DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU.

 

>> TONY, THANK YOU.

 

TO EDDIE ARRUZA WITH ANOTHER OF

 

THE DECLARED CANDIDATES OF THE

 

GOVERNOR OF ILLINOIS.

 

>> PHIL, AMONG THE SEVEN

 

CANDIDATES THAT AUNITED STATES

 

NOD A RUN FOR GOVERNOR, A FEW

 

ARE LITTLE KNOWN OUTSIDE THEIR

 

PROFESSIONAL CIRCLESES AND THAT

 

IS THE CASE WITH THE MADISON

 

COUNTY SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS

 

BOB DAIBER.

 

Mr. BOB DAIBER TAUGHT HIGH

 

SCHOOL FOR THREE DECADES AND

 

SERVED ON THE BOARD OF MADISON

 

COUNTY LOCATED DOWN STATE ON THE

 

MISSISSIPPI RIVER NEAR ST.

 

LOUIS.

 

AND BOB DAIBER JOINS US TO TELL

 

US WHY HE WANTS WHAT MIGHT BE

 

THE MOST CHALLENGING JOB IN THE

 

ILLINOIS PUBLIC SECTOR.

 

WELCOME TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."

 

NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE.

 

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

 

I ENJOY VISITING THE CITY AND

 

WAS DELIGHTED TO BE ON YOUR

 

PROGRAM.

 

>> WE ARE DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU

 

HERE.

 

YOU ARE A KNOWN QUANTITY IN THE

 

SOUTHWESTERN PART OF THE STATE

 

BUT HERE IN THE NORTHEASTERN

 

ILLINOIS AREA, I DO NOT THINK

 

YOU ARE WELL-KNOWN.

 

TELL OUR VIEWERS MORE ABOUT

 

YOURSELF.

 

>> WELL, I AM A LIFELONG

 

RESIDENT OF MADISON COUNTY.

 

AND DURING THE TIME THERE IN MY

 

ADULT LIFE I WAS A CLASSROOM

 

TEACHER.

 

I TAUGHT CAREER AND TECHNICAL

 

EDUCATION TO STUDENTS FOR 28

 

YEARS HELPING THEM DEVELOP SKILL

 

SETS FOR THE WORKFORCE AND LIVE

 

PRODUCTIVE LIVES.

 

THE LAST 10 YEARS OF MY LIFE,

 

I'VE BEEN A REGIONAL

 

SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS.

 

I HAVE 13 SCHOOL DISTRICTS ABOUT

 

50,000 STUDENTS AND ONE OF MY

 

DUTIES IS I MANAGE A SAFE SCHOOL

 

TO DEAL WITH AT RISK YOUTH.

 

PROFESSIONALLY THAT IS WHAT MY

 

CURRENT STATUS IS.

 

I'M MARRIED IN MY 25TH YEAR OF

 

MARRIAGE AND I'M PROUD OF MY

 

FAMILY.

 

I HAVE TWO GIRL AND BOYS AATTEND

 

UNIVERSITY AND I HAVE A

 

SUPPORTIVE FAMILY WHICH ENABLES

 

ME TO DO THIS.

 

>> AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST

 

TIME THAT YOU'VE TRIED TO MAKE

 

IT TO SPRINGFIELD.

 

YOU HAVE RUN FOR LEGISLATOR,

 

THREE TIMES AND LOST.

 

IN 92, 94 AND 98.

 

WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN

 

MAKE IT THIS TIME TO THE HIGHEST

 

SEAT IN ILLINOIS GOVERNMENT?

 

>> WELL, I LEARNED A LOT IN

 

THOSE THREE RACES THAT PREPARED

 

ME FOR THIS CHALLENGE.

 

AND DEVELOPED A LOT OF POLITICAL

 

RELATIONSHIPS.

 

AND WHEN I WON IN 2002 TO THE

 

COUNTY BOARD A WISE MAN SAID IN

 

A COFFEE SHOP HE GOES ALL THE

 

GUYS FORGOT YOU LOST THREE

 

RACES.

 

WE DON'T LOOK AT OUR LOSSES BUT

 

THE SUCCESS WE HAVE HAD AND THE

 

NUMBER OF RACES THAT WE'VE WON.

 

AND I'VE BUILT A STRONG

 

CONTINGENCY IN MY REGION AND

 

WORKING TO BUILD IT STATE-WIDE.

 

I WAS ELECTED TO BE PRESIDENT OF

 

THE REGIONAL SUPERINTENDENTS IN

 

2010.

 

AND I HAVE A NETWORK STATE-WIDE

 

THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE ASSISTING

 

ME IN MY CAMPAIGN.

 

AND SO WE SEE A PATHWAY TO

 

VICTORY HERE FOR OURSELVES AS WE

 

CONTINUE TO BUILD OUR VOLUNTEER

 

BASE.

 

>> WHAT HAS PREPARED YOU TO

 

BECOME GOVERNOR OF THIS STATE,

 

ESPECIALLY AT THIS TIME, WHEN

 

IT'S IN SUCH DIRE FISCAL

 

STRAITS?

 

>> WELL, IN THE TIME IN WHICH I

 

WAS A CLASSROOM TEACHER, I ALSO

 

SERVED AS A VILLAGE TRUSTEE AND

 

SERVED AS A TOWNSHIP SUPERVISOR

 

AND SERVED AS A COUNTY BOARD

 

MEMBER AND SERVED COUNTY-WIDE AS

 

AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

 

AND EACH OF THOSE CAP YOUTIES

 

YOU --

 

CAP I IT IS YOU LEARN ABOUT

 

GOVERNING.

 

AND GOVERNING IS AN ART AND PART

 

OF THAT IS TO COLLABORATE WITH

 

PEOPLE AND UNDERSTAND COMPROMISE

 

AND UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, HOW YOU

 

PRESENT INFORMATION TO

 

INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY FIND

 

ACCEPTABLE.

 

THAT, I THINK, IS A KEY THING

 

THAT A GOVERNOR IN A STATE HAS

 

TO HAVE.

 

ADDITIONALLY WHEN YOU ARE

 

INVOLVED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT,

 

YOU BECOME THE DIGESTIVE PART OF

 

THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.

 

YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THAT

 

LEGISLATION AFFECTS LOCAL

 

PEOPLE.

 

YOU UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT THAT

 

IT HAS WHEN A GOVERNOR WOULD

 

VETO A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT

 

MAY BENEFIT RESIDENTS.

 

SO THOSE ARE SOME WAYS IN WHICH

 

I'VE PREPARED MYSELF AND WHY I

 

BELIEVE MY PARTICULAR SKILLS

 

WOULD BE VERY GOOD FOR THE STATE

 

AT THIS TIME.

 

>> WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO START

 

TACKLING THE FISCAL PROBLEMS?

 

>> WELL, THE FIRST THING IS

 

IMMEDIATELY WE HAVE TO BRING

 

STABILITY TO THE STATE.

 

WE HAVE A FINITE AMOUNT OF

 

REVENUE AND WE HAVE A REVENUE

 

PROBLEM IN THE STATE.

 

BUT THE $10 BILLION OF BACKLOGS

 

OF BILLS NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE

 

OF.

 

AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT AN AVENUE

 

IN WHICH THESE COULD BE BONDED

 

OUT.

 

AND BOND OUT THE DEBT.

 

TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF INTEREST

 

THAT TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING DAILY

 

IN THE STATE.

 

WE ARE PAYING $10 MILLION A DAY

 

OF INTEREST.

 

YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY 365 DAYS IN

 

A YEAR AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE

 

ARE LITERALLY WASTING TAXPAYERS

 

MONEY ON INTEREST.

 

>> ISN'T BOND TO GO OUT KICKING

 

THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD?

 

>> IT IS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME

 

UNTIL YOU GENERATE ENOUGH

 

REVENUE AND YOU DO OTHER

 

EFFICIENCIES TO PAY THE DEBT

 

OFF.

 

THERE IS NO IMMEDIATE SHORT FIX

 

TO THIS DEBT.

 

BUT, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO LOOK

 

AT A RESTRUCTURING OUR TAX

 

SYSTEM.

 

AND LOOK AT A PROGRESSIVE INCOME

 

TAX WE ARE ONE OF FOUR STATES

 

THAT HAVE A FLAT TAX.

 

AND OUR TAXATION SYSTEM IS NOT

 

WORKING.

 

>> A PROGRESSIVE TAX PUTS MORE

 

BURDEN ON THE WEALTHIER IN THE

 

STATE.

 

BUT DOES EVERYONE HAVE TO PAY

 

MORE IN ORDER TO GET OUT OF THIS

 

MESS?

 

>> WELL, I BELIEVE THERE'S GOING

 

TO HAVE TO BE A SHORT-TERM

 

REVENUE FIX FOR THIS UNTIL THAT

 

PROGRESSIVE TAX CAN BE PUT INTO

 

PLACE.

 

>> WHAT IS THAT?

 

>> RETURNING TO 5% INCOME TAX.

 

>> THE INCOME TAX THAT WAS --

 

THAT GOVERNOR QUINN AND THE

 

LEGISLATURE ENACTED?

 

>> RIGHT.

 

I THINK YOU CAN SEE WHAT

 

HAPPENED WHEN THAT WENT AWAY.

 

OUR DEFICIT HAS INCREASED FROM

 

ABOUT 3.5 BILLION UP TO NEAR 11

 

BILLION TODAY.

 

AND THAT IS ASTRONOMICAL.

 

IN TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS TIME.

 

>> AS SOMEONE WHO WILL

 

EVENTUALLY GET A PUBLIC PENSION

 

BECAUSE OF YOUR WORK NOT ONLY AS

 

A SCHOOLTEACHER AND NOW AS THE

 

SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS, WHAT

 

DO YOU FAVOR IN TERMS OF PENSION

 

REFORM?

 

>> I BELIEVED THIS IN PENSION

 

REFORM THAT YOU SHOULD GET ONE

 

PENSION FREE.

 

PEOPLE WITH MULTIPLE PENSIONS

 

SHOULD PAY INTO THE SYSTEM AND

 

PAY INTO SOME FORM OF A SHARE

 

THAT HELPS THOSE PENSION

 

SYSTEMS.

 

BUT I BELIEVE EVERYBODY GETS ONE

 

PENSION FREE.

 

I'M COMPLETELY IN REGARDS TO

 

PENSION ABUSE, I THINK WE HAVE

 

TO REVIEW PEOPLE WHO ARE ABUSING

 

THE PENSION SYSTEM.

 

WE HAVE TO SUPPORT THE PENSION

 

SYSTEM TO MAKE IT WHOLE.

 

AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE PAID ON

 

TIME.

 

>> DO YOU FAVOR CONSTITUTIONAL

 

CHANGES TO THE PENSION SYSTEM IN

 

THE STATE?

 

>> WELL, I THINK THE ONE THAT WE

 

PERHAPS NEED TO LOOK AT IS

 

PARTIALLY DEALS WITH THE PART

 

THAT PAYERS PAY IN.

 

THOSE LIKE MYSELF WHO ARE

 

PARTICIPATING AND WHAT PORTION

 

OF THAT SHOULD THEY PAY AND WHAT

 

PORTION SHOULD THE STATE PAY

 

BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE

 

ARE IN TROUBLE.

 

>> AND YOU HAVE A FAMILY FARM IN

 

YOUR FAMILY FOR FOUR

 

GENERATIONS.

 

AND AGRICULTURE IS STILL A

 

VIABLE INDUSTRY IN THIS STATE?

 

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

 

>> IS THAT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS

 

TO BE EXPANDED UPON IN ORDER TO

 

SHORE UP ILLINOIS' FINANCES?

 

>> I THINK EACH AND EVERY YEAR

 

AGRICULTURE BRINGS A GREAT DEAL

 

OF NEW REVENUE TO THE STATE.

 

IT'S THE SOMEWHAT OF AN ECONOMIC

 

ENGINE FOR THE STATE.

 

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO

 

CONTINUE TO MARKET AND IT IS A

 

KEY PART OF THE ILLINOIS

 

MARKETING PLAN THAT I WILL

 

PROMOTE TO SUPPORT ILLINOIS

 

FARMERS AND SUPPORT ALL THE

 

RELATED BUSINESSES IN ILLINOIS

 

THAT RELY UPON ILLINOIS BEING A

 

RICH AGRICULTURAL STATE.

 

>> YOU STILL OWN YOURS AND OTHER

 

FARMERS STILL OWN THEIR FAMILY

 

PLOTS BUT HAVEN'T A LOT BEEN

 

BOUGHT UP BY BIG CORPORATIONS?

 

>> EACH GENERATION AS

 

INDIVIDUALS RETIRE, YES, YOU ARE

 

CORRECT.

 

I HAVE A SLOGAN I TELL MY BOYS.

 

DO NOT SELL GRANDPA'S FARM

 

BECAUSE YOU WILL NEVER GET IT

 

BACK.

 

YOU KNOW, AGRICULTURAL LAND

 

CONTINUES TO INCREASE IN VALUE

 

IN THIS STATE.

 

UPWARDS NOW TO $15,000 AN ACRE

 

IN SOME PARTS.

 

SO IT'S VERY TEMPTING TO LET GO

 

OF IT BUT THE REVENUE FROM

 

AGRICULTURE IS STILL PROFITABLE

 

AND MANY FAMILIES WISH TO HOLD

 

ON TO THE HOMESTEADS.

 

>> YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT IN WHAT IS

 

LARGELY A REPUBLICAN AREA OF THE

 

STATE.

 

YOU ARE NOT A KNOWN GUARANTEE

 

HERE.

 

YOU ARE AGAINST BILLIONAIRES

 

THAT ARE RUNNING INCLUDING THE

 

INCUMBENT.

 

HOW DO YOU PLAN TO MAKE INROADS

 

NOT ONLY IN YOUR PART OF THE

 

STATE AS A DEMOCRAT BUT IN THESE

 

PARTS AND AGAINST THESE WEALTHY

 

CANDIDATES?

 

>> WE CAMPAIGN EVERYDAY.

 

THAT IS WHAT WE DO.

 

WE CAMPAIGN EVERYDAY.

 

WE CONTINUE TO INTRODUCE

 

OURSELVES.

 

WE STAY FOCUSED ON THE ISSUES

 

THAT WE WANT TO SHARE WITH

 

CONSTITUENTS.

 

AND CONTINUE TO BUILD OUR

 

VOLUNTEER BASE.

 

>> BUT AGAIN YOU ARE UP AGAINST

 

MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN CAMPAIGN

 

MONEY.

 

JB PRITZKER PUT A LOT OF MONEY

 

INTO HIS FUND AND THE GOVERNOR

 

PUT IN $25 MILLION.

 

AT LAST COUNT YOU HAD ABOUT

 

$37,000 IN YOUR FUND.

 

DO YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN

 

COMPETE?

 

>> I THINK THEY WILL SPEND A LOT

 

OF MONEY TO BE AN EVERYDAY GUY

 

LIKE ME.

 

>> BOB DAIBER NICE TO HAVE YOU