[♪♪♪]

 

>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO

 

"CHICAGO TONIGHT" I'M PHIL

 

PONCE.

 

ON THIS WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER

 

9TH...

 

>> I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT DONALD

 

TRUMP SOMEHOW PENALIZING

 

CHICAGO.

 

>> AS PROTESTORS HIT THE STREETS

 

AT THIS HOUR ADDRESSING WHAT --

 

ASSESSING WHAT DONALD TRUMP'S

 

COMING PRESIDENCY MEANINGS FOR

 

CHICAGO AND WHY MAYOR EMANUEL

 

SAYS HE DOES NOT EXPECT TRUMP

 

WILL PUNISH THE CITY.

 

>>> AMERICA WILL NO LONGER

 

SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS THAN

 

THE BEST.

 

>> THEN TAKING STOCK OF WHAT A

 

TRUMP PRESIDENCY MAY LOOK LIKE.

 

>>> A VOLATILE INITIAL REACTION

 

IN MARKETS HERE AND AROUND THE

 

GLOBE TO THE AMERICAN ELECTION.

 

SO WHAT WILL TRUMP'S ECONOMIC

 

IMPACT BE HERE AND ABROAD?

 

>>> NO ONE TALKED TO ME ABOUT

 

HOW THIS MERGER IS GOING TO TAKE

 

PLACE.

 

>> COOK COUNTY VOTERS GIVE THE

 

GO AHEAD TO ELIMINATE THE COOK

 

COUNTY RECORDER OF DEEDS OFFICE.

 

IT WAS ONE OF TWO MAJOR

 

REFERENDA ON YESTERDAY'S BALLOT.

 

A LOOK AT THE IMPLICATIONS.

 

>>> REPUBLICANS BREAK MILD

 

MADIGAN'S SUPER MAJORITY IN THE

 

HOUSE.

 

WHAT IMPACT WILL THAT HAVE ON

 

FIXING THE STATE'S PROBLEMS?

 

THE LATEST FROM SPRINGFIELD.

 

>> WHAT UNITES US, LADIES AND

 

GENTLEMEN, FAR OUTWEIGHS

 

ANYTHING THAT DIVIDES US.

 

>> TONIGHT'S VICTORY HERE IN

 

THIS ROOM IS A BRIGHT SPOT IN AN

 

OTHERWISE DARKENING.

 

>> AND TWO VEHICLEIOUS ILLINOIS

 

DEMOCRATS ON THEIR WAY TO

 

WASHINGTON TELL US HOW THEY PLAN

 

TO WORK WITH A TRUMP

 

ADMINISTRATION.

 

ALL THAT AND MORE NEXT ON

 

"CHICAGO TONIGHT."

 

[♪♪♪]

 

>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US

 

HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENING IN

 

CHICAGO TONIGHT.

 

BUN OF COOK COUNTY'S NEWLY

 

ELECTED JUDGES WILL NOT BE

 

ALLOWED TO TAKE HER SEAT ON THE

 

BENCH.

 

RHONDA CRAWFORD IS THE CLERK WHO

 

IS ALLEGED TO HAVE PUT ON A ROBE

 

AND PRESIDED OVER TRAFFIC CASES

 

IN AUGUST.

 

SHE CONTINUES HER RUN FOR JUDGE

 

THOUGH THE INCIDENT LEFT HER

 

UNDER INDICTMENT UNDER FELONY

 

AND MISDEMEANOR CHARGES.

 

THE ILLINOIS SUPREME COURT

 

SUSPENDED HER LAW LICENSE AND

 

BARRED HER FROM BEING SWORN IN

 

IF SHE WON.

 

THE STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS

 

DECLARED CRAWFORD THE WINNER BUT

 

IF SHE PERMANENTLY LOSES HER LAW

 

LICENSE IN A HEARING OR

 

CONVICTED OF A FELONY CHARGE SHE

 

WILL BE PERMANENTLY INELIGIBLE.

 

CRAWFORD PLEADED NOT GUILTY TO

 

THE CHARGES.

 

>> ANOTHER RACIALLY CHARGED

 

CONFRONTATION IN THE MOUNT

 

GREENWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD.

 

A MOSTLY BLACK GROUP OF 25

 

ACTIVISTS ARRIVED AT THE FAR

 

SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD TO

 

PROTEST THE FATAL POLICE

 

SHOOTING OVER THE WEEKEND OF

 

25-YEAR-OLD JOSHUA BEAL.

 

THEY WERE MET BY A LARGER GROUP

 

OF BLUE LIVES MATTER SUPPORTERS

 

DROWNING OUT CHANTS WITH REVVED

 

MOTORCYCLE ENGINES AND SHOUTS OF

 

GO HOME.

 

MOUNT GREEN WEED WAS THE SEEN OF

 

CONFRONTATIONS WHICH BLACK

 

PROTESTORS HAD TO BE ESCORTED

 

AWAY BY POLICE.

 

>>> AS FOR THE WEATHER CLEAR

 

TONIGHT WITH A LOW AROUND 39.

 

AND TOMORROW SHOULD BE SUNNY

 

WITH A HIGH NEAR 61.

 

>>> AND COMING UP, WHAT IS AT

 

STAKE FOR CHICAGO IN A DONALD

 

TRUMP PRESIDENCY?

 

[♪♪♪]

 

>> A SENSE OF ANXIETY AND

 

DISAPPOINTMENT AMONG MANY CITY

 

OF CHICAGO ELECTED OFFICIALS.

 

THE CITY OVERWHELMINGLY WENT

 

WITH DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE HILLARY

 

CLINTON BUT WILL NOW HAVE TO

 

WORK WITH A PRESIDENT TRUMP.

 

SOME ARE WE ARED ABOUT WHAT IT

 

MEANS FOR CHICAGO'S IMMIGRANT

 

POPULATION, FEDERAL FUNDING AND

 

MORE AFTER EFFORTS TO REMOVE

 

TRUMP'S HONORARY STREET SIGN.

 

PARIS SCHUTZ HAS THE LATEST.

 

>> A PROTEST BEGAN OUTSIDE TRUMP

 

TOWER IN RIVER NORTH THIS

 

EVENING.

 

IT IS STILL GOING ON AT THIS

 

HOUR AND HAS GROWN TO BE

 

NUMBERED POSSIBLY OVER 1,000

 

PEOPLE.

 

THEY HAVE MARCHED DOWN INTO THE

 

LOOP AND THEN DOWN SOUTH

 

MICHIGAN AVENUE BLOCKING

 

TRAFFIC.

 

OBVIOUSLY REGISTERING THEIR

 

DISAPPROVAL WITH PRESIDENT-ELECT

 

TRUMP.

 

AND IT REFLECT THE GLOOM MOOD OF

 

MANY CHICAGO ELECTED OFFICIALS

 

MOST MEMBERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC

 

PARTY AND THEY SUPPORTED THEIR

 

NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT.

 

AND THEIR CONCERN AMONG LATINO

 

ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO HAVE

 

SPOKEN WITH THEIR CONSTITUENTS

 

WHO ARE FULL OF ANXIETY

 

HARKENING BACK TO TRUMP'S

 

RHETORIC ABOUT DEPORTING

 

UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS AND

 

OVERTURNING EXECUTIVE ORDERS

 

THAT KEEP COLLEGE STUDENTS

 

UNDOCUMENTED THE SO-CALLED

 

DREAMERS, HERE IN THE COUNTRY OR

 

KEEPING THE UNDOCUMENTED PARENTS

 

OF AMERICAN BORN CHILDREN THE

 

SO-CALLED DOCA PARENTS HERE.

 

MAYOR EMANUEL SAYS CHICAGO WILL

 

REMAIN A WELCOMING CITY FOR

 

IMMIGRANTS.

 

BUT OTHERS ARE NOT SO SURE.

 

>> IT IS EXTREMELY DEPRESSING.

 

I KNOW A NUMBER OF DREAMERS AND

 

DOPA FAMILIES WHO HAVE ALL THEIR

 

INFORMATION HAS BEEN TURNED INTO

 

DC BECAUSE OF THE PRESIDENT'S

 

EXECUTIVE ORDER.

 

AND NOW ACCORDING TO WHAT TRUMP

 

HAS PROFESSED, THEY ARE IN

 

DANGER OF GOING BACK.

 

THERE'S REALLY SAD FAMILIES THAT

 

ARE NOW WORRYING WHAT IS GOING

 

TO HAPPEN NEXT.

 

>> I THINK THE IMMIGRANT

 

COMMUNITY IS STRONG A COMMUNITY

 

THAT HAS PROVEN WE CAN FIGHT AND

 

DEFEND OUR AVERAGES UNDER ATTACK

 

BY POLITICIANS THAT WANT TO PUSH

 

POLICIES THAT HURT US.

 

AND THAT IS WHAT WE WILL SEE IF

 

DONALD TRUMP ATTEMPTS TO HURT

 

OUR COMMUNITY.

 

>> DO NOT LOSE HOPE BECAUSE

 

AMERICA EMBRACES YOU.

 

TWO, I WILL BE CLEAR THAT THE

 

CITY OF CHICAGO AT MANY, MANY

 

DIFFERENT LEVELS, EDUCATION OF

 

THEIR CHILDREN IN PRIMARY

 

EDUCATION, THROUGH THE MUNICIPAL

 

ID, THROUGH THE WAYS WE MAKE

 

SURE THAT CITY SERVICES ARE

 

ACCESSED AND ALSO THAT YOUR KIDS

 

CAN GO ON TO AT LEAST COMMUNITY

 

COLLEGE BECAUSE OF THE CHICAGO

 

STAR.

 

YOUR STRUGGLES YOUR SACRIFICE

 

YOUR DREAMS FOR YOUR CHILDREN

 

ARE HONORED HERE.

 

>> CHICAGO IS A SO-CALLED

 

SANCTUARY CITY FOR I AM GRANTS.

 

IT'S UNCLEAR HOW FEDERAL LAW

 

MIGHT INTERACT WITH HOME RULE ON

 

THAT SHOULD FEDERAL LAW CHANGE

 

GOING FORWARD MANY AND LAST

 

NIGHT'S HUMBLING DEFEAT CAUSED

 

LOCAL DEMOCRATS TO PONDER WHERE

 

EXACTLY THEIR PARTY HAS GONE

 

WRONG.

 

>> THE DEMOCRATS LOST LAST NIGHT

 

FOR A REASON DEMOCRATS LOSE A

 

LOT IS WE HAVE NOT TOLD A CLEAR

 

STORY TO THE PEOPLE WHAT IS

 

WRONG AND HOW TO FIX IT.

 

DONALD TRUMP HAS A STORY THAT

 

IT'S IMMIGRANTS AND MUSLIMS ARE

 

A PROBLEM.

 

BRUCE RAUNER SAYS LABOR UNIONS

 

ARE THE PROBLEM AND WE HAVE NOT

 

TOLD A STORY ABOUT WHAT IS

 

WRONG.

 

AND IT'S GUYS LIKE THEM THAT ARE

 

THE PROBLEM.

 

THE BILLIONAIRES WHO HAVE EARNED

 

MORE MONEY AND HELD DOWN WAGES

 

FOR WORKING PEOPLE.

 

AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO TELL

 

THE STORY OF WHAT IS WRONG WERE

 

IN THIS COUNTRY INCOME

 

INEQUALITY AND CORPORATE PROFIT

 

OUT OF CONTROL AND WE CAN FIX IT

 

BY INVESTING IN THE PEOPLE IN

 

THE STATE.

 

>> PARIS THERE WAS NOISE ABOUT

 

THE COUNCIL'S EFFORT TO REMOVE

 

AN HONORARY TRUMP STREET SIGN IS

 

THAT GOING TO HAPPEN?

 

>> NO ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION

 

FROM THE MAYOR TODAY OR ANY OF

 

THE SPONSORS OF THAT.

 

WE DON'T KNOW.

 

AND CHICAGO WAS PORTRAYED IN A

 

HARSH LIGHT DURING A LOT OF THE

 

DEBATES WHERE PRESIDENT-ELECT

 

TRUMP HIGHLIGHTED THE HIGH

 

MURDER RATE HERE AND THE CITY

 

RELIES ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

 

IF BILLIONS IN FUNDING FOR

 

TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, FOR

 

INSTANCE, THE CTA RED LINE

 

EXTENSION AND MAYOR EMANUEL SAID

 

TODAY HE IS NOT WORRIED THAT THE

 

FEDERAL SPIGOT IS GOING TO DRY

 

UP.

 

>> I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT DONALD

 

TRUMP SOMEHOW PENALIZE CHICAGO.

 

CITIES TODAY ARE THE MAJOR

 

ECONOMIC CULTURAL INTELLECTUAL

 

ENERGY OF THE ECONOMY.

 

AND IT'S INCUMBENT UPON AN

 

ADMINISTRATION TO SEE THAT

 

STRENGTH AND INVEST IN IT AND I

 

WILL MAKE THAT CASE QUITE

 

LOUDLY.

 

>> I THINK THE MAYOR HAS TO GO

 

TO WASHINGTON RIGHT AWAY AND

 

COLLECT AS MUCH OF THE NETWORKS

 

THAT HE HAS TO GET THEIR MONEY

 

THAT THE CITY NEEDS BEFORE THE

 

END OF THE YEAR.

 

>> AND THE MAYOR WILL BE GOING

 

TO WASHINGTON RIGHT AWAY.

 

HE IS HEADING TO WASHINGTON D.C.

 

TOMORROW TO TALK ABOUT VARIOUS

 

CHICAGO-RELATED ISSUES.

 

NO WORD WHETHER HE IS MEETING

 

WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA OR THE

 

PRESIDENT-ELECT.

 

>> THANK YOU.

 

>> AND NOW TO CAROL MARIN AND A

 

LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED AT POLLS

 

AROUND THE COUNTRY YESTERDAY.

 

CAROL?

 

>> PHIL, THANK YOU.

 

>> DONALD TRUMP DEFIED POLITICAL

 

NORMS TO REACH THE HIGHEST

 

OFFICE IN THE LAND.

 

POLLS AND PREDICTIVE MODELS

 

SUGGESTED HILLARY CLINTON WAS

 

GOING TO WIN PERHAPS EVEN

 

HANDILY.

 

BUT ON ELECTION DAY TRUMP TORE

 

THROUGH KEY BATTLEGROUND STATES

 

LIKE FLORIDA AND PENNSYLVANIA.

 

PULLED OFF SURPRISES IN

 

WISCONSIN AND MICHIGAN AND

 

ROLLED TO VICTORY.

 

CLINTON MEANWHILE IS LIKELY TO

 

EMERGE WITH A VICTORY IN THE

 

POPULAR VOTE BUT NOT THE

 

ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

 

THE COUNTRY SEEMS MORE DIVIDED

 

THAN EVER.

 

WILL PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP UNITE

 

THIS COUNTRY LIKE HE SUGGESTED

 

IN HIS VICTORY SPEECH OR DEEPEN

 

THE BREACH AFTER HIS

 

CONTROVERSIAL CAMPAIGN RHETORIC?

 

HERE TO DISCUSS TRUMP'S WIN ARE

 

JOEL WEISMAN HOST OF "CHICAGO

 

TONIGHT", THE WEEK IN REVIEW

 

SEEN HERE FRIDAYS AT 7:00 P.M.

 

ON CHANNEL 11.

 

>> LAUREL HARBRIDGE YONG

 

ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF POLITICAL

 

SCIENCE AT NORTHWESTERN

 

UNIVERSITY.

 

>>> PAT BRADY, A FORMER CHAIRMAN

 

OF THE ILLINOIS REPUBLICAN PARTY

 

AND A CONSULTANT AND FOUNDER OF

 

THE LOBBYING AND PUBLIC

 

RELATIONS FIRM NEXT GENERATION

 

PUBLIC AFFAIRS.

 

>>> AND THE CURRENT CHAIRMAN OF

 

THE ILLINOIS REPUBLICAN PARTY

 

COOK COUNTY COMMISSIONER TIM

 

SCHNEIDER WELCOME ALL OF YOU

 

BACK TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."

 

VERY QUICK SURVEY TO BEGIN.

 

LET'S START WITH THE TWO

 

REPUBLICANS HERE.

 

TIM, SURPRISED BY TRUMP'S

 

VICTORY LAST NIGHT?

 

>> WE WERE SURPRISED.

 

MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT THERE WOULD

 

BE AN UNDERGROUND OF PEOPLE THAT

 

DID NOT WANT TO SAY THEY WERE

 

FOR TRUMP BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE

 

NASTY THINGS THAT HE HAD SAID.

 

BUT BEHIND THE SCENES AGREED

 

WITH THE POLICIES OF SECURITYING

 

OUR --

 

SECURING OUR BORDERS AND BRING

 

IN JOBS BACK.

 

YEAH, WE WERE A LITTLE

 

SURPRISED.

 

WE HAVE BEEN IN OUR STATE RACES

 

I THINK THAT WE EXPECTED TO WIN

 

STATE RACES BECAUSE WE HAD BEEN

 

DOING POLLING AND THOUGHT WE

 

WOULD HAVE SUCCESS THERE BUT IN

 

THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE, WE WERE A

 

LITTLE SURPRISED.

 

>> PAT BRADY?

 

>> SURPRISED.

 

I WAS NOT A FAN OF DONALD TRUMP

 

BUT WE HAD A BIG NIGHT AND KEPT

 

THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE AND GOT

 

THE PRESIDENCY AND ILLINOIS

 

PICKED UP FOUR SEATS.

 

SO I THINK REPUBLICANS HAD A

 

GOOD YEAR AND THE REPUBLICAN

 

PARTY 24 HOURS AGO WAS ALMOST

 

DEAD AND NOW TALKING ABOUT IN

 

2018 PICKING UP MORE SEATS IN

 

THE SENATE IT WAS A GOOD NIGHT.

 

>> LAUREL IS A PROFESSOR

 

POLITICAL SCIENTIST SURPRISED?

 

>> ABSOLUTELY SURPRISED.

 

>> AND JOEL WEISMAN?

 

>> ABSOLUTELY SURPRISED AND ONE

 

OF THE REASONS I'M SURPRISED IS

 

BECAUSE I'M PART OF THAT GROUP

 

THINK WHICH IS THE MEDIA AND THE

 

MEDIA DOESN'T TRY TO DIVERGE

 

INTO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND WE

 

WERE TOLD ALL BY AND OUR

 

GROUPIES AND THE POLLS THAT HE

 

WAS A GONER.

 

AND OBVIOUSLY HE WASN'T.

 

AND IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE WAY

 

WE COVER ELECTIONS AND PRECISELY

 

HOW WE DON'T COVER THEM.

 

>> ARE THE POLL AND MODELS DEAD

 

IN TERMS OF USEFULNESS?

 

>> I THINK A LOT OF THINGS ARE

 

DEAD.

 

CONVENTIONAL COMMERCIALS ARE IN

 

PART DEAD.

 

I THINK NEGATIVE CAMPAIGNING

 

WHICH HILLARY DID DID NOT HELP

 

HER AND SOME WILL GO BY THE

 

BOARDS.

 

AND THE POLLS WE TAKE AND THE

 

TEMPERATURE WE USE IN THE POLLS

 

HAS GOT TO BE REVISED INSIDE THE

 

TRUMP CAMPAIGN THEY OBVIOUSLY

 

HAD BETTER TECHNOLOGY.

 

I MEAN HE KNEW WHEN PEOPLE WERE

 

SAYING WHY ARE YOU GOING TO

 

WISCONSIN?

 

WHY ARE YOU GOING TO MINNESOTA?

 

HE HAD INDICATIONS FROM SOME

 

SURVEYS THAT THOSE WERE

 

CAPTURABLE STATES.

 

>> LAUREL FROM AN ACADEMIC

 

STANDPOINT AND A RESEARCH

 

STANDPOINT DO YOU VIEW THE POLLS

 

AND PREDICTIVE MODELS AS DEAD OR

 

TOO PROBLEMATIC TO USE NOW?

 

>> I WOULD NOT SAY THEY ARE DEAD

 

BUT I THINK PEOPLE HAVE TO THINK

 

HARD WITHIN THIS INDUSTRY ABOUT

 

HOW THEY ARE USING THESE POLLS

 

AND THE TYPES OF ASSUMPTIONS

 

THEY ARE COMFORTABLE MAKING.

 

A COUPLE OF THE ASPECTS WHICH I

 

THINK HAVE BEEN IMPORTANT IN

 

THIS ELECTION CYCLE WE KNOW IN

 

GENERAL THERE'S LOW RESPONSE

 

RATES TO POLLS.

 

SO THERE ARE MORE ASSUMPTIONS

 

THAT ARE MADE SAYING THAT YOU

 

CONTACTED A RANDOM GROUP OF

 

PEOPLE.

 

IN THIS ELECTION I THINK TWO

 

FACTORS MAY HAVE BEEN

 

PROBLEMATIC.

 

ONE IS HOW YOU WEIGHT THE

 

INDIVIDUALS WHO DO RESPOND TO

 

YOUR SURVEY.

 

>> BECAUSE THEY ARE SALTED AND

 

PEPPERED BASED ON WHAT YOU THINK

 

YOU ARE MISSING?

 

>> RIGHT.

 

YOU ARE TRYING TO GET BACK TO

 

THAT SAMPLE FROM THE PEOPLE WHO

 

ARE WILLING TO TALK TO YOU.

 

AND THE OTHER PART AND THE

 

BIGGEST PART OF WHAT WENT WRONG

 

IN THE POLLS IS HOW THE

 

DIFFERENT POLLING FIRMS

 

PREDICTED WHO WAS GOING TO

 

TURNOUT.

 

THE LIKELY VOTER MODELS.

 

AND ACROSS THE POLLING FIRMS ONE

 

OF THE BIGGEST FACTORS THAT GOES

 

INTO THE LIKELY VOTER MODELS IS

 

WHETHER OR NOT YOU TURNED OUT TO

 

VOTE IN THE LAST ELECTIONS.

 

AND IF THE PAST ELECTIONS

 

AFRICAN-AMERICANS WERE VERY

 

EXCITED TO TURNOUT.

 

BARACK OBAMA WAS THE NOMINEE.

 

THOSE INDIVIDUALS WERE PERHAPS

 

LESS EXCITED FOR HILLARY

 

CLINTON.

 

ON THE OTHER SIDE, WHITE

 

INDIVIDUALS WHITE NONCOLLEGE

 

EDUCATED MALES PERHAPS TURNED

 

OUT LOWER RATES FOR OBAMA, AND

 

HIGHER RATES NOW.

 

>> PAT BRADY, THE GREAT

 

COLUMNIST ALWAYS SAID IF A

 

POLLSTER CALLS YOU LIE TO HIM.

 

>> I DO IT.

 

>> DO WE THINK IN FACT I MEAN

 

YOUR BUSINESS RELIES ON POLLS

 

FOCUS GROUPS --

 

>> PROBABLY THREE ELECTION

 

CYCLES HAVE BEEN GARBAGE THE

 

DIFFERENCE IS THE INTERNAL POLLS

 

WHEN GOVERNOR RAUNER AND TIM

 

LIVED THIS I WAS HEARING FROM

 

EVERYBODY HE IS DOWN FIVE BUT

 

THE INTERNAL POLLS WERE THAT HE

 

WAS UP.

 

THE INTERNAL POLLS TALK TO MORE

 

PEOPLE.

 

THE ARE VERY ACCURATE.

 

THEY DID HAVE ACCURATE POLLS

 

BECAUSE YOU READ ARTICLES TODAY

 

ABOUT THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN WAS

 

WORRIED AND THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN

 

KNEW WHERE TO GO SO THERE'S

 

ACCURATE POLLING.

 

THE PUBLIC POLLING HAS BEEN BAD.

 

>> DO YOU AGREE?

 

>> I SAW MOST OF OUR STATE HOUSE

 

AND SENATE RACES WAS ACCURATE AS

 

WE MOVED ALONG IN THE PROCESS.

 

WE PREDICTED THAT WE WERE GOING

 

TO WIN THE EXACTLY THE NUMBER OF

 

SEATS THAT WE DID IN BOTH THE

 

HOUSE AND THE SENATE.

 

WE KNEW IT WOULD BE A --

 

>> THAT IS YOUR OPTIMISM, AND

 

YOU WOULD BE HAPPY AND A VICTORY

 

IF YOU WON ONE SEAT.

 

>> LET'S SAY THIS.

 

>> THAT IS NOT POLLING THAT IS

 

SPIN.

 

>> SINCE THE REMAP THERE HAS NOT

 

BEEN A REPUBLICAN HOUSE MEMBER

 

THAT WON AN ELECTION SINCE 2010.

 

WE ARE IN A PRESIDENTIAL YEAR

 

AND A PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE LOST

 

BY 17 POINTS AND WE PICK UP FOUR

 

HOUSE SEATS AND TWO SENATE

 

SEATS.

 

I WOULD SAY THAT IS A GOOD YEAR

 

FOR REPUBLICANS IN ILLINOIS.

 

AND AS PAT SAID EARLIER WE KEEP

 

THE U.S. HOUSE AND THE U.S.

 

SENATE AND OUR PRESIDENTIAL

 

NOMINEE GETS ELECTED NATIONALLY.

 

I SAY WE DID HAVE A GOOD DAY.

 

>> ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH

 

POLLS AND REPORTING ON POLLS IS

 

THAT WE COVER THE ELECTIONS AS

 

HORSERACES.

 

AND THE POLL IF WE ARE GOING TO

 

ONLY RELY ON POLLS TO BE

 

PREDICTIVE, WE ARE MISSING A

 

LOT.

 

OBVIOUSLY WE ARE MISSING WHEN

 

PEOPLE ARE NOT TRUTHFUL AND WE

 

ARE MISSING WHEN THE POLLS DO

 

NOT ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.

 

BUT YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT TO DO

 

SOME ADDITIONAL DIGGING.

 

AND FOR THE MOST PART, THE

 

INVESTIGATING AND THE FACT

 

CHECKING WAS LIGHT THIS TIME.

 

>> DID THESE RESEARCH MODELS

 

FAIL TO DETECT WHITE HIGH SCHOOL

 

EDUCATED MEN WHO WERE GOING TO

 

RISE UP AND THE NUMBERS THEY DID

 

AND GO FOR TRUMP, BEYOND BLACK

 

VOTES AND BEYOND LATINO VOTES?

 

>> I THINK THEY IDENTIFIED THAT

 

THE INDIVIDUALS WERE STRONG

 

SUPPORTERS OF TRUMP WHERE THEY

 

MISSED HOW MUCH THEY WERE GOING

 

TO TURNOUT.

 

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RETURNS

 

YOU LOOK AT PARTS OF WISCONSIN

 

AND PARTS OF FLORIDA THAT IN THE

 

RURAL AREAS YOU SAW A TURNOUT

 

RATES THAT WERE NOT WHAT PEOPLE

 

EXPECTED.

 

>> WHAT ROLE DID MISOGYNY PLAY,

 

THE IDEA --

 

WE COULD EIGHT YEARS AGO ELECT

 

AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAN TO THE

 

PRESIDENCY.

 

BUT WE STILL WOULD NOT SEE FIT

 

TO ELECT A WOMAN TO THE

 

PRESIDENCY?

 

IS THERE SOMETHING TO THAT?

 

>> I THINK HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN

 

WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

 

AND SHE DROPPED FAIRLY EARLY ON

 

THE WHOLE IDEA IT COULD BE AN

 

HISTORIC ELECTION AND A CHANCE

 

TO BREAK THE GLASS CEILING.

 

>> SHE LEFT THAT CONVERSATION

 

BEHIND.

 

>> SHE LEFT THAT CONVERSATION AT

 

THE VEHICLES AND SHE SUSPECTED

 

THAT THERE WAS MISOGYNY AT PLAY.

 

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE

 

STATISTICS, HER AMOUNT OF FEMALE

 

SUPPORT WAS THE SAME THAT OBAMA

 

GOT.

 

AND TRUMP GOT MORE FEMALE

 

SUPPORT THAN PEOPLE HAD THOUGHT.

 

>> HOW DO WE SQUARE THE FACT TIM

 

AND PAT, THAT SO MANY AMERICANS

 

WHETHER THEY IDENTIFY AS

 

REPUBLICAN, INDEPENDENT,

 

DEMOCRAT, DON'T LIKE EITHER ONE

 

OF THEM.

 

DON'T FEEL EITHER ONE OF THEM IS

 

TRUTH WORTHY.

 

AND YET, ARE CELEBRATING A TRUMP

 

WIN.

 

>> WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO

 

WHAT JOEL SAID I REJECT THE

 

NOTION THAT PEOPLE WOULD OR

 

WOULD NOT VOTE FOR HILLARY

 

CLINTON BECAUSE SHE WAS A WOMAN.

 

I THINK IT WAS MORE ABOUT HER

 

CHARACTER AND THE E-MAIL SCANDAL

 

AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE

 

HAD DONE WITH BENGHAZI.

 

AND PEOPLE DID NOT WANT TO GO IN

 

THAT DIRECTION AND REJECTED FOUR

 

MORE YEARS OF WHAT WE HAD HAD

 

FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

 

AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT THIS

 

ELECTION WAS ALL ABOUT.

 

IS REMAINING WITH THE STATUS QUO

 

BUSINESS AS USUAL.

 

OR TAKING THE COUNTRY IN A NEW

 

DIRECTION.

 

>> AND THAT NEW DIRECTION BY

 

TRUMP'S WORDS ARE ANTI-MUSLIM,

 

ANTI-MEXICAN, ANTIWOMAN DOES

 

THAT SUGGEST A NEW DIRECTION?

 

>> AND YET IN THE ELECTION YOU

 

SAW THAT MORE HISPANICS CAME OUT

 

AND VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP.

 

MORE AFRICAN-AMERICANS THAN

 

PREDICTED CAME OUT AND VOTED FOR

 

DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE WE SEE WHAT

 

IS HAPPENING IN OUR

 

INNER-CITIES.

 

WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE CRIME IN

 

CHICAGO AND MANY OF OUR CITIES

 

IN OUR NATION MANY PEOPLE

 

BELIEVE THAT DONALD TRUMP COULD

 

TAKE US IN A NEW DIRECTION AND

 

START REBUILDING OUR CITIES AND

 

CREATING JOBS AND BRINGING

 

BUSINESSES BACK TO OUR SHORES.

 

>> MANY PEOPLE NEVER VOTED

 

BEFORE AND WITH TWO NEGATIVE

 

CHOICES WHY DON'T A I TAKE A

 

CHANCE THAT THE ONE WHO IS AN

 

OUTSIDER AS A LAST-DITCH EFFORT

 

MAY TURN THINGS AROUND.

 

>> AND THE OTHER THING WE HAVE

 

TO REMEMBER IS THE POWER OF

 

PEOPLE'S PARTY IDENTIFICATION.

 

THAT AS MUCH AS PEOPLE MAY HAVE

 

DISLIKED THINGS ABOUT EITHER

 

CANDIDATE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE

 

EXIT POLLS WHAT I SAW TODAY WAS

 

THAT 90% OF SELF IDENTIFIED

 

REPUBLICANS SAID THEY ENDED UP

 

VOTING FOR TRUMP AND AIDE 89% OF

 

DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR CLINTON.

 

DESPITE THE FACT THAT TRUMP WAS

 

NOT YOUR TRADITIONAL REPUBLICAN

 

CANDIDATE DID NOT ESPOUSE

 

TRADITIONAL CONSERVATIVE

 

PRINCIPLES REPUBLICANS CAME HOME

 

TO HIM.

 

AND IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS PEOPLE

 

WHO HAD BEEN SAYING THEY WERE

 

VOTING FOR THIRD PARTY

 

CANDIDATES CAME HOME TO THE

 

PARTIES IN A LARGE DEGREE.

 

>> DONALD TRUMP SOME OF THE

 

STUFF HE DID WAS DISGUSTING.

 

THE LIFELONG REPUBLICAN, I WAS

 

EMBARRASSED BY THE CAMPAIGN HE

 

RAN.

 

BUT THE REALITY HE IS THE

 

PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

 

FOR WHATEVER REASON.

 

A LITTLE BIT OF IT BECAUSE

 

HILLARY CLINTON WAS NOT A GOOD

 

CANDIDATE AND WE DON'T DO

 

CORONATIONS AND SHE HAD A

 

PROBLEM WITH HONESTY AND DONALD

 

TRUMP IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE

 

UNITED STATES.

 

THE SUGGESTIONS THAT HE IS

 

SOMEHOW EVIL OR WHATEVER HE DID

 

DURING THE CAMPAIGN WE HAVE TO

 

GO FORWARD.

 

WE HAVE A NEW PRESIDENT OF THE

 

UNITED STATES AND WE DON'T NEED

 

16 MORE YEARS OF WHAT WE SAW

 

WITH GEORGE BUSH OR BARACK OBAMA

 

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS TO

 

DEAL WITH.

 

>> WHAT HAPPENS THERE?

 

BECAUSE OF THE FRACTIOUS NATURE

 

OF THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY THEY

 

ATE THEIR YOUNG AMONG THOSE

 

CANDIDATES.

 

AND NOW, IN THE SENATE, MARCO

 

RUBIO IS BACK AND TED CRUZ.

 

>> HOLD ON A SECOND.

 

WE'VE GOT ELIZABETH WARREN AND

 

BERNIE SANDERS WHO CAME CLOSER

 

TO GETTING A NOMINATION THAN

 

HILLARY CLINTON DID IN 2008 THAT

 

WILL BE PULLING THIS PARTY TO

 

THE LEFT AND THEY DO NOT HAVE A

 

LEADER.

 

>> MY QUESTION IS ABOUT

 

REPUBLICANS AND HOW THEY FIRST

 

OF ALL HOW THEY PUT IT BACK

 

TOGETHER AGAIN BECAUSE MITCH

 

McCONNELL DID NOT WANT TO TALK

 

ABOUT IT --

 

>> I THINK WE ARE ALREADY

 

PUTTING IT BACK TOGETHER.

 

PAUL RYAN WAS PUTTING IT BACK

 

TOGETHER THIS MORNING.

 

THE BUSHES WERE PUTTING IT BACK

 

TOGETHER.

 

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS ALL

 

ABOUT UNITY.

 

WE ARE TRYING TO BRING IT

 

TOGETHER.

 

I WAS AMAZED BY THE CONCILIATORY

 

MOOD OF SECRETARY CLINTON AND

 

BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT OUR

 

PRESIDENTIAL --

 

PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP SAID.

 

THIS IS WHAT WE DO AS A NATION.

 

THAT IS WHAT IS GREAT ABOUT THE

 

UNITED STATES.

 

WE COME TOGETHER.

 

AND ALONG WITH THAT, THE

 

REPUBLICAN PARTY WILL COME

 

TOGETHER AND UNITE BEHIND DONALD

 

TRUMP.

 

>> BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S A

 

LOT MORE TO IT WITHIN THE PARTY.

 

I THINK AT THIS TIME AFTER THE

 

ELECTION OF COURSE EVERYONE

 

WANTS TO GIVE AT LEAST LIP

 

SERVICE TO THE UNITY AND PERHAPS

 

THERE IS A REAL GOAL FOR THAT.

 

BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS

 

CLEAR-CUT WHAT WE WILL SEE

 

WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

 

GOING FORWARD.

 

>> THERE'S UNITY WHEN YOU SAID

 

THAT EVERYBODY RETURNED TO THE

 

PARTY.

 

>> THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT

 

THINGS.

 

ONE IS THAT VOTERS FOLLOWED

 

THEIR PARTY IDENTIFICATION AND

 

THE OTHER IS WITHIN CONGRESS YOU

 

ALREADY HAVE A DIVIDE BETWEEN

 

YOUR HOUSE FREEDOM CAUCUS

 

REPUBLICANS AND YOUR MORE

 

TRADITIONAL REPUBLICANS.

 

DONALD TRUMP ESPOUSES A BRAND OF

 

REPUBLICANISM THAT IS DIFFERENT

 

THAN BOTH OF THOSE.

 

AND I DO NOT THINK THAT IT'S

 

NECESSARILY CLEAR-CUT WHAT THAT

 

AGENDA WOULD BE THAT THEY WOULD

 

UNITE BEHIND.

 

>> THAT IS WHY IT'S UP TO HIM

 

RIGHT NOW.

 

HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE

 

UNITED STATES COME UP WITH

 

SOMETHING SOME AGENDA THAT THE

 

COUNTRY CAN AGREE UPON AND I

 

LIKED WHAT HILLARY CLINTON

 

SUGGESTED HOW ABOUT A BIG

 

INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT THAT

 

EVERYBODY CAN AGREE ON.

 

HOW ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

 

AND GIVE HIM A CHANCE.

 

TO SUGGEST THIS IS ABOUT IT'S

 

NOT GOING TO WORK.

 

HE HAS ONLY BEEN ELECTED 12

 

HOURS.

 

>> AND I DO NOT THINK ANYBODY IS

 

SUGGESTING THAT IT'S ALL

 

DIVIDED.

 

>> THE QUESTION SUGGESTED IT.

 

>> HOW DO YOU IN THE LONG-TERM

 

NOT THE SHORT-TERM, PIECE THIS

 

TOGETHER?

 

BUT ONE LAST QUICK QUESTION WE

 

ARE ABOUT OUT OF TIME TO MEDIA

 

JOEL DOES THE MEDIA HAVE A PLACE

 

AT THIS TABLE?

 

OR HAVE THEY --

 

HAVE WE IN CRITICAL WAYS

 

FORSAKEN OUR OWN PLACE?

 

>> I THINK WE HAVE

 

UNFORTUNATELY.

 

AND WE'VE DONE IT BUYER REPORTS

 

IN THE WAY WE COVERED THESE

 

THINGS.

 

AND WE'RE DOING IT BY OTHER

 

FORCES THAT WERE BUFFETTED BY

 

NAMELY THE INTERNET AND TWITTER

 

AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

 

WHICH DO NOT HAVE THE SAME

 

STANDARDS THAT THE MEDIA DOES.

 

>> SOUL SEARCHING OR A LOT OF

 

SOUL SEARCHING.

 

>> A LOT OF SOUL SEARCHING AND

 

CHANGING THE TEMPLATE.

 

>> JOEL WEISMAN, LAUREL

 

HARBRIDGE YONG, PAT BRADY, TIM

 

SCHNEIDER THANK YOU VERY MUCH

 

FOR BEING WITH US ON "CHICAGO

 

TONIGHT."

 

UP NEXT A LOOK AT WHAT A TRUMP

 

PRESIDENCY MAY MEAN TO THE

 

ECONOMY.

 

SO STAY WITH US.

 

>> STILL TO COME ON "CHICAGO

 

TONIGHT", COOK COUNTY VOTERS

 

TELL THE RECORDER OF DEEDS

 

OFFICE TO CLOSE-UP SHOP.

 

>>> THE LATEST ON GOVERNOR

 

RAUNER AND SPEAKER MADIGAN'S

 

BATTLE FOR POWER IN SPRINGFIELD.

 

>> AND TWO LOCAL DEMOCRATS

 

HEADING TO CONGRESS SHARE THEIR

 

THOUGHTS ON THE TRUMP VICTORY.

 

>> FIRST DONALD TRUMP'S ELECTION

 

ROILED GLOBAL MARKETS LAST NIGHT

 

AND IS MORE MARKET VOLATILITY IN

 

STORE?

 

THE PRESIDENT-ELECT PROMISED

 

MASSIVE TAX CUTS, THRILLIAN

 

DOLLAR INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING

 

AND TEARING UP TRADE AGREEMENTS.

 

WHAT WILL BE THE IMPACT OF A

 

TRUMP PRESIDENCY ON THE ECONOMY

 

HERE AND ABROAD?

 

JOINING US WITH ANSWERS ARE

 

EDWARD STUART PROFESSOR EMERITUS

 

OF ECONOMICS AT NORTHEASTERN

 

ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY AND MICHAEL

 

MILLER ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF

 

ECONOMICS AT DEPAUL'S COLLEGE OF

 

BUSINESS.

 

WELCOME BACK TO "CHICAGO

 

TONIGHT."

 

>> I'M INTERESTED IN THE

 

REACTION TO THE RESULTS.

 

MICHAEL MILLER YOUR REACTION TO

 

TRUMP'S VICTORY?

 

>> I WAS SURPRISED.

 

I AM A REPUBLICAN, A

 

CONSERVATIVE AND I VOTED FOR

 

GARY JOHNSON.

 

I HAD BEEN ASKED WHICH ONE OF

 

THE TWO CANDIDATES DO I THINK

 

WOULD DO LESS HARM?

 

AND I HAD THOUGHT IT WOULD BE

 

HILLARY CLINTON BUT THAT WAS

 

WELL BEFORE SOME OF THE STUFF

 

CAME OUT AND HER BAD JUDGMENT.

 

I THINK WE ARE STUCK WITH

 

SOMEBODY WHO WE CAN WORK WITH.

 

AND IT WILL NOT BE THE END OF

 

THE WORLD.

 

>> NOT THE END OF THE WORLD

 

STUART?

 

>> MAYBE CLOSE TO IT.

 

>> WHY?

 

>> I WAS SHOCKED.

 

AND STILL SOMEWHAT INCREDULOUS.

 

ONE OF THE PROBLEMS OF COURSE IS

 

THAT DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T REALLY

 

HAVE ANY ECONOMIC IDEAS.

 

AND DOESN'T HAVE SPECIFIC PLANS.

 

AND HAS KIND OF SLOGANS AND

 

BLEEPS MOST OF WHICH ARE NOT

 

TRUE.

 

ONE OF THE PANELISTS TALKED

 

ABOUT CRIME RISING.

 

CRIME IS FALLING.

 

AND DONALD TRUMP TALKED ABOUT

 

MANUFACTURING JOBS LEAVING AND

 

MANUFACTURING EMPLOYMENT IS UP

 

IN THE UNITED STATES.

 

AND DONALD TRUMP AT ONE TIME

 

SAID THE TRUE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE

 

WAS 40%.

 

ONLY AN IDIOT WOULD BELIEVE

 

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

 

THE QUESTION OF WHAT COMES NEXT

 

IS PRETTY SEVERE AND I THINK THE

 

CONSEQUENCES COULD BE PRETTY

 

BAD.

 

AND THE STOCK MARKET I THINK IS

 

GIVING US AN INDICATION THAT

 

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BAD FOR

 

EVERYBODY JUST FOR THE PEOPLE

 

WHO VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP.

 

>> MICHAEL MILLER WHO WILL

 

BENEFIT FROM A TRUMP PRESIDENCY

 

IN TERMS OF THEIR ECONOMIC

 

STATUS AND WELL-BEING?

 

>> WELL, IF HE GETS WHAT HE

 

WANTS IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMIC

 

GROWTH BECAUSE ONE BIG

 

DIFFERENCE IS THAT HILLARY

 

CLINTON LIKE BARACK OBAMA

 

BELIEVES IN INCOME

 

REDISTRIBUTION MORE THAN GROWTH.

 

DONALD TRUMP BELIEVES IN GROWTH

 

INSTEAD OF REDISTRIBUTION.

 

INCOMES HAVE NOT BEEN RISING

 

UNTIL RECENTLY.

 

MEDIAN INCOME OF HOUSEHOLDS IS

 

LOWER THAN AT THE START OF THE

 

GREAT RECESSION.

 

IF WE GET THE GROWTH HE IS

 

TALKING ABOUT THROUGH HIS

 

POLICIES, THIS WOULD HELP

 

EVERYBODY.

 

IT WOULD BE GOOD.

 

>> EDWARD STUART WHAT GROWTH IS

 

HE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT ARE

 

THE ODDS OF GETTING THAT?

 

>> ALMOST NONE BECAUSE THERE'S

 

GOOD EVIDENCE FROM RELATIVELY

 

MAINSTREAM ORGANIZATIONS LIKE

 

THE IMF THAT REDISTRIBUTION IS

 

PRO GROWTH BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH

 

A UNEASTERN DISTRIBUTION THAT

 

ECONOMIC GROWTH DEPENDS ON

 

CONSUMER DEMAND AND IT CANNOT

 

EXIST UNLESS THERE'S INCOME.

 

AND IF THE TRUMP TAX IDEA OF

 

CUTTING TAXES FOR THE RICH AND

 

CUTTING TAXES FOR THE

 

CORPORATIONS, AND THEN HAVING TO

 

CUT DOMESTIC SPENDING TO FINANCE

 

DEFENSE SPENDING OR

 

INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING, I DO

 

NOT THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE

 

GROWTH.

 

>> MICHAEL MILLER, WHO STANDS TO

 

GET HURT?

 

>> WHO WOULD GET HURT?

 

I THINK IF HE GOT THROUGH THE

 

POLICIES HE WANTS WHICH WOULD BE

 

TRADE PROTECTIONISM WE WOULD ALL

 

GET HURT IN THAT SENSE IN THAT

 

THE PRICES OF GOODS WOULD GO UP

 

AND WE WOULD HAVE A TRADE WAR

 

BETWEEN US AND OTHER COUNTRIES

 

WHICH IS NEVER GOOD FOR PRICES

 

IN GENERAL.

 

SO IF HE WOULD GET THAT THROUGH

 

WHAT I'M HOPING HE WILL MOVE

 

TOWARDS THE CENTER.

 

WHEN HE WORKS WITH THE CONGRESS,

 

THEY WILL CONVINCE HIM AND HE

 

WILL NEGOTIATE AS HE SAYS HE

 

DOES VERY WELL, TO COME UP WITH

 

SOME KIND OF TWEAKING OF THE

 

TRADE AGREEMENTS WITHOUT

 

DESTROYING THE TRADE AGREEMENTS.

 

AND HE WILL PLACATE THE POPULOUS

 

I TOLD YOU I WOULD LOOK AT THE

 

TRADE AGREEMENTS.

 

BUT HE IF HE GETS WHAT HE WANTS

 

HE WOULD SOMEHOW YANK NAFTA AND

 

GO AFTER TPP, THIS WOULD BE A

 

PROBLEM.

 

>> EDWARD STUART ANY IDEA WHO IS

 

ADVISING HIM ON MATTERS RELATING

 

TO THE ECONOMY?

 

>> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION AND

 

NOBODY THAT HAS ANY STATUS WITH

 

WITHIN THE ECONOMICS PROFESSION.

 

I KNOW WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE

 

AGAINST ELITES.

 

BUT EVEN GEORGE BUSH AND RONALD

 

REAGAN HAD ECONOMIST WHO HAD

 

SOME IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON.

 

DONALD TRUMP DOES NOT KNOW

 

ANYBODY THAT HAS IDEAS THAT

 

KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON.

 

>> DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT?

 

>> I DON'T KNOW.

 

THAT MIGHT BE ACADEMIC WHICH WE

 

OFTEN HAVE.

 

I KNOW HE WORKS WITH LARRY

 

KUDLOW WHO WAS A FED ECONOMIST

 

AND THEN A CORPORATE ECONOMIST.

 

AND NOW HE DOES CNBC.

 

AND THE GUY STEVEN MOORE AT THE

 

"WALL STREET JOURNAL" HERITAGE

 

THEY ARE ECONOMISTS THEY ARE

 

PHD'S THEY ARE NOT STUPID MEN.

 

>> LARRY KUDLOW LAST BEEN WRONG

 

ABOUT EVERYTHING FOR 25 YEARS

 

AND STEVEN MOORE IS NOT WELL

 

RESPECTED BY ANYBODY ON THE

 

LEFT, RIGHT OR CENTER.

 

>> YOU REFERENCED THIS BUT

 

DONALD TRUMP HAS PLEDGED TO

 

REBUILD INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH

 

WILL BECOME SECOND TO NONE IN

 

THE PRESIDENT-ELECT'S

 

TERMINOLOGY AND HE HAS A

 

THRILLIAN REBUILDING PLAN.

 

WHERE IS HE GOING TO GET THE

 

SPENDING?

 

>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE WILL

 

GET THE MONEY.

 

I DO.

 

I KNOW WHAT HIS PLAN IS.

 

HIS PLAN IS BY CHANGING THE

 

CORPORATE TAX LAWS, AND BY

 

BRINGING THE PERSONAL INCOME

 

DOWN TO 3 DIFFERENT AND LOWER

 

BRACKETS, THAT THIS WOULD CAUSE

 

ECONOMIC GROWTH TO GO FROM 2% TO

 

4%.

 

AND THAT WOULD GENERATE IN

 

ITSELF GENERATE MORE REVENUE

 

THAT HE COULD USE AND SPEND AND

 

DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE ACTIVITY.

 

>> THOSE PROJECTIONS 2-4% EDWARD

 

STUART YOU THOUGHT THOSE WERE

 

NOT REALISTIC?

 

>> I THINK THE PHRASE IS VOODOO

 

ECONOMICS IT'S BEEN TRIED WITH

 

REAGAN AND BUSH AND THERE'S NO

 

GROWTH FROM TAX CUTS.

 

ALSO THERE'S NO HISTORICAL

 

EVIDENCE AND NO METRIC EVIDENCE

 

THAT TAX CUTS ESPECIALLY FOR THE

 

WEALTHY PRODUCE ANYTHING EXCEPT

 

LARGER BUDGET DEFICITS AND

 

MONETARY POLICY THAT HAS TO BE

 

RESTRICTIVE AND RAISING INTEREST

 

RATES HIGH.

 

>> THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE

 

EVEN DONE BY THE ADVISER WHO

 

ADVISE Mr. OBAMA THAT TAX

 

INCREASES THAT MRS. CLINTON

 

WANTED ARE EXTREMELY

 

CONTRACTIONARY AND HAD HILLARY

 

CLINTON WON AND PUT IN THE $5

 

MILLION BREAK WHERE YOU HAVE TO

 

PAY THIS EXTRA INCOME TAX THAT

 

WOULD HAVE SLOWED ECONOMIC

 

GROWTH IT WOULD NOT HAVE

 

INCREASED IT.

 

>> AND SHE WAS PROMISING TO CUT

 

TAXES TO RAISE TAXES ON UPPER

 

INCOME INDIVIDUALS AND LOWER IT

 

ON LOWER INCOME INDIVIDUALS.

 

>> WHAT IS THE FED GOING TO DO

 

NOW WITH THE INTEREST RATES?

 

>> I WOULD SUSPECT THAT IN

 

DECEMBER BECAUSE OF ALL OF THIS

 

UNCERTAINTY THAT THEY WILL DO

 

NOTHING.

 

>> THAT IS AN INTERESTING

 

DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEY WERE

 

DEVELOPED TO DO SOMETHING IN THE

 

LAST TWO MEETINGS.

 

AND NOT RIGHT BEFORE THE

 

ELECTION BUT THE NUMBER COMING

 

OUT OF THE LAST FED MEETING WAS

 

70% CHANCE OF AN INCREASE IN

 

DECEMBER ASSUMING THE DATA COMES

 

IN THE WAY IT HAS BEEN COMING

 

IN.

 

I'M NOT SURE IF THE LABOR DATA

 

DOES NOT COME IF I'M WONDERING

 

IF THE FED WILL RAISE RATES AND

 

SIT ON IT.

 

>> AND JANET YELLEN WHAT IS HER

 

FUTURE?

 

>> I DON'T KNOW.

 

I DO NOT THINK IT'S GOOD WHICH

 

IS A REAL TRAGEDY.

 

>> SHE HAS A 12-YEAR TERM?

 

>> SHE IS A BRIGHT WOMAN AND HAS

 

GOTTEN A LOT OF TOTALLY

 

IRRATIONAL CRITICISM FROM THE

 

TRUMP CAMPAIGN.

 

ONE OF THE ISSUES ABOUT THE FED

 

IS THAT IT IS A CREATURE OF

 

CONGRESS AND CONGRESS CAN CHANGE

 

THE LAW.

 

AND THERE HAVE BEEN --

 

>> CAN CONGRESS CHANGE HER TERM?

 

>> YES, THEY CAN CHANGE

 

ANYTHING.

 

>> SHE HAS A 12-YEAR TERM IN

 

TERMS OF HER SEAT BUT A

 

FOUR-YEAR TERM AS CHAIRWOMAN AND

 

EVERY PRESIDENT GETS THE CHANCE

 

TO NOMINATE AND APPOINT A

 

CHAIRPERSON TO THE HEAD OF THE

 

BOARD OF GOVERNORS.

 

SO SHE WILL BE UP SOMETIME

 

DURING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

 

THIS IS ANOTHER PLACE WHERE IN

 

OTHER WORDS WHY GARY JOHNSON

 

EVEN THOUGH I AM PROUDLY A

 

REPUBLICAN.

 

>> YOU ARE WEARING THE TIE.

 

>> I BROUGHT MY ELEPHANTS.

 

AND HE THINKS THAT THE FED AND

 

YELLEN IN PARTICULAR IS

 

POLITICAL AND THAT IS JUST WRONG

 

NOT THE CASE.

 

>> YOU DO NOT THINK YELLEN IS A

 

POLITICAL PERSON IN THE SENSE --

 

>> I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR HER.

 

I BELIEVE SHE IS A GOOD

 

ECONOMIST NOT WORKING ON

 

POLITICS.

 

>> EDWARD STUART THE

 

PRESIDENT-ELECT TALKED ABOUT

 

SPENDING BILLIONS ON BUILDING A

 

WALL WITH MEXICO.

 

ONE OF THIS COUNTRY'S BIGGEST

 

TRADE PARTNERS.

 

WHAT DO YOU THINK THE PROSPECTS

 

FOR THAT ARE?

 

>> I HOPE NOT GOOD.

 

ONE OF THE THINGS I AGREE WITH

 

MIKE ON IS THAT PROTECTIONISM

 

AND CUTTING OFF TRADE IS NOT A

 

WIN-WIN SITUATION.

 

THERE WILL BE A FEW INDUSTRIES

 

THAT MAY BE HELPED BUT THERE

 

WILL BE LOTS OF INDUSTRIES THAT

 

ARE HURT.

 

AND A LOT OF INDUSTRIES IN

 

CHICAGO THAT DEPEND ON EXPORTS,

 

BOEING WOULD BE HURT.

 

ALL OF THE FINANCIAL SERVICES

 

AND ACCOUNTING SERVICES AND

 

BUSINESS SERVICES THAT WE HAVE.

 

>> THEY WOULD NOT BE HURT BY A

 

WALL?

 

>> WELL, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

 

NAFTA AND A WALL AND WHAT THAT

 

WOULD SYMBOLIZE.

 

SO, YEAH, IT'S NOT A HAPPY

 

PROSPECT.

 

>> MICHAEL MILLER, THE PROSPECTS

 

OF A WALL BEING BUILT?

 

>> OR CAMPAIGN RHETORIC?

 

>> IF HE DOES NOT COME UP WITH

 

SOMETHING LIKE THAT HE IS GOING

 

TO TAKE A MAJOR HIT IN TERMS OF

 

POPULARITY BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT

 

THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WANTING.

 

I AM NOT A FAN OF IT.

 

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE THAT WE HAVE

 

THE RIGHT TO PROTECT OUR BORDERS

 

AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT

 

PHYSICAL WALLS CAN WORK.

 

ASK ISRAEL AND SEE IF ISRAELIS

 

ARE SHOT BY PALESTINIANS ANYMORE

 

AND THE ANSWER IS NO.

 

>> AND ASK THE EAST GERMANS.

 

>> BUT THEY DID WORK TO KEEP THE

 

PEOPLE IN.

 

BUT I JUST THAT IS NOT WHERE THE

 

IMMIGRATION ISSUE IS CENTERED.

 

IT'S MORE THAT PEOPLE COME IN ON

 

A VISA AND OVER STAY NOT PEOPLE

 

COMING OVER THE BORDER FROM

 

MEXICO.

 

>> WE APPRECIATE IT.

 

ALWAYS LOVE HAVING THE TWO OF

 

YOU ON.

 

UP NEXT A MOVE MADE BY COOK

 

COUNTY VOTERS SO STAY WITH US.

 

>> COOK COUNTY VOTERS DID

 

SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY

 

YESTERDAY THEY VOTED TO

 

ELIMINATE THE OFFICE OF THE COOK

 

COUNTY RECORDER OF DEEDS AND

 

CONSOLIDATE IT INTO THE COUNTY

 

CLERK'S OFFICE.

 

IT WAS ONE OF TWO BINDING

 

REFERENDA ON THE BALLOT AND BOTH

 

GOT THE VOTERS' THUMBS UP.

 

>> THE REFERENDA TO MERGE THE

 

RECORDER OF DEEDS OFFICE INTO

 

THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE WAS

 

RECEIVED AN OVERWHELMING SUPPORT

 

FROM COUNTY VOTERS WITH MORE

 

THAN 63% OF THEM SAYING YES.

 

THE MEASURE WAS PROPOSED BY

 

COUNTY COMMISSIONER JOHN

 

FRITCHEY WHO SAID CONSOLIDATING

 

THE OFFICES COULD SAVE 800,000

 

TO 2 MILLION A YEAR.

 

10 COUNTY COMMISSIONER VOTED TO

 

PUT THE CONSOLIDATION MEASURE ON

 

THE BALLOT.

 

AND ALL FIVE OF THE COUNTY

 

COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE

 

AFRICAN-AMERICAN OPPOSED THE

 

MEASURE.

 

QUESTIONING WHETHER IT WOULD

 

BRING ABOUT SAVINGS AND ONE

 

COMMISSIONER SAID THAT IT WAS AN

 

ALL OUT ATTACK ON BLACK ELECTED

 

OFFICIALS.

 

THE LAST FOUR RECORDERS OF DEEDS

 

HAVE BEEN AFRICAN-AMERICAN.

 

AND THE OFFICE EMPLOYS MANY

 

AFRICAN-AMERICANS.

 

BUT NOW, THE MAIN FUNCTIONS OF

 

THE RECORDERS OFFICE IS TO KEEP

 

PROPERTY RECORDS, TRACK LIENS

 

AND COLLECT TRANSFER TAXES.

 

BUT THE HEAD SAYS HER OFFICE

 

DOES MORE INCLUDING OUTREACH TO

 

RESIDENTS TO SAVE THEM MONEY.

 

THE MERGER TAKES PLACE IN THE

 

NEXT FOUR YEARS AND KAREN

 

YARBROUGH IS IN THE DARK ABOUT

 

THE LOGISTICS OF MERGING AND

 

QUESTIONS WHERE THE COST SAVINGS

 

WILL HAPPEN.

 

>> THE CLERK SAID SOMETHING

 

ABOUT CHANGE THE NAME ON THE

 

DOOR.

 

WELL, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.

 

YOU WILL HAVE TO DO MUCH MORE

 

THAN THAT.

 

SO I REALLY DON'T HAVE A REAL

 

FEEL FOR HOW THIS IS GOING TO

 

HAPPEN.

 

I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT IS GOING TO

 

SAVE AND NEITHER DOES THE COUNTY

 

BOARD FOR THE MOST PART PEOPLE

 

DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DO IN

 

THIS OFFICE ANYWAY.

 

AND THE PEOPLE WHO DID, I WOULD

 

THINK THAT THE 600,000 PEOPLE

 

WHO VOTED NOT TO CONSOLIDATE THE

 

OFFICE MAYBE THEY UNDERSTOOD

 

WHAT WE DO HERE MAYBE A USE THE

 

OFFICE.

 

>> COUNTY CLERK DAVID ORR WHOSE

 

OFFICE WILL BE TAKING OVER THE

 

FUNCTIONS HAS BEEN AN ADVOCATE

 

OF THIS MERGER.

 

HOW COME?

 

>> WELL, THAT IS BECAUSE HE SAYS

 

HE HAS SUGGESTED THAT PERHAPS

 

KAREN YARBROUGH HAS NOT

 

IMPLEMENTED SOME TECHNOLOGIES

 

AND EFFICIENCIES THAT COULD BE

 

COST SAVINGS FOR THAT OFFICE.

 

AND HE SAYS THE CONSOLIDATION IS

 

A SMART MOVE AND THE COST

 

SAVINGS WILL COME FROM

 

ELIMINATING 16 ADMINISTRATIVE

 

POSITIONS INCLUDING HUMAN

 

RESOURCES AND PR.

 

>> FOR BIG CITIES AND BIG

 

COUNTIES TO SURVIVE WE HAVE GOT

 

TO BE EFFICIENT.

 

AND SO BY COMBINING OFFICES

 

WHICH WILL SAVE US A LOT OF

 

MONEY AND WITH NO INEFFICIENCIES

 

FOR THE VOTERS IT ALL MAKES

 

SENSE.

 

YOU COULD SAVE $2 MILLION A

 

YEAR.

 

AND BUILD FROM THERE.

 

AND THERE ARE NOT ANY

 

SIGNIFICANT COSTS WHATSOEVER FOR

 

COMBINING THE OFFICES.

 

KEEP IN MIND, THE KEY IS THE

 

RECORDING FUNCTION IS IMPORTANT.

 

AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE

 

DOING THE RECORDING FUNCTION

 

WILL STAY THERE.

 

WE SHOULD BE DOING CROSS-TRAIN.

 

AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT

 

THAT THEIR PEOPLE CAN DO THE

 

CLERK'S WORK AND OUR PEOPLE CAN

 

DO THE RECORDER'S WORK AND YOU

 

SAVE MONEY NOT BY LAYOFFS BUT BY

 

WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE YOU HAVE

 

PEOPLE THAT CAN DO THE WORK.

 

>> COOK COUNTY CLERK DAVID ORR

 

HELD HIS POST FOR 25 YEARS AND

 

IS NOW 72 YEARS OLD.

 

THERE HAS BEEN BUZZ THAT DAVID

 

ORR MAY NOT RUN IN 2018 WHICH

 

OPENS THE DOOR FOR THE CURRENT

 

RECORDER OF DEEDS AND SHE DOES

 

SAY SHE IS INTERESTED.

 

>> AND THERE WERE OTHER

 

NONBINDING REFERENDA ON THE

 

CHICAGO BALLOT BUT THERE IS A

 

MEASURE BINDING AND THAT PASSED

 

EASILY.

 

>> IT HAD OVERWHELMING SUPPORT.

 

THE SO-CALLED SAFE ROADS

 

AMENDMENT AND IT PASSED WITH

 

NEARLY 80% OF THE VOTE.

 

IT NEEDED 60% OF THE VOTE IN

 

ORDER TO BE ADDED TO THE STATE

 

CONSTITUTION.

 

AND WHAT IT DOES IS FORCE TAXING

 

BODIES TO USE TRANSPORTATION

 

RELATED FEES SUCH AS LICENSE

 

PLATE REGISTRATION PAYMENTS AND

 

MOTOR FUEL TAXES ONLY ON ROADS

 

AND BRIDGE PROJECTS AND THE CTA.

 

PUTTING THE MONEY COLLECTED INTO

 

WHAT IS CALLED THE LOCK BOX ONLY

 

USED FOR THOSE TRANSPORTATION

 

PURPOSES.

 

IT NOT ONLY WAS A RARE

 

BIPARTISAN PROPOSAL FROM

 

GOVERNOR RAUNER AND MIKE MADIGAN

 

BUT IT GOT A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM

 

TRADE UNIONS AND MAJOR BUSINESS

 

GROUPS AND THE ILLINOIS CHAMBER

 

OF COMMERCE.

 

AND WE GOT REACTION FROM LOCAL

 

PUBLIC OBSERVERS.

 

CYNTHIA THE SENIOR ADVISOR

 

SAYS...

 

>> THANK YOU.

 

>> AFTER TENS OF MILLIONS OF

 

DOLLARS AND A MASSIVE WAVE OF

 

POLITICAL ADVERTISING,

 

REPUBLICANS NETTED A HANDFUL OF

 

SEATS IN THE ILLINOIS

 

LEGISLATURE IN THE ELECTION.

 

THEY PICKED UP ENOUGH TO BREAK

 

HOUSE SPEAKER MIKE MADIGAN'S

 

SUPER MAJORITY BUT THE VETO

 

OVERRIDE POWER PROVED TOUGH FOR

 

MADIGAN TO WRANGLE.

 

THE STATE HOUSE AND THE SENATE

 

REMAIN IN DEMOCRATIC CONTROL.

 

JOINING US FROM SPRINGFIELD WITH

 

MORE ON WHETHER THE POWER WILL

 

SHIFT MUCH AND WHETHER A

 

PERMANENT STATE BUDGET IS MORE

 

LIKELY IS "CHICAGO TONIGHT"'S

 

AMANDA VINICKY.

 

HOW MANY SEATS WERE IN PLAY AND

 

HOW MANY WENT TO THE

 

REPUBLICANS?

 

>> YOU HAD A COUPLE DOZEN SEATS

 

REALLY IN PLAY.

 

OUT OF 177, TOTAL GENERAL

 

ASSEMBLY SEATS YOU DID NOT HAVE

 

ALL OF THE ILLINOIS SENATE UP

 

ALL AT ONCE.

 

THE HOUSE WAS UP.

 

AND YOU HAVE A LOST THOSE RACES

 

UNCONTESTED.

 

A COUPLE DOZEN WERE COMPETITIVE.

 

AND THE TRULY COMPETITIVE ONES

 

WHAT YOU SAW WAS JUST IN THE

 

SINGLE DIGITS A TOTAL OF SEVEN.

 

WE HAD AS OF A COUPLE HOURS AGO

 

AT LEAST ONE RACE THAT HAS NOT

 

BEEN CALLED BY "THE ASSOCIATED

 

PRESS".

 

AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE IS TWO MORE

 

REPUBLICANS IN THE ILLINOIS

 

SENATE THAT IS ENOUGH THAT THE

 

SENATE KEEPS THE SUPER MAJORITY

 

BUT IN THE HOUSE IF YOU NOTED

 

THAT IS GONE.

 

YOU HAD ONE INCUMBENT REPUBLICAN

 

LOSE HIS SEAT THAT IS DWIGHT KAY

 

FROM NEAR ST. LOUIS GLEN CARBON.

 

AND THEN YOU HAD FIVE DEMOCRATS

 

LOSE.

 

FOR A NUT NET OF FOUR IN THE

 

ILLINOIS HOUSE THAT IS ENOUGH TO

 

WIPE AWAY THE SUPER MAJORITY.

 

>> AND JUST POLITICS WHAT DOES

 

THAT MEAN?

 

THE FACT THAT THE DEMOCRATS DO

 

NOT HAVE THE SUPER MAJORITY?

 

>> WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT

 

PREVIOUSLY WITH THAT SUPER

 

MAJORITY YOU COULD HAVE

 

DEMOCRATS AND DEMOCRATS ALONE

 

OVERRIDE A GUBERNATORIAL VETO

 

NOT ANYMORE.

 

YOU NEED THREE SETS OF EACH

 

CHAMBER AND IN ORDER TO OVERRIDE

 

ANY BILL REJECTED BY BRUCE

 

RAUNER NOW IF THE GOVERNOR SAYS

 

NO TO LEGISLATION.

 

THEN AND THE DEMOCRATS STILL

 

WANT TO IMPOSE IT THEY WILL NEED

 

REPUBLICANS TO SIDE WITH THEM.

 

WE HAVE NOT SEEN A LOT OF THAT

 

ON CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES ANYWAY.

 

REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN STICKING

 

WITH THEIR GOVERNOR.

 

>> AMANDA WHAT DOES IT MEAN IN

 

TERMS OF THE GOVERNOR'S ABILITY

 

TO GET MORE OF HIS AGENDA

 

PASSED?

 

ANYTHING?

 

>> MAYBE, MAYBE NOT.

 

IF YOU READ THE REACTIONS THE

 

STATEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE FROM

 

THE LEADERS, HOUSE SPEAKER

 

MADIGAN TOOK HIS AS VINDICATION

 

AND SAYS WE STILL HAVE

 

DEMOCRATIC MAJORITIES IN THE

 

GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

 

SO HE IS GOING TO TAKE THAT AS

 

VOTERS STILL WANTING TO REJECT

 

RAUNER'S AGENDA AN AGENDA THAT

 

MADIGAN CLASSIFIED AS

 

ANTI-MIDDLE CLASS.

 

HOWEVER, THE HOUSE MINORITY

 

LEADER DURKIN SAYS HE READS IT

 

THE OTHER WAY AND SAYS THIS THE

 

NUMBERS THAT WERE EATEN INTO IN

 

TERMS OF THE DEMOCRATIC RANKS

 

SHOW THAT QUOTE ILLINOIS VOTERS

 

SENT A STRONG MESSAGE IT'S TIME

 

FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO JOIN

 

GOVERNOR RAUNER.

 

THAT IS SHARED BY THE G.O.P.

 

LEADER IN THE SENATE AND SHE

 

SAYS NOW IT'S ON INCUMBENTS TO

 

COMPROMISE.

 

>> AMANDA, IT'S SAID THAT THIS

 

NEW NUMBER CREATES BUDGET

 

CULPABILITY FOR GOVERNOR RAUNER.

 

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

 

>> IT GETS BACK TO THE SUPER

 

MAJORITY FIGURE.

 

AGAIN, THAT YOU'VE HAD GOVERNOR

 

RAUNER SAYING FOR A LONGTIME,

 

HEY, THE DEMOCRATS HAVE A SUPER

 

MAJORITY.

 

IF THEY WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO

 

SOMETHING IF THEY WANT A TAX

 

INCREASE AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM

 

WITH THE BUDGET GO AHEAD.

 

DO IT.

 

THEY DON'T NEED ME.

 

NOT ANYMORE.

 

SO THAT IS WHERE IN A SENSE THE

 

GOVERNOR HAS BOUGHT HIMSELF MORE

 

CULPABILITY IN THE BUDGET

 

BATTLE.

 

>> AND WHAT --

 

HOW DOES THIS IMPACT THE

 

PROSPECT OF A PERMANENT BUDGET

 

THIS NEW BREAKDOWN IN

 

SPRINGFIELD?

 

>> WELL, IF YOU TALK TO AND ARES

 

IT SHOWS THAT VOTERS WANT

 

CHANGE.

 

YOU LOOK AT IT AND AT THE

 

PRESIDENTIAL LEVELS ON DOWN BUT

 

GIVEN THAT YOU DID HAVE

 

DEMOCRATS WINNING OTHER RACES

 

LOOKING AT THE U.S. SENATE WITH

 

TAMMY DUCKWORTH AND THE

 

COMPTROLLER, IT GOES TO

 

LEGISLATIVE RACES AND

 

PARTICULARLY SOME OF THE REALLY

 

COMPETITIVE ONES WHERE YOU SAW

 

SOME OF THE MADIGAN'S TOP

 

LIEUTENANTS LOSE THEY SAY THAT

 

SHOWS VOTERS ARE NOT HAPPY WITH

 

WHAT IS HAPPENING IN

 

SPRINGFIELD.

 

WE'LL SEE IS THIS GOING TO

 

CHANGE THINGS?

 

OUR BACK IN THE VETO SESSION

 

JUST NEXT WEEK A WEEK FROM

 

TODAY.

 

AND THUS FAR THE LEGISLATIVE

 

LEADERS SAY THEY HAVE NOT BEEN

 

TALKING THEY HAVE BEEN BUSY

 

CAMPAIGNING MAYBE THEY WILL HAVE

 

A MEETING AND GET TOGETHER AND

 

BEGIN TO DISCUSS THINGS.

 

REMEMBER THE TEMPORARY SPENDING

 

PLAN THAT ILLINOIS HAS IN PLACE

 

RUNS OUT AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

 

>> AMANDA VINICKY THANK YOU AND

 

WE APPRECIATE IT AS ALWAYS.

 

AFTER THE BREAK TWO NEWLY

 

ELECTED MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.

 

SO STAY WITH US.

 

>> DONALD TRUMP'S WIN HAS LEFT

 

DEMOCRATS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT

 

HOW TO NEGOTIATE AN UNEXPECTED

 

POLITICAL LANDSCAPE.

 

WHAT IS THE FUTURE FOR DEMOCRATS

 

IN CONGRESS UNDER A TRUMP

 

PRESIDENCY?

 

HERE WITH THEIR INSIGHTS ARE TWO

 

DEMOCRATS VICTORIOUS LAST NIGHT

 

AND GOING TO CONGRESS UNDER

 

CIRCUMSTANCES THEY MAY NOT HAVE

 

BEEN ANTICIPATING.

 

JOINING US ARE BRAD SCHNEIDER,

 

CONGRESSMAN ELECT AND SERVED IN

 

CONGRESS FROM 2013-2015 AND RAJA

 

KRISHNAMOORTHI CONGRESSMAN ELECT

 

IN THE 8TH DISTRICT.

 

WELCOME BACK TO "CHICAGO

 

TONIGHT" AND CONGRATULATIONS ON

 

YOUR RESPECTIVE WINS.

 

>> THANK YOU.

 

>> RAJA KRISHNAMOORTHI WHAT WAS

 

YOUR REACTION TO DONALD TRUMP'S

 

VICTORY?

 

>> YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT --

 

IT WAS OBVIOUSLY UNEXPECTED FOR

 

A LOT OF US.

 

THAT BEING SAID, HE IS THE

 

PRESIDENT-ELECT.

 

WE HAD AN ELECTION.

 

AND IN THIS COUNTRY WE BELIEVE

 

IN A PEACEFUL TRANSITION OF

 

POWER.

 

AND YOU KNOW AS ANY CITIZEN

 

WOULD, I WISH HIM WELL.

 

THAT BEING SAID BASED ON WHAT HE

 

CAMPAIGNED ON, WE HAD A LOT OF

 

DIFFERENCES.

 

I HOPE THAT HE MODERATES HIS

 

POSITIONS.

 

AND WHERE WE CAN AGREE AND WHERE

 

WE CAN HAVE COMMON GROUND I HOPE

 

TO BE A POSITIVE FORCE TO WORK

 

WITH HIM TO GET THINGS DONE FOR

 

WORKING FAMILIES.

 

THE PURPOSE OF OUR CAMPAIGN WAS

 

TO HELP GROW AND STRENGTHEN THE

 

MIDDLE CLASS.

 

>> BRAD SCHNEIDER WHY DO YOU

 

THINK HE HAD TEENER APPEAL?

 

>> IT'S HARD TO SAY I LOOK AT MY

 

DISTRICT.

 

HE DID NOT DO WELL.

 

BUT I THINK AS YOU LOOK AROUND

 

THE NATION PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING

 

THE ECONOMY IS NOT RISING TIDE

 

IS NOT LIFTING ALL SHIPS.

 

AND HE TAPPED INTO THAT.

 

AND MY DISTRICT PEOPLE WORRY

 

ABOUT JOBS AND WORRY ABOUT THE

 

ABILITY TO SEND THEIR KIDS TO

 

COLLEGE AND AFFORD HEALTHCARE

 

AND THEY ARE SEEING AN ECONOMY

 

THAT IS WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE

 

AT THE TOP THAN THOSE IN THE

 

MIDDLE AND BUILDING THE MIDDLE

 

CLASS.

 

>> RAJA KRISHNAMOORTHI HOW IS A

 

TRUMP PRESIDENCY GOING TO AFFECT

 

HOW YOU APPROACH YOUR JOB IN

 

CONGRESS?

 

>> TWO THINGS: ONE WE HAVE TO

 

AVOID DIVISIVE RHETORIC.

 

IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT AT THIS

 

TIME COMING OUT OF THE ELECTION

 

THAT WAS DISHEARTENING BECAUSE

 

OF THE TONE OF THE RHETORIC, WE

 

WANT TO AVOID RHETORIC THAT

 

WOULD BACK US INTO CORNERS.

 

AND SECONDLY WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY

 

PLACES WHERE WE CAN AGREE WHERE

 

WE CAN HAVE COMMON GROUND

 

PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP TALKED

 

ABOUT MAKING TRANSPORTATION A

 

BIG FOCUS OF HIS PRESIDENCY.

 

MODERNIZING AND UPGRADING OUR

 

INFRASTRUCTURE.

 

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I

 

CAMPAIGNED ON AND WE TALKED

 

ABOUT PUTTING FORWARD A NATIONAL

 

INFRASTRUCTURE BANK SO THAT

 

LOCAL TOWNSHIPS AND

 

MUNICIPALITIES CAN COMPLETE

 

PROJECTS AND LIKE THE ELGIN

 

O'HARE EXPRESSWAY WHICH NEITHER

 

REACHES ELGIN OR O'HARE OR THE

 

METRO STAR LINE.

 

IF HE WANTS TO WORK ON THOSE

 

INITIATIVES, HE CAN FIND A

 

PARTNER IN FOLKS LIKE MYSELF WHO

 

BELIEVE IN MODERNIZING

 

INFRASTRUCTURE.

 

>> BRAD SCHNEIDER QUICKLY WHAT

 

IS THE PIN YOU ARE WEARING?

 

>> THE BLUE STAR PIN PARENTS FOR

 

CHILDREN WHO ARE IN THE SERVICE.

 

MY SON IS IN THE NAVY AND TIM

 

KAINE'S SON WAS IN THE MARINES

 

AND HE WAS CRITICIZED THEY

 

CALLED IT A HONDURAN FLAG.

 

>> AND BACK TO THE POINT THAT

 

RAJA KRISHNAMOORTHI WAS MAKING

 

AND THAT IS LOOKING FOR

 

OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH THE

 

PRESIDENT AND YET ON A LOT OF

 

ISSUES THE PRESIDENT-ELECT SAYS

 

HE IS NOT INTERESTED IN SOME OF

 

THE THINGS THAT THE DEMOCRATS

 

HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR

 

EXAMPLE, THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT

 

HE CAMPAIGNED ON A PROMISE TO

 

REPEAL IT.

 

HOW WILL THE DEMOCRATS SUCH AS

 

YOURSELF HANDLE THAT?

 

>> I KNOW FROM TALKING AGAIN TO

 

PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT THAT

 

HEALTHCARE IS CRITICAL THE

 

ABILITY TO PROVIDE CHILDREN

 

HEALTHCARE AND THE FACT THROUGH

 

THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT WE ARE

 

ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE WITH

 

PREEXISTING CONDITIONS GET

 

HEALTHCARE.

 

20 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE

 

HEALTHCARE THAT DIDN'T.

 

>> WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HE SAYS OK

 

I WILL REPEAL THE AFFORDABLE

 

CARE ACT AND NOW I HAVE THE

 

REPUBLICAN MAJORITY IN BOTH

 

HOUSES OF CONGRESS TO DO THAT.

 

WHAT DO YOU DO?

 

>> WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO

 

WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE

 

PROTECT THOSE GAINS THAT WE'VE

 

MADE AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE

 

GOING TO TRY TO PUSHBACK ON IT.

 

BUT THEY HAVE YET TO BRING A

 

ALTERNATIVE.

 

WE MADE THAT SUCCESS SO I THINK

 

TALKING PERSON TO PERSON AND

 

FINDING PEOPLE WHO WILL FIND

 

THAT COMMON GROUND I BELIEVE WE

 

CAN WORK TO PROTECT THE LEGACY

 

OF HEALTHCARE AND CONTINUE TO

 

MOVE FORWARD.

 

IT WILL BE HARD BUT WE HAVE TO

 

CONTINUE TO FIND A WAY TO GO

 

FORWARD.

 

>> RAJA KRISHNAMOORTHI,

 

IMMIGRATION DO YOU EXPECT

 

PRESIDENT TRUMP TO ATTEMPT TO

 

BUILD THE WALL THAT HE TALKED

 

ABOUT?

 

>> WELL, YOU KNOW HE SAID A LOT

 

IN THE CAMPAIGN ABOUT IMMIGRANTS

 

AND SCAPEGOATING VARIOUS GROUPS.

 

MY DISTRICT 30% OF THE RESIDENTS

 

ARE IMMIGRANTS.

 

AND SO IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT

 

THAT I AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF

 

THEM IN THE UNITED STATES

 

CONGRESS ENSURE THAT YOU KNOW WE

 

DON'T GO THE WAY OF SCAPEGOATING

 

THEM.

 

IF HE WANTS TO GO THE WAY OF

 

COMPREHENSIVE NEW IMMIGRATION

 

REFORM I AM GOING TO BE A

 

WILLING PARTNER BUILDING WALLS

 

AND SUCH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T

 

THINK I WILL BE A GREAT ADVOCATE

 

FOR THAT.

 

>> BRAD SCHNEIDER DO YOU THINK

 

HE IS GOING TO TRY AND BUILD THE

 

WALL?

 

>> IN MY VIEW, THE AMERICAN

 

DREAM IS BIG ENOUGH FOR ALL OF

 

US.

 

WE ARE A COUNTRY OF IMMIGRANTS

 

WHERE IMMIGRANTS HAVE CREATED

 

COMPANIES, HELPED CREATE JOBS.

 

>> AGAIN DO YOU THINK HE IS

 

GOING TO BUILD THE WALL?

 

>> WE HAVE TO WORK AGAINST ANY

 

EFFORTS TO DO THAT.

 

I HOPE WE CAN PUSHBACK AGAINST

 

THAT EFFORT.

 

>> OK.

 

YOU BOTH ARE EXPERIENCED CLEARLY

 

AND ADEPT IN THE POLITICAL

 

PROCESS.

 

WILL THERE BE RECRIMINATIONS

 

WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

 

ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT?

 

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW

 

WE DON'T HAVE TIME.

 

WORKING CLASS FAMILIES AND THE

 

MIDDLE CLASS THEY ARE

 

STRUGGLING.

 

THE MAIN REASON I THINK THAT

 

DONALD TRUMP GOT ELECTED IS

 

BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT

 

WASHINGTON IS NOT LISTENING TO

 

THEM.

 

AND IN MY HUMBLE OPINION THEY

 

ARE RIGHT.

 

BUT RATHER THAN APPEAL TO THE

 

WORST INSTINCTS WHICH I BELIEVE

 

THAT DONALD TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN DID

 

WE SHOULD APPEAL TO THE BEST

 

INSTINCTS APPEAL TO THEIR SENSE

 

OF UNITY AND TEAMWORK AND

 

COLLECTIVELY DEALING WITH OUR

 

CHALLENGES.

 

BECAUSE THEY AFFECT ALL PEOPLE

 

NOT JUST ONE ETHNIC GROUP OR

 

ANOTHER BUT ALL AMERICANS.

 

>> AND BRAD HOW ABOUT IT

 

RECRIMINATIONS WITHIN THE

 

DEMOCRATIC PARTY?

 

>> I HOPE WE SEE THE PARTY

 

COMING TOGETHER.

 

THE ONLY WAY WE CAN PUSHBACK

 

AGAINST THE EFFORTS AGAINST

 

PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP AND THE

 

REPUBLICANS IS STANDING TOGETHER

 

AND CONTINUING TO WORK FOR WHAT

 

ARE THE VALUES OF OUR

 

COMMUNITIES AND THE PRIORITIES

 

OF MAKING SURE WE ARE LIFTING

 

PEOPLE UP AND BRINGING THEM

 

TOGETHER RATHER THAN TRYING TO

 

PULL PEOPLE APART.

 

>> WHAT IS YOUR GREATEST FEAR

 

ABOUT A TRUMP PRESIDENCY?

 

>> THE GREATEST FEAR IS THAT

 

WE'RE GOING TO DIVIDE AS A

 

COUNTRY.

 

THE FAULT LINES THAT HAVE

 

STARTED APPEARING DURING THE

 

CAMPAIGN ALONG ETHNIC LINES,

 

RELIGIOUS LINES GENDER LINES

 

WILL GROW.

 

WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT.

 

THERE ARE TOO MANY CHALLENGES

 

THAT THIS COUNTRY FACES THAT

 

REQUIRE COLLECTIVE ACTION

 

TEAMWORK AND UNITY.

 

AND IF WE APPEAL TO THE BEST

 

INSTINCTS IN AMERICANS, BASED ON

 

THOSE VALUES THEN WE HAVE A GOOD

 

CHANCE OF OVERCOMING THE HURDLES

 

THAT WE SEE ON THE HORIZON BUT

 

IF WE DON'T THEN WE WILL BE IN

 

RECRIMINATIONS AND MISSING OUT

 

ON OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW OUR

 

ECONOMY AND HELP ALL AMERICANS

 

BECOME PROSPEROUS.

 

>> BRAD SCHNEIDER LAST NIGHT

 

DONALD TRUMP SAID HE WAS GOING

 

TO BE A PRESIDENT FOR ALL

 

AMERICANS AND PROMISED TO BE

 

FAIR HANDED.

 

DO YOU TAKE HIM AT HIS WORD?

 

>> WE'LL SEE HE HOPE HE WILL.

 

THAT IS WHAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS

 

WE NEED TO HEAL THE WOUNDS.

 

BUT THE PRESIDENCY IS BIGGER

 

THAN ONE PERSON.

 

THE GOVERNMENT IS BIGGER THAN

 

JUST THE PRESIDENCY.

 

GOVERNMENT HAS TO COME TOGETHER.

 

WE NEED A GOVERNMENT THAT IS

 

WORKING FOR ALL AMERICANS THAT

 

IS HELPING ALL FAMILIES AND ALL

 

OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

 

AND I THINK IF WE BUILD STRONGER

 

COMMUNITIES WE WILL HAVE A

 

STRONGER NATION.

 

I HOPE THAT PRESIDENT-ELECT

 

TRUMP MEANT WHAT HE SAID.

 

OUR JOB IN CONGRESS IS STANDING

 

STRONG AND FIGHTING FOR WHAT WE

 

KNOW TO BE THE BEST PATH

 

FORWARD.

 

>> BRAD SCHNEIDER, RAJA

 

KRISHNAMOORTHI THANK YOU BOTH

 

FOR BEING HERE.

 

APPRECIATE IT.

 

>> THANK YOU.

 

>> AND BACK TO WRAP THINGS UP

 

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

 

BEAUTIFUL SHOT OF THE CITY.

 

AND THAT IS OUR SHOW FOR THIS

 

WEDNESDAY NIGHT.

 

I HOPE YOU JOIN US TOMORROW

 

NIGHT LIVE AT 7:00 P.M.

 

FOR ALL OF US HERE AT "CHICAGO

 

TONIGHT" I'M PHIL PONCE AND I

 

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.

 

GOOD NIGHT.

 

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