1 00:00:02,066 --> 00:00:04,400 BACK TO YOU. 2 00:00:04,700 --> 00:00:09,866 >> IT'S ONE THING TO RECYCLE 3 00:00:06,233 --> 00:00:12,166 ALUMINUM CANS OR PAPER BUT WHAT 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:13,666 ABOUT CARPETING? 5 00:00:09,866 --> 00:00:16,566 ILLINOIS' CONSIDERING A PROPOSAL 6 00:00:12,166 --> 00:00:17,033 TO FACILITATE THAT BUT THE 7 00:00:13,666 --> 00:00:19,066 EFFORT HAS WALL TO WALL 8 00:00:16,566 --> 00:00:19,533 COMPLICATIONS. 9 00:00:17,033 --> 00:00:21,533 AMANDA VINICKY JOINS US WITH 10 00:00:19,066 --> 00:00:23,933 MORE. 11 00:00:19,533 --> 00:00:26,066 >> AS SOMEBODY WHO SPENT 12 00:00:21,533 --> 00:00:28,633 COUNTLESS HOURS ON THE GORGEOUS 13 00:00:23,933 --> 00:00:30,600 BUT VERY HARD MARBLE FLOORS AT 14 00:00:26,066 --> 00:00:32,966 THE ILLINOIS STATE CAPITOL I 15 00:00:28,633 --> 00:00:35,566 APPRECIATE A NICE LUSH CARPET. 16 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:37,366 BEYOND THAT AND I SUPPOSE 17 00:00:32,966 --> 00:00:39,633 ADMIRING A STYLISH FLOOR I HAVE 18 00:00:35,566 --> 00:00:41,300 NOT THOUGHT MUCH ABOUT WHAT 19 00:00:37,366 --> 00:00:42,366 CARPETS ARE MADE OF. 20 00:00:39,633 --> 00:00:43,766 MIKE GRADY THE LOBBIEST FOR 21 00:00:41,300 --> 00:00:46,666 PARTNERS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL 22 00:00:42,366 --> 00:00:50,000 RESPONSIBILITY HE HAS. 23 00:00:43,766 --> 00:00:52,533 >> THEY ARE MADE OF PLASTIC. 24 00:00:46,666 --> 00:00:54,500 DIFFERENT TYPES OF POLYMERS. 25 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:55,500 YOU HAVE YOUR ALL THE FINERS AND 26 00:00:52,533 --> 00:00:56,766 EVERYTHING ARE ULTIMATELY MADE 27 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:59,533 OF PLASTIC. 28 00:00:55,500 --> 00:01:00,833 >> WHEN IT'S THE END OF THE ROAD 29 00:00:56,766 --> 00:01:03,333 FOR A RUG, 99% OF THE TIME THEY 30 00:00:59,533 --> 00:01:04,533 GO TO A LANDFILL. 31 00:01:00,833 --> 00:01:06,666 BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT 32 00:01:03,333 --> 00:01:08,700 WAY. 33 00:01:04,533 --> 00:01:11,800 COMPANIES HAVE DEVELOPED METHODS 34 00:01:06,666 --> 00:01:15,000 TO PROCESS OLD CARPETING 35 00:01:08,700 --> 00:01:15,300 GRINDING IT DOWN TO A PULP SO IT 36 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:17,533 CAN BE RESTORED TO PLASTIC FEED 37 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:20,333 STOCK. 38 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:22,400 >> ANYTHING THAT IS MADE OF 39 00:01:17,533 --> 00:01:24,133 PLASTIC IS MADE OF PLASTIC FEED 40 00:01:20,333 --> 00:01:25,833 STOCK WHETHER IT'S YOUR 41 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:28,000 DETERIENT OR DRINK YOUR BOTTLED 42 00:01:24,133 --> 00:01:29,500 WATER OR ANYTHING ELSE MADE OF 43 00:01:25,833 --> 00:01:31,133 PLASTIC INCLUDING THE SIDING ON 44 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:34,866 YOUR HOUSE OR DECKING FOR THE 45 00:01:29,500 --> 00:01:37,100 BACK OF YOUR HOUSE. 46 00:01:31,133 --> 00:01:39,366 ALL OF THOSE THINGS CAN BE MADE 47 00:01:34,866 --> 00:01:40,433 FROM THE RECYCLED FEED STOCK 48 00:01:37,100 --> 00:01:42,766 THAT COMES FROM CARPET. 49 00:01:39,366 --> 00:01:44,200 >> ROBYN GABEL IS A RESPONSE 50 00:01:40,433 --> 00:01:46,000 TORE OF A -- 51 00:01:42,766 --> 00:01:48,033 SPONSOR THAT WOULD ROLL OUT THE 52 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,800 CARPET FOR THE COMPANIES TO COME 53 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:51,266 ILLINOIS TO DO THAT RECYCLING 54 00:01:48,033 --> 00:01:53,700 WORK. 55 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:57,200 AND HEARING SEVERAL SAID THEY 56 00:01:51,266 --> 00:01:58,266 WOULD COME TO ILLINOIS AND IN 57 00:01:53,700 --> 00:02:00,200 THE MEANWHILE MAKE GOOD USE OF 58 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:02,566 VACANT WAREHOUSE SPACE AND 59 00:01:58,266 --> 00:02:03,433 CREATE A LOT OF JOBS IF ILLINOIS 60 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,866 PASSES A MEASURE TO MAKE IT 61 00:02:02,566 --> 00:02:06,500 COMMERCIALLY FEASIBLE. 62 00:02:03,433 --> 00:02:08,466 SHE SAYS THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR 63 00:02:04,866 --> 00:02:08,866 THE ENVIRONMENT, TOO. 64 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:10,733 >> THE GOAL OF THIS LAW IS 65 00:02:08,466 --> 00:02:13,366 AGGRESSIVE. 66 00:02:08,866 --> 00:02:17,500 IT IS TO ACHIEVE A CARPET 67 00:02:10,733 --> 00:02:18,933 RECYCLING RATE IN ILLINOIS OF 68 00:02:13,366 --> 00:02:20,933 25% BY THE END OF 2026. 69 00:02:17,500 --> 00:02:25,800 ACHIEVING THIS GOAL MEANS 70 00:02:18,933 --> 00:02:28,033 ILLINOIS WOULD REDUCE GREENHOUSE 71 00:02:20,933 --> 00:02:32,966 GAS EMISSIONS BY 146,560 METRIC 72 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:34,566 TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE 73 00:02:28,033 --> 00:02:36,066 EQUIVALENT EACH YEAR. 74 00:02:32,966 --> 00:02:38,066 >> CARPET STEWARDSHIP ACT CALLS 75 00:02:34,566 --> 00:02:40,066 FOR PRODUCERS TO FINANCE THIS 76 00:02:36,066 --> 00:02:41,800 RECYCLING PROGRAM. 77 00:02:38,066 --> 00:02:44,000 GRADY SAYS IT IS THE 78 00:02:40,066 --> 00:02:45,666 RESPONSIBILITY OF MANUFACTURERS 79 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:48,566 AND WITH THEIR PAYING THE TAB HE 80 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:51,933 SAYS CARPET RECYCLING WOULD COME 81 00:02:45,666 --> 00:02:53,800 AT NO COST AND NO EXTRA 82 00:02:48,566 --> 00:02:56,433 INCONVENIENCE TO CUSTOMERS. 83 00:02:51,933 --> 00:02:58,800 >> CARPET COMES TO YOUR HOUSE 84 00:02:53,800 --> 00:03:01,233 AND PUTS NEW FLOORING IN, PUTS 85 00:02:56,433 --> 00:03:02,866 NEW CARPET IN AND TAKES THE OLD 86 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,266 CARPET AND PADDING OUT, NOTHING 87 00:03:01,233 --> 00:03:05,766 IS GOING TO CHANGE FOR THE 88 00:03:02,866 --> 00:03:08,633 CONSUMER. 89 00:03:03,266 --> 00:03:10,933 THE INSTALLER WILL TAKE IT TO 90 00:03:05,766 --> 00:03:12,400 THE SAME LANDFILL AND TRANSFER 91 00:03:08,633 --> 00:03:14,366 STATION AND WHATEVER ELSE THEY 92 00:03:10,933 --> 00:03:16,933 WERE TAKING IT BEFORE. 93 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:18,733 NOW THOSE PLACES THAT THEY TOOK 94 00:03:14,366 --> 00:03:22,700 IT, WOULD BE REGISTERED AS 95 00:03:16,933 --> 00:03:24,433 COLLECTORS BY THE STATE AND THEY 96 00:03:18,733 --> 00:03:26,000 WOULD THEN MAKE DIVERT ON-SITE 97 00:03:22,700 --> 00:03:28,133 THE CARPET AWAY FROM THE REST OF 98 00:03:24,433 --> 00:03:29,933 THE GARBAGE THAT COMES IN. 99 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:33,366 AND THEN THE RECYCLING PART 100 00:03:28,133 --> 00:03:35,433 WOULD COME AND HAUL THAT STUFF 101 00:03:29,933 --> 00:03:39,900 OFF TO BEGIN BREAKING IT DOWN. 102 00:03:33,366 --> 00:03:41,466 >> ILLINOIS MANUFACTURERS 103 00:03:35,433 --> 00:03:43,233 ASSOCIATION C.E.O. MARK DENZLER 104 00:03:39,900 --> 00:03:43,666 SAYS APPLICANTS ARE TRYING TO 105 00:03:41,466 --> 00:03:46,866 PULL THE WOOL OVER CONSUMERS 106 00:03:43,233 --> 00:03:48,833 EYES. 107 00:03:43,666 --> 00:03:51,266 IF PRODUCERS COSTS RISE THAT 108 00:03:46,866 --> 00:03:52,733 WILL BE PASSED ON TO CUSTOMERS. 109 00:03:48,833 --> 00:03:53,500 >> THERE ARE NO TWO WAYS ABOUT 110 00:03:51,266 --> 00:03:55,333 IT NOTHING IS FREE IN THIS WORLD 111 00:03:52,733 --> 00:03:57,333 AS YOU KNOW. 112 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:59,633 AND THIS IS A TIME WHERE WE'RE 113 00:03:55,333 --> 00:04:01,833 SEEING RECORD INFLATION AND 114 00:03:57,333 --> 00:04:04,066 INFLATION RISE AT 7.5%. 115 00:03:59,633 --> 00:04:05,866 THE HIGHEST SINCE 1982. 116 00:04:01,833 --> 00:04:07,433 WE THINK IT'S THE WRONG TIME TO 117 00:04:04,066 --> 00:04:08,366 IMPOSE NEW TAXES AND FEES ON 118 00:04:05,866 --> 00:04:10,733 CONSUMERS WHO WANT TO PUT CARPET 119 00:04:07,433 --> 00:04:12,300 IN THEIR HOMES. 120 00:04:08,366 --> 00:04:15,600 >> HE SAYS THE IMPACT ON 121 00:04:10,733 --> 00:04:17,266 LANDFILLS MAY NOT BE HUGE BUT IT 122 00:04:12,300 --> 00:04:19,633 COULD HAVE A VERY BIG IMPACT ON 123 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:20,000 BOTH CONSUMERS THE COSTS AND 124 00:04:17,266 --> 00:04:22,033 ALSO ON JOBS THAT NEED TO BE 125 00:04:19,633 --> 00:04:24,066 PROTECTED. 126 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:26,833 ILLINOIS DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE 127 00:04:22,033 --> 00:04:28,400 CARPET MANUFACTURERS BUT MARK 128 00:04:24,066 --> 00:04:31,533 DENZLER SAYS AN INDUSTRY OF 129 00:04:26,833 --> 00:04:32,333 CARPET DEALERS AND INSTALLERS 130 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:33,833 WOULD FEEL THE PAIN IF CARPET 131 00:04:31,533 --> 00:04:36,066 SALES SLIDE. 132 00:04:32,333 --> 00:04:39,000 CALIFORNIA IMPLEMENTED A SIMILAR 133 00:04:33,833 --> 00:04:42,366 PROGRAM AND THE DATA FROM THERE 134 00:04:36,066 --> 00:04:45,933 SHOWS THAT PRICES WENT UP AND 135 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:46,866 CARPET SALES DROPPED 30%. 136 00:04:42,366 --> 00:04:48,733 >> IT'S BEEN IN PLACE BY THINGS 137 00:04:45,933 --> 00:04:50,033 PRODUCED OUTSIDE OF THE UNITED 138 00:04:46,866 --> 00:04:52,866 STATES THIS IS AN ANTI-AMERICAN 139 00:04:48,733 --> 00:04:54,733 MANUFACTURING BILL THAT IS GOING 140 00:04:50,033 --> 00:04:57,266 TO FORCE A LOT OF PEOPLE TO BUY 141 00:04:52,866 --> 00:04:58,766 CHEAPER PRODUCTS THAT ARE 142 00:04:54,733 --> 00:04:59,100 PRODUCED OVERSEAS AS OPPOSED TO 143 00:04:57,266 --> 00:05:00,633 CARPET PRODUCED IN THE UNITED 144 00:04:58,766 --> 00:05:03,800 STATES. 145 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:04,533 YOU HAVE CARPET ACCOUNTS FOR 146 00:05:00,633 --> 00:05:08,200 LESS THAN 2% OF ALL LANDFILL IN 147 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,500 THE UNITED STATES. 148 00:05:04,533 --> 00:05:10,400 BUT IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE AND 149 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,766 HEAVY. 150 00:05:08,500 --> 00:05:13,833 >> AND HE SAYS THAT IF CARPET IS 151 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:16,433 LEFT OUT AND GETS WET IT CANNOT 152 00:05:12,766 --> 00:05:17,433 BE REUSED. 153 00:05:13,833 --> 00:05:20,000 ALL ISSUES THAT MAKES CARPET 154 00:05:16,433 --> 00:05:22,233 RECYCLING COMPLICATED. 155 00:05:17,433 --> 00:05:23,500 HE SAYS THAT THERE IS -- 156 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:25,433 THAT IS AMONG THE REASONS THAT 157 00:05:22,233 --> 00:05:26,866 ILLINOIS ATTEMPTS TO INSTITUTE 158 00:05:23,500 --> 00:05:28,333 SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAVE STALLED 159 00:05:25,433 --> 00:05:30,266 IN THE RECENT PAST. 160 00:05:26,866 --> 00:05:32,533 ADVOCATES SAY THAT ILLINOIS IS 161 00:05:28,333 --> 00:05:34,433 POISED TO BE A LEADER IN THE 162 00:05:30,266 --> 00:05:35,966 MIDWEST AND THE SO-CALLED 163 00:05:32,533 --> 00:05:38,300 CIRCULAR ECONOMY AND THAT 164 00:05:34,433 --> 00:05:40,133 LEGISLATORS SHOULD BE PRIMED TO 165 00:05:35,966 --> 00:05:41,233 WELCOME NEW MANUFACTURING JOBS 166 00:05:38,300 --> 00:05:42,533 HEAVIER SUSPEND PROTECTING