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ARABIA.

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>> PHIL, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

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THAT'S WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID

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THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT THE MURDER

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OF DISSIDENT SAUDI JOURNALIST

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JAMAL KHASHOGGI HIS COMMENTS

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COME AFTER THE C.I.A. CONCLUDED

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THAT THE CROWN PRINCE OF SAUDI

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ARABIA, MOHAMMED BIN SALMAN

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ORDERED JAMAL KHASHOGGI KILLING

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IN INSTAN BULL.

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UNDER PRESSURE TO TAKE ACTIONS

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AGAINST THE SAUDI REGIME

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PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD THIS TO SAY

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TODAY.

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>> THEY ARE BUYING HUNDREDS OF

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BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF

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THINGS FROM THIS COUNTRY.

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IF I SAY WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE

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YOUR BUSINESS, IF I SAY WE ARE

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GOING TO CUT IT OFF, THEY WILL

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GET THE EQUIPMENT, MILITARY

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EQUIPMENT AND OTHER THINGS FROM

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RUSSIA AND CHINA.

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RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OIL PRICES IN

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GREAT SHAPE.

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I'M NOT GOING TO DESTROY THE

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WORLD ECONOMY AND I'M NOT GOING

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TO DESTROY THE ECONOMY FOR OUR

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COUNTRY BY BEING FOOLISH WITH

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SAUDI ARABIA.

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IT'S ABOUT AMERICA FIRST.

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>> MEANWHILE U.S. SECRETARY OF

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STATE, MIKE POMPEO ALSO RAISED

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SOME EYEBROWS TODAY CHALKING UP

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THE MURDER TO A MEAN, NASTY

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WORLD OUT THERE.

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HERE WAS LOCAL PERSPECTIVE ARE

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CECILE SHEA, A SPECIALIST ON

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GLOBAL SECURITY AND DIPLOMACY AT

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THE CHICAGO COUNCIL ON GLOBAL

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AFFAIRS AND SPENT TWO DECADES AS

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A U.S. DIPLOMAT INCLUDING

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SERVICE IN EUROPE, ASIA AND THE

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MIDDLE EAST.

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AND KHALIL MARRAN A PROFESSOR

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WHOSE EXPERTISE INCLUDES THE

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POLITICS OF THE MIDDLE EAST.

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THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE.

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CECILE SHEA SOMETHING ELSE THE

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PRESIDENT SAID WAS THAT THE U.S.

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WILL REMAIN A STEADFAST PARTNER

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OF SAUDI ARABIA IS THE PRESIDENT

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ACTING IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF

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THE UNITED STATES?

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>> I DON'T THINK THAT HE IS.

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SAUDI ARABIA HAS BEEN A

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PROBLEMATIC COUNTRY FOR DECADES

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SOME WOULD SAY A BETTER PART OF

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A CENTURY AND WE HAVE BEEN

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WILLING TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY

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WHILE THEY EXPORTED THEIR REALLY

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PROBLEMATIC TYPE OF ISLAM

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EXTREMIST, REMEMBER THAT MOST OF

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THE 9/11 HIJACKERS WERE SAUDI

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CITIZENS.

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SAUDIS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN

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TERROR ATTACKS AGAINST THE

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UNITED STATES IN SAUDI ARABIA

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AND IN AFRICA.

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AND WE CHOSE TO IGNORE IT.

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WE'VE CHOSEN TO IGNORE SAUDIS

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EXTREME HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES IN

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YEMEN WHICH LED TO THE GREATEST

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HUMANITARIAN CRISIS FACING THE

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GLOBE RIGHT NOW.

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AND THE PRESIDENT'S STATEMENT

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TODAY HE BLAMED THE PROBLEMS IN

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YEMEN ON IRAN AND THAT IS

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DISINGENUOUS, THE SAUDIS ARE

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BEHIND THIS AND THEY HAVE A

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HIDEOUS HUMAN RIGHTS RECORD AT

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HOME AND WE HAVE BEEN WILLING TO

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LOOK AWAY BECAUSE WE NEEDED

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THEIR OIL AND WHAT IS GOING ON

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NOW WE ARE NOT AS DE3E7BDENT ON

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SAUDI OIL ANYMORE.

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>> KHALIL MARRAN SOMETHING ELSE

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WHEN ASKED WHETHER MOHAMMED BIN

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SALMAN WAS BEHIND THE KILLING HE

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SAID MAYBE HE DID IT, MAYBE HE

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DIDN'T.

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AND THE CROWN PRINCE HAS BEEN

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THE FOCUS OF THIS INVESTIGATION

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AND WHETHER HE WAS BEHIND IT.

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BUT WOULD HE HAVE ACTED

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UNILATERALLY?

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>> I MEAN DEPENDS WHAT WE MEAN

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BY UNILATERALLY.

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I DON'T THINK THAT THE CROWN

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PRINCE HAD TO ASK FOR PERMISSION

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IF THAT IS THE QUESTION.

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IF THE QUESTION, HOWEVER, IS DID

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THE UNITED STATES AND SAUDI

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ARABIA CONSPIRE TO KILL HIS

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JOURNALIST, I SAY NO.

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BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO

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REMEMBER THIS IS THE SAME

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PRESIDENT THAT HAS CALLED

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JOURNALISTS LIKE YOURSELF

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ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE.

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AND THE RHETORIC THAT TRUMP AS

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ENGAGED IN HAS BEEN DANGEROUS,

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INDEED.

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NOT TO MENTION UPENDING THE

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ENTIRE INTERNATIONAL ORDER UPON

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WHICH WE RELIED FOR MANY, MANY,

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MANY YEARS SINCE THE SECOND

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WORLD WAR.

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NOT TO VIOLATE HUMAN RIGHTS AND

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TO RESPECT THE FUNDAMENTAL

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PRINCIPLE OF THE FREEDOM OF THE

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PRESS AND SPEECH.

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IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IS GOING

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ON INSIDE THE SAUDI ARABIA.

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IT MATTERS MUCH MORE THAT THE

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UNITED STATES SETS A POSITIVE

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TONE, A TONE THAT IS AFFIRMATIVE

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OF HUMAN RIGHTS AND NOT OPPOSED

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TO IT.

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>> AS CECILE SHEA SAID AT THIS

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POINT, THE UNITED STATES IS NOT

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AS RELIANT ON SAUDI OIL AS IT

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ONCE WAS.

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SO AS IT STANDS NOW, WHO IS MORE

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RELIANT ON WHO AT THIS POINT?

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THE UNITED STATES TO SAUDI

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ARABIA OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

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>> I AGREE WITH CECILE SHEA.

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THAT THE UNITED STATES IN

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PARTICULAR IS NOT DEPENDENT AS

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IT ONCE WERE ON SAUDI OIL.

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AND THAT IS RELATIVE.

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WE HAVE TO THINK IN TERMS OF

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ABSOLUTE IN ABSOLUTE TERMS.

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IT'S ALL THE SAME POT THE SAME

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OIL MARKETS ALL THE SAME OIL

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BEING TRADED.

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AND THEREFORE WE CANNOT LOOK AT

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THE RELATIONSHIP AS BEING ONE OF

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ONLY THE UNITED STATES DEPENDING

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ON SAUDIS.

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A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT REMEMBER

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THE EMBARGO IN 1973.

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THE SAUDIS ARE NOT CAPABLE OF

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THE SAME ACTION BUT I FEAR GIVEN

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THAT SAUDI ARABIA IS THE WORLD'S

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PREEMPTNENT OIL PRODUCER THAT

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YES, THE UNITED STATES DOES NEED

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SAUDI ARABIA IN ORDER TO HAVE A

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STABLE GLOBAL ECONOMY.

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YOU CANNOT HAVE THAT WITHOUT

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STABLE OIL PRICES.

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>> DOES THE UNITED STATES NEED

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SAUDI ARABIA TO HAVE A STABLE

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MIDDLE EAST?

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>> CECILE SHEA?

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>> I WOULD ARGUE THAT SAUDI

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ARABIA IS AN AENACT MA TO A

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STABLE MIDDLE EAST.

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THEIR ACTIONS OF EXPORTING

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2345UD GNAWED.

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THEY HAVE WITHIN

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THEY HAVE BEEN AN UNHELPFUL

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PARTY IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF

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ISLAM AROUND THE WORLD.

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AND MADE THE U.S. MORE

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DANGEROUS.

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THEY HAVE BEEN PROBLEMATIC FOR

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OUR OWN NATIONAL SECURITY AND WE

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SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IGNORING IT

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FOR DECADES AND NOT IGNORING IT

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NOW.

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>> AND THE QUESTION IS WHETHER

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THERE IS TRUTH IN THE AMOUNT OF

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MONEY THAT SAUDI ARABIA HAS

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PLEDGED TO BUY ARMMENTS FROM THE

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UNITED STATES THE PRESIDENT SAID

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410 BILLION TO 450 BILLION AND

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MOST SAY THAT IT DOESN'T

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APPROACH ANYWHERE NEAR THAT AND

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MOST CONTRACTS WILL NEVER BE

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FULFILLED?

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>> EDDIE IT'S $15 BILLION WHICH

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IS A GOOD CHUNK OF CHANGE AND WE

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SHOULDN'T BURN OUR BRIDGES WHEN

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IT COMES TO 15 BILLION DOLLARS.

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BUT, I DON'T LIKE LISTEN TO

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ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I THINK

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THE UNITED STATES NEEDS SAUDI

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ARABIA THAT IT IS IN OUR

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STRATEGIC AND NATIONAL INTEREST

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TO DEPEND ON SAUDI ARABIA AND I

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SOMEWHAT DISAGREE WITH CECILE

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SHEA AND THE POINT SHE IS MAKING

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IS LEGITIMATE AND THEY HAVE BEEN

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FUELING ISLAMISMS AND THEISMS

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AND WE MUST HAVE A MEMORY LOOK

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AT 1979, THE YEAR THAT TURNED

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SAUDI ARABIA IN THE STATE THAT

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WE KNOW IT TODAY.

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IF ANYTHING, THE CROWN PRINCE IS

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MOVING AWAY FROM THAT BRINK.

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HE LIKE STABILIZING SAUDI ARABIA

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AND SORT OF LIKE MODERATING THE

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RADICAL ISLAM.

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SAUDI ARABIA HAS RIGHTLY SO BEEN

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ACCUSED OF DOING.

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BUT THE IRANIAN INFLUENCE AS

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WELL.

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IN 1979 IRAN HAS A REVOLUTION

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WHERE THEY ARE EXPORTING SHI'ITE

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EXTREMISM NOT AROUND THE MIDDLE

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EAST BUT AROUND THE WORLD.

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>> THE QUESTION IS AT THIS

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POINT, IS THERE A MORAL

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PREROGATIVE IN CANCELING THE

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CONTRACTS?

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AND SANCTIONING THE SAUDIS?

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WHAT DO YOU THINK CECILE SHEA?

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>> WELL, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE

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A DEBATE ON WHAT WE SHOULD DO

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ABOUT THE CONTRACTS.

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WE SHOULD HAVE A LOT MORE

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KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHAT THE WEAPONS

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ARE.

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AND WEAPON SALES TO ANY COUNTRY

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ARE SUPPOSED TO BE APPROVED BY

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THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND THE

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DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND

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CONGRESS WOULD NORMALLY HAVE A

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SAY AND WE NEED TO ASK OURSELVES

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AS WE DO WITH WEAPONS SALES

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BUT --

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>> RELATED TO THIS INCIDENT THIS

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MURDER, THE C.I.A. DETERMINED

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THAT THE CROWN PRINCE AND

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POSSIBLY HIS INNER CIRCLE OR THE

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WIDER CIRCLE WERE BEHIND THE

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MURDER.

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THE PRESIDENT HAS CHOSEN NOT TO

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GO BY THAT FINDING S THERE A

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MORAL STANDING THAT THE

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PRESIDENT SHOULD BE TAKING

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RATHER THAN AN ECONOMIC ONE?

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>> I THINK THERE IS A MORAL

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STANDING.

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I THINK THAT THE WORLD IS

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WATCHING HOW WE'RE GOING TO

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REACT.

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I DON'T KNOW WHAT SIZE OF THE

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SANCTIONS THEY SHOULD BE OR WHAT

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FORM THEY SHOULD TAKE BUT I

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THINK THERE IS SUCH WIDESPREAD

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AND BIPARTISAN CRITICISM OF THE

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ACTION --

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>> INCLUDING FROM SENATOR

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LINDSEY GRAHAM THAT HE HAS

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BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR

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SANCTIONS.

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>> AND YEMEN, THE HORROR THAT IS

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GOING ON WITH THE CHILDREN

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STARVING TO DEATH AND TENS OF

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THOUSANDS OF CIVILIAN

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CASUALTIES.

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I THINK IT'S TIME FOR ACTION.

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WHAT THE ACTION SHOULD BE?

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I AM AHE NOT PREPARED TO SAY.

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AND IN PART BECAUSE WE DON'T

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UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING ABOUT THE

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ARMS SALES.

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>> KHALIL MARRAN, DO YOU BELIEVE

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THE C.I.A.'S FINDINGS THAT THE

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CROWN PRINCE AND PERHAPS A WIDER

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CIRCLE OF SAUDI OFFICIALS WERE

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BEHIND THE MURDER?

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>> IT'S COMMON SENSE.

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NOTHING HAPPENS IN TERMS OF

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SAUDI FOREIGN POLICY WITHOUT THE

08:53.200 --> 08:56.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5%
CROWN PRINCE.

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>> WHAT IS THE REACTION DO YOU

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THINK FROM THE REST OF THE

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MIDDLE EAST OR THE REST OF THE

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WORLD TO OUR FOREIGN POLICY WHEN

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THE PRESIDENT HAS CHOSEN TO

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IGNORE THAT FINDING?

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>> IT IS A THANK YOU FROM THE

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AUTO CONTRACTS AND DICTATORS AND

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MONARCHS.

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YOU HAVE TURKEY CRYING CROCODILE

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TEARS ABOUT A MURDERED

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JOURNALIST WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR

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OWN COUNTLESS JOURNALISTS THAT

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ARE JAILED AND IMPRISONED FOR

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DOING LESLIE HINDMAN AUCTIONEERS

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BRAVE IN HINDSIGHT NOW I SAY

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THIS THAN WHAT JAMAL KHASHOGGI

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WAS DOING.

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>> SO, IT ALSO BRINGS UP THE

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ISSUE OF WHAT PERSONAL INTEREST

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THE PRESIDENT MIGHT HAVE.

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HE SAYS HE HAS NO FINANCIAL TIES

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IN SAUDI ARABIA.

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WHEN THAT IS NOT EXACTLY TRUE.

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THE SAUDIS HAVE BAILED HIM OUT

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OF A NUMBER OF ISSUES WHEN HE

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HAS HAD FINANCIAL PROBLEMS.

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THEY BOUGHT THE 45TH FLOOR OF

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THE TRUMP WORLD TOWER IN NEW

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YORK TO THE TO BE CONFUSED WITH

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THE TRUMP TOWER ANOTHER PART OF

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MANHATTAN AND THE QUESTION ABOUT

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WHAT INTEREST HIS SON-IN-LAW,

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JARED KUSHNER MIGHT HAVE.

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DO YOU THINK THIS IS FACTORING

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INTO HIS DECISION?

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>> I WORRY IT'S FACTORING INTO

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HIS DECISION.

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THE FACT THAT NEITHER JARED

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KUSHNER NOR THE PRESIDENT WOULD

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BE ABLE TO GET ANY OTHER JOB IN

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THE U.S. GOVERNMENT BECAUSE OF

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THE COMPLEX DEALINGS AND THE

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LARGE AMOUNT OF DEBT THEY HOLD.

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IT'S PROBLEMATIC WHEN KUSHNER IS

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DEALING WITH CHINA OR SAUDI

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ARABIA KNOWING HIS FAMILY IS

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DESPERATE FOR AN INFUSION OF

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CAPITAL INTO THE REAL ESTATE

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EMPIRE.

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BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT SEEN HIS TAX

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RETURNS AND HE HAS NOT BEEN

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FORTHCOMING WITH HIS DEALINGS WE

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DON'T KNOW WHAT PRESIDENT

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TRUMP'S PAST OR PRESENT DEALINGS

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ARE WITH SAUDI ARABIA AND WE

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DON'T KNOW WHAT FUTURE IDEAS HE

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HAS ABOUT SAUDI ARABIA.

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AND THE AMOUNT OF CAPITAL THAT

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HE MAY HOPE TO GAIN FROM THAT

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COUNTRY.

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SO, YES, IT'S REALLY

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PROBLEMATIC.

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>> WE SAW PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE

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CROWN PRINCE.

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ONE OF THEM WAS WHEN HE DID HIS

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GRAND TOUR OF THE UNITED STATES

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EARLIER THIS YEAR WHERE HE MET

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NOT ONLY WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP

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BUT WITH THE FORMER PRESIDENTS

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BUSH AND A LOT OF CELEBRITIES

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AND MET WITH BUSINESS LEADERS.

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DOES THIS CHANGE THE U.S.

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RELATIONSHIP WITH SAUDI ARABIA

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EVEN IF PRESIDENT TRUMP DOESN'T

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WANT IT TO CHANGE?

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>> I DON'T THINK SO.

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I MEAN, THE PRESIDENT IS THE

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DECIDER IN CHIEF.

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CONGRESS IS NOT ABLE TO ACT IN

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THE WAY THAT ANYBODY WAS

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OUTRAGED ABOUT THE JAMAL

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KHASHOGGI MURDER WANTS THEM TO

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ACT.

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CONGRESS IS LIMITED.

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THE PRESIDENT IS THE DECIDER IN

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CHIEF AND THE PRESIDENT IS GOING

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TO SET THE TONE AND HE HAS SET

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THE TONE AND IT'S NOT LOOKING

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GOOD.

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LISTEN WHEN NBS CAME HERE AND

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DID THE TOUR HE HAD MEDIA

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INTERVIEWS.

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AND IF FOLKS LOOK AT THE

11:44.066 --> 11:50.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5%
INTERVIEWS THEY WILL NOTICE

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EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT

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NOW.

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FREEDOM WITHIN LIMITS.

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THERE IS AN OLD SLOGAN AT THE

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SAUDIS LOVE TO SORT OF TALK

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ABOUT.

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AND OR EXPRESS.

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AND THAT SLOGAN IS PROGRESS

11:59.933 --> 12:05.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5%
WITHOUT CHANGE.

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>> SO CECILE SHEA WHAT DO YOU

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BELIEVE WILL CHANGE FROM HERE?

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THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST

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SIGNIFICANT FOREIGN POLICY

12:08.833 --> 12:14.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70%
DETERMINATIONS COMING OUT OF

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THIS ADMINISTRATION.

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AND THESE NEXT TWO YEARS OF HIS

12:14.266 --> 12:18.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5%
TERM, WHAT WILL CHANGE IF

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ANYTHING BECAUSE OF THIS?

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>> WELL, I THINK TWO OR THREE

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THINGS.

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FIRST, THE ONE THING THAT IS

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CLEAR IS THAT NBS IS NOT THE

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BRILLIANT POLITICIAN.

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HE IS UNSOPHISTICATED HE IS

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SHOCKED THAT MURDERING AN

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EMPLOYEE OF THE MOST RICHEST MAN

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IN THE WORLD, JAMAL KHASHOGGI

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WORKED FOR JEFF BEES SO, SOME

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BEZOS AND SOME ON ON CAPITOL

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HILL HAD FRIENDS IN THE SENATE

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AND THE HOUSE WAS A JOURNALIST

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THAT HE SEEMED SHOCKED THAT

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ANYONE WOULD HAVE CARED ABOUT

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THIS.

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>> THE FOREIGN POLICY COMING OUT

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OF THIS ADMINISTRATION.

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>> I THINK WE WILL SEE LESS

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SPACE IN NBF AND START LOOKING

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FOR PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE OF SAUD