1 00:00:04,700 --> 00:00:13,066 >> LESS THAN TWO WEEKS REMAIN 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:13,566 UNTIL EXELON SAYS IT WILL CLOSE 3 00:00:09,766 --> 00:00:15,400 A PAIR OF NUCLEAR PLANTS IN 4 00:00:13,066 --> 00:00:17,033 ILLINOIS. 5 00:00:13,566 --> 00:00:20,266 LEGISLATORS ARE WORKING TO KEEP 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:21,766 THEM OPEN. 7 00:00:17,033 --> 00:00:22,466 THERE IS NO CONCRETE PATH. 8 00:00:20,266 --> 00:00:24,866 AMANDA VINICKY JOINS US NOW WITH 9 00:00:21,766 --> 00:00:26,466 MORE. 10 00:00:22,466 --> 00:00:29,633 AMANDA ARE THEY AT LEAST CLOSE? 11 00:00:24,866 --> 00:00:31,766 >> PARIS, YOU DESCRIBED IT AS A 12 00:00:26,466 --> 00:00:33,766 SPARK AND THAT IS TRUE. 13 00:00:29,633 --> 00:00:37,366 ALBEIT A SMALL ONE WHILE MOST 14 00:00:31,766 --> 00:00:39,166 YOU WERE PROBABLY ASLEEP AT 1:00 15 00:00:33,766 --> 00:00:42,466 A.M., THE ILLINOIS SENATE PASSED 16 00:00:37,366 --> 00:00:43,533 A MASSIVE ENERGY BILL AND THAT 17 00:00:39,166 --> 00:00:45,300 IS MORE MORE. 18 00:00:42,466 --> 00:00:46,833 THAN THERE HAS BEEN. 19 00:00:43,533 --> 00:00:48,200 AND THIS MEASURE WILL HAVE 20 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:50,466 CUSTOMERS PAYING A CHARGE ON THE 21 00:00:46,833 --> 00:00:52,766 ELECTRIC BILL TO KEEP THE 22 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:54,966 NUCLEAR PLANTS OPEN BUT IT SETS 23 00:00:50,466 --> 00:00:56,433 TARGETS FOR MOVING ILLINOIS TO 24 00:00:52,766 --> 00:00:58,800 RELY SOLELY ON RENEWABLE ENERGY 25 00:00:54,966 --> 00:01:01,133 AND IT DOES MORE. 26 00:00:56,433 --> 00:01:01,566 >> THIS IS ABOUT EQUITY, THIS IS 27 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,166 ABOUT JOBS AND ECONOMIC 28 00:01:01,133 --> 00:01:04,800 OPPORTUNITY. 29 00:01:01,566 --> 00:01:06,600 THIS IS ABOUT SUPPORTING 30 00:01:03,166 --> 00:01:08,233 COMMUNITIES THAT ARE IN 31 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:09,933 TRANSITION RIGHT NOW AND ARE 32 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:11,500 ALREADY EXPERIENCING THE CLOSURE 33 00:01:08,233 --> 00:01:13,300 OF FOSSIL FUEL PLANTS NOT 34 00:01:09,933 --> 00:01:14,933 BECAUSE OF LEGISLATION BUT 35 00:01:11,500 --> 00:01:17,600 BECAUSE COAL AND OTHER DIRTY 36 00:01:13,300 --> 00:01:18,766 FOSSIL FUELS ARE BEING PUSHED 37 00:01:14,933 --> 00:01:22,333 OUT OF THE MARKET BECAUSE THEY 38 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:25,133 ARE UNCOMPETITIVE. 39 00:01:18,766 --> 00:01:28,000 >> LET'S UNFOLD THIS THIS 40 00:01:22,333 --> 00:01:29,866 OMNIBUS PACKAGE, EXELON SAYS THE 41 00:01:25,133 --> 00:01:33,800 PLANTS ARE LOSING MONEY SO 42 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:35,533 WITHOUT A SUBSIDY IT WILL SHUT 43 00:01:29,866 --> 00:01:37,433 THEM DOWN AND IN BYRON, IT WILL 44 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:39,166 COMBINE DEACTIVATING A GENERATOR 45 00:01:35,533 --> 00:01:41,733 SEPTEMBER 13TH AND THAT WOULD 46 00:01:37,433 --> 00:01:44,466 MEAN THE LOSS OF THOUSANDS OF 47 00:01:39,166 --> 00:01:45,666 JOBS AND COULD UNDERMINE 48 00:01:41,733 --> 00:01:46,900 ILLINOIS' CLIMATE GOALS BECAUSE 49 00:01:44,466 --> 00:01:48,633 ILLINOIS' NUCLEAR FLEET IS 50 00:01:45,666 --> 00:01:51,100 RESPONSIBLE FOR MORE THAN HALF 51 00:01:46,900 --> 00:01:54,266 OF ALL OF THE ENERGY PRODUCED IN 52 00:01:48,633 --> 00:01:56,600 THE STATE BUT ALSO, THE VAST 53 00:01:51,100 --> 00:01:58,000 MAJORITY OF CARBON FREE ENERGY. 54 00:01:54,266 --> 00:02:00,033 BOB GALLO DIRECTOR OF AARP 55 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:02,966 ILLINOIS SAYS CUSTOMERS SHOULD 56 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:05,266 NOT BE FOOTING THE BILL TO KEEP 57 00:02:00,033 --> 00:02:09,133 THESE PLANTS OPEN, AARP DID A 58 00:02:02,966 --> 00:02:11,266 STUDY AND IN IT ESTIMATES THAT 59 00:02:05,266 --> 00:02:13,900 IT WILL COST RATEPAYERS $14 60 00:02:09,133 --> 00:02:17,333 BILLION OVER THE NEXT DECADE. 61 00:02:11,266 --> 00:02:19,433 >> OUR CONCERN ALL ALONG HAS 62 00:02:13,900 --> 00:02:22,233 BEEN MAKING SURE THAT RATEPAYERS 63 00:02:17,333 --> 00:02:22,566 ARE REPRESENTED IN THESE 64 00:02:19,433 --> 00:02:25,133 CONVERSATIONS AND TO DATE THEY 65 00:02:22,233 --> 00:02:27,166 HAVEN'T. 66 00:02:22,566 --> 00:02:28,866 AND THERE'S SUCH A DEJA VU ALL 67 00:02:25,133 --> 00:02:31,066 OVER AGAIN ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON 68 00:02:27,166 --> 00:02:33,900 WITH ComEd AND EXELON. 69 00:02:28,866 --> 00:02:35,233 THIS IS LIKE A LET'S MAKE A DEAL 70 00:02:31,066 --> 00:02:37,400 WITH THE LEGISLATURE 71 00:02:33,900 --> 00:02:39,433 >> NOW, THAT IS IN REFERENCE TO 72 00:02:35,233 --> 00:02:41,533 THE LEGAL TROUBLE THAT EXELON 73 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:43,300 ComEd IS IN IN PART BECAUSE 74 00:02:39,433 --> 00:02:45,700 OF AN ALLEGED BRIBERY SCANDAL IN 75 00:02:41,533 --> 00:02:47,266 WHICH THE COMPANY WORKED TO PASS 76 00:02:43,300 --> 00:02:49,433 A LAW SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT 77 00:02:45,700 --> 00:02:49,766 SIMILARLY BAILED OUT NUCLEAR 78 00:02:47,266 --> 00:02:51,933 PLANTS IN CLINTON AND THE QUAD 79 00:02:49,433 --> 00:02:52,266 CITIES. 80 00:02:49,766 --> 00:02:54,866 BUT THIS IS FAR FROM THE ONLY 81 00:02:51,933 --> 00:02:57,533 HURDLE. 82 00:02:52,266 --> 00:03:00,366 A MAJOR OBSTACLE HAS BEEN OVER 83 00:02:54,866 --> 00:03:02,100 HOW AND WHEN ILLINOIS WILL SCALE 84 00:02:57,533 --> 00:03:04,166 DOWN COAL-FIRED POWER PLANTS. 85 00:03:00,366 --> 00:03:06,700 GOVERNOR J.B. PRITZKER AND 86 00:03:02,100 --> 00:03:08,400 ENVIRONMENTALISTS WANT ALL COAL 87 00:03:04,166 --> 00:03:11,033 PLANTS CLOSED BY THE YEAR 2045. 88 00:03:06,700 --> 00:03:12,200 AGAIN, ALL OF THEM. 89 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:14,233 THEY ALSO WANT ALL OF THESE 90 00:03:11,033 --> 00:03:15,300 PLANTS ESPECIALLY ONE THAT 91 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,700 OUTSIDE OF ST. LOUIS THAT HAS 92 00:03:14,233 --> 00:03:19,366 CONTRACTS WITH THE 93 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:22,266 MUNICIPALITIES INCLUDING 94 00:03:16,700 --> 00:03:23,100 NAPERVILLE TO HAVE TO RAMP DOWN 95 00:03:19,366 --> 00:03:24,466 PRODUCTION UNTIL THAT CLOSING 96 00:03:22,266 --> 00:03:26,300 DATE. 97 00:03:23,100 --> 00:03:27,733 >> ULTIMATELY, WE NEED TO PHASE 98 00:03:24,466 --> 00:03:30,066 OUT FOSSIL FUELS FROM OUR 99 00:03:26,300 --> 00:03:31,733 ECONOMY ALTOGETHER BUT WE HAVE 100 00:03:27,733 --> 00:03:34,833 TO MAKE EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS 101 00:03:30,066 --> 00:03:36,966 QUICKLY THIS IS TIME SENSITIVE. 102 00:03:31,733 --> 00:03:39,766 THE LONGER WE WAIT THE MORE TONS 103 00:03:34,833 --> 00:03:41,000 OF CARBON GO INTO THE 104 00:03:36,966 --> 00:03:43,000 ATMOSPHERE, THE MORE THE PLANET 105 00:03:39,766 --> 00:03:44,633 GETS HOTTER. 106 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,566 SO IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO HAVE A 107 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,100 DATE WHERE WE ARE GOING TO DO 108 00:03:44,633 --> 00:03:48,633 THIS IN THE FUTURE. 109 00:03:45,566 --> 00:03:50,300 WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE DATES BUT 110 00:03:47,100 --> 00:03:52,100 WE NEED TO START ACTING RIGHT 111 00:03:48,633 --> 00:03:54,366 NOW. 112 00:03:50,300 --> 00:03:56,033 >> BUT CRITICS INCLUDING 113 00:03:52,100 --> 00:03:57,733 LEGISLATORS FROM DOWN STATE SAY 114 00:03:54,366 --> 00:04:01,000 THAT PREMATURE TARGETS AND 115 00:03:56,033 --> 00:04:02,133 CLOSURE ALSO FORCE ILLINOIS TO 116 00:03:57,733 --> 00:04:03,666 IMPORT ENERGY FROM NEIGHBORING 117 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,066 STATES. 118 00:04:02,133 --> 00:04:06,666 >> AN ISSUE PRESS RELEASES THAT 119 00:04:03,666 --> 00:04:08,133 WILL BE THE TOUGHEST STATE IN 120 00:04:05,066 --> 00:04:09,300 THE UNION WE ARE GOING TO GET 121 00:04:06,666 --> 00:04:11,133 RID OF CARBON. 122 00:04:08,133 --> 00:04:11,466 REALLY? 123 00:04:09,300 --> 00:04:14,000 BECAUSE HERE IS WHAT IS GOING TO 124 00:04:11,133 --> 00:04:16,000 HAPPEN. 125 00:04:11,466 --> 00:04:18,133 DO YOU KNOW WHERE ALL THE 126 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:21,833 ELECTRONS WILL COME FROM? 127 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:24,166 THEY WILL GET BACKFILLED FROM 128 00:04:18,133 --> 00:04:26,433 INDIANA AND KENTUCKY WHICH ARE 129 00:04:21,833 --> 00:04:28,200 CARBON. 130 00:04:24,166 --> 00:04:31,466 >> THAT HE SAYS OR RISK ROLLING 131 00:04:26,433 --> 00:04:33,800 BROWNOUTS TO WHICH MICHAEL 132 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:36,033 HASTINGS HAD THIS RESPONSE. 133 00:04:31,466 --> 00:04:36,366 >> THAT'S SOME BOOGIE MAN TALK 134 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,600 IF YOU ARE RUNNING FOR POLITICAL 135 00:04:36,033 --> 00:04:40,600 OFFICE. 136 00:04:36,366 --> 00:04:42,400 THERE IS MECHANISMS IN THIS BILL 137 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:45,266 THAT WILL DETERMINE WHETHER OR 138 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:48,466 NOT THE BASE LOAD GENERATION FOR 139 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:48,933 THE STATE IS ADEQUATE ENOUGH TO 140 00:04:45,266 --> 00:04:50,566 MEET THE DEMANDS OF THE 141 00:04:48,466 --> 00:04:51,333 CONSUMERS. 142 00:04:48,933 --> 00:04:53,233 >> NOW, YOU HAVE OTHER 143 00:04:50,566 --> 00:04:55,433 LEGISLATORS OPPOSING SOMETHING 144 00:04:51,333 --> 00:04:57,033 THAT IS A GUIDING PRINCIPLE OF 145 00:04:53,233 --> 00:05:01,033 THIS ENDEAVOR AND THAT IS STATE 146 00:04:55,433 --> 00:05:01,833 SUPPORT, YES, TAXPAYER MONEY, 147 00:04:57,033 --> 00:05:03,433 FOR WIND AND SOLAR ENERGY 148 00:05:01,033 --> 00:05:04,700 COMPANIES. 149 00:05:01,833 --> 00:05:06,966 STATE SENATOR NEIL ANDERSON 150 00:05:03,433 --> 00:05:08,233 CALLS INEFFICIENT POWER SOURCES 151 00:05:04,700 --> 00:05:10,300 AND THE PRIORITY USED TO BE ON 152 00:05:06,966 --> 00:05:12,400 ILLINOIS GOING CARBON FREE AND 153 00:05:08,233 --> 00:05:13,666 NOW THE GOAL IS MOVING 154 00:05:10,300 --> 00:05:16,433 COMPLETELY TO WIND AND SOLAR. 155 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:20,000 THIS LEGISLATION DOES HAVE A 156 00:05:13,666 --> 00:05:22,366 TARGET OF MOVING ILLINOIS TO 157 00:05:16,433 --> 00:05:24,600 100% RENEWABLE ENERGY BY 2050. 158 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:26,266 >> WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS? 159 00:05:22,366 --> 00:05:27,700 IT'S BECAUSE ALL THE WIND AND 160 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:30,766 SOLAR AND INEFFICIENT POWER 161 00:05:26,266 --> 00:05:33,533 COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT ARE 162 00:05:27,700 --> 00:05:35,533 TRYING TO GET THEIR HAND IN THE 163 00:05:30,766 --> 00:05:38,133 TAXPAYER POT DON'T WANT NUCLEAR. 164 00:05:33,533 --> 00:05:38,600 THEY DON'T WANT NUCLEAR POWER 165 00:05:35,533 --> 00:05:39,600 THAT IS WHY WE'VE CHANGED THE 166 00:05:38,133 --> 00:05:42,000 NARRATIVE. 167 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,633 USED TO BE CLEAN. 168 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:45,300 NOW IT'S RENEWABLE. 169 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:47,033 >> THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE 170 00:05:43,633 --> 00:05:48,900 CHANGES STATE SENATOR DON HARMON 171 00:05:45,300 --> 00:05:51,033 WHO HAS BEEN IN THE GENERAL 172 00:05:47,033 --> 00:05:53,066 ASSEMBLY FOR 18 YEARS, SPOKE TO 173 00:05:48,900 --> 00:05:53,333 THOSE CHALLENGES BUT ALSO HINTED 174 00:05:51,033 --> 00:05:54,766 AT HOPE FOR WORKING SOMETHING 175 00:05:53,066 --> 00:05:56,333 OUT. 176 00:05:53,333 --> 00:05:57,966 >> IN MY ENTIRE TIME IN THE 177 00:05:54,766 --> 00:05:59,500 SENATE THIS MAY BE THE MOST 178 00:05:56,333 --> 00:06:00,866 COMPLICATED BILL AND THE MOST 179 00:05:57,966 --> 00:06:03,000 CHALLENGING NEGOTIATION OF WHICH 180 00:05:59,500 --> 00:06:04,666 I'VE EVER BEEN PART. 181 00:06:00,866 --> 00:06:05,000 I MET TODAY AS I HAVE SEVERAL 182 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,733 TIMES WITH THE GOVERNOR AND THE 183 00:06:04,666 --> 00:06:08,333 SPEAKER. 184 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:10,566 AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE 185 00:06:06,733 --> 00:06:13,166 VERY WILLING AND ABLE PARTNERS 186 00:06:08,333 --> 00:06:15,633 IN BOTH TO GET THIS ACROSS THE 187 00:06:10,566 --> 00:06:17,233 FINISH LINE. 188 00:06:13,166 --> 00:06:18,733 IN PARTICULAR, BECAUSE OUR 189 00:06:15,633 --> 00:06:21,466 EFFORTS TO LISTEN TO THE 190 00:06:17,233 --> 00:06:23,400 GOVERNOR'S PRIORITIES, TO INSURE 191 00:06:18,733 --> 00:06:25,800 THAT THERE IS A HARD CLOSE OF 192 00:06:21,466 --> 00:06:26,100 CARBON EMITTING PLANTS. 193 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,333 AND THAT THERE ARE NO SPECIAL 194 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,266 DEALS. 195 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:31,200 WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THE 196 00:06:28,333 --> 00:06:34,066 REQUIREMENTS HE WOULD HAVE TO 197 00:06:29,266 --> 00:06:34,900 SIGN THE BILL. 198 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:36,800 >> SO WHAT IS NEXT? 199 00:06:34,066 --> 00:06:38,566 PROCEDURALLY THE MEASURE HEADS 200 00:06:34,900 --> 00:06:40,233 TO THE HOUSE AND MORE 201 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:42,133 NEGOTIATING BETWEEN UNIONS AND 202 00:06:38,566 --> 00:06:44,500 ENVIRONMENTALISTS AND ALSO THE 203 00:06:40,233 --> 00:06:46,866 GOVERNOR WHO HAD WHAT I WILL 204 00:06:42,133 --> 00:06:48,800 DESCRIBE AS A TEPID RESPONSE TO 205 00:06:44,500 --> 00:06:50,500 THE SENATE PLAN SAYING HE WANTS 206 00:06:46,866 --> 00:06:52,733 A VARIOUS CHANGES TO IT. 207 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:53,466 AND REALLY THIS COAL PLANT PHASE 208 00:06:50,500 --> 00:06:54,800 OUT IS GOING TO BE A KEY PART OF 209 00:06:52,733 --> 00:06:56,900 THAT. 210 00:06:53,466 --> 00:06:58,733 MEANWHILE YOU HAVE EXELON 211 00:06:54,800 --> 00:07:01,400 ISSUING A STATEMENT SAYING IT IS 212 00:06:56,900 --> 00:07:03,466 ESSENTIALLY DOING ALL IT CAN TO 213 00:06:58,733 --> 00:07:05,133 KEEP THINGS RUNNING AT THE BYRON 214 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:07,333 PLANT IN CASE THERE IS A 215 00:07:03,466 --> 00:07:09,833 LEGISLATIVE SOLUTION BUT THE 216 00:07:05,133 --> 00:07:11,633 CORPORATION SAID QUOTE TO BE 217 00:07:07,333 --> 00:07:13,833 CLEAR, BYRON WILL RUN OUT OF 218 00:07:09,833 --> 00:07:16,133 FUEL AND WILL PERMANENTLY 219 00:07:11,633 --> 00:07:16,433 SHUTDOWN ON SEPTEMBER 13TH 220 00:07:13,833 --> 00:07:18,000 UNLESS A LAW IS ENACTED BEFORE 221 00:07:16,133 --> 00:07:19,433 THEN. 222 00:07:16,433 --> 00:07:21,666 WITH THAT PARIS, BACK TO YOU. 223 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,000 >> DOWN TO THE FINAL DAYS IN 224 00:07:19,433 --> 00:07:24,366 WHAT FEELS LIKE AN END BUILDING