WEBVTT 00:07.574 --> 00:08.275 >> 00:08.275 --> 00:08.876 YOU KNOW THE NAMES JOHN 00:08.876 --> 00:10.210 CANDY, GUILD ARE 00:10.210 --> 00:11.311 RADNER, BILL 00:11.311 --> 00:11.979 MURRAY 00:11.979 --> 00:13.013 AN 00:13.013 --> 00:14.448 IMPORTANT FIGURE 00:14.448 --> 00:15.349 MENTORED 00:15.349 --> 00:15.849 THESE. 00:15.849 --> 00:17.317 BERNIE 00:17.317 --> 00:17.618 SAHLINS 00:17.618 --> 00:19.319 MAY NOT BE A 00:19.319 --> 00:20.053 HOUSEHOLD NAME BUT PEOPLE 00:20.053 --> 00:20.621 WHO 00:20.621 --> 00:21.855 KNOW THEATER 00:21.855 --> 00:22.389 AND 00:22.389 --> 00:23.690 COMEDY KNOW HIS 00:23.690 --> 00:24.057 INFLUENCE. 00:24.057 --> 00:26.026 HE DIED SUNDAY AT THE AGE OF 00:26.026 --> 00:26.460 90678 00:26.460 --> 00:28.195 WE'RE JOINED NOW BY 00:28.195 --> 00:29.863 FRIENDS 00:29.863 --> 00:30.898 AND 00:30.898 --> 00:32.599 COLLEAGUES 00:32.599 --> 00:33.600 INCLUDING 00:33.600 --> 00:35.636 SHELDON 00:35.636 --> 00:37.271 PATINKIN, 00:37.271 --> 00:38.672 MARTHA AND 00:38.672 --> 00:39.806 MATT THE DIRECTOR 00:39.806 --> 00:40.574 OF 00:40.574 --> 00:42.042 SECOND CITY 00:42.042 --> 00:42.709 TRAINING 00:42.709 --> 00:43.277 CENTER. 00:43.277 --> 00:44.111 CONDOLENCES TO ALL OF YOU ON THE 00:44.111 --> 00:45.078 LOSS OF 00:45.078 --> 00:45.812 YOUR 00:45.812 --> 00:46.146 FRIEND. 00:46.146 --> 00:46.613 >>THANK YOU. 00:46.613 --> 00:47.781 >>SHELDON, HOW LONG DID YOU 00:47.781 --> 00:48.382 KNOW BERNIE? 00:48.382 --> 00:49.316 >>60 YEARS. 00:49.316 --> 00:50.350 >>60 YEARS. 00:50.350 --> 00:51.418 >>YEAH, WE 00:51.418 --> 00:52.252 HAD A THEATER 00:52.252 --> 00:52.886 THAT 00:52.886 --> 00:53.954 WE BROKE AWAY FROM 00:53.954 --> 00:54.821 THE 00:54.821 --> 00:56.790 UNIVERSITY OF 00:56.790 --> 00:57.558 CHICAGO THEATER 00:57.558 --> 00:58.525 IN 00:58.525 --> 00:59.560 FORM CALLED 00:59.560 --> 01:00.727 PLAYWRIGHTS 01:00.727 --> 01:01.161 THEATER 01:01.161 --> 01:02.095 CLUB IN 01:02.095 --> 01:02.529 1953. 01:02.529 --> 01:03.730 I'M GIVING AWAY MY 01:03.730 --> 01:04.264 AGE. 01:04.264 --> 01:06.767 AND BERNIE WAS ONE OF THE 01:06.767 --> 01:07.134 PRODUCERS. 01:07.134 --> 01:09.002 I WAS THE STAGE 01:09.002 --> 01:09.536 MANAGER, 01:09.536 --> 01:10.604 PRODUCTION MANAGER, 01:10.604 --> 01:11.338 MUSICAL 01:11.338 --> 01:13.841 DIRECTOR, BOX OFFICE 01:13.841 --> 01:15.475 MANAGER, 01:15.475 --> 01:16.510 ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND 01:16.510 --> 01:17.077 ACTOR 01:17.077 --> 01:18.145 ONLY WHEN WE 01:18.145 --> 01:19.413 HAD 01:19.413 --> 01:19.646 TOO 01:19.646 --> 01:20.414 MANY ROLES 01:20.414 --> 01:22.282 FOR THE NUMBER OF THE PEOPLE 01:22.282 --> 01:23.750 IN 01:23.750 --> 01:24.117 ENSEMBLE. 01:24.117 --> 01:26.320 THE FIRST THING I REMEMBER ABOUT 01:26.320 --> 01:27.154 BERNIE, HE HAD 01:27.154 --> 01:27.821 HIS 01:27.821 --> 01:28.355 OWN 01:28.355 --> 01:29.523 BUSINESS. 01:29.523 --> 01:30.257 HE HAD 01:30.257 --> 01:31.758 TAPE RECORDERS. 01:31.758 --> 01:32.626 >>THAT'S WHERE HE GOT 01:32.626 --> 01:33.660 HIS 01:33.660 --> 01:36.396 BUSINESS ACUMEN WITH A TAPE 01:36.396 --> 01:36.897 RECORDER COMPANY. 01:36.897 --> 01:38.498 >>THAT'S 01:38.498 --> 01:39.800 RIGHT. 01:39.800 --> 01:41.168 HE REALLY WANT TO DO 01:41.168 --> 01:41.668 THEATER. 01:41.668 --> 01:43.103 BERNIE WHO WE JUST MET 01:43.103 --> 01:43.470 CAME INTO 01:43.470 --> 01:44.605 THE THEATER 01:44.605 --> 01:45.739 ONE 01:45.739 --> 01:46.473 DAY, THERE WAS 01:46.473 --> 01:47.541 MAYBE THREE OR FOUR O 01:47.541 --> 01:48.976 F US, LATE 01:48.976 --> 01:49.810 SUMMER, HE SAID 01:49.810 --> 01:50.611 COME 01:50.611 --> 01:51.545 ON I'LL 01:51.545 --> 01:53.480 TAKE TO YOU MY FAVORITE 01:53.480 --> 01:54.081 RESTAURANT IN 01:54.081 --> 01:55.782 TOWN SOX WE 01:55.782 --> 01:56.583 WERE -- IN 01:56.583 --> 01:56.817 TOWN 01:56.817 --> 01:57.050 . 01:57.050 --> 01:58.051 SO WE WERE 01:58.051 --> 01:59.553 POOR, HUNGRY AND 01:59.553 --> 02:00.387 YOUNG AND HAD 02:00.387 --> 02:01.421 VISIONS MORE 02:01.421 --> 02:01.722 THAN 02:01.722 --> 02:03.290 SUGAR PLUMS DANCING IN OUR 02:03.290 --> 02:04.258 HEADS 02:04.258 --> 02:04.925 AND HE TOOK 02:04.925 --> 02:09.029 US TO 02:09.029 --> 02:09.963 FLUKIES 02:09.963 --> 02:10.831 HOT 02:10.831 --> 02:11.665 DOG STAND NORTH ON 02:11.665 --> 02:12.566 WESTERN WHICH 02:12.566 --> 02:13.667 REALLY WAS HIS 02:13.667 --> 02:14.434 FAVORITE 02:14.434 --> 02:14.835 RESTAURANT. 02:14.835 --> 02:16.036 >>HE WASN'T KIDDING? 02:16.036 --> 02:16.970 >>HE WAS 02:16.970 --> 02:18.005 NOT KIDDING AT 02:18.005 --> 02:18.505 ALL. 02:18.505 --> 02:20.874 >>WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST MEMORY OF 02:20.874 --> 02:21.175 HIS. 02:21.175 --> 02:21.942 >> 02:21.942 --> 02:23.410 SHELDON INTRODUCE MED 02:23.410 --> 02:24.211 TO 02:24.211 --> 02:24.511 HIM. 02:24.511 --> 02:25.412 I WAS 02:25.412 --> 02:26.747 TAKING IMPROVE CLASSES 02:26.747 --> 02:28.248 FROM SHELDON WITH A GROUP OF 02:28.248 --> 02:29.216 PEOPLE IN 1981 02:29.216 --> 02:30.350 OR SO AND 02:30.350 --> 02:30.684 BERNIE 02:30.684 --> 02:31.919 WAS AROUND AND I WAS INTRODUCED 02:31.919 --> 02:33.153 TO BERNIE. 02:33.153 --> 02:33.787 IN 02:33.787 --> 02:35.556 FACT, DO YOU KNOW THAT I 02:35.556 --> 02:36.990 AUDITIONED FOR ONE OF THOSE 02:36.990 --> 02:38.492 SECOND CITY 02:38.492 --> 02:38.892 COMPANIES? 02:38.892 --> 02:39.259 >>REALLY. 02:39.259 --> 02:40.794 >>I WAS ALL 02:40.794 --> 02:41.061 OF. 02:41.061 --> 02:41.495 [ LAUGHTER ] 02:41.495 --> 02:42.629 -- I WAS AWFUL. 02:42.629 --> 02:43.030 [ LAUGHTER ] 02:43.030 --> 02:44.364 >>I 02:44.364 --> 02:44.831 HAVE 02:44.831 --> 02:45.899 KNOWN BERNIE AND JANE 02:45.899 --> 02:47.334 SINCE THEN AND THEY ARE 02:47.334 --> 02:48.168 VERY, 02:48.168 --> 02:49.469 VERY FREQUENT THEATER 02:49.469 --> 02:50.270 GOERS AND 02:50.270 --> 02:51.605 THEY ARE -- THEY ARE 02:51.605 --> 02:52.306 REALLY BIG 02:52.306 --> 02:53.807 PART OF THE CULTURAL 02:53.807 --> 02:54.374 SCENE. 02:54.374 --> 02:56.009 SO I'VE SEEN HIM THROUGHOUT THE 02:56.009 --> 02:57.144 YEARS AND, HE 02:57.144 --> 02:58.445 ALSO THEN BEGAN 02:58.445 --> 02:59.213 CREATING 02:59.213 --> 03:00.214 PERFORMANCES BASED ON 03:00.214 --> 03:01.381 VERSE DRAMA WHICH GIVES 03:01.381 --> 03:02.115 YOU SOME 03:02.115 --> 03:03.717 IDEA OF THAT GUYS 03:03.717 --> 03:04.384 RANGE. 03:04.384 --> 03:05.285 >>SO MANY 03:05.285 --> 03:06.820 PEOPLE THINK OF 03:06.820 --> 03:08.856 BERNIE 03:08.856 --> 03:10.123 SAHLINS AND THINK 03:10.123 --> 03:10.457 COMEDY, 03:10.457 --> 03:11.325 SECOND 03:11.325 --> 03:12.693 CITY, 03:12.693 --> 03:13.360 IMPROV 03:13.360 --> 03:14.127 ALL THAT 03:14.127 --> 03:14.394 BUT 03:14.394 --> 03:15.495 HE HAD TREMENDOUS RANGE. 03:15.495 --> 03:16.496 HE STUDIED THE 03:16.496 --> 03:17.264 CLASSIC AND 03:17.264 --> 03:19.766 INTERESTED IN ALL KINDS OF 03:19.766 --> 03:20.100 THEATER. 03:20.100 --> 03:21.201 WHAT WAS HIS SIGNIFICANCE TO THE 03:21.201 --> 03:22.035 WORK YOU DO? 03:22.035 --> 03:22.936 >>FIRST 03:22.936 --> 03:24.137 MARTHA I'M SORRY 03:24.137 --> 03:24.638 THAT 03:24.638 --> 03:25.806 WE RUINED YOUR 03:25.806 --> 03:26.340 CAREER. 03:26.340 --> 03:27.674 I APOLOGIZE ON 03:27.674 --> 03:28.509 BEHALF OF SECOND 03:28.509 --> 03:29.977 CITY AND BERNIE. 03:29.977 --> 03:30.644 >>THINK 03:30.644 --> 03:31.812 OF WHAT SHE COULD HAVE 03:31.812 --> 03:33.046 MADE OF 03:33.046 --> 03:33.580 HERSELF. 03:33.580 --> 03:34.815 >>WE HOLD SO MANY PEOPLE 03:34.815 --> 03:35.115 BACK. 03:35.115 --> 03:36.316 >>SHE'S REALLY A GOOD 03:36.316 --> 03:36.783 ACTOR. 03:36.783 --> 03:38.352 >>THAT'S WHAT WE LOOK 03:38.352 --> 03:38.652 FOR. 03:38.652 --> 03:39.820 WE'RE ACTORS FIRST, 03:39.820 --> 03:40.554 COMEDIANS 03:40.554 --> 03:40.888 SECOND. 03:40.888 --> 03:41.355 WE USES TO BE. 03:41.355 --> 03:42.556 I STARTED DIRECTING 03:42.556 --> 03:43.457 FOR SECOND 03:43.457 --> 03:46.293 CITY IN THE EARLY 03:46.293 --> 03:47.294 2000S AND IT 03:47.294 --> 03:48.228 TOOK A FEW 03:48.228 --> 03:49.162 SHOWS FOR 03:49.162 --> 03:50.097 ME TO 03:50.097 --> 03:52.566 DIRECT TO AND PAID ATTENTION AND 03:52.566 --> 03:52.866 KNEW. 03:52.866 --> 03:54.234 HE WAS NOT ACTIVE IN THE THEATER 03:54.234 --> 03:55.235 ON A 03:55.235 --> 03:56.136 DAILY 03:56.136 --> 03:57.104 BASIS 03:57.104 --> 03:58.438 FOR 03:58.438 --> 03:59.573 SOME TIME 03:59.573 --> 03:59.873 THEN. 03:59.873 --> 04:00.874 I REMEMBER WHEN I GOT HIM AT THE 04:00.874 --> 04:02.643 FRONT BAR AND 04:02.643 --> 04:03.076 REINTRODUCED 04:03.076 --> 04:04.211 MYSELF BECAUSE HE 04:04.211 --> 04:05.379 WASN'T UP 04:05.379 --> 04:05.646 TO 04:05.646 --> 04:06.713 DATE ON WHO I 04:06.713 --> 04:07.881 WAS OR WHATEVER. 04:07.881 --> 04:09.149 HE SAID I HAVE HEARD BUT 04:09.149 --> 04:09.950 GIVE ME 04:09.950 --> 04:10.417 A CALL. 04:10.417 --> 04:11.451 HE WROTE DOWN 04:11.451 --> 04:12.452 HIS PHONE 04:12.452 --> 04:12.786 NUMBER 04:12.786 --> 04:14.221 ON PROBABLY A 04:14.221 --> 04:14.821 NAPKIN OF 04:14.821 --> 04:15.889 SOME 04:15.889 --> 04:16.190 KIND. 04:16.190 --> 04:17.324 HE SAID CALL ME. 04:17.324 --> 04:18.058 I CALLED HIM. 04:18.058 --> 04:19.560 IT WAS HIS HOME NUMBER BECAUSE 04:19.560 --> 04:20.827 HE DIDN'T HAVE A CELL PHONE AND 04:20.827 --> 04:22.095 HE WAS AT HOME BEFORE DINNER 04:22.095 --> 04:22.896 AND 04:22.896 --> 04:24.264 HE SAID I WANT TO YOU MEET ME 04:24.264 --> 04:25.165 FOR COFFEE. 04:25.165 --> 04:26.567 MEET ME 04:26.567 --> 04:27.000 AT 04:27.000 --> 04:28.468 THIS TIME AND THIS 04:28.468 --> 04:29.803 PLACE AND BRING A 04:29.803 --> 04:30.137 PENCIL. 04:30.137 --> 04:32.472 THAT WAS THE END OF THE 04:32.472 --> 04:32.906 CONVERSATION. 04:32.906 --> 04:34.274 I WAS CHARMD BY 04:34.274 --> 04:34.608 THAT. 04:34.608 --> 04:36.043 HE WAS DIRECT AND TO THE POINT 04:36.043 --> 04:37.477 AND I COULD TELL HE WANTED TO 04:37.477 --> 04:38.378 TALK ABOUT THINGS. 04:38.378 --> 04:39.313 THAT COFFEE 04:39.313 --> 04:40.614 WAS WHEN I GOT 04:40.614 --> 04:41.248 TO 04:41.248 --> 04:41.748 KNOW HIM. 04:41.748 --> 04:43.784 IT ENDED UP BEING ABOUT A 04:43.784 --> 04:44.685 TWO-HOUR COFFEE. 04:44.685 --> 04:45.586 >>WHAT WERE SOME OF THE 04:45.586 --> 04:45.919 THINGS 04:45.919 --> 04:46.720 HE 04:46.720 --> 04:47.321 TOLD? 04:47.321 --> 04:48.422 >>HE 04:48.422 --> 04:49.790 WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE 04:49.790 --> 04:51.058 YOUNGER GENERATION AND WHETHER 04:51.058 --> 04:52.259 WE WORRIED ABOUT THE SCENE 04:52.259 --> 04:52.759 WORK 04:52.759 --> 04:53.627 AND THE 04:53.627 --> 04:54.862 INTELLECTUAL PART OF IT. 04:54.862 --> 04:58.665 HE WAS AN 04:58.665 --> 04:59.666 -- 04:59.666 --> 05:01.134 INTELLECTUAL GUY. 05:01.134 --> 05:02.302 HE BELIEVED PERHAPS 05:02.302 --> 05:02.736 RIGHTFULLY 05:02.736 --> 05:03.904 SO THAT SECOND CITY'S 05:03.904 --> 05:04.371 AUDIENCE 05:04.371 --> 05:05.372 WAS MORE 05:05.372 --> 05:06.406 DIVERSE, MORE GENERAL, 05:06.406 --> 05:07.674 MORE BROAD, 05:07.674 --> 05:08.575 MORE 05:08.575 --> 05:09.877 SUBURBAN IN A 05:09.877 --> 05:10.143 WAY. 05:10.143 --> 05:11.078 AND PART AFTER THIS FRUSTRATED 05:11.078 --> 05:11.678 HIM. 05:11.678 --> 05:12.880 BUT IT WAS -- PART 05:12.880 --> 05:14.248 OF THAT 05:14.248 --> 05:15.182 FRUSTRATED HIM AND THAT WAS PART 05:15.182 --> 05:16.717 OF THE SUCCESS OF THE 05:16.717 --> 05:17.184 ALUMS THAT 05:17.184 --> 05:18.151 WENT ON TO 05:18.151 --> 05:19.086 FAME AND 05:19.086 --> 05:20.320 FORTUNE THAT 05:20.320 --> 05:21.788 MORE PEOPLE SOUGHT OUT SECOND 05:21.788 --> 05:23.023 CITY AS A PLACE 05:23.023 --> 05:23.824 TO GO TO 05:23.824 --> 05:25.125 FIND 05:25.125 --> 05:25.425 FUNNY. 05:25.425 --> 05:26.527 HE WAS CONCERNED THAT WE WERE 05:26.527 --> 05:27.995 FORGETTING THAT THE 05:27.995 --> 05:28.395 ORIGINS OF 05:28.395 --> 05:29.863 THE THEATER WERE IN 05:29.863 --> 05:30.597 THE HONEST 05:30.597 --> 05:31.899 SCENE WORK 05:31.899 --> 05:32.533 AND 05:32.533 --> 05:33.100 SATIRE. 05:33.100 --> 05:34.601 MY WHOLE ROLE IN THAT TWO 05:34.601 --> 05:34.902 HOURS 05:34.902 --> 05:36.336 OFFICE TO CONVINCE HIM 05:36.336 --> 05:36.870 THAT 05:36.870 --> 05:38.372 WEAPON HADN'T LOST SENSE -- 05:38.372 --> 05:39.039 THAT 05:39.039 --> 05:40.207 WE HADN'T LOST SENSE OF 05:40.207 --> 05:40.707 THAT. 05:40.707 --> 05:41.775 >>LET'S GO BACK TO 05:41.775 --> 05:43.410 THE ORIGINS 05:43.410 --> 05:44.244 OF SECOND 05:44.244 --> 05:44.778 CITY. 05:44.778 --> 05:46.146 BERNIE WAS ON THE SHOW AND 05:46.146 --> 05:46.713 HERE 05:46.713 --> 05:47.881 IS WHAT HE SAID ABOUT 05:47.881 --> 05:48.916 THE EARLY 05:48.916 --> 05:49.216 DAYS. 05:49.216 --> 05:50.717 >>YOU 05:50.717 --> 05:51.084 SEE, WE WERE 05:51.084 --> 05:52.052 OUT OF WORK 05:52.052 --> 05:53.820 AND WE NEED AID 05:53.820 --> 05:54.755 PLACE TO 05:54.755 --> 05:56.156 SIT. 05:56.156 --> 05:56.557 [LAUGHTER] 05:56.557 --> 05:58.592 IN THOSE DAYS YOU BUILT A COFFEE 05:58.592 --> 05:58.892 SHOP. 05:58.892 --> 06:00.394 WE STARTED BUILDING A 06:00.394 --> 06:01.495 COFFEE 06:01.495 --> 06:01.795 SHOP. 06:01.795 --> 06:02.863 ALL THESE 06:02.863 --> 06:03.664 OUT OF 06:03.664 --> 06:05.098 WORK 06:05.098 --> 06:05.766 ACTORS, 06:05.766 --> 06:06.500 PAUL AND MYSELF 06:06.500 --> 06:07.668 WE SAID 06:07.668 --> 06:07.968 LET'S 06:07.968 --> 06:09.403 PUT A LITTLE SHOW ON. 06:09.403 --> 06:10.337 THE FIRST NIGHT 06:10.337 --> 06:11.972 THERE 06:11.972 --> 06:12.873 WERE IN 06:12.873 --> 06:15.042 THE COLD DECEMBER THERE WERE 06:15.042 --> 06:15.542 500 06:15.542 --> 06:16.910 PEOPLE OUT 06:16.910 --> 06:17.444 THERE. 06:17.444 --> 06:18.879 I PERSONALLY HAVE MET 06:18.879 --> 06:19.479 2,000 06:19.479 --> 06:20.747 PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE. 06:20.747 --> 06:21.181 [ LAUGHTER ] 06:21.181 --> 06:22.382 >>SHELDON NOW 06:22.382 --> 06:23.584 WE TAKE SECOND 06:23.584 --> 06:24.618 CITY FOR GRANTED. 06:24.618 --> 06:26.720 THE PUBLIC TAKES ITS FOR 06:26.720 --> 06:27.254 GRANTED, ITS INFLUENCE AND 06:27.254 --> 06:27.521 ALL 06:27.521 --> 06:28.822 OF THAT. 06:28.822 --> 06:30.123 REMIND US HOW IT WAS DIFFERENT 06:30.123 --> 06:32.426 FROM WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN 06:32.426 --> 06:33.427 THE 06:33.427 --> 06:33.727 50s. 06:33.727 --> 06:34.862 >>THE 06:34.862 --> 06:35.629 COMPASS CAME 06:35.629 --> 06:35.963 BEFORE 06:35.963 --> 06:37.464 SECOND CITY AND WAS MORE OR LESS 06:37.464 --> 06:38.866 THE SAME BUT WAS IN THE 06:38.866 --> 06:40.634 UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO 06:40.634 --> 06:40.701 A 06:40.701 --> 06:41.635 REA AND 06:41.635 --> 06:42.836 DEPENDED ON THAT 06:42.836 --> 06:44.171 AUDIENCE FOR 06:44.171 --> 06:45.005 WHAT IT WAS. 06:45.005 --> 06:46.006 IN FACT, 06:46.006 --> 06:47.007 WHAT 06:47.007 --> 06:48.976 DAVID 06:48.976 --> 06:49.409 SHEPHERD WHO 06:49.409 --> 06:50.944 WAS THE 06:50.944 --> 06:51.712 PRODUCER MOVED IT 06:51.712 --> 06:52.212 NORTH, 06:52.212 --> 06:53.347 IT DIDN'T DO AS WELL. 06:53.347 --> 06:55.249 WE WANTED TO OPEN 06:55.249 --> 06:57.885 ANOTHER 06:57.885 --> 06:59.019 COMPASS, WELL BERNIE AND PAUL 06:59.019 --> 07:00.387 WANTED TO OPEN IT. 07:00.387 --> 07:01.955 DAVID WOULDN'T LET THEM HAVE THE 07:01.955 --> 07:02.256 NAME. 07:02.256 --> 07:03.991 BUT INSTEAD OF 07:03.991 --> 07:04.157 OPENING 07:04.157 --> 07:05.025 IT IN 07:05.025 --> 07:05.592 THE 07:05.592 --> 07:06.760 UNIVERSITY AREA, 07:06.760 --> 07:07.661 WE OPENED IT 07:07.661 --> 07:08.195 A 07:08.195 --> 07:09.229 BLOCK AWAY FROM 07:09.229 --> 07:10.731 WHERE SECOND 07:10.731 --> 07:11.698 CITY IS RIGHT 07:11.698 --> 07:12.599 NOW AS A MATTER OF 07:12.599 --> 07:13.867 FACT -- NO SEVERAL BLOCKS 07:13.867 --> 07:14.334 AWAY. 07:14.334 --> 07:15.569 ON A STRETCH OF WELLS 07:15.569 --> 07:15.903 STREET 07:15.903 --> 07:18.205 THAT NO 07:18.205 --> 07:18.839 LONGER 07:18.839 --> 07:20.707 EXISTS 07:20.707 --> 07:22.809 1842 NORTH 07:22.809 --> 07:24.044 WELLS, WHERE DO I REMEMBER THAT 07:24.044 --> 07:25.045 AND NOT WHO I 07:25.045 --> 07:26.413 MET YESTERDAY? 07:26.413 --> 07:26.780 [LAUGHTER] 07:26.780 --> 07:28.282 AND IT WAS A RECONVERTED -- IT 07:28.282 --> 07:29.716 WAS TWO STORES, 07:29.716 --> 07:30.817 A 07:30.817 --> 07:31.985 RECONVERTED 07:31.985 --> 07:33.520 CHINESE LAUNDRY AND 07:33.520 --> 07:34.922 A 07:34.922 --> 07:35.689 RECONVERTED 07:35.689 --> 07:36.990 HOT 07:36.990 --> 07:37.724 SHOP. 07:37.724 --> 07:38.692 -- HAT 07:38.692 --> 07:39.560 SHOP. 07:39.560 --> 07:40.527 WE WERE 07:40.527 --> 07:41.461 THE FIRST 07:41.461 --> 07:43.163 STOREFRONT 07:43.163 --> 07:43.497 THEATER. 07:43.497 --> 07:45.065 >>ONE OF THE THINGS HAROLD SAID 07:45.065 --> 07:46.800 HE MADE IT OKAY TO BE SMART 07:46.800 --> 07:47.467 ABOUT 07:47.467 --> 07:48.035 HUMOR. 07:48.035 --> 07:49.536 HE HELPED ESTABLISH 07:49.536 --> 07:50.270 HUMOR AS 07:50.270 --> 07:51.538 SOMETHING THAT IT WAS OKAY 07:51.538 --> 07:52.940 TO BE 07:52.940 --> 07:53.874 INTELLECTUAL AND LOVE 07:53.874 --> 07:54.208 HUMOR. 07:54.208 --> 07:55.275 >>WE WERE OFF IN 07:55.275 --> 07:56.510 THE 07:56.510 --> 07:56.910 UNIVERSITY. 07:56.910 --> 07:59.213 OUR AUDIENCES WERE DOCTORS AND 07:59.213 --> 08:00.547 LAWYERS AND MANY, 08:00.547 --> 08:01.048 MANY 08:01.048 --> 08:01.982 PSYCHO 08:01.982 --> 08:03.317 ANALYSTS, ALL 08:03.317 --> 08:04.284 OF WHOSE CHILDREN 08:04.284 --> 08:06.220 WERE IN VERY BAD 08:06.220 --> 08:06.553 SHAPE. 08:06.553 --> 08:07.855 AND 08:07.855 --> 08:09.423 PROFESSIONALS, GENERALLY 08:09.423 --> 08:10.257 SPEAKING. 08:10.257 --> 08:10.958 THE REFERENCE LE 08:10.958 --> 08:11.992 VEL WAS VERY 08:11.992 --> 08:13.794 DIFFERENT IN THOSE DAYS FROM 08:13.794 --> 08:14.595 WHAT IT IS NOW. 08:14.595 --> 08:15.696 WHEN MIKE AND ELAINE 08:15.696 --> 08:18.198 WERE DOING 08:18.198 --> 08:18.832 THEIR -- MIKE 08:18.832 --> 08:19.700 NICHOLS 08:19.700 --> 08:20.234 AND 08:20.234 --> 08:21.134 ELAINE 08:21.134 --> 08:22.336 WERE DOING THE 08:22.336 --> 08:23.804 NIGHTCLUB ACT AND 08:23.804 --> 08:24.972 BROADWAY ACT THEY WOULD ASK 08:24.972 --> 08:25.239 FOR 08:25.239 --> 08:26.573 AN AUTHOR, 08:26.573 --> 08:26.974 ANY 08:26.974 --> 08:28.075 AUTHOR 08:28.075 --> 08:28.809 FROM ANY 08:28.809 --> 08:30.410 TIME, ANY PLACE AND THEY 08:30.410 --> 08:32.779 WOULD 08:32.779 --> 08:33.780 IMPROVISE THE 08:33.780 --> 08:34.615 SCENE IN ANY 08:34.615 --> 08:34.915 PLACE. 08:34.915 --> 08:35.983 >>WOULD YOU 08:35.983 --> 08:37.584 GET STEPHEN 08:37.584 --> 08:38.585 KING IF 08:38.585 --> 08:39.586 YOU ARE LUCKY. 08:39.586 --> 08:40.988 BUT WHAT 08:40.988 --> 08:41.622 BERNIE 08:41.622 --> 08:42.856 RESENTED, THAT 08:42.856 --> 08:43.957 MATT WAS 08:43.957 --> 08:44.558 TALKING 08:44.558 --> 08:45.826 ABOUT WAS THAT 08:45.826 --> 08:47.027 THE REFERENCE LEVEL WAS 08:47.027 --> 08:48.529 TELEVISION AND 08:48.529 --> 08:48.795 THE 08:48.795 --> 08:49.229 REFERENCE 08:49.229 --> 08:51.331 LEVEL WAS MOVIES, 08:51.331 --> 08:52.833 BLOCKBUSTERS 08:52.833 --> 08:53.166 MOSTLY. 08:53.166 --> 08:54.334 AND HE WAS 08:54.334 --> 08:56.770 CONVINCED 08:56.770 --> 08:58.172 THAT THE 08:58.172 --> 08:58.839 REFERENCE LEVEL OF THE 08:58.839 --> 08:59.306 SHOWS 08:59.306 --> 09:00.741 COULD STILL BE 09:00.741 --> 09:01.775 AS 09:01.775 --> 09:02.376 INTELLECTUALLY 09:02.376 --> 09:03.744 ORIENTED OR 09:03.744 --> 09:04.244 LITERARILY O 09:04.244 --> 09:04.945 RIENTED 09:04.945 --> 09:07.014 AS IT WAS AND THE AUDIENCE WOULD 09:07.014 --> 09:07.748 KNOW WHAT WAS 09:07.748 --> 09:08.248 HAPPENING. 09:08.248 --> 09:10.083 AND ANY TIME IT IS AND MATT HAS 09:10.083 --> 09:10.817 BEEN VERY HELPFUL 09:10.817 --> 09:11.952 IN DOING THAT, 09:11.952 --> 09:12.586 THEY GET IT. 09:12.586 --> 09:14.688 THEY 09:14.688 --> 09:15.722 DO. 09:15.722 --> 09:16.390 >> 09:16.390 --> 09:16.890 MARTHA, TALK 09:16.890 --> 09:18.926 ABOUT HIS 09:18.926 --> 09:19.660 INTEREST -- CONTINUING INTEREST 09:19.660 --> 09:20.661 IN THEATER IN 09:20.661 --> 09:21.428 GENERAL AND WHAT 09:21.428 --> 09:22.763 HE MEANT IN THE 09:22.763 --> 09:23.297 THEATER 09:23.297 --> 09:25.032 COMMUNITY BEYOND THE COMEDY 09:25.032 --> 09:25.332 WORLD. 09:25.332 --> 09:27.634 >>FOR ONE THING, PHIL, HE HAD A 09:27.634 --> 09:29.069 VERY SPECIFIC 09:29.069 --> 09:30.437 IMPACT 09:30.437 --> 09:31.738 ON 09:31.738 --> 09:32.573 THEATER. 09:32.573 --> 09:33.774 SHELDON IS THE ONE 09:33.774 --> 09:34.408 WHO 09:34.408 --> 09:42.549 INTRODUCED THE FOLKS ATHE ST 09:42.549 --> 09:44.151 STEPPANWOLF TO BERNIE. 09:44.151 --> 09:46.086 THEY 09:46.086 --> 09:46.987 WERE 09:46.987 --> 09:48.922 LEAVING AFTER BEING IN 09:48.922 --> 09:49.289 HIGHLAND 09:49.289 --> 09:49.857 PARK. 09:49.857 --> 09:51.124 THEY HIRED PEOPLE 09:51.124 --> 09:52.459 PART-TIME TO 09:52.459 --> 09:53.093 DO BUSINESS 09:53.093 --> 09:54.228 STUFF AND THOSE 09:54.228 --> 09:54.862 GUYS 09:54.862 --> 09:55.996 SAID, LOOK, THERE'S NO 09:55.996 --> 09:56.496 MONEY, WE 09:56.496 --> 09:57.931 HAVE TO CLEZ 09:57.931 --> 09:58.298 AND 09:58.298 --> 09:59.433 RUSS SMITH WHO 09:59.433 --> 10:00.500 WAS THE FIRST 10:00.500 --> 10:01.869 MANAGING DIRECTOR 10:01.869 --> 10:03.337 JOHN 10:03.337 --> 10:04.204 MALKOVICH'S 10:04.204 --> 10:06.240 ROOMMATE IN 10:06.240 --> 10:07.808 COLLEGE. 10:07.808 --> 10:08.442 THEY SAID WE HAVE TO 10:08.442 --> 10:09.176 MOVE TO 10:09.176 --> 10:10.744 CHICAGO AND GET A NEW BOARD. 10:10.744 --> 10:11.812 IT'S BERNIE WHO HE 10:11.812 --> 10:13.113 CONNECTED 10:13.113 --> 10:13.680 THEM 10:13.680 --> 10:14.715 TO WHO WAS 10:14.715 --> 10:15.449 HELPFUL IN 10:15.449 --> 10:17.251 BUILDING A BOARD AND CONNECTING 10:17.251 --> 10:17.551 THEM. 10:17.551 --> 10:19.486 AND ALSO VERY GOOD FRIENDS WITH 10:19.486 --> 10:20.554 RICHARD WHO WAS ALREADY COMING 10:20.554 --> 10:22.122 BUT I THINK 10:22.122 --> 10:22.689 WAS 10:22.689 --> 10:23.457 ENCOURAGED. 10:23.457 --> 10:24.391 >>A. 10:24.391 --> 10:25.459 CLAIMED THEATER 10:25.459 --> 10:26.960 CRITIC. 10:26.960 --> 10:27.361 >> 10:27.361 --> 10:28.161 YES, 10:28.161 --> 10:29.563 THEY'RE THEY ARE 10:29.563 --> 10:30.197 CRITIC. 10:30.197 --> 10:31.398 WHAT RUSS SAID TO ME 10:31.398 --> 10:32.332 IN REGARD 10:32.332 --> 10:33.166 TO 10:33.166 --> 10:34.868 BERNIE'S INFLUENCE HE HELPED 10:34.868 --> 10:35.369 THEM 10:35.369 --> 10:36.436 GAIN A CERTAIN 10:36.436 --> 10:37.104 AMOUNT OF 10:37.104 --> 10:38.539 LEG MATCY, THESE 10:38.539 --> 10:39.339 PEOPLE 10:39.339 --> 10:40.541 ARE 10:40.541 --> 10:41.375 SERIOUS. 10:41.375 --> 10:42.142 BERNIE 10:42.142 --> 10:42.943 HAS ALWAYS TAKEN 10:42.943 --> 10:43.810 THAT 10:43.810 --> 10:44.678 INTEREST -- 10:44.678 --> 10:46.647 >>HE WAS THE FIRST PERSON 10:46.647 --> 10:47.014 BRINGING 10:47.014 --> 10:49.416 WAITING FOR 10:49.416 --> 10:50.384 GOODEAU 10:50.384 --> 10:51.185 TO 10:51.185 --> 10:51.552 CHICAGO. 10:51.552 --> 10:53.921 >>MATT WE MENTIONED AT THE 10:53.921 --> 10:56.156 BEGINNING OF THE SEGMENT ALL THE 10:56.156 --> 10:56.990 FAMOUS PEOPLE THAT 10:56.990 --> 10:58.058 HE MENTORED. 10:58.058 --> 11:00.394 WHAT DO YOU THINK IT 11:00.394 --> 11:01.094 MEANT TO 11:01.094 --> 11:02.062 HIM TO 11:02.062 --> 11:03.363 BE BRING IN 11:03.363 --> 11:03.764 GENERATION 11:03.764 --> 11:05.132 AFTER GENERATION OF TALENTED 11:05.132 --> 11:05.499 PEOPLE? 11:05.499 --> 11:07.234 >>IT'S PART OF WHAT DRIVES 11:07.234 --> 11:08.302 FOLKS LIKE BERNIE TO THE 11:08.302 --> 11:10.003 BUSINESS IN THE FIRST 11:10.003 --> 11:10.871 PLACE 11:10.871 --> 11:12.105 IS 11:12.105 --> 11:13.207 CULTIVATING AND CONNECTING TO 11:13.207 --> 11:14.541 PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT THINGS AND 11:14.541 --> 11:15.976 ARE PASSION ABOUT THE WORLD AND 11:15.976 --> 11:17.344 HAVE OPINIONS AND 11:17.344 --> 11:18.278 POINT OF 11:18.278 --> 11:18.579 VIEWS. 11:18.579 --> 11:19.980 HE WAS A VERY 11:19.980 --> 11:20.514 OPINIONATED 11:20.514 --> 11:20.848 PERSON 11:20.848 --> 11:22.115 AND EVEN 11:22.115 --> 11:22.616 IN MY 11:22.616 --> 11:23.483 CONVERSATIONS 11:23.483 --> 11:25.452 WITH HIM, IT WAS A 11:25.452 --> 11:26.920 TWO-HOUR 11:26.920 --> 11:27.287 ARGUMENT. 11:27.287 --> 11:28.922 I HAD TO BE PREPARED AND HE 11:28.922 --> 11:29.957 CHALLENGED MY 11:29.957 --> 11:30.824 POINT 11:30.824 --> 11:31.625 OF 11:31.625 --> 11:32.125 VIEW. 11:32.125 --> 11:33.193 HE RESPONDED TO 11:33.193 --> 11:34.661 THAT 11:34.661 --> 11:35.629 AND 11:35.629 --> 11:36.496 COMEDIANS TEND TO 11:36.496 --> 11:37.364 BE THAT 11:37.364 --> 11:37.798 KIND 11:37.798 --> 11:38.498 OF PERSON. 11:38.498 --> 11:40.133 >>HE 11:40.133 --> 11:40.968 SAID AT 11:40.968 --> 11:42.135 ITS BEST IT'S 11:42.135 --> 11:42.603 NOT 11:42.603 --> 11:43.871 A COMEDY OF COMMENT. 11:43.871 --> 11:45.038 >>FIRST OF ALL WE DON'T 11:45.038 --> 11:47.975 DO 11:47.975 --> 11:48.308 JOKES. 11:48.308 --> 11:49.977 IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN 11:49.977 --> 11:51.879 PART 11:51.879 --> 11:52.646 OF 11:52.646 --> 11:54.515 PRINCIPLE OF WHAT SECOND CITY IS 11:54.515 --> 11:55.516 THAT IT'S NOT US 11:55.516 --> 11:56.583 AGAINST THE 11:56.583 --> 11:57.885 AUDIENCE IT'S THAT WE'RE 11:57.885 --> 11:59.353 IN THIS 11:59.353 --> 12:00.454 TOGETHER. 12:00.454 --> 12:01.154 AND 12:01.154 --> 12:02.189 BERNIE LIKED 12:02.189 --> 12:02.623 SCENES, YOU 12:02.623 --> 12:04.358 THIS USED TO BE CALLED PEOPLE 12:04.358 --> 12:06.426 SCENES, NOW THEY ARE CALLED 12:06.426 --> 12:07.494 BEHAVIOR SCENES THAT ARE 12:07.494 --> 12:08.562 ABOUT 12:08.562 --> 12:09.763 INTERPERSON 12:09.763 --> 12:10.230 RELATIONSHIPS. 12:10.230 --> 12:11.899 >>HOW ARE YOU GOING TO REMEMBER 12:11.899 --> 12:12.232 BERNIE? 12:12.232 --> 12:13.300 >>60 YEARS OF 12:13.300 --> 12:14.301 ONE OF MY 12:14.301 --> 12:15.669 BEST 12:15.669 --> 12:16.303 FRIENDS, 12:16.303 --> 12:17.137 MAN WHO 12:17.137 --> 12:17.838 REALLY 12:17.838 --> 12:18.405 IS 12:18.405 --> 12:20.107 RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT MY 12:20.107 --> 12:20.707 CAREER 12:20.707 --> 12:22.142 IS OVER AND OVER AND 12:22.142 --> 12:23.510 OVER 12:23.510 --> 12:23.844 AGAIN. 12:23.844 --> 12:25.379 THE WAY I STARTED AT SECOND 12:25.379 --> 12:25.679 CITY 12:25.679 --> 12:26.914 I WAS A COLLEGE 12:26.914 --> 12:28.315 ENGLISH TEACHER 12:28.315 --> 12:30.017 BECAUSE I WAS BEING A GOOD 12:30.017 --> 12:30.617 JEWISH BOY AND GETTING 12:30.617 --> 12:31.585 OUT OF 12:31.585 --> 12:32.786 SHOW 12:32.786 --> 12:33.153 BUSINESS. 12:33.153 --> 12:33.587 [ LAUGHTER ] 12:33.587 --> 12:34.655 AND HE CALLED 12:34.655 --> 12:35.556 ME ONE 12:35.556 --> 12:36.490 NIGHT 12:36.490 --> 12:37.858 AND 12:37.858 --> 12:38.425 SAID, YOU STILL 12:38.425 --> 12:40.694 AN ENGLISH 12:40.694 --> 12:41.028 TEACHER? 12:41.028 --> 12:41.929 AND I SAID, YEAH. 12:41.929 --> 12:43.463 HE SAID ARE YOU GOING TO BE AN 12:43.463 --> 12:44.831 ENGLISH 12:44.831 --> 12:45.299 TEACHER THE REST 12:45.299 --> 12:46.133 OF Y 12:46.133 --> 12:47.568 OUR 12:47.568 --> 12:47.868 LIFE? 12:47.868 --> 12:49.136 I SAID WHAT DO YOU WANT 12:49.136 --> 12:49.670 BERNIE? 12:49.670 --> 12:50.871 I HE SAID I WANT YOU TO 12:50.871 --> 12:51.471 TAKE 12:51.471 --> 12:52.906 OVER AS 12:52.906 --> 12:53.807 MANAGER AND 12:53.807 --> 12:54.374 ASSISTANT 12:54.374 --> 12:55.509 DIRECTOR FOR PAUL AND I 12:55.509 --> 12:57.044 TOOK THE 12:57.044 --> 12:57.344 JOB. 12:57.344 --> 12:58.779 THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING 12:58.779 --> 12:59.980 HERE AND 12:59.980 --> 13:00.547 AGAIN 13:00.547 --> 13:01.715 OUR 13:01.715 --> 13:02.149 CONDOLENCES. 13:02.149 --> 13:03.116 >>THANK YOU. 13:03.116 --> 13:03.684 HE WILL BE MISSED. 13:03.684 --> 13:04.451 >> 13:04.451 --> 13:08.451 INDEED.