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>> BUT FIRST THROUGHOUT HIS

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CAMPAIGN PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP

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WAS CLEAR IN HIS INTENTION TO

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QUOTE REPEAL AND REPLACE

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OBAMACARE OFTEN PROMISING TO DO

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IT ON DAY ONE.

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BUT SINCE THE ELECTION HE AND

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MANY REPUBLICAN LEADERS ARE

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SOUNDING MORE LIKE REVISING

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RATHER THAN REPEALING.

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ON 60 MINUTES THIS WEEK TRUMP

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SAID THAT PEOPLE WITH

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PREEXISTING CONDITIONS WOULD

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STILL BE COVERED AND YOUNG

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PEOPLE UNDERAGE 26 WOULD BE

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COVERED BY THEIR PARENTS'

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INSURANCE YET DURING THE

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PRIMARIES CANDIDATE TRUMP CALLED

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FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE ON 60

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MINUTES.

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>> EVERYBODY'S GOT TO BE

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COVERED.

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THIS IS AN UNREPUBLICAN THING

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FOR ME TO SAY BECAUSE THEY SAY

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NO THAT CANNOT AFFORD PRIVATE.

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>> UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE.

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>> I WILL TAKE CARE OF

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EVERYBODY.

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EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE TAKEN

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CARE OF, BETTER THAN THEY ARE

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TAKEN CARE OF NOW.

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>> WHAT SHOULD BE DONE WITH

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AFFORDABLE CARE ACT?

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AND JOINING US ARE DIANA

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RICKERT, SHE IS VICE-PRESIDENT

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OF COMMUNICATIONS AT THE

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ILLINOIS POLICY INSTITUTE.

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A FREE MARKET THINK TANK.

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AND DANIEL RABBITT PROJECT

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MANAGER FOR THE PROGRESSIVE

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POLICY AT THE HEARTLAND

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ALLIANCE.

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BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE HEARD WHAT

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DO YOU THINK THE FUTURE HOLDS

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FOR OBAMACARE?

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>> WELL, PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP

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CAMPAIGNED ON THE PREMISE OF

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REPEALING AND REPLACING

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OBAMACARE AND HE HAD BETTER

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DELIVER BECAUSE IF PEOPLE LOVED

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OBAMACARE WE WOULD BE TALKING

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ABOUT A PRESIDENT-ELECT CLINTON.

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THE ELECTORATE SIGNALED THEY

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WANT MAJOR CHANGES AND NOT

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MARGINS SHOULD BE ADJUSTED.

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THEY WANT IT TOSSED AND REPLACED

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WITH A NEW SYSTEM.

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>> TOTALLY NEW SYSTEM, DANIEL

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RABBITT DO YOU THINK BASED ON

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WHAT YOU ARE HEARING THE

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PRESIDENT-ELECT SAY WHAT DO YOU

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THINK THE FUTURE HOLDS?

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>> WELL, I THINK IT WILL BE MUCH

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MORE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO

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CREATE A BRAND NEW SYSTEM.

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WHILE THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT

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HAS NOT BEEN THE MOST POPULAR

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PROGRAM IN AMERICAN HISTORY MOST

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PEOPLE LIKE MOST OF THE

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COMPONENTS OF THE BILL.

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OF THE LAW.

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SO WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE

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DETAILS IT WILL BE MUCH MORE

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DIFFICULT.

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BUT REGARDLESS OF SPECULATING, I

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THINK THAT THE AFFORDABLE CARE

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ACT HAS TAKEN US A STEP FORWARD

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TOWARDS ENSURING HEALTHCARE

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COVERAGE FOR ALL AMERICANS.

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AND AT LEAST AT HEARTLAND WE ARE

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GOING TO MAKE SURE THE GAINS ARE

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NOT LOST.

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>> DIANA RICKERT IF THE

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PRESIDENT-ELECT COMES UP WITH A

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PLAN THAT INCLUDES COVERAGE

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FOREPEOPLE WITH PREEXISTING

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CONDITIONS AND 26 YEARS OR

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YOUNGER BEING CONTINUED COVERAGE

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ENTER THEIR PARENTS I'M PROGRAM,

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PARENTS' INSURANCE, WOULD THAT

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BE SATISFACTORY TO YOU?

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I MEAN TO THE POSITION YOU

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REPRESENT?

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>> SURE.

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WELL, I THINK THE QUESTION

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REALLY IS:  WHY WOULD THERE BE

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COVERAGE FOR THE PREEXISTING

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CONDITIONS UP UNTIL AGE 26

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BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT SAYS THAT

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INSURANCE COMPANIES HAVE TO

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PROVIDE THIS?

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OR BECAUSE THE MARKET DECIDED

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THERE IS AN APPETITE AMONG THE

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PUBLIC FOR THIS.

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WHAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IS

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ACTUALLY BEFORE OBAMACARE WAS

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IMPLEMENTED UNITED HEALTHCARE

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WAS OFFERING COVERAGE IN 25

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STATES TO PEOPLE WHO HAD

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PREEXISTING CONDITIONS.

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EVEN THOUGH THE MARKET AND THE

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HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY WAS

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NOT PERFECT IT WAS TRYING TO

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MOVE TO SOLVE IT.

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SO SHOULD PEOPLE WITH

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PREEXISTING CONDITIONS BE ABLE

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TO GET HEALTH INSURANCE

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COVERAGE?

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YES THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO IN

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MANY CASES BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE

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THE GOVERNMENT MANDATING THAT

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THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT AND THE

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PRIVATE COMPANIES NEED TO SUPPLY

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IT AND THE SAME RISK UP TO 26 IF

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HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES OR

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EMPLOYERS DECIDE THEY WANT TO

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COVER YOUR KID UNTIL THEY ARE 26

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OR 56, IT SHOULD BE THE

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MARKETPLACE NOT THE GOVERNMENT.

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>> IF THE NEW PLAN WERE TO

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INCLUDE THOSE PROVISIONS WOULD

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YOU CONSIDER THAT A BETRAYAL?

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>> IT WOULD BE DISAPPOINTING

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BECAUSE THE PROBLEM WITH THE LAW

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IS THE GOVERNMENT IS TOO

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INVOLVED.

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THE PROBLEMS WE ARE TRYING TO

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SOLVE WERE CAUSED BY THE

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GOVERNMENT.

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ADDING THE GOVERNMENT IN MORE

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AND MORE LAYERS IS NOT THE

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PROBLEM IT SELDOM IS WE NEED TO

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GET THE GOVERNMENT TO BACK OFF.

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>> DANIEL RABBITT MORE THAN 20

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MILLION PEOPLE HAVE COVERAGE AND

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100,000 SIGNED UP THE DAY AFTER

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THE ELECTION.

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WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM?

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>> WELL, FIRST, JUST TO RESPOND

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TO DIANA.

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I THINK IT'S MISLEADING TO SAY

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ALL OF THE PROBLEMS OF THE

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SYSTEM ARE CAUSED BY GOVERNMENT

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INTERFERE REPS.

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THE MARKET WAS SPEAKING BEFORE

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THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND

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MILLIONS OF PEOPLE LOST THEIR

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COVERAGE WHEN THEY GOT SICK OR

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DENIED COVERAGE OR CHARGED

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EXORBINANT PREMIUMS IF THEY

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APPLIED RATHER THAN GETTING

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INSURANCE THROUGH THEIR

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EMPLOYER.

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I DON'T KNOW THAT THE HEALTHCARE

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SYSTEM IS SETUP LIKE A

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MARKETPLACE FOR YOUR iPHONE

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WHERE THE MARKETPLACE WILL

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RESPOND TO CONSUMER NEEDS IN THE

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SAME WAY.

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THAT IS WHY THE GOVERNMENT HAS

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STEPPED IN TO PROVIDE MEDICARE

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COVERAGE FOR THE ELDERLY BECAUSE

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THEY WERE STRUGGLING TO OBTAIN

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COVERAGE PRIOR TO THAT.

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AND THEY STEPPED IN HERE TO

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PROVIDE COVERAGE TO PEOPLE WHO

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COULD NOT GET IT THROUGH OTHER

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MEANS PRIOR TO THE AFFORDABLE

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CARE ACT.

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>> WHAT HAPPENS TO THE FOLKS NOW

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WHO HAVE SIGNED UP?

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>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE LAW

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OF THE LAND.

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LIKE YOU SAID 100,000 PEOPLE

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TRIED TO SIGN UP THE DAY AFTER

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THE ELECTION AND ALL INDICATIONS

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IS THAT DEMAND CONTINUES TO BE

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HIGHER THAN EXPECTED FOR THIS

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TIME OF OPEN ENROLLMENT.

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FIRST, I WOULD SAY IF YOU NEED

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COVERAGE THROUGH THE AFFORDABLE

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CARE ACT, THROUGH THE

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MARKETPLACE OR GET COVERED

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ILLINOIS GO AND SIGN UP.

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OPEN ENROLLMENT IS GOING ON

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RIGHT NOW.

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IF YOU SIGN UP BY DECEMBER 15TH

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YOUR COVERAGE YOU HAVE UNTIL

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JANUARY 31 TO SIGN UP.

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IF THINGS GO AS PRESIDENT-ELECT

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TRUMP HAS SAID HE WANTS THEM TO

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GO AND THE FINANCIAL SUBSIDIES

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AND THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE

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LAW THAT PROVIDE COVERAGE ARE

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RESCINDED, THEN I THINK A LOT OF

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THE 20 MILLION PEOPLE WILL BE IN

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A TOUGH SPOT AND THEIR

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POLITICIANS MIGHT HEAR FROM

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THEM.

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>> DIANA RICKERT WHAT WOULD

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HAPPEN TO THE 20 MILLION PEOPLE?

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>> I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING

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IS TO LOOK AT HOW CAN WE LESSEN

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THE GOVERNMENT'S ROLE IN THE

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HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY AND ALLOW

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PEOPLE TO PURCHASE HEALTHCARE

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ACROSS STATE LINES AND PURCHASE

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THAT WOULD INCREASE YOUR OPTIONS

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50 TIMES OVER AND ALLOW THE

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MARKETPLACE TO START OFFERING

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PEOPLE DIFFERENT PLANS.

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RIGHT NOW YOU SEE MOSTLY HEALTH

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INSURANCE COMPANIES PULLING OUT

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AND HEALTH INSURERS PULLING OUT

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BECAUSE THEY CANNOT DEAL WITH

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OBAMACARE AND THE REGULATIONS

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THAT COME WITH IT.

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>> IS YOUR POSITION THAT THE

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MARKETPLACE WOULD RESPOND

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SOMEHOW TO THE 20 MILLION PEOPLE

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WHO SIGNED UP FOR THE AFFORDABLE

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CARE ACT?

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>> ABSOLUTELY.

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I THINK THAT THEY WOULD.

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AND THERE WOULD BE YOU KNOW A

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LOT OF PEOPLE HAD TO SIGN UP

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THROUGH THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT

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FOR MEDICAID OR THE EXCHANGES

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BECAUSE THEIR PLANS WERE BEING

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CANCELED DUE TO THE LAW.

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I HAVE A FRIEND WHO HAD A BABY

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AND HER HEALTHCARE PLAN HAS BEEN

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CHANGED CANCELED THREE TIMES IN

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THE LAST THREE YEARS.

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SO EVERY YEAR SHE HAS NO SENSE

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OF WHAT KIND OF HEALTHCARE SHE

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WILL HAVE.

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A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE OBTAINING

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THE COVERAGE BECAUSE THE PLANS

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THEY HAD.

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THE KEY IS THAT YOU CANNOT

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TINKER AROUND THE MARGINS YOU

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HAVE TO PULLBACK THE GOVERNMENT

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THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THE

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MARKETPLACE WILL BE ABLE TO STEP

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UP.

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>> DANIEL RABBITT DO YOU AGREE

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THAT SOMEHOW THE MARKETPLACE

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WILL PROVIDE FOR THE 20 MILLION

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PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE INSURANCE

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PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE

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FOR THEM?

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>> NO; NO I DO NOT AGREE.

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IN ORDER TO ASSESS THE

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AFFORDABLE CARE ACT'S SUCCESS

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YOU HAVE TO COMMON PEAR IT TO

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THE WORLD WE HAD BEFORE THE LAW

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WAS PASSED 50 MILLION PEOPLE

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WERE UNINSURED AND THE INDIANA

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SURED RATE WAS 15% AND NOW THAT

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THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT HAS BEEN

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IN PLACE FOR THREE YEARS, ONE

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MILLION ADDITIONAL PEOPLE GAINED

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COVERAGE HERE IN ILLINOIS AND

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THE UNINSURED RATE IS 5% THAT

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DOES NOT SEEM LIKE THE

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GOVERNMENT MEDDLING.

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I WORRY THAT WITHOUT THE

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PROTECTIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN

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THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT MANY OF

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THOSE PEOPLE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO

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GAIN COVERAGE AND WE'VE SEEN

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THAT.

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WE SERVE A LOT OF DISADVANTAGED

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PEOPLE PEOPLE EXPERIENCING

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HOMELESSNESS AND THEY DID NOT

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HAVE COVERAGE AND THE

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MARKETPLACE WAS NOT RUSHING TO

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COVER THEM.

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>> DO YOU BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT

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HAS ANY ROLE IN PROVIDING

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INSURANCE?

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>> THE ROLE SHOULD BE MINIMAL

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AND MOST OF THE RESPONSIBILITY

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SHOULD BE DELEGATED BACK TO THE

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STATES.

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AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE

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PREMISE OF THE LAW WAS IT WAS

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YOUR HEALTH PREMIUMS WILL GO

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DOWN BY 2500 THAT HAS NOT

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HAPPENED.

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PREMIUMS ARE GOING UP EVERY

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YEAR.

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AND IF YOU LIKE YOUR DOCTOR YOU

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CAN KEEP IT.

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BY THAT MEASURE OBAMACARE FAILED

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ITSELF.