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>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO
"CHICAGO TONIGHT."
>> THERE IS A FINDING OF NOT
GUILTY AS TO EVERY COUNT IN EACH
DEFENDANT OF CONSPIRACY,
OFFICIAL MISCONDUCT AND
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
>> A COOK COUNTY JUDGE
ACQUITINGS POLICE OFFICERS OF
ALL CHARGES IN AN ALLEGED COVER
UP TO PROTECT JASON VAN DYKE IN
THE LAQUAN McDONALD SHOOTING.
>> EVERYBODY BUT THE
AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THE COUNTY.
>> AND THE BACKLASH OF THE
VERDICT HAS BEGUN.
A LOOK AT WHAT IT MAY MEAN
MOVING FORWARD.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE
ARE DOING AT O'HARE TO MAKE SURE
THAT O'HARE STAYS THE BEST
AIRPORT IN THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA.
>> INSIDE THE FIVE PROPOSALS TO
REDESIGN O'HARE'S TERMINAL 2 AS
PART OF THE $8.5 BILLION
EXPANSION PLAN.
COULD MARIJUANA HELP KEEP PEOPLE
OFF OF OPIOIDS IN LIGHT OF
STARTLING OVERDOSE NUMBERS?
AND SWAPPING THE COCKTAIL FOR A
MOCK TAIL IS PART OF A TREND
CALLED DRY JANUARY WE DRINK IN
THE DETAILS OF THE FAD AND
POTENTIAL BENEFITS.
>> THESE ARE ARE THE ANCIENT
STORYTELLING AND SPINS IN A
MODERN WAY.
>> BRENDAN COYLE TALKING ABOUT
HIS NEW SHOW AT THE GOODMAN
THEATER AND THE EXPERIENCE OF
PLAYING A KEY ROLE IN DOWNTON
ABBEY.
AND HEATHER HENSON TALKS ABOUT
THE PUPPET THEATER FESTIVAL AND
GROWING UP AS THE DAUGHTER OF
JIM HENSON.
ALL THAT AND MORE NEXT ON
"CHICAGO TONIGHT."
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>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND
THANKS FOR READING THAT I'M
PARIS SCHUTZ.
FIRST EXPLORING TODAY'S VERDICT
IN THE POLICE CONSPIRACY TRIAL.
BRANDIS BEGINS OUR COVERAGE.
>> AND PARIS, COOK COUNTY JUDGE
DOMENICA STEPHENSON TODAY
ACQUITTED THREE POLICE OFFICERS
OF CONSPIRING TO COVER UP THE
CONTROVERSIAL CIRCUMSTANCES
SURROUNDING THE FATAL SHOOTING
OF TEENAGER LAQUAN McDONALD IN
2014.
THE TRIAL SHONE A BRIGHT LIGHT
ON A CODE OF SILENCE THAT
OPERATES WITHIN THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND THEY SAY IT
PREVENTS OFFICERS GILLFY OF
WRONGDOING FROM BEING HELD
ACCOUNTABLE.
MATT MASTERSON JOINS US NOW.
WHAT HAPPENED IN COURT AND HOW
DID THE JUDGE GO ABOUT MAKING
HER FINDINGS?
>> THE JUDGE SPOKE FOR AN HOUR
AND MADE IT CLEAR EARLY ON THAT
THE VERDICT WAS NOT GOING TO GO
AGAINST THESE MEN.
DOMENICA STEPHENSON WALKED
THROUGH THE PROSECUTOR'S CASE
GOING THROUGH THE BACKGROUND
HERE AND SHE CONTINUALLY POINTED
OUT HOW THE PROSECUTORS FAILED
TO PROVE THEIR CASE.
SHE DISMISSED DASH-CAM VIDEO
EVIDENCE THAT SHOWED THE
SHOOTING SAYING IT DID NOT
MATCHUP WITH WHAT JASON VAN DYKE
THE OFFICER WHO SHOT LAQUAN
McDONALD AND JOSEPH WALSH HIS
PARTNER CHARGED WERE SEEING
DURING THE SHOOTING.
AND SHE DISMISSED THE TESTIMONY
OF SOME OF THE STATE'S WITNESSES
INCLUDING DOROTHY DORA TO BE TAD
TESTIFIED THAT DAVID MARCH THE
LEAD DETECTIVE ALSO A DEFENDANT
HAD FABRICATED A STATEMENT AND
ATTRIBUTED IT TO HER IN THE
OFFICIAL REPORT.
THE JUDGE DID NOT FIND HER TO BE
A CREDIBLE WITNESS CITING
CONFLICTING TESTIMONY THAT
FONTAINE HAD GIVEN IN THE PAST.
SHE SAYS IT CAME DOWN TO WHETHER
THESE MEN LIED IN OFFICIAL
REPORTS IN AN EFFORT TO COVER
FOR JASON VAN DYKE AND MAKE SURE
HE WAS NOT GOING TO FACE A
CRIMINAL PROSECUTION.
AND EVERY ATTORNEY I HAVE SPOKEN
TO TALKS ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT A
CASE OF CONSPIRACY IS TO PROVE.
AND JUDGE DOMENICA STEPHENSON'S
MADE IT CLEAR THAT SHE WAS NOT
BUYING THE PROSECUTOR'S CASE.
>> AND AFTER THE JUDGE'S
VERDICT, THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY
AND PATRICIA HOLMES SHARED THEIR
REACTION.
>> SHE HEARD EVERY WORD OF THE
TESTIMONY IN THIS TRIAL AND
CONCLUDED AS WE DID A YEAR
BEFORE THAT THERE NEVER WAS A
CASE HERE.
DESPITE ALL OF THE INTEREST THAT
ALL YOU HAVE, THERE NEVER EVER
WAS A CASE.
>> WE, OF COURSE, DISAGREE WITH
THE RULING.
BUT WE RESPECT THE RULING.
IT IS THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT
OF INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE A TRIAL
BY JUDGE OR A TRIAL BY JURY.
WE DO HOPE THAT THIS HAS BEEN A
CRACK IN THE WALL OF THE CODE OF
SILENCE.
AND THAT OTHERS WILL THINK TWICE
ABOUT ENGAGING IN CONDUCT THAT
MIGHT LAND THEM IN AN
INVESTIGATION SUCH AS THIS.
>> AND MATT, WHAT WAS THE
REACTION INSIDE THE COURTROOM
AFTER THE VERDICT WAS ANNOUNCED?
>> DURING THE HEARING THE MEN
WERE STRAIGHT-FACED AND SOMBER.
DAVID MARCH ONE OF THE
DEFENDANTS WAS CRACKING JOKES
BUT THE REST WERE STONE FACED
AND THAT CHANGED ONCE THE JUDGE
MADE HER RULING.
THERE WERE SMILES AND HANDSHAKES
AMONG THE DEFENDANTS AND
ATTORNEYS AND CLAPPING IN THE
COURTROOM.
AND PLENTY OF POLICE SUPPORTERS
THERE WITH THEM AND DURING THE
TRIAL YOU COULD HEAR SOME OF THE
PROSECUTORS REALIZE HOW THE CASE
WAS GOING TO GO.
I WAS NEXT TO THE TABLE AND YOU
COULD HEAR THE SIGHS AS THE
JUDGE POKED HOLES IN THEIR CASE
AND SIDED WITH THE DEFENSE.
AND SOME WERE EXPRESSING A FEAR
THAT THE VERDICT COMING ONE DAY
BEFORE JASON VAN DYKE IS
SENTENCED COULD HAVE AN IMPACT
ON WHAT SENTENCE HE DOES
RECEIVE.
>> AND ACTIVISTS INCLUDING
LAQUAN McDONALD'S UNCLE SAID
THE VERDICT REENFORCES A CODE OF
SILENCE WITHIN THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
>> IT SOLIDIFIES IT AND IT
BOLSTERS IT AND IT KEEPS IT
INTACT AND IN PLAY.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED A CODE OF
SILENCE TO HAVE A CIVILIZED
JUSTICE SYSTEM IN THE COUNTRY OF
AMERICA.
>> THIS JUDGE TOLD US OUR LYING
EYES DID NOT SEE WHAT WE SAW.
THAT IS AN INSULT TO THE
INTELLIGENCE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE WANT JUSTICE FOR LAQUAN
McDONALD.
GO VOTE.
TURN THIS TRAGIC INCIDENT INTO
POLITICAL POWER.
THAT'S WHAT WE IMMEDIATE TO DO.
I'M NOT SAYING TAKE TO THE
STREETS.
IT'S TIME FOR US TO TAKE TO THE
POLLS.
>> AND THE FROM TERNAL ORDER OF
POLICE HAVE BEEN BEHIND THE
OFFICERS HOW DID THEY RECEIVE
THE VERDICT?
>> THEY WERE PLEASED WITH THE
RESULT OF THIS.
FOP REPRESENTATIVES HAVE BEEN IN
THE COURT THROUGHOUT THE TRIAL
AND THROUGH JASON VAN DYKE'S
TRIAL AND THEY SAW IT BEING
BASELESS AND THERE WAS UNDUE
PRESSURE PUT ON FOR A CONVICTION
BASED ON MEDIA REPORTS AND
PRESSURE THAT WENT ON WITH THE
CASE.
BUT WITH THE ACQUITTAL THE UNION
BELIEVES THE CASE COULD HAVE A
CHILLING EFFECT ON THE OFFICERS
IN THE STREET AFTER SEEING THE
MEN WHAT THEY SAID WAS BY THE
BOOK INVESTIGATION FOLLOWING THE
SHOOTING OF LAQUAN McDONALD
THEY WERE BROUGHT ON CHARGES
EVEN THOUGH THEY DID NOTHING
WRONG.
>> AND KEVIN GRAHAM SAYS THE
TRIAL SHOULD NEVER HAVE TAKEN
PLACE.
>> THESE THREE OFFICERS SPENT
THEIR CAREERS SERVING THE
CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF CHICAGO.
FOR THAT WE HAVE SEEN THEIR
NAMES DRAGGED THROUGH THE MUD ON
A BASELESS CRIMINAL TRUMPED UP
CASE BY THE SPECIAL PROSECUTOR,
PATRICIA HOLMES.
THERE WAS NO CONSPIRACY AND
THERE WAS NO CODE OF SILENCE.
>> AND ADDITIONALLY OFFICER
JOSEPH WALSH DID HAVE A FEW
WORDS TO SAY TO THE MEDIA WHEN
ASKED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE
TRIAL.
>> HEART WRENCHING WERE
HEARTBREAKING FOR MY FAMILY.
A YEAR-AND-A-HALF.
>> WHAT HAS BEEN THE MOST
DIFFICULT PART?
>> I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY.
>> AND MATT S. THERE ANYTHING
FURTHER THAT CAN COME FROM THIS
CASE?
>> NO, THE MEN HAVE BEEN
ACQUITTED SO THERE WILL NOT BE
AN APPEAL AND THEY CANNOT BE
RETRIED.
MARCH AND WALSH LEFT THE FORCE.
AND THOMAS GAFFNEY, THE OTHER
DEFENDANT, HE WAS REPORTEDLY
REINSTATED TODAY HE HAD BEEN
SUSPENDED WHILE THE CASE WAS
ONGOING.
>> MATT, THANK YOU AND WE KNOW
YOU WILL BE BACK IN COURT FOR
TOMORROW'S STEPSING OF FORMER
OFFICER JASON VAN DYKE FOR
SECOND DEGREE MURDER IN THE
DEATH OF LAQUAN McDONALD.
YOU CAN FOLLOW MATT'S COVERAGE
ON OUR WEBSITE AND WATCH THE
SENTENCING HEARING STARTING AT
9:00 A.M.
BACK TO PARIS FOR MORE ON
TODAY'S VERDICT AND THE
POTENTIAL IMPACT ON CHICAGO
POLICE.
>> WHAT IMPACT, IF ANY, WILL
TODAY'S VERDICT HAVE ON REFORM
AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
ENDING WITH SOME SEE AS A CODE
OF SILENCE?
THE ANSWER TO THOSE QUESTIONS
REMAIN UP IN THE AIR AND GIVEN
THE RULING WHAT IS THE STATUS OF
EFFORTS TO IMPROVE THE
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN POLICE AND
THE COMMUNITIES THEY SERVE?
JOINING US TO SHARE THEIR
PERSPECTIVES ARE SHARON SHARON Y
CRAIG FUTTERMAN, A CLINICAL LAW
PROFESSOR AND POLICING EXPERT AT
THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO LAW
SCHOOL, GAL PISSETZKY OF THE AND
PETER KOCONIS A RETIRED CHICAGO
POLICE SERGEANT WELCOME ALL OF
YOU.
FIRST, SHARON FAIRLEY DID THE
JUDGE REACH THE CORRECT VERDICT?
>> I WAS NOT AT THE TRIAL AND I
WAS NOT THERE FOR THE
PRESENTATION OF EVIDENCE I WILL
NOT JUDGE HER RULING.
BUT I THINK WE CAN TAKE AWAY
FROM THIS IS THESE CASES ARE
REALLY DIFFICULT TO BRING AND
CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS OF POLICE
OFFICERS ARE RARE.
CHICAGO IS NOT UNUSUAL FROM THAT
VANTAGE POINT.
BUT THE KEY THING IS WE NEED TO
MAKE SURE THAT THE SYSTEM WE
HAVE IN PLACE CAN PREVENT THIS
FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE AND
THAT IS WHERE OUR FOCUS SHOULD
BE FROM THIS POINT ON IS LOOKING
TO THE DEPARTMENT WHAT CHANGES
ARE WE MAKING TO MAKE SURE WE
HAVE SOME SYSTEMIC PREVENTIONS
IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THIS
CANNOT HAPPEN AGAIN.
>> CRAIG FUTTERMAN YOU HAVE BEEN
INVOLVED IN THE CASE FROM THE
BEGINNING WERE YOU SURPRISED
FROM THE VERDICT?
>> SADLY I WAS NOT SURPRISED.
BUT WHAT I WAS SURPRISED BY HOW
PAINFUL IT WAS TO ACTUALLY
LISTEN TO THE JUDGE GIVE THAT
VERDICT.
BECAUSE WHAT I WOUND UP HEARING
FROM THE JUDGE AND THIS WILL NOT
MAKE ME POPULAR AMONG JUDGES OR
LAWYERS WAS WHAT SOUNDED LIKE
FROM A JUDGE, A FULL THROATED
DEFENSE, THE FULL THROATED
DEFENSE OF NOT ONLY THE COVER UP
BUT ACTUALLY OF THE MURDER OF
LAQUAN McDONALD.
IT SOUNDED LIKE I WAS LISTENING
TO THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY THERE.
THIS WAS AN HISTORIC CASE AND AN
HISTORIC PROSECUTION.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS IT
HAPPENED IS PEOPLE STOOD UP AND
PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY FORCED
THE RELEASE OF THIS VIDEO.
AND AS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT
I HEARD, IT WAS AS THOUGH
EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE ALL SEEN
WITH OUR OWN EYES WAS NOT TRUE.
THIS IN MY VIEW IS A REAL
TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE TODAY AND
WHEN THERE WAS AN HISTORIC
OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A REAL DENT
IN THE CODE OF SILENCE SO THAT
OFFICERS WILL THINK TWICE LIKE
IS THIS REALLY WORTH IT?
IS IT REALLY WORTH IT TO COVER
UP FOR A FELLOW OFFICER WHEN
IT'S MY JOB AND IT COULD BE MY
FREEDOM ON THE LINE.
>> CLEARLY THE JUDGE RULED THERE
WAS NO COVER UP.
GAL PISSETZKY SHE SAYS TWO
PEOPLE WITH TWO DIFFERENT
VANTAGE POINTS CAN DESCRIBE THE
SAME EVENT DIFFERENTLY AND NOT
BE LYING.
IS IT BELIEVABLE THAT THE
OFFICERS SAW A DIFFERENT LAQUAN
McDONALD THAN WE SAW ON THE
DASH-CAM VIDEO BECAUSE OF THEIR
WHERE THEY WERE SITUATED?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
WHEN YOU ARE AT THE SCENE OF A
CRIME OR THE SCENE WHEN YOU
WATCH SOMETHING, TWO PEOPLE SEE
IT FROM TWO DIFFERENT VANTAGE
POINTS AND YOU HAVE THE CAMERA,
TOO, THAT WAS PLAYED OVER AND
OVER DURING THE VAN DYKE CASE
BUT IT WAS NOT THE VANTAGE POINT
THAT VAN DYKE SAW THINGS
HAPPENING EITHER.
I THINK THE CAMERA IS A LITTLE
MISLEADING IN THE WAY THAT THE
CAMERA WAS PORTRAYED IN THE VAN
DYKE CASE IS DIFFERENT THAN HOW
IT WAS IN THIS CASE.
AND YOU HAVE EYEWITNESSES THAT
SAW THINGS FROM A DIFFERENT
PERSPECTIVE.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE EYEWITNESS THAT
THE JUDGE DOMENICA STEPHENSON
DISCREDITED IN A WAY HE WAS
SITTING TWO CARS AWAY AND HE WAS
BEING TOLD TO TURN AROUND WASN'T
HAVING ANY INTERACTION WITH THE
OFFICERS.
AND THE IMPORTANT THING TO
REMEMBER IT WAS A CONSPIRACY
CASE WHERE THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY
AGREEMENTS OR EVIDENCE THAT
THESE OFFICERS ACTUALLY AGREED
TO COMMIT A CRIME.
>> PETER KOCONIS, HOW MUCH WOULD
A VERDICT LIKE THIS IMPACT
MORALE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT?
>> I THINK THE VERDICT IT WAS
RIGHT AND JUST VERDICT BECAUSE
THE JUDGE FOLLOWED THE LAW AND
FOLLOWED THE FACTS AND FOLLOWED
THE EVIDENCE.
AND TO SAY ANYTHING LESS IT
WOULD BE TERRIBLY WRONG.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE POLICE AND
THE BAD GUYS EVERYBODY HAS TO BE
TREATED FAIRLY.
AND YOU CAN'T TURN AROUND AND
SAY THAT THIS JUDGE MADE A
MISTAKE HERE OR THE JUDGE MADE A
MISTAKE THERE.
I THOUGHT SHE PRESENTED THE
DEFENSE FOR --
A VERDICT ON WHAT THESE OFFICERS
DID.
AND SHE WENT PAGE BY PAGE,
REPORT BY REPORT, THE GPR'S OF
THE DETECTIVES AND THE REPORTS
OF THE POLICE OFFICERS, AND
Mr. FUTTERMAN IS FRIENDS WITH
JAMIE CALVIN.
>> THE JOURNALIST WHO BROKE THIS
STORY.
>> MY PROBLEM THERE IS Mr.
CALVIN WAS GIVEN INFORMATION
REGARDING THIS CASE FROM
PRECKWINKLE WHEN THE JUDGE PUT A
SEAL ON THE CASE.
SO WHY IS HE SITTING THERE
GETTING INFORMATION THAT NOBODY
ELSE NO LAWYERS NO CIVILIANS,
THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY,
NONE OF THEM GOT ANY OF THAT
INFORMATION.
BUT PRECKWINKLE GAVE IT TO HER
FRIEND Mr. CALVIN.
>> SHE HAS BEEN FACING
QUESTIONS.
AND CRAIG FUTTERMAN I WANT TO
RETURN TO WHAT YOU SAID, THE
JUDGE DISAGREED WITH THE
CONCLUSIONS THAT THE JURY IN THE
VAN DYKE TRIAL CAME TO.
COULD THIS RULING AFFECT THAT
SENTENCING TOMORROW?
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
I THINK THE JUDGE GAUGHAN IS
GOING TO DO WHAT HE THINKS IS
FAIR AND JUST AND RIGHT.
AND I DON'T THINK HE WILL BE
IMPACTED BY WHAT HAPPENED TODAY.
I AM NOT MAKING PREDICTIONS BUT
I CAN SAY THAT JUDGE GAUGHAN IS
GOING TO TRY TO ARRIVE AT A
SENTENCE THAT HE BELIEVES, I MAY
NOT AGREE WITH IT, YOU MAY NOT
AGREE WITH IT, BUT I THINK HE IS
GOING TO TRY TO FIND A SENTENCE
THAT HE THINKS IS RIGHT.
>> SHARON FAIRLEY COULD A
VERDICT LIKE THIS IMPACT THE
APPEAL OF JASON VAN DYKE?
>> I DON'T REALLY THINK SO.
I THINK THEY ARE SEPARATE
MATTERS.
SO THIS IS REALLY A DIFFERENT
QUESTION.
THIS CONSPIRACY CASE RATHER THAN
THE MURDER CASE.
I DON'T THINK SO THAT IS WHY I'M
FOCUSED ON WHAT THE SYSTEM, WHAT
WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THIS
DOESN'T HAPPEN.
WE KNOW WE HAVE A DEPARTMENT --
POLICE OFFICERS DO NOT LIKE
CALLING EACH OTHER OUT.
IT'S JUST REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE
FOR THEM.
SO WHAT ARE WE DOING TO CHANGE
THAT CULTURE?
WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MAKE SURE
THAT THEY BECOME COMFORTABLE
WITHHOLDING EACH OTHER
ACCOUNTABLE?
THAT IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND
NEEDS TO CHANGE ABOUT THIS
DEPARTMENT AND WE NEED TO HAVE
SYSTEMS IN PLACE AND PROTOCOLS
IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT
HAPPENS.
>> AND YOU WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN
TRYING TO LEAD THE REFORM
EFFORTS.
GAL PISSETZKY DO YOU THINK A
VERDICT LIKE THIS POURS COLD
WATER ON EFFORTS TO BRING
FORWARD A CONSENT DECREE AND
REFORM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT?
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
I THINK THE OFFICERS WROTE IN
REPORTS WHAT THEY SAW.
AND I THINK THESE OFFICERS ACTED
IN A WAY THAT ANY OFFICER SHOULD
ACT BECAUSE THEY PRESERVE THE
EVIDENCE.
WE DID HAVE THE TAPE.
WE DID HAVE ALL THE EVIDENCE
THAT THEY NEEDED TO PUT VAN DYKE
ON TRIAL.
THESE OFFICERS MAY HAVE HAD SOME
INCONSISTENCIES IN THEIR REPORTS
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE THEY SAID
THERE WAS A BATTERY AND THE
BATTERY WAS CHARGE IN THE VAN
DYKE'S CASE.
I DON'T THINK THAT WILL AFFECT
ANYTHING WITH THE REFORMS.
>> PETER KOCONIS, IS THERE A
CODE OF SILENCE ANYWHERE IN THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT?
CLEARLY THE JUDGE FOUND NOT IN
THIS CASE IS THERE A CULTURE OF
A CODE OF SILENCE?
>> I BELIEVE THAT GANGS DON'T
SNITCH ON EACH OTHER LAWYERS DO
NOT SNITCH ON EACH OTHER.
I THINK IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
WHEN I WORKED IN THE INTERM
AFFAIRS DIVISION I DON'T BELIEVE
THERE WAS A CODE OF SILENCE AND
EVERYONE BELIEVES THERE IS NOW.
POLICE WILL TURN IN A CORRUPT
POLICEMAN THAT IS HOW WE GOT
CONVICTIONS OF EXTORTION AND
ROBBERIES IN THE WATTS CASE AND
THE PACKMAN CASE.
IT WAS POLICEMEN WHO CAME
FORWARD THAT GAVE EVIDENCE AND
INFORMATION AGAINST OTHER
POLICEMEN.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO TELL ME IF I
CALL SOMEBODY WHAT THE VERN
KNACKLER OUT OF THEIR NAME OR
SWEAR ON SOMEBODY OUT OF THE
STREET AM I SUPPOSED TO TURN TO
MY PARTNER AND I WILL TELL THE
SERGEANT ON YOU?
IT IS A DIFFERENT WEIGHT THERE.
>> THEY ARE NOT GOING TO COVER
UP EXTORTION, MURDER, ROBBERY,
RAPE.
THE POLICEMEN UNFORTUNATELY I
PARTICIPATED IN INVESTIGATIONS
OF THEM, POLICEMEN CAME FORWARD
AND SAID THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.
BECAUSE POLICEMEN WHO ARE
CROOKED ARE PUTTING THE OTHER
POLICEMEN JOBS AND LIVES ON THE
LINE.
>> SHARON FAIRLEY HAS THAT BEEN
YOUR EXPERIENCE WHEN YOU LED
I.P.R.A. AND C.O.P.A. DO YOU
AGREE?
>> MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT THE
PROBLEMS THAT WE FACE IS THAT
THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS
THERE'S TOO MUCH OPPORTUNITY FOR
OFFICERS TO GET THEIR STORIES
STRAIGHT.
AND EVEN IF THERE IS NO
NEFARIOUS INTENT THERE IS
OPPORTUNITY.
THIS OCCURRED BACK WHEN THE RULE
DID NOT REQUIRE THAT OFFICERS BE
SEPARATED AFTER A SHOOTING.
SO THEY ALL WENT BACK TO THE
HEADQUARTERS TOGETHER AND SAT
DOWN AND TALKED ABOUT IT.
AND SO EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T
INTEND TO CONSPIRE TO MAKEUP A
STORY --
>> THERE IS A PERCEPTION
PROBLEM.
>> THEY HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY
ONE PERSON LISTENS TO WHAT THE
OTHER PERSON SAYS AND I WILL
ADOPT THE SAME STORY.
THESE ARE THE SYSTEMIC CHANGES
THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT
THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN.
>> HOW EQUIPPED IS THE CITY NOW
IN 2019 TO DEAL WITH THE
SITUATION LIKE THIS SHOULD IT
ARISE AGAIN AS OPPOSED TO WHEN
THIS CASE HAPPENED IN 2014?
>> I MEAN, THIS HIGHLIGHTS THE
NEED FOR THAT EXTERNAL REVIEW
THAT EXTERNAL OVERSIGHT AND AS
SHARON SAID WHAT IS GOING TO
HAPPEN NEXT?
C.P.D. HAS SHOWN THEY HAVE NOT
BEEN ABLE AND THEY ARE NOT TO
CHANGE ON THEIR OWN.
I AGREE AND DISAGREE WITH PETER
KOCONIS WHAT I AGREE WITH IS
THAT A CODE OF SILENCE AND
CORRUPT ACTIONS CRIMINAL ACTIONS
BY POLICE OFFICERS HURT GOOD
POLICE OFFICERS HONEST POLICE
OFFICERS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE
IN THE WORLD.
BUT WHAT I DISAGREE WITH IS
ABOUT OFFICERS COMING FORWARD.
EVEN IN THE CASES THAT YOU
TALKED ABOUT.
IN THE WATTS CASE, THE OFFICERS
WHO CAME FORWARD WHAT HAPPENED
TO THEM?
THEIR LIVES WERE MADE A LIVING
HELL BECAUSE THEY BROKE THE CODE
OF SILENCE.
AND WHAT HAPPENED A JURY FOUND
THE CODE OF SILENCE IN THE CASE
AND A.T.F. AGENTS LIVES WERE PUT
ON THE LINE BECAUSE THEY ARE
STUCK HER NECKS OUT.
AND SO THAT IS THE PROBLEM THAT
I HAVE WITH THE VERDICT ALSO IS
THAT NOT ONLY DOES IT SEND A BAD
MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY BUT IT
SENDS A BAD MESSAGE TO THE
OFFICERS DOING THEIR JOBS IN
THIS CASE, ITSELF, TOO IT WAS
SOMEONE WITHIN LAW ENFORCEMENT
WHO HAD THE COURAGE TO GIVE ME A
CALL TO SAY TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
THERE IS A VIDEO HERE SOMETHING
WRONG HAPPENED.
>> HOW COULD THIS VERDICT AFFECT
COMMUNITY-POLICE RELATIONS?
>> I THINK THE MAJOR THING WE
NEED IN THE COMMUNITY THAT
EVERYBODY IS SAYING NOW ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT, I THINK WE NEED THE
COMMUNITY TO COME FORWARD AND
TALK ABOUT THESE GANGS AND
SHOOTINGS AND SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO
GET THE COMMUNITIES TO
UNDERSTAND THAT THE POLICEMEN
THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE TRYING
TO DO THE RIGHT THING NEED THEIR
HELP.
THE POLICE NEED THE HELP OF THE
COMMUNITY IN ALL THESE INSTANCES
WITH THE RIDICULOUS AMOUNTS OF
3,000 SHOOTINGS AND 500 PEOPLE
KILLED.
IF NOBODY COMES FORWARD, AND
GIVES POLICE JUST --
GIVE ME A LEAD.
GIVE ME AN IDEA.
GIVE ME WHAT GANG.
GIVE ME ANYTHING.
>> CLEARLY A LOT OF MISTRUST.
>> BUT NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING AND
THE POLICEMEN I DON'T THINK
MISTRUST THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK THE POLICEMEN DON'T HAVE
INTERACTION WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND COMMUNITY POLICING NEVER
WORKED.
AND YOU HAVE TO GET BACK TO THE
BEAT OFFICER KNOWING THE PEOPLE
THAT HE IS WORKING FOR.
>> WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE AND
THIS IS A DISCUSSION TO BE
CONTINUED BUT SHARON FAIRLEY,
CRAIG FUTTERMAN AND GAL
PISSETZKY AND PETER KOCONIS
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
UP NEXT, BRANDIS UPDATES US ON
MORE OF THE DAY'S TOP STORIES.
>> MORE OF WHAT IS MAKING NEWS
IN CHICAGO TONIGHT.
FOR HIS SECOND BILL SIGNING NEW
GOVERNOR J.B. PRITZKER IS
REQUIRING GUN DEALERS IN
ILLINOIS TO HAVE A STATE
LICENSE.
THE LAW ATTEMPTS TO CRACKDOWN ON
ILLEGAL GUN PURCHASES BY
REQUIRING FIREARMS DEALERS TO
COMPLETE ANNUAL TRAINING, SAFELY
STORE WEAPONS TO PREVENT THEFT
AND HAVE EMPLOYEES UNDER GO
BACKGROUND CHECKS.
IT ALSO PROHIBITS GUN DEALERS
FROM OPENING A BUSINESS WITHIN
500 FEET OF A SCHOOL OR DAYCARE.
>> THERE ARE A LOT OF PROVISIONS
OF THIS LEGISLATION THAT DO MUCH
MORE THAN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
DOES.
AND THAT ARE AN EXPRESSION OF
THE VALUES OF THE PEOPLE OF
ILLINOIS THEY ARE JUST WRONG.
AND I WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE'RE STANDING UP TO THE
VOICES LIKE THE ILLINOIS STATE
RIFLE ASSOCIATION AND THE
NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION.
>> AND AND THE ILLINOIS STATE
RIFLE ASSOCIATION CONDEMNS THE
LAW SAYING IT IS UNNECESSARY
BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
ALREADY REGULATES FIREARMS
DEALERS AND THE COST OF
REGISTRATION WILL HURT SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERS.
SUPPORTERS SAY THAT FEDERAL
OVERSIGHT IS INSUFFICIENT.
>> TODAY, A TENANTS RIGHTS
ATTORNEY FOR R. KELLY IS SAYING
A CITY INSPECTION PROVES THIS
CLIENT'S CASE.
HE CLAIMS NO ONE IS LIVING IN
THE WAREHOUSE THAT THE SINGER
RENTS ON THE NEAR WEST SIDE.
THE CITY INSPECT TO DO
YESTERDAY, WEDNESDAY.
THE ATTORNEY CALLED THE
INSPECTION UNEVENTFUL AND ARGUES
THAT THERE WERE NO DANGEROUS OR
EMERGENCY CONDITIONS THAT SHOULD
HAVE WARRANTED THE CITY'S
EMERGENCY COMPLAINT.
TO THE CONTRARY THOSE INSPECTORS
YESTERDAY SAID THEY DID FIND
EVIDENCE OF RESIDENTIAL USE
WHICH IS NOT ZONED AS SUCH.
THE CASE IS BACK IN COURT ON
TUESDAY.
>> ILLINOIS STATE POLICE ARE
PREPARING TO LAY ONE TO REST
TOMORROW.
LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE PAYING
RESPECTS TO THE FAMILY OF
TROOPER CHRISTOPHER LAMBERT AT
WILLOW CREEK COMMUNITY CHURCH.
LAMBERT WAS KILLED WHEN STRUCK
BY I ACAR WHILE WORKING ON
ANOTHER CAR ACCIDENT.
HE LEAVES BEHIND A WIFE AND
ONE-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER.
HIS FUNERAL WILL BE HELD AT THE
SAME CHURCH TOMORROW MORNING.
>>> AS FOR THE WEATHER, TONIGHT
CLOUDY WITH A LOAF OF 24 AND
TOMORROW A HIGH OF 29 AND MOSTLY
CLOUDY UNTIL 5:00 P.M. WHEN THE
SNOW BEGINS.
4-6 INCHES OF SNOW ARE POSSIBLE
IN NORTHERN AND CENTRAL ILLINOIS
TOMORROW NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY.
>> AND YOU CAN GET "CHICAGO
TONIGHT" STREAMED ON Facebook,
YouTube AND OUR WEBSITE,
WTTW.COM/NEWS.
AND YOU CAN ALSO WATCH VIA
PODCAST AND THE PBS VIDEO APP.
NOW, PARIS, BACK TO YOU.
>> THANKS, BRANDIS.
>>> STILL TO COME ON "CHICAGO
TONIGHT", COULD MARIJUANA HELP
KEEP PEOPLE OFF OF OPIOIDS?
ASSESSING THE OPIOID CRISIS AND
EFFORTS TO SAVE LIVES.
>>> A NEW TREND CALLED DRY
JANUARY WHAT TO EXPECT IF YOU
GIVE NOT DRINKING A TRY.
>>> DOWNTON ABBEY STAR BRENDAN
COYLE TALKS ABOUT PLAYING THE
THEATER FOR THE FIRST TIME AND A
LOOK AT THE PUPPET THEATER ARE
HEATHER HENSON.
>> SOME OF THE ELEMENTS PROPOSED
BY FIVE ARCHITECTURAL GROUPS
SELECTED AS FINALISTS TO REBUILD
O'HARE'S TERMINAL TWO PART OF
THE $8.5 BILLION EXPANSION PLAN
AND CITY OFFICIALS WANT TO HEAR
WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE DESIGNS
UNVEILED TODAY.
THE FIVE MOCK-UP PLANS ARE ON
DISPLAY DOWNTOWN AT THE CHICAGO
ARCHITECTURAL FOUNDATION AND AT
O'HARE'S TERMINAL TWO.
THEY WANT THE BUILDING TO MAKE A
DAZZLING FIRST IMPRESSION ON
TRAVELERS COMING THROUGH TOWN.
>> IMAGINE AS THEY COME FROM
CHINA, JAPAN, FRANCE, KENYA FROM
ALL PARTS OF THE WORLD AND THEY
GET OFF AND THIS IS THEIR
OPENING TO AMERICA.
>> WE ARE CHICAGO WE WANT THE
BEST AND WE WANT AN EXPERIENCE
THAT IS FROM THE CURB TO THE
GATE IS REVOLUTIONARY USES THE
MOST MODERN TECHNOLOGY HAS THE
BEST AMENITIES IN THE WORLD AND
IS THE MOST ACCESSIBLE.
>> CITY OFFICIALS SAY THEY
SELECTED THE FIVE OUT OF 12
SUBMISSIONS TOTAL AND ASKING THE
PUBLIC TO WEIGH-IN.
A THOUSAND PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY
VOTED IN THE FIRST FEW HOURS.
THE FINAL SAY WILL COME DOWN TO
A SECRETIVE COMMITTEE.
THE MAYOR HE AOFFICE DECLINED TO
RELEASE THE NAMES OF
COMMITTEEMEMBERS BUT AMERICAN,
UNITED AND OTHER CARRIERS WILL
PLAY A ROLE.
>> WE'LL HAND ALL THE DATA OVER
TO THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE FOR
THEM TO USE WHEN THEY ARE
EVALUATING THE PROPOSALS.
>> THE PROPOSALS RANGE FROM THIS
ROOF DESIGN FROM A TEAM CALLED
FENTRESS-EXP-BROOKS-GARZA.
FOSTER EPSTEIN MORENO JV
SUBMITTED THIS PLAN FOR A
MASSIVE CURVED MAIN HALL.
CHICAGO BASED STUDIO ORD
FEATURING JENNY GANG FEATURES
LOTS OF INDOOR TREES AND GRASS
IN THE FLOOR.
KID SKIDMORE OWINGS AND MERRILL
IS PROPOSING THIS DESIGN PLAYING
UP O'HARE'S ORIGINAL DESIGNATION
AS ORCHARD FIELD AND SANTIAGO
CALATRAVA IS PROPOSING A
REDESIGN FOR THE TERMINAL AND
HOTELS AND PARKING GARAGES.
THE MAYOR SAYS THE BOLD PLANS
ARE NEEDED FOR O'HARE TO KEEP
PACE WITH AIRPORTS AROUND THE
WORLD.
>> EVERYONE OF THOSE TERMINALS
ARE COMPETITORS AND SUBMISSIONS
LOOK LIKE SOMETHING THAT YOU
WOULD SEE IN THE FAR EAST OR THE
MIDDLE EAST.
THAT IS GOING TO BE HERE IN THE
MIDWEST.
>> EMANUEL HAS NOT SET FORTH A
TIME LINE BUT WANTS A DESIGN
SELECTED BEFORE HE LEAVES OFFICE
IN MAY.
THE FINAL PLAN IS EXPECTED TO
ADD 25% MORE GATE CAPACITY AND
INCREASE THE FOOTPRINT FROM FINE
PORTFOLIO 5 TO 8.9 MILLION
SQUARE FEET AND CONSTRUCTION IS
EXPECTED TO START IN 2021 AND
FINISH IN 2028 AND PAID FOR
THROUGH GATE AND CONCESSION
FEES.
>>> CAN MARIJUANA BE A TREATMENT
TO KEEP PEOPLE OFF OF OPIOIDS?
AN ILLINOIS PROGRAM AIMS TO
REDUCE OPIOID ADECKION BY
ALLOWING PEOPLE TO USE CANNABIS
INSTEAD AS MORE PEOPLE ARE
LIKELY TO DIE FROM OPIOID
OVERDOSE THAN FROM A CAR CRASH
AND THE RATE IS HIGHER IN
ILLINOIS.
JOINING US IS FAMILY PHYSICIAN
DR.ELIZABETH SALISBURY-AFSHAR,
SHE IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE
CENTER FOR MULTISYSTEM SOLUTIONS
TO THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC AT THE
AMERICAN INSTITUTE FOR RESEARCH.
AND PROVIDES ADDICTION TREATMENT
TO PATIENTS AT HEARTLAND
ALLIANCE HEALTH AND WAS THE
POINT PERSON FOR OPIOIDS AT THE
CHICAGO DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
HEALTH.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> IS MARIJUANA AN EFFECTIVE
ALTERNATIVE FOR OPIOIDS?
>> SO I THINK THIS IS AN AREA
THAT IS REALLY HARD TO ANSWER
RIGHT NOW PRIMARILY BECAUSE
MARIJUANA IS A SCHEDULE ONE DRUG
MEANS IT'S ILLEGAL AT THE
FEDERAL LEVEL.
REGARDLESS OF WHAT STATES DO
THERE ARE LIMITATIONS HOW WE CAN
RESEARCH IT AND STUDY IT WHICH
MEANS WE ARE NOT ABLE TO DO THE
SAME MEDICAL STUDIES THAT WE
WOULD FOR OTHER DRUGS.
>> WE DON'T HAVE CLEAR
SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH ON THE CAUSE
AND EFFECT BUT WE HAVE ANECDOTAL
STORIES?
AND SOME STUDIES THAT LOOK LIKE
IT DOES REDUCE PAIN SYMPTOMS AND
OPIOID DESCRIBING AND OTHER
STUDIES SHOW NO BENEFIT THE
CHALLENGE IS WE DON'T HAVE A
CLEAR SENSE AND THE STUDIES ARE
NOT THE TYPES OF STUDIES WE
WANT.
WHEN YOU TRY TO LOOK AT THEM
ACROSS THE BOARD IT IS NOT A
CONSISTENT MESSAGE TO TELL US
YES IT IS A GOODALL TERNE ACTIVE
FOR PAIN.
>> WITH THIS ILLINOIS LAW IF YOU
GET AN OPIOID PRESCRIPTION HOW
DOES THE PILOT PROGRAM WORK NOW?
>> THE WAY THAT THE PILOT
PROGRAM WORKS IF A PHYSICIAN
DEEMED THERE IS A PATIENT WHO
WOULD QUALIFY FOR AN OPIOID, YOU
CAN BASICALLY CERTIFY THAT THEY
HAVE A CONDITION THAT THEN WOULD
ALLOW THEM TO GET A SHORT-TERM,
A 90-DAY MEDICAL MARIJUANA CARD.
>> IS THERE ANY EVIDENCE TO
SUGGEST THAT SUBSTITUTING ONE
ADDICTIVE SUBSTANCE FOR ANOTHER
COULD CAUSE PROBLEMS?
>> SO I THINK YOU KNOW, THIS
OFTEN COMES UP WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT OPIOID ADDICTION
TREATMENT.
AND SO I THINK IT --
>> BECAUSE METHADONE IS A
TREATMENT AND THAT CAN BE
ADDICTIVE TOO.
>> WE HAVE A STRONG CASE FOR
METHADONE WHICH ARE OPIOIDS WHY
WOULD YOU SUBSTITUTE ONE OPIOID
FOR ANOTHER.
WHAT WE KNOW WE HAVE BEEN ABLE
TO STUDY THEM AND THEY ARE FDA
APPROVED AND WE KNOW THAT THEY
DO THINGS LIKE REDUCE THE RISK
THAT SOMEONE RESUMES OPIOID USE
AND REUSE ILLICIT USE AND THEY
REDUCE RISK OF DEATH AND WE HAVE
LONG-TERM STUDIES WITH LARGE
NUMBERS OF PATIENTS SHOWING
THESE SAME FINDINGS OVER AND
OVER WHEN WE THINK OF MEDICAL
EVIDENCE WE HAVE A LOT OF
EVIDENCE THAT THE TREATMENTS ARE
EFFECTIVE.
>> ON THE OTHER HAND IS THERE
EVIDENCE THAT SUGGESTS THAT
MARIJUANA USE COULD HELP WEAN
PEOPLE OFF OF OPIOIDS?
>> I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE
ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT THEY
REALLY FEEL IT HELPS THEM BUT
BECAUSE WE CANNOT STUDY IT THE
WAY WE STUDY OTHER DRUGS WE
DON'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF EVIDENCE
TO SAY THAT THIS WILL HELP TREAT
ADDICTION OR THAT IT WILL WEEN
PEOPLE OFF OPIOIDS FOR PAIN.
>> HOW DO MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS
THINK OF THIS MOVEMENT AWAY FROM
OPIOIDS AND TOWARDS CANNABIS?
>> I THINK WE RECOGNIZE AS A
MEDICAL FIELD THAT WE WERE
OVERPRESCRIBING OPIOIDS FOR A
LOT OF TIME THERE WAS A LOT OF
MISINFORMATION AND A BELIEF THAT
THEY WERE SAFER THAN THEY
PROBABLY WERE.
AND OPIOIDS DO NOT HAVE GREAT
IMPACTS ON PAIN FOR PEOPLE WITH
CHRONIC PAIN AND THEY UNDERSTOOD
THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE HAD FOR
PATIENTS WHO HAVE BEEN ON
OPIOIDS FOR A LONGTIME.
MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE
ADDICTION.
AND NOW FIGURING OUT HOW TO BACK
OUT OF THAT SPACE HOW TO HELP
PEOPLE HOW TO FIND DIFFERENT
MODALITIES OFTENTIMES OTHER
OPTIONS ARE NOT COVERED BY
INSURANCE AND THINGS LIKE
PHYSICAL THERAPY PAY COPAYS
EVERY TIME YOU GO.
IT IS A CHALLENGING SPACE TO BE
IN RIGHT NOW.
I THINK ALL OF US ARE OPEN TO
EXPLORING NEW OPTIONS WE ALL
WANT TO FIND THINGS TO HELP OUR
PATIENTS AND MAKE SURE WE ARE
NOT GIVING PEOPLE THINGS THAT
MAY INCREASE RISK.
>> AND YOU MENTION
OVERPRESCRIBING POSSIBLY AND I
READ A STAT SINCE 1999 THERE ARE
THREE TIMES AS MANY OPIOIDS
PRESCRIBED TODAY.
WHY DID THAT HAPPEN?
>> I THINK LIKE MOST THINGS IN
LIFE AND IN PUBLIC HEALTH IT'S
COMPLICATED.
BUT WE KNOW PHARMACEUTICAL
MARKETING PLAYED A ROLE.
THIS SORT OF REALLY HEAVY
PROMOTION THAT THE DRUGS WERE
SAFE AND IF THEY WERE NOT
WORKING WE SHOULD PRESCRIBE MORE
AND MORE.
AND WE KNOW THOSE CLAIMS WERE
NOT TRUE OR EVIDENCE-BASED BUT I
THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF
PRESSURES ON PHYSICIANS TO MEET
PATIENT DEMANDS TO SORT OF SEE
AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE AND
ALSO OTHER ALTERNATIVES AGAIN
THINGS LIKE ACUPUNCTURE,
MASSAGE, BY THE TYPE OF PAIN,
THOSE THINGS OFTEN ARE NOT
COVERED.
SO THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAD
ACCESS TO WERE ON THE
PRESCRIPTION PAD.
SO THERE WERE A LOT OF FACTORS
THAT PLAYED A ROLE.
THERE IS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON
DOCTORS WE SHOULD BE ASKING
ABOUT PAIN AND TREAT TO GO MORE
AGGRESSIVELY.
>> YOU WORK FOR A FEDERALLY
QUALIFIED HEALTH CENTER YOU
CANNOT PRESCRIBE MARIJUANA
BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
AND MARIJUANA IS ILLEGAL ON A
FEDERAL LEVEL?
>> RIGHT.
SO THERE ARE CERTAIN TYPES OF
CLINICS AND HEALTH CENTERS AND
BECAUSE FEDERALLY IT IS ILLEGAL
WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CERTIFY
PEOPLE FOR MARIJUANA IN THE WAY
THAT SOMEONE IN PRIVATE PRACTICE
IS ABLE TO.
>> AND YOU BROUGHT NARCAN WITH
YOU THIS IS WHAT YOU GIVE PEOPLE
WHO ARE OVERDOSING IT IS NOT A
CURE BUT IT IS TO TREAT THE
SYMPTOM.
>> WE KNOW WHEN WE THINK ABOUT
EVIDENCE-BASED AND HOW TO
APPROACH THE OPIOID TREATMENT.
NALOXONE IS A MEDICATION TO
REVERSE AN OVERDOSE ANYONE CAN
CARRY IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO IS
OVERDOSING YOU CAN GIVE THE
MEDICATIONS.
THIS IS THE NASAL SPRAY AND THE
SYRINGE AND THIS TALKS TO YOU
AND.
>> AND THE NALOXONE IS SOMETHING
THAT HOSPITALS ARE GIVING OUT
AND THE COOK COUNTY JAIL IS
GIVING OUT TO INMATES THAT THE
ARE LEAVING.
DR.ELIZABETH SALISBURY-AFSHAR
THANK YOU FOR COMING.
AND BRANDIS IS BACK WITH MORE
RIGHT AFTER THIS.
[♪♪♪]
>> 100 YEARS AGO THIS WEEK,
AMERICA'S NOBLE EXPERIMENT
PROHIBITION WENT INTO EFFECT AND
FAST FORWARD TO TODAY AND MANY
WOULD SAY AMERICA HAS DEVELOPED
A DEEP LOVE AND APPRECIATION FOR
ALCOHOL.
ASIDE FROM THE BEVERAGES, EVENTS
LIKE WINE AND PAINT OR BEER
TASTINGSES AT THE MICRO
BREWERIES CAN MAKE ANY WEEKEND A
BOOZEY ONE BUT A NEW TREND
REQUIRES PARTICIPANTS TO DITCH
ALCOHOL FOR THE FIRST MONTH OF
THE NEW YEAR.
IT'S CALLED DRY JANUARY AND FOR
SOME OF YOU FOR 17 DAYS IN.
JOINING US TO DISCUSS THE FAD
AND BENEFITS ARE JEN BRUNING
SPOKESPERSON FOR THE ACADEMY OF
NUTRITION AND DANIEL FRIDBERG AN
ASSISTANT PROFESSOR OF
PSYCHIATRY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
CHICAGO.
DANIEL FRIDBERG'S WORK FOCUSES
ON ASSESSMENT AND TREATMENT OF
SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND ADDICTIONS.
WELCOME BOTH OF YOU TO "CHICAGO
TONIGHT."
DAN, WHERE DID THIS TREND COME
FROM?
HOW LONG HAVE PEOPLE BEEN DOING
IT?
>> THIS IS I APUBLIC HEALTH
INITIATIVE THAT STARTED OVERSEAS
IN THE UNITED KINGDOM AND IS
STARTING TO GAIN STEAM IN THE
UNITED STATES THROUGH SOCIAL
MEDIA.
AND THE IDEA IS ON THE SURFACE
SIMPLE.
ABSTAIN FOR ALCOHOL FOR A MONTH
IN JANUARY.
>> JEN, WHY ARE PEOPLE TRY TO
GO?
>> I THINK IT'S TIED TO NEW
YEAR'S RESOLUTIONS AND
OFTENTIMES WE HAVE A DESIRE TO
RECONNECT WITH OUR HEALTH AND
START OFF THE NEW YEAR ON THE
RIGHT FOOT.
>> IS THERE A SPECTRUM TO
ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CASUAL
DRINKING AND ADDICTION?
>> THE LOWER RISK LEVEL OF
DRINKING WOULD BE FOR A WOMAN
ABOUT SEVEN DRINKS A WEEK OR
FEWER.
AND THOSE ARE STANDARD ALCOHOLIC
DRINKS.
WHEN YOU EXCEED THOSE LIMITS YOU
DO START TO SEE THE ODDS OR THE
RISK FACTORS FOR PROBLEMS START
TO DEVELOP MORE.
YOU START TO SEE PEOPLE HAVE
PROBLEMS AFTER THAT.
>> WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS TO
GIVING IT UP FOR A MONTH?
>> YOU CAN SEE SOME NICE THINGS
HAPPEN.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE
SEE MOST OFTEN IS THAT THERE'S
QUALITY OF SLEEP IMPROVES WHICH
CAN HAVE A TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECT
IN EVERY PART OF YOUR LIFE.
YOU HAVE MORE ATTENTION AND
FOCUS YOUR MOOD AND ATTITUDE CAN
IMPROVE.
SOME FOLKS CAN SEE WEIGHT LOSS.
AND THINK THE MOST COMPELLING
REASON TO GIVE IT A TRY IS TAKE
THE TIME TO REEXAMINE YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH ALCOHOL AND
WHAT ROLE IT PLAYS IN YOUR LIFE.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE STUDIES THAT
SAY ONE GLASS OF RED WINE IS
GOOD FOR ME?
>> THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT A
SMALL AMOUNT OF RED WINE MAY
HAVE A BENEFIT WHEN IT COMES TO
HEART HEALTH BUT THE EVIDENCE IS
NOT STRONG ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE
SHOULD START TO DRINK FOR HEALTH
REASONS AND ALCOHOL IS A TOXIN
AND IT CAN BE HARMFUL TO EVERY
PART OF THE BODY.
TAKING A STEP AWAY IS A HEALTHY
THING THAT PEOPLE CAN DO.
>> AND DAN MENTIONED THE
PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS FOR MONTHS
CAN GIVE YOU TIME TO REFLECT
WHAT IS BEHIND YOUR URGE TO
DRINK.
>> SHE TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY
MOUTH.
THE RELATIONSHIP WITH ALCOHOL IS
IMPORTANT.
ARE YOU DRINKING BECAUSE YOU ARE
BORED?
DEPRESSED?
ANXIOUS?
TO DEAL WITH OTHER PROBLEMS THAT
ALCOHOL IS NOT EFFECTIVE COPING
STRATEGY.
THOSE OF US IN THE PSYCHOLOGICAL
SERVICES BUSINESS WOULD
RECOMMEND MANY OTHER
INTERVENTIONS MORE EFFECTIVE
LONGER TERM AND HAVE FEWER
HEALTH CONSEQUENCES.
>> WHAT ARE THE LONGER TERM
BENEFITS FOR GIVING UP ALCOHOL
FOR THE MONTH?
>> IF YOU WANT TO GO LONGER THAN
A MONTH YOU CAN START TO IMPACT
SOME OF THOSE LONG-TERM CHRONIC
HEALTH CONDITIONS THAT CAN COME
FROM AN UNHEALTHY LIFESTYLE.
YOU CAN REDUCE BREAST CANCER IN
WOMEN AND HEART DISEASE AND
DISEASES OF THE LIVER LIKE
CIRRHOSIS.
>> DO PEOPLE FIND THEMSELVES
USING SUGAR TO REPLACE ALCOHOL?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S IMPORTANT IF YOU ARE GOING
TO GIVE UP SOMETHING LIKE
ALCOHOL THAT YOU HAVE A PLAN IN
PLACE FOR HEALTHY BEHAVIORS THAT
YOU REPLACE THAT ALCOHOL WITH.
THINGS LIKE HAVING OTHER
BEVERAGES AROUND THAT YOU CAN BE
EXCITED ABOUT LIKE FLAVORS OF
SPARKLING WATER ON TREND RIGHT
NOW OR MAKING MOCKTAILS AT HOME.
THAT CAN GIVE YOU SOMETHING ELSE
THAT YOU CAN ENJOY IN PLACE OF
THE ALCOHOL SO YOU ARE NOT
TAKING IN COMFORT FOODS AND
SUGAR AND THINGS THAT ARE
WORKING AGAINST YOU IN THE LONG
RUN.
>> I WANT TO COME BACK TO THE
MOCKTAILS.
WHAT ARE YOUR TIPS TO STAY
MOTIVATED?
>> WHY ARE YOU DECIDING TO
ABSTAIN FROM ALCOHOL IN THE
MONTH OF JANUARY?
WHAT ARE YOUR OWN REASONS?
IT MIGHT BE CHALLENGING TO
MOTIVATE YOURSELF IF YOUR REASON
IS BECAUSE YOU SAW IT ON
Facebook.
YOU MIGHT MORE MOTIVATED IF YOU
THINK ABOUT YOUR DESIRE TO MAKE
LOSE WEIGHT OR REEXAMINE YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH ALCOHOL OR
EXPLORE OTHER ACTIVITIES AND SO
FORTH.
>> DOES IT HELP TO HAVE MAYBE A
BUDDY OR COMMUNITY DOING THE
SAME THING NOT JUST ON
Facebook BUT SOMETHING
SIMILAR?
>> THAT COULD BE HELPFUL.
I ADVISE MY PATIENTS WHEN THEY
ARE TALKING TO ME ABOUT SLOWING
DOWN OR STOPPING DRINKING BRING
PEOPLE INTO THIS WITH YOU.
LET YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND
THOSE THAT YOU TRUST KNOW SO
THEY CAN HELP YOU AND SUPPORT
YOU.
>> THE DRY WHY?
WHAT IS IT AND HOW CAN IT
MOTIVATE YOU?
>> IT IS WHAT DAN WAS SAYING
IT'S YOUR REASON FOR TAKING THIS
ON.
MAYBE YOU WANT TO BE A MORE
PRESENT PARENT HAVING A PICTURE
OF YOUR KIDS ON THE PHONE OR
FRIDGE TO REMIND YOU.
MAYBE IT IS A DAILY REMINDER TO
KEEP SAYING THAT IS WHY I'M
DOING THIS.
I CAN STAY STRONG AND GET
THROUGH THIS TIME.
>> AND DAN WHAT IF SOMEONE
REALIZES THAT THEY DO NEED HELP?
>> I WOULD SAY THE FIRST PLACE
TO START TO TALK TO YOUR
PHYSICIAN.
THAT IS PROBABLY THE FIRST PLACE
TO START FOR MOST PEOPLE.
REACH OUT TO THEM AND LET THEM
KNOW WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE AND
GO FROM THERE.
>> AND JEN, WE HAVE TO LEAVE
EVERYBODY WITH THE MOCKTAIL.
RECIPE TO TRY AT HOME?
>> YES.
I LOVE A FAUX HITO.
SPARKLING WATER, LIME FLAVORED
AND THE LIME AND THE MINT IN THE
GLASS AND SOMETHING SWEET YOU
CAN DO LEMON LIME SODA OR DO
HONEY, SUGAR OR AGAVEY TO GIVE
IT A SWEET TASTE AND MAKE THAT
REFRESHING MINT AND LIME STAND
OUT.
>> SOUNDS REFRESHING AND WE HAVE
EXAMPLES ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL.
JEN BRUNING AND DANIEL FRIDBERG
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> AND YOU CAN VISIT OUR WEBSITE
FOR OTHER MOCKTAIL RECIPES AND
TIPS TO STAY MOTIVATED.
>>> AND FROM DOWNTON ABBEY TO
DOWNTOWN CHICAGO, A BRITISH
ACTOR HAS BROUGHT HIS ACTING
SKILLS FROM THE TV SCREEN TO THE
STAGE.
"CHICAGO TONIGHT" CAUGHT UP WITH
BRENDAN COYLE FOR HIS LOCAL
DEBUT AT THE GOODMAN THEATER.
EDDIE ARRUZA HAS THAT STORY.
>> I'M JOHN BASE.
>> ON DOWNTON ABBEY, BRENDAN
COYLE MADE A MEMORABLE
IMPRESSION AS Mr. JOHN BATES.
THROUGH SIX SEASONS OF THE HIT
SERIES THE CHARACTER EARNS THE
RESPECT OF THE STAFF AMID
THREATENING ACCUSATIONS AND A
BUDDING ROMANCE.
WE ASKED THE ACTOR ABOUT THE
EXPERIENCE OF PLAYING A KEY ROLE
IN THE DOWNTON ABBEY ENSEMBLE.
>> IT WAS PHENOMENAL WE DON'T
UNDERSTAND IT.
WE HAD THREE SCRIPTS THREE FIRST
EPISODES AND THIS IS NOT GOING
TO WORK.
AND IT WAS GOOD STORIES.
WE THOUGHT IT WOULD DO ALL RIGHT
BUT IT TIPPED INTO SOMETHING
ELSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT
TIPPING POINT IS AND YOU CANNOT
BOTTLE IT.
IT BECAME A GLOBAL THING.
AND IT'S BEEN A GREAT RIDE.
WHAT A GIG.
EVERYONE LIKES TO BE IN A HIT.
>> ARE WE ALL RIGHT?
>> OF COURSE.
>> THE SUCCESS OF DOWNTON
FOLLOWS HIM AROUND THE WORLD.
>> WHEN I GOT HERE I TURNED ON
THE TV AND THERE IT WAS ON PBS.
IT CONTINUES WE WRAPPED THE
MOVIE IN NOVEMBER.
THE STORY CONTINUES.
I WAS A CHARACTER.
FAMOUS IN ALL THE WRONG WAYS.
>> COYLE IS CURRENTLY AT THE
GOODMAN THEATER PORTRAYING A
THEATER CRITIC HAUNTED BY
PERSONAL DEMONS AND POSSIBLY
VAMPIRES.
THE PLAY IS ST. NICHOLAS BY THE
IRISH PLAYWRIGHT CONNER
MacPHERSON WHO HAS A PENCHANT
FOR THE SUPERNATURAL.
>> HE IS ONE OF THE MOST
MONSTEROUS CREATIONS AND WHY HE
CHOSE A THEATER CRITIC I DON'T
KNOW.
MAYBE SOMETHING GOING ON.
BUT HE IS PRETTY AWFUL AND
DISILLUSIONED AND FULL OF SELF
LOATHING AND LOBILITYING FOR THE
PEOPLE HE CRITICIZES AND FULL OF
ENVY FOR THE ARTS.
HE IS A FRUSTRATED WRITER
HIMSELF.
HIS MARRIAGE IS IN DECLINE.
HIS KIDS DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO
DO WITH HIM.
>> AS THE LONE ACTOR IN THE SHOW
BRENDAN COYLE DIRECTLY ADDRESSES
THE AD YEBS.
>> WE ALL TAKE PART IN THIS
CONVENTION.
AND YOU WILL SAY THEY ARE NOT
VERY BELIEVABLE, ARE THEY?
THESE VAMPIRES.
>> THIS SPACE IS A BEAUTIFUL
SPACE AND IT GIVES US OUR TEAM
THE ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH
PEOPLE IN DIRECT WAY.
AND DIRECT ADDRESS ALLOWS THE
STORY TO UNLOCK THINGS IN
PEOPLE'S MINDS.
IT'S YEAH, IT IS IMMEDIATE.
WE BREAK THAT FOURTH WALL.
IT IS A TWO-HANDER IT'S ME AND
THE AUDIENCE.
AND THE ENERGY IS DIFFERENT
EVERY NIGHT.
CHICAGOANS HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC
THEY GET THE HUMOR.
THE QUALITY OF THE LISTENING TO
THE PIECE HAS BEEN AMAZING.
GRATIFYING FOR ALL OF US.
>> COYLE SEES THE PLAYWRIGHT'S
PLOT AS SOMETHING OF A METAPHOR.
>> IT IS A THEME.
IT'S A SENSE OF LONGING.
A DESIRE TO CONNECT THAT WE ALL
HAVE IN POST CATHOLIC IRELAND HE
STILL WRITES ABOUT SPIRITS AND
ANOTHER WORLD AND THE WORLD
FASCINATED BY AND TRAN SEND SI,
GHOST STORIES AND THE
SUPERNATURAL THE THEMES THAT RUN
THROUGH HIS WORK AND IT FREAKS
ALL OF US WE ARE ALL LOOKING FOR
ANSWERS AND A WAY TO CONNECT AND
UNDERSTAND AND SOMETHING THAT HE
USES BEAUTIFULLY.
SOMETIMES IT IS A WAY TO BRING
PEOPLE IN TO TELL A TRUTH OR GET
TO THE HEART OF SOMETHING.
BUT IT IS A CAPTIVATING WAY OF
STORYTELLING.
USING THE ANCIENT ART OF IRISH
STORYTELLING AND SPINS IN A
MODERN WAY.
>> HE MAY BE THE ONLY PERFORMER
IN THIS SHOW BUT WE ASKED AGAIN
ABOUT THE FAMOUS ENSEMBLE AND
THE DOWNTON ABBEY MOVIE
SCHEDULED TO OPEN IN THEATERS IN
SEPTEMBER.
>> WELL IT IS A DIRECT
CONTINUATION FROM THE LAST TIME
WE SAW ALL THE CHARACTERS.
IT DOESN'T EMBRACE ANY
PARTICULAR HISTORIC EVENT LIKE
THE TITANIC OR WORLD WAR I THAT
WE INCORPORATED.
IT IS A STORY ABOUT WHAT IS
HAPPENING TO THAT FAMILY.
THERE IS A ROYAL VISIT.
IT WILL BE GRAND AND IT WILL
LOOK AMAZING.
>> UNTIL THEN YOU CAN SEE HIM IN
A ROLE THAT IS SEPARATE FROM
Mr. BATES.
>> IF YOU COME TO THIS IT IS
BECAUSE YOU ARE A FAN AND YOU
ARE IN FOR A DIFFERENT
EXPERIENCE.
>> FOR "CHICAGO TONIGHT" I'M
EDDIE ARRUZA.
>> ST. NICHOLAS IS AT THE
GOODMAN THEATER UNTIL JANUARY
27TH.
HEAR MORE FROM ACTOR BRENDAN
COYLE ON OUR WEBSITE.
AND WE'RE BACK WITH MORE RIGHT
AFTER THIS.
>> EVERY OTHER YEAR CHICAGO
TEMPORARILY BECOMES THE PUPPET
CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.
THAT'S WHEN THE CHICAGO
INTERNATIONAL PUPPET THEATER
FESTIVAL BRINGS IN PUPPET
ARTISTS FROM AROUND THE WORLD TO
PERFORM SHOWS ACROSS THE CITY
FOR KIDS AND ADULTS.
2019 MARKS THE THIRD EDITION OF
THE BIENNIAL FESTIVAL AND
ARTISTS ARE HERE FROM JAPAN,
FRANCE, CAL CHILLY
CHILE AND ISRAEL.
WE WELCOME HEATHER HENSON AND TY
DEFOE.
>> THE SHOW THAT YOU CO-DIRECTED
KICKS OFF THE FESTIVAL TELL US
ABOUT "AJIJAAK ON TURTLE
ISLAND".
>> A STORY WE HAVE BEEN WORKING
ON FOR YEARS AND IT IS ABOUT A
WHOPPING CRANE AND A WHOPPING
CRANE ON THE FIRST MIGRATION
TRAVELING ALL THE WAY FROM
CANADA DOWN TO TEXAS AND BACK ON
THE FIRST MIGRATION.
AND IT --
>> ALONG THE WAY, SHE MEETS
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE WHO ARE
STEWARDS IN TAKING CARE OF THE
EARTH OF THE PAST AND THE
PRESENT AND GIVING MESSAGES FOR
FUTURE GENERATIONS TO COME ABOUT
THE SUSTAINABILITY AND HOW TO
TAKE CARE OF THE EARTH.
>> AND "AJIJAAK ON TURTLE
ISLAND" IS ON TURTLE ISLAND
WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM?
>> TURTLE ISLAND IS REFERRED TO
BY FIRST NATIONS PEOPLE,
NATIVE-AMERICAN PEOPLE AS THE
UNITED STATES, CANADA AND ALSO
MEXICO.
IF YOU GOOGLE GO ON GOOGLE
SEARCH YOU CAN SEE THE ENTIRE
CONTINENT IS THE SHAPE OF A
TURTLE'S BACK.
FROM HER MIGRATION FLIGHT WE
THOUGHT GREAT TO PLACE IT ON THE
LAND IN WHICH SHE IS FLYING
OVER.
>> AND HEATHER YOU ARE AN
ENVIRONMENTALIST AND IT SEEMS
THAT WORK IS REFLECTED IN THIS
WORK.
HOW DO THE TWO COME TOGETHER?
>> ALL MY SHOWS HAVE BEEN ABOUT
THE ENVIRONMENT AND HIGHLIGHTING
HOW PEOPLE CAN LIVE
SUSTAINABLELY ON THE LAND AND
LIVE IN HARMONY WITH OUR
ENVIRONMENT AND THE ANIMALS THAT
WE ALL SHARE THE SPACE WITH.
SO I COULDN'T DO THE SHOW
WITHOUT WORKING WITH THE STORIES
FROM THE FIRST NATIONS PEOPLE
THAT ARE FROM THIS LAND WE ARE
ON INDIGENOUS LAND SO LOOKING AT
THAT LIFESTYLE AND TELLING THE
STORY OF THE CRANE.
SO THE CRANE AND IN PARTICULAR
THE WHOPPING CRANE IS THE
LARGEST BIRD IN NORTH AMERICA
AND THE MOST RARE OF ALL SPECIES
OF BIRDS IS THE WHOPPING CRANE
ON THIS CONSISTENT THIS BIRD
RAPIDLY DECLINED AT THE TIME OF
COLONIZATION AND WENT DOWN TO
LESS THAN 20 BIRDS WERE LEFT BUT
THEN THE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN
RISING AND IT IS A BIRD THAT IS
COMING BACK AND WITH STRENGTH
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS
BIRD COMING BACK IN THE GREAT
NUMBERS.
>> TELL US ABOUT YOUR BACK
STORY.
YOU ARE FROM THE MIDWEST.
>> I AM.
I GREW UP IN NORTHERN WISCONSIN.
AND SO SOME OF MY BACK STORY IS
THAT THROUGHOUT WISCONSIN YOU
KNOW GROWING UP LEARNING ABOUT
ORAL STORIES FROM TRADITIONAL
ELDERS AND THEN ALSO AAS AN
ARTIST MAKING MY CONTEMPORARY
ART I HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE
STATE OF WISCONSIN.
SOMEWHAT IN CHICAGO AND IN
MICHIGAN AND MINNESOTA, BECAUSE
I FROM THE ONEIDA NATION THE
NATURAL HOMELANDS TO MY PEOPLE I
HAVE A STRONG CONNECTION TO THE
GREAT LAKES AREA HAVING MEMORIES
OF BEING A CHILD GROWING UP
THERE AND ALSO IT'S IMPORTANT
BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF
WATER AND HOW WE NEED TO STEWARD
OVER WATER.
>> AND YOU ALSO HAVE THAT GRAMMY
AWARD.
TELL US ABOUT THE WORK THAT
EARNED THAT AWARD?
>> YEAH, WELL, YOU KNOW, GROWING
UP IN WISCONSIN, AND SORT OF
COLLABORATING WITH WONDERFUL
ARTISTS, YOU KNOW, LIKE HEATHER
AND OTHER FOLKS LIKE OUR DESIGN
TEAM AND THE ACTORS AND
PERFORMERS IN IT, I AM A
FLUTIST, I DO DRUMMING AND
SINGING AND VOCAL ROLES AND THAT
IS MY BACKGROUND IS IN THE WORLD
MUSIC WHERE I MET ARTISTS AND WE
TRAVELED AROUND THE WORLD DOING
CULTURAL EXCHANGES AND VARIOUS
WAYS TO TELL THE STORIES WHETHER
IT IS THROUGH SONG, DANCE OR
THEATER.
>> AND HEATHER WE WOULD BE
REMISS IF WE DID NOT ASK YOU
ABOUT JIM HENSON CREATOR OF THE
MUPPETS AND MORE.
AND WE HAVE A PICTURE OF YOU
WITH YOUR FATHER IN 1978.
WHAT WAS IT LIKE COMING FROM
SUCH A CREATIVE FAMILY?
>> IN THAT PARTICULAR PICTURE IS
FROM THE OPENING OF THE CENTER
FOR PUPPETRY ARTS IN ATLANTA.
I WAS SEVEN YEARS OLD.
>> AND YOUR FATHER JIM MEN SON
IS IN THE HENSON IS IN THE
MIDDLE KERMIT.
>> AND THAT IS MY FAMILY.
THERE'S FIVE SIBLINGS IN THE
FAMILY.
I GREW UP IN A GREAT FAMILY
CREATIVE AND MY DAD LOVED THE
ART FORM OF PUPPETRY, AND HE
SUPPORTED OTHER ARTISTS AND
MADE --
LOOK AT THAT.
YEAH.
AND SO HE LOVED THE ART FORM AND
ACTUALLY WAS INVOLVED IN THE
PUPPET COMMUNITY THAT IS
EXCITING THAT THIS PUPPET
FESTIVAL IS HIGHLIGHTING THE
WIDING BREADTH OF WHAT IT CAN
BE.
AND SEE ALL THE STYLES OUT
THERE.
MY DAD ABOUT ONE STYLE AND
BECAME FAMOUS FOR THE STYLE BUT
HE DID TRY WORKED OTHER STYLES
IN AND THEN IN HIS GENRE OF
PUPPETRY HE DID WORK MARIONETTES
IN AND OVERSIZED FULL LENGTH
STYLE PUPPETRY.
AND IT WAS A VERY CREATIVE
FAMILY TO GROW UP IN.
AND WE DID GET TO SEE HOW
BEAUTIFUL THE ART FORM WAS.
>> IS IT IN YOUR DNA?
WAS THERE A LOT OF PUT INDUSTRY
GOING ON IN THE HOUSE?
>> A LOT OF CREATIVITY.
CRAFTS.
HOLIDAYS WERE ABOUT PUMPKIN
CARVING IN EXTREME WAY AND
EASTER EGG DYEING WAS ELABORATE.
AND WHEN WENT TO VISIT MY DAD ON
THE SETS AND GOING TO PUPPET
FESTIVALS.
>> TY WHAT ARE SOME OF THE
CHALLENGES
CHALLENGES IN PRESENTING PUT
INDUSTRY TO 21ST CENTURY
AUDIENCES?
>> I THINK SOME OF THE
CHALLENGES ARE I GUESS SORT OF
UNVEILING WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT
MAYBE PUT INDUSTRY OR THEATER OR
ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE KNOW.
LIKE THE IDEA IS THAT SOME OF
THE CHALLENGES FACED ARE
PRESENTING PUPPETRY MAYBE IN A
NEW WAY AND STORIES IN A NEW WAY
TALKING ABOUT CROSS CULTURAL
LEARNING WITHIN MUSIC AND ART
FORMS THAT THESE THINGS HAVE
EXISTED FOR 500 YEARS PLUS
BEYOND HUMAN BEINGS THAT WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT ECOSYSTEMS AND
NATURE HAVING THEIR FORMS OF
PUPPETRY WHEN YOU WALKOUT INTO
THE WOODS AND TREES THERE ARE
THINGS THAT EXISTED BEFORE HUMAN
SPECIES EVER WALKED THE EARTH.
WHEN YOU TAKE A BIG CONCEPT LIKE
THAT AND TALK ABOUT TELLING
STORIES I THINK LIKE THE IDEA
TRYING TO GET THESE NEW IDEAS
ACROSS THAT HAVE EXISTED FROM
THE PAST.
>> HEATHER HENSON AND TY DEFOE
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AND THE CHICAGO INTERNATIONAL
PUPPET THEATER FESTIVAL RUNS
THROUGH JANUARY 27TH AT MULTIPLE
LOCATIONS.
AND THERE'S MUCH MORE ON OUR
WEBSITE AND WE WILL BE RIGHT
BACK AFTER THIS.
>> AND THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR THIS
THURSDAY NIGHT.
STAY CONNECTED BY SIGN UP FOR
YOUR DAILY BRIEFING.
AND JOIN US TOMORROW NIGHT LIVE
AT 7:00 P.M. FOR A SPECIAL
EDITION OF THE WEEK IN REVIEW.
>> WE'LL BRING YOU ANALYSIS
FOLLOWING TOMORROW'S SENTENCING
OF FORMER CHICAGO COP JASON VAN
DYKE.
>> FOR ALL OF US AT "CHICAGO
TONIGHT" I'M BRANDIS FRIEDMAN.
>> AND I'M PARIS SCHUTZ AND I
THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.
GOOD NIGHT.
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