1 00:00:04,300 --> 00:00:08,333 >> NOW, ON TO THE STATE BUDGET 2 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,900 IMPASSE. 3 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,500 JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT THE 4 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,066 LATEST IS HOUSE REPUBLICAN 5 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,166 LEADER JIM DURKIN OF WESTERN 6 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:16,166 SPRINGS. 7 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:17,600 AND "CHICAGO TONIGHT" EXTENDED 8 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:19,766 AN INVITATION TO HOUSE SPEAKER 9 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:20,100 MIKE MADIGAN AND THE OFFICE 10 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:21,166 RESPONDED THEY WOULD KEEP IT IN 11 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:21,533 MIND. 12 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:22,700 >> JIM WELCOME TO "CHICAGO 13 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:24,233 TONIGHT." 14 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:25,433 GLAD YOU ARE HERE. 15 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:26,733 GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE 16 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:27,200 PROGRESS OF THE WORKING GROUPS 17 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:29,033 WORKING TO COME UP WITH A 18 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:30,466 BUDGET? 19 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:31,933 >> WELL, I THINK THEY ARE MAKING 20 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:34,333 PROGRESS THERE WAS A MEETING 21 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:35,433 GROUP THAT DEALS WITH THE BUDGET 22 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:37,066 AND THE STOPGAP BUDGET REQUEST 23 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:38,266 WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH BY 24 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:40,133 THE END OF JUNE AND WE HAVE 25 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:43,333 GROUPS DEALING WITH REFORMS THAT 26 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:44,800 THE GOVERNOR HAS BEEN ASKING FOR 27 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:47,266 FOR THE PAST YEAR-AND-A-HALF 28 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:48,533 REGARDING WORKMEN'S COMPENSATION 29 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:49,900 AND PROPERTY TAX REFORM AND 30 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:52,333 CONSOLIDATION MANDATE RELIEF WE 31 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:53,900 WILL FIND OUT SOON. 32 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:55,966 WE ARE SCHEDULED TO GO BACK INTO 33 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:58,000 SESSION NEXT WEEK AND I WILL 34 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:00,100 KNOW IF WE HAVE MADE PROGRESS ON 35 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:01,433 THE STOPGAP BUDGET TO GIVE 36 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:03,166 BREATHING ROOM TO PEOPLE WHO 37 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:05,300 RELY UPON STATE SERVICES WHICH 38 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:07,733 WILL GO THROUGH THE END OF THE 39 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:10,133 CALENDAR YEAR AND GIVE US TIME 40 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:11,900 TO NEGOTIATE AND PUT AN END TO 41 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:13,500 THE I AM PAPAS AND HAVE -- 42 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:16,433 IMPASSE AND HAVE A FULL YEAR. 43 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:20,233 >> THERE'S TWO STOPGAP MEASURES 44 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:21,366 SORT OF IN THE -- 45 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:22,966 OUT THERE AS WORKING ENTITIES. 46 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:25,233 WHICH ONE WHICH IS THE ONE THAT 47 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:26,700 YOU THINK HAS THE BEST CHANCE? 48 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:28,600 RIGHT NOW THE GOVERNOR HAS ONE 49 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:28,933 ON HIS OFFICE -- 50 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:30,766 >> HUMAN SERVICES BILL ON HIS 51 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:33,966 DESK. 52 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:35,733 BUT I THINK THAT THAT BILL CAN 53 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:37,233 BE MOOTED OUT IF WE NEGOTIATE IN 54 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:38,900 A HONEST FASHION OVER THE NEXT 55 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:39,666 WEEK-AND-A-HALF WHICH WE CAN DO. 56 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:40,600 THINGS CAN MOVE QUICKLY IN 57 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:42,566 SPRINGFIELD IF PEOPLE ARE 58 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:42,866 WILLING TO DO IT. 59 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:46,600 THAT IS WHAT OUR BUDGET GROUP IS 60 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:51,066 DOING. 61 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:53,333 WE ARE WORKING ON APPROXIMATELY 62 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:54,966 $27 BILLION STOPGAP, HALF A YEAR 63 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:56,433 APPROPRIATION TO FUND VITAL 64 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:57,933 SERVICES, HIGHER ED, HUMAN 65 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:59,666 SERVICES, STATE OPERATIONS WHICH 66 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:01,533 ARE VERY, VERY CONCERNING WITH 67 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:02,933 OUR STATE PRISONS WHICH WE ARE 68 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:04,500 CONCERNED ABOUT VENDORS NOT 69 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:06,200 SUPPLYING ELECTRICITY, WATER, 70 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:08,333 FOOD. 71 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:09,666 BUT WE HAVE A GROUP THAT IS 72 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:11,166 NEGOTIATING ON A K-12 BILL 73 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:12,233 PASSED FOR THE FULL YEAR AND 74 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:13,733 THAT IS SOMETHING WHICH I HAVE 75 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:15,400 INTRODUCED ON BEHALF OF THE 76 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:17,266 GOVERNOR WHICH WILL FULLY FUND 77 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:18,933 EDUCATION AT 100% FOR THE FIRST 78 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:20,200 TIME IN FIVE YEARS. 79 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:22,000 OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS IT'S 80 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:24,566 PRORATED DOWN TO 90%. 81 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:26,333 THERE IS A LOT OF MOVING PARTS 82 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:28,466 BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A 83 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:29,400 PATHWAY TO GET THIS DONE. 84 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:32,100 IF THERE IS A WILLINGNESS ON 85 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:32,866 BEHALF OF THE DEMOCRATIC 86 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:34,966 LEADERSHIP TO PUT ASIDE WHATEVER 87 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:37,433 DIFFERENCES THEY MAY HAVE WITH 88 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:38,833 THE GOVERNOR AND GET TO WORK. 89 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:40,633 THE RANK-AND-FILE MEMBERS ARE 90 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:42,500 GETTING WRESTLESS. 91 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:43,766 WE HAVE BEEN OPEN FOR 92 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:45,133 NEGOTIATIONS FOR A LONGTIME AND 93 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:45,766 THE RANK-AND-FILE ON THE 94 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:47,366 DEMOCRATIC SIDE THEY WANT 95 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:48,900 RESOLUTIONS. 96 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:50,600 >> THE FLIP SIDE WOULD BE THAT 97 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:53,100 ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE THEY 98 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:54,166 MIGHT SAY SOCIAL SERVICE 99 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:55,600 AGENCIES ARE BEING DECIMATED AND 100 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:57,000 UNIVERSITIES MADE PAINFUL CUTS 101 00:00:00,000 --> 00:02:58,733 AND THE FUTURE OF COLLEGE 102 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:00,300 STUDENTS ARE AT RISK IS IT WORTH 103 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:02,833 IT FOR THE TURN AROUND AGENDA? 104 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:03,933 >> I WILL SAY THIS... 105 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:05,300 WE DO HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE 106 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:07,433 LAST MAY THE DEMOCRATS IN THE 107 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:08,133 HOUSE AND THE SENATE PASSED A 108 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:10,066 BUDGET THAT WAS $4 BILLION OUT 109 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:12,033 OF BALANCE. 110 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:13,333 AND THEY CLAIM THEY ARE GOING TO 111 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:14,066 PROVIDE SERVICES TO ALL THE 112 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:15,566 DIFFERENT AGENCIES IN THE STATE 113 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:17,100 OF ILLINOIS. 114 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:19,000 THOSE ARE FALSE PROMISES BECAUSE 115 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:20,933 THEY GO IN THE BACK OF THE LINE 116 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:22,433 WITH THE COMPTROLLER AND THE $7 117 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:24,100 BILLION OF UNPAID BILLS. 118 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:25,133 IF WE HAVE MONEY THAT CAN FUND 119 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:26,566 THE PROGRAMS, WE WOULD NOT HAVE 120 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:27,200 THE CRISIS. 121 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:28,733 BUT LAST YEAR THEY DID NOT 122 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:30,266 NEGOTIATE WITH US. 123 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:31,133 IT IS A REPEAT OF RIGHT NOW. 124 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:32,400 AND HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE THE 125 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:34,100 SAME RESULT. 126 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:35,333 WORKING GROUPS THAT WORKED A 127 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:36,700 YEAR AGO ON IMPORTANT ISSUES 128 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:37,733 WHICH THE GOVERNOR CAMPAIGNED ON 129 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:39,233 AND EVERYBODY IN ILLINOIS KNOWS 130 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:39,500 IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE GOVERNOR 131 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:40,533 BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ILLINOIS, 132 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:41,266 TOO. 133 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:42,966 WE ARE TRYING TO AVOID THAT 134 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:46,000 RIGHT NOW. 135 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:47,066 I WAS DISAPPOINTED IN THE HOUSE 136 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:48,766 WHEN THEY PASSED A $7 BILLION 137 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:49,766 UNBALANCED BUDGET BUT I GIVE 138 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:51,500 CREDIT FOR THE DEMOCRATS FOR 139 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:52,766 REFUSING TO PASS THAT BILL. 140 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:54,700 YOU HAVE TO PASS A BALANCED 141 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:56,133 BUDGET THAT IS THE MOST 142 00:00:00,000 --> 00:03:57,533 IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DO. 143 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:00,333 >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS... 144 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:01,466 DO YOUR CONSTITUENTS COMPLAIN 145 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:04,300 MORE ABOUT THE IMPASSE'S IMPACT 146 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:05,500 ON SOCIAL SERVICES OR THE LACK 147 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:07,733 OF MOVEMENT ON THE GOVERNOR'S 148 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:09,400 TURN AROUND AGENDA? 149 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:10,800 REFORM AND DEALING WITH UNIONS? 150 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:13,666 >> IT'S REGIONAL FROM MY FOLKS 151 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:15,100 IT'S FAILURE OF THE DEMOCRATS TO 152 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:16,233 WORK WITH THE GOVERNOR TO BRING 153 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:16,966 PRO BUSINESS AND PRO GROWTH 154 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:17,366 MEASURES TO THE STATE OF 155 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:18,733 ILLINOIS. 156 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:20,433 >> THE. 157 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:21,433 >> THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE HEARING? 158 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:22,900 >> AND THEY ARE TELLING ME HOLD 159 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:24,133 STRONG BECAUSE THEY HAVE SEEN 160 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:25,600 WHAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE DONE TO 161 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:25,866 THE STATE BUDGET FOR THE PAST 162 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:27,600 MANY YEARS AND THEY ARE TIRED OF 163 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:29,333 IT. 164 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:30,433 THEY WANT US TO CHANGE THE 165 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:32,433 DIRECTION OF ILLINOIS AND MAKE 166 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:34,166 ILLINOIS A BETTER STATE. 167 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:36,933 WE ARE STILL LAGGING BEHIND IN 168 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:38,333 SO MANY CATEGORIES THROUGHOUT 169 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:40,700 THE NATION ON JOB GROWTH AND ALL 170 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:41,266 THE OTHER MEASURES THAT PEOPLE 171 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:42,433 LOOK AT IN THE PRODUCTION OF A 172 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:43,466 STATE. 173 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:45,366 >> BACK TO THE ISSUE OF THE 174 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:46,833 WORKING GROUPS. 175 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:48,733 PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE WINDOW 176 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:49,800 DRESSING AND WHAT IT WILL COME 177 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:50,500 DOWN TO IS THE GOVERNOR AND THE 178 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:52,766 LEGISLATIVE LEADERS COMING UP 179 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:53,866 WITH A DEAL. 180 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:55,133 HOW DO YOU REACT TO THAT POINT 181 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:55,766 OF VIEW? 182 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:57,300 >> I AM NOT TO BELIEVE THAT IS 183 00:00:00,000 --> 00:04:58,200 THE CASE. 184 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:00,766 BUT I THINK THE WORKING GROUPS 185 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:03,166 ARE MAKING PROGRESS. 186 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:05,766 I TALK TO THEM ON A DAILY BASIS. 187 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:07,600 AND I HAVE MEMBERS DESEGREGATION 188 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:08,866 ANIES AND I BELIEVE THERE'S 189 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:10,666 AREAS WHICH THEY ARE FINDING 190 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:11,866 COMPROMISE IN PLACES THEY CAN 191 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:13,033 AGREE UPON. 192 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:14,100 >> BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE 193 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:16,100 WORKING GROUPS IT WILL BE THE 194 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:17,800 FOUR OF YOU. 195 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:19,566 >> THE SPEAKER STATED HE WILL 196 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:21,200 PUT IT IN THE HANDS OF THE MEN 197 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:23,900 AND WOMEN IN THE WORKING GROUPS 198 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:25,166 AND WE HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON IT 199 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:26,966 BUT I BELIEVE WE NEED TO GIVE 200 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:28,866 DEFERENCE TO THE MEN AND WOMEN 201 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:30,333 WHO PUT THE TIME AND EFFORT TO 202 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:32,633 FIND AREAS WHERE WE CAN AGREE. 203 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:33,466 AREAS WE CAN AGREE. 204 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:35,033 WE KNOW WHAT THE PRIORITY IS FOR 205 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:36,600 THE DEMOCRATS. 206 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:38,566 THEY WANT ADDITIONAL SPENDING 207 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:39,433 WITH THAT REQUIRES ADDITIONAL 208 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:42,566 REVENUE WHICH MEANS A TAX 209 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:44,333 INCREASE. 210 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:44,866 LET ME BE CLEAR THE GOVERNOR 211 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:46,033 SAID HE WILL SIGN A TAX 212 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:47,600 INCREASE. 213 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:49,000 I NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE 214 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:50,833 SACRIFICE IS FOR THE DEMOCRATS 215 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:54,766 ON PRIORITIES FOR REPUBLICANS. 216 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:56,000 WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING ILLINOIS 217 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:57,566 A MORE PRODUCTIVE STATE AND 218 00:00:00,000 --> 00:05:58,800 BETTER BUSINESS CLIMATE. 219 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:00,333 BUT THIS IS WHAT THE WORKING 220 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:01,966 GROUPS ARE TRYING TO WORKOUT. 221 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:03,500 THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT. 222 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:05,366 >> WHAT DO YOU THINK AS YOU SEE 223 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:07,633 WHERE THE WORKING GROUPS ARE 224 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:10,066 GOING AND AS YOU FACTOR IN THE 225 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:12,133 DIFFERENT PRIORITIES THAT THE 226 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:13,366 LEADERSHIP HAS, WHAT DO YOU 227 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:14,366 THINK A BUDGET DEAL WOULD WINDUP 228 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:15,933 LOOKING LIKE? 229 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:17,400 GENERAL PARAMETERS? 230 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:17,766 >> THE BUDGET DEAL WILL HAVE 231 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:19,866 ADDITIONAL REVENUE AND MORE 232 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:21,766 SPENDING. 233 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:23,800 WE REALIZE THERE HAS TO BE 234 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:25,133 ADDITIONAL SPENDING TO MEET THE 235 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:26,500 OBLIGATIONS OF THE STATE FOR THE 236 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:28,700 UNDERSERVED AND SENIOR 237 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:29,766 POPULATION AND FOR NECESSARY 238 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:31,833 STATE SERVICES AND ALSO FOR OUR 239 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:34,233 BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. 240 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:35,666 BUT I ALSO DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S 241 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:37,266 IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE BUSINESS 242 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:39,766 REFORMS. 243 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:41,200 REFORMS AT ILLINOIS GOVERNMENT 244 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:43,466 REGARDING REFORMS AT LOCAL LEVEL 245 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:44,666 WITH CONSOLIDATION AND 246 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:47,333 COLLECTIVE BARGAINING REFORM AND 247 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:49,033 WORKMEN'S COMPENSATION REFORM WE 248 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:50,533 ARE LOSING BUSINESSES BECAUSE OF 249 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:50,900 THE COMPENSATION RATES THAT THE 250 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:52,566 MANUFACTURERS ARE PAYING IN 251 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:54,333 ILLINOIS. 252 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:54,700 I'VE HEARD IT FROM 100 OF THE 253 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:56,733 C.E.O.S WE CANNOT OPERATE IN 254 00:00:00,000 --> 00:06:58,733 ILLINOIS. 255 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:00,533 EVERY OTHER STATE THE RATES ARE 256 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:03,566 CONSIDERABLY LESS AND IT CUTS 257 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:05,033 INTO OUR ABILITY TO GROW IN 258 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:06,300 ILLINOIS AND IT AFFECTS THE 259 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:07,133 MIDDLE CLASS. 260 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:09,466 TO INCREASE EMPLOYMENT INSIDE 261 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:11,566 THE PLANTS. 262 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:13,333 >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT SOME 263 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:15,366 DEMOCRATS ARE WILLING TO MAKE 264 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:17,466 ACCOMMODATIONS ON WORKMENS' COMP 265 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:18,366 BUT THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING 266 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:19,300 ASPECT THAT CAN BE A THIRD RAIL 267 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:20,100 FOR SO MANY. 268 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:22,300 >> I BELIEVE THEY ARE MAKING 269 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:22,833 PROGRESS IN THAT AREA. 270 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:24,766 WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET -- 271 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:28,766 I BELIEVE WE ARE. 272 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:29,166 AND THAT IS BASED ON MY 273 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:30,166 CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR 274 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:32,666 DESIGNEES. 275 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:34,400 AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE WILLING TO 276 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:35,233 WORK WITH US ON CERTAIN AREAS 277 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:37,600 WITHIN COLLECTIVE BARGAINING. 278 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:39,633 TIME WILL TELL. 279 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:41,433 WE HAVE TO GET THIS WRAPPED UP 280 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:44,000 BY THE END OF JUNE OUR FISCAL 281 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:45,600 YEAR CLOSES AT THE END OF JUNE. 282 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:47,366 IF WE DO NOT HAVE A STOPGAP OR 283 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:48,966 FULL BUDGET I BELIEVE THAT THE 284 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:49,333 CONSEQUENCES WILL BE VERY, VERY, 285 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:51,100 VERY DRASTIC ON THE STATE OF 286 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:52,766 ILLINOIS. 287 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:54,466 IT WOULD BE UNFORTUNATE FOR US 288 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:55,733 TO GO INTO ANOTHER YEAR WITHOUT 289 00:00:00,000 --> 00:07:59,166 A BUDGET BUT A BALANCED BUDGET. 290 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:02,300 >> AND THE MAYOR WAS ON OUR SHOW 291 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:04,833 AND HE SAID THAT THE GOVERNOR IS 292 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:05,466 OBSESSED WITH THE HOUSE SPEAKER 293 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:07,800 AND HE SHOULD GET MOBY DICK AS 294 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:08,733 SUMMER READING. 295 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:09,800 IS THE GOVERNOR OBSESSED WITH 296 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:12,033 MICHAEL MADIGAN? 297 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:13,666 >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. 298 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:15,733 I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS OBSESSED 299 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:17,400 WITH THE BAD GOVERNMENT OF 300 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:18,800 ILLINOIS OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS. 301 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:20,600 THE GOVERNOR RAN ON ONE REASON. 302 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:21,300 HE WANTED TO FIX SPRINGFIELD. 303 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:22,566 A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK IT IS A 304 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:23,700 PERSONAL MATTER BETWEEN THE 305 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:24,633 GOVERNOR AND THE SPEAKER AND 306 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:26,066 ALSO THE MAYOR. 307 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:27,833 I DO NOT BELIEVE SO. 308 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:29,100 THE GOVERNOR HAS NOT CHANGED 309 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:29,733 SINCE HE STARTED CAMPAIGNING AND 310 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:31,766 SINCE HE BECAME HE WAS SWORN 311 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:34,300 INTO OFFICE. 312 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:36,133 THAT IS ALL GREAT FOR POLITICS 313 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:37,533 AND PEOPLE TO WHISPER OUTSIDE 314 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:39,800 THE HOUSE CHAMBER BUT I BELIEVE 315 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:41,833 THE GOVERNOR IS COMMITTED TO 316 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:44,633 CHANGING ILLINOIS AND NOT 317 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:46,133 ALLOWING THE DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP 318 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:47,400 TO DO END AROUNDS ON HIM BUT 319 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:49,400 ALSO THE GOVERNOR IS DEMANDING 320 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:50,466 WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER AND BE 321 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:52,133 ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE EACH OTHER'S 322 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:54,066 PRIORITIES AND THAT IS WHAT HE 323 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:54,666 IS STATING. 324 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:57,533 HE MAY BE ROUGH BUT HE IS ALSO A 325 00:00:00,000 --> 00:08:59,733 TOUGH GUY. 326 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:01,066 AND HE IS NOT GOING TO BE PUSHED 327 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:02,433 AROUND AND HE'S FOCUSED ON WHAT 328 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:06,000 IS IMPORTANT FOR THE STATE OF 329 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:08,000 ILLINOIS AND I AGREE WITH HIM. 330 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:09,500 >> AND YET, IF YOU LOOK AT HOUSE 331 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:12,200 SPEAKER MADIGAN HOW MANY 332 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:13,633 GOVERNORS HAS HE BEEN THROUGH? 333 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:15,233 IS THE GOVERNOR BEING 334 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:17,166 OUTMANEUVERED IN TERMS OF 335 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:18,733 OPERATING WITHIN THE LEGISLATIVE 336 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:20,066 SYSTEM POLITICALLY. 337 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:21,466 SOME PEOPLE THINK HE IS? 338 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:23,766 >> I DISAGREE AND THAT IS SPIN 339 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:25,466 THAT WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW. 340 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:26,766 BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE 341 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:27,866 DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP AND THE 342 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:31,366 RANK-AND-FILE MEMBERS ARE 343 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:33,366 FRUSTRATED THEY HAVE NOT BEEN 344 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:35,333 ABLE TO GET CART BLANCH OUT OF 345 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:36,400 THE TWO GOVERNORS IN THE PAST. 346 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:37,800 THEY BELIEVE THEY OWN THE 347 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:39,433 CAPITOL AND THEY HAVE A NEW 348 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:40,433 SHERIFF IN TOWN WITH A 349 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:42,033 REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR WHO FEELS 350 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:43,433 STRONG AND COMMITTED TOWARDS 351 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:43,800 WHAT HE RAN ON AND WHAT HE 352 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:45,366 BELIEVES IS THE FUTURE FOR 353 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:47,266 ILLINOIS. 354 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:49,866 THEY ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THAT 355 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:51,600 THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO 356 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:52,366 GET THE GOVERNOR OR THE 357 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:56,366 REPUBLICANS TO CAPITULATE TO 358 00:00:00,000 --> 00:09:59,766 THEIR DEMANDS. 359 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:01,100 WE STOPPED 70 VETO OVERRIDES AND 360 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:02,666 BAD BILLS REGARDING COLLECTIVE 361 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:03,200 BARGAINING ISSUES AND THAT HAS 362 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:04,500 BEEN STOPPED IN THE HOUSE OF 363 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:05,433 REPRESENTATIVES. 364 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:06,866 THEY DO NOT HAVE THEIR WAY. 365 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:18,033 THEY HAVE NOT -- 366 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:18,966 IT'S NOT THE SAME PATH WHICH 367 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:19,866 THEY HAVE HAD FOR YEARS BEFORE. 368 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:20,700 >> GOVERNOR EDGAR WAS ON THE 369 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:21,566 SHOW AND HE SAID THAT DEALING 370 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:26,733 WITH MICHAEL MADIGAN IS NOT 371 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:27,500 NECESSARILY EASY BUT PART OF THE 372 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:28,300 JOB. 373 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:29,133 IS THE GOVERNOR DOING HIS JOB? 374 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:29,933 >> I THINK THEY DO CONVERSE. 375 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:31,800 I THINK EVERYBODY CAN TALK MORE 376 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:33,400 AND MEET MORE BUT THE GOVERNOR 377 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:33,900 IS DOING THIS JOB ON MANAGING 378 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:35,733 THE STATE UNDER DIFFICULT 379 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:37,633 CIRCUMSTANCES. 380 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:39,766 THE GOVERNOR WENT IN WITH GOOD 381 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:42,333 FAITH AND WAS NOT REWARDED WITH 382 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:43,933 THAT BY THE DEMOCRATS PASSING 383 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:47,233 THE BUDGET $4 BILLION OUT OF 384 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:47,566 BALANCE AND DID WORSE THIS YEAR 385 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:48,900 WITH THE $7 BILLION UNBALANCED 386 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:50,400 BUDGET. 387 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:52,000 THAT IS NOT GOOD FAITH. 388 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:54,633 IT IS A TWO-WAY STREET. 389 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:56,533 SO THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP 390 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:58,166 NEEDS TO BE MORE UP FRONT AND 391 00:00:00,000 --> 00:10:59,833 OBLIGING TO THE NEEDS AND ALSO 392 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:00,466 THE PRIORITIES OF THE REPUBLICAN 393 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:02,300 GOVERNOR AND ALSO THE REPUBLICAN 394 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:03,400 CAUCUS. 395 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:04,033 >> SWITCHING GEARS I WILL ASK A 396 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:05,833 QUESTION THAT REPUBLICANS ARE 397 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:06,400 BEING ASKED. 398 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:09,666 ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE FOR DONALD 399 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:11,066 TRUMP? 400 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:15,233 >> I WILL CONSIDER THE VOTING 401 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:16,000 FOR A REPUBLICAN AFTER THE 402 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:17,066 NOMINATION IS SET AND CLEAR. 403 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:17,433 NO ONE HAS BEEN NOMINATED YET. 404 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:18,700 I WILL WAIT UNTIL THERE IS A 405 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:20,133 NOMINEE. 406 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:20,600 >> ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT 407 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:22,433 NOMINEE MIGHT NOT BE DONALD 408 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:24,100 TRUMP? 409 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:25,300 >> I AM NOT SAYING THAT HE IS 410 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:26,233 THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE BUT A 411 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:28,566 LOT OF THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN 412 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:30,233 THE WORLD. 413 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:32,233 I'M MORE INTERESTED ON HELPING 414 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:32,700 MY COLLEAGUES GET ELECTED AND 415 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:34,700 PICK UP SEATS IN THE HOUSE OF 416 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:36,966 REPRESENTATIVES. 417 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:38,266 I'M RAISING MONEY THROUGHOUT THE 418 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:40,066 STATE ALONG WITH MY FUNCTIONS. 419 00:00:00,000 --> 00:11:41,500 SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M 420 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 THINKING ABOUT BUT I WILL WAIT