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>> IF YOU ARE FEELING ANGRY AT

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STATE LAWMAKERS, YOU ARE NOT

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ALONE.

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A NEW SURVEY BY THE AARP OF

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ILLINOIS SHOWS THAT STATE VOTERS

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HAVE LITTLE CONFIDENCE AND A LOT

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OF ANGER FOR STATE LAWMAKERS.

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IT'S EXPRESSING FRUSTRATION WITH

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THE FISCAL CRISIS AND HALF SAID

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THEY CONSIDERED MOVING IN THE

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LAST YEAR.

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JOINING US TO SHARE DETAILS OF

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WHAT THE SURVEY SAYS IS ROSANNA

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MARQUEZ PRESIDENT OF AARP

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ILLINOIS AND WELCOME TO "CHICAGO

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TONIGHT."

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THIS WAS A STATE-WIDE SURVEY OF

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VOTERS ABOVE THE AGE OF 25.

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AARP WHY NOT VOTERS ABOVE THE

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AGE OF 50?

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>> WE LEARNED IT IS A CONCERN

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THIS ISSUE IS A CONCERN TO ALL

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FAMILIES ALL VOTERS ALL PEOPLE

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IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS.

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TO GIVE AS MUCH POWER AND FORCE

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TO THE VOICE OF THOSE FRUSTRATED

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VOTERS WE WANTED TO CAPTURE THE

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ENTIRETY OF THE VOTING PUBLIC IN

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ILLINOIS.

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THEY ARE ALL CONCERNED NOT JUST

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THE 50 PLUS.

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>> AND THERE'S ANGER IF ONE

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LOOKS AT WHAT YOU FOUND ANGER

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OVER ILLINOIS FINANCES ON A

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SCALE OF 1-5 WE FIND THAT 37%

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SAY THEY ARE AT NUMBER 5

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EXTREMELY ANGRY AND 28% SAY THEY

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ARE AT AN ANGER LEVEL OF 4.

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WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU?

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>> IT'S TELLING US A COUPLE OF

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THINGS.

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ONE IS THEY ARE TIRED OF NOT

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HAVING THE STATE'S FINANCES

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ADDRESSED BY OUR ELECTED

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OFFICIALS AND BY CANDIDATES.

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THEY ARE NOT SEEING PROGRESS.

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WE TIMELY HAD A STATE BUDGET

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THIS YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE

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THAT LAWMAKERS DECLARED VICTORY.

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AND VOTERS SAW BEYOND THAT.

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THEY KNOW THERE IS A LOT MORE

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THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO GET THE

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STATE ON FISCAL HEALTH AND THEY

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ARE HEARING NO TALK ABOUT THE

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SOLUTIONS THEY ARE NOT SEEING

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SIGNS OF PROGRESS.

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THEIR CONFIDENCE LEVEL AND

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INDEED ANGER LEVEL IS HIGH.

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THEY SEE THE PROBLEMS LOOMING

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AHEAD AND NO SOLUTIONS BEING

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TALKED ABOUT.

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AND IT IS AN ELECTION SEASON AND

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HEARING THE RHETORIC AND ALL

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SORTS OF ANYTHING BUT WHAT IS ON

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PEOPLE'S MINDS WHICH IS THE

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STATE'S FISCAL HEALTH.

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>> AND YOU TOOK HAD A QUESTION

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REGARDING THE GENERAL MOOD OF

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VOTERS AND LET'S LOOK AT THAT

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REGARDING THE GENERAL DIRECTION

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THE STATE IS TAKING.

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71% SAY THE STATE IS ON THE

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WRONG TRACK.

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56% BELIEVE THE ECONOMY IS

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WORSE.

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GLOOM NUMBERS.

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>> IT IS.

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THEY ARE VOTING HALF ARE TALKING

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ABOUT LEAVING THE STATE.

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ALMOST THREE QUARTERS SAID THEY

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KNOW OF SOMEONE WHO TALKED ABOUT

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LEAVING THE STATE AND THIS IS

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NOT JUST TALK PEOPLE ARE VOTING

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WITH THEIR FEET FOR THE SECOND

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YEAR IN A ROW.

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ILLINOIS IS ONLY BEHIND NEW

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JERSEY IN THE NUMBER OF

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OUTMIGRATION OF RESIDENTS AND

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COLLEGE BOUND STUDENTS THEY ARE

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LEAVING AND TELL US THE REASONS

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THEY ARE LEAVING ARE IN ORDER,

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HIGH TAXES, GOVERNMENT

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MISMANAGEMENT AND THE HIGH COST

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OF LIVING.

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THIS IS THE STUFF THEY ARE

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WORRYING ABOUT AND THE REASON

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THEY ARE THREATENING AND INDEED

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LEAVING THE STATE.

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>> ASIDE FROM THE STATE'S

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GENERAL ECONOMIC HEALTH THERE IS

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ALSO STRONG FEEDBACK ABOUT

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PEOPLE'S INDIVIDUAL FINANCIAL

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CIRCUMSTANCES.

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AND LET'S LOOK AT THAT.

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THE PERSONAL ECONOMIC SITUATIONS

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SINCE 2015 ACCORDING TO THE

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PEOPLE YOU SURVEYED, 39% SAY

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THAT IT IS GOTTEN WORSE.

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AND ABOUT 39% STAYED THE SAME.

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SO BASICALLY ONLY 20% OR SO SAY

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WHAT IT'S GOTTEN BETTER FOR

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THEM?

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1-5 PEOPLE.

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>> THAT IS RIGHT.

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SO THEY SEE THEY HAVE THAT GREAT

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CONCERN THEY HAVE THAT CONCERN

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AND THEY SEE THINGS ARE GOING TO

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GET WORSE.

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AND THE SURVEY TALKED ABOUT

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POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS THAT PEOPLE

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MAY BE WILLING TO TOLERATE AND

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IT'S ALL CLEAR TO OUR VOTERS AND

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THOSE WHO RESPONDED TO THE

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SURVEY THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT

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OF PAIN.

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PAIN ON ALL SIDES.

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AND THE LONGER IT TAKES TO FIX

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THIS FISCAL MESS, THE MORE PAIN

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THERE'S GOING TO BE.

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SO THINGS ARE GETTING NO BETTER

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OR WORSE, AND THEY SEE WORSE

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TIMES AHEAD GIVEN THE DIRECTION

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THE STATE IS CURRENTLY GOING.

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>> YOU ELUDED TO THIS BUT THE

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FACT THAT SO MUCH HAS BEEN MADE

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IN THE POLITICAL ARENA ABOUT

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PEOPLE LEAVING ILLINOIS AND YET,

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THE STATISTICS THAT YOU COME UP

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WITH, BEAR THAT OUT AND JUST TO

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REITERATE, HALF OF THE PEOPLE

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THAT YOU SURVEYED ARE

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CONSIDERING LEAVING ILLINOIS AND

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THREE QUARTERS KNOW SOMEONE WHO

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IS.

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AND AS FOR THE REASONS PEOPLE

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ARE LEAVING ILLINOIS AS YOU

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MENTIONED NUMBER ONE, HIGH

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TAXES, NUMBER TWO, GOVERNMENT

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MISMANAGEMENT, AND NUMBER THREE,

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THE HIGH COST OF LIVING.

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DID YOU HAVE ANY ANECDOTAL

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EVIDENCE?

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WERE THERE ANY PARTICULAR

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COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE MADE?

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>> THEY DID, WELL, THIS WAS MORE

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DATA BUT WE HAVE HAD AS PART OF

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THE ENOUGH IS ENOUGH CAMPAIGN

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THAT WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING FOR

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THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE

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HAD HEARINGS THROUGHOUT THE

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STATE WHERE WE'VE HEARD A NUMBER

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OF INDIVIDUAL STORIES.

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AND OFTEN WHAT IT WILL BE IS I

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GOT MY LAST PROPERTY TAX BILL

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AND THAT BROKE MY BACK IT WAS

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TIME TO MOVE.

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AND BY THE WAY, IT'S MUCH BETTER

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HERE IN INDIANA.

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WE HAD A COUPLE WHO TALKED ABOUT

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THIS.

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IT'S SO MUCH BETTER WE THINK OUR

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FRIENDS SHOULD JOIN US HERE

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BECAUSE THE LAST STRAW WAS

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SOMETHING LIKE THEIR LAST

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PROPERTY TAX BILL AND A NUMBER

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OF US ARE GETTING THE NEXT

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PROPERTY TAX BILL AND IT WILL

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NOT BE A GREAT SURPRISE IF IT

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FORCES A FEW OTHER PEOPLE TO

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MAKE THAT DIFFICULT CHOICE TO

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LEAVE THIS OTHERWISE WONDERFUL

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STATE.

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>> YOU ASKED PEOPLE WHAT THEIR

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IDEAS WERE AND THE MOST

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ACCEPTABLE SOLUTIONS MIGHT BE.

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AND WHAT DID YOU FIND?

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>> WELL, ON THE A LOTTED OF

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DIVIDED OPINIONS.

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TWO WAYS TO LOOK.

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WHERE CAN WE SAVE COSTS AND

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WHERE CAN WE RAISE MORE MONEY.

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A LOT OF OPINIONS ON THE COST

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SIDE.

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ON THE REVENUE SIDE, MAYBE

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SURPRISINGLY BECAUSE AGAIN IT'S

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PAIN.

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THERE ARE AT THREE SOLUTIONS

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THAT DREW A MAJORITY OF

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SUPPORTERS.

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THE FIRST ONE WAS TO MOVE TO A

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GRADUATED INCOME TAX SYSTEM.

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>> WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A

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CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.

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>> IT WOULD.

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THERE ARE HOOPS THAT HAVE TO GET

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THROUGH BUT VOTERS ARE SAYING WE

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KNOW IT WILL TAKE WORK AND WE

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KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A

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COMPLICATED BUT YOU NEED TO

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START MOVING ON THIS.

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>> AND TWO AND THREE?

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>> TWO WAS TO EXPAND LEGALIZED

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GAMBLING IN ILLINOIS.

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AGAIN, NONE OF THESE ARE THINGS

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PEOPLE ARE CRAZY ABOUT BUT THEY

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ARE WILLING TO TOLERATE.

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AND THE THIRD IS TO INCREASE THE

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INCOME TAX ON THOSE EARNING $1