WEBVTT 00:00.067 --> 00:00.734 QUALITY OF LIFE IN 00:00.734 --> 00:01.768 THE 00:01.768 --> 00:02.603 GREAT LAKES 00:02.603 --> 00:02.936 REGION. 00:02.936 --> 00:03.904 >>> AT AGE 00:04.838 --> 00:05.806 29, DAVID MILIBAND 00:05.806 --> 00:06.974 BECAME CHIEF OF 00:06.974 --> 00:08.575 POLICY FOR 00:08.842 --> 00:10.944 BRITISH PRIME MINISTER 00:10.944 --> 00:11.512 TONY 00:11.512 --> 00:11.812 BLAIR. 00:11.812 --> 00:13.146 HE BECAME THE THIRD YOUNGEST 00:13.146 --> 00:14.615 FOREIGN SECRETARY, THAT'S THE 00:14.615 --> 00:16.016 EQUIVALENT OF SECRETARY OF STATE 00:16.016 --> 00:17.017 IN BRITISH HISTORY. 00:17.017 --> 00:18.218 HE WAS EXPECTED BY MANY TO 00:18.218 --> 00:19.586 BECOME LEADER OF THE LABOR 00:19.586 --> 00:20.087 PARTY 00:20.087 --> 00:21.555 AND POSSIBLY PRIME 00:21.555 --> 00:22.856 MINISTER. 00:22.856 --> 00:23.490 BUT THEN THE 00:23.490 --> 00:24.124 SEEMINGLY 00:24.391 --> 00:24.958 UNTHINKABLE HAPPENED. 00:24.958 --> 00:26.460 HE LOST THE LEADERSHIP ELECTION 00:26.727 --> 00:28.896 TO HIS YOUNGER BROTHER. 00:28.896 --> 00:29.997 HE SUBSEQUENTLY RESIGNED 00:29.997 --> 00:30.564 FROM 00:30.564 --> 00:31.732 PARLIAMENT AND HAS NOW TAKEN ON 00:31.732 --> 00:33.033 A DIFFERENT CHALLENGE. 00:33.033 --> 00:34.168 LAST YEAR HE WAS NAMED TO LEAD 00:34.168 --> 00:35.469 THE INTERNATIONAL RESCUE 00:35.869 --> 00:37.204 COMMITTEE, A NON-PROFIT THAT 00:37.204 --> 00:38.138 WORKS 00:38.138 --> 00:40.007 WITH 00:40.007 --> 00:41.308 REFUGEES IN 40 00:42.809 --> 00:43.810 COUNTRIES. 00:43.810 --> 00:44.511 AND WE 00:44.511 --> 00:46.079 WELCOME DAVID MILIBAND TO 00:46.079 --> 00:47.147 CHICAGO 00:47.147 --> 00:47.481 TONIGHT. 00:47.481 --> 00:47.948 >> THANK YOU. 00:47.948 --> 00:49.249 >> THE INTERNATIONAL RESCUE 00:49.249 --> 00:50.284 COMMITTEE, IT'S BASED IN NEW 00:50.284 --> 00:51.251 YORK, BUT A LOT OF AMERICANS 00:51.251 --> 00:52.152 MAY NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS. 00:52.152 --> 00:53.720 WHAT DOES 00:53.720 --> 00:53.854 IT 00:54.755 --> 00:55.022 DO? 00:55.022 --> 00:56.323 >> THE IRC WAS 00:56.323 --> 00:58.458 FOUNDED BY 00:58.458 --> 00:59.326 ALBERT 00:59.326 --> 01:00.661 EINSTEIN TO HELP REFUGEES 01:00.928 --> 01:02.429 FLEEING THE NAZIS 01:02.429 --> 01:04.898 IN 01:05.065 --> 01:05.432 GERMANY. 01:05.432 --> 01:06.333 AND SINCE 01:06.333 --> 01:07.568 THEN IT'S HELPING NEW 01:07.835 --> 01:09.570 AMERICANS ON THE PATH TO 01:09.937 --> 01:10.470 CITIZENSHIP. 01:10.470 --> 01:11.538 IT HELPS ALL OF THE 01:11.538 --> 01:12.039 PEOPLE 01:12.039 --> 01:13.307 AROUND THE WORLD IN CRISIS 01:13.740 --> 01:14.675 SPOTS, 01:14.675 --> 01:15.943 SYRIA, 01:15.943 --> 01:17.711 AFGHANISTAN, 01:17.711 --> 01:18.846 BURMA, WHERE THERE IS 01:18.846 --> 01:20.547 CIVIL 01:20.814 --> 01:22.516 CONFLICT OR NATURAL 01:22.749 --> 01:23.150 DISASTER, 01:23.150 --> 01:24.384 WE'LL GET THERE WITHIN 72 01:24.384 --> 01:24.885 HOURS 01:24.885 --> 01:26.186 AND WE'LL STAY THERE UNTIL THE 01:26.453 --> 01:28.589 JOB IS DONE GIVING PEOPLE 01:28.856 --> 01:30.457 DIGNITY IN THE FACE OF EXTREME 01:30.891 --> 01:31.258 HARDSHIP. 01:31.258 --> 01:32.192 >> AND YOU FEEL A PARTICULAR 01:32.192 --> 01:33.727 INFINITY FOR THE WORK OF THE 01:33.727 --> 01:33.994 IRC. 01:33.994 --> 01:34.962 WHAT IS THAT HISTORY? 01:34.962 --> 01:36.230 >> BOTH OF MY PARENTS WERE 01:36.230 --> 01:36.597 REFUGEES. 01:36.597 --> 01:37.965 MY DAD CAME TO THE UK FROM 01:38.232 --> 01:39.233 BELGIUM IN 1940 01:39.233 --> 01:40.100 AS A 01:40.100 --> 01:40.467 REFUGEE. 01:40.467 --> 01:41.635 JOINED THE WORLD NAVY. 01:41.635 --> 01:42.803 AND THEN LIVED OUT THE 01:42.803 --> 01:43.537 IMMIGRANT 01:43.537 --> 01:44.638 DREAM REALLY AND WENT 01:44.638 --> 01:45.572 TO A 01:46.006 --> 01:46.406 UNIVERSITY. 01:46.406 --> 01:48.108 MADE A 01:48.108 --> 01:48.509 CAREER. 01:48.509 --> 01:49.810 MY MOM SPENT THE WAR IN POLAND 01:49.810 --> 01:50.978 AND THEN CAME TO 01:50.978 --> 01:51.979 THE 01:52.546 --> 01:53.247 UK. 01:53.247 --> 01:54.515 AT SOME LEVEL I FEEL 01:54.515 --> 01:55.415 TODAY'S 01:55.415 --> 01:56.683 REFUGEES, TODAY'S DISPLACED 01:56.683 --> 01:57.684 PEOPLE WHO ARE IN RECORD NUMBERS 01:57.684 --> 01:58.886 AROUND THE WORLD 01:58.886 --> 01:59.353 IN SOME WAY ARE 01:59.353 --> 02:00.888 REPAYING SOME OF THE DEBT THAT'S 02:00.888 --> 02:02.055 OWED BY MY FAMILY TO THE 02:02.055 --> 02:03.056 PEOPLE 02:03.056 --> 02:03.624 WHO HELPED THEM. 02:03.624 --> 02:04.591 >> LET'S TALK 02:04.591 --> 02:05.492 ABOUT SOME OF THE 02:05.492 --> 02:07.127 THINGS HAPPENING AROUND THE 02:07.127 --> 02:07.427 WORLD. 02:07.427 --> 02:08.695 AND YOU'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT 02:08.695 --> 02:10.097 SYRIA IN 02:10.097 --> 02:10.631 PART. 02:10.631 --> 02:11.698 AT 02:11.698 --> 02:13.534 THE CHICAGO COUNSEL 02:13.534 --> 02:14.134 AND 02:14.401 --> 02:15.802 GLOBAL AFFAIRS, THE 02:15.802 --> 02:16.203 SYRIAN 02:16.203 --> 02:17.237 PEOPLE ARE PAYING WHAT HAPPENED 02:17.237 --> 02:17.971 IN IRAQ. 02:17.971 --> 02:19.506 WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY 02:19.840 --> 02:20.140 THAT? 02:20.140 --> 02:21.208 >> I MEAN AS 02:21.208 --> 02:22.276 PEOPLE REFLECT 02:22.276 --> 02:22.843 ON 02:22.843 --> 02:24.611 THE HUGE CHALLENGES AND 02:24.611 --> 02:25.045 TRAUMA 02:25.045 --> 02:26.146 OF THE DECAY OF 02:26.146 --> 02:28.081 THE IRAQ WAR, 02:28.348 --> 02:29.550 THERE'S 02:29.550 --> 02:30.384 UNDOUBTEDLY A FENCE 02:30.384 --> 02:30.784 OF 02:30.784 --> 02:31.885 REAL CAUTION IN THE WESTERN 02:31.885 --> 02:32.586 WORLD GENERALLY. 02:32.586 --> 02:34.254 NOT JUST IN 02:34.254 --> 02:35.522 THE UNITED STATES. 02:35.522 --> 02:36.757 ELSEWHERE -- AS WELL 02:36.757 --> 02:37.157 ELSEWHERE 02:37.157 --> 02:39.793 ABOUT MILITARY 02:39.793 --> 02:40.327 ENGAGEMENT 02:40.327 --> 02:41.261 OVERSEAS 02:41.261 --> 02:41.628 OVERSEAS. 02:41.628 --> 02:42.362 AND TO THAT EXTENT, I THINK WHAT 02:42.362 --> 02:44.198 YOU'RE SEEING PLAYING 02:44.198 --> 02:44.698 OUT IN 02:44.698 --> 02:46.099 SYRIA WHERE EVERYONE ELSE IS 02:46.099 --> 02:47.634 FIGHTING, 02:47.634 --> 02:47.868 RUSSIA 02:47.868 --> 02:48.869 IS THERE, THE 02:48.869 --> 02:50.270 WEST ISN'T THERE, YOU'RE 02:50.270 --> 02:50.838 SEEING 02:50.838 --> 02:51.939 THE SYRIAN 02:51.939 --> 02:53.140 PEOPLE, 02:53.140 --> 02:54.007 CIVILIANS IN 02:54.274 --> 02:55.843 HUGE NUMBERS, 9 02:55.843 --> 02:56.343 MILLION OF THEM 02:56.610 --> 02:57.845 DISPLACED FROM THEIR 02:57.845 --> 02:58.245 HOMES, 02:58.245 --> 02:59.813 THEY'RE INNOCENT VICTIMS OF A 03:00.080 --> 03:01.715 POWER STRUGGLE NOT ONLY GOING ON 03:01.715 --> 03:02.883 IN THE COUNTRY BUT WITHIN THE 03:02.883 --> 03:03.217 REGION. 03:03.217 --> 03:04.284 >> WHERE DO YOU SEE THAT 03:04.284 --> 03:05.319 CONFLICT HEADED? 03:05.319 --> 03:06.720 >> AT THE MOMENT IT'S GETTING 03:06.720 --> 03:07.421 WORSE AND WORSE. 03:07.421 --> 03:08.889 THE OPTIONS ARE NARROWING AND 03:09.156 --> 03:09.656 GETTING WORSE. 03:09.656 --> 03:11.158 AND THE PEOPLE I'M SEEKING TO 03:11.158 --> 03:12.459 HELP, THOSE INSIDE 03:12.459 --> 03:13.026 SYRIA AND 03:13.026 --> 03:14.361 THOSE REFUGEES OUTSIDE, THOSE 03:14.361 --> 03:15.395 ARE BECOMING DIRE. 03:15.395 --> 03:16.597 I MEAN, YOU HAVE 03:16.597 --> 03:17.164 REPORTED ON 03:17.164 --> 03:18.398 YOUR OWN 03:18.398 --> 03:19.266 SHOW NOT JUST 03:19.266 --> 03:19.967 THE MASS 03:20.367 --> 03:21.468 KILLINGS, 03:21.468 --> 03:22.836 150,000 03:22.836 --> 03:23.303 DEAD, NOT JUST 03:23.303 --> 03:24.571 3 MILLION REFUGEES IN 03:24.838 --> 03:25.572 NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES. 03:25.572 --> 03:27.574 BUT POLIO, POLIO WHICH WAS 03:27.841 --> 03:29.810 ERADICATED IN SYRIA NOW 03:29.810 --> 03:30.210 REOCCURRING. 03:30.210 --> 03:32.513 REPORTS OF UP TO 03:32.746 --> 03:33.247 90,000 CHILDREN 03:33.247 --> 03:33.814 CARRYING POLIO. 03:33.814 --> 03:35.015 THIS IS THE -- IT'S 03:35.015 --> 03:35.749 THE 03:35.749 --> 03:36.984 DISSOLUTION OF A COUNTRY, OF 03:36.984 --> 03:37.784 AN 03:37.784 --> 03:38.585 EXTRAORDINARY COUNTRY AT THE 03:38.585 --> 03:39.786 HEART OF THE MIDDLE EAST 03:40.053 --> 03:41.488 DISSOLVEING IN 03:41.488 --> 03:42.122 THE FRONT OF OUR 03:42.122 --> 03:42.656 VERY EYES. 03:42.656 --> 03:44.291 AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S 03:44.558 --> 03:45.792 RIGHT TO CALL IT A SYRIA 03:45.792 --> 03:46.760 -- CALL 03:46.760 --> 03:47.961 SYRIA A REGIONAL EMERGENCY. 03:47.961 --> 03:49.263 NOT JUST A LOCAL 03:49.263 --> 03:49.630 EMERGENCY. 03:49.630 --> 03:50.864 >> AND SPEAKING OF DISSOLUTION 03:50.864 --> 03:51.798 OF A 03:51.798 --> 03:53.166 COUNTRY, AS A 03:53.166 --> 03:53.834 FORMER 03:54.067 --> 03:55.202 BRITISH FOREIGN SECRETARY AND 03:55.202 --> 03:56.336 KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT 03:56.336 --> 03:57.371 INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS, HOW 03:57.371 --> 03:58.805 WOULD YOU ASSESS 03:58.805 --> 04:01.041 WHAT'S GOING ON 04:01.041 --> 04:02.342 IN 04:02.342 --> 04:05.012 CRIMEA AND WHAT 04:05.012 --> 04:05.512 THE UNITED 04:05.512 --> 04:06.446 STATES, 04:06.446 --> 04:07.481 NATO, EUROPE AND HOW 04:07.481 --> 04:08.282 THOSE GROUPS ARE RESPONDING TO 04:08.282 --> 04:08.882 WHAT'S HAPPENING? 04:08.882 --> 04:10.017 >> WELL, 04:10.017 --> 04:11.485 OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE NO 04:11.752 --> 04:13.387 MILITARY OPTIONS WITH RESPECT 04:13.387 --> 04:13.654 TO 04:13.654 --> 04:15.055 WHAT'S HAPPENING IN 04:15.055 --> 04:15.789 CRIMEA. 04:15.789 --> 04:16.823 BUT IT ALSO 04:16.823 --> 04:17.791 REPRESENTS THE MOST 04:17.791 --> 04:19.826 DIRECT THREAT FOR FIVE YEARS 04:19.826 --> 04:20.260 OR 04:20.260 --> 04:22.229 SIX YEARS TO THE 04:22.229 --> 04:22.829 INTERNATIONAL 04:22.829 --> 04:23.997 ORDER OF RULES THAT'S BEEN 04:24.264 --> 04:26.867 ESTABLISHED BY HOW THE TERRITORY 04:26.867 --> 04:27.935 OF STATES 04:28.268 --> 04:29.670 ESTABLISHED. 04:29.670 --> 04:30.737 IN 04:30.737 --> 04:33.207 2008, YOU'LL REMEMBER 04:33.207 --> 04:33.607 RUSSIA 04:33.607 --> 04:36.643 ANNEXED 04:36.643 --> 04:36.743 TW 04:36.743 --> 04:37.778 O PROVINCES OF 04:38.212 --> 04:38.545 GEORGIA. 04:38.545 --> 04:40.347 AND THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS 04:40.614 --> 04:41.715 CHALLENGE TO NATIONAL 04:41.715 --> 04:43.217 AUTHORITIES OF ALL KIND. 04:43.217 --> 04:44.184 THERE'S NO MILITARY RESPONSE. 04:44.184 --> 04:45.786 THE KEY, 04:45.786 --> 04:45.919 I 04:45.919 --> 04:46.887 THINK, 04:46.887 --> 04:47.688 IS ABOUT 04:47.688 --> 04:48.655 HOW 04:48.655 --> 04:49.957 DO COUNTRIES 04:49.957 --> 04:50.724 IN EUROPE 04:50.724 --> 04:51.825 RESPOND 04:52.125 --> 04:53.427 ECONOMICALLY 04:53.427 --> 04:54.928 IN WHICH RUSSIA 04:55.195 --> 04:56.196 SALES IS VERY MUCH DEPENDENT. 04:56.196 --> 04:57.364 >> DO YOU THINK RUSSIA CONTINUES 04:57.364 --> 04:59.266 TO -- WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE 04:59.533 --> 05:01.001 PROSPECT OF RUSSIA POSSIBLY 05:01.268 --> 05:02.636 ATTEMPTING TO ANNEX OTHER PARTS 05:02.636 --> 05:03.670 OF UKRAINE? 05:03.670 --> 05:05.839 >> THAT'S OBVIOUSLY THE GREAT 05:05.839 --> 05:06.306 FEAR. 05:06.306 --> 05:07.407 WHENEVER YOU HEAR 05:07.407 --> 05:08.408 PRESIDENT 05:08.408 --> 05:09.409 PUTIN SAY HE'S 05:09.409 --> 05:10.711 GOING TO RUSH THE 05:10.711 --> 05:12.179 DEFENSE OF RUSSIA HOLDING 05:12.179 --> 05:12.746 PASS 05:12.746 --> 05:13.747 PORTS WHEREVER 05:13.747 --> 05:14.915 THEY ARE AND THAT 05:14.915 --> 05:16.783 IMMEDIATELY 05:16.783 --> 05:17.551 SUMMONS 05:17.551 --> 05:18.385 UP THAT 05:18.652 --> 05:20.521 FEARS WILL BE NEXT AND EASTERN 05:20.521 --> 05:21.221 UKRAINE, YOU HAVE A 05:21.221 --> 05:21.655 TERRIBLE 05:21.655 --> 05:23.090 SHIVER RUN DOWN YOUR SPINE, 05:23.357 --> 05:24.725 ESPECIALLY IT'S EASY FOR US 05:24.725 --> 05:25.025 IF 05:25.025 --> 05:26.126 YOU'RE LIVING IN EASTERN EUROPE, 05:26.126 --> 05:27.394 IF YOU'RE IN 05:27.394 --> 05:29.863 POLAND, 05:30.230 --> 05:30.864 LATVIA, IT 05:30.864 --> 05:32.099 SENDS A 05:32.099 --> 05:32.900 VERY DANGEROUS MESSAGE 05:32.900 --> 05:34.501 GIVEN THE 05:34.501 --> 05:34.835 HISTORY OF 05:34.835 --> 05:36.203 THOSE 05:36.570 --> 05:38.472 COUNTRIES. 05:38.472 --> 05:39.740 I THINK THAT THE RESPONSE OF 05:39.740 --> 05:40.541 THE 05:40.541 --> 05:41.909 EUROPEAN UNION WHICH I WOULD 05:42.176 --> 05:43.110 DESCRIBE AS 05:43.110 --> 05:45.245 FIRM BUT NOT 05:45.245 --> 05:45.646 MACHO, 05:45.646 --> 05:46.914 EUROPEAN UNION, BUT ALSO THE 05:46.914 --> 05:47.781 U.S. TO BE FAIR. 05:47.781 --> 05:48.849 TO SAY, LOOK, 05:48.849 --> 05:49.750 THERE WILL BE 05:49.750 --> 05:50.918 CONSEQUENCES OF THIS. 05:50.918 --> 05:53.253 THERE IS SEVERE ECONOMIC 05:54.288 --> 05:54.721 CONSEQUENCES. 05:54.721 --> 05:56.423 AND THE PARALLEL 05:56.423 --> 05:57.357 RESTORATION OF 05:57.624 --> 05:59.126 OFFENSE PURPOSE TO NATO I 05:59.126 --> 05:59.459 THINK 05:59.459 --> 06:01.228 IS AN IMPORTANT 06:01.228 --> 06:01.795 RESPONSE. 06:01.795 --> 06:03.230 I THINK FIRM IS NOT A 06:03.230 --> 06:03.797 MACHO 06:03.797 --> 06:04.164 RESPONSE. 06:04.164 --> 06:05.432 I DON'T THINK IT WILL ACHIEVE 06:05.432 --> 06:05.799 ANYTHING. 06:05.799 --> 06:06.833 >> DID YOU EVER 06:06.833 --> 06:07.234 ENCOUNTER 06:07.234 --> 06:08.402 PRESIDENT PUTIN PERSONALLY AS 06:08.402 --> 06:08.902 FOREIGN SECRETARY? 06:08.902 --> 06:10.404 >> YEAH, I DID THE LAST TIME I 06:10.671 --> 06:11.905 SAW HIM WAS AT 06:11.905 --> 06:12.806 THE 06:12.806 --> 06:13.440 ANNIVERSARY 06:13.440 --> 06:14.608 OF OUR SECOND WORLD WAR 06:15.709 --> 06:16.109 ANNIVERSARY. 06:16.109 --> 06:17.644 AND WHAT YOU HAVE OFFENSE OF 06:17.911 --> 06:19.780 THERE IS SOMEONE DEEPLY 06:19.780 --> 06:20.180 STEEPED 06:20.180 --> 06:21.348 IN RUSSIAN 06:21.348 --> 06:22.950 AND PREVIOUSLY SOVIET 06:22.950 --> 06:23.617 HISTORY. 06:23.617 --> 06:24.351 SOMEONE 06:24.351 --> 06:25.919 WITH AN 06:25.919 --> 06:27.087 IMMENSE 06:27.087 --> 06:27.521 SENSE 06:27.521 --> 06:29.890 THAT THE SUPER 06:29.890 --> 06:30.624 POWER 06:30.624 --> 06:31.391 STATUS 06:31.391 --> 06:31.692 OF 06:31.692 --> 06:32.893 RUSSIA 06:32.893 --> 06:33.660 HAS BEEN 06:33.660 --> 06:34.561 WEAKENED OVER 06:34.561 --> 06:35.829 THE LAST 20 YEARS AND 06:35.829 --> 06:36.697 SOMEONE 06:36.697 --> 06:37.698 THAT IS DETERMINED TO SEEK WHAT 06:37.698 --> 06:38.799 IS GREATNESS. 06:38.799 --> 06:40.367 THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN 06:40.367 --> 06:41.034 IS 06:41.034 --> 06:41.969 NOT JUST 06:41.969 --> 06:43.237 MEETING PRESIDENT 06:43.237 --> 06:43.604 PUTIN 06:43.604 --> 06:44.605 BUT ORDINARY 06:44.605 --> 06:45.873 RUSSIANS. 06:45.873 --> 06:46.940 WHAT THEY'RE CONSIDERED ABOUT 06:46.940 --> 06:47.341 IS 06:47.341 --> 06:48.609 CORRUPTION IN THE COMMUNITY. 06:48.609 --> 06:49.810 THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE 06:49.810 --> 06:51.645 NARROW BASE OF THE COMMUNITY. 06:51.645 --> 06:52.012 PROSPECTS. 06:52.012 --> 06:52.746 AND THAT'S ACTUALLY THE GREAT 06:52.746 --> 06:53.647 HOPE FOR RUSSIA. 06:53.647 --> 06:54.982 BECAUSE THE NEXT 06:54.982 --> 06:55.449 GENERATION, 06:55.449 --> 06:56.717 CERTAINLY THOSE WHO HAVE GROWN 06:56.717 --> 06:57.818 UP AFTER THE SOVIET UNION, THEY 06:57.818 --> 06:59.186 ACTUALLY WANT TO BE PART OF THE 06:59.453 --> 07:00.554 GLOBAL COMMUNITY, NOT ISOLATED 07:00.554 --> 07:00.888 FROM IT. 07:00.888 --> 07:01.588 >> LET'S TALK ABOUT YOU. 07:01.588 --> 07:03.123 YOU WENT FROM -- YOU'VE BEEN IN 07:03.390 --> 07:04.424 NEW YORK ROUGHLY SIX OR SEVEN 07:04.424 --> 07:04.858 MONTHS NOW. 07:04.858 --> 07:05.192 >> YES. 07:05.192 --> 07:06.527 >> DESCRIBE THE TRANSITION 07:06.527 --> 07:06.827 -- 07:06.827 --> 07:07.928 >> I'M IN NEW YORK 07:07.928 --> 07:08.228 NOW. 07:08.228 --> 07:08.662 [ LAUGHING ] 07:08.662 --> 07:09.830 >> I STILL HAVE AN ACCENT. 07:09.830 --> 07:10.430 >> THAT'S TRUE. 07:10.430 --> 07:12.299 NOT FROM THE BRONX, I DON'T 07:12.299 --> 07:12.599 THINK. 07:12.599 --> 07:13.033 [ LAUGHING ] 07:13.033 --> 07:13.433 >> NO, NO. 07:13.433 --> 07:14.735 >> DESCRIBE THE TRANSITION FROM 07:14.735 --> 07:16.103 BEING ONE OF THE MOST 07:16.103 --> 07:17.137 BEST KNOWN 07:17.137 --> 07:18.205 PEOPLE IN THE 07:19.139 --> 07:20.073 UK TO 07:20.073 --> 07:20.474 RELATIVE 07:20.474 --> 07:21.942 ANONYMITY IN 07:21.942 --> 07:22.609 NEW YORK. 07:22.609 --> 07:23.810 WHAT'S THAT BEEN LIKE? 07:23.810 --> 07:25.179 >> I DON'T THINK 07:25.179 --> 07:26.680 YOU HAVE TO ADD 07:26.680 --> 07:27.047 RELATIVE. 07:27.047 --> 07:28.482 I THINK ANONYMITY -- LOOK, I'VE 07:28.482 --> 07:29.750 MADE A CHANGE FROM MY COUNTRY 07:30.017 --> 07:31.585 AND A CHANGE FROM 07:31.585 --> 07:32.219 MY 07:32.219 --> 07:32.819 PROFESSION. 07:32.819 --> 07:33.987 AND THAT'S BECAUSE 07:33.987 --> 07:34.621 I THINK 07:34.621 --> 07:35.789 THERE'S A BIG NEW CHALLENGE THAT 07:35.789 --> 07:37.024 FACES ALL OF US WHO WOULD 07:37.024 --> 07:38.458 CONSIDER OURSELVES TO BE 07:38.458 --> 07:38.959 INTERNATIONALIST. 07:38.959 --> 07:40.260 WE LIVE AT A TIME WHEN IN THE 07:40.527 --> 07:41.828 WEST THAT'S NOT THE MOST POPULAR 07:41.828 --> 07:42.162 CALLING. 07:42.162 --> 07:43.297 PEOPLE WANT TO 07:43.297 --> 07:44.598 FOCUS ON 07:44.598 --> 07:45.098 NATION 07:45.365 --> 07:46.533 BUILDING A HOME, TO COIN A 07:46.533 --> 07:46.867 PHRASE. 07:46.867 --> 07:47.901 THE FOCUS IS 07:47.901 --> 07:49.036 ON THE LOCAL. 07:49.036 --> 07:50.304 MY BELIEF IS THAT WE LIVE 07:50.304 --> 07:51.104 IN A 07:51.371 --> 07:52.306 WORLD THAT'S EVER MORE 07:52.306 --> 07:53.674 CONNECTED, AND ACTUALLY WE CAN'T 07:53.674 --> 07:54.808 CUT OURSELVES OFF FROM THE 07:54.808 --> 07:55.342 OUTSIDE WORLD. 07:55.342 --> 07:56.877 AND FROM ME THE CHANCE TO APPLY 07:56.877 --> 07:58.178 MY VALUES TO PEOPLE WHO 07:58.178 --> 07:58.946 ARE AT 07:59.213 --> 08:00.781 THE TOUGHEST END OF 08:00.781 --> 08:01.114 GLOBAL 08:01.114 --> 08:02.749 CHALLENGES WHO ARE THE 08:02.749 --> 08:03.150 VICTIMS 08:03.150 --> 08:04.151 OF 08:04.151 --> 08:05.385 GOVERNMENT, NOT THE 08:05.652 --> 08:06.587 BENEFICIARY OF GOVERNMENT, IT'S 08:06.587 --> 08:07.754 A BIG NEW CHALLENGE. 08:07.754 --> 08:08.989 A BIG NEW CHALLENGE OF THE 08:08.989 --> 08:10.190 FAMILY THAT'S COME OVER WITH ME. 08:10.190 --> 08:11.425 BUT IT'S A BIG NEW PROFESSIONAL 08:11.425 --> 08:11.925 CHALLENGE FOR ME. 08:11.925 --> 08:13.360 AND IN A WAY, I'M LOOKING AT 08:13.360 --> 08:14.928 THINGS FROM THE OTHER END OF THE 08:14.928 --> 08:15.362 TELESCOPE. 08:15.362 --> 08:16.530 I WAS TRYING TO USE GOVERNMENT 08:16.530 --> 08:17.497 TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. 08:17.497 --> 08:18.699 NOW I'M LOOKING AT 08:18.699 --> 08:19.199 WHAT HAPPENS 08:19.199 --> 08:19.933 WHEN GOVERNMENT DISSOLVES OR 08:19.933 --> 08:21.568 WHEN GOVERNMENT IS THE SOURCE OF 08:21.568 --> 08:22.736 PROBLEMS AND TRYING TO, AS I 08:23.070 --> 08:24.371 SAY, INTRODUCE A BIT 08:24.371 --> 08:25.005 OF 08:25.005 --> 08:25.873 DIGNITY 08:25.873 --> 08:27.307 AND HUMANITY WHICH SOMETIMES 08:27.307 --> 08:28.342 POLITICIANS FORGET. 08:28.342 --> 08:29.543 >> YOU HAD A PERSONAL CONNECTION 08:29.543 --> 08:30.777 TO THE UNITED STATES OVER THE 08:30.777 --> 08:31.211 YEARS. 08:31.211 --> 08:32.212 TELL ME ABOUT WHAT THOSE 08:32.212 --> 08:32.779 CONNECTIONS HAVE BEEN. 08:32.779 --> 08:33.914 >> I WAS LK EE ENOUGH 08:33.914 --> 08:34.915 TO -- 08:34.915 --> 08:36.149 LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE A 08:36.149 --> 08:36.583 JUNIOR HIGH 08:36.583 --> 08:38.452 SCHOOL STUDENT IN BOSTON IN THE 08:38.719 --> 08:39.453 LATE 1970s. 08:39.453 --> 08:40.654 MY WIFE WAS BORN 08:40.654 --> 08:41.655 IN THE UK BUT 08:41.655 --> 08:43.090 GREW UP IN THE U.S. AND 08:43.090 --> 08:43.490 ACTUALLY 08:43.490 --> 08:44.558 CAME TO THE UNIVERSITY IN 08:44.558 --> 08:45.592 CHICAGO AT 08:45.592 --> 08:46.260 NORTHWESTERN. 08:46.260 --> 08:47.261 SO THIS CITY WILL ALWAYS BE 08:47.261 --> 08:48.629 IMPORTANT FOR OUR 08:48.629 --> 08:49.062 FAMILY. 08:49.062 --> 08:50.397 >> AND YOUR TWO CHILDREN WERE 08:50.397 --> 08:51.732 ADOPTED FROM THE UNITED STATES, 08:51.999 --> 08:52.666 AS I UNDERSTAND IT. 08:52.666 --> 08:55.569 >> THAT'S 08:55.569 --> 08:55.903 RIGHT. 08:55.903 --> 08:57.938 >> WELL, YOU 08:57.938 --> 08:58.705 WERE STARTING 08:58.705 --> 08:59.106 OF 08:59.106 --> 09:00.073 THE 09:00.073 --> 09:01.208 PARTY, BRITISH FOREIGN 09:01.208 --> 09:02.643 SECRETARY AT THE AGE OF 09:02.643 --> 09:03.210 43. 09:03.210 --> 09:04.344 IN 2010 YOU LOST THE 09:04.344 --> 09:05.279 PARTY 09:05.279 --> 09:06.413 LEADERSHIP 09:06.413 --> 09:07.548 CONTEST TO YOUR 09:07.548 --> 09:08.815 BROTHER, YOUR YOUNGER BROTHER. 09:08.815 --> 09:10.150 THAT RIVALRY WAS -- BECAME 09:10.150 --> 09:11.518 A 09:11.785 --> 09:13.487 LONGRUNING SOAP OPERA, 09:13.754 --> 09:15.155 COMPARISONS TO CANE AND 09:15.155 --> 09:16.890 ABEL AND 09:16.890 --> 09:17.291 SHAKESPEARE. 09:17.291 --> 09:18.525 HOW DID YOU SEE IT? 09:18.525 --> 09:20.260 >> I WOULDN'T COMPARE US TO 09:20.260 --> 09:20.827 CANE 09:20.827 --> 09:21.662 OR 09:21.662 --> 09:22.029 ABEL. 09:22.029 --> 09:22.963 I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT 09:22.963 --> 09:23.797 WAY OF SEEING IT. 09:23.797 --> 09:25.999 IN LIFE, SOME OF THE MOST 09:25.999 --> 09:29.169 UNEXPECTED THINGS HAPPEN 09:29.169 --> 09:29.770 AND 09:30.037 --> 09:32.673 CERTAINLY NEEDED WHAT TO 09:32.673 --> 09:33.040 TRANSPIRE. 09:33.040 --> 09:34.208 WE MAINTAINED GOOD PERSONAL 09:34.208 --> 09:36.977 RELATIONS AND MAINTAINED A GOOD 09:37.244 --> 09:38.412 DEGREE OF CIVIL TEE 09:38.412 --> 09:39.413 ABOUT THESE 09:39.413 --> 09:40.714 THINGS -- CIVILITY ABOUT THESE 09:40.714 --> 09:41.048 THINGS. 09:41.048 --> 09:42.182 >> WE'RE SEEING VIDEO OF YOU AND 09:42.182 --> 09:42.816 YOUR BROTHER. 09:42.816 --> 09:44.418 >> THANK A 09:44.418 --> 09:44.718 LOT. 09:44.718 --> 09:45.152 [ LAUGHING ] 09:45.152 --> 09:46.453 >> WHEN THE CONTEXT TOOK PLACE. 09:46.453 --> 09:49.823 WHEN IT FLASHES BACK TO ME, THEY 09:49.823 --> 09:50.591 CAN SEE I'M 09:50.591 --> 09:51.425 LOOKING 09:51.425 --> 09:52.559 AT THE 09:52.559 --> 09:52.993 SCREEN. 09:52.993 --> 09:54.094 LOOK, THE 09:54.094 --> 09:55.062 IMPORTANT THING IS 09:55.062 --> 09:56.029 THAT YOU GIVE THEM YOUR BEST. 09:56.029 --> 09:57.197 YOU TRY TO 09:57.197 --> 09:57.598 WIN. 09:57.598 --> 09:58.498 BUT YOU ALWAYS KNOW THAT 09:58.498 --> 09:59.633 WHENEVER YOU DO ANYTHING, YOU 09:59.633 --> 10:00.500 MIGHT END UP LOSING. 10:00.500 --> 10:01.768 AND IF LOSING IS THE END OF 10:01.768 --> 10:02.569 THE 10:02.569 --> 10:03.937 WORLD, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T START 10:03.937 --> 10:04.838 DOWN THAT TRACK. 10:04.838 --> 10:06.173 YES, IT'S TOUGH. 10:06.173 --> 10:07.908 YES, YOU'VE GOT TO 10:07.908 --> 10:08.876 REASSESS. 10:08.876 --> 10:10.043 YES, THERE'S ALL SORTS OF 10:10.310 --> 10:11.612 EXPECTATIONS THAT GO WITH THESE 10:11.612 --> 10:11.945 THINGS. 10:11.945 --> 10:13.213 BUT IN THE END, YOU'VE 10:13.213 --> 10:14.014 GOT TO 10:14.014 --> 10:15.415 HOLD ON TO YOUR OWN 10:15.415 --> 10:15.849 INTEGRITY 10:15.849 --> 10:16.450 AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT. 10:16.450 --> 10:17.651 >> YOU'VE BEEN QUOTED AS 10:17.651 --> 10:18.218 SAYING 10:18.218 --> 10:19.253 ESSENTIALLY THAT YOU KIND OF HAD 10:19.253 --> 10:20.420 NO CHOICE BUT TO LEAVE 10:20.420 --> 10:21.355 THE UK. 10:21.355 --> 10:22.823 >> I THINK THAT IS 10:22.823 --> 10:23.257 RIGHT. 10:23.257 --> 10:23.724 >> UH-HUH. 10:23.724 --> 10:24.591 >> I THINK THAT IS RIGHT. 10:24.591 --> 10:25.826 >> AN WHY IS 10:25.826 --> 10:26.126 THAT? 10:26.126 --> 10:27.327 >> BECAUSE ANY TIME I SAID 10:27.327 --> 10:28.629 ANYTHING, IT BECAME 10:28.629 --> 10:29.463 PART OF A 10:29.463 --> 10:30.931 GREAT BIG SOAP OPERA. 10:30.931 --> 10:32.366 EVEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 10:32.366 --> 10:32.699 CANE 10:32.699 --> 10:33.901 AND ABEL. 10:33.901 --> 10:34.801 IF YOU'RE A 10:34.801 --> 10:35.369 POLITICIAN THAT HAS 10:35.369 --> 10:36.336 STRONG VIEWS, YOU HAVE TO BE 10:36.336 --> 10:37.604 ABLE TO EXPRESS THEM. 10:37.604 --> 10:39.173 BUT IF IN THE END EVERYTHING YOU 10:39.173 --> 10:40.140 EXPRESS IS 10:40.140 --> 10:42.075 DIAGNOSED 10:42.075 --> 10:42.509 FOR WHETHER 10:42.509 --> 10:43.744 OR NOT IT IS A REBUKE, A 10:43.744 --> 10:45.078 STANDING REBUKE TO THE WAY THE 10:45.345 --> 10:46.480 PARTY IS BEING 10:46.480 --> 10:46.780 LED. 10:46.780 --> 10:47.948 >> OR TO YOUR BROTHER 10:47.948 --> 10:48.348 PERSONALLY. 10:48.348 --> 10:48.682 >> YEAH. 10:48.682 --> 10:49.483 THEN THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE. 10:49.483 --> 10:50.851 YOU'RE NOT CONTRIBUTING 10:50.851 --> 10:51.818 ANYTHING, EITHER TO THE ADVANCE 10:51.818 --> 10:53.687 OF WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN OR TO THE 10:53.687 --> 10:54.588 POLITICAL CORES THAT 10:54.588 --> 10:54.988 YOU'RE 10:54.988 --> 10:55.756 ASSOCIATED WITH. 10:55.756 --> 10:57.658 AND IN THAT 10:57.658 --> 10:59.626 SENSE, I FELT IT WAS 10:59.626 --> 11:00.794 IMPOSSIBLE TO CARRY ON AS 11:00.794 --> 11:01.361 I WAS. 11:01.361 --> 11:02.563 I WASN'T BEING -- I 11:02.563 --> 11:03.297 WASN'T ABLE 11:03.297 --> 11:04.331 TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE OF THINGS 11:04.331 --> 11:05.566 THAT MATTERED TO 11:05.566 --> 11:06.200 ME. 11:06.200 --> 11:07.801 AND THROUGH THE IRC, I HAVE THE 11:08.068 --> 11:09.570 OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO STAND UP 11:09.570 --> 11:10.838 FOR SOME IMPORTANT VALUES AT 11:10.838 --> 11:11.271 A 11:11.271 --> 11:12.406 VERY IMPORTANT TIME. 11:12.406 --> 11:13.540 >> AND BRINGING A 11:13.540 --> 11:14.641 PORTFOLIO OF 11:14.641 --> 11:15.976 EXPERTISE THAT LENGTHS ITSELF TO 11:15.976 --> 11:18.712 THE MISSION -- LENGTHS 11:18.712 --> 11:19.646 ITSELF 11:19.913 --> 11:21.381 LENDS ITSELF TO THE MISSION OF 11:21.381 --> 11:21.949 THE PROGRAM. 11:21.949 --> 11:23.250 >> I CAN'T STOP 11:23.250 --> 11:24.251 PLOTTING MY 11:24.251 --> 11:24.551 EXIT. 11:24.551 --> 11:26.153 BUT I'M LEARNING A LOT IN THIS 11:26.153 --> 11:26.420 JOB. 11:26.420 --> 11:27.955 I'M ENERGIZED BY 11:27.955 --> 11:28.322 IT. 11:28.322 --> 11:29.289 IT'S WORTH 11:29.289 --> 11:29.990 WHILE. 11:29.990 --> 11:31.158 THERE WERE 45 MILLION PEOPLE 11:31.158 --> 11:32.659 LAST YEAR DISPLACED FROM 11:32.659 --> 11:33.260 THEIR 11:33.760 --> 11:34.494 HOMES. 11:34.494 --> 11:36.096 27 MILLION INSIDE THEIR OWN 11:36.096 --> 11:36.763 COUNTRY. 11:36.763 --> 11:37.698 16 MILLION INTO NEIGHBORING 11:37.698 --> 11:38.065 COUNTRIES. 11:38.065 --> 11:39.266 IN SYRIA, 9 MILLION 11:39.266 --> 11:40.701 PEOPLE. 11:40.701 --> 11:41.735 6 MILLION 11:41.735 --> 11:42.202 AFGHANS STILL 11:42.202 --> 11:43.103 DISPLACED FROM HOMES. 11:43.103 --> 11:44.838 AROUND THE WORLD, THE 11:45.105 --> 11:46.440 CONSEQUENCES OF 11:46.440 --> 11:47.474 MISGOVERNMENT OR 11:47.474 --> 11:48.308 UNDERGOVERNMENT OR PREJUDICE ARE 11:48.308 --> 11:48.609 RIFE. 11:48.609 --> 11:49.977 AND IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE HUMAN 11:50.344 --> 11:51.678 CONDITION, YOU'VE GOT TO CARE 11:51.678 --> 11:52.913 ABOUT 11:52.913 --> 11:53.680 THE MOST VULNERABLE. 11:53.680 --> 11:54.848 AND AT A TIME WHEN 11:54.848 --> 11:55.883 HUMANITY 11:56.149 --> 11:56.950 DESPERATELY NEEDS TO BE 11:56.950 --> 11:58.418 INVOLVED, I THINK THIS IS AN 11:58.418 --> 11:59.753 IMPORTANT CALL THAT I CAN THROW 11:59.753 --> 12:02.422 MYSELF INTO WITH A REAL SENSE OF 12:02.422 --> 12:04.157 COMMITMENT AND A BELIEF THAT THE 12:04.157 --> 12:04.358 BEST 12:04.358 --> 12:05.926 VALUES OF OUR SOCIETIES ARE 12:05.926 --> 12:06.827 TO BE USED FOR 12:06.827 --> 12:07.761 THE COMMON 12:07.761 --> 12:08.295 GOOD. 12:08.295 --> 12:09.563 >> YOU ARE SAID TO BE VERY 12:09.563 --> 12:09.897 CLOSE 12:09.897 --> 12:10.797 TO THE CLINTONS. 12:10.797 --> 12:12.099 TODAY IT WAS REPORTED IN THE 12:12.366 --> 12:13.500 DAILY 12:13.500 --> 12:14.535 TELEGRAPH THAT YOU 12:14.535 --> 12:15.469 HELPED 12:15.736 --> 12:18.038 HILLARY CLINTON -- YOU 12:18.038 --> 12:18.639 HELPED 12:18.906 --> 12:19.940 PERSUADE HER TO 12:19.940 --> 12:23.343 GIVE TO THE 12:23.343 --> 12:23.877 TONE 12:23.877 --> 12:24.478 BURKE CHARITY. 12:24.478 --> 12:26.380 >> NO, ACTUALLY NO MONEY WENT AT 12:26.380 --> 12:26.647 ALL. 12:26.647 --> 12:27.814 >> THAT'S NOT 12:27.814 --> 12:28.482 TRUE? 12:28.482 --> 12:29.516 >> THAT'S A 12:29.516 --> 12:29.883 PIECE. 12:29.883 --> 12:30.918 THE 12:30.918 --> 12:33.687 PIECE SAYS NO 12:33.687 --> 12:34.688 U.S. 12:34.688 --> 12:34.821 MONEY 12:35.088 --> 12:36.290 WENT TO 12:36.290 --> 12:37.057 SUDAN. 12:37.057 --> 12:38.025 I WENT THERE. 12:38.025 --> 12:40.360 I'VE DONE CHARITABLE WORK THERE. 12:40.360 --> 12:41.361 THE U.S. HAS 12:41.361 --> 12:42.296 GOT AN 12:42.296 --> 12:43.130 OUTSTANDING 12:43.130 --> 12:44.364 PRESENCE THERE 12:44.364 --> 12:45.199 AND HELPS FOSTER 12:45.199 --> 12:46.033 THE PEACE AGREEMENT. 12:46.033 --> 12:47.401 >> LET'S TALK ABOUT HILLARY 12:47.401 --> 12:47.734 CLINTON. 12:47.734 --> 12:49.570 BECAUSE YOUR 12:49.570 --> 12:50.604 ASSESSMENT 12:50.604 --> 12:51.438 OF HER 12:51.438 --> 12:52.639 AS A PRESIDENTIAL 12:52.639 --> 12:53.373 CONTENDER. 12:53.373 --> 12:54.374 SHE SAYS SHE ADMIRES YOU. 12:54.374 --> 12:55.742 >> I THINK THERE'S NO SECRET 12:55.742 --> 12:56.343 I 12:56.343 --> 12:58.812 SAID BEFORE THAT SHE'S BY FAR 12:59.079 --> 13:00.447 EXTRAORDINARILY WELL-QUALIFIED 13:00.714 --> 13:01.415 CANDIDATE BECAUSE EVERYTHING 13:01.415 --> 13:03.584 SHE'S 13:03.584 --> 13:04.184 DONE HAS 13:04.184 --> 13:05.018 EMBODIED STRONG 13:05.018 --> 13:06.453 PRINCIPLE AND DETERMINATION TO 13:06.453 --> 13:06.787 LISTEN. 13:06.787 --> 13:08.722 THOSE ARE GOOD 13:08.722 --> 13:09.623 QUALITIES. 13:09.623 --> 13:11.592 BUT I'M NOT AN AMERICAN 13:11.592 --> 13:11.959 CITIZEN. 13:11.959 --> 13:13.160 AND THE LAST THING 13:13.160 --> 13:13.660 THAT 13:13.660 --> 13:14.962 AMERICANS NEEDLESS THAN TWO 13:14.962 --> 13:16.063 YEARS AWAY FROM 13:16.063 --> 13:16.997 A 13:16.997 --> 13:17.531 PRESIDENTIAL 13:17.531 --> 13:18.498 ELECTION IS SOMEONE TELLING THEM 13:18.498 --> 13:19.900 WHO THE PRESIDENT SHOULD BE. 13:19.900 --> 13:21.034 >> HAVING SPENT SIX MONTHS HERE 13:21.034 --> 13:22.369 IN EARLIER PERIODS OF YOUR LIFE 13:22.369 --> 13:24.171 IN THIS COUNTRY, HOW 13:24.171 --> 13:24.304 DO 13:24.304 --> 13:25.138 YOU 13:25.138 --> 13:27.474 ASSESS THE DIFFERENT BETWEEN THE 13:27.474 --> 13:28.976 ROUGH AND TUMBLE WORLD OF 13:29.243 --> 13:30.811 POLITICS IN BRITAIN AS OPPOSED 13:31.078 --> 13:32.012 TO WHAT THE POLITICAL SCENE IS 13:32.012 --> 13:32.713 IN THE UNITED STATES? 13:32.713 --> 13:33.947 >> 13:33.947 --> 13:34.348 WELL, 13:34.348 --> 13:35.883 YOU WOULD LAUGH AT 13:35.883 --> 13:36.383 HOW 13:36.383 --> 13:38.785 LITTLE MONEY WE SPEND 13:38.785 --> 13:39.520 ON OUR 13:39.953 --> 13:40.320 POLITICS. 13:40.320 --> 13:41.421 YOU MIGHT CRY 13:42.222 --> 13:42.589 ACTUALLY. 13:42.589 --> 13:44.458 WHEN I TELL YOU THAT I WAS 13:44.725 --> 13:46.193 ALLOWED TO SPEND IN MY 13:46.193 --> 13:46.994 DISTRICT, 13:46.994 --> 13:48.161 MY CONSTITUENCY, 13:48.161 --> 13:49.463 I WAS 13:49.463 --> 13:49.930 ALLOWED 13:50.197 --> 13:51.365 TO SPEND 12,000 13:51.365 --> 13:52.232 POUNDS, THAT'S 13:52.232 --> 13:53.600 $20,000, LESS THAN 13:53.600 --> 13:54.001 $20,000 IN 13:54.001 --> 13:55.369 THE THREE -- IN THE 13:55.369 --> 13:56.069 YEAR OF 13:56.069 --> 13:56.870 MY 13:56.870 --> 13:58.272 ELECTION CAMPAIGN, YOU 13:58.272 --> 13:59.106 WOULD SAY 13:59.106 --> 14:00.107 THAT THIS IS A 14:00.107 --> 14:00.941 NONSENSE. 14:00.941 --> 14:01.975 NOW, THERE ARE 14:01.975 --> 14:03.076 NATIONAL 14:03.076 --> 14:05.212 SPENDING 14:05.212 --> 14:05.846 CAPS AS 14:05.846 --> 14:06.480 WELL. 14:06.480 --> 14:08.482 BUT 20 MILLION 14:08.482 --> 14:09.616 POUNDS, 14:09.883 --> 14:11.418 $30 MILLION. 14:11.418 --> 14:12.619 SO YOU WOULD 14:12.619 --> 14:13.320 ABSOLUTELY THINK 14:13.587 --> 14:14.655 THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN 14:14.655 --> 14:15.589 GOT 14:16.857 --> 14:17.191 STARTED. 14:17.191 --> 14:18.325 >> HOW IS PRESIDENT OBAMA 14:18.325 --> 14:19.526 PERCEIVED IN BRITAIN. 14:19.526 --> 14:21.061 >> I THINK VERY 14:21.061 --> 14:21.762 POSITIVELY. 14:21.762 --> 14:23.730 I THINK THAT HE 14:23.730 --> 14:24.398 WAS SEEN 14:24.398 --> 14:24.831 AS 14:24.831 --> 14:26.400 SOMEONE WHO REPRESENTED THE 14:26.667 --> 14:27.768 RENEWAL OF AMERICA 14:27.768 --> 14:28.569 REALLY AS 14:28.569 --> 14:30.137 AMERICA'S CAPACITY FOR RENEWAL, 14:30.137 --> 14:31.405 GIVEN THE HISTORY OF RACE IN 14:31.405 --> 14:32.573 THIS 14:32.573 --> 14:33.140 COUNTRY. 14:33.140 --> 14:34.408 GIVEN ALL THAT YOU'VE BEEN 14:35.042 --> 14:35.375 THROUGH. 14:35.375 --> 14:36.243 THE FACT THAT AN 14:36.243 --> 14:37.578 AFRICAN-AMERICAN SHOULD COME TO 14:37.578 --> 14:39.046 LEAD THE COUNTRY WAS 14:39.046 --> 14:39.646 SEEN AS 14:39.646 --> 14:40.747 AN 14:41.014 --> 14:41.949 EXTRAORDINARY TESTAMENT TO THE 14:41.949 --> 14:43.083 STRENGTH OF THIS COUNTRY. 14:43.083 --> 14:44.117 AND 14:44.117 --> 14:45.052 I THINK THAT HE BROUGHT 14:45.052 --> 14:45.485 A 14:45.485 --> 14:46.720 SENSE OF PURPOSE AND CLARITY 14:46.720 --> 14:48.222 THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND THE 14:48.222 --> 14:49.289 WORLD RECOGNIZED. 14:49.289 --> 14:50.757 >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MONARCHY 14:50.757 --> 14:51.758 IN BRITAIN 14:51.758 --> 14:52.359 BRIEFLY. 14:52.359 --> 14:53.694 NOT THAT LONG AGO THE MONARCHY 14:53.694 --> 14:54.828 SEEMED TO BE PRETTY 14:54.828 --> 14:55.662 MUCH ON THE 14:55.662 --> 14:56.029 SKIDS. 14:56.029 --> 14:56.964 IT 14:56.964 --> 14:57.931 SEEMS TO HAVE A RE 14:57.931 --> 14:58.966 SURE GENT. 14:58.966 --> 15:00.300 HOW WOULD -- 15:00.300 --> 15:00.701 RESURGENCE. 15:00.701 --> 15:01.802 HOW WOULD YOU ASSESS 15:01.802 --> 15:02.836 THE 15:02.836 --> 15:03.203 MONARCHY? 15:03.203 --> 15:04.671 >> I WOULD SAY ARE YOU SURPRISED 15:04.671 --> 15:05.572 BY THE QUESTIONS. 15:05.572 --> 15:06.507 I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER BEEN 15:06.507 --> 15:08.175 ASKED ABOUT THE MONARCHY, SO 15:08.175 --> 15:08.909 WE 15:09.176 --> 15:10.277 REALLY 15:10.277 --> 15:14.114 ARE IN NEUTER 15:14.114 --> 15:15.849 -- NEW 15:15.849 --> 15:16.517 TERRAIN ABOUT THAT. 15:16.517 --> 15:18.051 WE'RE A DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY. 15:18.051 --> 15:18.919 WE HAVE 15:18.919 --> 15:20.153 A CONSTITUTIONAL 15:21.021 --> 15:21.488 MONARCHY. 15:21.488 --> 15:23.090 SO THE QUEEN PLAYS NO ROLE IN 15:23.090 --> 15:23.457 POLITICS. 15:23.457 --> 15:24.825 SHE'S AN EXTRAORDINARY 15:24.825 --> 15:25.559 LADY 15:25.559 --> 15:25.993 WHO 15:25.993 --> 15:27.661 IS VERY WIDELY ADMIRED. 15:27.661 --> 15:28.495 SHE'S BEEN THROUGH -- 15:28.495 --> 15:29.596 >> HAVE YOU SPENT TIME WITH HER? 15:29.596 --> 15:31.265 >> I 15:31.265 --> 15:31.565 HAVE. 15:31.565 --> 15:32.866 ONE OF THE THINGS YOU 15:32.866 --> 15:33.467 DO 15:33.467 --> 15:34.468 IF YOUR 15:34.468 --> 15:36.003 THE FOREIGN SECRETARY EVERY TIME 15:36.003 --> 15:37.171 THE QUEEN QOEZ ABOARD, 15:37.171 --> 15:37.905 YOU HAVE 15:37.905 --> 15:39.673 -- GOES ABOARD, YOU HAVE TO GO 15:39.940 --> 15:40.874 ABOARD WITH HER. 15:40.874 --> 15:42.142 I HAD THE 15:42.142 --> 15:42.843 PRIVILEGE AND 15:42.843 --> 15:44.077 CHALLENGE OF HAVING TO BRIE 15:44.077 --> 15:44.511 F HER 15:44.511 --> 15:45.812 AND FINDING OUT SHE WAS 15:46.079 --> 15:47.447 EXTREMELY WELL BRIEFED AND KNEW 15:47.447 --> 15:48.982 ALL OF THE -- IF I TALKED TO HER 15:48.982 --> 15:50.484 ABOUT THE PRESIDENT OF ONE 15:50.484 --> 15:51.652 COUNTRY, SHE WOULD HAVE KNOWN 15:51.652 --> 15:53.253 THE PREDECESSOR AND THE 15:53.520 --> 15:54.988 PREDECESSOR AND THE PREDECESSOR 15:55.255 --> 15:57.224 AND THE 15:57.224 --> 15:58.158 PRED CESS 15:58.158 --> 15:58.692 SORE. 15:58.692 --> 15:59.860 SHE'S -- 15:59.860 --> 16:00.527 PREDECESSOR. 16:00.527 --> 16:01.728 SHE'S BEEN A QUEEN FOR A 16:01.728 --> 16:02.596 LONG 16:02.596 --> 16:02.896 TIME. 16:02.896 --> 16:05.332 I THINK SHE'S BROUGHT 16:05.599 --> 16:07.835 EXTRAORDINARY 16:07.835 --> 16:09.536 EXTRAORDINARY REVERENCE FOR HER 16:09.536 --> 16:09.903 POSITION. 16:09.903 --> 16:11.038 I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WIDELY 16:11.038 --> 16:12.472 RECOGNIZED AND NOW SUCCESSIVE 16:12.739 --> 16:14.041 FLEE GENERATIONS AFTER HER -- 16:14.041 --> 16:15.309 THREE GENERATIONS AFTER 16:15.309 --> 16:15.843 HER. 16:15.843 --> 16:18.178 I THINK THE AMERICANS WILL BE 16:18.445 --> 16:20.848 ENJOYING THE BRITISH 16:20.848 --> 16:23.016 MONARCHY 16:23.283 --> 16:24.251 FOR YEARS TO COME. 16:24.251 --> 16:24.484 . 16:24.484 --> 16:25.352 >> THANK YOU FOR COMING. 16:25.352 --> 16:25.786 >> THANK YOU. 16:25.786 --> 16:29.786 >> AND CHICAG