WEBVTT

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 TO PASS A MEASURE THAT IS

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NEEDED TO BAILOUT STRUGGLING

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NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS.

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WITHOUT THE NEW MONEY EXELON

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SAYS IT MAY HAVE TO CLOSE PLANTS

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IN CLINTON AND THE QUAD CITIES T

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WOULD CHANGE THE WITH WAY

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CUSTOMERS ARE CHARGED ADDING

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DEMAND PRICING YOUR ELECTRICITY

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WOULD COST MORE DURING PEEK

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HOURS.

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CRITICS SAY THE MEASURE COULD

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SEND THE ELECTRICITY BILLS

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SOARING.

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HERE TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THIS

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AND HOW IT COULD IMPACT YOU ARE

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REPRESENTATIVE, AND CAROLINA,

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CHIEF OF THE PUBLIC INTEREST

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DIVISION FOR THE ILLINOIS

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ATTORNEY GENERAL, HER BOSS LISA

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MADIGAN HAS BEEN STRONGLY

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CRITICAL OF THE PROPOSED

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LEGISLATION.

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AND BOB GALLO ILLINOIS STATE

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DIRECTOR FOR AARP ALSO A CRITIC

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OF THE BILL AND WELCOME ALL TO

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"CHICAGO TONIGHT."

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ROBIN GABLE WHY SHOULD ILLINOIS

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CONSUMERS BE ASKED TO PAY HIGHER

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BILLS?

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>> WELL, LET'S TAKE A STEP BACK.

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SO WHEN WE LOOK AT A

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YEAR-AND-A-HALF AGO WE HAD THREE

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BILLS.

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WE HAD AN EXELON BILL, AND A

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COMMON COMMON BILL AND THE --

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COM-ED AND THE CLEAN ENERGY

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BILL.

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IT CREATED THE FIX THE RPS THE

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RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO STANDARD AND

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ALLOW INVESTMENT IN ILLINOIS AND

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IT ALSO DOUBLED THE ENERGY

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EFFICIENCY THAT THE STATE

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PRODUCES AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY

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IS OUR CHEAPEST WAY TO CREATE

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RENEWABLE ENERGY.

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>> THAT IS AN INTERESTING BOSTON

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POLICE DEPARTMENT WHY SHOULD

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ILLINOIS CONSUMERS HAVE TO PAY

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HIGHER BILLS TO BAILOUT NUCLEAR

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PLANTS THAT ARE STRUGGLING

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ECONOMICALLY?

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>> WE NEED TO LOOK HOW WE NEED

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TO INCREASE RENEWABLE ENERGY IN

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THE STATE.

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IT IS THE FUTURE AND CLIMATE

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CHANGE IS AN ISSUE AND HOW WE

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NEED TO INCREASE RENEWABLE

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ENERGY IN THE STATE AND I THINK

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THIS BILL DOES THAT IT FIXES THE

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RPS AND FIXES ENERGY EFFICIENCY

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AND IT HAS SOME THINGS FOR COM

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ED AND LEX LONE BUT IT ALSO

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INVESTS A BILLION DOLLARS IN LOW

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INCOME COMMUNITIES.

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AND IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO

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REALLY --

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LIKE EVERY DECADE WE HAVE THIS

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OPPORTUNITY TO MODERNIZE OUR

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ENERGY PLANTS.

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>> CAROLINA HOW ABOUT --

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CARA HENDRICKSON, IT'S GOOD FOR

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INVESTMENT AND INTERESTING IN

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ENERGY, WHY NOT?

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>> THE PROBLEM IS THE HERE IS

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SIZE WOULD HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON

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RATEPAYERS ACROSS THE STATE OF

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ILLINOIS.

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WE HAVE ESTIMATED WHEN YOU ADD

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UP ALL THE PROGRAMS IN HERE THAT

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IT WILL COST ILLINOIS RATEPAYERS

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THROUGH 2030 MORE THAN $10

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BILLION.

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IT IS TOO MUCH TO ASK CONSUMERS

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TO PAY.

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>> Mr. FIDEL MARQUZ THIS HAS

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BEEN CHARACTERIZED AS THE

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LARGEST RATE HIKE IN U.S.

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HISTORY.

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IS IT?

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>> WELL, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT

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THE COST.

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BUT THE BENEFITS ARE BEING

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IGNORED.

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>> THE QUESTION IS IS THIS GOING

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TO BE THE HIGHEST RATE HIKE IN

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U.S. HISTORY.

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>> NO, IT WOULD NOT BE.

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BECAUSE THIS BILL IS A

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COMPREHENSIVE BILL THAT INCLUDES

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A LOT OF BENEFITS TO THE

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CUSTOMERS.

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AS WE'VE SAID MANY TIMES, THE

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OVERALL COST TO OUR CUSTOMERS ON

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AVERAGE FOR RESIDENTIAL

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CUSTOMERS FOR THE PERIOD OF THE

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BILL TO 2030 WILL BE 25 CENTS A

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MONTH ON AVERAGE.

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25 CENTS A MONTH.

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AND COMPARE THAT --

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>> THE ESTIMATES THAT I'VE READ

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ARE MORE IN THE $2-$3 RANGE.

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AND YOU SAY THOSE ARE WRONG?

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>> THOSE ARE WRONG.

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>> BOB GALLO HOW EXPENSIVE IS

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THIS GOING TO BE?

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>> IT IS GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE

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FOR PEOPLE MEMBERS THAT WE

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REPRESENT AT AARP.

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YOU MENTION THE DEMAND RATE.

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IF YOU LIVE AT HOME OR WORK AT

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HOME DURING THE DAY, WHEN ENERGY

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USAGE IS THE HIGHEST YOU WILL

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PAY MORE FOR THAT ENERGY.

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SO IF YOU THINK OF A RETIRED

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INDIVIDUAL SOMEONE UNEMPLOYED

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SOMEONE WHO WORKS AT HOME SO

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IT'S NOT JUST OLDER INDIVIDUALS

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BUT IT'S MILLENNIALS.

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AND IT'S NOT JUST RESIDENTS

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AFFECTED BY THIS.

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IT'S BUSINESSES AS WELL.

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IT'S HOSPITALS WHOSE RATES WILL

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GO UP.

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WHEN A HOSPITAL'S RATES GO UP,

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THEY ARE HUGE, HUGE POWER USERS.

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THOSE COSTS WILL BE PASSED ALONG

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IN HEALTHCARE COSTS AS WELL.

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>> ROBIN RATES ARE SET BY THE

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ILLINOIS COMMERCE COMMISSION AND

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SOME SAY HAVING THEM DECIDED BY

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THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS DOING AN

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END RUN ON THE ICC, IS IT?

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>> NO, I THINK THE ICC HAS THE

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FINAL DECISION IN THIS.

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I THINK THE BILL MAY BE A LITTLE

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BIT TOO BIG AND THINGS WE NEED

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TO LOOK AT IN THE BILL AND THE

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BAILOUT FOR COAL.

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AND THE SUBSIDY FOR COAL.

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AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT A FEW

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OTHER THINGS.

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WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE DEMAND

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CHARGE.

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ISSUES HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT

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THE DEMAND CHARGE AND THAT IS

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SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

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AND AMRON REPRESENTS PEOPLE FROM

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PEORIA DOWN AND I DO NOT THINK

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THERE IS ENOUGH ENERGY

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EFFICIENCY AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY

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CREATES THE JOBS.

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>> THE BILL IS STILL IN

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FORMATION?

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>> I THINK THERE ARE ISSUES AND

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THINGS WE CAN WORK ON.

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>> CARA HENDRICKSON LISA MADIGAN

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WAS QUOTED AS SAYING THE

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LEGISLATION IS OUTRAGEOUS.

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>> THE OBJECTIONS GO TO THE

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SCOPE OF THE BILL.

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YOU MENTIONED THAT EXELON HAS

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BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE TWO

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DISTRESSED NUCLEAR PLANTS.

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THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE BILL HAS

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BALLOONED INTO A CHRISTMAS TREE

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THAT INCLUDES A VARIETY OF

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DIFFERENT PROGRAMS.

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REPRESENTATIVE GABLE MENTIONED A

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$3 BILLION SUBSIDY FOR COAL HAS

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BEEN ADDED TO THE BILL IN THE

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LAST 48 HOURS.

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SO OUR OBJECTIONS ARE THAT THE

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BILL HAS BECOME AN OPPORTUNITY

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TO LOAD IT DOWN WITH PROGRAMS

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THAT THE ARE HARMFUL TO

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CONSUMERS AND DO TAKE AWAY THE

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DISCONGRESS OF THE ICC.

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>> FIDEL MARQUZ HAS THIS BECOME

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A LOOK UNDER THE CHRISTMAS TREE

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SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY?

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IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS

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NECESSARY AS A MATTER OF

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POLITICS?

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>> CERTAINLY, THE ADDITION OF

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THE COAL ASSISTANCE PART IS NEW

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AND WE CERTAINLY HEARD DURING

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THE HEARING YESTERDAY A LOT OF

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CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

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BUT THE TIME IS NOW TO TAKE

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ACTION ON THIS BILL.

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THE COST OF INACTION MAY CAUSE

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CUSTOMERS UP TO $1.85 A MONTH IF

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THE NUCLEAR PLANTS COME DOWN AND

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REPLACEMENT POWER.

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>> HOW COULD THAT BE?

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IN 2015 ILLINOIS PRODUCED 41%

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MORE ENERGY THAN IT NEEDED AND

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DEMAND HAS BEEN SHRINKING BY 1%

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A YEAR SINCE 2011.

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WHY NOT SHUT THE FACILITIES?

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>> NOT ALL ASSETS OPERATE THE

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SAME WAY.

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NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS ARE

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AVAILABLE 94, 95% OF THE TIME

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THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

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COAL PLANTS ARE LESS.

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AND WIND IS 30%.

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SOLAR 50%.

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YOU MAY COUNT ALL THE NAMEPLATE

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RATINGS OF THE CAPACITY BUT THEY

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DO NOT ALWAYS OPERATE AT THE

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SAME LEVEL OF AVAILABILITY.

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SO TO SAY THAT IT'S 40% YOU GOT

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TO REALLY LOOK AT THE TYPE OF

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PLANTS AND THE TYPE OF UNITS WE

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ARE TALKING ABOUT.

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>> BOB GALLO ONE OF THE

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OBJECTIONS IS IF THE STATE IS

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PRODUCING 40% EXCESS ENERGY

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PRESUMABLY IT'S BEING SOLD TO

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SOMEBODY ELSE ARE ILLINOIS

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RATEPAYERS SUBSIDIZING LOWER

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RATES FOR ADJOINING STATES?

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>> THEE RHETT KA CALI YES.

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AND IT IS THE LARGEST INCREASE

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IN U.S. HISTORY AND THE BILL HAS

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446 PAGES THAT DROPPED FOR THE

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ASSEMBLY TO READ AND UNDERSTAND

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WHAT IS IN IT WHEN IT SHOULD

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HAVE STARTED WITH THE ILLINOIS

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COMMERCE COMMISSION FIRST AND

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THE ILLINOIS COMMERCE

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COMMISSION'S RESPONSIBILITY TO

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MAKE SURE THAT ANY RATE

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INCREASES ARE FAIR AND BALANCED

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AND TAKE THE CONSUMER INTO

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CONSIDERATION.

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>> ROBIN GABLES SAID THAT THE

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ICC WOULD HAVE THE FINAL SAY

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WOULD IT NOT?

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>> THAT IS NOT WHAT WE HEARD.

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THIS IS DROPPED DURING A VETO

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SESSION WHICH IS INAPPROPRIATE.

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THE PURPOSE OF A VETO SESSION IS

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TO CONSIDER BILLS FROM THE LAST

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SESSION AND TO DECIDE BY THE

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GENERAL ASSEMBLY WHETHER THEY

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WANT TO OVERRIDE THE BILLS OR

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LET THEM MOVE FORWARD.

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THIS BILL, IS SOMETHING THAT HAS

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BEEN SNUCK INTO THE VETO SESSION

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AND IS BEING RAMMED THROUGH THE

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GENERAL ASSEMBLY WITH THE HOPES

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OF PASSAGE WITHOUT PEOPLE

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NOTICING.

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>> HOW ABOUT THAT?

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WHY PUSH THE BILL NOW

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THANKSGIVING?

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YOU SAW A STACK OF PAPERS 446

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PAGES?

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WHY NOW?

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>> WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE

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BILL FOR A YEAR-AND-A-HALF.

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THIS IS NOT A BILL THAT HAS BEEN

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RUSHED.

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IT'S BEEN A LONGTIME COMING AND

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I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY IS NOW.

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WE HAVE A NEW PRESIDENT WHO IS

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NOT GOING TO BE PASSING GREAT

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ENERGY POLICY AT THE NATIONAL

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LEVEL.

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YOU KNOW DOES NOT BELIEVE IN

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CLIMATE CHANGE AND IT WILL BE

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OUR RESPONSIBILITY AT THE STATE

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TO COME UP WITH A MODERN ENERGY

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POLICY HERE.

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>> HOW ABOUT THE --

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WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THE ISSUE

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THAT THE STATE IS ALREADY

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PRODUCING 41% MORE THAN IT

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NEEDS, SELLING THAT EXCESS TO

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OTHER STATES AND ILLINOIS

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RATEPAYERS ARE IN ESSENCE

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SUBSIDIZING LOWER RATES FOR

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NEIGHBORING STATES.

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>> IT IS AN ISSUE OF CLIMATE

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CHANGE WE WANT TO INCREASE THE

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RENEWABLES WE HAVE IN THE STATE.

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>> AMPLIFY HOW ADDRESS HOW THE

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BILL WILL DO THAT?

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>> IT WOULD FIX THE RENEWABLE

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PORTFOLIO STANDARD FUNDS THAT

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ARE INVESTED INTO RENEWABLE

09:52.400 --> 09:55.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5%
ENERGY.

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THEY ARE FUNDS THAT ARE INVESTED

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OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.

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SO COMPANIES FEEL LIKE THEY CAN

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MAKE THE INVESTMENT IN ILLINOIS.

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RIGHT NOW THE COMPANIES ARE

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INVESTING IN OTHER STATES.

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WE ARE LOSING JOBS TO OTHER

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STATES.

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WE ARE LOSING AN OPPORTUNITY TO

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IN THIS WHOLE NEW JOB ARENA AND

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I DO NOT THINK ILLINOIS CAN

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AFFORD TO DO THAT.

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IT PROVIDES FOR A PAYMENT SYSTEM

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THAT THEY CAN RELIABLE PAYMENT

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SYSTEM THAT THEY CAN COUNT ON

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AND INVEST HERE.

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>> BOB GALLO THERE IS AN AN

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ARRAY OF GROUPS SUPPORTIVE OF

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THIS BILL FROM THE SIERRA CLUB

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TO THE CITIZENS UTILITY BOARD

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WHAT IS IN IT FOR THEM?

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>> WHAT IS IN IT FOR THEM?

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WHAT THEY DECIDE WHAT IS IN IT

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FOR THEM.

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WHY DO RATEPAYERS HAVE TO PAY

10:38.333 --> 10:46.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5%
FOR THESE ISSUES?

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EXELON HAD $30 BILLION IN

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PROFITS IN 2015.

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IN ORDER TO RAISE RATES TO PAY

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FOR SOMETHING ELSE IT DOES NOT

10:49.433 --> 10:52.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5%
MAKE SENSE.

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AND JOBS?

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THE ILLINOIS MANUFACTURERS

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ASSOCIATION IS CONCERNED ABOUT

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THIS AND ARE OPPOSED TO IT.

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THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT STEEL

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PLANTS THAT WILL DIP INTO THE

10:59.600 --> 11:05.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5%
PROFITS BY 30%.

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WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOUR PROFITS

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GO DOWN YOU LAY PEOPLE OFF.

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CATERPILLAR IS CONCERNED ABOUT

11:06.833 --> 11:11.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5%
THIS AND OPPOSED TO THE BILL AS

11:09.066 --> 11:12.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5%
WELL.

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>> FIDEL MARQUZ $30 BILLION YOUR

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COMPANY MADE?

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HOW MUCH IN PROFITS DOES THE

11:14.433 --> 11:18.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5%
COMPANY NEED?

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>> THESE ARE TWO PLANTS THAT

11:17.300 --> 11:22.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5%
AREN'T IN THE PROFIT.

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THEY ARE LOSING MONEY THEY ARE

11:20.733 --> 11:27.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5%
LOSING MONEY --

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>> THE COMPANY HAD A PROFIT OF

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$30 BILLION LAST YEAR AND YOU

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WANT THE RATEPAYERS TO PAY MORE.

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>> THERE'S ANOTHER TO THE BILL

11:30.866 --> 11:34.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5%
THAN JUST THE NUCLEAR POWER

11:33.400 --> 11:39.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5%
PLANTS.

11:33.766 --> 11:42.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5%
REPRESENTATIVE GABLE TALKED

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ABOUT THE RENEWABLES THAT IS 300

11:39.900 --> 11:45.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5%
MEGAWATTS OF SOLAR AND WIND ALL

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THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY.

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THIS IS JUST BEYOND MORE THAN

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JUST BEYOND THE NUCLEAR POWER

11:47.966 --> 11:51.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30%
PLANTS HERE.

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THAT IS WHY IT IS A BROADER

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COMPREHENSIVE BILL.

11:51.900 --> 11:58.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5%
>> ALL RIGHT.

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CARA HENDRICKSON, THE BILL WOULD

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CHANGE THE WAY THAT COM ED

11:58.766 --> 12:02.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70%
CHARGES FOR POWER AND DEMAND

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PRICING.

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OBJECTIONS?

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>> STRONG OBJECTIONS.

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ILLINOIS WOULD BE THE FIRST

12:04.900 --> 12:11.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5%
STATE IN THE COUNTRY TO REQUIRE

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RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS TO USE

12:09.666 --> 12:13.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5%
DEMAND RATE IT WOULD CHANGE THE

12:11.700 --> 12:15.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55%
WAY WE HAVE BILLED FOR

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ELECTRICITY IN ILLINOIS.

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WHEN YOU GET YOUR BILL IT IS IN

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LARGE PART BASED UPON HOW MUCH

12:17.266 --> 12:21.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20%
YOU USE.

12:17.933 --> 12:22.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5%
YOU USE MORE ELECTRICITY YOUR

12:19.533 --> 12:23.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5%
BILL IS HIGHER.

12:21.100 --> 12:25.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65%
YOU CAN EXPECT AND ROUGHLY

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ESTIMATE THE AMOUNT OF YOUR BILL

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BECAUSE YOU WILL KNOW ABOUT HOW

12:25.166 --> 12:31.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5%
MUCH YOU USED IN A MONTH.

12:27.733 --> 12:32.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65%
YOU PAY LESS YOU USE LESS.

12:29.800 --> 12:33.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5%
DEMAND RATES WOULD THROW THAT

12:31.166 --> 12:35.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5%
OUT THE WINDOW.

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THE PORTION OF YOUR BILL BASED

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ON HOW MUCH YOU USE, IT WOULD

12:35.366 --> 12:41.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70%
REPLACE IT WITH HOW MUCH YOU

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USED DURING THE HIGHEST PERIOD

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OF TIME MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

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WEEKDAY HOURS THAT YOU WILL PAY

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BASED ON THAT HIGHEST POINT.

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IT WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR

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CUSTOMERS TO PREDICT AND

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DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO CONTROL

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THEIR BILLS ALL OTHER REGULATORY

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COMMISSIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY

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WHO HAVE BEEN ASKED TO LOOK AT

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THIS IF THIS HAD GONE TO THE ICC

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OTHER STATES SAID NO WHEN

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PRESENTED WITH THIS.

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>> AND THE LAST WORD ON DEMAND

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PRICING, ROBIN GABLE.

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>> THAT IS ONE OF THE THREE

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THINGS I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK

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AT IN THE BILL.

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AS I SAID I'VE BEEN HEARING A

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LOT ABOUT IT FROM MY

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CONSTITUENTS AND COLLEAGUES AND

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THAT IS A CONCERN.

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>> FOR THEM FIDEL MARQUZ WHAT IS

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THE NEXT STEP?

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>> WE ARE CONTINUING DIALOGUE

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WITH ALL INTERESTED PARTIES AND

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TALKING AS I MENTIONED YESTERDAY

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AT THE HEARING THERE ARE THESE

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OPEN ISSUES AND WE WILL CONTINUE

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DISCUSSING OVER THE NEXT COUPLE

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OF WEEKS.

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AND LOOK TO MOVE THIS BILL

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FORWARD.

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>> BOB GALLO THE LAST WORD WHAT

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DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO KEEP IN

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MIND?

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>> KEEP IN MIND HOW THEIR

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REPRESENTATIVE VOTE ON THIS.

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A YES VOTE IS A VOTE FOR YOUR

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INCREASED RATES.

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>> AND THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE TO

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LEAVE IT.

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ROBIN GABLE, FIDEL MARQUZ, CARA

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HENDRICKSON AND BOB GALLO THANK

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YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.