1 00:00:03,666 --> 00:00:07,800 [♪♪♪] 2 00:00:05,633 --> 00:00:11,333 >> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO 3 00:00:07,066 --> 00:00:12,266 "CHICAGO TONIGHT." 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:13,400 ON THIS WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 5 00:00:11,333 --> 00:00:14,700 15TH... 6 00:00:12,266 --> 00:00:16,366 >> THESE WOMEN ARE GOOD LAWYERS 7 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:18,933 AND THEY LOVE THEIR JOHNS AND 8 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:19,866 THEY WORKED HARD TO GET TO WHERE 9 00:00:16,366 --> 00:00:21,866 THEY ARE TO REPRESENT INDIGENT 10 00:00:18,933 --> 00:00:23,666 CLIENTS EFFECTIVELY. 11 00:00:19,866 --> 00:00:27,100 >> A COURT APPEARANCE BY 12 00:00:21,866 --> 00:00:29,066 ATTORNEYS FOR COOK COUNTY PUBLIC 13 00:00:23,666 --> 00:00:30,933 DEFENDERS THAT FILED SUIT OVER 14 00:00:27,100 --> 00:00:32,933 INMATES EXPOSING THEMSELVES. 15 00:00:29,066 --> 00:00:34,333 >> I BELIEVE THAT PRESIDENT 16 00:00:30,933 --> 00:00:36,166 PUTIN FEELS AND HE FEELS 17 00:00:32,933 --> 00:00:38,066 STRONGLY THAT HE DID NOT MEDDLE 18 00:00:34,333 --> 00:00:40,566 IN OUR ELECTION. 19 00:00:36,166 --> 00:00:42,233 >> AS EVIDENCE MOUNTS THAT 20 00:00:38,066 --> 00:00:43,733 RUSSIA DID MEDDLE IN THE 2016 21 00:00:40,566 --> 00:00:45,000 ELECTION WE TALK TO AN EXPERT 22 00:00:42,233 --> 00:00:46,833 ABOUT VLADIMIR PUTIN'S STRATEGY 23 00:00:43,733 --> 00:00:49,100 AND GOALS. 24 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:50,933 >> WHY SHOULD THE BLACK MAN HAVE 25 00:00:46,833 --> 00:00:51,733 TO GO TO COURT TO GET FREEDOM 26 00:00:49,100 --> 00:00:53,900 WHEN A WHITE MAN IS FREE WHEN HE 27 00:00:50,933 --> 00:00:56,133 IS BORN? 28 00:00:51,733 --> 00:00:56,900 >> THE DAUGHTER OF MALCOM X ON 29 00:00:53,900 --> 00:00:58,633 HER ACTIVISM AND HER FAMILY'S 30 00:00:56,133 --> 00:01:00,266 LEGACY. 31 00:00:56,900 --> 00:01:03,066 >> RARELY SEEN ARTWORK FROM A 32 00:00:58,633 --> 00:01:06,266 CHICAGO ARTIST WHO PAINTED 33 00:01:00,266 --> 00:01:07,900 CAUTIONARY TALES OF CITY LIFE. 34 00:01:03,066 --> 00:01:08,200 >>> WHEN DID THE STATUE OF 35 00:01:06,266 --> 00:01:11,800 ALEXANDER HAMILTON EXIT STAGE 36 00:01:07,900 --> 00:01:15,466 LEFT? 37 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:16,966 GEOFFREY BAER TELLS HIS STORY IN 38 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:19,466 TONIGHT'S "ASK GEOFFREY". 39 00:01:15,466 --> 00:01:23,000 >>> AND THE FIELD MUSEUM 40 00:01:16,966 --> 00:01:23,400 WELCOMES THE TERRIFYING NEW 41 00:01:19,466 --> 00:01:24,833 NEIGHBORS AT JURASSIC WORLD, THE 42 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:31,433 EXHIBITION. 43 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:31,433 ALL THAT AND MORE NEXT ON 44 00:01:24,833 --> 00:01:31,433 "CHICAGO TONIGHT." 45 00:01:32,533 --> 00:01:38,100 [♪♪♪] 46 00:01:39,933 --> 00:01:43,400 >> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US I'M 47 00:01:40,533 --> 00:01:44,566 PHIL PONCE. 48 00:01:41,666 --> 00:01:46,066 CHICAGO VIOLENCE IS ONCE AGAIN 49 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:48,000 MAKING HEADLINES. 50 00:01:44,566 --> 00:01:49,400 EDDIE ARRUZA HAS THAT STORY AND 51 00:01:46,066 --> 00:01:50,566 MORE OF WHAT IS MAKING NEWS IN 52 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,800 CHICAGO TONIGHT. 53 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,866 EDDIE? 54 00:01:50,566 --> 00:01:55,166 >> PHIL IT, A GRIM MILESTONE IN 55 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,766 CHICAGO'S HOMICIDE RATE. 56 00:01:53,866 --> 00:01:58,266 AFTER THE SHOOTING DEATHS OF 57 00:01:55,166 --> 00:02:01,700 THREE PEOPLE OVER THE LAST TWO 58 00:01:56,766 --> 00:02:03,333 DAYS THE NUMBER OF HOMICIDES IN 59 00:01:58,266 --> 00:02:05,000 THE CITY HAS RISEN ABOVE 600. 60 00:02:01,700 --> 00:02:07,166 THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW AND THE 61 00:02:03,333 --> 00:02:07,466 SECOND TIME IN THE LAST 14 YEARS 62 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,833 THAT THE TALLY HAS GONE THAT 63 00:02:07,166 --> 00:02:12,533 HIGH. 64 00:02:07,466 --> 00:02:15,100 WE HAVE MUCH MORE ON THIS STORY 65 00:02:08,833 --> 00:02:17,366 ON OUR WEBSITE. 66 00:02:12,533 --> 00:02:19,400 >>> CONGRESSMAN LUIS GUTIERREZ 67 00:02:15,100 --> 00:02:20,633 WAS AMONG SIX HOUSE MEMBERS 68 00:02:17,366 --> 00:02:21,233 INTRODUCING ARTICLES OF 69 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,600 IMPEACHMENT AGAINST DONALD 70 00:02:20,633 --> 00:02:25,433 TRUMP. 71 00:02:21,233 --> 00:02:27,433 THE CONGRESSMAN SAY THE 72 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,766 PRESIDENT'S FIRING OF COMEY 73 00:02:25,433 --> 00:02:30,700 AAMOUNTED TO OBSTRUCTION OF 74 00:02:27,433 --> 00:02:32,433 JUSTICE. 75 00:02:27,766 --> 00:02:33,866 THEY SAY Mr. TRUMP'S ATTACK ON 76 00:02:30,700 --> 00:02:35,433 THE MEDIA HIS ALLEGED 77 00:02:32,433 --> 00:02:36,566 UNDERMINING OF THE FEDERAL 78 00:02:33,866 --> 00:02:39,700 JUDICIARY AND HIS ALLEGED 79 00:02:35,433 --> 00:02:40,066 PROFITING FROM PROPERTIES AND 80 00:02:36,566 --> 00:02:41,233 BUSINESSES ARE ALL IMPEACHABLE 81 00:02:39,700 --> 00:02:43,266 OFFENSES. 82 00:02:40,066 --> 00:02:44,600 >> I THINK THE ONGOING 83 00:02:41,233 --> 00:02:46,333 INVESTIGATIONS WILL UNCOVER MORE 84 00:02:43,266 --> 00:02:47,633 INSTANCES WHERE THE PRESIDENT 85 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,900 HAS VIOLATED THE LAW AND 86 00:02:46,333 --> 00:02:51,300 VIOLATED THE PUBLIC TRUST. 87 00:02:47,633 --> 00:02:51,833 AND I'M GLAD THOSE 88 00:02:48,900 --> 00:02:53,566 INVESTIGATIONS ARE STILL MOVING 89 00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:55,200 FORWARD. 90 00:02:51,833 --> 00:02:59,300 DESPITE IN SOME INSTANCES 91 00:02:53,566 --> 00:03:01,100 ATTEMPTS BY THE PRESIDENT TO 92 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:03,033 SLOW THEM DOWN OR DERAIL THEM. 93 00:02:59,300 --> 00:03:04,833 >> WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY 94 00:03:01,100 --> 00:03:07,200 RESPONDED BY SAYING QUOTE IT'S 95 00:03:03,033 --> 00:03:09,566 DISAPPOINTING THAT EXTREMISTS IN 96 00:03:04,833 --> 00:03:09,933 CONGRESS STILL REFUSE TO ACCEPT 97 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,400 THE PRESIDENT'S VICTORY IN THE 98 00:03:09,566 --> 00:03:13,366 ELECTION. 99 00:03:09,933 --> 00:03:15,566 AND THE CONGRESSMEN ACKNOWLEDGE 100 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:19,066 THERE IS NO CHANCE THAT THE 101 00:03:13,366 --> 00:03:19,433 REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED CONGRESS 102 00:03:15,566 --> 00:03:21,066 WILL INITIATE IMPEACHMENT 103 00:03:19,066 --> 00:03:21,866 HEARINGS. 104 00:03:19,433 --> 00:03:24,300 AN UPDATE TO A STORY. 105 00:03:21,066 --> 00:03:26,033 ELIZABETH BRACKETT LOOKED INTO 106 00:03:21,866 --> 00:03:27,833 THE CONSTRUCTION DELAYS PLAGUING 107 00:03:24,300 --> 00:03:31,033 THE FLYOVER BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN 108 00:03:26,033 --> 00:03:33,000 BRIDGE ALONG THE LAKEFRONT AT 109 00:03:27,833 --> 00:03:35,633 GRAND AVENUE NEW NEAR NAVY PIER. 110 00:03:31,033 --> 00:03:36,766 THE PROJECT BROKE GROUND THREE 111 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,700 YEARS AGO AND ONE PHASE HAS BEEN 112 00:03:35,633 --> 00:03:39,000 COMPLETED SO FAR. 113 00:03:36,766 --> 00:03:41,666 BUT MAYOR RAHM EMANUEL SAYS THE 114 00:03:37,700 --> 00:03:42,566 PROJECT IS BACK ON TRACK AND 115 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:44,700 WILL BE FULLY FINISHED BY THIS 116 00:03:41,666 --> 00:03:46,566 TIME NEXT YEAR. 117 00:03:42,566 --> 00:03:48,166 >> THE VISION OF FINALLY GIVING 118 00:03:44,700 --> 00:03:50,600 PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY NOT TO 119 00:03:46,566 --> 00:03:52,833 HEAR SCREAMING ON YOUR LEFT OR 120 00:03:48,166 --> 00:03:55,266 ALL THE CONGESTION THAT HAPPENS 121 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:56,566 DOWN THERE BETWEEN BIKERS, 122 00:03:52,833 --> 00:04:00,466 RUNNERS AND CARS AND AUTO 123 00:03:55,266 --> 00:04:01,000 TRAFFIC THAT SAFETY GOAL THAT WE 124 00:03:56,566 --> 00:04:02,100 HAVE SET WILL FINALLY BE 125 00:04:00,466 --> 00:04:04,266 ACCOMPLISHED. 126 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:06,200 >> THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT 127 00:04:02,100 --> 00:04:08,433 IS EXPECTED TO COME IN AT AROUND 128 00:04:04,266 --> 00:04:09,800 $60 MILLION FUNDED MAINLY WITH 129 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:11,800 FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION GRANTS. 130 00:04:08,433 --> 00:04:14,033 >> WELL, STATE LAWMAKERS HELD A 131 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:16,533 HEARING TODAY TO DEBATE WHETHER 132 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:17,466 ILLINOIS SHOULD WITHDRAW FROM A 133 00:04:14,033 --> 00:04:19,000 MULTISTATE VOTER FRAUD PROGRAM 134 00:04:16,533 --> 00:04:20,800 CALLED CROSS-CHECK. 135 00:04:17,466 --> 00:04:23,333 THE SYSTEM RUN BY THE KANSAS 136 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:25,533 SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE 137 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:27,366 COMPARES VOTER REGISTRATION DATA 138 00:04:23,333 --> 00:04:29,666 TO DETECT IF VOTERS ARE 139 00:04:25,533 --> 00:04:31,866 REGISTERED IN ONE MORE LOCATION 140 00:04:27,366 --> 00:04:33,400 BUT IT'S COMING UNDER SCRUTINY 141 00:04:29,666 --> 00:04:36,133 BECAUSE OF SECURITY CONCERNS. 142 00:04:31,866 --> 00:04:36,466 AN EXPERT TOLD ELECTED OFFICIALS 143 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,700 THE SYSTEM IS VULNERABLE TO 144 00:04:36,133 --> 00:04:41,066 HACKERS. 145 00:04:36,466 --> 00:04:43,266 >> PROVIDE FOR INCREDIBLE LACK 146 00:04:38,700 --> 00:04:45,400 SECURITY FOR DATA AND THAT IS A 147 00:04:41,066 --> 00:04:45,733 BIG CONCERN IN THIS TIME OF 148 00:04:43,266 --> 00:04:50,066 VULNERABILITY WITH OUR COMPUTER 149 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:52,433 SYSTEMS. 150 00:04:45,733 --> 00:04:54,233 THE STATE IS WOEFULLY BEHIND. 151 00:04:50,066 --> 00:04:55,566 >> THE ELECTIONS BOARD MAY 152 00:04:52,433 --> 00:04:57,533 DECIDE MONDAY WHETHER ILLINOIS 153 00:04:54,233 --> 00:05:01,033 WILL LEAVE CROSS-CHECK. 154 00:04:55,566 --> 00:05:04,566 >> AS FOR THE WEATHER TONIGHT A 155 00:04:57,533 --> 00:05:05,033 LOW AROUND 30 AND TOMORROW 156 00:05:01,033 --> 00:05:07,433 PARTLY SUNNY AND A HIGH AROUND 157 00:05:04,566 --> 00:05:09,566 40. 158 00:05:05,033 --> 00:05:12,300 >> FOR TWO YEARS FEMALE PUBLIC 159 00:05:07,433 --> 00:05:14,933 DEFENDERS AND LAW CLERKS SAY 160 00:05:09,566 --> 00:05:17,000 INMATES AND DETAINEES TARGETED 161 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:20,666 THEM WITH ACTS OF SEXUAL 162 00:05:14,933 --> 00:05:22,300 MISCONDUCT IN JAIL. 163 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:23,700 THEY HAVE FILED A FEDERAL SEXUAL 164 00:05:20,666 --> 00:05:25,233 HARASSMENT LAWSUIT TO PUT AN END 165 00:05:22,300 --> 00:05:26,766 TO A TOXIC ENVIRONMENT. 166 00:05:23,700 --> 00:05:31,000 THE ATTORNEYS APPEARED IN 167 00:05:25,233 --> 00:05:31,800 DISTRICT COURT TODAY. 168 00:05:26,766 --> 00:05:33,966 >> WHEN WOMEN HAVE TO ENGAGE IN 169 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:36,666 CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATIONS WITH 170 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:39,433 THEIR CLIENTS AND OTHER 171 00:05:33,966 --> 00:05:39,900 DETAINEES SEEK TO ABUSE THEM 172 00:05:36,666 --> 00:05:42,366 THEY MASTURBATE IN THEIR 173 00:05:39,433 --> 00:05:44,300 PRESENCE. 174 00:05:39,900 --> 00:05:48,066 ONE INCIDENT THE MASTURBATION 175 00:05:42,366 --> 00:05:50,800 WAS ON HER. 176 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:52,233 AND IT'S THREATENING SEXUALLY. 177 00:05:48,066 --> 00:05:53,400 AND EVERYDAY THEY ARE THREATENED 178 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,933 WITH ASSAULT AND BATTERY. 179 00:05:52,233 --> 00:05:56,300 CAROL MARIN JOINS US NOW. 180 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:59,433 WHO IS SUING AND WHAT ARE THEY 181 00:05:55,933 --> 00:06:01,466 ALLEGING? 182 00:05:56,300 --> 00:06:03,266 >> THEY ARE FEMALE ASSISTANT 183 00:05:59,433 --> 00:06:05,200 PUBLIC DEFENDERS AND LAW CLERKS. 184 00:06:01,466 --> 00:06:07,366 ONE OF WHOM HAS BEEN WITH THE 185 00:06:03,266 --> 00:06:09,100 OFFICE SINCE 1986. 186 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:10,600 ON A GOOD DAY THEIR JOB IS A 187 00:06:07,366 --> 00:06:12,600 HARD JOB AS THEY SOMETIMES CAN 188 00:06:09,100 --> 00:06:14,166 NOT GO HOME TO THEIR FAMILIES 189 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:17,500 AND EXPLAIN THAT THEY DEFENDED A 190 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:17,800 FAMILY THAT DISMEMBERED A BABY 191 00:06:14,166 --> 00:06:19,766 AND TRIED TO FRY IT TO COVER THE 192 00:06:17,500 --> 00:06:22,433 CRIME. 193 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:23,933 THEY HAVE HARD JOBS MADE HARDER 194 00:06:19,766 --> 00:06:26,800 IN THE LAST TWO YEARS BY THE 195 00:06:22,433 --> 00:06:30,033 FACT WHILE THEY ARE TRYING TO 196 00:06:23,933 --> 00:06:32,600 TALK TO A CLIENT IN A LOCK UP IN 197 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:35,566 THE COURTROOM OR THE JAIL OTHER 198 00:06:30,033 --> 00:06:38,866 DETAINEES WILL THROUGH THE GLASS 199 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:41,166 WINDOWS OR THE BARS BE 200 00:06:35,566 --> 00:06:43,733 MASTURBATING, EXPOSITIONS -- 201 00:06:38,866 --> 00:06:45,100 EXPOSING THEMSELVES, SAYING 202 00:06:41,166 --> 00:06:46,833 HORRIBLE THINGS MAKING FOR A 203 00:06:43,733 --> 00:06:48,533 TOXIC WORK ENVIRONMENT MAKES 204 00:06:45,100 --> 00:06:51,266 THEM NOT WANTING TO GO TO WORK. 205 00:06:46,833 --> 00:06:52,900 >> WHO IS BEING SUED? 206 00:06:48,533 --> 00:06:55,000 >> THEY ARE SUING SHERIFF DART 207 00:06:51,266 --> 00:06:56,200 BECAUSE IT IS HIS JOB TO MAKE 208 00:06:52,900 --> 00:06:58,066 THE JAIL SAFE AND THEIR BOSS, 209 00:06:55,000 --> 00:07:00,066 AMY CAMPANELLI HEAD OF THE 210 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:02,733 PUBLIC DEFENDERS WHOM THEY HAVE 211 00:06:58,066 --> 00:07:04,066 ARGUED DOES NOT HAVE THEIR BACK. 212 00:07:00,066 --> 00:07:05,366 THEY WANT MORE ACTION AND MORE 213 00:07:02,733 --> 00:07:07,400 CONSEQUENCES CREATED BY THOSE 214 00:07:04,066 --> 00:07:08,366 TWO PEOPLE. 215 00:07:05,366 --> 00:07:11,166 >> A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT THEY 216 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:13,766 WANT. 217 00:07:08,366 --> 00:07:14,833 IT SEEMS LIKE COULD A PHYSICAL 218 00:07:11,166 --> 00:07:17,400 CHANGE IN THE FACILITY MAKE 219 00:07:13,766 --> 00:07:19,333 THINGS BETTER? 220 00:07:14,833 --> 00:07:21,566 >> YOU COULD SO IN THE LOCK UPS, 221 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:23,766 YOU ARE LIKE A BULLPEN. 222 00:07:19,333 --> 00:07:24,533 SO A DEFENDER WILL BE TALKING TO 223 00:07:21,566 --> 00:07:26,566 HER CLIENT BUT THERE ARE OTHER 224 00:07:23,766 --> 00:07:27,866 DETAINEES AROUND. 225 00:07:24,533 --> 00:07:29,300 COULD THERE BE A SEPARATE ROOM? 226 00:07:26,566 --> 00:07:31,333 YES, BUT THAT IS GOING TO 227 00:07:27,866 --> 00:07:32,966 REQUIRE A DEPUTY TO LEAVE THE 228 00:07:29,300 --> 00:07:35,000 COURTROOM AND GO TO THE SEPARATE 229 00:07:31,333 --> 00:07:35,300 ROOM AND JUDGES WANT DEPUTIES IN 230 00:07:32,966 --> 00:07:37,233 THE COURTROOM TO PROTECT PEOPLE 231 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:40,066 THERE. 232 00:07:35,300 --> 00:07:42,266 SO IT IS A STAFFING ISSUE. 233 00:07:37,233 --> 00:07:44,866 IN THE JAIL, THEY ARE IN A GLASS 234 00:07:40,066 --> 00:07:47,333 CUBE TO TALK TO THEIR CLIENTS 235 00:07:42,266 --> 00:07:48,066 AND DETAINEES ROAM FREELY IN THE 236 00:07:44,866 --> 00:07:51,533 DAY ROOM AND CAN PRESS UP 237 00:07:47,333 --> 00:07:52,133 AGAINST THE GLASS. 238 00:07:48,066 --> 00:07:54,133 IT IS NOT AN EASY SITUATION TO 239 00:07:51,533 --> 00:07:54,466 CONTROL. 240 00:07:52,133 --> 00:07:55,633 BUT THEY ARGUE IT'S OUT OF 241 00:07:54,133 --> 00:07:57,966 CONTROL. 242 00:07:54,466 --> 00:08:01,100 SHERIFF DART SAID HE IS DOING 243 00:07:55,633 --> 00:08:03,400 ALL THAT HE CAN INCLUDING 244 00:07:57,966 --> 00:08:04,666 SPECIAL UNIFORMS FOR INMATES 245 00:08:01,100 --> 00:08:05,100 THAT EXPOSE THEMSELVES SO THEY 246 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:08,466 CANNOT UNZIP THEM. 247 00:08:04,666 --> 00:08:08,833 CONSEQUENCES. 248 00:08:05,100 --> 00:08:10,133 HE WANTS THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS TO 249 00:08:08,466 --> 00:08:11,500 CHARGE -- 250 00:08:08,833 --> 00:08:13,233 CREATE CRIMINAL CHARGES. 251 00:08:10,133 --> 00:08:14,233 PUBLIC DEFENDERS SAY THE PROBLEM 252 00:08:11,500 --> 00:08:16,633 WITH THAT IS WE'RE DEFENDING 253 00:08:13,233 --> 00:08:17,166 THEM IN COURT. 254 00:08:14,233 --> 00:08:18,833 WE CANNOT SUE THEM AND DEFEND 255 00:08:16,633 --> 00:08:22,233 THEM. 256 00:08:17,166 --> 00:08:25,466 >> GETTING BACK TO THE PUBLIC 257 00:08:18,833 --> 00:08:27,000 DEFENDERS AND THEIR LEGAL 258 00:08:22,233 --> 00:08:27,300 ASSISTANCE, THE FEMALE PUBLIC 259 00:08:25,466 --> 00:08:29,500 DEFENDERS THEY ARE SUING HER OWN 260 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,633 BOSS. 261 00:08:27,300 --> 00:08:32,933 HOW CAN YOU DO THAT? 262 00:08:29,500 --> 00:08:35,300 >> PART OF IT THEY SAY THEY 263 00:08:31,633 --> 00:08:38,266 BROUGHT THE COMPLAINTS TO HER 264 00:08:32,933 --> 00:08:40,033 AND SHE SAID LARGELY THE SAFETY 265 00:08:35,300 --> 00:08:42,533 ISSUE IS IN DART'S HANDS. 266 00:08:38,266 --> 00:08:44,966 AMY CAMPANELLI SAID SHE WORKED 267 00:08:40,033 --> 00:08:46,466 VERY HARD WITH DART AND WITH THE 268 00:08:42,533 --> 00:08:48,900 CHIEF JUDGE TIM EVANS TO CREATE 269 00:08:44,966 --> 00:08:50,333 A MUCH SAFER CIRCUMSTANCE AND 270 00:08:46,466 --> 00:08:51,866 WHEN THEY FILED THEIR FIRST 271 00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:54,266 ACTION, SHE SAID YOU CANNOT GO 272 00:08:50,333 --> 00:08:56,266 INTO THE LOCK UPS ANYMORE. 273 00:08:51,866 --> 00:08:58,000 SHE SAID IT'S NOT -- 274 00:08:54,266 --> 00:08:59,666 SHE IS NOT GOING TO ALLOW THE 275 00:08:56,266 --> 00:09:01,500 FEMALE PUBLIC DEFENDERS TO VISIT 276 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:03,000 THE CLIENTS IN THE LOCK UPS. 277 00:08:59,666 --> 00:09:04,033 WHICH THEY DO NOT CONSIDER A 278 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:06,833 SOLUTION BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVE 279 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,200 TO REPRESENT THOSE PEOPLE. 280 00:09:04,033 --> 00:09:09,100 THEY BELIEVE THE SOLUTION RESTS 281 00:09:06,833 --> 00:09:11,400 ELSEWHERE. 282 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:12,700 >> THERE IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT 283 00:09:09,100 --> 00:09:14,000 IS CALLED SAVAGE LIFE INVOLVED. 284 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:16,433 WHAT IS SAVAGE LIFE? 285 00:09:12,700 --> 00:09:19,366 >> IT IS A JAIL GANG. 286 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:21,866 IT DOESN'T HAVE AN AFFILIATION 287 00:09:16,433 --> 00:09:24,233 LIKE A GANG, IT IS A JAILHOUSE 288 00:09:19,366 --> 00:09:25,300 GANG WHOSE GOAL IS CHAOS AND 289 00:09:21,866 --> 00:09:27,466 THEY ARE IN THE SUPER MAX UNITS 290 00:09:24,233 --> 00:09:30,333 DIVISIONS 9 AND 10. 291 00:09:25,300 --> 00:09:32,733 AND FRANKLY SOME PEOPLE SAY THEY 292 00:09:27,466 --> 00:09:33,100 GIVE POINTS TO INMATES WHO 293 00:09:30,333 --> 00:09:34,766 ENGAGE IN THE MOST HORRIFIC 294 00:09:32,733 --> 00:09:36,433 BEHAVIOR. 295 00:09:33,100 --> 00:09:38,300 SO SAVAGE LIFE MANY OF THESE 296 00:09:34,766 --> 00:09:40,666 PEOPLE ARE CHARGED WITH SUCH 297 00:09:36,433 --> 00:09:43,400 SERIOUS CRIMES, IF THE SHERIFF 298 00:09:38,300 --> 00:09:44,466 OR A PUBLIC DEFENDER SAYS WE ARE 299 00:09:40,666 --> 00:09:45,600 GOING TO CHARGE YOU WITH 300 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:48,066 INDECENT EXPOSURE. 301 00:09:44,466 --> 00:09:50,266 SO WHAT. 302 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:51,600 THE COURT SYSTEM HAS ME HERE FOR 303 00:09:48,066 --> 00:09:51,933 A LONG PERIOD OF TIME ON A 304 00:09:50,266 --> 00:09:53,233 MISDEMEANOR IT'S JUST ANOTHER 305 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,366 CHARGE. 306 00:09:51,933 --> 00:09:57,166 >> PART OF THE PROBLEM HAS TO DO 307 00:09:53,233 --> 00:09:59,433 WITH INMATES ARE THERE FOR 308 00:09:55,366 --> 00:10:00,866 LONGER THAN WHAT REALLY THEY ARE 309 00:09:57,166 --> 00:10:03,466 SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. 310 00:09:59,433 --> 00:10:05,766 >> SMITH WHO RUNS THE JAIL SAID 311 00:10:00,866 --> 00:10:07,333 THAT IS A PROBLEM AND THAT YOUNG 312 00:10:03,466 --> 00:10:08,733 MEN LANGUISH FOR SO LONG BECAUSE 313 00:10:05,766 --> 00:10:12,833 OF THE SLOW WHEELS TURNING IN 314 00:10:07,333 --> 00:10:14,366 THE COURT SYSTEM THAT IT BECOMES 315 00:10:08,733 --> 00:10:15,300 A KIND OF POWDER KEG, ANOTHER 316 00:10:12,833 --> 00:10:18,266 CIRCLE OF HELL AND THAT THAT IS 317 00:10:14,366 --> 00:10:20,000 PART OF THE PROBLEM. 318 00:10:15,300 --> 00:10:22,433 >> WHAT IS NEXT? 319 00:10:18,266 --> 00:10:23,933 >> EVERYBODY GOES BACK TO COURT 320 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:26,266 ON NOVEMBER 30TH AND DECEMBER 321 00:10:22,433 --> 00:10:27,733 FIRST IN FEDERAL COURT LOOKING 322 00:10:23,933 --> 00:10:30,433 FOR A PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION. 323 00:10:26,266 --> 00:10:32,266 THE JUDGE WILL TAKE TESTIMONY 324 00:10:27,733 --> 00:10:34,700 FROM PUBLIC DEFENDERS AND FEMALE 325 00:10:30,433 --> 00:10:39,300 SHERIFFS DEPUTIES WHO END UP IN 326 00:10:32,266 --> 00:10:42,100 VERY MUCH THE SAME POSSIBLY 327 00:10:34,700 --> 00:10:43,600 WORSE SITUATIONS WITH BODILY 328 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:44,766 FLUIDS BEING THROWN AT THEM, 329 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:46,466 MASTURBATION, BEING GRABBED AND 330 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:48,200 PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED. 331 00:10:44,766 --> 00:10:50,433 >> SOUNDS HELLISH, THANK YOU. 332 00:10:46,466 --> 00:10:51,400 >> AND NOW TO PARIS SCHUTZ AND 333 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,733 SOMEONE WHO KNOWS MOSCOW INSIDE 334 00:10:50,433 --> 00:10:53,400 AND OUT. 335 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,900 PARIS? 336 00:10:52,733 --> 00:10:57,300 >> PHIL, PRESIDENT TRUMP 337 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:58,733 RECENTLY SAID HE BELIEVED 338 00:10:54,900 --> 00:11:01,400 VLADIMIR PUTIN'S DENIALS OF ANY 339 00:10:57,300 --> 00:11:03,200 RUSSIAN INVOLVE. 340 00:10:58,733 --> 00:11:05,066 IN INFLUENCING THE 2016 341 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:06,733 ELECTIONS AND SLAMMED U.S. 342 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:08,633 INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES THAT 343 00:11:05,066 --> 00:11:10,800 CONCLUDED OTHERWISE ONLY TO 344 00:11:06,733 --> 00:11:11,733 PARTIALLY WALK BACK THE COMMENTS 345 00:11:08,633 --> 00:11:13,433 AND THE INVESTIGATION BY SPECIAL 346 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,800 COUNSEL ROBERT MUELLER. 347 00:11:11,733 --> 00:11:16,533 DID THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN 348 00:11:13,433 --> 00:11:18,833 COORDINATE WITH THE RUSSIANS? 349 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,833 WHAT IS PUTIN'S END GAME? 350 00:11:16,533 --> 00:11:22,833 AND WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF THIS 351 00:11:18,833 --> 00:11:24,566 MURKY RELATIONSHIP? 352 00:11:19,833 --> 00:11:26,900 JOINING US IS HEDRICK SMITH A 353 00:11:22,833 --> 00:11:29,533 PULITZER PRIZE WINNING 354 00:11:24,566 --> 00:11:32,733 JOURNALIST AND FORMER EDITOR FOR 355 00:11:26,900 --> 00:11:35,033 "THE NEW YORK TIMES" AND 356 00:11:29,533 --> 00:11:37,266 CORRESPONDENT FOR FRONTLINE AND 357 00:11:32,733 --> 00:11:39,433 AUTHOR OF THE BEST SELLING BOOK 358 00:11:35,033 --> 00:11:40,566 THE RUSSIANS. 359 00:11:37,266 --> 00:11:42,166 HEDRICK SMITH WELL KEMP TO 360 00:11:39,433 --> 00:11:44,366 "CHICAGO TONIGHT" -- 361 00:11:40,566 --> 00:11:45,800 WELCOME TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT." 362 00:11:42,166 --> 00:11:48,366 >> YOUR REACTION TO WHAT HAS 363 00:11:44,366 --> 00:11:49,466 BEEN REPORTED ABOUT RUSSIAN 364 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:50,733 INFLUENCE IN THE 2016 ELECTIONS? 365 00:11:48,366 --> 00:11:53,900 >> WELL, WHAT I THINK IS 366 00:11:49,466 --> 00:11:57,133 INTERESTING IS THAT ROBERT 367 00:11:50,733 --> 00:11:58,066 MUELLER HAS BEGUN TO PUT 368 00:11:53,900 --> 00:11:59,600 TOGETHER A TAPESTRY OF 369 00:11:57,133 --> 00:12:01,333 CONNECTIONS. 370 00:11:58,066 --> 00:12:02,933 NOT JUST ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF 371 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:04,833 SESSIONS HAVING MET WITH THE 372 00:12:01,333 --> 00:12:07,000 RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR OR MICHAEL 373 00:12:02,933 --> 00:12:07,866 FLYNN THE FORMER NATIONAL 374 00:12:04,833 --> 00:12:11,100 SECURITY ADVISER IT IS A BUNCH 375 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:12,600 OF PEOPLE. 376 00:12:07,866 --> 00:12:13,733 PEOPLE GOING TO MOSCOW AND 377 00:12:11,100 --> 00:12:15,033 TALKING ABOUT REAL ESTATE DEALS. 378 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:18,333 TRUMP'S ATTORNEY AND SOMEBODY 379 00:12:13,733 --> 00:12:18,633 ELSE AND TALKING ABOUT SETTING 380 00:12:15,033 --> 00:12:19,666 UP A MEETING BETWEEN TRUMP AND 381 00:12:18,333 --> 00:12:21,033 PUTIN. 382 00:12:18,633 --> 00:12:23,266 IT GOES ON AND ON. 383 00:12:19,666 --> 00:12:25,566 AND WHAT YOU ARE BEGINNING TO 384 00:12:21,033 --> 00:12:26,800 SEE IT IS A PATTERN. 385 00:12:23,266 --> 00:12:29,300 IT'S HARD FOR PEOPLE TO DENY 386 00:12:25,566 --> 00:12:31,700 WHAT HAS HAPPENED. 387 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:32,700 AND YOU JUST THE OTHER DAY HAD 388 00:12:29,300 --> 00:12:35,533 GENERAL SESSIONS CHANGING HIS 389 00:12:31,700 --> 00:12:37,600 STORY. 390 00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:41,333 HE FORGOT THAT HE MET WITH THE 391 00:12:35,533 --> 00:12:43,600 RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR AND HE FORGOT 392 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:46,700 HE WAS AT A MEETING THAT 393 00:12:41,333 --> 00:12:48,766 PAPADOPOULOS SAID HE WAS -- 394 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:50,966 IT RAISES CONSTANT SUSPICIONS. 395 00:12:46,700 --> 00:12:51,333 AND IT TURNS OUT THAT DONALD 396 00:12:48,766 --> 00:12:52,833 TRUMP, JR. WAS IN TOUCH WITH 397 00:12:50,966 --> 00:12:55,233 WIKILEAKS. 398 00:12:51,333 --> 00:12:58,466 MORE AND MORE IS COMING OUT. 399 00:12:52,833 --> 00:13:00,533 >> IF WE ARE TO BELIEVE THIS WAS 400 00:12:55,233 --> 00:13:02,900 COORDINATED TO THE LIEST -- 401 00:12:58,466 --> 00:13:05,200 HIGHEST LEVELS OF KREMLIN WHY 402 00:13:00,533 --> 00:13:05,833 DID PUTIN DO THIS? 403 00:13:02,900 --> 00:13:08,200 >> I THINK HE IS ENGAGED IN 404 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:10,066 PUTIN'S REVENGE. 405 00:13:05,833 --> 00:13:12,200 FROM THE RUSSIAN STANDPOINT THE 406 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:14,133 END OF THE COLD WAR WE PUSHED 407 00:13:10,066 --> 00:13:16,866 THE BORDERS OF NATO UP AGAINST 408 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:18,166 THE RUSSIAN BORDER. 409 00:13:14,133 --> 00:13:19,900 NATO MEMBERS AND LITHUANIA AND 410 00:13:16,866 --> 00:13:23,600 PEOPLE FROM THAT PART OF THE 411 00:13:18,166 --> 00:13:26,233 WORLD LIVE IN CHICAGO AND OTHER 412 00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:28,733 CITIES IN AMERICA IT'S 150 MILES 413 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:30,133 FROM ST. PETERSBURG. 414 00:13:26,233 --> 00:13:33,133 THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION TODAY. 415 00:13:28,733 --> 00:13:35,733 THERE IS LOTS OF EASTERN EUROPE 416 00:13:30,133 --> 00:13:37,300 IS NOW IN THE EUROPEAN UNION. 417 00:13:33,133 --> 00:13:40,400 THE EU AND THEN THE BIG ONE FOR 418 00:13:35,733 --> 00:13:45,266 PUTIN WAS UKRAINE. 419 00:13:37,300 --> 00:13:48,233 THERE WAS A LEADER THERE WHO WAS 420 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:49,733 A PRO MOSCOW, PUPPET OF PUTIN 421 00:13:45,266 --> 00:13:50,933 AND WAS OVER THROWN BY RIOTS AND 422 00:13:48,233 --> 00:13:52,233 DEMONSTRATIONS AND PUTIN'S 423 00:13:49,733 --> 00:13:53,600 THINKS THE C.I.A. DID IT. 424 00:13:50,933 --> 00:13:55,466 AND HE IS HITTING BACK. 425 00:13:52,233 --> 00:13:56,966 HE IS COMING BACK. 426 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,400 AND WE HAD THE EPISODE OF 427 00:13:55,466 --> 00:13:59,566 HILLARY CLINTON ADVOCATING 428 00:13:56,966 --> 00:14:01,266 DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS NOT UNUSUAL 429 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,400 FOR THE UNITED STATES TO 430 00:13:59,566 --> 00:14:02,733 ADVOCATE DEMOCRATIC 431 00:14:01,266 --> 00:14:06,633 PARLIAMENTARY ELECTIONS IN 432 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:07,433 RUSSIA. 433 00:14:02,733 --> 00:14:08,733 BUT PUTIN SEES THIS AS AN 434 00:14:06,633 --> 00:14:11,033 ASSAULT ON RUSSIA. 435 00:14:07,433 --> 00:14:13,466 AND YOU HAVE THE SITUATION WHERE 436 00:14:08,733 --> 00:14:16,366 THE RUSSIANS FOR A DECADE OR 437 00:14:11,033 --> 00:14:19,033 TWO, WERE A SUPERPOWER ON A PAR 438 00:14:13,466 --> 00:14:20,766 WITH THE UNITED STATES. 439 00:14:16,366 --> 00:14:22,700 THERE WERE MEETINGS, REAGAN AND 440 00:14:19,033 --> 00:14:26,133 GORBACHEV AND IT WENT ON AND ON. 441 00:14:20,766 --> 00:14:27,900 AND SUDDENLY THEY ARE DOWNGRADED 442 00:14:22,700 --> 00:14:28,200 THEY ARE NO LONGER A SUPERPOWER. 443 00:14:26,133 --> 00:14:29,833 CHINA IS THE COUNTRY TO WORRY 444 00:14:27,900 --> 00:14:30,366 ABOUT. 445 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,966 AND SO YOU HAVE A NATION WITH 446 00:14:29,833 --> 00:14:33,700 WOUNDED PRIDE. 447 00:14:30,366 --> 00:14:35,500 YOU HAVE A LEADER WHO FEELS AS 448 00:14:31,966 --> 00:14:36,066 THOUGH HE IS UNDER PRESSURE FROM 449 00:14:33,700 --> 00:14:38,500 THE WEST AND HE HAS A CHANCE TO 450 00:14:35,500 --> 00:14:40,366 LASH BACK. 451 00:14:36,066 --> 00:14:43,433 SO HE IS NOW FOUND WEAKNESS IN 452 00:14:38,500 --> 00:14:44,800 OUR DEMOCRACY THAT HE CAN 453 00:14:40,366 --> 00:14:45,966 PENETRATE IT USE WIKILEAKS AND 454 00:14:43,433 --> 00:14:47,366 Facebook AND GOOGLE AND IS 455 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,200 DRIVING US CRAZY. 456 00:14:45,966 --> 00:14:49,933 >> WHAT DO YOU THINK HE WANTS 457 00:14:47,366 --> 00:14:51,766 OUT OF THE RELATIONSHIP WITH 458 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,933 TRUMP AND THE UNITED STATES NOW? 459 00:14:49,933 --> 00:14:53,266 >> WELL, I THINK IT'S MORE THAN 460 00:14:51,766 --> 00:14:55,200 JUST TRUMP AND THE UNITED 461 00:14:52,933 --> 00:14:56,033 STATES. 462 00:14:53,266 --> 00:14:58,900 I THINK HE WANTS TO BE SEEN AS A 463 00:14:55,200 --> 00:15:02,066 GREAT POWER. 464 00:14:56,033 --> 00:15:05,400 TAKE US SERIOUSLY AS IF WE ARE 465 00:14:58,900 --> 00:15:06,900 NUMBER TWO AGAIN THIS IS THE 466 00:15:02,066 --> 00:15:09,566 AVIS-HEFORTS COMPLEX. 467 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:12,200 >> AVIS ALWAYS SAID WE ARE 468 00:15:06,900 --> 00:15:13,133 NUMBER TWO SO WE TRY HARDER. 469 00:15:09,566 --> 00:15:14,800 AND RUSSIA SAYS WE ARE GOING TO 470 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:17,766 TRY HARDER. 471 00:15:13,133 --> 00:15:18,066 HE PROBABLY WANTS AN AGREEMENT 472 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:19,933 THAT YOU CRANE WOULD NEVER JOIN 473 00:15:17,766 --> 00:15:22,033 NATO. 474 00:15:18,066 --> 00:15:24,600 AND UKRAINE IS TO RUSSIA AS 475 00:15:19,933 --> 00:15:28,633 CANADA IS TO AMERICA. 476 00:15:22,033 --> 00:15:35,866 COMMON BORDER, COMMON HISTORY, 477 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:37,633 ANGELO SAXON IN OUR CASE, IN 478 00:15:28,633 --> 00:15:42,566 THEIR CASE SLOF VEHICLE SLOFFIC 479 00:15:35,866 --> 00:15:44,500 SLAV VEHICLE. 480 00:15:37,633 --> 00:15:44,866 AND WE ARE TIGHTENING 481 00:15:42,566 --> 00:15:47,733 SANCTIONS, HE WE DON'T TRUST 482 00:15:44,500 --> 00:15:49,333 YOU. 483 00:15:44,866 --> 00:15:49,733 >> IN A WAY THIS MOVE TO 484 00:15:47,733 --> 00:15:50,400 INTERFERE IN THE ELECTION IS 485 00:15:49,333 --> 00:15:52,366 BACKFIRING? 486 00:15:49,733 --> 00:15:52,733 OR SUCCEEDING? 487 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,133 >> I DO NOT THINK HE IS 488 00:15:52,366 --> 00:15:53,533 STEADYING. 489 00:15:52,733 --> 00:15:54,500 -- 490 00:15:53,133 --> 00:15:55,700 SUCCEEDING. 491 00:15:53,533 --> 00:15:56,900 LOOK AT THE VOTES IN CONGRESS 492 00:15:54,500 --> 00:15:58,066 THE VOTES YOU HAVE IN CONGRESS 493 00:15:55,700 --> 00:16:01,266 ARE OVERWHELMING. 494 00:15:56,900 --> 00:16:02,933 >> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS 495 00:15:58,066 --> 00:16:04,833 YET TO INSTITUTE THE SANCTIONS. 496 00:16:01,266 --> 00:16:07,566 >> IN TERMS OF POLITICS HE 497 00:16:02,933 --> 00:16:09,566 RAISED THE BACK OF SENATORS LIKE 498 00:16:04,833 --> 00:16:12,233 JOHN McCAIN AND BOB CORKER 499 00:16:07,566 --> 00:16:14,166 SAYING THE RUSSIANS ARE 500 00:16:09,566 --> 00:16:15,900 INTERFERING WE NEED TO TIGHTEN 501 00:16:12,233 --> 00:16:16,800 SANCTIONS AND THE INTELLIGENCE 502 00:16:14,166 --> 00:16:18,200 COMMUNITY SAYING THE RUSSIANS 503 00:16:15,900 --> 00:16:19,800 ARE PROBING. 504 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:21,300 AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE 505 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:24,066 VULNERABILITY OF OUR ELECTION 506 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:25,566 SYSTEM PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT 507 00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:27,733 THE ELECTION OF 2018 WILL THE 508 00:16:24,066 --> 00:16:29,166 RUSSIANS INTERFERE AGAIN? 509 00:16:25,566 --> 00:16:31,566 WILL THE VOTE COUNT BE JIMMIED 510 00:16:27,733 --> 00:16:31,900 BY RUSSIAN HACKING? 511 00:16:29,166 --> 00:16:33,300 I MEAN NO, I DO NOT THINK IT'S 512 00:16:31,566 --> 00:16:35,766 WORKING. 513 00:16:31,900 --> 00:16:37,100 >> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF PRESIDENT 514 00:16:33,300 --> 00:16:38,600 TRUMP'S WILLINGNESS TO CRITICIZE 515 00:16:35,766 --> 00:16:39,466 NEARLY EVERYBODY EXCEPT FOR 516 00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:43,333 VLADIMIR PUTIN TO DEFER TO 517 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:45,133 VLADIMIR PUTIN? 518 00:16:39,466 --> 00:16:47,166 >> IT IS ASTONISHING. 519 00:16:43,333 --> 00:16:48,433 I WAS THE WASHINGTON BUREAU 520 00:16:45,133 --> 00:16:51,866 CHIEF FOR THE TIMES SO I COVER 521 00:16:47,166 --> 00:16:54,366 AMERICAN DOMESTIC POLITICS THE 522 00:16:48,433 --> 00:16:56,900 IDEA THAT AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT 523 00:16:51,866 --> 00:17:00,333 WOULD CRITICIZE HIS OWN MAJORITY 524 00:16:54,366 --> 00:17:02,100 LEADER LIKE JOHN McCAIN AND 525 00:16:56,900 --> 00:17:03,133 BOB CORKER AND THEN SAY PUTIN 526 00:17:00,333 --> 00:17:05,266 TOLD ME THEY DID NOT INTERFERE 527 00:17:02,100 --> 00:17:06,566 AND I TRUST HIM. 528 00:17:03,133 --> 00:17:09,866 THE MAN SEEMS SERIOUS. 529 00:17:05,266 --> 00:17:12,200 IS ASTONISHING. 530 00:17:06,566 --> 00:17:13,266 AND I THINK FROM JUST AS A 531 00:17:09,866 --> 00:17:13,733 JOURNALIST LOOKING AT IT -- 532 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,133 >> YOU DO NOT BELIEVE VLADIMIR 533 00:17:13,266 --> 00:17:17,866 PUTIN? 534 00:17:13,733 --> 00:17:19,600 >> NOT FOR A MOMENT. 535 00:17:15,133 --> 00:17:21,300 WE DO NEED TO REMEMBER HE WAS A 536 00:17:17,866 --> 00:17:22,766 KGB COLONEL BEFORE HE MADE HIS 537 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,100 WAY INTO THE POLITICAL SYSTEM. 538 00:17:21,300 --> 00:17:24,933 I DO NOT BELIEVE HIM FOR A 539 00:17:22,766 --> 00:17:27,133 MOMENT. 540 00:17:23,100 --> 00:17:27,600 AND I TRUST THE AMERICAN 541 00:17:24,933 --> 00:17:29,466 INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES FROM BOTH 542 00:17:27,133 --> 00:17:32,366 ADMINISTRATIONS. 543 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:32,666 TRUMP IS IMPLYING THIS WAS JUST 544 00:17:29,466 --> 00:17:34,333 THE OBAMA APPOINTED C.I.A. 545 00:17:32,366 --> 00:17:37,800 CHIEF. 546 00:17:32,666 --> 00:17:38,300 AND HIS OWN PEOPLE HAVE COME IN 547 00:17:34,333 --> 00:17:41,533 AND THEY HAVE ENDORSED THE 548 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:43,966 ASSESSMENTS. 549 00:17:38,300 --> 00:17:45,033 I MEAN SEEMS TO ME FOR TRUMP IT 550 00:17:41,533 --> 00:17:47,233 INCREASES THE SUSPENSION THAT 551 00:17:43,966 --> 00:17:48,466 SOMEHOW THERE IS A DEAL OR THERE 552 00:17:45,033 --> 00:17:49,200 IS A HIDDEN RELATIONSHIP OR 553 00:17:47,233 --> 00:17:51,533 THERE'S SOMETHING COVERT GOING 554 00:17:48,466 --> 00:17:52,666 ON HERE. 555 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:55,700 >> AND DOES THIS LEND 556 00:17:51,533 --> 00:17:57,866 CREDIBILITY IN YOUR MIND TO THE 557 00:17:52,666 --> 00:18:00,600 CLAIMS BROUGHT UP IN THE NOW 558 00:17:55,700 --> 00:18:02,766 INFAMOUS DOSSIER PRODUCED BY 559 00:17:57,866 --> 00:18:05,700 THAT FORMER MI6 AGENT MICHAEL 560 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:07,900 STEEL THAT THERE'S BLACKMAIL ON 561 00:18:02,766 --> 00:18:10,000 TRUMP AND THAT THE RUSSIANS HAVE 562 00:18:05,700 --> 00:18:10,800 BEEN GROOMING TRUMP FOR YEARS? 563 00:18:07,900 --> 00:18:11,700 >> I DO NOT THINK HE IS A 564 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,066 MENTORING CANDIDATE. 565 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,766 I DO NOT BUY THAT. 566 00:18:11,700 --> 00:18:18,900 BUT I DO THINK THAT THE RUSSIANS 567 00:18:14,066 --> 00:18:21,066 HAVE BEEN SMART ABOUT TRUMP. 568 00:18:15,766 --> 00:18:23,733 THEY HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE 569 00:18:18,900 --> 00:18:25,433 LAUNDERING, RUSSIAN MAFIA, MONEY 570 00:18:21,066 --> 00:18:26,800 BY BUYING CONDOS IN TRUMP TOWER 571 00:18:23,733 --> 00:18:29,166 AND TRUMP OWNED REAL ESTATE IN 572 00:18:25,433 --> 00:18:30,833 NEW YORK. 573 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:32,400 SO HE IS HELPING THEM BY TURNING 574 00:18:29,166 --> 00:18:33,766 A BLIND EYE TO THE SOURCE OF THE 575 00:18:30,833 --> 00:18:35,133 MONEY AND THEY ARE HELPING HIM 576 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,866 BY PUTTING MONEY INTO AN 577 00:18:33,766 --> 00:18:38,566 INVESTMENT AND THE REAL ESTATE 578 00:18:35,133 --> 00:18:41,633 DEAL IN FLORIDA WHERE HE BOUGHT 579 00:18:36,866 --> 00:18:44,900 A PROPERTY FOR $50 MILLION AND 580 00:18:38,566 --> 00:18:45,366 SOLD IT FOR $100 MILLION. 581 00:18:41,633 --> 00:18:46,833 MAKING A $50 MILLION PROFIT IS 582 00:18:44,900 --> 00:18:49,033 GOOD. 583 00:18:45,366 --> 00:18:51,166 >> YOU BELIEVE THIS IS MORE 584 00:18:46,833 --> 00:18:53,266 ABOUT MONEY-LAUNDERING AND ABOUT 585 00:18:49,033 --> 00:18:55,100 THE TURNING A BLIND EYE? 586 00:18:51,166 --> 00:18:56,600 >> THAT IS WHERE I WOULD -- 587 00:18:53,266 --> 00:18:57,766 I FOLLOWED POLITICS FOR A 588 00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:59,933 LONGTIME AND THE NAME OF THE 589 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:02,100 GAME IS FOLLOW THE MONEY. 590 00:18:57,766 --> 00:19:02,400 AND MONEY IS INFLUENCE. 591 00:18:59,933 --> 00:19:03,933 I'M SKEPTICAL OF THE OTHER 592 00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:06,866 STUFF. 593 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:09,433 I'VE GOT TO SEE IT PROVEN. 594 00:19:03,933 --> 00:19:11,400 BUT THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT 595 00:19:06,866 --> 00:19:12,666 THE INTIMACY AND THE CONTINUITY 596 00:19:09,433 --> 00:19:13,900 AND THE SPREAD OF THE CONTEXT WE 597 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,766 ARE GOING ON. 598 00:19:12,666 --> 00:19:16,800 >> ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN 599 00:19:13,900 --> 00:19:18,666 DOES THE UNITED STATES NEED TO 600 00:19:15,766 --> 00:19:20,466 FOSTER A BETTER RELATIONSHIP 601 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,766 WITH RUSSIA TO ACHIEVE ITS GOALS 602 00:19:18,666 --> 00:19:22,833 IN THE MIDDLE EAST, NAMELY 603 00:19:20,466 --> 00:19:24,866 DEFEATING ISIS? 604 00:19:21,766 --> 00:19:26,000 >> IT GOES BEYOND THE MIDDLE 605 00:19:22,833 --> 00:19:28,366 EAST IT GOES TO DEALING WITH 606 00:19:24,866 --> 00:19:29,766 NORTH KOREA AS WELL. 607 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:32,600 RUSSIA IS A PLAYER AND PUTIN IS 608 00:19:28,366 --> 00:19:32,933 SAYING TAKE ME SERIOUSLY. 609 00:19:29,766 --> 00:19:35,733 I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THEM 610 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,933 SERIOUS. 611 00:19:32,933 --> 00:19:38,866 IT IS NOT JUST TRUMP IT'S THE 612 00:19:35,733 --> 00:19:40,533 CONGRESS SHOULD RECOGNIZE THAT 613 00:19:36,933 --> 00:19:42,400 THE RUSSIANS ARE A MAJOR POWER 614 00:19:38,866 --> 00:19:43,633 IN THE PACIFIC, CERTAINLY IN 615 00:19:40,533 --> 00:19:43,933 EUROPE IN TERMS OF SUPPLYING 616 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,600 EUROPEAN OIL AND IN THE MIDDLE 617 00:19:43,633 --> 00:19:47,000 EAST. 618 00:19:43,933 --> 00:19:49,433 AND SO WE SHOULD LOOK FOR PLACES 619 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:52,000 WHERE WE CAN MAKE A DEAL. 620 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:53,200 THAT IS WHAT JOHN KERRY WAS 621 00:19:49,433 --> 00:19:56,233 TRYING TO DO AND PUTIN THOUGHT 622 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,466 SAW THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION 623 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:59,300 INCLUDING KERRY AS SOFTIES AND 624 00:19:56,233 --> 00:20:00,000 HE COULD PUSH THEM AROUND. 625 00:19:57,466 --> 00:20:01,800 IT IS NOT EASY TO DO WHAT WE ARE 626 00:19:59,300 --> 00:20:03,900 TALKING ABOUT. 627 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,400 BUT I THINK LOOKING FOR PLACES 628 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:07,633 WHERE WE CAN STRIKE AN AGREEMENT 629 00:20:03,900 --> 00:20:09,500 WITH THEM WHERE THEY CAN HELP US 630 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,500 AND WE CAN HELP THEM AND REDUCE 631 00:20:07,633 --> 00:20:14,500 THE TENSION AND THE FRICTIONS 632 00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:15,200 THAT WOULD BE SMART. 633 00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:18,533 >> WHAT DO YOU SEE ARE THE 634 00:20:14,500 --> 00:20:19,266 CONSEQUENCES OF THE PRESIDENT 635 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:20,433 NOT TAKING A TURF TONE TO 636 00:20:18,533 --> 00:20:22,400 RUSSIA? 637 00:20:19,266 --> 00:20:23,533 >> HE HAS NO CREDIBILITY ON 638 00:20:20,433 --> 00:20:24,733 CAPITOL HILL. 639 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,966 HE HAS LITTLE CREDIBILITY WITH 640 00:20:23,533 --> 00:20:27,766 THE PRESS. 641 00:20:24,733 --> 00:20:30,066 HE LOST SOMETHING IN HIS 642 00:20:25,966 --> 00:20:31,333 RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS OWN 643 00:20:27,766 --> 00:20:33,233 INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES FOR HIM TO 644 00:20:30,066 --> 00:20:35,566 SAY WHAT HE SAID AFTER TALKING 645 00:20:31,333 --> 00:20:36,633 TO PUTIN A SLAP IN THE FACE TO 646 00:20:33,233 --> 00:20:37,400 PEOPLE WHO ARE AS DEDICATED TO 647 00:20:35,566 --> 00:20:39,366 AMERICAN NATIONAL SECURITY AS 648 00:20:36,633 --> 00:20:41,700 THE MILITARY. 649 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:42,000 WHICH TRUMP LIKES TO PRAISE AND 650 00:20:39,366 --> 00:20:43,233 THE GENERALS WHOM HE HAS AROUND 651 00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:44,900 HIM. 652 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,833 IS A TERRIBLE MISTAKE. 653 00:20:43,233 --> 00:20:47,166 HE IS UNDERMINING HIS 654 00:20:44,900 --> 00:20:48,900 CONNECTIONS WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE 655 00:20:45,833 --> 00:20:51,466 IMPORTANT TO HIM. 656 00:20:47,166 --> 00:20:52,766 I DO NOT THINK THAT IS SMART 657 00:20:48,900 --> 00:20:53,700 FROM HIS OWN TANNED POINT. 658 00:20:51,466 --> 00:20:55,100 >> YOU WROTE THE BOOK THE 659 00:20:52,766 --> 00:20:55,366 RUSSIANS ABOUT YOUR TIME 660 00:20:53,700 --> 00:20:57,433 REPORTING THERE DURING THE COLD 661 00:20:55,100 --> 00:20:58,866 WAR. 662 00:20:55,366 --> 00:21:00,666 WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE THE 663 00:20:57,433 --> 00:21:01,666 RUSSIANS' VIEW OF THEIR OWN 664 00:20:58,866 --> 00:21:03,466 GOVERNMENT OF VLADIMIR PUTIN IS 665 00:21:00,666 --> 00:21:05,033 RIGHT NOW? 666 00:21:01,666 --> 00:21:07,133 >> WELL IT'S GOING TO SURPRISE 667 00:21:03,466 --> 00:21:08,666 PEOPLE BUT IT'S FAVORABLE AND 668 00:21:05,033 --> 00:21:10,466 ONE OF THE REASONS, THE WOUNDED 669 00:21:07,133 --> 00:21:12,766 PRIDE OF THE RUSSIANS. 670 00:21:08,666 --> 00:21:14,633 THE SENSE THE RUSSIANS HAVE BEEN 671 00:21:10,466 --> 00:21:17,566 KNOCKED OFF A PEDESTAL AND THEY 672 00:21:12,766 --> 00:21:19,266 ARE NOT SORT OF PEERS OF THE 673 00:21:14,633 --> 00:21:21,366 UNITED STATES ANYMORE. 674 00:21:17,566 --> 00:21:24,700 IN POWER TERMS. 675 00:21:19,266 --> 00:21:25,500 SO HE IS AGGRAVATING AND PLAYING 676 00:21:21,366 --> 00:21:27,533 ON THE NATIONALISM OF THE 677 00:21:24,700 --> 00:21:27,833 RUSSIANS. 678 00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:29,966 HE IS ACTING LIKE A RUSSIAN 679 00:21:27,533 --> 00:21:32,700 CZAR. 680 00:21:27,833 --> 00:21:34,400 THE WAY THE RUSSIANS OPERATED 681 00:21:29,966 --> 00:21:36,900 FOR CENTURIES NOT JUST UNDER THE 682 00:21:32,700 --> 00:21:38,866 COMMUNISTS, WAS TO CONTROL OR 683 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:39,166 DOMINATE ALL OF EASTERN EUROPE. 684 00:21:36,900 --> 00:21:41,766 BULGARIA, HUNGRY, POLAND AND SO 685 00:21:38,866 --> 00:21:43,633 FORTH. 686 00:21:39,166 --> 00:21:45,433 HE WANTS TO DO THAT AGAIN AND HE 687 00:21:41,766 --> 00:21:47,333 SEES US IN HIS BACKYARD AND HE 688 00:21:43,633 --> 00:21:47,666 IS ABLE TO TURN TO HIS PEOPLE 689 00:21:45,433 --> 00:21:49,600 AND SAY LOOK THEY ARE PUSHING ON 690 00:21:47,333 --> 00:21:51,166 US. 691 00:21:47,666 --> 00:21:52,233 THEY WANTED TO PUT A SYSTEM IN 692 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,966 EASTERN EUROPE AND THEN THE 693 00:21:51,166 --> 00:21:57,233 AMERICANS TOLD US THAT WAS 694 00:21:52,233 --> 00:22:01,500 AGAINST THE IRANIANS. 695 00:21:54,966 --> 00:22:03,566 SO I THINK HE IS VERY POPULAR IN 696 00:21:57,233 --> 00:22:05,833 THAT HE IS PLAYED TO THAT VERY 697 00:22:01,500 --> 00:22:07,566 STRONG RUSSIAN NATIONAL PRIDE. 698 00:22:03,566 --> 00:22:09,933 >> ARE THEY WILLING TO FORGIVE 699 00:22:05,833 --> 00:22:11,133 SOME OF HIS BEHAVIOR, THE 700 00:22:07,566 --> 00:22:13,533 JAILING OF DISSIDENTS, THE 701 00:22:09,933 --> 00:22:14,000 PURPORTED MURDERING? 702 00:22:11,133 --> 00:22:15,466 >> THERE ARE LOTS OF POLITICAL 703 00:22:13,533 --> 00:22:17,100 ASSASSINATIONS. 704 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,966 WHO ARE THE THEY? 705 00:22:15,466 --> 00:22:21,066 THE GREAT MASS OF RUSSIANS 706 00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:23,000 PROBABLY ARE DOING THIS. 707 00:22:18,966 --> 00:22:24,433 THERE'S 25% OF RUSSIANS MOST 708 00:22:21,066 --> 00:22:26,300 YOUNG AND MOST INTELLIGENT, 709 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:27,500 COLLEGE EDUCATED IN THE CITIES 710 00:22:24,433 --> 00:22:29,066 AND THEY ARE PREPARED TO 711 00:22:26,300 --> 00:22:30,933 DEMONSTRATE AND PREPARED TO GO 712 00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:32,133 IN THE STREETS. 713 00:22:29,066 --> 00:22:34,033 YOU HAVE ALEX HE WOULD LIKE TO 714 00:22:30,933 --> 00:22:35,600 RUN FOR PRESIDENT. 715 00:22:32,133 --> 00:22:37,600 THEY ARE GOING TO FORBID HIM TO 716 00:22:34,033 --> 00:22:39,566 DO THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE COOKED 717 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,933 UP CHARGES AGAINST HIM AND SAY 718 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,900 HE CANNOT RUN BECAUSE HE IS A 719 00:22:39,566 --> 00:22:44,133 CRIMINAL. 720 00:22:39,933 --> 00:22:45,133 WHICH IS BOGUS. 721 00:22:40,900 --> 00:22:46,233 BUT CERTAINLY, THERE IS A VERY 722 00:22:44,133 --> 00:22:47,933 IMPORTANT DISAFFECTED MINORITY 723 00:22:45,133 --> 00:22:50,000 BUT IT IS A MINORITY. 724 00:22:46,233 --> 00:22:52,466 AND IT'S NOT A MINORITY WHERE 725 00:22:47,933 --> 00:22:52,766 THE POWER TO CHALLENGE HIM OR 726 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,300 OVER THROW HIM OR UNDERMINE HIS 727 00:22:52,466 --> 00:22:56,900 POWER. 728 00:22:52,766 --> 00:22:59,000 >> WHAT DO YOU THINK THE RUSSIAN 729 00:22:54,300 --> 00:23:01,466 ROLE WAS OR HAS BEEN IN THE WAVE 730 00:22:56,900 --> 00:23:04,700 OF NATIONALISM THAT SORT OF 731 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:07,033 SWEPT THROUGHOUT EUROPE WITH 732 00:23:01,466 --> 00:23:08,366 ELECTIONS IN AUSTRIA AND HUNGARY 733 00:23:04,700 --> 00:23:09,966 AND BREXIT? 734 00:23:07,033 --> 00:23:11,700 >> WHAT'S HAPPENED IS HAVING 735 00:23:08,366 --> 00:23:13,600 BEEN BACKED INTO THE CORNER I 736 00:23:09,966 --> 00:23:15,100 CALL IT PUSHING THE RUSSIAN 737 00:23:11,700 --> 00:23:17,500 BAREBACK INTO THE CAVE, IN 738 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:20,500 MILITARY TERMS, IN TERMS OF 739 00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:24,300 WHERE NATO IS, WHAT HAPPENED IS 740 00:23:17,500 --> 00:23:26,133 THAT PUTIN AND THE KGB AND NOW 741 00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:27,900 THE SFB, HAVE DISCOVERED THAT 742 00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:28,300 THEY CAN PLAY ON THE WEAKNESSES 743 00:23:26,133 --> 00:23:30,166 OF OPEN SOCIETIES OF 744 00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:31,066 DEMOCRACIES. 745 00:23:28,300 --> 00:23:33,666 THEY CAN NOW START TO INTERVENE. 746 00:23:30,166 --> 00:23:37,033 THINK OF IT. 747 00:23:31,066 --> 00:23:39,866 THERE WERE 80,000 POSTS ON 748 00:23:33,666 --> 00:23:40,400 RUSSIAN INSPIRED Facebook 749 00:23:37,033 --> 00:23:44,000 SITES THAT REACHED 120 MILLION 750 00:23:39,866 --> 00:23:44,400 PEOPLE. 751 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:45,333 >> WITH THE POINT TO DIVIDE THE 752 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,200 ELECTORATE. 753 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:50,666 >> THEY WERE SAYING TO ONE SIDE 754 00:23:45,333 --> 00:23:51,100 THEY ARE ANTI-MUSLIM AND THE 755 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:53,533 OTHER SIDE PRO MUSLIM GO HOLD A 756 00:23:50,666 --> 00:23:56,100 DEMONSTRATION. 757 00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:57,100 AND THEY WERE TRYING TO PROMOTE 758 00:23:53,533 --> 00:23:59,733 VIOLENCE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE 759 00:23:56,100 --> 00:24:00,833 DIVISIONS IN OUR SOCIETY. 760 00:23:57,100 --> 00:24:02,833 IN FRANCE, GERMANY, IN SPAIN AND 761 00:23:59,733 --> 00:24:05,166 PARTS OF EUROPE. 762 00:24:00,833 --> 00:24:06,500 SO THE ANSWER IS THEY FOUND 763 00:24:02,833 --> 00:24:07,866 THROUGH THE CYBER WARFARE SYSTEM 764 00:24:05,166 --> 00:24:09,533 A NEW SET OF WEAPONS. 765 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:09,833 AND FOR US IT IS A CHALLENGE. 766 00:24:07,866 --> 00:24:11,500 WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH 767 00:24:09,533 --> 00:24:13,066 THAT. 768 00:24:09,833 --> 00:24:15,266 WE BELIEVE IN FREE EXPRESSION 769 00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:15,666 AND BELIEVE IN OPEN DEMOCRACY 770 00:24:13,066 --> 00:24:17,000 AND WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN 771 00:24:15,266 --> 00:24:19,800 CENSORSHIP. 772 00:24:15,666 --> 00:24:22,633 HE IS SHUTTING DOWN AT HOME. 773 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:24,100 HE IS CLOSING DOWN LOTS OF 774 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:27,066 INDEPENDENT JOURNALISTS THAT 775 00:24:22,633 --> 00:24:29,100 DEVELOPED. 776 00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:30,466 BUT IN OUR SOCIETY HE IS 777 00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:31,266 PRESSING US AT OUR WEAKEST POINT 778 00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:33,066 AND OUR STRENGTH OUR OPENNESS 779 00:24:30,466 --> 00:24:34,766 AND FREEDOM. 780 00:24:31,266 --> 00:24:36,000 AND WE HAVE NOT FIGURED OUT A 781 00:24:33,066 --> 00:24:37,933 WAY TO COPE WITH THAT. 782 00:24:34,766 --> 00:24:39,066 >> WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE 783 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,966 FUTURE OF THE UNITED STATES AND 784 00:24:37,933 --> 00:24:42,000 RUSSIA RELATIONS? 785 00:24:39,066 --> 00:24:45,033 OR THE WEST AND RUSSIA 786 00:24:40,966 --> 00:24:46,600 RELATIONS? 787 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:48,900 >> WELL, WHAT I WILL TELL THE 788 00:24:45,033 --> 00:24:51,700 AUDIENCE TOMORROW NIGHT AT 789 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:52,966 DOMINICAN UNIVERSITY, THE 790 00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:54,866 INITIATIVE OUT THERE A TERRIFIC 791 00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:55,200 THING EMPHASIZING IS THAT I 792 00:24:52,966 --> 00:24:56,966 THINK WE ARE IN FOR MORE OF THE 793 00:24:54,866 --> 00:24:58,700 SAME. 794 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:01,700 I DO NOT THINK WE'VE FIGURED OUT 795 00:24:56,966 --> 00:25:04,000 A WAY TO GET AROUND THIS. 796 00:24:58,700 --> 00:25:06,733 WE HAVE GOT A BUILT IN STRUCTURE 797 00:25:01,700 --> 00:25:10,466 OF FRICTION AND OPPOSITION. 798 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:11,766 AND WE'VE GOT AN OPPONENT WHO IS 799 00:25:06,733 --> 00:25:13,466 AGRIEVEED, WHO IS ANGRY, WHO IS 800 00:25:10,466 --> 00:25:15,033 VENGEFUL AND FOUND TECHNIQUES 801 00:25:11,766 --> 00:25:16,766 THAT ARE DRIVING US CRAZY AND 802 00:25:13,466 --> 00:25:19,300 PLAYING FROM WEAKNESS. 803 00:25:15,033 --> 00:25:20,800 HIS ECONOMY IS WEAK. 804 00:25:16,766 --> 00:25:22,700 HE IS ONLY SELLING OIL AND GAS 805 00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:23,266 FROM RUSSIA AND THE PRICE IS 806 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,466 DOWN WORLDWIDE SO HE IS NOT IN A 807 00:25:22,700 --> 00:25:25,833 STRONG POSITION. 808 00:25:23,266 --> 00:25:28,433 HE IS NOT MILITARYLY IN A STRONG 809 00:25:25,466 --> 00:25:30,800 POSITION. 810 00:25:25,833 --> 00:25:31,600 HE HAS BEEN BACKED OUT OF 811 00:25:28,433 --> 00:25:33,233 EASTERN EUROPE BUT FOUND A WAY 812 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:37,066 TO PENETRATE US. 813 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:39,200 AND I THINK PUTIN WILL BE A 814 00:25:33,233 --> 00:25:41,133 TOUGH GUY TO GET OFF THAT TRACK. 815 00:25:37,066 --> 00:25:42,133 >> CYBER WARFARE IS NOT 816 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,933 EXPENSIVE NOT LIKE BUYING 817 00:25:41,133 --> 00:25:44,266 MILITARY EQUIPMENT. 818 00:25:42,133 --> 00:25:45,300 HEDRICK SMITH THANK YOU FOR 819 00:25:42,933 --> 00:25:46,366 BEING HERE ON "CHICAGO TONIGHT." 820 00:25:44,266 --> 00:25:48,666 WE APPRECIATE IT. 821 00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:50,033 >> MY PLEASURE. 822 00:25:46,366 --> 00:25:57,066 >> IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR 823 00:25:48,666 --> 00:25:58,500 MORE HE HAD HEDRICK SMITH WILL 824 00:25:50,033 --> 00:25:59,733 BE AT DOUGH MINUTE CON -- 825 00:25:57,066 --> 00:26:02,566 DOMINICAN UNIVERSITY TO 826 00:25:58,500 --> 00:26:04,066 HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE 827 00:25:59,733 --> 00:26:05,000 ROLE OF FOREIGN CORRESPONDENTS. 828 00:26:02,566 --> 00:26:06,666 DETAILS ARE ON OUR WEBSITE. 829 00:26:04,066 --> 00:26:11,733 AND THERE'S MORE "CHICAGO 830 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:11,733 TONIGHT" AHEAD SO PLEASE STAY 831 00:26:06,666 --> 00:26:11,733 WITH US. 832 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:03,900 >> STILL TO COME ON "CHICAGO 833 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:04,733 TONIGHT" A PAINTER'S LOOK INSIDE 834 00:26:59,733 --> 00:27:05,966 THE WORLD OF ARTIST BILL WALKER. 835 00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:09,633 >>> ALEXANDER HAMILTON MAY BE A 836 00:27:04,733 --> 00:27:12,433 STAR ON STAGE BUT WHAT HAPPENED 837 00:27:05,966 --> 00:27:15,500 TO HIS MONUMENT IN LINCOLN PARK? 838 00:27:09,633 --> 00:27:17,566 >>> AND IT IS DINOSAUR TIME WALK 839 00:27:12,433 --> 00:27:19,233 ON THE WILD SIDE WITH THE GIANT 840 00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:21,566 T REX AT THE FIELD MUSEUM. 841 00:27:17,566 --> 00:27:23,266 >>> BUT TO MANY THE LEGACY OF 842 00:27:19,233 --> 00:27:25,633 MALCOM X IS A FIERY COUNTERPART 843 00:27:21,566 --> 00:27:27,566 TO MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. 844 00:27:23,266 --> 00:27:28,366 BUT TO ONE OF HIS DAUGHTERS THAT 845 00:27:25,633 --> 00:27:29,333 OVERLOOKS HIS COMPLEXITIES AND 846 00:27:27,566 --> 00:27:30,866 CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE FIGHT FOR 847 00:27:28,366 --> 00:27:32,866 HUMAN RIGHTS. 848 00:27:29,333 --> 00:27:34,500 JOINING US TO DISCUSS THE LEGACY 849 00:27:30,866 --> 00:27:37,766 OF HER FATHER, HER MOTHER BETTIE 850 00:27:32,866 --> 00:27:38,733 AND TALK ABOUT HER WORK, IS 851 00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:40,633 AUTHOR AND EDUCATOR, ILYASHA SHE 852 00:27:37,766 --> 00:27:44,766 IS IN -- 853 00:27:38,733 --> 00:27:46,200 ILYASAH SHABAZZ SHE IS IN 854 00:27:40,633 --> 00:27:48,300 CHICAGO FOR THE FINE ARTS SHOW. 855 00:27:44,766 --> 00:27:49,600 >> WELCOME TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT." 856 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,100 AS I WAS LEARNING ABOUT YOU, I 857 00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:53,933 LEARNED YOU HAVE NO MEMORY OF 858 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:56,433 YOUR FATHER. 859 00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:57,833 DO YOU REMEMBER ANYTHING? 860 00:27:53,933 --> 00:27:59,766 ANY SNIPPETS? 861 00:27:56,433 --> 00:28:01,766 YES. 862 00:27:57,833 --> 00:28:03,266 I REMEMBER THEY ARE FLICKERING 863 00:27:59,766 --> 00:28:04,000 IMAGES BECAUSE I WAS NOT QUITE 864 00:28:01,766 --> 00:28:08,233 THREE YEARS OLD WHEN HE WAS 865 00:28:03,266 --> 00:28:10,266 GUNNED DOWN. 866 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:11,533 I REMEMBER A SMILE BEAUTIFUL 867 00:28:08,233 --> 00:28:13,266 TEETH AND HIS VOICE AS HE WOULD 868 00:28:10,266 --> 00:28:14,766 CALL MY NAME. 869 00:28:11,533 --> 00:28:16,500 >> IN TERMS OF KNOWING MUCH 870 00:28:13,266 --> 00:28:16,833 ABOUT HIM WHEN YOU REALLY 871 00:28:14,766 --> 00:28:17,533 LEARNED ABOUT HIM WAS IN 872 00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:19,066 COLLEGE. 873 00:28:16,833 --> 00:28:20,200 HOW WAS THAT? 874 00:28:17,533 --> 00:28:23,366 DID YOUR MOM TALK TO YOU ABOUT 875 00:28:19,066 --> 00:28:24,200 YOUR DAD? 876 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:25,366 >> ACTUALLY I LEARNED ABOUT MY 877 00:28:23,366 --> 00:28:26,133 FATHER'S HUMANITY. 878 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,500 I LEARNED ABOUT THE THINGS THAT 879 00:28:25,366 --> 00:28:30,100 HE LIKED. 880 00:28:26,133 --> 00:28:32,533 THE THINGS THAT HE WOULD APPROVE 881 00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:34,533 OF IF WE DID SOMETHING GREAT IF 882 00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:36,200 WE DID A GREAT SCHOOL PROJECT OR 883 00:28:32,533 --> 00:28:37,100 SOMETHING GOOD AROUND THE HOUSE 884 00:28:34,533 --> 00:28:39,933 MY MOTHER WOULD SAY YOUR FATHER 885 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,700 WOULD LOVE THAT. 886 00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:43,566 IF WE DID SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT 887 00:28:39,933 --> 00:28:45,233 THAT GREAT SHE WOULD SAY YOUR 888 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:45,600 FATHER WOULD NOT LIKE THAT. 889 00:28:43,566 --> 00:28:48,866 SHE KEPT OUR FATHER IN THE 890 00:28:45,233 --> 00:28:49,933 HOUSEHOLD. 891 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:53,100 WE HAD HIS ITEMS HIS HAT AND HIS 892 00:28:48,866 --> 00:28:54,900 BOOKS HIS CLOTHES. 893 00:28:49,933 --> 00:28:56,333 THEY WERE IN THE HOUSE. 894 00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:57,866 >> BUT IT WASN'T UNTIL YOU WERE 895 00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:59,833 IN COLLEGE, I UNDERSTAND THAT 896 00:28:56,333 --> 00:29:01,700 YOU STARTED TO LEARN ABOUT HIM 897 00:28:57,866 --> 00:29:04,200 AS A PUBLIC PERSON AND THE 898 00:28:59,833 --> 00:29:06,500 IMPACT THAT HE HAD IN THE WORLD. 899 00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:09,133 >> WELL, YOU KNOW WHEN MY MOTHER 900 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:12,200 TAUGHT US ABOUT OUR FATHER IT 901 00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:14,500 WAS MORE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF 902 00:29:09,133 --> 00:29:15,933 HOW HE WAS A COMPASSIONATE MAN. 903 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:18,066 HE WAS A LOVING MAN. 904 00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:22,466 HE WAS HUMOROUS. 905 00:29:15,933 --> 00:29:25,866 WE DID NOT LEARN ABOUT RACISM 906 00:29:18,066 --> 00:29:26,200 AND JUSTICE AND ALL OF THE 907 00:29:22,466 --> 00:29:28,000 SOCIAL CLIMATE UNTIL I GOT TO 908 00:29:25,866 --> 00:29:31,466 COLLEGE. 909 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:31,866 >> AND HERE IS A PICTURE OF YOU. 910 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:33,166 IS THAT MOHAMMED ALI? 911 00:29:31,466 --> 00:29:34,400 >> YES. 912 00:29:31,866 --> 00:29:35,966 >> WHEN YOU WENT TO COLLEGE MY 913 00:29:33,166 --> 00:29:36,833 YOU HAD SOMETHING THAT THERE 914 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:40,100 WERE EXPECTATIONS OF YOU? 915 00:29:35,966 --> 00:29:41,866 >> THAT IS RIGHT. 916 00:29:36,833 --> 00:29:43,966 >> WHAT WERE THOSE EXPECTATIONS? 917 00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:46,300 >> GOODNESS. 918 00:29:41,866 --> 00:29:47,733 WHATEVER PEOPLE THOUGHT OF MY 919 00:29:43,966 --> 00:29:49,600 FATHER THEY PROJECTED ON TO ME. 920 00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:51,966 IF THEY THOUGHT MY FATHER COULD 921 00:29:47,733 --> 00:29:56,700 SAVE THEM FROM ANYTHING THEN 922 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:58,366 THEY EXPECTED ME, A 16-YEAR-OLD 923 00:29:51,966 --> 00:30:00,800 YOUNG GIRL WHO HAD GONE TO PREP 924 00:29:56,700 --> 00:30:02,833 SCHOOL HAS BEEN OVER PROTECTED 925 00:29:58,366 --> 00:30:03,100 BY MY MOTHER, TO BE ABLE TO DO 926 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,666 ALL THE THINGS THAT MY FATHER 927 00:30:02,833 --> 00:30:07,533 DID. 928 00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:08,900 AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAD THE 929 00:30:04,666 --> 00:30:10,533 WRONG IMPRESSION OF MY FIRE. 930 00:30:07,533 --> 00:30:15,200 >> A FIRE BRAIN. 931 00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:16,900 >> THEY WERE EXPECTING ME TO 932 00:30:10,533 --> 00:30:17,633 JUST JUMP ON THE STAGE AND BE 933 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:20,200 VERY VOCIFEROUS AND I WAS NOT 934 00:30:16,900 --> 00:30:21,766 THAT PERSON. 935 00:30:17,633 --> 00:30:24,600 AND THE THINGS SOMETIMES THAT 936 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:26,166 PEOPLE THOUGHT OF MY FATHER WAS 937 00:30:21,766 --> 00:30:28,666 NOT ACCURATE. 938 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:31,533 >> LEGALITY'S GET BACK -- 939 00:30:26,166 --> 00:30:33,533 LET'S GET BACK TO WHEN YOU FIRST 940 00:30:28,666 --> 00:30:36,833 STARTED LEARNING ABOUT YOUR DAD 941 00:30:31,533 --> 00:30:38,500 AS A PUBLIC PERSON. 942 00:30:33,533 --> 00:30:38,900 WHEN YOU READ THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY 943 00:30:36,833 --> 00:30:40,766 OF MALCOM X WHAT WAS THAT 944 00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:42,500 EXPERIENCE? 945 00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:43,766 >> A LOT OF PEOPLE UNTIL TODAY 946 00:30:40,766 --> 00:30:46,866 THEY SAY TO ME THAT THIS BOOK 947 00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:48,366 CHANGED THEIR LIVES. 948 00:30:43,766 --> 00:30:49,966 THEY HAD A NEW PERSPECTIVE WHO 949 00:30:46,866 --> 00:30:54,100 THEY WERE THEIR IDENTITY THEIR 950 00:30:48,366 --> 00:30:55,033 POSITION AND POWER IN THE WORLD. 951 00:30:49,966 --> 00:30:56,766 AND FOR ME, IT WAS MORE OF AN 952 00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:59,266 EMOTIONAL EXPERIENCE. 953 00:30:55,033 --> 00:31:03,333 MY MOTHER HAD ALREADY RAISED US 954 00:30:56,766 --> 00:31:05,366 PROUD OF WHO WE WERE AS WOMEN AS 955 00:30:59,266 --> 00:31:06,666 MUSLIMS AS PEOPLE OF AFRICAN 956 00:31:03,333 --> 00:31:08,466 ANCESTRY IT WAS MORE OF AN 957 00:31:05,366 --> 00:31:10,666 EMOTIONAL EXPERIENCE TO THINK MY 958 00:31:06,666 --> 00:31:11,733 FATHER WAS SUCH A YOUNG MAN WHEN 959 00:31:08,466 --> 00:31:14,766 THE WORLD LEARNED OF HIM HE WAS 960 00:31:10,666 --> 00:31:16,333 IN HIS 20s. 961 00:31:11,733 --> 00:31:17,800 HE WAS GUNNED DOWN AT 39 AND ALL 962 00:31:14,766 --> 00:31:18,566 HE ACCOMPLISHED IN THAT SHORT 963 00:31:16,333 --> 00:31:20,366 AMOUNT OF TIME DURING HIS LIFE 964 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,800 IS SIGNIFICANT. 965 00:31:18,566 --> 00:31:24,900 ALL AROUND THE WORLD PEOPLE 966 00:31:20,366 --> 00:31:26,333 UNDERSTAND AND EMBRACE MALCOLM. 967 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,300 >> YOUR MOTHER WAS AN ACTIVIST. 968 00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:28,733 HOW WAS SHE DIFFERENT THAN YOUR 969 00:31:26,333 --> 00:31:31,300 FATHER WAS? 970 00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:33,466 >> WELL, YOU KNOW I ALWAYS 971 00:31:28,733 --> 00:31:35,133 SAYING ABOUT AN ACTIVIST IS 972 00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:35,466 BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR LIFE. 973 00:31:33,466 --> 00:31:37,266 IT'S BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR 974 00:31:35,133 --> 00:31:38,400 OTHERS. 975 00:31:35,466 --> 00:31:40,400 WHEN YOU SEE INJUSTICE YOU WANT 976 00:31:37,266 --> 00:31:45,133 TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT TO 977 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:46,000 CHANGE IT. 978 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:46,833 SO MY MOTHER WAS A MUCH A 979 00:31:45,133 --> 00:31:50,800 COMPASSIONATE WOMAN JUST LIKE 980 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:52,733 HER HUSBAND. 981 00:31:46,833 --> 00:31:53,033 HER PARENTS TAUGHT HER TO BE 982 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,066 RESPONSIBLE NOT ONLY FOR HER 983 00:31:52,733 --> 00:31:58,400 LIFE. 984 00:31:53,033 --> 00:31:58,933 >> WHICH ONE IS YOU? 985 00:31:55,066 --> 00:32:00,433 >> I AM THE SHORTEST ONE 986 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,100 HOLDING -- 987 00:31:58,933 --> 00:32:01,866 >> ALL RIGHT. 988 00:32:00,433 --> 00:32:04,466 GO AHEAD. 989 00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:06,233 I'M SORRY. 990 00:32:01,866 --> 00:32:08,200 BACK TO WHAT YOUR MOM -- 991 00:32:04,466 --> 00:32:11,800 MOTHER'S ROLE AS AN ACTIVIST. 992 00:32:06,233 --> 00:32:12,133 >> I HAVE TO SAY I HAVE A BOOK 993 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:13,766 COMING OUT JANUARY SECOND ON 994 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,766 BETTIE. 995 00:32:12,133 --> 00:32:17,500 BEFORE X AND IT IS A MIDDLE 996 00:32:13,766 --> 00:32:19,733 SCHOOL BOOK AND SPEAKS TO THE 997 00:32:15,766 --> 00:32:22,566 ACTIVISM THAT WAS INSTILLED IN 998 00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:23,000 HER AS A CHILD TO BE RESPONSIBLE 999 00:32:19,733 --> 00:32:24,166 FOR ANYONE WHO WAS BEING TREATED 1000 00:32:22,566 --> 00:32:25,466 UNFAIRLY. 1001 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,166 >> MY UNDERSTANDING AS I READ 1002 00:32:24,166 --> 00:32:29,266 ABOUT THE BOOK THAT IS COMING 1003 00:32:25,466 --> 00:32:30,466 OUT IS ONE OF YOUR GOALS IS TO 1004 00:32:27,166 --> 00:32:32,500 QUOTE TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THE 1005 00:32:29,266 --> 00:32:33,733 RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN YOUR MOM 1006 00:32:30,466 --> 00:32:35,933 AND YOUR FATHER AS OPPOSED TO 1007 00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:37,433 HAVING SOMEBODY ELSE DO IT. 1008 00:32:33,733 --> 00:32:40,000 WHAT WAS THE TRUTH? 1009 00:32:35,933 --> 00:32:41,733 >> WELL, MY GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE 1010 00:32:37,433 --> 00:32:43,366 THAT THE READER CAN SEE 1011 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,300 THEMSELVES IN THE TEXT. 1012 00:32:41,733 --> 00:32:45,833 THAT THEY SEE THEMSELVES IN A 1013 00:32:43,366 --> 00:32:46,200 POSITIVE LIGHT. 1014 00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:49,233 THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THEIR 1015 00:32:45,833 --> 00:32:51,533 HUMANITY. 1016 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:54,466 THAT THEY CAN FIND THEIR VOICE 1017 00:32:49,233 --> 00:32:57,066 IN MALCOLM AND IN LITTLE 1018 00:32:51,533 --> 00:32:59,266 MALCOLM, MY FATHER AND YOUNG 1019 00:32:54,466 --> 00:33:01,433 BETTIE THAT YOUNG CHILDREN 1020 00:32:57,066 --> 00:33:03,266 WHETHER IT'S MY CHILDREN'S BOOK, 1021 00:32:59,266 --> 00:33:04,233 MY YOUNG ADULT BOOK THAT THEY 1022 00:33:01,433 --> 00:33:07,233 ARE ABLE TO FIND THEIR VOICE AND 1023 00:33:03,266 --> 00:33:09,033 POWER IN THAT. 1024 00:33:04,233 --> 00:33:10,800 >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU 1025 00:33:07,233 --> 00:33:12,366 RETRACED YOUR FATHER'S FOOTSTEPS 1026 00:33:09,033 --> 00:33:13,900 TO THE HOLY CITY OF MECCA. 1027 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:19,666 WHAT DID YOU LEARN? 1028 00:33:12,366 --> 00:33:20,066 >> OH, MY GOODNESS. 1029 00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:21,200 WELL, YOU KNOW, IT WAS AN 1030 00:33:19,666 --> 00:33:22,766 EXPERIENCE. 1031 00:33:20,066 --> 00:33:24,833 IT WAS AN EXPERIENCE. 1032 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,366 I'M GRATEFUL MY FATHER WAS ABLE 1033 00:33:22,766 --> 00:33:27,366 TO EXPERIENCE THAT HIMSELF. 1034 00:33:24,833 --> 00:33:28,833 >> DID IT GIVE YOU INSIGHTS INTO 1035 00:33:26,366 --> 00:33:33,366 YOUR FATHER? 1036 00:33:27,366 --> 00:33:33,900 HAVING GONE THROUGH IT? 1037 00:33:28,833 --> 00:33:35,900 HAVING MADE THAT HAJJ YOURSELF? 1038 00:33:33,366 --> 00:33:37,833 >> ANY INSIGHT? 1039 00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:39,900 I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT I 1040 00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:42,066 UNDERSTAND MY FATHER'S HUMANITY. 1041 00:33:37,833 --> 00:33:44,333 I WAS GRATEFUL THAT MY FATHER 1042 00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:46,300 WAS ABLE TO GO TO ANOTHER 1043 00:33:42,066 --> 00:33:48,866 COUNTRY IN THE 1960s, HERE HE 1044 00:33:44,333 --> 00:33:50,433 WAS IN THIS COUNTRY AND HE 1045 00:33:46,300 --> 00:33:53,233 WASN'T FULLY RESPECTED AS A MAN 1046 00:33:48,866 --> 00:33:55,366 AND THAT HE WOULD GO TO ANOTHER 1047 00:33:50,433 --> 00:33:56,733 COUNTRY AND NOT ONLY BE 1048 00:33:53,233 --> 00:33:59,533 RESPECTED BUT BE RECEIVED IN THE 1049 00:33:55,366 --> 00:34:02,766 WAY THAT HE WAS. 1050 00:33:56,733 --> 00:34:03,100 AND IT JUST EXPERIENCE YOU KNOW, 1051 00:33:59,533 --> 00:34:05,300 ALL OF WHAT HE DID WAS JUST YOU 1052 00:34:02,766 --> 00:34:08,066 KNOW -- 1053 00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:10,800 >> BECAUSE AFTER THAT, HE WENT 1054 00:34:05,300 --> 00:34:11,266 TO MECCA, HE IS VIEWED AS 1055 00:34:08,066 --> 00:34:12,733 SOMEONE WHO UNDERWENT A 1056 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,166 TRANSFORMATION. 1057 00:34:11,266 --> 00:34:15,800 DID YOU HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE, 1058 00:34:12,733 --> 00:34:17,300 TOO WHERE IT WAS TRANSFORMING 1059 00:34:14,166 --> 00:34:19,533 FOR YOU? 1060 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:22,766 >> I WOULD SAY, I THINK WE 1061 00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:25,500 CONTINUE TO EVOLVE IN OUR LIVES. 1062 00:34:19,533 --> 00:34:27,066 AND IT WAS DEFINITELY TIME THAT 1063 00:34:22,766 --> 00:34:28,400 I EVOLVED AND TRANSFORMED. 1064 00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:29,566 >> HOW WOULD YOUR FATHER HAVE 1065 00:34:27,066 --> 00:34:31,966 REACTED TO THE BLACK LIVES 1066 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:34,366 MATTER MOVEMENT? 1067 00:34:29,566 --> 00:34:35,866 >> I THINK HE WOULD BE PROUD OF 1068 00:34:31,966 --> 00:34:36,500 ANY YOUNG PERSON THAT IS TAKING 1069 00:34:34,366 --> 00:34:38,733 RESPONSIBILITY FOR INJUSTICE 1070 00:34:35,866 --> 00:34:39,800 AGAINST ANYONE. 1071 00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:42,333 SO I THINK HE WOULD BE PLEASED 1072 00:34:38,733 --> 00:34:44,200 WITH THAT ORGANIZATION. 1073 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:45,400 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT 1074 00:34:42,333 --> 00:34:47,433 ADULTS TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR 1075 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,833 WHEREVER OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE 1076 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:50,366 TODAY AND NOT JUST POINT 1077 00:34:47,433 --> 00:34:52,133 FINGERS. 1078 00:34:47,833 --> 00:34:54,700 I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT 1079 00:34:50,366 --> 00:34:56,600 IN ANYTHING WE DO WHETHER IT IS 1080 00:34:52,133 --> 00:34:58,266 A DEMONSTRATION, MARCH, THAT WE 1081 00:34:54,700 --> 00:35:03,766 HAVE GOAL, MEASURABLE GOALS AND 1082 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:06,366 WE MAKE SURE WHEN WE GO AND 1083 00:34:58,266 --> 00:35:07,566 MARCH AND GO AND DO THESE THINGS 1084 00:35:03,766 --> 00:35:09,766 THAT WE HAVE CHECK MARKS THAT WE 1085 00:35:06,366 --> 00:35:11,233 ACCOMPLISHED WHATEVER IT IS WHAT 1086 00:35:07,566 --> 00:35:11,700 WE SET OUT TO DO. 1087 00:35:09,766 --> 00:35:13,600 INSTEAD OF MARCHING JUST TO 1088 00:35:11,233 --> 00:35:15,600 MARCH. 1089 00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:17,800 >> TELL ME ABOUT YOUR OWN WORK 1090 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:20,266 BECAUSE IT SEEMS INFLUENCED BY 1091 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:21,200 THE KINDS OF VALUES INSTILLED TO 1092 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,700 YOU BY YOUR MOM AND YOUR FATHER? 1093 00:35:20,266 --> 00:35:25,366 >> THAT IS RIGHT. 1094 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:27,533 I WRITE MY BOOKS. 1095 00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:28,466 AND AS I SAID I HAVE FOUR BOOKS, 1096 00:35:25,366 --> 00:35:31,566 GROWING UP EXPECT, AND BETTIE 1097 00:35:27,533 --> 00:35:35,966 BEFORE X. 1098 00:35:28,466 --> 00:35:37,566 I AM A PROFESSOR AT HOME AT JOHN 1099 00:35:31,566 --> 00:35:39,133 JAY COLLEGE OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE 1100 00:35:35,966 --> 00:35:40,600 AND IT'S ALL ABOUT MAKING SURE 1101 00:35:37,566 --> 00:35:45,266 THAT MY STUDENTS UNDERSTAND WHO 1102 00:35:39,133 --> 00:35:46,833 THEY ARE, THEIR IDENTITY AND 1103 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:48,666 THEIR PURPOSE IN LIFE. 1104 00:35:45,266 --> 00:35:49,900 >> IS THERE -- 1105 00:35:46,833 --> 00:35:52,000 DO YOU FEEL A PARTICULAR 1106 00:35:48,666 --> 00:35:53,366 RESPONSIBILITY BEING THE 1107 00:35:49,900 --> 00:35:55,500 DAUGHTER OF AN ICONIC FIGURE IN 1108 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:58,133 THIS COUNTRY'S HISTORY? 1109 00:35:53,366 --> 00:35:59,933 >> I MEAN I DO FEEL A 1110 00:35:55,500 --> 00:36:03,466 RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE ANYTHING 1111 00:35:58,133 --> 00:36:05,766 BETTER THAN I FOUND IT. 1112 00:35:59,933 --> 00:36:06,900 MY MOTHER OFTEN SAID ONE MUST 1113 00:36:03,466 --> 00:36:09,166 GIVE BACK BUT I THINK IT'S MY 1114 00:36:05,766 --> 00:36:09,533 RESPONSIBILITY AS MUCH IT IS 1115 00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:11,566 YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AND THE NEXT 1116 00:36:09,166 --> 00:36:14,733 PERSON'S. 1117 00:36:09,533 --> 00:36:15,766 SO I DO NOT FEEL OVERWHELMED 1118 00:36:11,566 --> 00:36:16,533 WITH EXPECTATION. 1119 00:36:14,733 --> 00:36:18,366 >> ILYASAH SHABAZZ THANK YOU FOR 1120 00:36:15,766 --> 00:36:19,800 COMING ON THE PROGRAM. 1121 00:36:16,533 --> 00:36:21,866 IT WAS A PLEASURE. 1122 00:36:18,366 --> 00:36:23,600 ILYASAH SHABAZZ IS IN TOWN FOR 1123 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:26,600 THE HARLEM FINE ARTS SHOW AT 1124 00:36:21,866 --> 00:36:28,700 MALCOM X COLLEGE THERE ARE 1125 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:30,533 DETAILS ON OUR WEBSITE. 1126 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:32,466 >>> A NEW EXHIBITION LOOKS AT 1127 00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:34,500 RARE WORKS OF ART THAT ARE 1128 00:36:30,533 --> 00:36:36,866 POWERFUL AND A BIT GRAPHIC. 1129 00:36:32,466 --> 00:36:37,733 THIS WORK WAS MADE BY AN ARTIST 1130 00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:39,733 WITH A STRONG CONNECTION TO 1131 00:36:36,866 --> 00:36:41,800 CHICAGO PUBLIC ART. 1132 00:36:37,733 --> 00:36:43,433 BILL WALKER WAS A MEASURALLIST 1133 00:36:39,733 --> 00:36:44,766 ON A -- 1134 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:48,400 MURALIST AND REFLECTED ON THE 1135 00:36:43,433 --> 00:36:48,400 REALITIES OF LIFE ON THE 1136 00:36:44,766 --> 00:36:48,400 STREETS. 1137 00:36:49,866 --> 00:36:54,500 >> THERE ARE POSITIVE PORTRAITS 1138 00:36:51,533 --> 00:36:57,500 OF HAPPY FAMILIES. 1139 00:36:52,766 --> 00:37:02,233 AND THREATENING IMAGES OF STREET 1140 00:36:54,500 --> 00:37:04,300 LIFE AND DESPAIR. 1141 00:36:57,500 --> 00:37:06,866 AT THE HYDE PARK ART CENTER THE 1142 00:37:02,233 --> 00:37:09,300 WORKS ARE ON DISPLAY CREATED BY 1143 00:37:04,300 --> 00:37:11,266 BILL WALKER WHO ONCE STATED THE 1144 00:37:06,866 --> 00:37:13,333 ARTIST AND HIS ART ARE WARNING 1145 00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:15,266 MAN OF THE DANGERS AHEAD. 1146 00:37:11,266 --> 00:37:16,866 >> YOU WILL SEE PICTURES OF 1147 00:37:13,333 --> 00:37:18,633 CHILDREN AND THEY ARE BEARING 1148 00:37:15,266 --> 00:37:20,366 WITNESS TO THE VIOLENCE THAT IS 1149 00:37:16,866 --> 00:37:21,266 GOING ON HE IS SAYING I WILL 1150 00:37:18,633 --> 00:37:22,766 KEEP THIS REAL BECAUSE THIS IS 1151 00:37:20,366 --> 00:37:24,833 WHERE I LIVE. 1152 00:37:21,266 --> 00:37:26,666 HE LIVED IN THESE AREAS. 1153 00:37:22,766 --> 00:37:28,966 SO I LIVE HERE AND THIS IS MY 1154 00:37:24,833 --> 00:37:31,033 LIVED EXPERIENCE AND I SEE THESE 1155 00:37:26,666 --> 00:37:33,000 CHILDREN ALL AROUND ME AND IT'S 1156 00:37:28,966 --> 00:37:34,766 THEIR LIVED EXPERIENCE AS WELL. 1157 00:37:31,033 --> 00:37:37,133 >> THIS EXHIBITION OF WALKER'S 1158 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:41,300 ART FROM THE 1970s AND 80s 1159 00:37:34,766 --> 00:37:42,833 IS CALLED URBAN GRIOT. 1160 00:37:37,133 --> 00:37:44,866 >> IN WEST AFRICAN CULTURE, THE 1161 00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:46,900 GRIOT PASSES ON THE CULTURE. 1162 00:37:42,833 --> 00:37:48,600 IF YOU ARE DEALING WITH CULTURES 1163 00:37:44,866 --> 00:37:50,666 THAT DO NOT HAVE A WRITTEN 1164 00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:52,100 LANGUAGE THE WAY YOU PASS ON THE 1165 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:55,566 HISTORY OF A GIVEN TRIBE OR 1166 00:37:50,666 --> 00:37:57,133 CULTURE IS THROUGH THE 1167 00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:58,400 STORYTELLER OR THE GRIOT. 1168 00:37:55,566 --> 00:38:01,666 AND HE OR SHE WOULD BE THE 1169 00:37:57,133 --> 00:38:02,066 KEEPER OF THE STORIES TO 1170 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,766 CONTINUE TO PASS ON THROUGH THE 1171 00:38:01,666 --> 00:38:04,700 GENERATIONS. 1172 00:38:02,066 --> 00:38:06,200 >> THE PICTURES ARE CREATED BY 1173 00:38:03,766 --> 00:38:08,233 AN ARTIST CONCERNED ABOUT THE 1174 00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:10,800 PLIGHT OF HIS NEIGHBORS. 1175 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:12,233 >> THE WORK IS DIVIDED INTO 1176 00:38:08,233 --> 00:38:14,100 THREE MAIN SERIES: THE FIRST IS 1177 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,733 CALLED FOR BLACKS ONLY. 1178 00:38:12,233 --> 00:38:16,400 AND A LOT WAS DIRECTED AT THE 1179 00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:18,833 BLACK COMMUNITY. 1180 00:38:14,733 --> 00:38:20,100 IT WAS A WAY OF SAYING HEY LOOK 1181 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,633 AT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR 1182 00:38:18,833 --> 00:38:23,500 COMMUNITIES THE VIOLENCE AND THE 1183 00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:26,300 GANGS AND THE DRUGS. 1184 00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:28,366 MAYBE WE AS A COMMUNITY SHOULD 1185 00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:31,800 HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TOO. 1186 00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:34,733 SO AT LEAST BE AWARE OF WHAT IS 1187 00:38:28,366 --> 00:38:36,300 GOING ON AND NOT BE BLIND TO IT. 1188 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:38,800 THE SECOND SERIES IS CALLED 1189 00:38:34,733 --> 00:38:40,966 REAGANOMICS, DEALING WITH THE 1190 00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:42,700 IMPACT OF THE POLICIES ON THE 1191 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:44,200 POOR AND WE HEAR ABOUT THE TAX 1192 00:38:40,966 --> 00:38:46,000 BREAKS BUT AT THE FLIP END 1193 00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:47,500 SOCIAL SERVICES WERE CUT AND IT 1194 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:49,366 HAD A DEVASTATING IMPACT ON 1195 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,933 COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. 1196 00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:53,133 THE THIRD ONE IS CALLED RED, 1197 00:38:49,366 --> 00:38:54,566 WHITE AND BLUE, I LOVE YOU. 1198 00:38:50,933 --> 00:38:56,166 SO YOU SEE SOME OF THE SAME 1199 00:38:53,133 --> 00:38:58,100 ISSUES OF DRUG ADDICTION AND 1200 00:38:54,566 --> 00:39:00,966 VIOLENCE AND SO ON THAT WE SEE 1201 00:38:56,166 --> 00:39:02,866 IN THE OTHER SERIES BUT THEY ARE 1202 00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:04,266 RENDERED IN RED, WHITE AND BLUE. 1203 00:39:00,966 --> 00:39:06,366 GIVING A NOD TO SAY, HEY THIS 1204 00:39:02,866 --> 00:39:06,700 COUNTRY IS HAVING A LOT OF 1205 00:39:04,266 --> 00:39:07,966 PROBLEMS BUT I'M STILL A 1206 00:39:06,366 --> 00:39:10,333 PATRIOT. 1207 00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:11,833 BUT AGAIN CONTINUING TO SHOW THE 1208 00:39:07,966 --> 00:39:13,866 WORLD AND SHOWING PEOPLE HEY, 1209 00:39:10,333 --> 00:39:19,066 THIS IS NOT RIGHT. 1210 00:39:11,833 --> 00:39:20,733 WE NEED TO TAKE STEPS TO 1211 00:39:13,866 --> 00:39:22,000 CHANGING IT. 1212 00:39:19,066 --> 00:39:24,733 >> BILL WALKER MADE A NAME FOR 1213 00:39:20,733 --> 00:39:27,533 HIMSELF IN PUBLIC ART. 1214 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:30,666 HE WAS THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND 1215 00:39:24,733 --> 00:39:32,666 THE HISTORIC MURAL WALL OF 1216 00:39:27,533 --> 00:39:33,033 RESPECT WHICH DEBUTED IN 1967 AT 1217 00:39:30,666 --> 00:39:35,133 43rd STREET AND LANGLEY 1218 00:39:32,666 --> 00:39:37,866 AVENUE. 1219 00:39:33,033 --> 00:39:38,333 >> THE IDEA WAS ONE TO BRING 1220 00:39:35,133 --> 00:39:39,066 BEAUTY INTO A REALLY ROUGH 1221 00:39:37,866 --> 00:39:41,266 NEIGHBORHOOD. 1222 00:39:38,333 --> 00:39:43,233 SOME PEOPLE CALLED THAT 1223 00:39:39,066 --> 00:39:43,566 NEIGHBORHOOD THE BUCKET OF BLOOD 1224 00:39:41,266 --> 00:39:45,600 BECAUSE OF THE GANG VIOLENCE AND 1225 00:39:43,233 --> 00:39:47,533 POVERTY. 1226 00:39:43,566 --> 00:39:49,500 IT WAS ABOUT BRINGING BEAUTY AND 1227 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:51,100 A SENSE OF HISTORY. 1228 00:39:47,533 --> 00:39:52,733 PART OF THE IMPETUS WAS TO SHOW 1229 00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:55,200 THE COMMUNITY AND SHOW ITS 1230 00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:56,400 CHILDREN ALL OF THE WONDERFUL 1231 00:39:52,733 --> 00:39:57,633 BLACK ENERGY AND BLACK PRIDE. 1232 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,466 >> THE CURATOR OF THIS 1233 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:01,233 EXHIBITION HAD A PERSONAL 1234 00:39:57,633 --> 00:40:02,700 CONNECTION TO THE WALL. 1235 00:39:59,466 --> 00:40:04,166 >> MY MOTHER FLORENCE HAWKINS 1236 00:40:01,233 --> 00:40:05,933 WAS ONE OF THE PAINTERS OF THE 1237 00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:06,933 WALL OF RESPECT AND A MEMBER OF 1238 00:40:04,166 --> 00:40:08,533 THE COMMUNITY WE LIVED AROUND 1239 00:40:05,933 --> 00:40:09,300 THE CORNER. 1240 00:40:06,933 --> 00:40:10,966 SO OFTENTIMES HE WELCOMED PEOPLE 1241 00:40:08,533 --> 00:40:12,100 FROM THE COMMUNITY. 1242 00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:13,233 HE IS KNOWN FOR INTERACTING WITH 1243 00:40:10,966 --> 00:40:15,400 PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT 1244 00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:17,133 HE WORKED IN. 1245 00:40:13,233 --> 00:40:19,566 AND MY MOTHER JUST SAYING YOU 1246 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:21,833 ARE PAINTING SOMETHING THIS IS 1247 00:40:17,133 --> 00:40:23,566 COOL I AM AN ARTIST CAN I PLAY? 1248 00:40:19,566 --> 00:40:25,866 AND THEY GAVE HER A BRUSH. 1249 00:40:21,833 --> 00:40:28,233 >> MUCH OF THE WORK COMES FROM 1250 00:40:23,566 --> 00:40:31,066 CHICAGO STATE UNIVERSITY. 1251 00:40:25,866 --> 00:40:32,433 UNLIKE HIS CANVAS OF BRICK AND 1252 00:40:28,233 --> 00:40:33,300 CONCRETE WALKER CREATED THESE ON 1253 00:40:31,066 --> 00:40:34,700 PAPER. 1254 00:40:32,433 --> 00:40:36,966 NEWSPAPER. 1255 00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:38,266 AND PLEXIGLASS. 1256 00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:41,400 >> HE THOUGHT THAT THAT TRUTH AS 1257 00:40:36,966 --> 00:40:43,466 AN ARTIST SPEAKING THE TRUTH 1258 00:40:38,266 --> 00:40:43,900 THAT IS ONE WAY OF HELPING 1259 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,166 MANKIND STAVE OFF HIS OWN 1260 00:40:43,466 --> 00:40:46,500 DESTRUCTION. 1261 00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:47,800 IN TERMS OF SAYING HEY WE ARE 1262 00:40:45,166 --> 00:40:48,566 NOT GOING TO PULLBACK. 1263 00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:51,766 THIS IS THE REALITY MANY OF US 1264 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:53,066 ARE DEALING WITH. 1265 00:40:48,566 --> 00:40:54,000 WE CANNOT AFFORD TO BE IMMUNE TO 1266 00:40:51,766 --> 00:40:56,200 WHAT IS AROUND US BECAUSE IT IS 1267 00:40:53,066 --> 00:40:57,466 A WAY OF LIFE. 1268 00:40:54,000 --> 00:41:04,500 WE HAVE TO RISE UP AND HAVE TO 1269 00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:06,233 COLLABORATE AND COOPERATE. 1270 00:40:57,466 --> 00:41:07,600 AND MAKE POSITIVE CHANGE. 1271 00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:09,233 >> BILL WALKER DIED IN 2011 AT 1272 00:41:06,233 --> 00:41:12,300 THE AGE OF 84. 1273 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:14,100 THE EXHIBITION OF HIS WORK 1274 00:41:09,233 --> 00:41:15,533 OPENED AT THE HYDE PARK ART 1275 00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:18,166 CENTER UNTIL APRIL 8. 1276 00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:22,266 MORE INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE. 1277 00:41:15,533 --> 00:41:22,266 UP NEXT AN ENCORE EDITION OF 1278 00:41:18,166 --> 00:41:22,266 "ASK GEOFFREY" SO STAY WITH US. 1279 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,500 >> ALEXANDER HAMILTON IS NOT THE 1280 00:41:43,466 --> 00:41:48,366 ONLY STAR OF THE HOTTEST SHOW IN 1281 00:41:45,166 --> 00:41:50,066 AMERICA. 1282 00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:52,233 HE WAS THE SUBJECT OF TWO 1283 00:41:48,366 --> 00:41:54,666 MISSING MONUMENTS IN CHICAGO. 1284 00:41:50,066 --> 00:41:56,800 SO WHERE DID THEY GO? 1285 00:41:52,233 --> 00:41:57,166 GEOFFREY BAER GETS THE JOB DONE 1286 00:41:54,666 --> 00:41:58,500 ON TONIGHT'S EDITION OF "ASK 1287 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,166 GEOFFREY". 1288 00:41:57,166 --> 00:42:01,466 GEOFFREY GOOD TO SEE YOU. 1289 00:41:58,500 --> 00:42:04,900 >> YOU'LL NOT THROWING AWAY MY 1290 00:42:01,166 --> 00:42:04,900 SHOT. 1291 00:42:01,466 --> 00:42:04,900 I LOVE MYSTERIES. 1292 00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:16,666 >> WELL, SO FIRST OF ALL, YES, 1293 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:18,200 HAMILTON IS THE HOTTEST SHOW ON 1294 00:42:14,366 --> 00:42:18,466 BROADWAY AND RUNNING IN CHICAGO 1295 00:42:16,666 --> 00:42:19,266 SINCE LAST FALL STILL SELLING 1296 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,433 OUT. 1297 00:42:18,466 --> 00:42:23,066 BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? 1298 00:42:19,266 --> 00:42:23,766 YOU CAN SEE ALEXANDER HAMILTON 1299 00:42:21,433 --> 00:42:27,333 ANYTIME YOU WANT FOR FREE IN 1300 00:42:23,066 --> 00:42:27,700 LINCOLN PARK. 1301 00:42:23,766 --> 00:42:29,933 HE DOES NOT RAP OR SING OR 1302 00:42:27,333 --> 00:42:32,366 DANCE. 1303 00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:33,666 THE HAMILTON STATUE IN LINCOLN 1304 00:42:29,933 --> 00:42:35,100 PARK WAS TAKING A BREAK OFF 1305 00:42:32,366 --> 00:42:37,600 STAGE WHEN THIS QUESTION WAS 1306 00:42:33,666 --> 00:42:40,633 SENT TO US. 1307 00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:43,133 BUT HE JUST RETURNED FOR AN 1308 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:46,700 ENCORE PERFORMANCE AT THE CORNER 1309 00:42:40,633 --> 00:42:51,066 OF CANNON DRIVE. 1310 00:42:43,133 --> 00:42:54,033 THE STATUE WAS PROPOSED IN THE 1311 00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:54,400 20s BY WEALTHY PHILANTHROPIST 1312 00:42:51,066 --> 00:42:56,233 WHO COMMISSIONED CHICAGO'S 1313 00:42:54,033 --> 00:42:56,700 FOUNTAIN. 1314 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,100 >> WHY SHE WANTED A STATUE OF 1315 00:42:56,233 --> 00:42:58,100 HAMILTON? 1316 00:42:56,700 --> 00:43:01,366 >> YES. 1317 00:42:57,100 --> 00:43:02,733 SHE BELIEVED THAT HAMILTON'S 1318 00:42:58,100 --> 00:43:04,033 WORK IS THE FIRST SECRETARY OF 1319 00:43:01,366 --> 00:43:06,033 TREASURY SECURED THE COUNTRY'S 1320 00:43:02,733 --> 00:43:08,400 FINANCIAL FUTURE AND ALLOWED HER 1321 00:43:04,033 --> 00:43:10,833 FAMILY TO MAKE A FORTUNE IN 1322 00:43:06,033 --> 00:43:12,566 GRAIN ELEVATORS AND BANKING. 1323 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:14,400 ARTIST JOHN ANGEL DESIGNED THE 1324 00:43:10,833 --> 00:43:18,866 STATUE BUT BUCKINGHAM DIED 1325 00:43:12,566 --> 00:43:20,166 BEFORE THE VERGE WAS COMPLETED 1326 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:21,033 AND A SITE WAS FOUND FOR IT. 1327 00:43:18,866 --> 00:43:23,166 THE GREAT ARCHITECT WAS 1328 00:43:20,166 --> 00:43:25,066 COMMISSIONED AND SHE 1329 00:43:21,033 --> 00:43:26,933 COMMISSIONED HIM TO DO A BIG 1330 00:43:23,166 --> 00:43:27,633 SURROUND FOR THE SCULPTURE AND 1331 00:43:25,066 --> 00:43:32,133 WHEN SHE SAW THE PLANS SHE HATE 1332 00:43:26,933 --> 00:43:34,400 TO DO. 1333 00:43:27,633 --> 00:43:36,066 IT WOULD MAKE THE SCULPTURE LOOK 1334 00:43:32,133 --> 00:43:37,700 TOO SMALL AND SHE DIED AND SAID 1335 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:39,433 THE STATUE HAD TO BE COMPLETED 1336 00:43:36,066 --> 00:43:40,400 AND INSTALLED WITHIN 10 YEARS OR 1337 00:43:37,700 --> 00:43:42,500 THE MONEY WOULD REVERT TO THE 1338 00:43:39,433 --> 00:43:44,466 ART INSTITUTE. 1339 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:46,666 THE ART INSTITUTE WAS 1340 00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:48,633 RESPONSIBLE FOR INSTALLING THE 1341 00:43:44,466 --> 00:43:50,933 STATUE SO THEY HAD A 1342 00:43:46,666 --> 00:43:52,700 DISINCENTIVE TO DO IT. 1343 00:43:48,633 --> 00:43:54,366 SO THAT ENDED UP IN COURT. 1344 00:43:50,933 --> 00:43:58,366 AND THERE WERE LAWSUITS AND 1345 00:43:52,700 --> 00:44:01,266 WORLD WAR II HAPPENED AND IT DID 1346 00:43:54,366 --> 00:44:01,566 NOT GET INSTALLED UNTIL 1952, 14 1347 00:43:58,366 --> 00:44:04,700 YEARS AFTER KATE BUCKINGHAM'S 1348 00:44:01,266 --> 00:44:08,333 DEATH. 1349 00:44:01,566 --> 00:44:12,166 IT WAS SET ON A 78-FOOT TALL 1350 00:44:04,700 --> 00:44:13,166 BLACK GRANITE BASE. 1351 00:44:08,333 --> 00:44:15,966 AND BY 1993, THE PARK DISTRICT 1352 00:44:12,166 --> 00:44:20,100 DETERMINED THAT PEOPLE DID NOT 1353 00:44:13,166 --> 00:44:22,400 LIKE IT, SO IT WAS DEMOLISHED. 1354 00:44:15,966 --> 00:44:24,466 THE 13TH FOOT TALL STATUE WAS 1355 00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:26,066 REINSTALLEDDED ON A RED GRANITE 1356 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,733 BASE AND IT WAS TURNED TO FACE 1357 00:44:24,466 --> 00:44:30,533 SOUTH TO GET BETTER LIGHT AND 1358 00:44:26,066 --> 00:44:30,866 WHEN HE WAS FIRST INSTALLED ON 1359 00:44:27,733 --> 00:44:33,266 THE MODERNIST BASE HE HAD BEEN 1360 00:44:30,533 --> 00:44:34,933 GILDED. 1361 00:44:30,866 --> 00:44:35,933 IT WAS BRONZE BUT GILDED. 1362 00:44:33,266 --> 00:44:38,600 HE WAS INSTALLED ON THE BASE 1363 00:44:34,933 --> 00:44:39,666 FACING SOUTH. 1364 00:44:35,933 --> 00:44:42,033 >> ISN'T THAT MAKE HIM SQUINT? 1365 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:45,500 >> EXACTLY AND ALSO WHAT IT 1366 00:44:39,666 --> 00:44:45,800 MEANT IS THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD 1367 00:44:42,033 --> 00:44:47,400 SEE HIS REAR INSTEAD OF HIS 1368 00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:49,133 FRONT. 1369 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:50,866 SO ANYWAY HE WAS REMOVED FROM 1370 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:53,066 THE POST IN SEPTEMBER 2015 1371 00:44:49,133 --> 00:44:55,666 BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO REGUILD 1372 00:44:50,866 --> 00:44:58,166 HIM ANYWAY. 1373 00:44:53,066 --> 00:45:00,166 AND THAT WAS A MONTH AFTER THE 1374 00:44:55,666 --> 00:45:02,600 MUSICAL DEBUTED ON BROADWAY. 1375 00:44:58,166 --> 00:45:05,300 HE DID NOT REALIZE WHAT THEY BIG 1376 00:45:00,166 --> 00:45:07,833 HIT HE WAS GOING TO BE. 1377 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:09,200 AFTER REGUILDING BY CONSERVATION 1378 00:45:05,300 --> 00:45:11,000 OF SCULPTURE AND OBJECTS A NEW 1379 00:45:07,833 --> 00:45:13,800 GLEAMING Mr. HUMIDITY IS 1380 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:17,566 REINSTALLED AND HE FACES NORTH. 1381 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:18,300 >> I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS ONE 1382 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:19,733 OF TWO HAMILTON STATUES IN 1383 00:45:17,566 --> 00:45:21,166 CHICAGO? 1384 00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:23,266 >> WE HAD ANOTHER VIEWER WHO 1385 00:45:19,733 --> 00:45:27,200 ASKED ABOUT A MISSING HAMILTON. 1386 00:45:21,166 --> 00:45:28,966 THE SECOND ONE IS IN STORAGE 1387 00:45:23,266 --> 00:45:32,066 THAT WAS DEDICATED BY 1388 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:36,633 DESCENDANTS OF HAMILTON IN 1918 1389 00:45:28,966 --> 00:45:40,500 AT THE NORTH END OF GRANT PARK. 1390 00:45:32,066 --> 00:45:43,100 THE STATUE BY BALY PRATT WAS SET 1391 00:45:36,633 --> 00:45:45,533 ON A SURROUND IN A NICHE AND 1392 00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:46,966 FLANKED BY MASONRY WALLS 1393 00:45:43,100 --> 00:45:49,466 INSCRIBED WITH HAMILTON'S 1394 00:45:45,533 --> 00:45:51,266 WRITINGS ON JUSTICE. 1395 00:45:46,966 --> 00:45:54,566 SO THE PARK DISTRICT SAYS THE 1396 00:45:49,466 --> 00:45:56,133 STATUE WITH THE BASE WERE MOVED 1397 00:45:51,266 --> 00:45:58,200 INTO STORAGE WHEN MILLENIUM PARK 1398 00:45:54,566 --> 00:45:59,566 WAS BUILT IN THE 1990s. 1399 00:45:56,133 --> 00:46:01,333 AND THE LONG-TERM PLAN IS TO 1400 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,633 REINSTALL THAT IN GRANT PARK BUT 1401 00:45:59,566 --> 00:46:03,966 THERE IS NO TIME LINE FOR THAT 1402 00:46:01,333 --> 00:46:05,300 RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE IS NO 1403 00:46:02,633 --> 00:46:06,233 FUNDING FOR IT. 1404 00:46:03,966 --> 00:46:07,233 >> NOT ENOUGH HAMILTONS. 1405 00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:08,733 >> NOT ENOUGH HAMILTONS. 1406 00:46:06,233 --> 00:46:10,400 >> WE NEED ANOTHER ONE. 1407 00:46:07,233 --> 00:46:13,166 BUT WHAT IS INTERESTING THAT 1408 00:46:08,733 --> 00:46:15,900 HAMILTON STATUE WAS PAID FOR BY 1409 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:17,766 THE BF FERGUSON FUND A BIG DEAL. 1410 00:46:13,166 --> 00:46:20,900 IT WAS A CHARITABLE FUND LEFT TO 1411 00:46:15,900 --> 00:46:23,000 CHICAGO BY BENG MING FRANKLIN 1412 00:46:17,766 --> 00:46:24,800 FERGUSON IN 1905 TO MAINTAIN 1413 00:46:20,900 --> 00:46:26,366 PUBLIC MONUMENTS COMMEMORATING 1414 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:28,133 IMPORTANT PEOPLE AND EVENTS IN 1415 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:31,366 AMERICAN HISTORY AND THE 1416 00:46:26,366 --> 00:46:33,033 FERGUSON FUND WAS RESPONSIBLE 1417 00:46:28,133 --> 00:46:35,033 FOR SOME OF CHICAGO'S MOST 1418 00:46:31,366 --> 00:46:38,400 ICONIC SCULPTURES LIKE THE 1419 00:46:33,033 --> 00:46:38,700 FOUNTAIN OF TIME. 1420 00:46:35,033 --> 00:46:40,633 OR THE FOUNTAIN AT THE GREAT 1421 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,000 LAKES. 1422 00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:42,266 IN THE GARDEN AT THE ART 1423 00:46:40,633 --> 00:46:43,866 INSTITUTE. 1424 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,200 WE HAVE MORE ON THE FERGUSON 1425 00:46:42,266 --> 00:46:45,200 FUND ON THE WEBSITE. 1426 00:46:43,866 --> 00:46:45,200 >> INTERESTING. 1427 00:46:55,666 --> 00:47:02,133 >> NOW, WHAT IS NOW A FIRST 1428 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:02,900 FLOOR APARTMENT IN THIS BUILDING 1429 00:46:59,766 --> 00:47:05,700 1810 NORTH CLEVELAND WAS ONCE A 1430 00:47:02,133 --> 00:47:07,433 GROCERY STORE. 1431 00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:09,000 IT WAS CALLED JOE LITTLE'S OLD 1432 00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:10,966 TOWN MARKET UNTIL 1986. 1433 00:47:07,433 --> 00:47:12,100 WE TALKED TO THE CURRENT OWNER 1434 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,966 AND HE HAD THE BUILDING 1435 00:47:10,966 --> 00:47:17,666 REMODELED AND WHEN HE DID THAT 1436 00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:20,333 HE ADDED THE LETTERING TO HONOR 1437 00:47:13,966 --> 00:47:21,700 THE HISTORY OF THE BUILDING. 1438 00:47:17,666 --> 00:47:24,933 SMALL MARKETS LIKE JOE LITTLE'S 1439 00:47:20,333 --> 00:47:27,400 WERE NEIGHBORHOOD FIXTURES. 1440 00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:27,866 RESIDENTS WOULD WALK TO THE 1441 00:47:24,933 --> 00:47:30,233 NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET EVERYDAY. 1442 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:32,566 EVERYDAY. 1443 00:47:27,866 --> 00:47:33,000 THE STORE'S OFFERINGS REFLECTED 1444 00:47:30,233 --> 00:47:38,633 THE ETHNIC MAKEUP OF THE 1445 00:47:32,566 --> 00:47:39,100 NEIGHBORHOOD. 1446 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:43,266 POLISH FOOD, GERMANS, AND SO 1447 00:47:38,633 --> 00:47:45,066 FORTH. 1448 00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:46,600 BY 1914 THERE WERE 7400 GROCERY 1449 00:47:43,266 --> 00:47:47,300 STORES, 1800 MEAT MARKETS AND 1450 00:47:45,066 --> 00:47:49,166 HUNDREDS OF PRODUCE STANDS ALL 1451 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:51,200 OVER THE CITY. 1452 00:47:47,300 --> 00:47:51,566 THAT IS A STORE FOR 1453 00:47:49,166 --> 00:47:53,466 APPROXIMATELY EVERY 200 1454 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,533 RESIDENTS. 1455 00:47:51,566 --> 00:47:57,466 AROUND THAT TIME CHAIN STORES 1456 00:47:53,466 --> 00:47:59,033 LIKE A AND P AND KROGER BEGAN TO 1457 00:47:55,533 --> 00:48:01,600 ENTER THE MARKET AND SELL THE 1458 00:47:57,466 --> 00:48:04,333 GOODS AT LOWER PRICES THAN THE 1459 00:47:59,033 --> 00:48:05,700 MOM AND POP STORES. 1460 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:08,100 AND EVEN WITH THE INCREASED 1461 00:48:04,333 --> 00:48:11,566 COMPETITION THERE WERE 17,000 1462 00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:14,266 FOOD STORES IN CHICAGO IN 1933. 1463 00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:15,866 NOW COMPARE THAT WITH 2013 WHEN 1464 00:48:11,566 --> 00:48:16,466 THERE ARE 500 FOOD STORES 1465 00:48:14,266 --> 00:48:19,066 ACCORDING TO DATA FROM THE CITY 1466 00:48:15,866 --> 00:48:20,366 OF CHICAGO. 1467 00:48:16,466 --> 00:48:22,933 AND WE DID THIS GREAT MAP OF 1468 00:48:19,066 --> 00:48:24,666 LINCOLN PARK SHOWING JUST HOW 1469 00:48:20,366 --> 00:48:26,566 MANY OF THESE NEIGHBORHOOD 1470 00:48:22,933 --> 00:48:30,533 MARKETS THERE WERE IN 1949 AND 1471 00:48:24,666 --> 00:48:31,600 NOW LOOK AT THIS HERE ARE SOME 1472 00:48:26,566 --> 00:48:33,300 OF THE AREAS FOOD MARKETS TODAY. 1473 00:48:30,533 --> 00:48:34,666 SOME FORMER NEIGHBORHOOD 1474 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:38,633 GROCERIES YOU CAN SPOT THEM. 1475 00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:40,133 THE OLD ONES. 1476 00:48:34,666 --> 00:48:41,500 THE DEFUNCT ONES ARE LIKE IN 1477 00:48:38,633 --> 00:48:44,800 THIS BUILDING HAVE BEEN 1478 00:48:40,133 --> 00:48:46,500 CONVERTED TO RESIDENCES. 1479 00:48:41,500 --> 00:48:48,033 USED TO BE CALLED ADLER GROCERY. 1480 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:50,833 THE FAMILY OWNED TWO GROCERY 1481 00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:55,766 STORES IN THE AREA. 1482 00:48:48,033 --> 00:48:57,333 AND IF THAT NAME SOUNDS FAMILIAR 1483 00:48:50,833 --> 00:48:59,100 IT IS THE SAME FAMILY THAT OWNS 1484 00:48:55,766 --> 00:49:02,833 HABITLER BOWLING. 1485 00:48:57,333 --> 00:49:03,766 THIS IS ESPECIALLY GREAT BECAUSE 1486 00:48:59,100 --> 00:49:04,866 IT HAS A GOLD MEDAL GHOST SIGN 1487 00:49:02,833 --> 00:49:06,866 ON ITS SIGN. 1488 00:49:03,766 --> 00:49:09,566 >> YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED TO 1489 00:49:04,866 --> 00:49:12,233 KNOW WHEN MY FAMILY MOVED FROM 1490 00:49:06,866 --> 00:49:13,266 TEXAS WE LIVED IN WHAT USED TO 1491 00:49:09,566 --> 00:49:15,700 BE A MA AND PA GROCERY STORE 1492 00:49:12,233 --> 00:49:17,233 CONVERTED TO AN APARTMENT. 1493 00:49:13,266 --> 00:49:19,300 WHY DID THE NEIGHBORHOOD MARKETS 1494 00:49:15,700 --> 00:49:20,766 DISAPPEAR? 1495 00:49:17,233 --> 00:49:22,633 >> AFTER WORLD WAR II FAMILIES 1496 00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:24,133 GOT REFRIGERATORS AND CARS SO 1497 00:49:20,766 --> 00:49:25,200 THEY COULD STORE FOOD LONGER AND 1498 00:49:22,633 --> 00:49:27,933 THEY COULD DRIVE TO BIGGER 1499 00:49:24,133 --> 00:49:29,933 STORES THAT SOLD EVERYTHING THAT 1500 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:31,333 THEY NEEDED ALL IN ONE PLACE. 1501 00:49:27,933 --> 00:49:33,433 SO GROCERY STORE INDUSTRY 1502 00:49:29,933 --> 00:49:35,233 SHIFTED FROM MANY SMALL STORES 1503 00:49:31,333 --> 00:49:36,500 TO FEWER LARGER STORES. 1504 00:49:33,433 --> 00:49:38,966 SOME INDEPENDENTLY OWNED 1505 00:49:35,233 --> 00:49:41,966 GROCERIES DID FEND OFF THE 1506 00:49:36,500 --> 00:49:42,333 COMPETITION FOR A WHILE BY 1507 00:49:38,966 --> 00:49:44,666 CONSOLIDATING THE CHAINS WE 1508 00:49:41,966 --> 00:49:46,666 REMEMBER. 1509 00:49:42,333 --> 00:49:48,700 BUT FOR THE MOST PART THE BIG 1510 00:49:44,666 --> 00:49:50,566 CHAINS BEAT OUT THE MOM AND POPS 1511 00:49:46,666 --> 00:49:52,766 IN CHICAGO UNTIL THEY THEMSELVES 1512 00:49:48,700 --> 00:49:55,866 FILL VICTIM TO BIGGER CHAINS 1513 00:49:50,566 --> 00:49:56,433 LIKE JEWEL AND DOMINICK'S WHO 1514 00:49:52,766 --> 00:49:57,666 CORNERED THE BOOMING SUBURBAN 1515 00:49:55,866 --> 00:50:00,100 MARKET. 1516 00:49:56,433 --> 00:50:02,266 >> WHEN YOU DRIVE AROUND THE 1517 00:49:57,666 --> 00:50:04,666 CITY YOU SEE THE OLD WHICH WERE 1518 00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:07,166 MA AND PA GROCERY STORES AND A 1519 00:50:02,266 --> 00:50:10,900 LOT ARE CHARMING APARTMENTS. 1520 00:50:04,666 --> 00:50:12,200 AND THEY ARE ON CORNERS AND THE 1521 00:50:07,166 --> 00:50:14,100 PEOPLE AND THEN THAT CENTER POLE 1522 00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:15,100 AT THE ENTRANCE. 1523 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,566 STILL A LOT OF CHARM AND 1524 00:50:14,100 --> 00:50:17,700 HISTORY. 1525 00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:18,400 GEOFFREY, THANK YOU FOR BEING 1526 00:50:16,566 --> 00:50:20,166 CHARMING AND HISTORIC. 1527 00:50:17,700 --> 00:50:22,033 >> THANK YOU. 1528 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:24,300 >> AND YOU CAN CHECK OUT MORE OF 1529 00:50:20,166 --> 00:50:25,833 OUR PHOTOS OF NEIGHBORHOOD 1530 00:50:22,033 --> 00:50:28,233 GROCERY STORES AND VISIT MORE 1531 00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:30,500 FERGUSON FUN MEMORIALS AT OUR 1532 00:50:25,833 --> 00:50:33,566 WEBSITE WHERE YOU WILL FIND MORE 1533 00:50:28,233 --> 00:50:34,866 ON OTHER GEOFFREY STORIES AND 1534 00:50:30,500 --> 00:50:36,200 DON'T THROW AWAY YOUR SHOT TO 1535 00:50:33,566 --> 00:50:39,666 SEND IN YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT 1536 00:50:34,866 --> 00:50:39,666 CHICAGO TO GEOFFREY BAER AND WE 1537 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,666 ARE RIGHT BACK AFTER THIS. 1538 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:09,600 >> EVERYDAY DINOSAUR LOVERS 1539 00:51:03,433 --> 00:51:11,666 FLOCK TO THE FIELD MUSEUM TO 1540 00:51:06,366 --> 00:51:14,266 MARVEL AT THE T REX SKELETON. 1541 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:16,633 HER FORM CONJURES IMAGES OF 1542 00:51:11,666 --> 00:51:17,433 SNAPPING JAWS AND NASHING TEETH 1543 00:51:14,266 --> 00:51:19,200 BUT THE MOST VIVID IMAGINATION 1544 00:51:16,633 --> 00:51:22,266 CAN USE HELP. 1545 00:51:17,433 --> 00:51:25,066 AN EXHIBITION AT THE FIELD 1546 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:26,500 MUSEUM USES ANIMATRONICS TO 1547 00:51:22,266 --> 00:51:29,166 BRING TO LIFE A MOVIE'S WORTH OF 1548 00:51:25,066 --> 00:51:31,666 DINOSAURS INCLUDING A T REX. 1549 00:51:26,500 --> 00:51:33,600 HERE IS ANOTHER LOOK INSIDE 1550 00:51:29,166 --> 00:51:36,400 JURASSIC WORLD, THE EXHIBITION. 1551 00:51:31,666 --> 00:51:38,600 >> HAVE YOU WONDERED WHAT SUE, 1552 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:42,466 THE FIELD MUSEUM'S T REX WOULD 1553 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:44,833 LOOK LIKE WITH MEAT ON HER BONES 1554 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:46,933 IF IS WELL, NOW YOU CAN FIND OUT 1555 00:51:42,466 --> 00:51:48,500 STEPS OUTSIDE THE MUSEUM'S DOORS 1556 00:51:44,833 --> 00:51:53,366 IN JURASSIC WORLD, THE 1557 00:51:46,933 --> 00:51:57,733 EXHIBITION. 1558 00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:59,266 INSIDE A 16,000 SQUARE FOOT TENT 1559 00:51:53,366 --> 00:52:02,233 DINOSAUR LOVERS CAN GAZE UP AND 1560 00:51:57,733 --> 00:52:06,033 GET FACE-TO-FACE WITH A RAPTOR 1561 00:51:59,266 --> 00:52:06,666 AND, YES, ENCOUNTER A RAGING T 1562 00:52:02,233 --> 00:52:09,100 REX WHO IS THE FIELD MUSEUM 1563 00:52:06,033 --> 00:52:09,433 PRESIDENT'S FAVORITE. 1564 00:52:06,666 --> 00:52:11,833 >> THERE IS NO QUESTION THE T 1565 00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:14,133 REX. 1566 00:52:09,433 --> 00:52:16,966 THE SCARIEST, THE MOST DOMINANT 1567 00:52:11,833 --> 00:52:18,933 AND DANGEROUS AND THEY DO A 1568 00:52:14,133 --> 00:52:19,466 WONDERFUL JOB OF CONVEYING THOSE 1569 00:52:16,966 --> 00:52:21,066 ASPECTS OF THOSE REMARKABLE 1570 00:52:18,933 --> 00:52:23,133 ANIMALS. 1571 00:52:19,466 --> 00:52:25,866 >> PRESENTED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH 1572 00:52:21,066 --> 00:52:27,066 THE FIELD MUSEUM THE JURASSIC 1573 00:52:23,133 --> 00:52:32,833 WORLD EXHIBIT AIMS TO BE AN 1574 00:52:25,866 --> 00:52:34,733 EMERSIVE EXPERIENCE THAT BRINGS 1575 00:52:27,066 --> 00:52:37,533 THE MOVIE AND THE STARS TO LIFE. 1576 00:52:32,833 --> 00:52:39,433 VISITORS EXPLORE THE ISLAND THE 1577 00:52:34,733 --> 00:52:42,933 SITE OF THE FICTIONAL DINOSAUR 1578 00:52:37,533 --> 00:52:44,566 PARK JURASSIC WORLD THROUGH A 1579 00:52:39,433 --> 00:52:46,233 SERIES OF JUNGLE ENVIRONMENTS 1580 00:52:42,933 --> 00:52:49,133 FEATURING DINOS FROM THE PLACID 1581 00:52:44,566 --> 00:52:50,366 TO THE PETRIFYING. 1582 00:52:46,233 --> 00:52:54,166 ALSO ON THE TOUR IS A TRAINING 1583 00:52:49,133 --> 00:52:55,900 PADDOCK SIMILAR TO THE ONE IN 1584 00:52:50,366 --> 00:52:56,233 THE MOVIE WHERE CHRIS PRATT'S 1585 00:52:54,166 --> 00:52:58,033 CHARACTER SOOTHED SNARLING 1586 00:52:55,900 --> 00:53:00,366 RAPTORS. 1587 00:52:56,233 --> 00:53:02,033 THE PRODUCERS SAY WHILE IT IS A 1588 00:52:58,033 --> 00:53:03,733 THRILLING GOOD TIME, THE 1589 00:53:00,366 --> 00:53:06,133 PARTNERSHIP WITH FIELD MUSEUM 1590 00:53:02,033 --> 00:53:07,900 GIVES VISITORS MORE TO EXPLORE. 1591 00:53:03,733 --> 00:53:11,933 >> WE ARE FINDING THAT IT 1592 00:53:06,133 --> 00:53:13,333 INSPIRES FAMILIES AND KIDS TO GO 1593 00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:15,633 AND LEARN MORE ABOUT 1594 00:53:11,933 --> 00:53:17,366 PALEONTOLOGY AND WE ARE EXCITED 1595 00:53:13,333 --> 00:53:19,233 TO SEE AFTER THE EXHIBIT. 1596 00:53:15,633 --> 00:53:20,600 >> THAT IS JUST WHAT THE FIELD 1597 00:53:17,366 --> 00:53:22,533 MUSEUM IS BETTING ON. 1598 00:53:19,233 --> 00:53:25,000 >> WE DISCUSSED WITH OUR 1599 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:26,433 SCIENTISTS HOW THEY BECAME 1600 00:53:22,533 --> 00:53:28,900 INTERESTED IN PALEONTOLOGY AND 1601 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:31,633 MANY INSTANCES IT WAS THROUGH 1602 00:53:26,433 --> 00:53:33,566 THE USE OF FICTION THROUGH 1603 00:53:28,900 --> 00:53:34,733 STORIES, NOVELS, MOVIES. 1604 00:53:31,633 --> 00:53:37,733 AND SO WE ARE HOPING THAT 1605 00:53:33,566 --> 00:53:39,466 JURASSIC WORLD WILL INTRODUCE 1606 00:53:34,733 --> 00:53:41,100 PEOPLE TO THE FANTASY OF WHAT 1607 00:53:37,733 --> 00:53:42,966 OUR FOSSILS MIGHT HAVE LOOKED 1608 00:53:39,466 --> 00:53:44,166 LIKE AND THEN COME TO UNDERSTAND 1609 00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:46,266 THE VALUE OF THESE COLLECTIONS 1610 00:53:42,966 --> 00:53:48,633 ALL THE MORE. 1611 00:53:44,166 --> 00:53:50,500 >> EVEN THOUGH THE JURASSIC 1612 00:53:46,266 --> 00:53:52,233 WORLD EXHIBIT IS ENTERTAINMENT 1613 00:53:48,633 --> 00:53:53,866 FIRST, THE PRODUCERS SAY GETTING 1614 00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:57,900 THE SCIENCE AS ACCURATE AS 1615 00:53:52,233 --> 00:53:58,900 POSSIBLE WAS CRUCIAL TO MAKING 1616 00:53:53,866 --> 00:54:01,333 IT FEEL REAL TO DINOSAUR FANS. 1617 00:53:57,900 --> 00:54:02,666 >> PALEONTOLOGY THEY HAVE DONE 1618 00:53:58,900 --> 00:54:05,400 STUDIES TO MAKE SURE IT HAS THAT 1619 00:54:01,333 --> 00:54:07,600 TRUE REAL EXPERIENCE. 1620 00:54:02,666 --> 00:54:09,900 SO THERE IS A NUMBER OF 1621 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:11,633 DIFFERENT INTERACTIVE AN MA 1622 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:13,933 TONICS BUT TO THE ROAR AND THE 1623 00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:17,633 LIFE THAT COMES WITH THEM. 1624 00:54:11,633 --> 00:54:19,233 IT'S FUN TO WATCH FAMILIES BUT 1625 00:54:13,933 --> 00:54:21,666 ESPECIALLY THE KIDS THAT WALK IN 1626 00:54:17,633 --> 00:54:23,166 THEY ARE WATCHING IN AMAZEMENT 1627 00:54:19,233 --> 00:54:25,500 AND GET AN IDEA WHAT IT WOULD BE 1628 00:54:21,666 --> 00:54:25,800 LIKE NEXT TO A DINOSAUR. 1629 00:54:23,166 --> 00:54:28,466 >> AND THEY DID A GOOD JOB OF 1630 00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:31,633 IT. 1631 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:33,333 >> THE COLOR, THE TEXTURE OF THE 1632 00:54:28,466 --> 00:54:35,433 SKIN IS REALLY, IT IS A 1633 00:54:31,633 --> 00:54:37,433 SCIENTIFIC GUESS BUT IT IS AT 1634 00:54:33,333 --> 00:54:40,466 THE END OF THE DAY IT'S FANTASY. 1635 00:54:35,433 --> 00:54:42,733 WHAT WE REALLY DO KNOW A GREAT 1636 00:54:37,433 --> 00:54:44,633 DEAL ABOUT IS THE FROM THE 1637 00:54:40,466 --> 00:54:44,933 FOSSILS IS THE STRUCTURE OF THE 1638 00:54:42,733 --> 00:54:46,900 BODIES AND PROBABLY HOW THEY 1639 00:54:44,633 --> 00:54:49,033 MOVED. 1640 00:54:44,933 --> 00:54:50,600 AND THIS IS A FAIR 1641 00:54:46,900 --> 00:54:51,900 REPRESENTATION OF THE BEST 1642 00:54:49,033 --> 00:54:53,366 SCIENTIFIC GUESSTIMATES WHAT WE 1643 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:55,133 KNOW ABOUT THE ANIMALS. 1644 00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:57,533 >> THE CHICAGO IS THE SHOW'S 1645 00:54:53,366 --> 00:54:57,966 SECOND STOP IN THE UNITED STATES 1646 00:54:55,133 --> 00:54:59,233 AFTER A 2016 STAY IN 1647 00:54:57,533 --> 00:55:02,133 PHILADELPHIA. 1648 00:54:57,966 --> 00:55:03,500 THE FIELD SAYS THEY ARE EXCITED 1649 00:54:59,233 --> 00:55:05,566 TO WELCOME THE NEIGHBORS EVEN IF 1650 00:55:02,133 --> 00:55:07,400 THEY ARE A LITTLE LOUD. 1651 00:55:03,500 --> 00:55:10,233 >> FOR ME, THE GREAT THRILL 1652 00:55:05,566 --> 00:55:12,633 EVERYDAY IS WALKING THROUGH THE 1653 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:12,966 FIELD MUSEUM AND WATCHING THE 1654 00:55:10,233 --> 00:55:16,133 PEOPLE ASTONISHED BY OUR 1655 00:55:12,633 --> 00:55:16,533 SCIENCE. 1656 00:55:12,966 --> 00:55:19,000 AND THIS EXHIBIT EMBODIES THAT 1657 00:55:16,133 --> 00:55:20,333 BEAUTIFULLY. 1658 00:55:16,533 --> 00:55:22,166 BECAUSE YOU GET TO WATCH THE 1659 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,500 SURPRISE, THE SOMETIMES FEAR, A 1660 00:55:20,333 --> 00:55:27,700 LITTLE BIT OF PANIC IN THE YOUNG 1661 00:55:22,166 --> 00:55:29,533 ONES SOMETIMES. 1662 00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:30,900 IT'S REALLY FUN. 1663 00:55:27,700 --> 00:55:32,833 >> JURASSIC WORLD THE EXHIBITION 1664 00:55:29,533 --> 00:55:33,400 RUNS THROUGH JANUARY 7TH. 1665 00:55:30,900 --> 00:55:35,000 >> AND THAT IS OUR SHOW FOR THIS 1666 00:55:32,833 --> 00:55:36,566 WEDNESDAY NIGHT. 1667 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:38,133 I HOPE YOU JOIN US TOMORROW 1668 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:40,566 NIGHT LIVE AT 7:00 P.M. 1669 00:55:36,566 --> 00:55:41,766 AFTER SEVERAL U.S. HOUSE MEMBERS 1670 00:55:38,133 --> 00:55:42,866 FILE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT 1671 00:55:40,566 --> 00:55:45,000 AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP, IS IT 1672 00:55:41,766 --> 00:55:48,233 CLOSER TO REALITY? 1673 00:55:42,866 --> 00:55:49,366 OR HIGHLY IMPROBABLE? 1674 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:52,066 AND A PREVIEW OF THE NEW WTTW 1675 00:55:48,233 --> 00:55:52,533 DOCUMENTARY WHICH GOES BEHIND 1676 00:55:49,366 --> 00:55:53,833 THE SCENES OF THE NEW CHICAGO 1677 00:55:52,066 --> 00:55:55,033 "NUTCRACKER". 1678 00:55:52,533 --> 00:55:56,600 NOW FOR ALL OF US HERE AT 1679 00:55:53,833 --> 00:55:59,733 "CHICAGO TONIGHT" I'M PHIL PONCE 1680 00:55:55,033 --> 00:56:04,033 AND I THANK YOU FOR WATCHING. 1681 00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:04,033 GOOD NIGHT. 1682 00:55:59,733 --> 00:56:04,033 ♪