WEBVTT

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>> WELL, IT IS A SEASON FOR

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SPIRITED PARTIES, FLOWING EGGNOG

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AND CHAMPAGNE TOASTS.

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FOR MOST PEOPLE ALCOHOL IS JUST

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PART OF A HOLIDAY CELEBRATION

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NOT THE FOCUS BUT THE SEASON CAN

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BE TOUGH FOR THE ESTIMATED 17

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MILLION AMERICANS WHO ARE

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BELIEVED TO BE ALCOHOLICS.

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THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 7% OF THE

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ADULT POPULATION.

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IN HIS BOOK, "OUT OF THE WRECK I

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RISE: A LITERARY COMPANION TO

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RECOVERY", "CHICAGO SUN TIMES"

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COLUMNIST AND RECOVERING

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ALCOHOLIC NEIL STEINBERG TURNS

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TO WRITERS, POETS, PLAYWRIGHTS

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AND SOCIAL MEDIA FOR INSIGHTS

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INTO ADDICTION ESPECIALLY TO

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ALCOHOL.

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GOOD TO HAVE YOU ON THE SHOW.

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HOW DID THE BOOK COME ABOUT?

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>> I AM AN AVID READER AND MARK

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THEM WITH POST-IT NOTES.

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AND I FOUND THESE QUOTES GAVE ME

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STRENGTH AND HELPED ME YOU HAD

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WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

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ADDICTION CAN BE CONFUSING AND

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HERE THIS IS SOMETHING WHICH THE

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GREAT WRITERS AND POETS TALKED

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ABOUT.

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AND IT HELPS TO HAVE THESE

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PHRASES WITH YOU.

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>> AND ONE OF THE WRITERS THAT

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YOU LOOK TO IS SAMUEL JOHNSON

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AND HERE IS A QUOTE THAT YOU

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HAVE IN THE BOOK AT A TAVERN

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THERE IS A FREEDOM FROM ANXIETY

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AND YOU ARE SURE YOU ARE WELCOME

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AND THE MORE NOISE

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>> THAT IS IN THE BEGINNING AND

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STARTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE

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PARTY AS ONE'S RECOVERY OFTEN

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DOES AND I WANTED TO SHOW THAT I

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UNDERSTAND THAT WE MIGHT THAT

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ALCOHOL IS WONDERFUL DRUGS MAKE

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YOU FEEL WONDERFUL FOR A WHILE.

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AND THEN FOR CERTAIN AMOUNT OF

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PEOPLE SOMETHING HAPPENS AND YOU

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HAVE TO GIVE IT UP.

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>> 11 YEARS AGO YOU SAID YOU

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WERE THE MOST FAMOUS DRUNK IN

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CHICAGO AFTER YOU WERE ARRESTED

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AND CHARGED WITH DOMESTIC ABUSE.

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IS THERE SOLACE KNOWING SO MANY

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OUTSTANDING PEOPLE STRUGGLED

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WITH ALCOHOL?

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>> I DID NOT INVENT THIS PROBLEM

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THAT IS COMFORT IN THAT AND YOU

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SEE SEE PEOPLE MORE SKILLED THAN

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I HAD TO COPE WITH IT.

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AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SHAMED

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AND THE BEAUTY OF MY PUBLIC

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BREAKDOWN I DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY

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ABOUT HIDING IT.

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I CAN CAN SAY I AM AN ALCOHOLIC

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AND I CANNOT DRINK AND IT'S NOT

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NEWS TO ANYBODY.

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>> ANOTHER POET ANOTHER WRITER

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AS SOMEONE WHO INFLUENCED YOU

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WAS LANGSTON HUGHES FROM THE

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POEM ISLAND WAVE OF SORROW DO

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NOT DROWN ME NOW.

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HAVE THERE BEEN POINTS IN YOUR

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EXPERIENCE WHEN YOU HAVE FELT

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SORROWFUL?

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>> OF COURSE YOU GRIEVE THIS IS

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SOMETHING THAT YOU LOVE AND YOU

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HAVE TO GIVE IT UP.

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LIKE NEVER VISITING THE PERSON

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THAT YOU LOVE THE MOST IN A WAY

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I LOVE THAT POEM IT'S 30 WORDS

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AND TALKING ABOUT THIS BAD

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SITUATION TAKING HIM TO A GOOD

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PLACE.

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AND THAT IS WHAT YOU FIND IN

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RECOVERY.

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YOU ARE ARE GIVING UP SOMETHING

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THAT YOU LOVE AND GOING THROUGH

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SOMETHING HUMILIATING BUT ENDING

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UP ON THE DESERT ISLAND WHERE

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YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE.

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AND IT IS A GOOD THING.

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YOU MAKE IT INTO SOMETHING GOOD

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AND ONE ARGUMENT IS THAT

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RECOVERY IS HEROIC IT IS AN

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ADVENTURE THAT YOU GO ON AND

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CONQUER THIS BEAST AND HAVE A

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TRIUMPH AND IT IS A TRIUMPH

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EVERYDAY THAT YOU CAN HAVE AND

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THAT THE WRITERS CAN HELP YOU

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SEE AND UNDERSTAND.

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>> AS SOMEONE WHO IS IN

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RECOVERY.

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YOU HAVE BEEN IN RECOVERY FOR 10

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YEARS.

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>> MORE THAN 10 YEARS.

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>> IS THERE A DAY THAT GOES BY

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WHEN YOU DO NOT THINK ABOUT

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ALCOHOL WHEN YOU WOULD NOT LIKE

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A DRINK?

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>> NO.

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I THINK OF IT AS THE BEAST IN

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THE BASEMENT AND SOME DAYS IT

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HOWLS LOUDLY AND OTHERS IT'S

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QUIET.

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YOU ARE LIVING LIFE AND DOING

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OTHER THINGS AND THE PURPOSE OF

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THE BOOK IF YOU ARE JUST GIVING

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SOMETHING UP AND DENIES

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YOURSELF --

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THERE IS A CHAPTER ON RELAPSE

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AND YOU WILL BE BACK TO IT.

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YOU NEED SOMETHING TO REPLACE

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THIS ADVENTURE THIS JOY AND

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ROMANCE AND I THINK LITERATURE

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AND POETRY CAN DO IT FOR PEOPLE.

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>> IS IT POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE WHO

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DON'T SUFFER FROM ADDICTION TO

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GET IT TO KNOW WHAT THE BEAST IS

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LIKE?

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>> I HOPE SO.

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PEOPLE ESPECIALLY FAMILY

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MEMBERS.

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THEY THINK ADDICTION IS A STUPID

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DECISION THAT STUPID PEOPLE MAKE

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BECAUSE THEY ARE STUPID AND IT

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IS A DISEASE SOMETHING THAT --

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WE QUOTE JUNKY.

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WILLIAM BORROW SAYS NO ONE WANTS

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TO BECOME AN ADDICT.

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YOU WAKE UP ONE DAY AND YOU ARE

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HOOKED AND THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS.

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YOU THINK YOU HAVE CONTROL OF

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THIS BUT IT HAS CONTROL OF YOU.

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>> AND ONE QUOTE IN YOUR BOOK

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THAT I FOUND MOVING AND VERY

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SAD.

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AND IT COMES FROM THE DAUGHTER

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OF WILLIAM FAULKNER AND SHE

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WRITES...

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AND YOU TALK ABOUT HOW I MEAN

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THAT QUOTE.

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>> EACH CHAPTER STARTS WITH A

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QUOTE AND THE FAMILY CHAPTER

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STARTS WITH THAT QUOTE AND YOU

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SEE WILLIAM FAULKNER DENIES THE

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EXISTENCE OF HIS DAUGHTER AND

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THAT IS WHAT IT DOES TO YOU.

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YOU ARE THINKING ONLY OF THE

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SUBSTANCE THAT HE NEED.

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AND THE FAMILY CHAPTER IS I

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AHEARTBREAKING CHAPTER BUT A

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JOURNEY IT'S ABOUT FORGIVING THE

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ADDICTS AND FORGIVING YOUR

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FAMILY.

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TO ME IT TAKES YOU EACH QUOTE

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LEADS TO THE NEXT AND GUIDES YOU

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THROUGH THIS DIFFICULT JOURNEY

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YOU ARE TAKING.

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AND FAMILY IS WHERE A LOT OF IT

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STARTS AND MY WIFE WAS PUSHING

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ME INTO RECOVERY LONG BEFORE I

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UNDERSTOOD I HAD A PROBLEM.

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>> AND YOU WRITE ABOUT HOW

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ALCOHOL DID TAKE PRIORITY OVER

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YOUR FAMILY AT TIMES.

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AND ONE INSTANCE WHERE YOU WOULD

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DROP OFF YOUR SON --

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>> I DROPPED HIM OFF AT THE

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CHILDREN'S BOOK SECTION AND LOOK

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AT A BOOK AND I RAN NEXT DOOR TO

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SUNSET FOODS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO

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HAVE IT.

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YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS.

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IT'S NOT A CHOICE THAT YOU MAKE.

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IT IS A BLINDING COMPULSION THAT

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YOU HAVE.

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>> WHERE DOES THE TITLE COME

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FROM?

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>> OUT OF THE WRECK I RISE IS A

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POE WOMEN ABOUT A MAN A FORMER

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KING BOUND TO A WHEEL IN HELL

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AND HE IS PLANNING HIS ESCAPE

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THIS JOURNEY OF STEPS AND

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STAGES.

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AND FAMOUS LINES HE HAS THE

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DREAM, THE PROBLEMS THE DREAM

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NOW THE DREAMER AWAKES.

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AND THE IDEA IS THAT YOU CAN GET

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OUT OF THIS HELL.

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YOU CAN RISE OUT OF THE WRECK

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AND BECOME THIS DIFFERENT

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PERSON.

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THE PERFECT LINE FOR THE TITLE.

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>> ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE

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ABOUT SO MANY OF THE SELECTIONS

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IS THAT IT'S NOT HIGH PHENOMENA

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LAWSUITENT TONIGHT'S DIRECT.

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AND AND

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RAYMOND CARVER, SEVERAL WRITERS

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ARE CHARACTERS.

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HERE WAS A MAN ABOUT TO DIE.

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40 YEARS OLD HE MANAGED TO GIVE

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UP DRINKING AND IN THE LAST 10

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YEARS HE CONSIDERED GRAVY.

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THE LAST CHAPTER CALLED GRAVY

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AND IT TALKS ABOUT HOW HE VIEWED

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THIS GIFT OF BEING ALIVE FOR 10

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EXTRA YEARS AND HE WAS ABLE TO

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BECOME WHAT HE WANTED TO BECOME.

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AND YOU KNOW TO ME THAT IS

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IMPORTANT TO SAY TO PEOPLE YOU

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DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS.

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YOU CAN DO SOMETHING ELSE.

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>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FIND

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SO INTERESTING ABOUT YOUR

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RECOVERY IS THAT AA WAS NOT

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APPEALING TO YOU.

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IT DID NOT WORK FOR YOU.

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AND IT'S WORKED FOR SO MANY

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PEOPLE.

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WHY NOT YOU?

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>> WELL, AA OFFERS THE GOD AND

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THE COMPANION SHIP OF OTHER

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PEOPLE AND THOSE WERE TWO THINGS

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I WAS ARMORED AGAIN.

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I AM NOT CRITICAL OF AA.

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IT IS THE LONGEST CHAPTER AND IT

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HELPS LOTS OF PEOPLE BUT IT'S

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LIKE CHURCH IT DID NOT GIVE ME

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MEANING AND I FOUND THE QUOTES

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IT WAS TO ME, THIS IS SOMETHING

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IN ADDITION.

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I WOULD NEVER CRITICIZE AA AND

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SAY DO NOT GO.

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IT DID NOT HELP ME I HAD TO FIND

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SOMETHING THAT DID.

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IN RECOVERY TO ME YOU USE WHAT

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HELPS KEEP YOU SOBER DO THAT

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THING.

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>> ISN'T IT HARDER TO DO IT ON

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YOUR OWN?

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>> I HAVE A THERAPIST AND A

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FAMILY AND PEOPLE IF I FELT LIKE

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I WAS SLIPPING I WOULD GO TO A

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MEETING.

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AA IS LIKE A HOSPITAL.

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YOU GO WHEN YOU NEED IT.

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YES IT'S HARDER BUT I AM A LONER

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KIND OF GUY.

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ONE OF THE JOYS OF BEING SOBER I

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DON'T HAVE TO GO TO MEETINGS.

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THEY WOULD SAY YOU ARE PLANNING

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FOR A FALL BECAUSE THOUGHT THAT

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IS WHY YOU'RE ALWAYS IN

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RECOVERY.

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AND NOW I KNOW.

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IT IS A DANGER EVERYDAY.

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AND I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.

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>> AS WE MENTIONED SOME OF YOUR

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SOURCES COME FROM ON-LINE POP

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CULTURE.

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ONE FROM A TWEET FROM RICKY GEAR

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VASE AND SAYS PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE

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IT WHEN YOU CHANGE THEY DON'T

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LIKE IT BECAUSE A PIECE OF THEM

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DIES.

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ARE THERE PEOPLE WHO LIKED YOU

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BETTER?

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>> OF COURSE.

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I HAVE PEOPLE WHO NEVER TALKED

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TO ME AGAIN AFTER I GOT SOBER.

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NEVER INVITED ME OVER BECAUSE

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THEY ARE UNCOMFORTABLE.

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MAYBE THEY HAVE PROBLEMS

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THEMSELVES OR LOOK DOWN ON ME

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FOR WHAT HAPPENED AND I HAVE TO

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LET THOSE PEOPLE GO.

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PEOPLE HEAR POETRY AND

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LITERATURE THEY THINK OF PLATO

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BUT I WAS GLAD TO INCLUDE

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SIMPSONS AND SPIDER-MAN, BECAUSE

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THIS IS NOTHING IF NOT A

09:59.133 --> 10:05.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5%
CONTEMPORARY PROBLEM.

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JOHN PHILLIPS FROM THE MAMAS AND

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THE PAPAS AND ATALKING ABOUT HIS

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DRUG ADDICTION AND IT'S LIKE A

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HORROR MOVIECH WE BRING THE

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PEOPLE TOGETHER AND WHEN SOMEONE

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RECOVERS SOMETIMES THE PEOPLE

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GET TOGETHER AND THEY TRY TO

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HELP YOU.

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SO I GATHERED THE GREAT MINDS OF

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THE PAST AND THE PRESENT AND

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THEY TRY TO HELP YOU.

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>> NEIL STEINBERG THANK YOU FOR

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JOINING US IT IS A FASCINATING

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BOOK.

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YOU CAN JUMP IN AND OUT AND GAIN

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SOMETHING FROM IT.

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THANK YOU.

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HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

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>> SAME TO YOU.