WEBVTT 00:15.533 --> 00:19.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:10% THE? 00:15.666 --> 00:21.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% THE REMAIN IN MEXICO POLICY 00:17.900 --> 00:22.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% MAKES ASYLUM SEEKERS WAIT FOR 00:19.400 --> 00:22.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THEIR U.S. IMMIGRATION HEARING 00:21.033 --> 00:24.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% ON THE MEXICAN SIDE OF THE 00:22.466 --> 00:27.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:17.5% BORDER. 00:22.833 --> 00:29.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THIS IS A POLICY PRESIDENT JOE 00:24.100 --> 00:30.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% BIDEN ENDED ON HIS FIRST DAY IN 00:27.700 --> 00:31.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% OFFICE AND NOW HIS 00:29.166 --> 00:36.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% ADMINISTRATION FACES LEGAL 00:30.166 --> 00:41.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% CHALLENGES AFTER BEING SUED BY 00:31.233 --> 00:45.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% TEXAS AND MISSOURI FOR REMOVING 00:36.266 --> 00:48.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% IT HERE TO DISCUSS THIS 00:41.466 --> 00:57.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% POTENTIAL IMPACT ARE SUSAN 00:45.966 --> 00:58.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% GZESH, AND HELL LANE THAT OLEA, 00:48.966 --> 01:00.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% A DIRECTOR FOR ALIANZA AMERICAS 00:57.066 --> 01:01.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE 00:58.966 --> 01:03.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% REGIONAL PRESIDENT OF CENTRAL 01:00.733 --> 01:05.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% AMERICA. 01:01.366 --> 01:07.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% BIDEN ORIGINALLY DECLARED THIS 01:03.400 --> 01:09.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% TRUMP IRA POLICY AS INHUMANE. 01:05.600 --> 01:13.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WALK US THROUGH BRIEFLY, IF YOU 01:07.266 --> 01:14.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% CAN, WHY HE'S RESUMING IT. 01:09.033 --> 01:17.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> WELL, HE'S NOT RESUMING IT 01:13.833 --> 01:25.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% EXACTLY VOLLEY. 01:14.633 --> 01:28.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% A DISTRICT COURT IN TEXAS IS IN 01:17.633 --> 01:32.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% AN UNUSUAL LOOP. 01:25.866 --> 01:34.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% >> THEY ORDERED THAT THE BIDEN 01:28.266 --> 01:35.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% ADMINISTRATION REINSTATE THIS 01:32.733 --> 01:36.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% AND THE DISTRICT COURT UPHELD 01:34.200 --> 01:38.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THE SUPREME COURT ORDER SO THE 01:35.333 --> 01:44.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAS TO REI 01:36.966 --> 01:46.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% STATE IN GOOD FAITH IS WHAT THE 01:38.666 --> 01:47.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% TERMS OF THE ORDER ARE BUT 01:44.633 --> 01:48.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THERE'S ALSO ALMOST A PING-PONG 01:46.400 --> 01:52.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% MATCH GOING ON ACROSS THE BOARD 01:47.233 --> 01:58.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:35% WE ARE MEXICO. 01:48.600 --> 02:01.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% BECAUSE IT REALLY IS A PIECE OF 01:52.100 --> 02:02.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% FOREIGN POLICY. 01:58.466 --> 02:03.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> ABSOLUTELY, HELENA OLEA, YOU 02:01.066 --> 02:05.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% HAVE VISITED. 02:02.066 --> 02:07.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WHAT IMPACT HAVE YOU SEEN THIS 02:03.600 --> 02:10.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% HAVE ON THE LIVES OF MIGRANTS AT 02:05.333 --> 02:12.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% THE BORDER? 02:07.466 --> 02:13.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% >> WELL, SOCIAL SERVICES, THE 02:10.233 --> 02:15.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% MVP CREATES REFUGEES CABS IN 02:12.800 --> 02:20.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% MEXICO FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE 02:13.866 --> 02:21.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% SEEKING PROTECTION IN THE U.S. 02:15.300 --> 02:21.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% AND SENT BACK TO WORK IN MEXICO. 02:20.366 --> 02:22.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% THESE CONDITIONS ARE NOT SAFE 02:21.100 --> 02:24.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:27.5% CONDITIONS. 02:21.500 --> 02:28.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% THERE HAS BEEN A NUMBER OF 02:22.766 --> 02:30.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% REPORTS INDICATING THE NUMBER OF 02:24.133 --> 02:33.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE KILLED, AND 02:28.066 --> 02:34.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% WOMEN WHO ARE RAPED IF THEY ARE 02:30.600 --> 02:35.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WAITING AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE 02:33.466 --> 02:43.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% BORDER, LIVING IN UNSANITARY, 02:34.766 --> 02:44.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% UNSATISFY CONDITIONS. 02:35.333 --> 02:46.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% SO THERE IS NO REASON WHY -- 02:43.400 --> 02:47.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% UNSAFE CONDITIONS. 02:44.800 --> 02:48.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> THIS POLICY HINGES ON THE 02:46.600 --> 02:49.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% APPROVAL OF THE MEXICAN 02:47.833 --> 02:52.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% GOVERNMENT, SUSAN, WHAT CAN YOU 02:48.700 --> 02:53.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% TELL US RIGHT NOW ABOUT THE 02:49.700 --> 02:54.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% STATE OF THE MEXICO/U.S. 02:52.033 --> 02:55.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% RELATIONS? 02:53.000 --> 02:57.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% >> WELL, WE SAW DURING THE TRUMP 02:54.200 --> 02:58.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% ADMINISTRATION THAT FOLKS WAS 02:55.366 --> 02:59.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% WILLING TO DO PRETTY MUCH 02:57.033 --> 02:59.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% ANYTHING THE U.S. ASKED UNDER 02:58.300 --> 03:01.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% THE THREAT OF ECONOMIC 02:59.033 --> 03:02.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% SANCTIONS. 02:59.400 --> 03:04.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE FROM THIS 03:01.166 --> 03:07.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% SIDE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE BUT 03:02.633 --> 03:08.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% I'VE SPOKEN WITH MEXICAN 03:04.000 --> 03:10.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% COLLEAGUES WHO ARE MIGRANT 03:07.133 --> 03:12.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% REFUGEE ADVOCATES AND THEY ARE 03:08.866 --> 03:12.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% FILED A LAWSUIT URGING THE 03:10.633 --> 03:14.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% MEXICO GOVERNMENT NOT TO 03:12.066 --> 03:15.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:25% COOPERATE. 03:12.433 --> 03:17.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% MEXICO SAID ITS COOPERATION IS 03:14.766 --> 03:19.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% BASED ON THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE, 03:15.833 --> 03:20.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO COME BACK 03:17.533 --> 03:22.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% TO MEXICO, THAT THEY WILL HAVE 03:19.133 --> 03:24.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% COUNSEL REPRESENTING THEM IN THE 03:20.900 --> 03:25.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% HEARINGS IN THE THE U.S. 03:22.466 --> 03:27.766 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SO THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE A PLAY 03:24.100 --> 03:28.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% FOR SOME KIND OF DECENCY IN THE 03:25.466 --> 03:30.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% WAY THESE ASYLUM SEEKERS ARE 03:27.766 --> 03:33.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:20% TREATED. 03:28.100 --> 03:35.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% BUT A LIST OF ABOUT 83 U.S. 03:30.800 --> 03:36.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% LEGAL SERVICES ORGANIZATIONS 03:33.933 --> 03:38.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:47.5% HAVE TOLD THE BIDEN 03:35.333 --> 03:38.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY'RE NOT 03:36.266 --> 03:41.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% GOING TO COOPERATE AND PROVIDE 03:38.133 --> 03:43.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% COUNSEL TO PEOPLE. 03:38.900 --> 03:45.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% LAWYERS WERE IN AS MUCH DANGER 03:41.433 --> 03:48.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ALMOST AS THE MIGRANTS IN THESE 03:43.966 --> 03:49.366 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% UNREGULATED INFORMAL CAMPS ON 03:45.600 --> 03:51.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% THE MEXICO'S SIDE OF THE BORDER 03:48.033 --> 03:51.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% FOR THEM TO MEET WITH CLIENTS 03:49.366 --> 03:54.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT THEIR 03:51.600 --> 03:55.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:15% CASES. 03:51.900 --> 03:57.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% DUE PROCESS IS NON-EXIST PENALTY 03:54.166 --> 03:58.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% AND FOR A TEXAS DISTRICT COURT 03:55.266 --> 04:00.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% JUDGE TO BASICALLY ORDER THE 03:57.300 --> 04:01.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% MEXICO GOVERNMENT TO DO 03:58.400 --> 04:03.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% SOMETHING IS OFFENSIVE TO 04:00.833 --> 04:06.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% MEXICO'S SOVEREIGNTY. 04:01.866 --> 04:06.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% SO THE ADVOCACY COMMUNITY WITHIN 04:03.100 --> 04:12.066 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% MEXICO IS TRYING TO ASSIGN THEIR 04:06.033 --> 04:13.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% OWN GOVERNMENT AND SAY THAT 04:06.966 --> 04:15.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% WE'RE NOT GOING TO COOPERATE 04:12.066 --> 04:16.866 align:start position:10% line:74% size:52.5% BECAUSE OF OUTRAGE OF 04:13.533 --> 04:18.100 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% INTERNATIONAL LAW. 04:15.100 --> 04:20.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% IT'S NICE TO KNOW THEIR EFFORTS 04:16.866 --> 04:22.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER ARE 04:18.100 --> 04:24.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% TESTING THE LACK OF FUNDAMENTAL 04:20.466 --> 04:26.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% DECENCY AND ILLEGALITY OF WHAT 04:22.500 --> 04:29.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THE MVP PROGRAM ACTUALLY IS. 04:24.233 --> 04:30.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> AND HELENA, HOW DOES THIS 04:26.833 --> 04:31.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% POLICY AFFECT THE LIKELIHOOD OF 04:29.133 --> 04:33.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% ASYLUM SEEKERS HAVING THEIR 04:30.333 --> 04:35.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% CASES HEARD IN THE U.S. IF THIS 04:31.833 --> 04:37.533 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% IS REIMPLEMENTED? 04:33.733 --> 04:40.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% >> WELL, WE HAVE SEEN IN THE 04:35.300 --> 04:42.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% PAST THAT THE POLICY CREATES ALL 04:37.533 --> 04:44.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% TYPE OF VIOLATIONS TO DUE 04:40.200 --> 04:45.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% PROCESS RIGHTS IF THEY ARE ABLE 04:42.500 --> 04:46.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% TO FIND COUNSEL AND RECEIVE THE 04:44.800 --> 04:48.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% PSYCHOLOGICAL THERAPY AND 04:45.433 --> 04:55.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% TREATMENT THAT THEY NEED, THEY 04:46.333 --> 04:56.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:40% ARE NOT ABLE TO. 04:48.633 --> 04:58.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% IN MANY CASES THEY ARE DENIED 04:55.833 --> 04:59.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:32.5% FUNDAMENTALS. 04:56.400 --> 05:01.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% SINCE THE POLICIES HAVE BEEN 04:58.733 --> 05:02.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% REIMPLEMENTED WE CAN FORESEE 04:59.733 --> 05:04.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE 05:01.200 --> 05:12.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% LEGAL REPRESENTATION, THAT 05:02.266 --> 05:20.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THERE'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, 05:04.266 --> 05:24.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% UNDERMIND THE BASIC RIGHTS OF 05:12.800 --> 05:27.000 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% THOSE WAITING AND AND THEN 05:20.933 --> 05:27.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DIVE INTO 05:24.400 --> 05:28.500 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% THE PROCESS AND AVOID THE 05:27.000 --> 05:30.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% VIOLENCE AND -- 05:27.966 --> 05:32.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:42.5% [ INDISCERNIBLE ] 05:28.500 --> 05:36.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% LESS THAN 1% AND THOSE ARE THE 05:30.966 --> 05:36.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% STATISTICS OF THE PROBLEM THAT 05:32.800 --> 05:39.233 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WE'VE BEEN RUNNING INTO IN THE 05:36.166 --> 05:40.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:12.5% PAST. 05:36.466 --> 05:41.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% THIS IS NO ASYLUM PROGRAM. 05:39.233 --> 05:43.933 align:start position:10% line:74% size:57.5% >> SOME PRETTY HORRIBLE 05:40.166 --> 05:44.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% CONDITIONS AND OBVIOUSLY SOUNDS 05:41.566 --> 05:46.400 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% LIKE DIMINISHES CHANCES. 05:43.933 --> 05:47.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% WHAT CHANGES IN POLICY ARE 05:44.900 --> 05:48.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% NEEDED IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE 05:46.400 --> 05:50.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% CONCERNS OF THE IMMIGRATION 05:47.200 --> 05:51.566 align:start position:10% line:74% size:55% LAWYERS AND ADVOCATES? 05:48.800 --> 05:53.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% >> AND THE REFUGEES REALLY, THE 05:50.700 --> 05:54.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:37.5% MOST IMPORTANT. 05:51.566 --> 05:56.666 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% BUT DURING THE PERIOD WHEN THE 05:53.266 --> 05:59.900 align:start position:10% line:74% size:60% BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WAS 05:54.900 --> 06:01.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:62.5% STARTING TO DISMANTLE THE 05:56.666 --> 06:04.466 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% PROGRAM, THEY WERE ALLOWING -- I 05:59.900 --> 06:06.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% THINK IT'S UP TO 11,000 PEOPLE 06:01.433 --> 06:09.833 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% WHO HAD BEEN PART OF 68,000 06:04.466 --> 06:10.733 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% PEOPLE TO ALSO REMAIN IN MEXICO 06:06.966 --> 06:13.433 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% PROCEED INTO THE UNITED STATES 06:09.833 --> 06:14.333 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% UNDER CRIMINAL STATUS AND SOME 06:10.733 --> 06:15.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:67.5% OF THEM COME TO CHICAGO FOR 06:13.433 --> 06:17.033 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% EXAMPLE, THE NATIONAL JUSTICE 06:14.333 --> 06:20.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% CENTER, THAT ARE REPRESENTING 06:15.300 --> 06:21.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% THEM, SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE FULL 06:17.033 --> 06:23.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:65% AND FAIR HEARINGS ON THEIR 06:20.200 --> 06:24.266 align:start position:10% line:74% size:30% ASYLUM BOOK. 06:21.133 --> 06:26.133 align:start position:10% line:74% size:77.5% SO THERE'S A WAY TO TEST PEOPLE 06:23.200 --> 06:27.600 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% FOR COVID AT THE BORDER AND A 06:24.266 --> 06:28.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:75% WAY TO MONITOR THEM COMING IN. 06:26.133 --> 06:31.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% AND WHAT COMPARABLE HARM THE 06:27.600 --> 06:34.800 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% STATES OF TEXAS AND MISSOURI CAN 06:28.800 --> 06:35.166 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% BE PLEADING THAT COMPARES AT ALL 06:31.200 --> 06:36.200 align:start position:10% line:74% size:72.5% TO THE HARM SUFFERED BY THESE 06:34.800 --> 06:37.300 align:start position:10% line:74% size:22.5% FAMILIES? 06:35.166 --> 06:38.700 align:start position:10% line:74% size:80% I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS 06:36.200 --> 06:40.633 align:start position:10% line:74% size:70% IN THE MIND OF THE JUDGE WHO 06:37.300 --> 06:41.966 align:start position:10% line:74% size:45% ISSUED THAT ORDER.