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YOU.

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>> PARIS, THANK YOU.

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>> CHICAGO IS THE ONLY SCHOOL

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DISTRICT IN THE STATE THAT HAS

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AN APPOINTED SCHOOL BOARD.

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A POLICY PUT IN PLACE WHILE

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RICHARD M. DALEY WAS MAYOR.

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THE ILLINOIS HOUSE

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OVERWHELMINGLY PASSED A MEASURE

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THAT BO ALLOW VOTERS TO ELECT A

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21-MEMBER CHICAGO SCHOOL BOARD.

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UNLIKE MAYOR RAHM EMANUEL, LORI

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LIGHTFOOT SUPPORTS AN ELECTED

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SCHOOL BOARD BUT CALLS A

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21-MEMBER BOARD UNWIELDY AND

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SAYS IT IS A NONSTARTER.

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HERE ARE JESSE SHARKEY, THE

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PRESIDENT OF THE CHICAGO

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TEACHERS' UNION.

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AND RUFUS WILLIAMS, THE FORM

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PRESIDENT OF THE CHICAGO BOARD

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OF EDUCATION AND NOW PRESIDENT

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AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF

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BBF FAMILY SERVICES FORMERLY

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KNOWN AS BETTER BOYS FOUNDATION.

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THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

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>> CHICAGO IS THE ONLY CITY WITH

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AN APPOINTED SCHOOL BOARD IN THE

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STATE.

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LET'S START WITH THE BENEFITS OF

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AN APPOINTED BOARD.

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RUFUS WILLIAMS WHAT ARE SOME OF

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THE BENEFITS?

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>> ONE SINCE CHICAGO HAS HAD AN

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APPOINTED SCHOOL BOARD WE HAVE

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SEEN INCREASES IN STUDENT

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ACHIEVEMENT.

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WE KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR

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WHAT TAKES PLACE IN CHICAGO

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PUBLIC SCHOOLS IT'S THE MAYOR.

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AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE ARE

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CONCERNED ABOUT THAT TAKES PLACE

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IN THE SCHOOLS WE KNOW WHO TO

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HOLD ACCOUNTABLE.

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SINCE THE MAYOR HAS HAD CHARGE

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OF THE SCHOOLS WE HAVE SEEN A

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DRAMATIC INCREASE IN GRADUATION

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RATES.

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WE HAVE SEEN A DRAMATIC INCREASE

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IN COLLEGE GOING RATES.

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96% OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS AROUND

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THE COUNTRY DO WORSE THAN

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CHICAGO PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN

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ELEVATING CHILDREN IN A

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FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.

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IN CHICAGO THIRD-8TH GRADE THEY

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INCREASE THEIR ACHIEVEMENT FOR

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SIX YEARS IN A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.

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SO ALL THOSE THINGS WHILE THERE

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ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT MAY

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FACTOR INTO THAT HAVING THE

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ACCOUNTABILITY AND HAVING THIS

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INSTITUTION, THE LARGEST IN

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CHICAGO, A $6 BILLION

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INSTITUTION BE RESPONSIBLE TO

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THE MAYOR, WHERE THE MAYOR CAN

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PULL IN ALL THE SERVICES THE

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PARKS, PUBLIC SAFETY,

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TRANSPORTATION, ALL THOSE THINGS

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THAT WRAP AROUND INSURING THAT

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CHILDREN ARE BETTER, FALLS RIGHT

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WITHIN THAT.

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HAVING AN APPOINTED BOARD AND

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HAVING THE MAYOR RESPONSIBLE FOR

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THAT CERTAINLY IS A BENEFIT TO

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AN APPOINTED SCHOOL BOARD.

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>> JESSE SHARKEY DO YOU SEE ANY

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BENEFIT TO AN APPOINTED SCHOOL

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BOARD?

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>> I WOULD SAY THE FAILURES OF

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THE APPOINTED SCHOOL BOARD AND

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MAYORAL CONTROL ARE THE REASON

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WHY THERE'S SO MUCH POLITICAL

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SUPPORT BEHIND AN ELECTED BOARD.

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I CAN LOOK AT A LEGACY OF USING

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PROBATION, A PENAL TERM TO TALK

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ABOUT SCHOOLS WITH TEST SCORES

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LOW.

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AND SCHOOL CLOSINGS NOT JUST THE

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50 SCHOOLS RAM CLOSED IT WAS

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RAUM CLOSED.

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RAHM AND NOW IT'S 22%

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BESIDE A SET OF POLICIES WHICH

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TARGETED PEOPLE WITH MORE

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EXPERIENCE.

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ALL THESE THINGS ARE DRIVEN BY

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AN APPOINTED BOARD IN A

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SITUATION WHERE THEY WERE

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UNPOPULAR WITH THE PEOPLE WHO

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THE SCHOOLS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE

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SERVING.

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AND THE SCHOOL BOARD DID NOT

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LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE AND CHANGE

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THE POLICIES AND THE RESULT IS A

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POLITICAL GROUND SWELL A

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REVOLUTION AGAINST THE IDEA OF

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AN APPOINTED BOARD.

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>> THAT IS WHAT YOU FIND WRONG

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WITH THE APPOINTED BOARD.

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AND WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS TO AN

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ELECTED BOARD?

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>> TO ME, DEMOCRACY GIVES THE

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PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY ARE MOST

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DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THE

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SCHOOLS, PARENTS MEMBERS OF OUR

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COMMUNITY A DIRECT SAY IN

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CHOOSING WHO GETS TO RUN THE

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SCHOOL BOARD AND THE SCHOOLS

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MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THE

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SCHOOLS.
>> RUFUS WILLIAMS DO YOU SEE ANY

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BENEFIT TO AN ELECTED SCHOOL

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BOARD?

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>> I THINK DEMOCRACY WORKS AS IT

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IS.

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DEMOCRACY WORKS BECAUSE WE ELECT

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A MAYOR AND THE MAYOR IS

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RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SCHOOLS.

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SO THE ISSUE THE CONCERN WITH AN

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ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD IS TO

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INFUSE MONEY AND POLITICS INTO

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OUR CHILDREN'S EDUCATION.

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RECOGNIZING THAT THERE ARE OFTEN

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SPECIAL INTERESTS THAT COME WITH

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THAT SEEMS TO BE GOING IN WRONG

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DIRECTION.

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WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT IS WHAT

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HAPPENS TO CHILDREN AND WHAT WE

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SEE HAPPENING ARE CONTINUED

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GAINS UNDER MAYORAL CONTROL.

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THERE IS NO REASON TO TRY AND

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FIX WHAT IS NOT BROKEN.

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WHAT WE'RE SEEING ARE GAINS.

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GAINS AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL

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AND WE'RE SEEING GAINS AT THE

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HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL AND A CLOSING

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OF THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP IN

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CHICAGO GREATER THAN ANY OTHER

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DISTRICT IN THE STATE OF

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ILLINOIS.

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>> AND THE HOUSE PASSED THE BILL

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110-2 TO REPLACE THE APPOINTED

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BOARD WITH 20 ELECTED MEMBERS

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PLUS A PRESIDENT AND MAYOR-ELECT

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LORI LIGHTFOOT IS NOT IN FAVOR

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OF THAT CALLING 21 MEMBERS

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UNWIELDY.

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WHAT DO YOU THINK?

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>> I THINK WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS

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THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE DOING

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BETTER.

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I THINK 21 BETTER WE HAVE SEVEN

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NOW.

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HAVING 21 COMING FROM ALL THE

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PLACES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND

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OF INTEREST WOULD BE SERVED BY

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HAVING THAT MANY PEOPLE.

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IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHAT WE HAVE

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CURRENTLY AND WHAT WE'VE HAD

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CHICAGO HAS NEVER HAD AN ELECTED

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SCHOOL BOARD.

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THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS ALWAYS BEEN

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APPOINTED TO CHANGE THAT AS IT'S

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WORKING, JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO

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MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.

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>> JESSE SHARKEY, 21?

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>> NUMBER ONE IT IS A QUESTION

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OF WHO IS --

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ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE

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INTERESTS OF DEVELOPERS, THE

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FINANCIERS THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE

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DONE WELL IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO

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AND HAVE SET SCHOOL POLICY TO

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PRODUCE WHAT THEY WANT?

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OR THE INTEREST OF PARENTS AND

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PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT

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DON'T WANT TO SEE THEIR SCHOOLS

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BE CLOSED AND DON'T WANT TO SEE

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RESOURCES SENT OUT OF THE

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SCHOOLS AND SENT TO TIF

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DISTRICTS.
I THINK PEOPLE WOULD BE WELL

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SERVED BY AN EWILL BED SCHOOL

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BOARD.

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AND THE BESIDES OF THE

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DELEGATION THAT REPRESENTS

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CHICAGO IN THE HOUSE OF

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REPRESENTATIVES IN SPRINGFIELD

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WHICH IS 19 PEOPLE.

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WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SIZE OF

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A DISTRICT REPRESENTATION OF AN

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ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD THAT

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SOMEONE COULD KNOCK DOORS AND

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WALK HAVE A RELATIONSHIP TO A

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NEIGHBORHOOD.

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WITH THE WEST SIDE BE

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REPRESENTED BY SOMEONE ON AN

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ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD.

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WE WANT THE ANSWER TO THAT TO BE

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YES.

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>> AS RUFUS WILLIAMS MENTIONS HE

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FEELS IT WOULD BREED THAT

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CULTURE OF POLITICS AND MONEY DO

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YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE THE CASE

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UNDER AN ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD?

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>> I THINK THE CULTURAL POLITICS

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AND MONEY IS WELL ENTRENCHED IN

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AN APPOINTED SCHOOL BOARD.

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YOU HAVE DAVIDVIE TALLY WHO MADE

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$600 MILLION WORTH OF TOXIC

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SWAPS AND MADE A HUGE AMOUNT OF

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MONEY FOR THE BANKING INDUSTRY

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THAT HE CAME OUT OF.

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HOW IS THAT NOT INFUSED WITH

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POLITICS?

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ARTY DUNCAN, THE C.E.O. OF THE

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SCHOOLS.

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THIS IS A PERSON WHO CLOSED OVER

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100 SCHOOLS THAT HE WAS BUILDING

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100 PRIVATELY MANAGED CHARTER

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SCHOOLS AT THE SAME TIME THAT

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CHICAGO'S POPULATION WAS GOING

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DOWN?

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YOU CAN CROW ABOUT STUDENT

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ACHIEVEMENT ON TEST SCORES AND

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WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THAT IS EVERY

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SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE COUNTRY

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HAS SEEN TEST SCORES GOING UP

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BUT YOU SHOULD MEASURE EVERYONE

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NOT KICK 10,000 PEOPLE A YEAR

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OUT AND SEE THEM GO AND MEASURE

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THE TEST SCORES OF THE PEOPLE

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WHO REMAIN.

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THE PARENTS, THE STUDENTS AND

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THE TEACHERS NEED THE CREDIT AND

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THEY DON'T WANT --

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THEY WANT AN ELECTED SCHOOL

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BOARD.

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>> WHAT ABOUT A HYBRID BOARD?

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>> I WANT TO COMMENT TO THE

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POINT THAT JESSE MADE THE

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RESEARCHERS FROM STANFORD AND

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THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO VERSE

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OF ILLINOIS ON SCHOOL RESEARCH

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THAT SHARED HOW THE CHILDREN

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WERE ACHIEVING AND IT WAS NOT

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ABOUT THE CHILDREN REMOVED.

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AROUND ANY WAS A C.E.O. OF THE

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SCHOOLS AND WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL

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OF IT YOU CANNOT POINT TO ONE

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AND SAY THIS IS BAD BECAUSE IN

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FACT, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER

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OF SCHOOL BOARD LEADERS WHO HAVE

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BEEN APPOINTED AND WE TIP TO SEE

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THE INCREASES --

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CONTINUE TO SEE THE INCREASES IN

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THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

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AND I SAY ABOUT THE HYBRID IS

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THIS.

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WHAT WE HAVE WORKS.

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WE KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE.

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WHEN WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE

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SCHOOLS WHETHER THE ISSUE IS

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CLOSINGS OR ANYTHING ELSE, THE

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ISSUE IS THE SUPERINTENDENT OF

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SCHOOLS WE KNOW WHO TO HOLD

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ACCOUNTABLE.

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WE HOLD THE MAYOR ACCOUNTABLE

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AND THE MAYOR SHOULD HAVE THE

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RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT.

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>> JESSE SHARKEY HYBRIDS?

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>> I THINK THE KEY ISSUE THAT WE

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NEED TO DEAL WITH IS HOW TO GET

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DEMOCRACY IN OUR SCHOOLS.

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AND TO THAT I THINK YOU HAVE TO

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VOTE.

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YOU KNOW, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE

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BRINGING THE CONSULTING GROUP TO

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TELL SURE YEAH THE C.E.O. IS

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APPOINTED BUT THE C.E.O. IS

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APPOINTED BY AN APPOINTED BOARD.

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THE BOSTON CONSULTING GROUP

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COMES IN AND TELLS FORREST

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CLAYPOOL HOW TO DESIGN A

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PROCEDURE TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM

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GETTING SPECIAL ED SERVICES.

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THEY ARE OUTRAGEOUS AND BEING

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DONE BY AN APPOINTED BOARD

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INSULATED FROM DIRECT

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ACCOUNTABILITY.

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SURE, WE ELECT A MAYOR BUT THE

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MAYOR'S ELECTION IMMOBILIZES

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TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND

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IT'S HARD FOR A NORMAL PARENT TO

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FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE DIRECT

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CONTROL HOW THEIR CHILD IS BEING

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EDUCATED BUT YOU CAN VOTE FOR

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THE MAYOR EVERY FOUR YEARS.

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>> IN THE LAST ELECTION WE HAD

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33% TURNOUT.

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DO YOU THINK VOTER TURNOUT WOULD

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BE HIGHER IF WE WERE VOTING FOR

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AN ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD?

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>> THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS LOS

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ANGELES SPENT $17 MILLION TO TRY

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AND AN ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD AND

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THE TURNOUT WAS LESS THAN 10%.

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FOR SCHOOL BOARD ELECTIONS

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AROUND THE COUNTRY THE TURNOUT

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IS LESS THAN 10%.

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A COUPLE MONTHS AGO FIVE MAYORS

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CAME TO CHICAGO TO TALK ABOUT

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HOW TO REDUCE VIOLENCE IN THEIR

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CITIES AND WHAT THEY DID TO

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REDUCE VIOLENCE.

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THE ONE THAT STANDS OUT IN THAT

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CONVERSATION IS WASHINGTON D.C.,

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WHO TALKED ABOUT THE FIRST THING

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THAT HE DID WAS GETTING CONTROL

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OVER THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE THAT

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WAS THE MECHANISM HE WAS ABLE TO

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USE TO IMPROVE ACHIEVEMENT AND

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HELP TO BRING TOGETHER RESOURCES

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AND TO REDUCE VIOLENCE AS WELL
