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>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO

"CHICAGO TONIGHT."

>> THERE IS A FINDING OF NOT

GUILTY AS TO EVERY COUNT IN EACH

DEFENDANT OF CONSPIRACY,

OFFICIAL MISCONDUCT AND

OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.

>> A COOK COUNTY JUDGE

ACQUITINGS POLICE OFFICERS OF

ALL CHARGES IN AN ALLEGED COVER

UP TO PROTECT JASON VAN DYKE IN

THE LAQUAN McDONALD SHOOTING.

>> EVERYBODY BUT THE

AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THE COUNTY.

>> AND THE BACKLASH OF THE

VERDICT HAS BEGUN.

A LOOK AT WHAT IT MAY MEAN

MOVING FORWARD.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE

ARE DOING AT O'HARE TO MAKE SURE

THAT O'HARE STAYS THE BEST

AIRPORT IN THE UNITED STATES OF

AMERICA.

>> INSIDE THE FIVE PROPOSALS TO

REDESIGN O'HARE'S TERMINAL 2 AS

PART OF THE $8.5 BILLION

EXPANSION PLAN.

COULD MARIJUANA HELP KEEP PEOPLE

OFF OF OPIOIDS IN LIGHT OF

STARTLING OVERDOSE NUMBERS?

AND SWAPPING THE COCKTAIL FOR A

MOCK TAIL IS PART OF A TREND

CALLED DRY JANUARY WE DRINK IN

THE DETAILS OF THE FAD AND

POTENTIAL BENEFITS.

>> THESE ARE ARE THE ANCIENT

STORYTELLING AND SPINS IN A

MODERN WAY.

>> BRENDAN COYLE TALKING ABOUT

HIS NEW SHOW AT THE GOODMAN

THEATER AND THE EXPERIENCE OF

PLAYING A KEY ROLE IN DOWNTON

ABBEY.

AND HEATHER HENSON TALKS ABOUT

THE PUPPET THEATER FESTIVAL AND

GROWING UP AS THE DAUGHTER OF

JIM HENSON.

ALL THAT AND MORE NEXT ON

"CHICAGO TONIGHT."

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>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND

THANKS FOR READING THAT I'M

PARIS SCHUTZ.

FIRST EXPLORING TODAY'S VERDICT

IN THE POLICE CONSPIRACY TRIAL.

BRANDIS BEGINS OUR COVERAGE.

>> AND PARIS, COOK COUNTY JUDGE

DOMENICA STEPHENSON TODAY

ACQUITTED THREE POLICE OFFICERS

OF CONSPIRING TO COVER UP THE

CONTROVERSIAL CIRCUMSTANCES

SURROUNDING THE FATAL SHOOTING

OF TEENAGER LAQUAN McDONALD IN

2014.

THE TRIAL SHONE A BRIGHT LIGHT

ON A CODE OF SILENCE THAT

OPERATES WITHIN THE POLICE

DEPARTMENT AND THEY SAY IT

PREVENTS OFFICERS GILLFY OF

WRONGDOING FROM BEING HELD

ACCOUNTABLE.

MATT MASTERSON JOINS US NOW.

WHAT HAPPENED IN COURT AND HOW

DID THE JUDGE GO ABOUT MAKING

HER FINDINGS?

>> THE JUDGE SPOKE FOR AN HOUR

AND MADE IT CLEAR EARLY ON THAT

THE VERDICT WAS NOT GOING TO GO

AGAINST THESE MEN.

DOMENICA STEPHENSON WALKED

THROUGH THE PROSECUTOR'S CASE

GOING THROUGH THE BACKGROUND

HERE AND SHE CONTINUALLY POINTED

OUT HOW THE PROSECUTORS FAILED

TO PROVE THEIR CASE.

SHE DISMISSED DASH-CAM VIDEO

EVIDENCE THAT SHOWED THE

SHOOTING SAYING IT DID NOT

MATCHUP WITH WHAT JASON VAN DYKE

THE OFFICER WHO SHOT LAQUAN

McDONALD AND JOSEPH WALSH HIS

PARTNER CHARGED WERE SEEING

DURING THE SHOOTING.

AND SHE DISMISSED THE TESTIMONY

OF SOME OF THE STATE'S WITNESSES

INCLUDING DOROTHY DORA TO BE TAD

TESTIFIED THAT DAVID MARCH THE

LEAD DETECTIVE ALSO A DEFENDANT

HAD FABRICATED A STATEMENT AND

ATTRIBUTED IT TO HER IN THE

OFFICIAL REPORT.

THE JUDGE DID NOT FIND HER TO BE

A CREDIBLE WITNESS CITING

CONFLICTING TESTIMONY THAT

FONTAINE HAD GIVEN IN THE PAST.

SHE SAYS IT CAME DOWN TO WHETHER

THESE MEN LIED IN OFFICIAL

REPORTS IN AN EFFORT TO COVER

FOR JASON VAN DYKE AND MAKE SURE

HE WAS NOT GOING TO FACE A

CRIMINAL PROSECUTION.

AND EVERY ATTORNEY I HAVE SPOKEN

TO TALKS ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT A

CASE OF CONSPIRACY IS TO PROVE.

AND JUDGE DOMENICA STEPHENSON'S

MADE IT CLEAR THAT SHE WAS NOT

BUYING THE PROSECUTOR'S CASE.

>> AND AFTER THE JUDGE'S

VERDICT, THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY

AND PATRICIA HOLMES SHARED THEIR

REACTION.

>> SHE HEARD EVERY WORD OF THE

TESTIMONY IN THIS TRIAL AND

CONCLUDED AS WE DID A YEAR

BEFORE THAT THERE NEVER WAS A

CASE HERE.

DESPITE ALL OF THE INTEREST THAT

ALL YOU HAVE, THERE NEVER EVER

WAS A CASE.

>> WE, OF COURSE, DISAGREE WITH

THE RULING.

BUT WE RESPECT THE RULING.

IT IS THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT

OF INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE A TRIAL

BY JUDGE OR A TRIAL BY JURY.

WE DO HOPE THAT THIS HAS BEEN A

CRACK IN THE WALL OF THE CODE OF

SILENCE.

AND THAT OTHERS WILL THINK TWICE

ABOUT ENGAGING IN CONDUCT THAT

MIGHT LAND THEM IN AN

INVESTIGATION SUCH AS THIS.

>> AND MATT, WHAT WAS THE

REACTION INSIDE THE COURTROOM

AFTER THE VERDICT WAS ANNOUNCED?

>> DURING THE HEARING THE MEN

WERE STRAIGHT-FACED AND SOMBER.

DAVID MARCH ONE OF THE

DEFENDANTS WAS CRACKING JOKES

BUT THE REST WERE STONE FACED

AND THAT CHANGED ONCE THE JUDGE

MADE HER RULING.

THERE WERE SMILES AND HANDSHAKES

AMONG THE DEFENDANTS AND

ATTORNEYS AND CLAPPING IN THE

COURTROOM.

AND PLENTY OF POLICE SUPPORTERS

THERE WITH THEM AND DURING THE

TRIAL YOU COULD HEAR SOME OF THE

PROSECUTORS REALIZE HOW THE CASE

WAS GOING TO GO.

I WAS NEXT TO THE TABLE AND YOU

COULD HEAR THE SIGHS AS THE

JUDGE POKED HOLES IN THEIR CASE

AND SIDED WITH THE DEFENSE.

AND SOME WERE EXPRESSING A FEAR

THAT THE VERDICT COMING ONE DAY

BEFORE JASON VAN DYKE IS

SENTENCED COULD HAVE AN IMPACT

ON WHAT SENTENCE HE DOES

RECEIVE.

>> AND ACTIVISTS INCLUDING

LAQUAN McDONALD'S UNCLE SAID

THE VERDICT REENFORCES A CODE OF

SILENCE WITHIN THE POLICE

DEPARTMENT.

>> IT SOLIDIFIES IT AND IT

BOLSTERS IT AND IT KEEPS IT

INTACT AND IN PLAY.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED A CODE OF

SILENCE TO HAVE A CIVILIZED

JUSTICE SYSTEM IN THE COUNTRY OF

AMERICA.

>> THIS JUDGE TOLD US OUR LYING

EYES DID NOT SEE WHAT WE SAW.

THAT IS AN INSULT TO THE

INTELLIGENCE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WE WANT JUSTICE FOR LAQUAN

McDONALD.

GO VOTE.

TURN THIS TRAGIC INCIDENT INTO

POLITICAL POWER.

THAT'S WHAT WE IMMEDIATE TO DO.

I'M NOT SAYING TAKE TO THE

STREETS.

IT'S TIME FOR US TO TAKE TO THE

POLLS.

>> AND THE FROM TERNAL ORDER OF

POLICE HAVE BEEN BEHIND THE

OFFICERS HOW DID THEY RECEIVE

THE VERDICT?

>> THEY WERE PLEASED WITH THE

RESULT OF THIS.

FOP REPRESENTATIVES HAVE BEEN IN

THE COURT THROUGHOUT THE TRIAL

AND THROUGH JASON VAN DYKE'S

TRIAL AND THEY SAW IT BEING

BASELESS AND THERE WAS UNDUE

PRESSURE PUT ON FOR A CONVICTION

BASED ON MEDIA REPORTS AND

PRESSURE THAT WENT ON WITH THE

CASE.

BUT WITH THE ACQUITTAL THE UNION

BELIEVES THE CASE COULD HAVE A

CHILLING EFFECT ON THE OFFICERS

IN THE STREET AFTER SEEING THE

MEN WHAT THEY SAID WAS BY THE

BOOK INVESTIGATION FOLLOWING THE

SHOOTING OF LAQUAN McDONALD

THEY WERE BROUGHT ON CHARGES

EVEN THOUGH THEY DID NOTHING

WRONG.

>> AND KEVIN GRAHAM SAYS THE

TRIAL SHOULD NEVER HAVE TAKEN

PLACE.

>> THESE THREE OFFICERS SPENT

THEIR CAREERS SERVING THE

CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF CHICAGO.

FOR THAT WE HAVE SEEN THEIR

NAMES DRAGGED THROUGH THE MUD ON

A BASELESS CRIMINAL TRUMPED UP

CASE BY THE SPECIAL PROSECUTOR,

PATRICIA HOLMES.

THERE WAS NO CONSPIRACY AND

THERE WAS NO CODE OF SILENCE.

>> AND ADDITIONALLY OFFICER

JOSEPH WALSH DID HAVE A FEW

WORDS TO SAY TO THE MEDIA WHEN

ASKED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE

TRIAL.

>> HEART WRENCHING WERE

HEARTBREAKING FOR MY FAMILY.

A YEAR-AND-A-HALF.

>> WHAT HAS BEEN THE MOST

DIFFICULT PART?

>> I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY.

>> AND MATT S. THERE ANYTHING

FURTHER THAT CAN COME FROM THIS

CASE?

>> NO, THE MEN HAVE BEEN

ACQUITTED SO THERE WILL NOT BE

AN APPEAL AND THEY CANNOT BE

RETRIED.

MARCH AND WALSH LEFT THE FORCE.

AND THOMAS GAFFNEY, THE OTHER

DEFENDANT, HE WAS REPORTEDLY

REINSTATED TODAY HE HAD BEEN

SUSPENDED WHILE THE CASE WAS

ONGOING.

>> MATT, THANK YOU AND WE KNOW

YOU WILL BE BACK IN COURT FOR

TOMORROW'S STEPSING OF FORMER

OFFICER JASON VAN DYKE FOR

SECOND DEGREE MURDER IN THE

DEATH OF LAQUAN McDONALD.

YOU CAN FOLLOW MATT'S COVERAGE

ON OUR WEBSITE AND WATCH THE

SENTENCING HEARING STARTING AT

9:00 A.M.

BACK TO PARIS FOR MORE ON

TODAY'S VERDICT AND THE

POTENTIAL IMPACT ON CHICAGO

POLICE.

>> WHAT IMPACT, IF ANY, WILL

TODAY'S VERDICT HAVE ON REFORM

AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND

ENDING WITH SOME SEE AS A CODE

OF SILENCE?

THE ANSWER TO THOSE QUESTIONS

REMAIN UP IN THE AIR AND GIVEN

THE RULING WHAT IS THE STATUS OF

EFFORTS TO IMPROVE THE

RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN POLICE AND

THE COMMUNITIES THEY SERVE?

JOINING US TO SHARE THEIR

PERSPECTIVES ARE SHARON SHARON Y

CRAIG FUTTERMAN, A CLINICAL LAW

PROFESSOR AND POLICING EXPERT AT

THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO LAW

SCHOOL, GAL PISSETZKY OF THE AND

PETER KOCONIS A RETIRED CHICAGO

POLICE SERGEANT WELCOME ALL OF

YOU.

FIRST, SHARON FAIRLEY DID THE

JUDGE REACH THE CORRECT VERDICT?

>> I WAS NOT AT THE TRIAL AND I

WAS NOT THERE FOR THE

PRESENTATION OF EVIDENCE I WILL

NOT JUDGE HER RULING.

BUT I THINK WE CAN TAKE AWAY

FROM THIS IS THESE CASES ARE

REALLY DIFFICULT TO BRING AND

CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS OF POLICE

OFFICERS ARE RARE.

CHICAGO IS NOT UNUSUAL FROM THAT

VANTAGE POINT.

BUT THE KEY THING IS WE NEED TO

MAKE SURE THAT THE SYSTEM WE

HAVE IN PLACE CAN PREVENT THIS

FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE AND

THAT IS WHERE OUR FOCUS SHOULD

BE FROM THIS POINT ON IS LOOKING

TO THE DEPARTMENT WHAT CHANGES

ARE WE MAKING TO MAKE SURE WE

HAVE SOME SYSTEMIC PREVENTIONS

IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THIS

CANNOT HAPPEN AGAIN.

>> CRAIG FUTTERMAN YOU HAVE BEEN

INVOLVED IN THE CASE FROM THE

BEGINNING WERE YOU SURPRISED

FROM THE VERDICT?

>> SADLY I WAS NOT SURPRISED.

BUT WHAT I WAS SURPRISED BY HOW

PAINFUL IT WAS TO ACTUALLY

LISTEN TO THE JUDGE GIVE THAT

VERDICT.

BECAUSE WHAT I WOUND UP HEARING

FROM THE JUDGE AND THIS WILL NOT

MAKE ME POPULAR AMONG JUDGES OR

LAWYERS WAS WHAT SOUNDED LIKE

FROM A JUDGE, A FULL THROATED

DEFENSE, THE FULL THROATED

DEFENSE OF NOT ONLY THE COVER UP

BUT ACTUALLY OF THE MURDER OF

LAQUAN McDONALD.

IT SOUNDED LIKE I WAS LISTENING

TO THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY THERE.

THIS WAS AN HISTORIC CASE AND AN

HISTORIC PROSECUTION.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS IT

HAPPENED IS PEOPLE STOOD UP AND

PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY FORCED

THE RELEASE OF THIS VIDEO.

AND AS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT

I HEARD, IT WAS AS THOUGH

EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE ALL SEEN

WITH OUR OWN EYES WAS NOT TRUE.

THIS IN MY VIEW IS A REAL

TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE TODAY AND

WHEN THERE WAS AN HISTORIC

OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A REAL DENT

IN THE CODE OF SILENCE SO THAT

OFFICERS WILL THINK TWICE LIKE

IS THIS REALLY WORTH IT?

IS IT REALLY WORTH IT TO COVER

UP FOR A FELLOW OFFICER WHEN

IT'S MY JOB AND IT COULD BE MY

FREEDOM ON THE LINE.

>> CLEARLY THE JUDGE RULED THERE

WAS NO COVER UP.

GAL PISSETZKY SHE SAYS TWO

PEOPLE WITH TWO DIFFERENT

VANTAGE POINTS CAN DESCRIBE THE

SAME EVENT DIFFERENTLY AND NOT

BE LYING.

IS IT BELIEVABLE THAT THE

OFFICERS SAW A DIFFERENT LAQUAN

McDONALD THAN WE SAW ON THE

DASH-CAM VIDEO BECAUSE OF THEIR

WHERE THEY WERE SITUATED?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

WHEN YOU ARE AT THE SCENE OF A

CRIME OR THE SCENE WHEN YOU

WATCH SOMETHING, TWO PEOPLE SEE

IT FROM TWO DIFFERENT VANTAGE

POINTS AND YOU HAVE THE CAMERA,

TOO, THAT WAS PLAYED OVER AND

OVER DURING THE VAN DYKE CASE

BUT IT WAS NOT THE VANTAGE POINT

THAT VAN DYKE SAW THINGS

HAPPENING EITHER.

I THINK THE CAMERA IS A LITTLE

MISLEADING IN THE WAY THAT THE

CAMERA WAS PORTRAYED IN THE VAN

DYKE CASE IS DIFFERENT THAN HOW

IT WAS IN THIS CASE.

AND YOU HAVE EYEWITNESSES THAT

SAW THINGS FROM A DIFFERENT

PERSPECTIVE.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE EYEWITNESS THAT

THE JUDGE DOMENICA STEPHENSON

DISCREDITED IN A WAY HE WAS

SITTING TWO CARS AWAY AND HE WAS

BEING TOLD TO TURN AROUND WASN'T

HAVING ANY INTERACTION WITH THE

OFFICERS.

AND THE IMPORTANT THING TO

REMEMBER IT WAS A CONSPIRACY

CASE WHERE THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY

AGREEMENTS OR EVIDENCE THAT

THESE OFFICERS ACTUALLY AGREED

TO COMMIT A CRIME.

>> PETER KOCONIS, HOW MUCH WOULD

A VERDICT LIKE THIS IMPACT

MORALE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT?

>> I THINK THE VERDICT IT WAS

RIGHT AND JUST VERDICT BECAUSE

THE JUDGE FOLLOWED THE LAW AND

FOLLOWED THE FACTS AND FOLLOWED

THE EVIDENCE.

AND TO SAY ANYTHING LESS IT

WOULD BE TERRIBLY WRONG.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE POLICE AND

THE BAD GUYS EVERYBODY HAS TO BE

TREATED FAIRLY.

AND YOU CAN'T TURN AROUND AND

SAY THAT THIS JUDGE MADE A

MISTAKE HERE OR THE JUDGE MADE A

MISTAKE THERE.

I THOUGHT SHE PRESENTED THE

DEFENSE FOR --

A VERDICT ON WHAT THESE OFFICERS

DID.

AND SHE WENT PAGE BY PAGE,

REPORT BY REPORT, THE GPR'S OF

THE DETECTIVES AND THE REPORTS

OF THE POLICE OFFICERS, AND

Mr. FUTTERMAN IS FRIENDS WITH

JAMIE CALVIN.

>> THE JOURNALIST WHO BROKE THIS

STORY.

>> MY PROBLEM THERE IS Mr.

CALVIN WAS GIVEN INFORMATION

REGARDING THIS CASE FROM

PRECKWINKLE WHEN THE JUDGE PUT A

SEAL ON THE CASE.

SO WHY IS HE SITTING THERE

GETTING INFORMATION THAT NOBODY

ELSE NO LAWYERS NO CIVILIANS,

THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY,

NONE OF THEM GOT ANY OF THAT

INFORMATION.

BUT PRECKWINKLE GAVE IT TO HER

FRIEND Mr. CALVIN.

>> SHE HAS BEEN FACING

QUESTIONS.

AND CRAIG FUTTERMAN I WANT TO

RETURN TO WHAT YOU SAID, THE

JUDGE DISAGREED WITH THE

CONCLUSIONS THAT THE JURY IN THE

VAN DYKE TRIAL CAME TO.

COULD THIS RULING AFFECT THAT

SENTENCING TOMORROW?

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

I THINK THE JUDGE GAUGHAN IS

GOING TO DO WHAT HE THINKS IS

FAIR AND JUST AND RIGHT.

AND I DON'T THINK HE WILL BE

IMPACTED BY WHAT HAPPENED TODAY.

I AM NOT MAKING PREDICTIONS BUT

I CAN SAY THAT JUDGE GAUGHAN IS

GOING TO TRY TO ARRIVE AT A

SENTENCE THAT HE BELIEVES, I MAY

NOT AGREE WITH IT, YOU MAY NOT

AGREE WITH IT, BUT I THINK HE IS

GOING TO TRY TO FIND A SENTENCE

THAT HE THINKS IS RIGHT.

>> SHARON FAIRLEY COULD A

VERDICT LIKE THIS IMPACT THE

APPEAL OF JASON VAN DYKE?

>> I DON'T REALLY THINK SO.

I THINK THEY ARE SEPARATE

MATTERS.

SO THIS IS REALLY A DIFFERENT

QUESTION.

THIS CONSPIRACY CASE RATHER THAN

THE MURDER CASE.

I DON'T THINK SO THAT IS WHY I'M

FOCUSED ON WHAT THE SYSTEM, WHAT

WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THIS

DOESN'T HAPPEN.

WE KNOW WE HAVE A DEPARTMENT --

POLICE OFFICERS DO NOT LIKE

CALLING EACH OTHER OUT.

IT'S JUST REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE

FOR THEM.

SO WHAT ARE WE DOING TO CHANGE

THAT CULTURE?

WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MAKE SURE

THAT THEY BECOME COMFORTABLE

WITHHOLDING EACH OTHER

ACCOUNTABLE?

THAT IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND

NEEDS TO CHANGE ABOUT THIS

DEPARTMENT AND WE NEED TO HAVE

SYSTEMS IN PLACE AND PROTOCOLS

IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT

HAPPENS.

>> AND YOU WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN

TRYING TO LEAD THE REFORM

EFFORTS.

GAL PISSETZKY DO YOU THINK A

VERDICT LIKE THIS POURS COLD

WATER ON EFFORTS TO BRING

FORWARD A CONSENT DECREE AND

REFORM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT?

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

I THINK THE OFFICERS WROTE IN

REPORTS WHAT THEY SAW.

AND I THINK THESE OFFICERS ACTED

IN A WAY THAT ANY OFFICER SHOULD

ACT BECAUSE THEY PRESERVE THE

EVIDENCE.

WE DID HAVE THE TAPE.

WE DID HAVE ALL THE EVIDENCE

THAT THEY NEEDED TO PUT VAN DYKE

ON TRIAL.

THESE OFFICERS MAY HAVE HAD SOME

INCONSISTENCIES IN THEIR REPORTS

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE THEY SAID

THERE WAS A BATTERY AND THE

BATTERY WAS CHARGE IN THE VAN

DYKE'S CASE.

I DON'T THINK THAT WILL AFFECT

ANYTHING WITH THE REFORMS.

>> PETER KOCONIS, IS THERE A

CODE OF SILENCE ANYWHERE IN THE

POLICE DEPARTMENT?

CLEARLY THE JUDGE FOUND NOT IN

THIS CASE IS THERE A CULTURE OF

A CODE OF SILENCE?

>> I BELIEVE THAT GANGS DON'T

SNITCH ON EACH OTHER LAWYERS DO

NOT SNITCH ON EACH OTHER.

I THINK IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT

WHEN I WORKED IN THE INTERM

AFFAIRS DIVISION I DON'T BELIEVE

THERE WAS A CODE OF SILENCE AND

EVERYONE BELIEVES THERE IS NOW.

POLICE WILL TURN IN A CORRUPT

POLICEMAN THAT IS HOW WE GOT

CONVICTIONS OF EXTORTION AND

ROBBERIES IN THE WATTS CASE AND

THE PACKMAN CASE.

IT WAS POLICEMEN WHO CAME

FORWARD THAT GAVE EVIDENCE AND

INFORMATION AGAINST OTHER

POLICEMEN.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO TELL ME IF I

CALL SOMEBODY WHAT THE VERN

KNACKLER OUT OF THEIR NAME OR

SWEAR ON SOMEBODY OUT OF THE

STREET AM I SUPPOSED TO TURN TO

MY PARTNER AND I WILL TELL THE

SERGEANT ON YOU?

IT IS A DIFFERENT WEIGHT THERE.

>> THEY ARE NOT GOING TO COVER

UP EXTORTION, MURDER, ROBBERY,

RAPE.

THE POLICEMEN UNFORTUNATELY I

PARTICIPATED IN INVESTIGATIONS

OF THEM, POLICEMEN CAME FORWARD

AND SAID THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.

BECAUSE POLICEMEN WHO ARE

CROOKED ARE PUTTING THE OTHER

POLICEMEN JOBS AND LIVES ON THE

LINE.

>> SHARON FAIRLEY HAS THAT BEEN

YOUR EXPERIENCE WHEN YOU LED

I.P.R.A. AND C.O.P.A. DO YOU

AGREE?

>> MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT THE

PROBLEMS THAT WE FACE IS THAT

THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS

THERE'S TOO MUCH OPPORTUNITY FOR

OFFICERS TO GET THEIR STORIES

STRAIGHT.

AND EVEN IF THERE IS NO

NEFARIOUS INTENT THERE IS

OPPORTUNITY.

THIS OCCURRED BACK WHEN THE RULE

DID NOT REQUIRE THAT OFFICERS BE

SEPARATED AFTER A SHOOTING.

SO THEY ALL WENT BACK TO THE

HEADQUARTERS TOGETHER AND SAT

DOWN AND TALKED ABOUT IT.

AND SO EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T

INTEND TO CONSPIRE TO MAKEUP A

STORY --

>> THERE IS A PERCEPTION

PROBLEM.

>> THEY HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY

ONE PERSON LISTENS TO WHAT THE

OTHER PERSON SAYS AND I WILL

ADOPT THE SAME STORY.

THESE ARE THE SYSTEMIC CHANGES

THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT

THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN.

>> HOW EQUIPPED IS THE CITY NOW

IN 2019 TO DEAL WITH THE

SITUATION LIKE THIS SHOULD IT

ARISE AGAIN AS OPPOSED TO WHEN

THIS CASE HAPPENED IN 2014?

>> I MEAN, THIS HIGHLIGHTS THE

NEED FOR THAT EXTERNAL REVIEW

THAT EXTERNAL OVERSIGHT AND AS

SHARON SAID WHAT IS GOING TO

HAPPEN NEXT?

C.P.D. HAS SHOWN THEY HAVE NOT

BEEN ABLE AND THEY ARE NOT TO

CHANGE ON THEIR OWN.

I AGREE AND DISAGREE WITH PETER

KOCONIS WHAT I AGREE WITH IS

THAT A CODE OF SILENCE AND

CORRUPT ACTIONS CRIMINAL ACTIONS

BY POLICE OFFICERS HURT GOOD

POLICE OFFICERS HONEST POLICE

OFFICERS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE

IN THE WORLD.

BUT WHAT I DISAGREE WITH IS

ABOUT OFFICERS COMING FORWARD.

EVEN IN THE CASES THAT YOU

TALKED ABOUT.

IN THE WATTS CASE, THE OFFICERS

WHO CAME FORWARD WHAT HAPPENED

TO THEM?

THEIR LIVES WERE MADE A LIVING

HELL BECAUSE THEY BROKE THE CODE

OF SILENCE.

AND WHAT HAPPENED A JURY FOUND

THE CODE OF SILENCE IN THE CASE

AND A.T.F. AGENTS LIVES WERE PUT

ON THE LINE BECAUSE THEY ARE

STUCK HER NECKS OUT.

AND SO THAT IS THE PROBLEM THAT

I HAVE WITH THE VERDICT ALSO IS

THAT NOT ONLY DOES IT SEND A BAD

MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY BUT IT

SENDS A BAD MESSAGE TO THE

OFFICERS DOING THEIR JOBS IN

THIS CASE, ITSELF, TOO IT WAS

SOMEONE WITHIN LAW ENFORCEMENT

WHO HAD THE COURAGE TO GIVE ME A

CALL TO SAY TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.

THERE IS A VIDEO HERE SOMETHING

WRONG HAPPENED.

>> HOW COULD THIS VERDICT AFFECT

COMMUNITY-POLICE RELATIONS?

>> I THINK THE MAJOR THING WE

NEED IN THE COMMUNITY THAT

EVERYBODY IS SAYING NOW ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT, I THINK WE NEED THE

COMMUNITY TO COME FORWARD AND

TALK ABOUT THESE GANGS AND

SHOOTINGS AND SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO

GET THE COMMUNITIES TO

UNDERSTAND THAT THE POLICEMEN

THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE TRYING

TO DO THE RIGHT THING NEED THEIR

HELP.

THE POLICE NEED THE HELP OF THE

COMMUNITY IN ALL THESE INSTANCES

WITH THE RIDICULOUS AMOUNTS OF

3,000 SHOOTINGS AND 500 PEOPLE

KILLED.

IF NOBODY COMES FORWARD, AND

GIVES POLICE JUST --

GIVE ME A LEAD.

GIVE ME AN IDEA.

GIVE ME WHAT GANG.

GIVE ME ANYTHING.

>> CLEARLY A LOT OF MISTRUST.

>> BUT NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING AND

THE POLICEMEN I DON'T THINK

MISTRUST THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK THE POLICEMEN DON'T HAVE

INTERACTION WITH THE COMMUNITY.

AND COMMUNITY POLICING NEVER

WORKED.

AND YOU HAVE TO GET BACK TO THE

BEAT OFFICER KNOWING THE PEOPLE

THAT HE IS WORKING FOR.

>> WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE AND

THIS IS A DISCUSSION TO BE

CONTINUED BUT SHARON FAIRLEY,

CRAIG FUTTERMAN AND GAL

PISSETZKY AND PETER KOCONIS

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

UP NEXT, BRANDIS UPDATES US ON

MORE OF THE DAY'S TOP STORIES.

>> MORE OF WHAT IS MAKING NEWS

IN CHICAGO TONIGHT.

FOR HIS SECOND BILL SIGNING NEW

GOVERNOR J.B. PRITZKER IS

REQUIRING GUN DEALERS IN

ILLINOIS TO HAVE A STATE

LICENSE.

THE LAW ATTEMPTS TO CRACKDOWN ON

ILLEGAL GUN PURCHASES BY

REQUIRING FIREARMS DEALERS TO

COMPLETE ANNUAL TRAINING, SAFELY

STORE WEAPONS TO PREVENT THEFT

AND HAVE EMPLOYEES UNDER GO

BACKGROUND CHECKS.

IT ALSO PROHIBITS GUN DEALERS

FROM OPENING A BUSINESS WITHIN

500 FEET OF A SCHOOL OR DAYCARE.

>> THERE ARE A LOT OF PROVISIONS

OF THIS LEGISLATION THAT DO MUCH

MORE THAN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

DOES.

AND THAT ARE AN EXPRESSION OF

THE VALUES OF THE PEOPLE OF

ILLINOIS THEY ARE JUST WRONG.

AND I WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE

THAT WE'RE STANDING UP TO THE

VOICES LIKE THE ILLINOIS STATE

RIFLE ASSOCIATION AND THE

NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION.

>> AND AND THE ILLINOIS STATE

RIFLE ASSOCIATION CONDEMNS THE

LAW SAYING IT IS UNNECESSARY

BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

ALREADY REGULATES FIREARMS

DEALERS AND THE COST OF

REGISTRATION WILL HURT SMALL

BUSINESS OWNERS.

SUPPORTERS SAY THAT FEDERAL

OVERSIGHT IS INSUFFICIENT.

>> TODAY, A TENANTS RIGHTS

ATTORNEY FOR R. KELLY IS SAYING

A CITY INSPECTION PROVES THIS

CLIENT'S CASE.

HE CLAIMS NO ONE IS LIVING IN

THE WAREHOUSE THAT THE SINGER

RENTS ON THE NEAR WEST SIDE.

THE CITY INSPECT TO DO

YESTERDAY, WEDNESDAY.

THE ATTORNEY CALLED THE

INSPECTION UNEVENTFUL AND ARGUES

THAT THERE WERE NO DANGEROUS OR

EMERGENCY CONDITIONS THAT SHOULD

HAVE WARRANTED THE CITY'S

EMERGENCY COMPLAINT.

TO THE CONTRARY THOSE INSPECTORS

YESTERDAY SAID THEY DID FIND

EVIDENCE OF RESIDENTIAL USE

WHICH IS NOT ZONED AS SUCH.

THE CASE IS BACK IN COURT ON

TUESDAY.

>> ILLINOIS STATE POLICE ARE

PREPARING TO LAY ONE TO REST

TOMORROW.

LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE PAYING

RESPECTS TO THE FAMILY OF

TROOPER CHRISTOPHER LAMBERT AT

WILLOW CREEK COMMUNITY CHURCH.

LAMBERT WAS KILLED WHEN STRUCK

BY I ACAR WHILE WORKING ON

ANOTHER CAR ACCIDENT.

HE LEAVES BEHIND A WIFE AND

ONE-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER.

HIS FUNERAL WILL BE HELD AT THE

SAME CHURCH TOMORROW MORNING.

>>> AS FOR THE WEATHER, TONIGHT

CLOUDY WITH A LOAF OF 24 AND

TOMORROW A HIGH OF 29 AND MOSTLY

CLOUDY UNTIL 5:00 P.M. WHEN THE

SNOW BEGINS.

4-6 INCHES OF SNOW ARE POSSIBLE

IN NORTHERN AND CENTRAL ILLINOIS

TOMORROW NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY.

>> AND YOU CAN GET "CHICAGO

TONIGHT" STREAMED ON Facebook,

YouTube AND OUR WEBSITE,

WTTW.COM/NEWS.

AND YOU CAN ALSO WATCH VIA

PODCAST AND THE PBS VIDEO APP.

NOW, PARIS, BACK TO YOU.

>> THANKS, BRANDIS.

>>> STILL TO COME ON "CHICAGO

TONIGHT", COULD MARIJUANA HELP

KEEP PEOPLE OFF OF OPIOIDS?

ASSESSING THE OPIOID CRISIS AND

EFFORTS TO SAVE LIVES.

>>> A NEW TREND CALLED DRY

JANUARY WHAT TO EXPECT IF YOU

GIVE NOT DRINKING A TRY.

>>> DOWNTON ABBEY STAR BRENDAN

COYLE TALKS ABOUT PLAYING THE

THEATER FOR THE FIRST TIME AND A

LOOK AT THE PUPPET THEATER ARE

HEATHER HENSON.

>> SOME OF THE ELEMENTS PROPOSED

BY FIVE ARCHITECTURAL GROUPS

SELECTED AS FINALISTS TO REBUILD

O'HARE'S TERMINAL TWO PART OF

THE $8.5 BILLION EXPANSION PLAN

AND CITY OFFICIALS WANT TO HEAR

WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE DESIGNS

UNVEILED TODAY.

THE FIVE MOCK-UP PLANS ARE ON

DISPLAY DOWNTOWN AT THE CHICAGO

ARCHITECTURAL FOUNDATION AND AT

O'HARE'S TERMINAL TWO.

THEY WANT THE BUILDING TO MAKE A

DAZZLING FIRST IMPRESSION ON

TRAVELERS COMING THROUGH TOWN.

>> IMAGINE AS THEY COME FROM

CHINA, JAPAN, FRANCE, KENYA FROM

ALL PARTS OF THE WORLD AND THEY

GET OFF AND THIS IS THEIR

OPENING TO AMERICA.

>> WE ARE CHICAGO WE WANT THE

BEST AND WE WANT AN EXPERIENCE

THAT IS FROM THE CURB TO THE

GATE IS REVOLUTIONARY USES THE

MOST MODERN TECHNOLOGY HAS THE

BEST AMENITIES IN THE WORLD AND

IS THE MOST ACCESSIBLE.

>> CITY OFFICIALS SAY THEY

SELECTED THE FIVE OUT OF 12

SUBMISSIONS TOTAL AND ASKING THE

PUBLIC TO WEIGH-IN.

A THOUSAND PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY

VOTED IN THE FIRST FEW HOURS.

THE FINAL SAY WILL COME DOWN TO

A SECRETIVE COMMITTEE.

THE MAYOR HE AOFFICE DECLINED TO

RELEASE THE NAMES OF

COMMITTEEMEMBERS BUT AMERICAN,

UNITED AND OTHER CARRIERS WILL

PLAY A ROLE.

>> WE'LL HAND ALL THE DATA OVER

TO THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE FOR

THEM TO USE WHEN THEY ARE

EVALUATING THE PROPOSALS.

>> THE PROPOSALS RANGE FROM THIS

ROOF DESIGN FROM A TEAM CALLED

FENTRESS-EXP-BROOKS-GARZA.

FOSTER EPSTEIN MORENO JV

SUBMITTED THIS PLAN FOR A

MASSIVE CURVED MAIN HALL.

CHICAGO BASED STUDIO ORD

FEATURING JENNY GANG FEATURES

LOTS OF INDOOR TREES AND GRASS

IN THE FLOOR.

KID SKIDMORE OWINGS AND MERRILL

IS PROPOSING THIS DESIGN PLAYING

UP O'HARE'S ORIGINAL DESIGNATION

AS ORCHARD FIELD AND SANTIAGO

CALATRAVA IS PROPOSING A

REDESIGN FOR THE TERMINAL AND

HOTELS AND PARKING GARAGES.

THE MAYOR SAYS THE BOLD PLANS

ARE NEEDED FOR O'HARE TO KEEP

PACE WITH AIRPORTS AROUND THE

WORLD.

>> EVERYONE OF THOSE TERMINALS

ARE COMPETITORS AND SUBMISSIONS

LOOK LIKE SOMETHING THAT YOU

WOULD SEE IN THE FAR EAST OR THE

MIDDLE EAST.

THAT IS GOING TO BE HERE IN THE

MIDWEST.

>> EMANUEL HAS NOT SET FORTH A

TIME LINE BUT WANTS A DESIGN

SELECTED BEFORE HE LEAVES OFFICE

IN MAY.

THE FINAL PLAN IS EXPECTED TO

ADD 25% MORE GATE CAPACITY AND

INCREASE THE FOOTPRINT FROM FINE

PORTFOLIO 5 TO 8.9 MILLION

SQUARE FEET AND CONSTRUCTION IS

EXPECTED TO START IN 2021 AND

FINISH IN 2028 AND PAID FOR

THROUGH GATE AND CONCESSION

FEES.

>>> CAN MARIJUANA BE A TREATMENT

TO KEEP PEOPLE OFF OF OPIOIDS?

AN ILLINOIS PROGRAM AIMS TO

REDUCE OPIOID ADECKION BY

ALLOWING PEOPLE TO USE CANNABIS

INSTEAD AS MORE PEOPLE ARE

LIKELY TO DIE FROM OPIOID

OVERDOSE THAN FROM A CAR CRASH

AND THE RATE IS HIGHER IN

ILLINOIS.

JOINING US IS FAMILY PHYSICIAN

DR.ELIZABETH SALISBURY-AFSHAR,

SHE IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE

CENTER FOR MULTISYSTEM SOLUTIONS

TO THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC AT THE

AMERICAN INSTITUTE FOR RESEARCH.

AND PROVIDES ADDICTION TREATMENT

TO PATIENTS AT HEARTLAND

ALLIANCE HEALTH AND WAS THE

POINT PERSON FOR OPIOIDS AT THE

CHICAGO DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC

HEALTH.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> IS MARIJUANA AN EFFECTIVE

ALTERNATIVE FOR OPIOIDS?

>> SO I THINK THIS IS AN AREA

THAT IS REALLY HARD TO ANSWER

RIGHT NOW PRIMARILY BECAUSE

MARIJUANA IS A SCHEDULE ONE DRUG

MEANS IT'S ILLEGAL AT THE

FEDERAL LEVEL.

REGARDLESS OF WHAT STATES DO

THERE ARE LIMITATIONS HOW WE CAN

RESEARCH IT AND STUDY IT WHICH

MEANS WE ARE NOT ABLE TO DO THE

SAME MEDICAL STUDIES THAT WE

WOULD FOR OTHER DRUGS.

>> WE DON'T HAVE CLEAR

SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH ON THE CAUSE

AND EFFECT BUT WE HAVE ANECDOTAL

STORIES?

AND SOME STUDIES THAT LOOK LIKE

IT DOES REDUCE PAIN SYMPTOMS AND

OPIOID DESCRIBING AND OTHER

STUDIES SHOW NO BENEFIT THE

CHALLENGE IS WE DON'T HAVE A

CLEAR SENSE AND THE STUDIES ARE

NOT THE TYPES OF STUDIES WE

WANT.

WHEN YOU TRY TO LOOK AT THEM

ACROSS THE BOARD IT IS NOT A

CONSISTENT MESSAGE TO TELL US

YES IT IS A GOODALL TERNE ACTIVE

FOR PAIN.

>> WITH THIS ILLINOIS LAW IF YOU

GET AN OPIOID PRESCRIPTION HOW

DOES THE PILOT PROGRAM WORK NOW?

>> THE WAY THAT THE PILOT

PROGRAM WORKS IF A PHYSICIAN

DEEMED THERE IS A PATIENT WHO

WOULD QUALIFY FOR AN OPIOID, YOU

CAN BASICALLY CERTIFY THAT THEY

HAVE A CONDITION THAT THEN WOULD

ALLOW THEM TO GET A SHORT-TERM,

A 90-DAY MEDICAL MARIJUANA CARD.

>> IS THERE ANY EVIDENCE TO

SUGGEST THAT SUBSTITUTING ONE

ADDICTIVE SUBSTANCE FOR ANOTHER

COULD CAUSE PROBLEMS?

>> SO I THINK YOU KNOW, THIS

OFTEN COMES UP WHEN WE TALK

ABOUT OPIOID ADDICTION

TREATMENT.

AND SO I THINK IT --

>> BECAUSE METHADONE IS A

TREATMENT AND THAT CAN BE

ADDICTIVE TOO.

>> WE HAVE A STRONG CASE FOR

METHADONE WHICH ARE OPIOIDS WHY

WOULD YOU SUBSTITUTE ONE OPIOID

FOR ANOTHER.

WHAT WE KNOW WE HAVE BEEN ABLE

TO STUDY THEM AND THEY ARE FDA

APPROVED AND WE KNOW THAT THEY

DO THINGS LIKE REDUCE THE RISK

THAT SOMEONE RESUMES OPIOID USE

AND REUSE ILLICIT USE AND THEY

REDUCE RISK OF DEATH AND WE HAVE

LONG-TERM STUDIES WITH LARGE

NUMBERS OF PATIENTS SHOWING

THESE SAME FINDINGS OVER AND

OVER WHEN WE THINK OF MEDICAL

EVIDENCE WE HAVE A LOT OF

EVIDENCE THAT THE TREATMENTS ARE

EFFECTIVE.

>> ON THE OTHER HAND IS THERE

EVIDENCE THAT SUGGESTS THAT

MARIJUANA USE COULD HELP WEAN

PEOPLE OFF OF OPIOIDS?

>> I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE

ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE.

WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT THEY

REALLY FEEL IT HELPS THEM BUT

BECAUSE WE CANNOT STUDY IT THE

WAY WE STUDY OTHER DRUGS WE

DON'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF EVIDENCE

TO SAY THAT THIS WILL HELP TREAT

ADDICTION OR THAT IT WILL WEEN

PEOPLE OFF OPIOIDS FOR PAIN.

>> HOW DO MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS

THINK OF THIS MOVEMENT AWAY FROM

OPIOIDS AND TOWARDS CANNABIS?

>> I THINK WE RECOGNIZE AS A

MEDICAL FIELD THAT WE WERE

OVERPRESCRIBING OPIOIDS FOR A

LOT OF TIME THERE WAS A LOT OF

MISINFORMATION AND A BELIEF THAT

THEY WERE SAFER THAN THEY

PROBABLY WERE.

AND OPIOIDS DO NOT HAVE GREAT

IMPACTS ON PAIN FOR PEOPLE WITH

CHRONIC PAIN AND THEY UNDERSTOOD

THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE HAD FOR

PATIENTS WHO HAVE BEEN ON

OPIOIDS FOR A LONGTIME.

MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE

ADDICTION.

AND NOW FIGURING OUT HOW TO BACK

OUT OF THAT SPACE HOW TO HELP

PEOPLE HOW TO FIND DIFFERENT

MODALITIES OFTENTIMES OTHER

OPTIONS ARE NOT COVERED BY

INSURANCE AND THINGS LIKE

PHYSICAL THERAPY PAY COPAYS

EVERY TIME YOU GO.

IT IS A CHALLENGING SPACE TO BE

IN RIGHT NOW.

I THINK ALL OF US ARE OPEN TO

EXPLORING NEW OPTIONS WE ALL

WANT TO FIND THINGS TO HELP OUR

PATIENTS AND MAKE SURE WE ARE

NOT GIVING PEOPLE THINGS THAT

MAY INCREASE RISK.

>> AND YOU MENTION

OVERPRESCRIBING POSSIBLY AND I

READ A STAT SINCE 1999 THERE ARE

THREE TIMES AS MANY OPIOIDS

PRESCRIBED TODAY.

WHY DID THAT HAPPEN?

>> I THINK LIKE MOST THINGS IN

LIFE AND IN PUBLIC HEALTH IT'S

COMPLICATED.

BUT WE KNOW PHARMACEUTICAL

MARKETING PLAYED A ROLE.

THIS SORT OF REALLY HEAVY

PROMOTION THAT THE DRUGS WERE

SAFE AND IF THEY WERE NOT

WORKING WE SHOULD PRESCRIBE MORE

AND MORE.

AND WE KNOW THOSE CLAIMS WERE

NOT TRUE OR EVIDENCE-BASED BUT I

THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF

PRESSURES ON PHYSICIANS TO MEET

PATIENT DEMANDS TO SORT OF SEE

AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE AND

ALSO OTHER ALTERNATIVES AGAIN

THINGS LIKE ACUPUNCTURE,

MASSAGE, BY THE TYPE OF PAIN,

THOSE THINGS OFTEN ARE NOT

COVERED.

SO THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAD

ACCESS TO WERE ON THE

PRESCRIPTION PAD.

SO THERE WERE A LOT OF FACTORS

THAT PLAYED A ROLE.

THERE IS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON

DOCTORS WE SHOULD BE ASKING

ABOUT PAIN AND TREAT TO GO MORE

AGGRESSIVELY.

>> YOU WORK FOR A FEDERALLY

QUALIFIED HEALTH CENTER YOU

CANNOT PRESCRIBE MARIJUANA

BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

AND MARIJUANA IS ILLEGAL ON A

FEDERAL LEVEL?

>> RIGHT.

SO THERE ARE CERTAIN TYPES OF

CLINICS AND HEALTH CENTERS AND

BECAUSE FEDERALLY IT IS ILLEGAL

WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CERTIFY

PEOPLE FOR MARIJUANA IN THE WAY

THAT SOMEONE IN PRIVATE PRACTICE

IS ABLE TO.

>> AND YOU BROUGHT NARCAN WITH

YOU THIS IS WHAT YOU GIVE PEOPLE

WHO ARE OVERDOSING IT IS NOT A

CURE BUT IT IS TO TREAT THE

SYMPTOM.

>> WE KNOW WHEN WE THINK ABOUT

EVIDENCE-BASED AND HOW TO

APPROACH THE OPIOID TREATMENT.

NALOXONE IS A MEDICATION TO

REVERSE AN OVERDOSE ANYONE CAN

CARRY IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO IS

OVERDOSING YOU CAN GIVE THE

MEDICATIONS.

THIS IS THE NASAL SPRAY AND THE

SYRINGE AND THIS TALKS TO YOU

AND.

>> AND THE NALOXONE IS SOMETHING

THAT HOSPITALS ARE GIVING OUT

AND THE COOK COUNTY JAIL IS

GIVING OUT TO INMATES THAT THE

ARE LEAVING.

DR.ELIZABETH SALISBURY-AFSHAR

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

AND BRANDIS IS BACK WITH MORE

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

[♪♪♪]

>> 100 YEARS AGO THIS WEEK,

AMERICA'S NOBLE EXPERIMENT

PROHIBITION WENT INTO EFFECT AND

FAST FORWARD TO TODAY AND MANY

WOULD SAY AMERICA HAS DEVELOPED

A DEEP LOVE AND APPRECIATION FOR

ALCOHOL.

ASIDE FROM THE BEVERAGES, EVENTS

LIKE WINE AND PAINT OR BEER

TASTINGSES AT THE MICRO

BREWERIES CAN MAKE ANY WEEKEND A

BOOZEY ONE BUT A NEW TREND

REQUIRES PARTICIPANTS TO DITCH

ALCOHOL FOR THE FIRST MONTH OF

THE NEW YEAR.

IT'S CALLED DRY JANUARY AND FOR

SOME OF YOU FOR 17 DAYS IN.

JOINING US TO DISCUSS THE FAD

AND BENEFITS ARE JEN BRUNING

SPOKESPERSON FOR THE ACADEMY OF

NUTRITION AND DANIEL FRIDBERG AN

ASSISTANT PROFESSOR OF

PSYCHIATRY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF

CHICAGO.

DANIEL FRIDBERG'S WORK FOCUSES

ON ASSESSMENT AND TREATMENT OF

SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND ADDICTIONS.

WELCOME BOTH OF YOU TO "CHICAGO

TONIGHT."

DAN, WHERE DID THIS TREND COME

FROM?

HOW LONG HAVE PEOPLE BEEN DOING

IT?

>> THIS IS I APUBLIC HEALTH

INITIATIVE THAT STARTED OVERSEAS

IN THE UNITED KINGDOM AND IS

STARTING TO GAIN STEAM IN THE

UNITED STATES THROUGH SOCIAL

MEDIA.

AND THE IDEA IS ON THE SURFACE

SIMPLE.

ABSTAIN FOR ALCOHOL FOR A MONTH

IN JANUARY.

>> JEN, WHY ARE PEOPLE TRY TO

GO?

>> I THINK IT'S TIED TO NEW

YEAR'S RESOLUTIONS AND

OFTENTIMES WE HAVE A DESIRE TO

RECONNECT WITH OUR HEALTH AND

START OFF THE NEW YEAR ON THE

RIGHT FOOT.

>> IS THERE A SPECTRUM TO

ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION THE

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CASUAL

DRINKING AND ADDICTION?

>> THE LOWER RISK LEVEL OF

DRINKING WOULD BE FOR A WOMAN

ABOUT SEVEN DRINKS A WEEK OR

FEWER.

AND THOSE ARE STANDARD ALCOHOLIC

DRINKS.

WHEN YOU EXCEED THOSE LIMITS YOU

DO START TO SEE THE ODDS OR THE

RISK FACTORS FOR PROBLEMS START

TO DEVELOP MORE.

YOU START TO SEE PEOPLE HAVE

PROBLEMS AFTER THAT.

>> WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS TO

GIVING IT UP FOR A MONTH?

>> YOU CAN SEE SOME NICE THINGS

HAPPEN.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE

SEE MOST OFTEN IS THAT THERE'S

QUALITY OF SLEEP IMPROVES WHICH

CAN HAVE A TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECT

IN EVERY PART OF YOUR LIFE.

YOU HAVE MORE ATTENTION AND

FOCUS YOUR MOOD AND ATTITUDE CAN

IMPROVE.

SOME FOLKS CAN SEE WEIGHT LOSS.

AND THINK THE MOST COMPELLING

REASON TO GIVE IT A TRY IS TAKE

THE TIME TO REEXAMINE YOUR

RELATIONSHIP WITH ALCOHOL AND

WHAT ROLE IT PLAYS IN YOUR LIFE.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE STUDIES THAT

SAY ONE GLASS OF RED WINE IS

GOOD FOR ME?

>> THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT A

SMALL AMOUNT OF RED WINE MAY

HAVE A BENEFIT WHEN IT COMES TO

HEART HEALTH BUT THE EVIDENCE IS

NOT STRONG ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE

SHOULD START TO DRINK FOR HEALTH

REASONS AND ALCOHOL IS A TOXIN

AND IT CAN BE HARMFUL TO EVERY

PART OF THE BODY.

TAKING A STEP AWAY IS A HEALTHY

THING THAT PEOPLE CAN DO.

>> AND DAN MENTIONED THE

PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS FOR MONTHS

CAN GIVE YOU TIME TO REFLECT

WHAT IS BEHIND YOUR URGE TO

DRINK.

>> SHE TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY

MOUTH.

THE RELATIONSHIP WITH ALCOHOL IS

IMPORTANT.

ARE YOU DRINKING BECAUSE YOU ARE

BORED?

DEPRESSED?

ANXIOUS?

TO DEAL WITH OTHER PROBLEMS THAT

ALCOHOL IS NOT EFFECTIVE COPING

STRATEGY.

THOSE OF US IN THE PSYCHOLOGICAL

SERVICES BUSINESS WOULD

RECOMMEND MANY OTHER

INTERVENTIONS MORE EFFECTIVE

LONGER TERM AND HAVE FEWER

HEALTH CONSEQUENCES.

>> WHAT ARE THE LONGER TERM

BENEFITS FOR GIVING UP ALCOHOL

FOR THE MONTH?

>> IF YOU WANT TO GO LONGER THAN

A MONTH YOU CAN START TO IMPACT

SOME OF THOSE LONG-TERM CHRONIC

HEALTH CONDITIONS THAT CAN COME

FROM AN UNHEALTHY LIFESTYLE.

YOU CAN REDUCE BREAST CANCER IN

WOMEN AND HEART DISEASE AND

DISEASES OF THE LIVER LIKE

CIRRHOSIS.

>> DO PEOPLE FIND THEMSELVES

USING SUGAR TO REPLACE ALCOHOL?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S IMPORTANT IF YOU ARE GOING

TO GIVE UP SOMETHING LIKE

ALCOHOL THAT YOU HAVE A PLAN IN

PLACE FOR HEALTHY BEHAVIORS THAT

YOU REPLACE THAT ALCOHOL WITH.

THINGS LIKE HAVING OTHER

BEVERAGES AROUND THAT YOU CAN BE

EXCITED ABOUT LIKE FLAVORS OF

SPARKLING WATER ON TREND RIGHT

NOW OR MAKING MOCKTAILS AT HOME.

THAT CAN GIVE YOU SOMETHING ELSE

THAT YOU CAN ENJOY IN PLACE OF

THE ALCOHOL SO YOU ARE NOT

TAKING IN COMFORT FOODS AND

SUGAR AND THINGS THAT ARE

WORKING AGAINST YOU IN THE LONG

RUN.

>> I WANT TO COME BACK TO THE

MOCKTAILS.

WHAT ARE YOUR TIPS TO STAY

MOTIVATED?

>> WHY ARE YOU DECIDING TO

ABSTAIN FROM ALCOHOL IN THE

MONTH OF JANUARY?

WHAT ARE YOUR OWN REASONS?

IT MIGHT BE CHALLENGING TO

MOTIVATE YOURSELF IF YOUR REASON

IS BECAUSE YOU SAW IT ON

Facebook.

YOU MIGHT MORE MOTIVATED IF YOU

THINK ABOUT YOUR DESIRE TO MAKE

LOSE WEIGHT OR REEXAMINE YOUR

RELATIONSHIP WITH ALCOHOL OR

EXPLORE OTHER ACTIVITIES AND SO

FORTH.

>> DOES IT HELP TO HAVE MAYBE A

BUDDY OR COMMUNITY DOING THE

SAME THING NOT JUST ON

Facebook BUT SOMETHING

SIMILAR?

>> THAT COULD BE HELPFUL.

I ADVISE MY PATIENTS WHEN THEY

ARE TALKING TO ME ABOUT SLOWING

DOWN OR STOPPING DRINKING BRING

PEOPLE INTO THIS WITH YOU.

LET YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND

THOSE THAT YOU TRUST KNOW SO

THEY CAN HELP YOU AND SUPPORT

YOU.

>> THE DRY WHY?

WHAT IS IT AND HOW CAN IT

MOTIVATE YOU?

>> IT IS WHAT DAN WAS SAYING

IT'S YOUR REASON FOR TAKING THIS

ON.

MAYBE YOU WANT TO BE A MORE

PRESENT PARENT HAVING A PICTURE

OF YOUR KIDS ON THE PHONE OR

FRIDGE TO REMIND YOU.

MAYBE IT IS A DAILY REMINDER TO

KEEP SAYING THAT IS WHY I'M

DOING THIS.

I CAN STAY STRONG AND GET

THROUGH THIS TIME.

>> AND DAN WHAT IF SOMEONE

REALIZES THAT THEY DO NEED HELP?

>> I WOULD SAY THE FIRST PLACE

TO START TO TALK TO YOUR

PHYSICIAN.

THAT IS PROBABLY THE FIRST PLACE

TO START FOR MOST PEOPLE.

REACH OUT TO THEM AND LET THEM

KNOW WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE AND

GO FROM THERE.

>> AND JEN, WE HAVE TO LEAVE

EVERYBODY WITH THE MOCKTAIL.

RECIPE TO TRY AT HOME?

>> YES.

I LOVE A FAUX HITO.

SPARKLING WATER, LIME FLAVORED

AND THE LIME AND THE MINT IN THE

GLASS AND SOMETHING SWEET YOU

CAN DO LEMON LIME SODA OR DO

HONEY, SUGAR OR AGAVEY TO GIVE

IT A SWEET TASTE AND MAKE THAT

REFRESHING MINT AND LIME STAND

OUT.

>> SOUNDS REFRESHING AND WE HAVE

EXAMPLES ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL.

JEN BRUNING AND DANIEL FRIDBERG

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> AND YOU CAN VISIT OUR WEBSITE

FOR OTHER MOCKTAIL RECIPES AND

TIPS TO STAY MOTIVATED.

>>> AND FROM DOWNTON ABBEY TO

DOWNTOWN CHICAGO, A BRITISH

ACTOR HAS BROUGHT HIS ACTING

SKILLS FROM THE TV SCREEN TO THE

STAGE.

"CHICAGO TONIGHT" CAUGHT UP WITH

BRENDAN COYLE FOR HIS LOCAL

DEBUT AT THE GOODMAN THEATER.

EDDIE ARRUZA HAS THAT STORY.

>> I'M JOHN BASE.

>> ON DOWNTON ABBEY, BRENDAN

COYLE MADE A MEMORABLE

IMPRESSION AS Mr. JOHN BATES.

THROUGH SIX SEASONS OF THE HIT

SERIES THE CHARACTER EARNS THE

RESPECT OF THE STAFF AMID

THREATENING ACCUSATIONS AND A

BUDDING ROMANCE.

WE ASKED THE ACTOR ABOUT THE

EXPERIENCE OF PLAYING A KEY ROLE

IN THE DOWNTON ABBEY ENSEMBLE.

>> IT WAS PHENOMENAL WE DON'T

UNDERSTAND IT.

WE HAD THREE SCRIPTS THREE FIRST

EPISODES AND THIS IS NOT GOING

TO WORK.

AND IT WAS GOOD STORIES.

WE THOUGHT IT WOULD DO ALL RIGHT

BUT IT TIPPED INTO SOMETHING

ELSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT

TIPPING POINT IS AND YOU CANNOT

BOTTLE IT.

IT BECAME A GLOBAL THING.

AND IT'S BEEN A GREAT RIDE.

WHAT A GIG.

EVERYONE LIKES TO BE IN A HIT.

>> ARE WE ALL RIGHT?

>> OF COURSE.

>> THE SUCCESS OF DOWNTON

FOLLOWS HIM AROUND THE WORLD.

>> WHEN I GOT HERE I TURNED ON

THE TV AND THERE IT WAS ON PBS.

IT CONTINUES WE WRAPPED THE

MOVIE IN NOVEMBER.

THE STORY CONTINUES.

I WAS A CHARACTER.

FAMOUS IN ALL THE WRONG WAYS.

>> COYLE IS CURRENTLY AT THE

GOODMAN THEATER PORTRAYING A

THEATER CRITIC HAUNTED BY

PERSONAL DEMONS AND POSSIBLY

VAMPIRES.

THE PLAY IS ST. NICHOLAS BY THE

IRISH PLAYWRIGHT CONNER

MacPHERSON WHO HAS A PENCHANT

FOR THE SUPERNATURAL.

>> HE IS ONE OF THE MOST

MONSTEROUS CREATIONS AND WHY HE

CHOSE A THEATER CRITIC I DON'T

KNOW.

MAYBE SOMETHING GOING ON.

BUT HE IS PRETTY AWFUL AND

DISILLUSIONED AND FULL OF SELF

LOATHING AND LOBILITYING FOR THE

PEOPLE HE CRITICIZES AND FULL OF

ENVY FOR THE ARTS.

HE IS A FRUSTRATED WRITER

HIMSELF.

HIS MARRIAGE IS IN DECLINE.

HIS KIDS DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO

DO WITH HIM.

>> AS THE LONE ACTOR IN THE SHOW

BRENDAN COYLE DIRECTLY ADDRESSES

THE AD YEBS.

>> WE ALL TAKE PART IN THIS

CONVENTION.

AND YOU WILL SAY THEY ARE NOT

VERY BELIEVABLE, ARE THEY?

THESE VAMPIRES.

>> THIS SPACE IS A BEAUTIFUL

SPACE AND IT GIVES US OUR TEAM

THE ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH

PEOPLE IN DIRECT WAY.

AND DIRECT ADDRESS ALLOWS THE

STORY TO UNLOCK THINGS IN

PEOPLE'S MINDS.

IT'S YEAH, IT IS IMMEDIATE.

WE BREAK THAT FOURTH WALL.

IT IS A TWO-HANDER IT'S ME AND

THE AUDIENCE.

AND THE ENERGY IS DIFFERENT

EVERY NIGHT.

CHICAGOANS HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC

THEY GET THE HUMOR.

THE QUALITY OF THE LISTENING TO

THE PIECE HAS BEEN AMAZING.

GRATIFYING FOR ALL OF US.

>> COYLE SEES THE PLAYWRIGHT'S

PLOT AS SOMETHING OF A METAPHOR.

>> IT IS A THEME.

IT'S A SENSE OF LONGING.

A DESIRE TO CONNECT THAT WE ALL

HAVE IN POST CATHOLIC IRELAND HE

STILL WRITES ABOUT SPIRITS AND

ANOTHER WORLD AND THE WORLD

FASCINATED BY AND TRAN SEND SI,

GHOST STORIES AND THE

SUPERNATURAL THE THEMES THAT RUN

THROUGH HIS WORK AND IT FREAKS

ALL OF US WE ARE ALL LOOKING FOR

ANSWERS AND A WAY TO CONNECT AND

UNDERSTAND AND SOMETHING THAT HE

USES BEAUTIFULLY.

SOMETIMES IT IS A WAY TO BRING

PEOPLE IN TO TELL A TRUTH OR GET

TO THE HEART OF SOMETHING.

BUT IT IS A CAPTIVATING WAY OF

STORYTELLING.

USING THE ANCIENT ART OF IRISH

STORYTELLING AND SPINS IN A

MODERN WAY.

>> HE MAY BE THE ONLY PERFORMER

IN THIS SHOW BUT WE ASKED AGAIN

ABOUT THE FAMOUS ENSEMBLE AND

THE DOWNTON ABBEY MOVIE

SCHEDULED TO OPEN IN THEATERS IN

SEPTEMBER.

>> WELL IT IS A DIRECT

CONTINUATION FROM THE LAST TIME

WE SAW ALL THE CHARACTERS.

IT DOESN'T EMBRACE ANY

PARTICULAR HISTORIC EVENT LIKE

THE TITANIC OR WORLD WAR I THAT

WE INCORPORATED.

IT IS A STORY ABOUT WHAT IS

HAPPENING TO THAT FAMILY.

THERE IS A ROYAL VISIT.

IT WILL BE GRAND AND IT WILL

LOOK AMAZING.

>> UNTIL THEN YOU CAN SEE HIM IN

A ROLE THAT IS SEPARATE FROM

Mr. BATES.

>> IF YOU COME TO THIS IT IS

BECAUSE YOU ARE A FAN AND YOU

ARE IN FOR A DIFFERENT

EXPERIENCE.

>> FOR "CHICAGO TONIGHT" I'M

EDDIE ARRUZA.

>> ST. NICHOLAS IS AT THE

GOODMAN THEATER UNTIL JANUARY

27TH.

HEAR MORE FROM ACTOR BRENDAN

COYLE ON OUR WEBSITE.

AND WE'RE BACK WITH MORE RIGHT

AFTER THIS.

>> EVERY OTHER YEAR CHICAGO

TEMPORARILY BECOMES THE PUPPET

CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.

THAT'S WHEN THE CHICAGO

INTERNATIONAL PUPPET THEATER

FESTIVAL BRINGS IN PUPPET

ARTISTS FROM AROUND THE WORLD TO

PERFORM SHOWS ACROSS THE CITY

FOR KIDS AND ADULTS.

2019 MARKS THE THIRD EDITION OF

THE BIENNIAL FESTIVAL AND

ARTISTS ARE HERE FROM JAPAN,

FRANCE, CAL CHILLY

CHILE AND ISRAEL.

WE WELCOME HEATHER HENSON AND TY

DEFOE.

>> THE SHOW THAT YOU CO-DIRECTED

KICKS OFF THE FESTIVAL TELL US

ABOUT "AJIJAAK ON TURTLE

ISLAND".

>> A STORY WE HAVE BEEN WORKING

ON FOR YEARS AND IT IS ABOUT A

WHOPPING CRANE AND A WHOPPING

CRANE ON THE FIRST MIGRATION

TRAVELING ALL THE WAY FROM

CANADA DOWN TO TEXAS AND BACK ON

THE FIRST MIGRATION.

AND IT --

>> ALONG THE WAY, SHE MEETS

INDIGENOUS PEOPLE WHO ARE

STEWARDS IN TAKING CARE OF THE

EARTH OF THE PAST AND THE

PRESENT AND GIVING MESSAGES FOR

FUTURE GENERATIONS TO COME ABOUT

THE SUSTAINABILITY AND HOW TO

TAKE CARE OF THE EARTH.

>> AND "AJIJAAK ON TURTLE

ISLAND" IS ON TURTLE ISLAND

WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM?

>> TURTLE ISLAND IS REFERRED TO

BY FIRST NATIONS PEOPLE,

NATIVE-AMERICAN PEOPLE AS THE

UNITED STATES, CANADA AND ALSO

MEXICO.

IF YOU GOOGLE GO ON GOOGLE

SEARCH YOU CAN SEE THE ENTIRE

CONTINENT IS THE SHAPE OF A

TURTLE'S BACK.

FROM HER MIGRATION FLIGHT WE

THOUGHT GREAT TO PLACE IT ON THE

LAND IN WHICH SHE IS FLYING

OVER.

>> AND HEATHER YOU ARE AN

ENVIRONMENTALIST AND IT SEEMS

THAT WORK IS REFLECTED IN THIS

WORK.

HOW DO THE TWO COME TOGETHER?

>> ALL MY SHOWS HAVE BEEN ABOUT

THE ENVIRONMENT AND HIGHLIGHTING

HOW PEOPLE CAN LIVE

SUSTAINABLELY ON THE LAND AND

LIVE IN HARMONY WITH OUR

ENVIRONMENT AND THE ANIMALS THAT

WE ALL SHARE THE SPACE WITH.

SO I COULDN'T DO THE SHOW

WITHOUT WORKING WITH THE STORIES

FROM THE FIRST NATIONS PEOPLE

THAT ARE FROM THIS LAND WE ARE

ON INDIGENOUS LAND SO LOOKING AT

THAT LIFESTYLE AND TELLING THE

STORY OF THE CRANE.

SO THE CRANE AND IN PARTICULAR

THE WHOPPING CRANE IS THE

LARGEST BIRD IN NORTH AMERICA

AND THE MOST RARE OF ALL SPECIES

OF BIRDS IS THE WHOPPING CRANE

ON THIS CONSISTENT THIS BIRD

RAPIDLY DECLINED AT THE TIME OF

COLONIZATION AND WENT DOWN TO

LESS THAN 20 BIRDS WERE LEFT BUT

THEN THE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN

RISING AND IT IS A BIRD THAT IS

COMING BACK AND WITH STRENGTH

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN

WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS

BIRD COMING BACK IN THE GREAT

NUMBERS.

>> TELL US ABOUT YOUR BACK

STORY.

YOU ARE FROM THE MIDWEST.

>> I AM.

I GREW UP IN NORTHERN WISCONSIN.

AND SO SOME OF MY BACK STORY IS

THAT THROUGHOUT WISCONSIN YOU

KNOW GROWING UP LEARNING ABOUT

ORAL STORIES FROM TRADITIONAL

ELDERS AND THEN ALSO AAS AN

ARTIST MAKING MY CONTEMPORARY

ART I HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE

STATE OF WISCONSIN.

SOMEWHAT IN CHICAGO AND IN

MICHIGAN AND MINNESOTA, BECAUSE

I FROM THE ONEIDA NATION THE

NATURAL HOMELANDS TO MY PEOPLE I

HAVE A STRONG CONNECTION TO THE

GREAT LAKES AREA HAVING MEMORIES

OF BEING A CHILD GROWING UP

THERE AND ALSO IT'S IMPORTANT

BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF

WATER AND HOW WE NEED TO STEWARD

OVER WATER.

>> AND YOU ALSO HAVE THAT GRAMMY

AWARD.

TELL US ABOUT THE WORK THAT

EARNED THAT AWARD?

>> YEAH, WELL, YOU KNOW, GROWING

UP IN WISCONSIN, AND SORT OF

COLLABORATING WITH WONDERFUL

ARTISTS, YOU KNOW, LIKE HEATHER

AND OTHER FOLKS LIKE OUR DESIGN

TEAM AND THE ACTORS AND

PERFORMERS IN IT, I AM A

FLUTIST, I DO DRUMMING AND

SINGING AND VOCAL ROLES AND THAT

IS MY BACKGROUND IS IN THE WORLD

MUSIC WHERE I MET ARTISTS AND WE

TRAVELED AROUND THE WORLD DOING

CULTURAL EXCHANGES AND VARIOUS

WAYS TO TELL THE STORIES WHETHER

IT IS THROUGH SONG, DANCE OR

THEATER.

>> AND HEATHER WE WOULD BE

REMISS IF WE DID NOT ASK YOU

ABOUT JIM HENSON CREATOR OF THE

MUPPETS AND MORE.

AND WE HAVE A PICTURE OF YOU

WITH YOUR FATHER IN 1978.

WHAT WAS IT LIKE COMING FROM

SUCH A CREATIVE FAMILY?

>> IN THAT PARTICULAR PICTURE IS

FROM THE OPENING OF THE CENTER

FOR PUPPETRY ARTS IN ATLANTA.

I WAS SEVEN YEARS OLD.

>> AND YOUR FATHER JIM MEN SON

IS IN THE HENSON IS IN THE

MIDDLE KERMIT.

>> AND THAT IS MY FAMILY.

THERE'S FIVE SIBLINGS IN THE

FAMILY.

I GREW UP IN A GREAT FAMILY

CREATIVE AND MY DAD LOVED THE

ART FORM OF PUPPETRY, AND HE

SUPPORTED OTHER ARTISTS AND

MADE --

LOOK AT THAT.

YEAH.

AND SO HE LOVED THE ART FORM AND

ACTUALLY WAS INVOLVED IN THE

PUPPET COMMUNITY THAT IS

EXCITING THAT THIS PUPPET

FESTIVAL IS HIGHLIGHTING THE

WIDING BREADTH OF WHAT IT CAN

BE.

AND SEE ALL THE STYLES OUT

THERE.

MY DAD ABOUT ONE STYLE AND

BECAME FAMOUS FOR THE STYLE BUT

HE DID TRY WORKED OTHER STYLES

IN AND THEN IN HIS GENRE OF

PUPPETRY HE DID WORK MARIONETTES

IN AND OVERSIZED FULL LENGTH

STYLE PUPPETRY.

AND IT WAS A VERY CREATIVE

FAMILY TO GROW UP IN.

AND WE DID GET TO SEE HOW

BEAUTIFUL THE ART FORM WAS.

>> IS IT IN YOUR DNA?

WAS THERE A LOT OF PUT INDUSTRY

GOING ON IN THE HOUSE?

>> A LOT OF CREATIVITY.

CRAFTS.

HOLIDAYS WERE ABOUT PUMPKIN

CARVING IN EXTREME WAY AND

EASTER EGG DYEING WAS ELABORATE.

AND WHEN WENT TO VISIT MY DAD ON

THE SETS AND GOING TO PUPPET

FESTIVALS.

>> TY WHAT ARE SOME OF THE

CHALLENGES

CHALLENGES IN PRESENTING PUT

INDUSTRY TO 21ST CENTURY

AUDIENCES?

>> I THINK SOME OF THE

CHALLENGES ARE I GUESS SORT OF

UNVEILING WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT

MAYBE PUT INDUSTRY OR THEATER OR

ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE KNOW.

LIKE THE IDEA IS THAT SOME OF

THE CHALLENGES FACED ARE

PRESENTING PUPPETRY MAYBE IN A

NEW WAY AND STORIES IN A NEW WAY

TALKING ABOUT CROSS CULTURAL

LEARNING WITHIN MUSIC AND ART

FORMS THAT THESE THINGS HAVE

EXISTED FOR 500 YEARS PLUS

BEYOND HUMAN BEINGS THAT WE ARE

TALKING ABOUT ECOSYSTEMS AND

NATURE HAVING THEIR FORMS OF

PUPPETRY WHEN YOU WALKOUT INTO

THE WOODS AND TREES THERE ARE

THINGS THAT EXISTED BEFORE HUMAN

SPECIES EVER WALKED THE EARTH.

WHEN YOU TAKE A BIG CONCEPT LIKE

THAT AND TALK ABOUT TELLING

STORIES I THINK LIKE THE IDEA

TRYING TO GET THESE NEW IDEAS

ACROSS THAT HAVE EXISTED FROM

THE PAST.

>> HEATHER HENSON AND TY DEFOE

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AND THE CHICAGO INTERNATIONAL

PUPPET THEATER FESTIVAL RUNS

THROUGH JANUARY 27TH AT MULTIPLE

LOCATIONS.

AND THERE'S MUCH MORE ON OUR

WEBSITE AND WE WILL BE RIGHT

BACK AFTER THIS.

>> AND THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR THIS

THURSDAY NIGHT.

STAY CONNECTED BY SIGN UP FOR

YOUR DAILY BRIEFING.

AND JOIN US TOMORROW NIGHT LIVE

AT 7:00 P.M. FOR A SPECIAL

EDITION OF THE WEEK IN REVIEW.

>> WE'LL BRING YOU ANALYSIS

FOLLOWING TOMORROW'S SENTENCING

OF FORMER CHICAGO COP JASON VAN

DYKE.

>> FOR ALL OF US AT "CHICAGO

TONIGHT" I'M BRANDIS FRIEDMAN.

>> AND I'M PARIS SCHUTZ AND I

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.

GOOD NIGHT.

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