% IF THAT IS THE CASE THAT IS THE 05:08.366 --> 05:09.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% CASE. 05:08.666 --> 05:10.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS AN 05:09.366 --> 05:11.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% ACCOMMODATION. 05:09.800 --> 05:12.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% IF I WAS A DEFENSE LAWYER, I 05:10.566 --> 05:13.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% WOULD BE WRITTEN BY 05:11.133 --> 05:13.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SECOND-DEGREE MURDER BECAUSE I 05:12.300 --> 05:14.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% WOULD SEE IT AS A COMPROMISE 05:13.300 --> 05:16.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, 05:13.900 --> 05:17.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% FIRST-DEGREE MURDER WOULD 05:14.533 --> 05:18.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% REQUIRE A MANDATORY MINIMUM OF 05:16.266 --> 05:18.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% 45 YEARS IN THE PENITENTIARY. 05:17.300 --> 05:23.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THAT IS A LOT OF TIME TO GAMBLE 05:18.366 --> 05:24.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% AWAY. 05:18.833 --> 05:25.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> Eddie: SHARONE MITCHELL, ONE 05:23.666 --> 05:26.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% OF THE THINGS I SAID TODAY IS 05:24.500 --> 05:27.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% THAT THEY FOUND JASON VAN 05:25.266 --> 05:28.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% DYKE'S TESTIMONY ON THE STAND 05:26.266 --> 05:29.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% TO BE REHEARSED. 05:27.800 --> 05:30.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% OBVIOUSLY ANYONE WHO TAKES THE 05:28.966 --> 05:34.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% STAND IN THEIR OWN DEFENSE 05:29.633 --> 05:35.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ESPECIALLY FOR A MURDER CHARGE 05:30.700 --> 05:36.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% IS REHEARSED BY THE DEFENSE 05:34.633 --> 05:38.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% ATTORNEYS. 05:35.333 --> 05:42.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WHY DID THE DEFENSE ATTORNEYS 05:36.100 --> 05:42.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IN THE CASE SEE THAT JASON VAN 05:38.366 --> 05:43.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% DYKE MIGHT NOT COME OFF AS 05:42.000 --> 05:44.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% CREDIBLE? 05:42.500 --> 05:46.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% >> Guest: IT IS DIFFICULT. 05:43.600 --> 05:47.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% AT TIME HE REMEMBERED THINGS 05:44.933 --> 05:48.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% VERY VIVIDLY. 05:46.033 --> 05:54.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% AT OTHER TIMES HE DID NOT 05:47.000 --> 05:54.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% REMEMBER THINGS VIVIDLY. 05:48.633 --> 05:55.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% I THINK JURORS WANT CONSISTENCY 05:54.400 --> 05:58.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% AND HONESTY. 05:54.900 --> 06:03.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% I BELIEVE THAT IN THIS CASE, 05:55.766 --> 06:04.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THE JURY DID NOT SEE A PERSON 05:58.100 --> 06:05.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% TELLING THE STREET AND COMPLETE 06:03.266 --> 06:06.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% TRUTH AND THERE WERE A LOT OF 06:04.433 --> 06:07.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT VERSION OF 06:05.633 --> 06:11.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THE STORY WAS TOLD, WEATHER IT 06:06.366 --> 06:12.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% WAS AN EXPERT OR OFFICERS 06:07.233 --> 06:12.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% DURING THE SCENE ON THE SCENE 06:11.100 --> 06:20.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% THE DAY OF THE INCIDENT. 06:12.200 --> 06:21.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% YOU HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT. 06:12.866 --> 06:21.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> Eddie: DO YOU THINK THAT'S 06:20.766 --> 06:22.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% WHERE THEY LOST WHEN HE TOOK 06:21.466 --> 06:23.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% THE STAND? 06:21.866 --> 06:23.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> Guest: I THINK IT WAS A VERY 06:22.633 --> 06:31.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% POWERFUL VISUAL. 06:23.133 --> 06:32.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% THE DASH CAM VIDEO. 06:23.666 --> 06:33.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WHILE VIDEOS CAN BE INTERPRETED 06:31.433 --> 06:34.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% IN DIFFERENT WAYS, WHEN YOU CAN 06:32.633 --> 06:35.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% LOOK AT SOMETHING AND SEE IT 06:33.466 --> 06:35.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% FOR YOURSELF, IT CAN BE VERY 06:34.400 --> 06:39.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% POWERFUL. 06:35.000 --> 06:39.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AS YOU LOOK AT IT OVER AND OVER 06:35.766 --> 06:40.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AGAIN, IT IS REALLY HARD TO SEE 06:39.133 --> 06:41.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% THAT. 06:39.633 --> 06:41.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> Eddie: THEY LOOKED AT IT IN 06:40.500 --> 06:45.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THEIR WORDS, MANY, MANY, MANY 06:41.400 --> 06:46.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% TIMES. 06:41.900 --> 06:47.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DO YOU THINK THERE WAS EVER ANY 06:45.566 --> 06:48.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% TESTIMONY THAT THEY COULD HAVE 06:46.600 --> 06:49.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% PRESENTED THAT WOULD HAVE 06:47.566 --> 06:52.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% OVERCOME THAT VISUAL? 06:48.266 --> 06:53.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> Guest: I AM HARD-PRESSED TO 06:49.233 --> 06:53.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% THINK OF ANY. 06:52.033 --> 06:54.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> Eddie: DO YOU THINK THAT WAS 06:53.266 --> 06:55.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% A GIVEN? 06:53.966 --> 06:56.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> Guest: IT WAS VERY POWERFUL. 06:54.700 --> 06:59.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> Eddie: THE JURORS THAT SPOKE 06:55.833 --> 07:00.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% OUT TODAY SOUNDED VERY 06:56.433 --> 07:03.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% CONFIDENT IN THEIR DECISION. 06:59.333 --> 07:04.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THEY SAID THAT THEY LISTENED 07:00.600 --> 07:06.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% CAREFULLY HERE THEY SAID THAT 07:03.066 --> 07:09.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THEY DIDN'T SOUND LIKE THEY 07:04.133 --> 07:10.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WERE FORCED INTO ANY DECISION. 07:06.366 --> 07:11.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% JASON VAN DYKE'S OF ORDERS AND 07:09.200 --> 07:14.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% I THINK WE WILL HEAR FROM ONE 07:10.266 --> 07:15.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% OF THEM AND JUST A LITTLE BIT 07:11.133 --> 07:17.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT THERE IS 07:14.066 --> 07:20.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THE FERGUSON EFFECT IN PLAY 07:15.100 --> 07:21.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% HERE MEANING THE MISSOURI CASE 07:17.000 --> 07:23.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% IN WHICH MICHAEL BROWN WAS 07:20.633 --> 07:25.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% SHOT, A BLACK MAN BY A WHITE 07:21.766 --> 07:26.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% OFFICER AND THAT SET OUT RIGHT 07:23.966 --> 07:28.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AND PROTESTS, REALLY AROUND THE 07:25.833 --> 07:29.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% COUNTRY. 07:26.366 --> 07:33.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AT 07:28.933 --> 07:34.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% ALL FACTORED INTO THEIR 07:29.933 --> 07:35.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% DECISION TONIGHT? 07:33.600 --> 07:37.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> Guest: I GIVE THEM A LOT OF 07:34.766 --> 07:38.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% CREDIT. 07:35.500 --> 07:40.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% TAKEN AT FACE VALUE. 07:37.266 --> 07:45.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THEY DELIBERATED AND IT WASN'T 07:38.433 --> 07:46.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% A UNANIMOUS VERDICT AT THE 07:40.966 --> 07:47.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% BEGINNING. 07:45.433 --> 07:47.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THEY LOOKED AT THE PROS AND 07:46.466 --> 07:49.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% CONS AND IT WAS A HARD DECISION 07:47.300 --> 07:50.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% TO COME TO. 07:47.933 --> 07:55.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% I DON'T THINK IT WAS A PRODUCT 07:49.200 --> 07:56.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% OF THE FERGUSON EFFECT, I THINK 07:50.300 --> 07:57.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:50% IT WAS A PRODUCT OF 07:55.733 --> 07:57.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% DELIBERATION. 07:56.566 --> 08:04.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> Guest: IT IS HARD TO GET 07:57.266 --> 08:05.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% YOUR HEAD AROUND. 07:57.766 --> 08:06.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THERE WAS A VIDEO AND THERE WAS 08:04.133 --> 08:06.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% A TESTIMONY ASKING JURORS TO 08:05.266 --> 08:07.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% BELIEVE SOMETHING ON THE VIDEO 08:06.000 --> 08:08.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THAT DID NOT SEEM TO BE THERE. 08:06.733 --> 08:09.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THE COMBINATION OF THOSE TO THE 08:07.800 --> 08:10.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% VIDEO AND THE TESTIMONY THAT 08:08.533 --> 08:16.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% SEEM TO CONTROVERT WHAT THE 08:09.233 --> 08:17.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% VIDEO SHOWED MADE IT DIFFICULT 08:10.333 --> 08:18.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% FOR THE DEFENSE. 08:16.966 --> 08:19.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> Eddie: THERE IS A LOT OF 08:17.933 --> 08:20.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACKING 08:18.866 --> 08:21.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% TAKING PLACE AND MAYBE WE ARE 08:19.933 --> 08:25.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ALREADY DOING THAT HERE NANCY 08:20.900 --> 08:26.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% MARDER. 08:21.233 --> 08:27.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AS YOU LOOK BACK, SHOULD THEY 08:25.766 --> 08:28.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% HAVE GONE WITH A BENCH TRIAL? 08:26.933 --> 08:28.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% WOULD THAT HAVE MADE A 08:27.566 --> 08:33.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% DIFFERENCE OPPOSED TO A JURY 08:28.366 --> 08:34.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% TRIAL? 08:28.666 --> 08:35.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> Guest: I THINK THE JURY 08:33.366 --> 08:36.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% TRIAL IS THE FAIREST PROTECTION 08:34.500 --> 08:37.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THAT WE OFFER TO DEFENDANTS. 08:35.366 --> 08:39.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% IT IS NOT A PERFECT SYSTEM THAT 08:36.500 --> 08:42.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% THERE IS NO PERFECT SYSTEM. 08:37.166 --> 08:43.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% I THINK THE JURY TRIAL IS WHAT 08:39.600 --> 08:47.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% YOU DO IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT 08:42.766 --> 08:52.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% A FAIR TRIAL. 08:43.766 --> 08:53.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> Eddie: WHAT IT HAVE MADE ANY 08:47.566 --> 08:54.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% DIFFERENCE IF JASON VAN DYKE 08:52.800 --> 08:54.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% TESTIFIED? 08:53.566 --> 08:55.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% DO YOU THINK? 08:54.000 --> 08:55.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> Guest: I THINK ACCORDING TO 08:54.733 --> 08:57.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% MY COLLEAGUE HERE, HE HAD NO 08:55.466 --> 09:01.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% CHOICE. 08:55.800 --> 09:03.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> Guest: IN A SELF-DEFENSE 08:57.233 --> 09:04.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% CASE, YOU CAN ALWAYS HAVE ONE 09:01.466 --> 09:05.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% PERSON SAY WHAT THEY ARE 09:03.300 --> 09:06.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THINKING AND THAT WAS JASON VAN 09:04.033 --> 09:11.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% DYKE GOOD THREE OF ALL THE 09:05.333 --> 09:12.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% PEOPLE IN THE COURTROOM TODAY 09:06.300 --> 09:13.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% YOU GOT A SHOUT OUT FROM THE 09:11.600 --> 09:14.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% JUDGE, HE PRAISED YOU AND 09:12.666 --> 09:15.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% NOTICED THAT YOU WERE IN THE 09:13.366 --> 09:19.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% COURTROOM THERE. 09:14.600 --> 09:21.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% TELL US WHAT YOU FELT AND SAW 09:15.766 --> 09:21.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% IN THE COURTROOM. 09:19.300 --> 09:26.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> Guest: IT WAS AN INTENSE 09:21.033 --> 09:28.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% COURTROOM. 09:21.433 --> 09:28.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% I WAS NOT INVOLVED AS A TRIAL 09:26.166 --> 09:31.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% LAWYER, BUT I WAS JUST THERE AS 09:28.233 --> 09:33.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% AN OBSERVER. 09:28.633 --> 09:33.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IN TERMS OF THE JUDGE GIVING A 09:31.033 --> 09:37.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SHOUT OUT, I WILL GIVE HIM ONE 09:33.400 --> 09:39.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% BACK. 09:33.866 --> 09:40.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% I KNOW IT WAS A HARD CASE. 09:37.666 --> 09:40.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT AND VERY 09:39.833 --> 09:42.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% COMPLICATED. 09:40.233 --> 09:43.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% IT WAS IN THE FRONT PAGE AS YOU 09:40.966 --> 09:45.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% KNOW, IT WAS A HEATER CASE. 09:42.533 --> 09:47.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% I DON'T THINK THE VERDICT 09:43.566 --> 09:47.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WOULD'VE BEEN ANY DIFFERENT HAD 09:45.966 --> 09:53.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% IT BEEN A BENCH TRIAL.I THINK 09:47.266 --> 09:56.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% THE LAW IS THE LAW. 09:47.800 --> 09:56.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> Eddie: SHARONE MITCHELL, ONE 09:53.133 --> 09:57.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% OF THE GROUNDS FOR AN APPEAL 09:56.300 --> 10:02.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% HERE? 09:56.866 --> 10:03.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% >> Guest: THEY WILL TRY TO 09:57.666 --> 10:04.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% APPEAL IN THE APPEAL PROCESS 10:02.633 --> 10:05.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% BUT THEY CAN THROW ANYTHING 10:03.800 --> 10:05.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AGAINST THE WALL TO SEE IF IT 10:04.533 --> 10:06.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% WILL STICK. 10:05.233 --> 10:07.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% I THINK ONE OF THE FOCUS WILL 10:05.966 --> 10:08.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BE THE VENUE QUESTION, THE IDEA 10:06.733 --> 10:13.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THAT THE CASE WAS HEARD IN COOK 10:07.466 --> 10:14.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% COUNTY AND BECAUSE THE 10:08.166 --> 10:14.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% SENTIMENT AROUND THE CASE 10:13.033 --> 10:15.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% LOCALLY THAT THE DEFENDANT 10:14.300 --> 10:16.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% COULD NOT GET A FAIR TRIAL, 10:14.966 --> 10:18.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THERE WILL BE OTHER ISSUES AS 10:15.700 --> 10:19.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WELL BUT ISIS ACT THAT WILL BE 10:16.466 --> 10:24.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% ONE OF THE MAIN ARGUMENTS. 10:18.900 --> 10:25.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> Eddie: DO YOU WANT TO THROW 10:19.866 --> 10:26.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% A MONKEYWRENCH AT THAT? 10:24.000 --> 10:28.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> Guest: MY UNDERSTANDING IS 10:25.033 --> 10:29.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THAT NOT ALL OF THE CHALLENGES 10:26.133 --> 10:30.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% OF THE JURY WAS EXERCISED THE 10:28.233 --> 10:30.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% LAW IS CLEAR THAT YOU HAVE TO 10:29.500 --> 10:31.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% EXERCISE ALL OF THAT TO MAKE 10:30.200 --> 10:37.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% SURE THE JURY WAS FAIR. 10:30.800 --> 10:37.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% IF ALL THE CHALLENGES WAS 10:31.633 --> 10:38.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% EXERCISE IT WILL BE A LOSING 10:37.000 --> 10:39.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% APPEAL. 10:37.666 --> 10:40.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> Eddie: DESCRIBED THE IMPACT 10:38.400 --> 10:41.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% OF A CASE LIKE THIS ON THE 10:39.733 --> 10:45.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% JURY. 10:40.200 --> 10:47.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% EXCUSE ME THE JURORS. 10:41.766 --> 10:48.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> Guest: I THINK ANYTIME THAT 10:45.766 --> 10:49.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% YOU SERVE AS A JUROR, IT LEAVES 10:47.700 --> 10:53.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% A LASTING IMPRESSION. 10:48.266 --> 10:54.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% YOU CAN ASK WILL 20 YEARS LATER 10:49.100 --> 10:55.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AND THEY WILL REMEMBER THE JURY 10:53.766 --> 10:56.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% TRIAL. 10:54.266 --> 10:57.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% I THINK WHEN PEOPLE SERVE, THEY 10:55.166 --> 10:58.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% REALIZE HOW SERIOUS THEIR JOB 10:56.466 --> 11:00.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% IS WHERE THEY GROW TO TAKE 10:57.766 --> 11:05.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% THEIR JOB VERY SERIOUSLY. 10:58.466 --> 11:06.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% AND SO, IT IS SOMETHING THAT 11:00.500 --> 11:06.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% STAYS WITH THEM AND I THINK 11:05.300 --> 11:07.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS IT IS 11:06.000 --> 11:08.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SOMETHING THAT CAN CAUSE THEM A 11:06.866 --> 11:11.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% GREAT DEAL OF ANGUISH OR 11:07.533 --> 11:12.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% STRESS. 11:08.933 --> 11:15.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BECAUSE, THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH 11:11.300 --> 11:16.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% THIS EMOTIONALLY WRENCHING 11:12.400 --> 11:17.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% EXPERIENCE BUT ONE THAT THEY 11:15.100 --> 11:18.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% ARE USUALLY QUITE POSITIVE 11:16.233 --> 11:19.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% ABOUT AFTERWARD. 11:17.266 --> 11:26.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> Eddie: THEY SOUNDED VERY 11:18.333 --> 11:27.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% PROUD TO BE A PART OF THE 11:19.133 --> 11:28.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% PROCESS ON THAT JURY. 11:26.733 --> 11:29.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% SHARONE MITCHELL, THERE WAS A 11:27.800 --> 11:30.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE MAKEUP OF 11:28.733 --> 11:31.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THE STREET BECAUSE THERE WAS 11:29.633 --> 11:32.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ONLY ONE AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND 11:30.733 --> 11:33.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% WE HEARD FROM HER THIS 11:31.500 --> 11:33.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% AFTERNOON.WAS THAT JUROR IN 11:32.200 --> 11:36.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% EACH OF THE POSITION TO THINK 11:33.133 --> 11:37.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% WE'LL. 11:33.700 --> 11:37.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> Guest: YOU KNOW, I AM NOT 11:36.866 --> 11:38.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% SURE. 11:37.333 --> 11:39.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF 11:37.966 --> 11:41.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% COMMENTARY CENTERED AROUND THIS 11:38.933 --> 11:42.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% AND THAT IT WOULD BE ABOUT 11:39.766 --> 11:44.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% RACE, BUT I DID NOT GET IN THE 11:41.633 --> 11:49.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% TRIAL. 11:42.100 --> 11:50.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THERE WAS ONE MENTION OF LAQUAN 11:44.066 --> 11:51.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% McDONALD BEING A BLACK BOY AND 11:49.266 --> 11:52.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THERE WAS A RESPONSE IN THE 11:50.233 --> 11:53.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% OPENING BY DAN HERBERT SAYING 11:51.266 --> 11:54.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% IT WAS NOT ABOUT RACE.THE 11:52.133 --> 11:55.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% ACTUAL TESTIMONY, THE CRUX OF 11:53.433 --> 11:56.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THE CASE DID NOT CENTER ABOUT 11:54.966 --> 11:56.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% RACE. 11:55.366 --> 11:59.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WAS A 11:56.166 --> 12:01.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% FACTOR. 11:56.833 --> 12:02.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> Eddie: RICHARD KLING, THIS 11:59.433 --> 12:05.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% IS NOT OVER. 12:01.100 --> 12:15.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THERE WILL BE ANOTHER TRIAL OF 12:02.166 --> 12:15.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% THREE OFFICERS CHARGED WITH 12:05.166 --> 12:15.900 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:32.5% CONSPIRING A 12:19.233 --> 12:21.266 align:start position:42.5% line:74% size:40% THREAT POSED BY 12:19.766 --> 12:21.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% LAQUAN McDONALD. 12:20.500 --> 12:22.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% IT WILL BE ANOTHER SERIOUS 12:21.266 --> 12:23.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% CASE. 12:21.800 --> 12:23.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% GIVE US A PREVIEW OF WHAT MIGHT 12:22.566 --> 12:24.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% HAPPEN THERE, GIVEN WHAT 12:23.200 --> 12:25.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% HAPPENED TODAY. 12:23.666 --> 12:26.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> Guest: IF I WAS A DEFENSE 12:24.500 --> 12:27.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% LAWYER IN THAT CASE I WOULD BE 12:25.233 --> 12:27.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% POURING OVER THIS TESTIMONY AND 12:26.066 --> 12:28.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THE JURY BECAUSE I WOULD BE 12:27.066 --> 12:28.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% SERIOUSLY QUESTIONING WEATHER 12:27.766 --> 12:29.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% OR NOT I WANT TO NEGOTIATE A 12:28.466 --> 12:32.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% PLEA. 12:28.766 --> 12:33.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% REALISTICALLY IT IS CLEAR NOW 12:29.533 --> 12:34.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% THAT THE CITIZENS OF COOK 12:32.466 --> 12:35.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% COUNTY CAN CONVICT A POLICE 12:33.466 --> 12:35.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% OFFICER IF THEY BELIEVE THE