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OFFICERS MUST ACTIVATE

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BODY-CAMERAS TO RECORD PURSUITS

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IN FULL AND PROHIBITS

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FOOT-PURSUITS STEMMING FROM

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MINOR TRAFFIC OFFENSES.

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AND JOINING US WITH THEIR TAKE

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ARE ROBERT BOIK FROM THE CHICAGO

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POLICE DEPARTMENT, HE IS THE

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EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE

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OF CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING AND

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REFORM.

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AREWA KAREN WINTERS A CO-CHAIR

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OF THE COMMUNITY WORKING GROUP

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THAT WAS ASSEMBLED TO PROVIDE

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COMMUNITY INPUT ON POLICE

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REFORM.

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RETIRED POLICE OFFICER RICHARD

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WOOTEN FOUNDER OF GATHERING

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POINT COMMUNITY COUNCIL AND

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NUSRAT CHOUDHURY LEGAL DIRECTOR

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AT THE A.C.L.U. OF ILLINOIS.

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WELCOME ALL OF YOU BACK TO

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"CHICAGO TONIGHT."

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ROBERT BOIK THE FIRST QUESTION I

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HAVE WHEN LOOKING AT THIS LIST

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OF RULES IT IS A LOT OF THINGS

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FOR OFFICERS TO KEEP IN MIND.

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LIKE A CHECKLIST IN A SITUATION

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THAT COULD BE HEAT OF THE

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MOMENT.

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HOW IS AN OFFICER ABLE TO GO

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THROUGH THESE THINGS WHEN

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DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT TO

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ENGAGE?

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>> ONE THING THAT POLICY

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PRIORITIZES IS NOT ONLY OFFICER

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SAFETY BUT SAFETY FOR THE

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COMMUNITY AS WELL.

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IT REALLY CREATES SEVERAL LINES

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FOR OFFICERS WHERE THEY HAVE TO

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WEIGH THE RISK OF ENGAGING IN

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THE PURSUIT WITH THE NEED TO

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APPREHEND THE OFFENDER.

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AND ENHANCES SUPERVISOR

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RESPONSIBILITIES SUCH THAT

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OFFICERS REALLY ARE TAKING

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DIRECTION ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS

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AND THAT, AGAIN, THAT IS

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DESIGNED AROUND ENHANCING

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SAFETY.

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>> AND NUSRAT CHOUDHURY THIS

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COMES IN THE WAKE OF THE TOLEDO

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AND THE ANTHONY ALVAREZ

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SHOOTINGS THAT CAME AFTER

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FOOT-PURSUITS.

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DO YOU THINK THE RULES HELP

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PREVENT FUTURE SITUATIONS LIKE

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ANTHONY ALVAREZ AND TOLEDO?

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>> THE RULES DON'T GO FAR

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ENOUGH.

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WE KNOW THAT CHICAGO HAS A

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PROBLEM WITH DEADLY

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FOOT-PURSUITS BORN OUT BY THE

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KILLINGS YOU MENTION AND YEARS

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OF DATA AND WHAT WE NEED A

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POLICY TO DO IS TO BE CLEAR AND

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EASY TO UNDERSTAND FOR OFFICERS

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TO REALLY GRASP AND IMPLEMENT IN

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REALTIME UNDER IMMENSE PRESSURE

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AND THIS POLICY IS VERY LONG.

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IT INCLUDES VAGUE LANGUAGE AND

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IT DOESN'T PUT UP CLEAR ENOUGH

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GUARDRAILS ESPECIALLY WITH

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RESPECT TO PROHIBITING

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FOOT-PURSUITS FOR MINOR

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OFFENSES.

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YOU REFERRED EARLIER CLASS A

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MISDEMEANORS BUT THERE ARE

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EXCEPTIONS FOR CLASS B AND C

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MISDEMEANORS IN THE POLICY AND

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IT'S WORTH UNDERSCORING THAT

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SOMETHING AS LOW AS GAMBLING

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POSSESSION OF ALCOHOL BY A

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MINOR, POSSESSION OF DRUG

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PARAPHERNALIA THOSE OFFENSES FOR

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WHICH A FOOT-PURSUIT WOULD BE

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PERMITTED UNDER THIS POLICY.

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>> YESTERDAY SUPERINTENDENT

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DAVID BROWN EMPHASIZED THAT HE

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FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO LISTEN

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TO THE COMMUNITY AND HERE IS A

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LITTLE BIT OF WHAT HE SAID.

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>> WE LIKELY WILL HEAR SOMETHING

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THAT WE DIDN'T THINK OF.

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AND WE WANT THE BENEFIT OF

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HEARING THAT FROM THE COMMUNITY

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THAT WE NEED TO INCLUDE IN THIS

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POLICY.

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IT'S WORTHWHILE.

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YOU WILL NEVER HEAR ME SAY

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ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY IS A BAD

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THING.

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THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE

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ENGAGED AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO

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HELP US BUILD TRUST.

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>> AREWA KAREN WINTERS DO YOU

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THINK THIS POLICY WAS A RESULT

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OF COMMUNITY INPUT?

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>> ABSOLUTELY.

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AND NOW I WANT TO SAY THIS

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PROBABLY STARTED PRIOR TO EVEN

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THE COALITION COMING FORWARD

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WITH THE CONSENT DECREE.

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BECAUSE HISTORICALLY THIS HAS

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BEEN HAPPENING OVER AND OVER AND

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OVER TIME AND TIME AGAIN IN

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BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES.

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SO I DEFINITELY THINK IT WAS

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FROM THE PEOPLE THE PRESSURE

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FROM THE PEOPLE TO NOT ONLY HAVE

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THE CONSENT DECREE BUT TO HAVE

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POLICE REFORM.

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BECAUSE IT IS VERY NECESSARY

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VERY NEEDED IN THIS CITY.

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SO IN THIS POLICY DOESN'T CUT

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IT.

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>> YOU ARE SAYING IT WAS NOT

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ENOUGH INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY

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AS THE SUPERINTENDENT SAYS HE

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WANTED TO LISTEN TO THE

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COMMUNITY.

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RICHARD WOOTEN, AS A FORMER COP

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I WILL PRESENT THIS QUESTION TO

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YOU HOW DO YOU GO THROUGH IN

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YOUR HEAD IS THIS A CLASS A

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MISDEMEANOR?

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IS THIS PERSON A THREAT TO THE

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COMMUNITY?

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A CHECKLIST IN A SITUATION THAT

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CAN BE HEATED?

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>> EXACTLY.

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THIS IS PUTTING MORE STRESS ON

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THE OFFICERS AND CAUSING THEM TO

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MAKE MORE MISTAKES.

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WHEN IS A GOOD TIME TO CHASE AND

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WHEN IS NOT A GOOD TIME IS GOING

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TO PUT THEIR LIVES FURER IN

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DANGER.

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I THINK THE POLICY SHOULD BE

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MORE SPECIFIC AND CLEAR AND

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ADDRESS WHAT THEY CAN CHASE FOR

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AND WHEN THEY CAN CHASE.

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BECAUSE WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH

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THE POLICY MYSELF, IT IS JUST SO

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WISHY WASHY AND LEAVES OUT A LOT

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OF ROOM FOR MUCH ERROR.

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>> ROBERT BOIK THERE ARE A LOT

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OF RESPONSES.

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YOU'VE HEARD THE CRITICISM NOT

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ENOUGH COMMUNITY INPUT, IT

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DOESN'T GO FAR ENOUGH, IT'S TOO

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VAGUE IN ITS LANGUAGE AND THAT

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IT COULD BE DANGEROUS FOR THE

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POLICE HAVING TO CONSIDER ALL

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THESE THINGS.

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YOUR RESPONSE TO THOSE ISSUES?

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>> SO I WANT TO START WITH

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COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BECAUSE

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IT'S JUST NOT TRUE TO SAY THIS

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POLICY WASN'T DEVELOPED WITH ANY

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COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

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MS.  WINTERS GROUP MET WITH US

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AND WE TALKED EXTENSIVELY WHAT

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SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN A

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FOOT-PURSUIT POLICY.

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AND I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT THE

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A.C.L.U. AND OTHERS ARE SEEKING

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SPECIAL TREATMENT WITH RESPECT

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TO ENGAGEMENT AND WHAT WE'VE PUT

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FORWARD IS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE

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PLAN, THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE

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PLAN THAT THE DEPARTMENT EVER

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ENGAGED IN TO GET FEEDBACK FROM

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THE COMMUNITY AND OUR OFFICERS

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INCLUDING A WEBINAR ON JUNE 1

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TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS ONE IN

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JUNE AND ONE IN JULY.

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THE POLICY IS OPEN NOW FOR

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PUBLIC COMMENT WE INVITE PUBLIC

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COMMENT FROM EVERYONE ACROSS THE

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CITY OF CHICAGO AND WHAT WE'RE

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HOPING TO DO IS TO HAVE BROAD

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COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND TO HEAR

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FROM EVERY COMMUNITY ACROSS THE

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CITY.

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WITH RESPECT TO THE POLICY

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ITSELF, AGAIN, IT PRIORITIZED

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OFFICER SAFETY.

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IT DOES CREATE A BRIGHT LINE AND

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CLEAR RESPONSIBILITIES FOR

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SUPERVISORS.

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>> AND NUSRAT CHOUDHURY THE

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POLICE DEPARTMENT THIS IS

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INTERIM THEY ARE STUDYING THIS

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AND WANTED TO GET SOMETHING OUT

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QUICKLY IN THE WAKE OF ANTHONY

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ALVAREZ AND TOLEDO.

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WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU

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BELIEVE SHOULD BE IN A PERMANENT

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POLICY?

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>> I THINK TO UNDERSCORE THAT

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OTHERS COULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE

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CHANCE TO GIVE INPUT AS

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DEVELOPING AN INTERIM POLICY

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MAKING THAT POINT CLEAR IT IS

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NOT ABOUT THE A.C.L.U. BUT FROM

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PEOPLE IN DIRECTLY IMPACTED

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COMMUNITIES.

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AND WHAT THE POLICY SHOULD

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INCLUDE THIS POLICY DOES NOT

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INCLUDE EARLY AND A CLEAR

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STATEMENT THAT FOOT-PURSUITS ARE

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EXTRAORDINARILY DANGEROUS.

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WE KNOW THE CITY HAS A PROBLEM

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WITH DEADLY FOOT-PURSUITS AND

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THAT IS NOT MADE CLEAR IN THE

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PURPOSE OF THE POLICY OR BUT

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WHAT WE GET INSTEAD WISHY WASHY

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STATEMENTS THAT LEAVE A LOT OF

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ROOM FOR OFFICER DISCRETION TO

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ENGAGE IN A FOOT-PURSUIT EVEN

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WHEN THERE ARE MINOR OFFENSES,

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EVEN IF THE CATEGORIES OF

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OFFENSES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN

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THE FOOT-PURSUIT AND THAT IS NOT

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THE CLEAR, EASY TO

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OPERATIONALIZE GUIDANCE THAT

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WILL RESTRICT WHAT HAS BEEN A

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DEADLY PRACTICE IN THE CITY OF

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CHICAGO FOR A LONGTIME.

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>> AND AREWA KAREN WINTERS

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COMMUNITY GROUPS DID SUGGEST

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DOZENS OF RECOMMENDATIONS MANY

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DID NOT MAKE IT IN HERE.

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WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE SHOULD MAKE

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IT INTO THIS POLICY THAT WAS

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LEFT OUT?

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>> I APPRECIATE RICHARD WOOTEN.

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I CANNOT SAY WE HAD AN EXTENSIVE

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CONVERSATION THEY DID INTRODUCE

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CONCEPTS BUT WE DIDN'T RECEIVE

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ANYTHING WRITTEN SO WE DIDN'T

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HAVE A CHANCE TO PROCESS AND GO

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THROUGH AND MAKE

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RECOMMENDATIONS.

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BUT IN 2019, THE COALITION DID

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SUBMIT THINGS.

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WHAT I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT IS

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THE PROHIBITIONS.

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I DIDN'T SEE PROHIBITIONS WITH

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IT AND ONE OF THEM FOR ME IS SO

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MANY OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE

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SHOT IN THEIR BACKS WHILE THEY

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ARE RUNNING AWAY, FLEEING, THEY

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SAY THAT THEY ARE A THREAT TO

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THE COMMUNITY BUT REALLY AT THAT

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INSTANCE THEY ARE ONLY A THREAT

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TO THEMSELVES HOW CAN POLICE

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OFFICERS ENGAGING THE THREAT

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WITHOUT KILLING THEM AND HARMING

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THEM?

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SO THAT IS I THINK SERVE AND

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PROTECT IN THE WORST CASE

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SCENARIOS WHERE THEY HAVE A

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WEAPON NOT HAVE A WEAPON IF THEY

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ARE NOT OPENLY SHOOTING AT

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ANYONE IN MOST CASES THEY ARE

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NOT THEY ARE RUNNING AWAY.

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CLIMBING FENCES AND THEY LOSE

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THEIR LIVES.

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I WANT TO SEE OUR POLICE

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DEPARTMENT ENGAGE WITH OUR YOUNG

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PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES WHERE

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EVERYONE CAN COME OUT SAFE.

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>> RICHARD WOOTEN HOW DO POLICE

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OFFICERS FEEL ABOUT

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FOOT-PURSUITS IN GENERAL?

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DO THEY FEEL THAT THEY CARRY A

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LOT OF RISK AND DANGER WITH

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THEM?

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WOULD THEY RATHER NOT ENGAGE IN

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A FOOT-PURSUIT?

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OR RATHER BE ABLE TO ENGAGE THAT

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WAY?

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>> YOU KNOW, FOOT-PURSUITS IS

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PART OF THE JOB AND WE

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UNDERSTAND THAT.

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AN AUGUST OF 192001 WE LOST A

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GREAT OFFICER FROM A

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FOOT-PURSUIT WHO WAS SHOT BY AN

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OFFENDER.

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BUT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT

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FOOT-PURSUITS SOMETIMES IS JUST

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NOT NECESSARY.

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YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE GAMBLING,

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IN A BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES

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THESE ARE MOST YOUR

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FOOT-PURSUITS.

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GAMBLING, SUSPENDED DRIVER'S

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LICENSE, DRINKING ON A PUBLIC

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WAY OR SOME OTHER MINOR INCIDENT

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WHERE YOU KNOW THE INDIVIDUAL IS

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GOING TO RETURN IN THAT AREA

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AGAIN THE NEXT DAY.

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WHY PURSUE HIM WHEN YOU KNOW

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THEY ARE GOING TO BE THERE.

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AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AN OFFICER

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SEES THE PARTICULAR CRIMES IN

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ITS ACT THEY BEGIN TO KICK IN

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AND THEY GO RUNNING.

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WHAT WE NEED IS A STATEMENT

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WITHIN THE POLICY THAT SAYS WE

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WILL NOT CHASE ANYONE UNLESS

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IT'S LIFE-THREATENING AND A

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CLASS A FELONY.

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YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THAT THERE

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SHOULD NOT BE FOOT-PURSUITS YOU

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PUT THE OFFICER IN DANGER AND

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THE COMMUNITY IN DANGER AND THE

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INDIVIDUAL THAT IS RUNNING IN

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DANGER BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT

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TO BE CAUGHT BY THE POLICE.

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>> AND POLICY MENTIONS THERE IS

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MORE TO COME ON THIS.

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THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A

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COMMUNITY REVIEW PROCESS AND

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COME OUT WITH MORE SPECIFIC

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PROPOSALS IN SEPTEMBER.

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OUR THANKS TO AREWA KAREN