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>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO
"CHICAGO TONIGHT" I'M PHIL
PONCE.
ON THIS WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER
9TH...
>> I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT DONALD
TRUMP SOMEHOW PENALIZING
CHICAGO.
>> AS PROTESTORS HIT THE STREETS
AT THIS HOUR ADDRESSING WHAT --
ASSESSING WHAT DONALD TRUMP'S
COMING PRESIDENCY MEANINGS FOR
CHICAGO AND WHY MAYOR EMANUEL
SAYS HE DOES NOT EXPECT TRUMP
WILL PUNISH THE CITY.
>>> AMERICA WILL NO LONGER
SETTLE FOR ANYTHING LESS THAN
THE BEST.
>> THEN TAKING STOCK OF WHAT A
TRUMP PRESIDENCY MAY LOOK LIKE.
>>> A VOLATILE INITIAL REACTION
IN MARKETS HERE AND AROUND THE
GLOBE TO THE AMERICAN ELECTION.
SO WHAT WILL TRUMP'S ECONOMIC
IMPACT BE HERE AND ABROAD?
>>> NO ONE TALKED TO ME ABOUT
HOW THIS MERGER IS GOING TO TAKE
PLACE.
>> COOK COUNTY VOTERS GIVE THE
GO AHEAD TO ELIMINATE THE COOK
COUNTY RECORDER OF DEEDS OFFICE.
IT WAS ONE OF TWO MAJOR
REFERENDA ON YESTERDAY'S BALLOT.
A LOOK AT THE IMPLICATIONS.
>>> REPUBLICANS BREAK MILD
MADIGAN'S SUPER MAJORITY IN THE
HOUSE.
WHAT IMPACT WILL THAT HAVE ON
FIXING THE STATE'S PROBLEMS?
THE LATEST FROM SPRINGFIELD.
>> WHAT UNITES US, LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN, FAR OUTWEIGHS
ANYTHING THAT DIVIDES US.
>> TONIGHT'S VICTORY HERE IN
THIS ROOM IS A BRIGHT SPOT IN AN
OTHERWISE DARKENING.
>> AND TWO VEHICLEIOUS ILLINOIS
DEMOCRATS ON THEIR WAY TO
WASHINGTON TELL US HOW THEY PLAN
TO WORK WITH A TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION.
ALL THAT AND MORE NEXT ON
"CHICAGO TONIGHT."
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>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US
HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENING IN
CHICAGO TONIGHT.
BUN OF COOK COUNTY'S NEWLY
ELECTED JUDGES WILL NOT BE
ALLOWED TO TAKE HER SEAT ON THE
BENCH.
RHONDA CRAWFORD IS THE CLERK WHO
IS ALLEGED TO HAVE PUT ON A ROBE
AND PRESIDED OVER TRAFFIC CASES
IN AUGUST.
SHE CONTINUES HER RUN FOR JUDGE
THOUGH THE INCIDENT LEFT HER
UNDER INDICTMENT UNDER FELONY
AND MISDEMEANOR CHARGES.
THE ILLINOIS SUPREME COURT
SUSPENDED HER LAW LICENSE AND
BARRED HER FROM BEING SWORN IN
IF SHE WON.
THE STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS
DECLARED CRAWFORD THE WINNER BUT
IF SHE PERMANENTLY LOSES HER LAW
LICENSE IN A HEARING OR
CONVICTED OF A FELONY CHARGE SHE
WILL BE PERMANENTLY INELIGIBLE.
CRAWFORD PLEADED NOT GUILTY TO
THE CHARGES.
>> ANOTHER RACIALLY CHARGED
CONFRONTATION IN THE MOUNT
GREENWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD.
A MOSTLY BLACK GROUP OF 25
ACTIVISTS ARRIVED AT THE FAR
SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD TO
PROTEST THE FATAL POLICE
SHOOTING OVER THE WEEKEND OF
25-YEAR-OLD JOSHUA BEAL.
THEY WERE MET BY A LARGER GROUP
OF BLUE LIVES MATTER SUPPORTERS
DROWNING OUT CHANTS WITH REVVED
MOTORCYCLE ENGINES AND SHOUTS OF
GO HOME.
MOUNT GREEN WEED WAS THE SEEN OF
CONFRONTATIONS WHICH BLACK
PROTESTORS HAD TO BE ESCORTED
AWAY BY POLICE.
>>> AS FOR THE WEATHER CLEAR
TONIGHT WITH A LOW AROUND 39.
AND TOMORROW SHOULD BE SUNNY
WITH A HIGH NEAR 61.
>>> AND COMING UP, WHAT IS AT
STAKE FOR CHICAGO IN A DONALD
TRUMP PRESIDENCY?
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>> A SENSE OF ANXIETY AND
DISAPPOINTMENT AMONG MANY CITY
OF CHICAGO ELECTED OFFICIALS.
THE CITY OVERWHELMINGLY WENT
WITH DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE HILLARY
CLINTON BUT WILL NOW HAVE TO
WORK WITH A PRESIDENT TRUMP.
SOME ARE WE ARED ABOUT WHAT IT
MEANS FOR CHICAGO'S IMMIGRANT
POPULATION, FEDERAL FUNDING AND
MORE AFTER EFFORTS TO REMOVE
TRUMP'S HONORARY STREET SIGN.
PARIS SCHUTZ HAS THE LATEST.
>> A PROTEST BEGAN OUTSIDE TRUMP
TOWER IN RIVER NORTH THIS
EVENING.
IT IS STILL GOING ON AT THIS
HOUR AND HAS GROWN TO BE
NUMBERED POSSIBLY OVER 1,000
PEOPLE.
THEY HAVE MARCHED DOWN INTO THE
LOOP AND THEN DOWN SOUTH
MICHIGAN AVENUE BLOCKING
TRAFFIC.
OBVIOUSLY REGISTERING THEIR
DISAPPROVAL WITH PRESIDENT-ELECT
TRUMP.
AND IT REFLECT THE GLOOM MOOD OF
MANY CHICAGO ELECTED OFFICIALS
MOST MEMBERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY AND THEY SUPPORTED THEIR
NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT.
AND THEIR CONCERN AMONG LATINO
ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO HAVE
SPOKEN WITH THEIR CONSTITUENTS
WHO ARE FULL OF ANXIETY
HARKENING BACK TO TRUMP'S
RHETORIC ABOUT DEPORTING
UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS AND
OVERTURNING EXECUTIVE ORDERS
THAT KEEP COLLEGE STUDENTS
UNDOCUMENTED THE SO-CALLED
DREAMERS, HERE IN THE COUNTRY OR
KEEPING THE UNDOCUMENTED PARENTS
OF AMERICAN BORN CHILDREN THE
SO-CALLED DOCA PARENTS HERE.
MAYOR EMANUEL SAYS CHICAGO WILL
REMAIN A WELCOMING CITY FOR
IMMIGRANTS.
BUT OTHERS ARE NOT SO SURE.
>> IT IS EXTREMELY DEPRESSING.
I KNOW A NUMBER OF DREAMERS AND
DOPA FAMILIES WHO HAVE ALL THEIR
INFORMATION HAS BEEN TURNED INTO
DC BECAUSE OF THE PRESIDENT'S
EXECUTIVE ORDER.
AND NOW ACCORDING TO WHAT TRUMP
HAS PROFESSED, THEY ARE IN
DANGER OF GOING BACK.
THERE'S REALLY SAD FAMILIES THAT
ARE NOW WORRYING WHAT IS GOING
TO HAPPEN NEXT.
>> I THINK THE IMMIGRANT
COMMUNITY IS STRONG A COMMUNITY
THAT HAS PROVEN WE CAN FIGHT AND
DEFEND OUR AVERAGES UNDER ATTACK
BY POLITICIANS THAT WANT TO PUSH
POLICIES THAT HURT US.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE WILL SEE IF
DONALD TRUMP ATTEMPTS TO HURT
OUR COMMUNITY.
>> DO NOT LOSE HOPE BECAUSE
AMERICA EMBRACES YOU.
TWO, I WILL BE CLEAR THAT THE
CITY OF CHICAGO AT MANY, MANY
DIFFERENT LEVELS, EDUCATION OF
THEIR CHILDREN IN PRIMARY
EDUCATION, THROUGH THE MUNICIPAL
ID, THROUGH THE WAYS WE MAKE
SURE THAT CITY SERVICES ARE
ACCESSED AND ALSO THAT YOUR KIDS
CAN GO ON TO AT LEAST COMMUNITY
COLLEGE BECAUSE OF THE CHICAGO
STAR.
YOUR STRUGGLES YOUR SACRIFICE
YOUR DREAMS FOR YOUR CHILDREN
ARE HONORED HERE.
>> CHICAGO IS A SO-CALLED
SANCTUARY CITY FOR I AM GRANTS.
IT'S UNCLEAR HOW FEDERAL LAW
MIGHT INTERACT WITH HOME RULE ON
THAT SHOULD FEDERAL LAW CHANGE
GOING FORWARD MANY AND LAST
NIGHT'S HUMBLING DEFEAT CAUSED
LOCAL DEMOCRATS TO PONDER WHERE
EXACTLY THEIR PARTY HAS GONE
WRONG.
>> THE DEMOCRATS LOST LAST NIGHT
FOR A REASON DEMOCRATS LOSE A
LOT IS WE HAVE NOT TOLD A CLEAR
STORY TO THE PEOPLE WHAT IS
WRONG AND HOW TO FIX IT.
DONALD TRUMP HAS A STORY THAT
IT'S IMMIGRANTS AND MUSLIMS ARE
A PROBLEM.
BRUCE RAUNER SAYS LABOR UNIONS
ARE THE PROBLEM AND WE HAVE NOT
TOLD A STORY ABOUT WHAT IS
WRONG.
AND IT'S GUYS LIKE THEM THAT ARE
THE PROBLEM.
THE BILLIONAIRES WHO HAVE EARNED
MORE MONEY AND HELD DOWN WAGES
FOR WORKING PEOPLE.
AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO TELL
THE STORY OF WHAT IS WRONG WERE
IN THIS COUNTRY INCOME
INEQUALITY AND CORPORATE PROFIT
OUT OF CONTROL AND WE CAN FIX IT
BY INVESTING IN THE PEOPLE IN
THE STATE.
>> PARIS THERE WAS NOISE ABOUT
THE COUNCIL'S EFFORT TO REMOVE
AN HONORARY TRUMP STREET SIGN IS
THAT GOING TO HAPPEN?
>> NO ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION
FROM THE MAYOR TODAY OR ANY OF
THE SPONSORS OF THAT.
WE DON'T KNOW.
AND CHICAGO WAS PORTRAYED IN A
HARSH LIGHT DURING A LOT OF THE
DEBATES WHERE PRESIDENT-ELECT
TRUMP HIGHLIGHTED THE HIGH
MURDER RATE HERE AND THE CITY
RELIES ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
IF BILLIONS IN FUNDING FOR
TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, FOR
INSTANCE, THE CTA RED LINE
EXTENSION AND MAYOR EMANUEL SAID
TODAY HE IS NOT WORRIED THAT THE
FEDERAL SPIGOT IS GOING TO DRY
UP.
>> I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT DONALD
TRUMP SOMEHOW PENALIZE CHICAGO.
CITIES TODAY ARE THE MAJOR
ECONOMIC CULTURAL INTELLECTUAL
ENERGY OF THE ECONOMY.
AND IT'S INCUMBENT UPON AN
ADMINISTRATION TO SEE THAT
STRENGTH AND INVEST IN IT AND I
WILL MAKE THAT CASE QUITE
LOUDLY.
>> I THINK THE MAYOR HAS TO GO
TO WASHINGTON RIGHT AWAY AND
COLLECT AS MUCH OF THE NETWORKS
THAT HE HAS TO GET THEIR MONEY
THAT THE CITY NEEDS BEFORE THE
END OF THE YEAR.
>> AND THE MAYOR WILL BE GOING
TO WASHINGTON RIGHT AWAY.
HE IS HEADING TO WASHINGTON D.C.
TOMORROW TO TALK ABOUT VARIOUS
CHICAGO-RELATED ISSUES.
NO WORD WHETHER HE IS MEETING
WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA OR THE
PRESIDENT-ELECT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AND NOW TO CAROL MARIN AND A
LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED AT POLLS
AROUND THE COUNTRY YESTERDAY.
CAROL?
>> PHIL, THANK YOU.
>> DONALD TRUMP DEFIED POLITICAL
NORMS TO REACH THE HIGHEST
OFFICE IN THE LAND.
POLLS AND PREDICTIVE MODELS
SUGGESTED HILLARY CLINTON WAS
GOING TO WIN PERHAPS EVEN
HANDILY.
BUT ON ELECTION DAY TRUMP TORE
THROUGH KEY BATTLEGROUND STATES
LIKE FLORIDA AND PENNSYLVANIA.
PULLED OFF SURPRISES IN
WISCONSIN AND MICHIGAN AND
ROLLED TO VICTORY.
CLINTON MEANWHILE IS LIKELY TO
EMERGE WITH A VICTORY IN THE
POPULAR VOTE BUT NOT THE
ELECTORAL COLLEGE.
THE COUNTRY SEEMS MORE DIVIDED
THAN EVER.
WILL PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP UNITE
THIS COUNTRY LIKE HE SUGGESTED
IN HIS VICTORY SPEECH OR DEEPEN
THE BREACH AFTER HIS
CONTROVERSIAL CAMPAIGN RHETORIC?
HERE TO DISCUSS TRUMP'S WIN ARE
JOEL WEISMAN HOST OF "CHICAGO
TONIGHT", THE WEEK IN REVIEW
SEEN HERE FRIDAYS AT 7:00 P.M.
ON CHANNEL 11.
>> LAUREL HARBRIDGE YONG
ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF POLITICAL
SCIENCE AT NORTHWESTERN
UNIVERSITY.
>>> PAT BRADY, A FORMER CHAIRMAN
OF THE ILLINOIS REPUBLICAN PARTY
AND A CONSULTANT AND FOUNDER OF
THE LOBBYING AND PUBLIC
RELATIONS FIRM NEXT GENERATION
PUBLIC AFFAIRS.
>>> AND THE CURRENT CHAIRMAN OF
THE ILLINOIS REPUBLICAN PARTY
COOK COUNTY COMMISSIONER TIM
SCHNEIDER WELCOME ALL OF YOU
BACK TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."
VERY QUICK SURVEY TO BEGIN.
LET'S START WITH THE TWO
REPUBLICANS HERE.
TIM, SURPRISED BY TRUMP'S
VICTORY LAST NIGHT?
>> WE WERE SURPRISED.
MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT THERE WOULD
BE AN UNDERGROUND OF PEOPLE THAT
DID NOT WANT TO SAY THEY WERE
FOR TRUMP BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE
NASTY THINGS THAT HE HAD SAID.
BUT BEHIND THE SCENES AGREED
WITH THE POLICIES OF SECURITYING
OUR --
SECURING OUR BORDERS AND BRING
IN JOBS BACK.
YEAH, WE WERE A LITTLE
SURPRISED.
WE HAVE BEEN IN OUR STATE RACES
I THINK THAT WE EXPECTED TO WIN
STATE RACES BECAUSE WE HAD BEEN
DOING POLLING AND THOUGHT WE
WOULD HAVE SUCCESS THERE BUT IN
THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE, WE WERE A
LITTLE SURPRISED.
>> PAT BRADY?
>> SURPRISED.
I WAS NOT A FAN OF DONALD TRUMP
BUT WE HAD A BIG NIGHT AND KEPT
THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE AND GOT
THE PRESIDENCY AND ILLINOIS
PICKED UP FOUR SEATS.
SO I THINK REPUBLICANS HAD A
GOOD YEAR AND THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY 24 HOURS AGO WAS ALMOST
DEAD AND NOW TALKING ABOUT IN
2018 PICKING UP MORE SEATS IN
THE SENATE IT WAS A GOOD NIGHT.
>> LAUREL IS A PROFESSOR
POLITICAL SCIENTIST SURPRISED?
>> ABSOLUTELY SURPRISED.
>> AND JOEL WEISMAN?
>> ABSOLUTELY SURPRISED AND ONE
OF THE REASONS I'M SURPRISED IS
BECAUSE I'M PART OF THAT GROUP
THINK WHICH IS THE MEDIA AND THE
MEDIA DOESN'T TRY TO DIVERGE
INTO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND WE
WERE TOLD ALL BY AND OUR
GROUPIES AND THE POLLS THAT HE
WAS A GONER.
AND OBVIOUSLY HE WASN'T.
AND IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE WAY
WE COVER ELECTIONS AND PRECISELY
HOW WE DON'T COVER THEM.
>> ARE THE POLL AND MODELS DEAD
IN TERMS OF USEFULNESS?
>> I THINK A LOT OF THINGS ARE
DEAD.
CONVENTIONAL COMMERCIALS ARE IN
PART DEAD.
I THINK NEGATIVE CAMPAIGNING
WHICH HILLARY DID DID NOT HELP
HER AND SOME WILL GO BY THE
BOARDS.
AND THE POLLS WE TAKE AND THE
TEMPERATURE WE USE IN THE POLLS
HAS GOT TO BE REVISED INSIDE THE
TRUMP CAMPAIGN THEY OBVIOUSLY
HAD BETTER TECHNOLOGY.
I MEAN HE KNEW WHEN PEOPLE WERE
SAYING WHY ARE YOU GOING TO
WISCONSIN?
WHY ARE YOU GOING TO MINNESOTA?
HE HAD INDICATIONS FROM SOME
SURVEYS THAT THOSE WERE
CAPTURABLE STATES.
>> LAUREL FROM AN ACADEMIC
STANDPOINT AND A RESEARCH
STANDPOINT DO YOU VIEW THE POLLS
AND PREDICTIVE MODELS AS DEAD OR
TOO PROBLEMATIC TO USE NOW?
>> I WOULD NOT SAY THEY ARE DEAD
BUT I THINK PEOPLE HAVE TO THINK
HARD WITHIN THIS INDUSTRY ABOUT
HOW THEY ARE USING THESE POLLS
AND THE TYPES OF ASSUMPTIONS
THEY ARE COMFORTABLE MAKING.
A COUPLE OF THE ASPECTS WHICH I
THINK HAVE BEEN IMPORTANT IN
THIS ELECTION CYCLE WE KNOW IN
GENERAL THERE'S LOW RESPONSE
RATES TO POLLS.
SO THERE ARE MORE ASSUMPTIONS
THAT ARE MADE SAYING THAT YOU
CONTACTED A RANDOM GROUP OF
PEOPLE.
IN THIS ELECTION I THINK TWO
FACTORS MAY HAVE BEEN
PROBLEMATIC.
ONE IS HOW YOU WEIGHT THE
INDIVIDUALS WHO DO RESPOND TO
YOUR SURVEY.
>> BECAUSE THEY ARE SALTED AND
PEPPERED BASED ON WHAT YOU THINK
YOU ARE MISSING?
>> RIGHT.
YOU ARE TRYING TO GET BACK TO
THAT SAMPLE FROM THE PEOPLE WHO
ARE WILLING TO TALK TO YOU.
AND THE OTHER PART AND THE
BIGGEST PART OF WHAT WENT WRONG
IN THE POLLS IS HOW THE
DIFFERENT POLLING FIRMS
PREDICTED WHO WAS GOING TO
TURNOUT.
THE LIKELY VOTER MODELS.
AND ACROSS THE POLLING FIRMS ONE
OF THE BIGGEST FACTORS THAT GOES
INTO THE LIKELY VOTER MODELS IS
WHETHER OR NOT YOU TURNED OUT TO
VOTE IN THE LAST ELECTIONS.
AND IF THE PAST ELECTIONS
AFRICAN-AMERICANS WERE VERY
EXCITED TO TURNOUT.
BARACK OBAMA WAS THE NOMINEE.
THOSE INDIVIDUALS WERE PERHAPS
LESS EXCITED FOR HILLARY
CLINTON.
ON THE OTHER SIDE, WHITE
INDIVIDUALS WHITE NONCOLLEGE
EDUCATED MALES PERHAPS TURNED
OUT LOWER RATES FOR OBAMA, AND
HIGHER RATES NOW.
>> PAT BRADY, THE GREAT
COLUMNIST ALWAYS SAID IF A
POLLSTER CALLS YOU LIE TO HIM.
>> I DO IT.
>> DO WE THINK IN FACT I MEAN
YOUR BUSINESS RELIES ON POLLS
FOCUS GROUPS --
>> PROBABLY THREE ELECTION
CYCLES HAVE BEEN GARBAGE THE
DIFFERENCE IS THE INTERNAL POLLS
WHEN GOVERNOR RAUNER AND TIM
LIVED THIS I WAS HEARING FROM
EVERYBODY HE IS DOWN FIVE BUT
THE INTERNAL POLLS WERE THAT HE
WAS UP.
THE INTERNAL POLLS TALK TO MORE
PEOPLE.
THE ARE VERY ACCURATE.
THEY DID HAVE ACCURATE POLLS
BECAUSE YOU READ ARTICLES TODAY
ABOUT THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN WAS
WORRIED AND THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN
KNEW WHERE TO GO SO THERE'S
ACCURATE POLLING.
THE PUBLIC POLLING HAS BEEN BAD.
>> DO YOU AGREE?
>> I SAW MOST OF OUR STATE HOUSE
AND SENATE RACES WAS ACCURATE AS
WE MOVED ALONG IN THE PROCESS.
WE PREDICTED THAT WE WERE GOING
TO WIN THE EXACTLY THE NUMBER OF
SEATS THAT WE DID IN BOTH THE
HOUSE AND THE SENATE.
WE KNEW IT WOULD BE A --
>> THAT IS YOUR OPTIMISM, AND
YOU WOULD BE HAPPY AND A VICTORY
IF YOU WON ONE SEAT.
>> LET'S SAY THIS.
>> THAT IS NOT POLLING THAT IS
SPIN.
>> SINCE THE REMAP THERE HAS NOT
BEEN A REPUBLICAN HOUSE MEMBER
THAT WON AN ELECTION SINCE 2010.
WE ARE IN A PRESIDENTIAL YEAR
AND A PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE LOST
BY 17 POINTS AND WE PICK UP FOUR
HOUSE SEATS AND TWO SENATE
SEATS.
I WOULD SAY THAT IS A GOOD YEAR
FOR REPUBLICANS IN ILLINOIS.
AND AS PAT SAID EARLIER WE KEEP
THE U.S. HOUSE AND THE U.S.
SENATE AND OUR PRESIDENTIAL
NOMINEE GETS ELECTED NATIONALLY.
I SAY WE DID HAVE A GOOD DAY.
>> ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH
POLLS AND REPORTING ON POLLS IS
THAT WE COVER THE ELECTIONS AS
HORSERACES.
AND THE POLL IF WE ARE GOING TO
ONLY RELY ON POLLS TO BE
PREDICTIVE, WE ARE MISSING A
LOT.
OBVIOUSLY WE ARE MISSING WHEN
PEOPLE ARE NOT TRUTHFUL AND WE
ARE MISSING WHEN THE POLLS DO
NOT ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.
BUT YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT TO DO
SOME ADDITIONAL DIGGING.
AND FOR THE MOST PART, THE
INVESTIGATING AND THE FACT
CHECKING WAS LIGHT THIS TIME.
>> DID THESE RESEARCH MODELS
FAIL TO DETECT WHITE HIGH SCHOOL
EDUCATED MEN WHO WERE GOING TO
RISE UP AND THE NUMBERS THEY DID
AND GO FOR TRUMP, BEYOND BLACK
VOTES AND BEYOND LATINO VOTES?
>> I THINK THEY IDENTIFIED THAT
THE INDIVIDUALS WERE STRONG
SUPPORTERS OF TRUMP WHERE THEY
MISSED HOW MUCH THEY WERE GOING
TO TURNOUT.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RETURNS
YOU LOOK AT PARTS OF WISCONSIN
AND PARTS OF FLORIDA THAT IN THE
RURAL AREAS YOU SAW A TURNOUT
RATES THAT WERE NOT WHAT PEOPLE
EXPECTED.
>> WHAT ROLE DID MISOGYNY PLAY,
THE IDEA --
WE COULD EIGHT YEARS AGO ELECT
AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAN TO THE
PRESIDENCY.
BUT WE STILL WOULD NOT SEE FIT
TO ELECT A WOMAN TO THE
PRESIDENCY?
IS THERE SOMETHING TO THAT?
>> I THINK HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN
WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
AND SHE DROPPED FAIRLY EARLY ON
THE WHOLE IDEA IT COULD BE AN
HISTORIC ELECTION AND A CHANCE
TO BREAK THE GLASS CEILING.
>> SHE LEFT THAT CONVERSATION
BEHIND.
>> SHE LEFT THAT CONVERSATION AT
THE VEHICLES AND SHE SUSPECTED
THAT THERE WAS MISOGYNY AT PLAY.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE
STATISTICS, HER AMOUNT OF FEMALE
SUPPORT WAS THE SAME THAT OBAMA
GOT.
AND TRUMP GOT MORE FEMALE
SUPPORT THAN PEOPLE HAD THOUGHT.
>> HOW DO WE SQUARE THE FACT TIM
AND PAT, THAT SO MANY AMERICANS
WHETHER THEY IDENTIFY AS
REPUBLICAN, INDEPENDENT,
DEMOCRAT, DON'T LIKE EITHER ONE
OF THEM.
DON'T FEEL EITHER ONE OF THEM IS
TRUTH WORTHY.
AND YET, ARE CELEBRATING A TRUMP
WIN.
>> WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO
WHAT JOEL SAID I REJECT THE
NOTION THAT PEOPLE WOULD OR
WOULD NOT VOTE FOR HILLARY
CLINTON BECAUSE SHE WAS A WOMAN.
I THINK IT WAS MORE ABOUT HER
CHARACTER AND THE E-MAIL SCANDAL
AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE
HAD DONE WITH BENGHAZI.
AND PEOPLE DID NOT WANT TO GO IN
THAT DIRECTION AND REJECTED FOUR
MORE YEARS OF WHAT WE HAD HAD
FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.
AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT THIS
ELECTION WAS ALL ABOUT.
IS REMAINING WITH THE STATUS QUO
BUSINESS AS USUAL.
OR TAKING THE COUNTRY IN A NEW
DIRECTION.
>> AND THAT NEW DIRECTION BY
TRUMP'S WORDS ARE ANTI-MUSLIM,
ANTI-MEXICAN, ANTIWOMAN DOES
THAT SUGGEST A NEW DIRECTION?
>> AND YET IN THE ELECTION YOU
SAW THAT MORE HISPANICS CAME OUT
AND VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP.
MORE AFRICAN-AMERICANS THAN
PREDICTED CAME OUT AND VOTED FOR
DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE WE SEE WHAT
IS HAPPENING IN OUR
INNER-CITIES.
WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE CRIME IN
CHICAGO AND MANY OF OUR CITIES
IN OUR NATION MANY PEOPLE
BELIEVE THAT DONALD TRUMP COULD
TAKE US IN A NEW DIRECTION AND
START REBUILDING OUR CITIES AND
CREATING JOBS AND BRINGING
BUSINESSES BACK TO OUR SHORES.
>> MANY PEOPLE NEVER VOTED
BEFORE AND WITH TWO NEGATIVE
CHOICES WHY DON'T A I TAKE A
CHANCE THAT THE ONE WHO IS AN
OUTSIDER AS A LAST-DITCH EFFORT
MAY TURN THINGS AROUND.
>> AND THE OTHER THING WE HAVE
TO REMEMBER IS THE POWER OF
PEOPLE'S PARTY IDENTIFICATION.
THAT AS MUCH AS PEOPLE MAY HAVE
DISLIKED THINGS ABOUT EITHER
CANDIDATE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
EXIT POLLS WHAT I SAW TODAY WAS
THAT 90% OF SELF IDENTIFIED
REPUBLICANS SAID THEY ENDED UP
VOTING FOR TRUMP AND AIDE 89% OF
DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR CLINTON.
DESPITE THE FACT THAT TRUMP WAS
NOT YOUR TRADITIONAL REPUBLICAN
CANDIDATE DID NOT ESPOUSE
TRADITIONAL CONSERVATIVE
PRINCIPLES REPUBLICANS CAME HOME
TO HIM.
AND IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS PEOPLE
WHO HAD BEEN SAYING THEY WERE
VOTING FOR THIRD PARTY
CANDIDATES CAME HOME TO THE
PARTIES IN A LARGE DEGREE.
>> DONALD TRUMP SOME OF THE
STUFF HE DID WAS DISGUSTING.
THE LIFELONG REPUBLICAN, I WAS
EMBARRASSED BY THE CAMPAIGN HE
RAN.
BUT THE REALITY HE IS THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
FOR WHATEVER REASON.
A LITTLE BIT OF IT BECAUSE
HILLARY CLINTON WAS NOT A GOOD
CANDIDATE AND WE DON'T DO
CORONATIONS AND SHE HAD A
PROBLEM WITH HONESTY AND DONALD
TRUMP IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES.
THE SUGGESTIONS THAT HE IS
SOMEHOW EVIL OR WHATEVER HE DID
DURING THE CAMPAIGN WE HAVE TO
GO FORWARD.
WE HAVE A NEW PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES AND WE DON'T NEED
16 MORE YEARS OF WHAT WE SAW
WITH GEORGE BUSH OR BARACK OBAMA
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS TO
DEAL WITH.
>> WHAT HAPPENS THERE?
BECAUSE OF THE FRACTIOUS NATURE
OF THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY THEY
ATE THEIR YOUNG AMONG THOSE
CANDIDATES.
AND NOW, IN THE SENATE, MARCO
RUBIO IS BACK AND TED CRUZ.
>> HOLD ON A SECOND.
WE'VE GOT ELIZABETH WARREN AND
BERNIE SANDERS WHO CAME CLOSER
TO GETTING A NOMINATION THAN
HILLARY CLINTON DID IN 2008 THAT
WILL BE PULLING THIS PARTY TO
THE LEFT AND THEY DO NOT HAVE A
LEADER.
>> MY QUESTION IS ABOUT
REPUBLICANS AND HOW THEY FIRST
OF ALL HOW THEY PUT IT BACK
TOGETHER AGAIN BECAUSE MITCH
McCONNELL DID NOT WANT TO TALK
ABOUT IT --
>> I THINK WE ARE ALREADY
PUTTING IT BACK TOGETHER.
PAUL RYAN WAS PUTTING IT BACK
TOGETHER THIS MORNING.
THE BUSHES WERE PUTTING IT BACK
TOGETHER.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS ALL
ABOUT UNITY.
WE ARE TRYING TO BRING IT
TOGETHER.
I WAS AMAZED BY THE CONCILIATORY
MOOD OF SECRETARY CLINTON AND
BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT OUR
PRESIDENTIAL --
PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP SAID.
THIS IS WHAT WE DO AS A NATION.
THAT IS WHAT IS GREAT ABOUT THE
UNITED STATES.
WE COME TOGETHER.
AND ALONG WITH THAT, THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY WILL COME
TOGETHER AND UNITE BEHIND DONALD
TRUMP.
>> BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S A
LOT MORE TO IT WITHIN THE PARTY.
I THINK AT THIS TIME AFTER THE
ELECTION OF COURSE EVERYONE
WANTS TO GIVE AT LEAST LIP
SERVICE TO THE UNITY AND PERHAPS
THERE IS A REAL GOAL FOR THAT.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS
CLEAR-CUT WHAT WE WILL SEE
WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
GOING FORWARD.
>> THERE'S UNITY WHEN YOU SAID
THAT EVERYBODY RETURNED TO THE
PARTY.
>> THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT
THINGS.
ONE IS THAT VOTERS FOLLOWED
THEIR PARTY IDENTIFICATION AND
THE OTHER IS WITHIN CONGRESS YOU
ALREADY HAVE A DIVIDE BETWEEN
YOUR HOUSE FREEDOM CAUCUS
REPUBLICANS AND YOUR MORE
TRADITIONAL REPUBLICANS.
DONALD TRUMP ESPOUSES A BRAND OF
REPUBLICANISM THAT IS DIFFERENT
THAN BOTH OF THOSE.
AND I DO NOT THINK THAT IT'S
NECESSARILY CLEAR-CUT WHAT THAT
AGENDA WOULD BE THAT THEY WOULD
UNITE BEHIND.
>> THAT IS WHY IT'S UP TO HIM
RIGHT NOW.
HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES COME UP WITH
SOMETHING SOME AGENDA THAT THE
COUNTRY CAN AGREE UPON AND I
LIKED WHAT HILLARY CLINTON
SUGGESTED HOW ABOUT A BIG
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT THAT
EVERYBODY CAN AGREE ON.
HOW ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND GIVE HIM A CHANCE.
TO SUGGEST THIS IS ABOUT IT'S
NOT GOING TO WORK.
HE HAS ONLY BEEN ELECTED 12
HOURS.
>> AND I DO NOT THINK ANYBODY IS
SUGGESTING THAT IT'S ALL
DIVIDED.
>> THE QUESTION SUGGESTED IT.
>> HOW DO YOU IN THE LONG-TERM
NOT THE SHORT-TERM, PIECE THIS
TOGETHER?
BUT ONE LAST QUICK QUESTION WE
ARE ABOUT OUT OF TIME TO MEDIA
JOEL DOES THE MEDIA HAVE A PLACE
AT THIS TABLE?
OR HAVE THEY --
HAVE WE IN CRITICAL WAYS
FORSAKEN OUR OWN PLACE?
>> I THINK WE HAVE
UNFORTUNATELY.
AND WE'VE DONE IT BUYER REPORTS
IN THE WAY WE COVERED THESE
THINGS.
AND WE'RE DOING IT BY OTHER
FORCES THAT WERE BUFFETTED BY
NAMELY THE INTERNET AND TWITTER
AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WHICH DO NOT HAVE THE SAME
STANDARDS THAT THE MEDIA DOES.
>> SOUL SEARCHING OR A LOT OF
SOUL SEARCHING.
>> A LOT OF SOUL SEARCHING AND
CHANGING THE TEMPLATE.
>> JOEL WEISMAN, LAUREL
HARBRIDGE YONG, PAT BRADY, TIM
SCHNEIDER THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR BEING WITH US ON "CHICAGO
TONIGHT."
UP NEXT A LOOK AT WHAT A TRUMP
PRESIDENCY MAY MEAN TO THE
ECONOMY.
SO STAY WITH US.
>> STILL TO COME ON "CHICAGO
TONIGHT", COOK COUNTY VOTERS
TELL THE RECORDER OF DEEDS
OFFICE TO CLOSE-UP SHOP.
>>> THE LATEST ON GOVERNOR
RAUNER AND SPEAKER MADIGAN'S
BATTLE FOR POWER IN SPRINGFIELD.
>> AND TWO LOCAL DEMOCRATS
HEADING TO CONGRESS SHARE THEIR
THOUGHTS ON THE TRUMP VICTORY.
>> FIRST DONALD TRUMP'S ELECTION
ROILED GLOBAL MARKETS LAST NIGHT
AND IS MORE MARKET VOLATILITY IN
STORE?
THE PRESIDENT-ELECT PROMISED
MASSIVE TAX CUTS, THRILLIAN
DOLLAR INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING
AND TEARING UP TRADE AGREEMENTS.
WHAT WILL BE THE IMPACT OF A
TRUMP PRESIDENCY ON THE ECONOMY
HERE AND ABROAD?
JOINING US WITH ANSWERS ARE
EDWARD STUART PROFESSOR EMERITUS
OF ECONOMICS AT NORTHEASTERN
ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY AND MICHAEL
MILLER ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF
ECONOMICS AT DEPAUL'S COLLEGE OF
BUSINESS.
WELCOME BACK TO "CHICAGO
TONIGHT."
>> I'M INTERESTED IN THE
REACTION TO THE RESULTS.
MICHAEL MILLER YOUR REACTION TO
TRUMP'S VICTORY?
>> I WAS SURPRISED.
I AM A REPUBLICAN, A
CONSERVATIVE AND I VOTED FOR
GARY JOHNSON.
I HAD BEEN ASKED WHICH ONE OF
THE TWO CANDIDATES DO I THINK
WOULD DO LESS HARM?
AND I HAD THOUGHT IT WOULD BE
HILLARY CLINTON BUT THAT WAS
WELL BEFORE SOME OF THE STUFF
CAME OUT AND HER BAD JUDGMENT.
I THINK WE ARE STUCK WITH
SOMEBODY WHO WE CAN WORK WITH.
AND IT WILL NOT BE THE END OF
THE WORLD.
>> NOT THE END OF THE WORLD
STUART?
>> MAYBE CLOSE TO IT.
>> WHY?
>> I WAS SHOCKED.
AND STILL SOMEWHAT INCREDULOUS.
ONE OF THE PROBLEMS OF COURSE IS
THAT DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T REALLY
HAVE ANY ECONOMIC IDEAS.
AND DOESN'T HAVE SPECIFIC PLANS.
AND HAS KIND OF SLOGANS AND
BLEEPS MOST OF WHICH ARE NOT
TRUE.
ONE OF THE PANELISTS TALKED
ABOUT CRIME RISING.
CRIME IS FALLING.
AND DONALD TRUMP TALKED ABOUT
MANUFACTURING JOBS LEAVING AND
MANUFACTURING EMPLOYMENT IS UP
IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND DONALD TRUMP AT ONE TIME
SAID THE TRUE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE
WAS 40%.
ONLY AN IDIOT WOULD BELIEVE
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THE QUESTION OF WHAT COMES NEXT
IS PRETTY SEVERE AND I THINK THE
CONSEQUENCES COULD BE PRETTY
BAD.
AND THE STOCK MARKET I THINK IS
GIVING US AN INDICATION THAT
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BAD FOR
EVERYBODY JUST FOR THE PEOPLE
WHO VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP.
>> MICHAEL MILLER WHO WILL
BENEFIT FROM A TRUMP PRESIDENCY
IN TERMS OF THEIR ECONOMIC
STATUS AND WELL-BEING?
>> WELL, IF HE GETS WHAT HE
WANTS IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMIC
GROWTH BECAUSE ONE BIG
DIFFERENCE IS THAT HILLARY
CLINTON LIKE BARACK OBAMA
BELIEVES IN INCOME
REDISTRIBUTION MORE THAN GROWTH.
DONALD TRUMP BELIEVES IN GROWTH
INSTEAD OF REDISTRIBUTION.
INCOMES HAVE NOT BEEN RISING
UNTIL RECENTLY.
MEDIAN INCOME OF HOUSEHOLDS IS
LOWER THAN AT THE START OF THE
GREAT RECESSION.
IF WE GET THE GROWTH HE IS
TALKING ABOUT THROUGH HIS
POLICIES, THIS WOULD HELP
EVERYBODY.
IT WOULD BE GOOD.
>> EDWARD STUART WHAT GROWTH IS
HE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT ARE
THE ODDS OF GETTING THAT?
>> ALMOST NONE BECAUSE THERE'S
GOOD EVIDENCE FROM RELATIVELY
MAINSTREAM ORGANIZATIONS LIKE
THE IMF THAT REDISTRIBUTION IS
PRO GROWTH BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH
A UNEASTERN DISTRIBUTION THAT
ECONOMIC GROWTH DEPENDS ON
CONSUMER DEMAND AND IT CANNOT
EXIST UNLESS THERE'S INCOME.
AND IF THE TRUMP TAX IDEA OF
CUTTING TAXES FOR THE RICH AND
CUTTING TAXES FOR THE
CORPORATIONS, AND THEN HAVING TO
CUT DOMESTIC SPENDING TO FINANCE
DEFENSE SPENDING OR
INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING, I DO
NOT THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE
GROWTH.
>> MICHAEL MILLER, WHO STANDS TO
GET HURT?
>> WHO WOULD GET HURT?
I THINK IF HE GOT THROUGH THE
POLICIES HE WANTS WHICH WOULD BE
TRADE PROTECTIONISM WE WOULD ALL
GET HURT IN THAT SENSE IN THAT
THE PRICES OF GOODS WOULD GO UP
AND WE WOULD HAVE A TRADE WAR
BETWEEN US AND OTHER COUNTRIES
WHICH IS NEVER GOOD FOR PRICES
IN GENERAL.
SO IF HE WOULD GET THAT THROUGH
WHAT I'M HOPING HE WILL MOVE
TOWARDS THE CENTER.
WHEN HE WORKS WITH THE CONGRESS,
THEY WILL CONVINCE HIM AND HE
WILL NEGOTIATE AS HE SAYS HE
DOES VERY WELL, TO COME UP WITH
SOME KIND OF TWEAKING OF THE
TRADE AGREEMENTS WITHOUT
DESTROYING THE TRADE AGREEMENTS.
AND HE WILL PLACATE THE POPULOUS
I TOLD YOU I WOULD LOOK AT THE
TRADE AGREEMENTS.
BUT HE IF HE GETS WHAT HE WANTS
HE WOULD SOMEHOW YANK NAFTA AND
GO AFTER TPP, THIS WOULD BE A
PROBLEM.
>> EDWARD STUART ANY IDEA WHO IS
ADVISING HIM ON MATTERS RELATING
TO THE ECONOMY?
>> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION AND
NOBODY THAT HAS ANY STATUS WITH
WITHIN THE ECONOMICS PROFESSION.
I KNOW WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
AGAINST ELITES.
BUT EVEN GEORGE BUSH AND RONALD
REAGAN HAD ECONOMIST WHO HAD
SOME IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON.
DONALD TRUMP DOES NOT KNOW
ANYBODY THAT HAS IDEAS THAT
KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON.
>> DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
THAT MIGHT BE ACADEMIC WHICH WE
OFTEN HAVE.
I KNOW HE WORKS WITH LARRY
KUDLOW WHO WAS A FED ECONOMIST
AND THEN A CORPORATE ECONOMIST.
AND NOW HE DOES CNBC.
AND THE GUY STEVEN MOORE AT THE
"WALL STREET JOURNAL" HERITAGE
THEY ARE ECONOMISTS THEY ARE
PHD'S THEY ARE NOT STUPID MEN.
>> LARRY KUDLOW LAST BEEN WRONG
ABOUT EVERYTHING FOR 25 YEARS
AND STEVEN MOORE IS NOT WELL
RESPECTED BY ANYBODY ON THE
LEFT, RIGHT OR CENTER.
>> YOU REFERENCED THIS BUT
DONALD TRUMP HAS PLEDGED TO
REBUILD INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH
WILL BECOME SECOND TO NONE IN
THE PRESIDENT-ELECT'S
TERMINOLOGY AND HE HAS A
THRILLIAN REBUILDING PLAN.
WHERE IS HE GOING TO GET THE
SPENDING?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE WILL
GET THE MONEY.
I DO.
I KNOW WHAT HIS PLAN IS.
HIS PLAN IS BY CHANGING THE
CORPORATE TAX LAWS, AND BY
BRINGING THE PERSONAL INCOME
DOWN TO 3 DIFFERENT AND LOWER
BRACKETS, THAT THIS WOULD CAUSE
ECONOMIC GROWTH TO GO FROM 2% TO
4%.
AND THAT WOULD GENERATE IN
ITSELF GENERATE MORE REVENUE
THAT HE COULD USE AND SPEND AND
DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE ACTIVITY.
>> THOSE PROJECTIONS 2-4% EDWARD
STUART YOU THOUGHT THOSE WERE
NOT REALISTIC?
>> I THINK THE PHRASE IS VOODOO
ECONOMICS IT'S BEEN TRIED WITH
REAGAN AND BUSH AND THERE'S NO
GROWTH FROM TAX CUTS.
ALSO THERE'S NO HISTORICAL
EVIDENCE AND NO METRIC EVIDENCE
THAT TAX CUTS ESPECIALLY FOR THE
WEALTHY PRODUCE ANYTHING EXCEPT
LARGER BUDGET DEFICITS AND
MONETARY POLICY THAT HAS TO BE
RESTRICTIVE AND RAISING INTEREST
RATES HIGH.
>> THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE
EVEN DONE BY THE ADVISER WHO
ADVISE Mr. OBAMA THAT TAX
INCREASES THAT MRS. CLINTON
WANTED ARE EXTREMELY
CONTRACTIONARY AND HAD HILLARY
CLINTON WON AND PUT IN THE $5
MILLION BREAK WHERE YOU HAVE TO
PAY THIS EXTRA INCOME TAX THAT
WOULD HAVE SLOWED ECONOMIC
GROWTH IT WOULD NOT HAVE
INCREASED IT.
>> AND SHE WAS PROMISING TO CUT
TAXES TO RAISE TAXES ON UPPER
INCOME INDIVIDUALS AND LOWER IT
ON LOWER INCOME INDIVIDUALS.
>> WHAT IS THE FED GOING TO DO
NOW WITH THE INTEREST RATES?
>> I WOULD SUSPECT THAT IN
DECEMBER BECAUSE OF ALL OF THIS
UNCERTAINTY THAT THEY WILL DO
NOTHING.
>> THAT IS AN INTERESTING
DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEY WERE
DEVELOPED TO DO SOMETHING IN THE
LAST TWO MEETINGS.
AND NOT RIGHT BEFORE THE
ELECTION BUT THE NUMBER COMING
OUT OF THE LAST FED MEETING WAS
70% CHANCE OF AN INCREASE IN
DECEMBER ASSUMING THE DATA COMES
IN THE WAY IT HAS BEEN COMING
IN.
I'M NOT SURE IF THE LABOR DATA
DOES NOT COME IF I'M WONDERING
IF THE FED WILL RAISE RATES AND
SIT ON IT.
>> AND JANET YELLEN WHAT IS HER
FUTURE?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
I DO NOT THINK IT'S GOOD WHICH
IS A REAL TRAGEDY.
>> SHE HAS A 12-YEAR TERM?
>> SHE IS A BRIGHT WOMAN AND HAS
GOTTEN A LOT OF TOTALLY
IRRATIONAL CRITICISM FROM THE
TRUMP CAMPAIGN.
ONE OF THE ISSUES ABOUT THE FED
IS THAT IT IS A CREATURE OF
CONGRESS AND CONGRESS CAN CHANGE
THE LAW.
AND THERE HAVE BEEN --
>> CAN CONGRESS CHANGE HER TERM?
>> YES, THEY CAN CHANGE
ANYTHING.
>> SHE HAS A 12-YEAR TERM IN
TERMS OF HER SEAT BUT A
FOUR-YEAR TERM AS CHAIRWOMAN AND
EVERY PRESIDENT GETS THE CHANCE
TO NOMINATE AND APPOINT A
CHAIRPERSON TO THE HEAD OF THE
BOARD OF GOVERNORS.
SO SHE WILL BE UP SOMETIME
DURING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
THIS IS ANOTHER PLACE WHERE IN
OTHER WORDS WHY GARY JOHNSON
EVEN THOUGH I AM PROUDLY A
REPUBLICAN.
>> YOU ARE WEARING THE TIE.
>> I BROUGHT MY ELEPHANTS.
AND HE THINKS THAT THE FED AND
YELLEN IN PARTICULAR IS
POLITICAL AND THAT IS JUST WRONG
NOT THE CASE.
>> YOU DO NOT THINK YELLEN IS A
POLITICAL PERSON IN THE SENSE --
>> I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR HER.
I BELIEVE SHE IS A GOOD
ECONOMIST NOT WORKING ON
POLITICS.
>> EDWARD STUART THE
PRESIDENT-ELECT TALKED ABOUT
SPENDING BILLIONS ON BUILDING A
WALL WITH MEXICO.
ONE OF THIS COUNTRY'S BIGGEST
TRADE PARTNERS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE PROSPECTS
FOR THAT ARE?
>> I HOPE NOT GOOD.
ONE OF THE THINGS I AGREE WITH
MIKE ON IS THAT PROTECTIONISM
AND CUTTING OFF TRADE IS NOT A
WIN-WIN SITUATION.
THERE WILL BE A FEW INDUSTRIES
THAT MAY BE HELPED BUT THERE
WILL BE LOTS OF INDUSTRIES THAT
ARE HURT.
AND A LOT OF INDUSTRIES IN
CHICAGO THAT DEPEND ON EXPORTS,
BOEING WOULD BE HURT.
ALL OF THE FINANCIAL SERVICES
AND ACCOUNTING SERVICES AND
BUSINESS SERVICES THAT WE HAVE.
>> THEY WOULD NOT BE HURT BY A
WALL?
>> WELL, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
NAFTA AND A WALL AND WHAT THAT
WOULD SYMBOLIZE.
SO, YEAH, IT'S NOT A HAPPY
PROSPECT.
>> MICHAEL MILLER, THE PROSPECTS
OF A WALL BEING BUILT?
>> OR CAMPAIGN RHETORIC?
>> IF HE DOES NOT COME UP WITH
SOMETHING LIKE THAT HE IS GOING
TO TAKE A MAJOR HIT IN TERMS OF
POPULARITY BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT
THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WANTING.
I AM NOT A FAN OF IT.
I ABSOLUTELY AGREE THAT WE HAVE
THE RIGHT TO PROTECT OUR BORDERS
AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT
PHYSICAL WALLS CAN WORK.
ASK ISRAEL AND SEE IF ISRAELIS
ARE SHOT BY PALESTINIANS ANYMORE
AND THE ANSWER IS NO.
>> AND ASK THE EAST GERMANS.
>> BUT THEY DID WORK TO KEEP THE
PEOPLE IN.
BUT I JUST THAT IS NOT WHERE THE
IMMIGRATION ISSUE IS CENTERED.
IT'S MORE THAT PEOPLE COME IN ON
A VISA AND OVER STAY NOT PEOPLE
COMING OVER THE BORDER FROM
MEXICO.
>> WE APPRECIATE IT.
ALWAYS LOVE HAVING THE TWO OF
YOU ON.
UP NEXT A MOVE MADE BY COOK
COUNTY VOTERS SO STAY WITH US.
>> COOK COUNTY VOTERS DID
SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY
YESTERDAY THEY VOTED TO
ELIMINATE THE OFFICE OF THE COOK
COUNTY RECORDER OF DEEDS AND
CONSOLIDATE IT INTO THE COUNTY
CLERK'S OFFICE.
IT WAS ONE OF TWO BINDING
REFERENDA ON THE BALLOT AND BOTH
GOT THE VOTERS' THUMBS UP.
>> THE REFERENDA TO MERGE THE
RECORDER OF DEEDS OFFICE INTO
THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE WAS
RECEIVED AN OVERWHELMING SUPPORT
FROM COUNTY VOTERS WITH MORE
THAN 63% OF THEM SAYING YES.
THE MEASURE WAS PROPOSED BY
COUNTY COMMISSIONER JOHN
FRITCHEY WHO SAID CONSOLIDATING
THE OFFICES COULD SAVE 800,000
TO 2 MILLION A YEAR.
10 COUNTY COMMISSIONER VOTED TO
PUT THE CONSOLIDATION MEASURE ON
THE BALLOT.
AND ALL FIVE OF THE COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN OPPOSED THE
MEASURE.
QUESTIONING WHETHER IT WOULD
BRING ABOUT SAVINGS AND ONE
COMMISSIONER SAID THAT IT WAS AN
ALL OUT ATTACK ON BLACK ELECTED
OFFICIALS.
THE LAST FOUR RECORDERS OF DEEDS
HAVE BEEN AFRICAN-AMERICAN.
AND THE OFFICE EMPLOYS MANY
AFRICAN-AMERICANS.
BUT NOW, THE MAIN FUNCTIONS OF
THE RECORDERS OFFICE IS TO KEEP
PROPERTY RECORDS, TRACK LIENS
AND COLLECT TRANSFER TAXES.
BUT THE HEAD SAYS HER OFFICE
DOES MORE INCLUDING OUTREACH TO
RESIDENTS TO SAVE THEM MONEY.
THE MERGER TAKES PLACE IN THE
NEXT FOUR YEARS AND KAREN
YARBROUGH IS IN THE DARK ABOUT
THE LOGISTICS OF MERGING AND
QUESTIONS WHERE THE COST SAVINGS
WILL HAPPEN.
>> THE CLERK SAID SOMETHING
ABOUT CHANGE THE NAME ON THE
DOOR.
WELL, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.
YOU WILL HAVE TO DO MUCH MORE
THAN THAT.
SO I REALLY DON'T HAVE A REAL
FEEL FOR HOW THIS IS GOING TO
HAPPEN.
I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT IS GOING TO
SAVE AND NEITHER DOES THE COUNTY
BOARD FOR THE MOST PART PEOPLE
DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DO IN
THIS OFFICE ANYWAY.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO DID, I WOULD
THINK THAT THE 600,000 PEOPLE
WHO VOTED NOT TO CONSOLIDATE THE
OFFICE MAYBE THEY UNDERSTOOD
WHAT WE DO HERE MAYBE A USE THE
OFFICE.
>> COUNTY CLERK DAVID ORR WHOSE
OFFICE WILL BE TAKING OVER THE
FUNCTIONS HAS BEEN AN ADVOCATE
OF THIS MERGER.
HOW COME?
>> WELL, THAT IS BECAUSE HE SAYS
HE HAS SUGGESTED THAT PERHAPS
KAREN YARBROUGH HAS NOT
IMPLEMENTED SOME TECHNOLOGIES
AND EFFICIENCIES THAT COULD BE
COST SAVINGS FOR THAT OFFICE.
AND HE SAYS THE CONSOLIDATION IS
A SMART MOVE AND THE COST
SAVINGS WILL COME FROM
ELIMINATING 16 ADMINISTRATIVE
POSITIONS INCLUDING HUMAN
RESOURCES AND PR.
>> FOR BIG CITIES AND BIG
COUNTIES TO SURVIVE WE HAVE GOT
TO BE EFFICIENT.
AND SO BY COMBINING OFFICES
WHICH WILL SAVE US A LOT OF
MONEY AND WITH NO INEFFICIENCIES
FOR THE VOTERS IT ALL MAKES
SENSE.
YOU COULD SAVE $2 MILLION A
YEAR.
AND BUILD FROM THERE.
AND THERE ARE NOT ANY
SIGNIFICANT COSTS WHATSOEVER FOR
COMBINING THE OFFICES.
KEEP IN MIND, THE KEY IS THE
RECORDING FUNCTION IS IMPORTANT.
AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
DOING THE RECORDING FUNCTION
WILL STAY THERE.
WE SHOULD BE DOING CROSS-TRAIN.
AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT
THAT THEIR PEOPLE CAN DO THE
CLERK'S WORK AND OUR PEOPLE CAN
DO THE RECORDER'S WORK AND YOU
SAVE MONEY NOT BY LAYOFFS BUT BY
WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE YOU HAVE
PEOPLE THAT CAN DO THE WORK.
>> COOK COUNTY CLERK DAVID ORR
HELD HIS POST FOR 25 YEARS AND
IS NOW 72 YEARS OLD.
THERE HAS BEEN BUZZ THAT DAVID
ORR MAY NOT RUN IN 2018 WHICH
OPENS THE DOOR FOR THE CURRENT
RECORDER OF DEEDS AND SHE DOES
SAY SHE IS INTERESTED.
>> AND THERE WERE OTHER
NONBINDING REFERENDA ON THE
CHICAGO BALLOT BUT THERE IS A
MEASURE BINDING AND THAT PASSED
EASILY.
>> IT HAD OVERWHELMING SUPPORT.
THE SO-CALLED SAFE ROADS
AMENDMENT AND IT PASSED WITH
NEARLY 80% OF THE VOTE.
IT NEEDED 60% OF THE VOTE IN
ORDER TO BE ADDED TO THE STATE
CONSTITUTION.
AND WHAT IT DOES IS FORCE TAXING
BODIES TO USE TRANSPORTATION
RELATED FEES SUCH AS LICENSE
PLATE REGISTRATION PAYMENTS AND
MOTOR FUEL TAXES ONLY ON ROADS
AND BRIDGE PROJECTS AND THE CTA.
PUTTING THE MONEY COLLECTED INTO
WHAT IS CALLED THE LOCK BOX ONLY
USED FOR THOSE TRANSPORTATION
PURPOSES.
IT NOT ONLY WAS A RARE
BIPARTISAN PROPOSAL FROM
GOVERNOR RAUNER AND MIKE MADIGAN
BUT IT GOT A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM
TRADE UNIONS AND MAJOR BUSINESS
GROUPS AND THE ILLINOIS CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE.
AND WE GOT REACTION FROM LOCAL
PUBLIC OBSERVERS.
CYNTHIA THE SENIOR ADVISOR
SAYS...
>> THANK YOU.
>> AFTER TENS OF MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS AND A MASSIVE WAVE OF
POLITICAL ADVERTISING,
REPUBLICANS NETTED A HANDFUL OF
SEATS IN THE ILLINOIS
LEGISLATURE IN THE ELECTION.
THEY PICKED UP ENOUGH TO BREAK
HOUSE SPEAKER MIKE MADIGAN'S
SUPER MAJORITY BUT THE VETO
OVERRIDE POWER PROVED TOUGH FOR
MADIGAN TO WRANGLE.
THE STATE HOUSE AND THE SENATE
REMAIN IN DEMOCRATIC CONTROL.
JOINING US FROM SPRINGFIELD WITH
MORE ON WHETHER THE POWER WILL
SHIFT MUCH AND WHETHER A
PERMANENT STATE BUDGET IS MORE
LIKELY IS "CHICAGO TONIGHT"'S
AMANDA VINICKY.
HOW MANY SEATS WERE IN PLAY AND
HOW MANY WENT TO THE
REPUBLICANS?
>> YOU HAD A COUPLE DOZEN SEATS
REALLY IN PLAY.
OUT OF 177, TOTAL GENERAL
ASSEMBLY SEATS YOU DID NOT HAVE
ALL OF THE ILLINOIS SENATE UP
ALL AT ONCE.
THE HOUSE WAS UP.
AND YOU HAVE A LOST THOSE RACES
UNCONTESTED.
A COUPLE DOZEN WERE COMPETITIVE.
AND THE TRULY COMPETITIVE ONES
WHAT YOU SAW WAS JUST IN THE
SINGLE DIGITS A TOTAL OF SEVEN.
WE HAD AS OF A COUPLE HOURS AGO
AT LEAST ONE RACE THAT HAS NOT
BEEN CALLED BY "THE ASSOCIATED
PRESS".
AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE IS TWO MORE
REPUBLICANS IN THE ILLINOIS
SENATE THAT IS ENOUGH THAT THE
SENATE KEEPS THE SUPER MAJORITY
BUT IN THE HOUSE IF YOU NOTED
THAT IS GONE.
YOU HAD ONE INCUMBENT REPUBLICAN
LOSE HIS SEAT THAT IS DWIGHT KAY
FROM NEAR ST. LOUIS GLEN CARBON.
AND THEN YOU HAD FIVE DEMOCRATS
LOSE.
FOR A NUT NET OF FOUR IN THE
ILLINOIS HOUSE THAT IS ENOUGH TO
WIPE AWAY THE SUPER MAJORITY.
>> AND JUST POLITICS WHAT DOES
THAT MEAN?
THE FACT THAT THE DEMOCRATS DO
NOT HAVE THE SUPER MAJORITY?
>> WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT
PREVIOUSLY WITH THAT SUPER
MAJORITY YOU COULD HAVE
DEMOCRATS AND DEMOCRATS ALONE
OVERRIDE A GUBERNATORIAL VETO
NOT ANYMORE.
YOU NEED THREE SETS OF EACH
CHAMBER AND IN ORDER TO OVERRIDE
ANY BILL REJECTED BY BRUCE
RAUNER NOW IF THE GOVERNOR SAYS
NO TO LEGISLATION.
THEN AND THE DEMOCRATS STILL
WANT TO IMPOSE IT THEY WILL NEED
REPUBLICANS TO SIDE WITH THEM.
WE HAVE NOT SEEN A LOT OF THAT
ON CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES ANYWAY.
REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN STICKING
WITH THEIR GOVERNOR.
>> AMANDA WHAT DOES IT MEAN IN
TERMS OF THE GOVERNOR'S ABILITY
TO GET MORE OF HIS AGENDA
PASSED?
ANYTHING?
>> MAYBE, MAYBE NOT.
IF YOU READ THE REACTIONS THE
STATEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE FROM
THE LEADERS, HOUSE SPEAKER
MADIGAN TOOK HIS AS VINDICATION
AND SAYS WE STILL HAVE
DEMOCRATIC MAJORITIES IN THE
GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
SO HE IS GOING TO TAKE THAT AS
VOTERS STILL WANTING TO REJECT
RAUNER'S AGENDA AN AGENDA THAT
MADIGAN CLASSIFIED AS
ANTI-MIDDLE CLASS.
HOWEVER, THE HOUSE MINORITY
LEADER DURKIN SAYS HE READS IT
THE OTHER WAY AND SAYS THIS THE
NUMBERS THAT WERE EATEN INTO IN
TERMS OF THE DEMOCRATIC RANKS
SHOW THAT QUOTE ILLINOIS VOTERS
SENT A STRONG MESSAGE IT'S TIME
FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO JOIN
GOVERNOR RAUNER.
THAT IS SHARED BY THE G.O.P.
LEADER IN THE SENATE AND SHE
SAYS NOW IT'S ON INCUMBENTS TO
COMPROMISE.
>> AMANDA, IT'S SAID THAT THIS
NEW NUMBER CREATES BUDGET
CULPABILITY FOR GOVERNOR RAUNER.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
>> IT GETS BACK TO THE SUPER
MAJORITY FIGURE.
AGAIN, THAT YOU'VE HAD GOVERNOR
RAUNER SAYING FOR A LONGTIME,
HEY, THE DEMOCRATS HAVE A SUPER
MAJORITY.
IF THEY WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO
SOMETHING IF THEY WANT A TAX
INCREASE AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM
WITH THE BUDGET GO AHEAD.
DO IT.
THEY DON'T NEED ME.
NOT ANYMORE.
SO THAT IS WHERE IN A SENSE THE
GOVERNOR HAS BOUGHT HIMSELF MORE
CULPABILITY IN THE BUDGET
BATTLE.
>> AND WHAT --
HOW DOES THIS IMPACT THE
PROSPECT OF A PERMANENT BUDGET
THIS NEW BREAKDOWN IN
SPRINGFIELD?
>> WELL, IF YOU TALK TO AND ARES
IT SHOWS THAT VOTERS WANT
CHANGE.
YOU LOOK AT IT AND AT THE
PRESIDENTIAL LEVELS ON DOWN BUT
GIVEN THAT YOU DID HAVE
DEMOCRATS WINNING OTHER RACES
LOOKING AT THE U.S. SENATE WITH
TAMMY DUCKWORTH AND THE
COMPTROLLER, IT GOES TO
LEGISLATIVE RACES AND
PARTICULARLY SOME OF THE REALLY
COMPETITIVE ONES WHERE YOU SAW
SOME OF THE MADIGAN'S TOP
LIEUTENANTS LOSE THEY SAY THAT
SHOWS VOTERS ARE NOT HAPPY WITH
WHAT IS HAPPENING IN
SPRINGFIELD.
WE'LL SEE IS THIS GOING TO
CHANGE THINGS?
OUR BACK IN THE VETO SESSION
JUST NEXT WEEK A WEEK FROM
TODAY.
AND THUS FAR THE LEGISLATIVE
LEADERS SAY THEY HAVE NOT BEEN
TALKING THEY HAVE BEEN BUSY
CAMPAIGNING MAYBE THEY WILL HAVE
A MEETING AND GET TOGETHER AND
BEGIN TO DISCUSS THINGS.
REMEMBER THE TEMPORARY SPENDING
PLAN THAT ILLINOIS HAS IN PLACE
RUNS OUT AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
>> AMANDA VINICKY THANK YOU AND
WE APPRECIATE IT AS ALWAYS.
AFTER THE BREAK TWO NEWLY
ELECTED MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.
SO STAY WITH US.
>> DONALD TRUMP'S WIN HAS LEFT
DEMOCRATS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
HOW TO NEGOTIATE AN UNEXPECTED
POLITICAL LANDSCAPE.
WHAT IS THE FUTURE FOR DEMOCRATS
IN CONGRESS UNDER A TRUMP
PRESIDENCY?
HERE WITH THEIR INSIGHTS ARE TWO
DEMOCRATS VICTORIOUS LAST NIGHT
AND GOING TO CONGRESS UNDER
CIRCUMSTANCES THEY MAY NOT HAVE
BEEN ANTICIPATING.
JOINING US ARE BRAD SCHNEIDER,
CONGRESSMAN ELECT AND SERVED IN
CONGRESS FROM 2013-2015 AND RAJA
KRISHNAMOORTHI CONGRESSMAN ELECT
IN THE 8TH DISTRICT.
WELCOME BACK TO "CHICAGO
TONIGHT" AND CONGRATULATIONS ON
YOUR RESPECTIVE WINS.
>> THANK YOU.
>> RAJA KRISHNAMOORTHI WHAT WAS
YOUR REACTION TO DONALD TRUMP'S
VICTORY?
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT --
IT WAS OBVIOUSLY UNEXPECTED FOR
A LOT OF US.
THAT BEING SAID, HE IS THE
PRESIDENT-ELECT.
WE HAD AN ELECTION.
AND IN THIS COUNTRY WE BELIEVE
IN A PEACEFUL TRANSITION OF
POWER.
AND YOU KNOW AS ANY CITIZEN
WOULD, I WISH HIM WELL.
THAT BEING SAID BASED ON WHAT HE
CAMPAIGNED ON, WE HAD A LOT OF
DIFFERENCES.
I HOPE THAT HE MODERATES HIS
POSITIONS.
AND WHERE WE CAN AGREE AND WHERE
WE CAN HAVE COMMON GROUND I HOPE
TO BE A POSITIVE FORCE TO WORK
WITH HIM TO GET THINGS DONE FOR
WORKING FAMILIES.
THE PURPOSE OF OUR CAMPAIGN WAS
TO HELP GROW AND STRENGTHEN THE
MIDDLE CLASS.
>> BRAD SCHNEIDER WHY DO YOU
THINK HE HAD TEENER APPEAL?
>> IT'S HARD TO SAY I LOOK AT MY
DISTRICT.
HE DID NOT DO WELL.
BUT I THINK AS YOU LOOK AROUND
THE NATION PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING
THE ECONOMY IS NOT RISING TIDE
IS NOT LIFTING ALL SHIPS.
AND HE TAPPED INTO THAT.
AND MY DISTRICT PEOPLE WORRY
ABOUT JOBS AND WORRY ABOUT THE
ABILITY TO SEND THEIR KIDS TO
COLLEGE AND AFFORD HEALTHCARE
AND THEY ARE SEEING AN ECONOMY
THAT IS WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE
AT THE TOP THAN THOSE IN THE
MIDDLE AND BUILDING THE MIDDLE
CLASS.
>> RAJA KRISHNAMOORTHI HOW IS A
TRUMP PRESIDENCY GOING TO AFFECT
HOW YOU APPROACH YOUR JOB IN
CONGRESS?
>> TWO THINGS: ONE WE HAVE TO
AVOID DIVISIVE RHETORIC.
IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT AT THIS
TIME COMING OUT OF THE ELECTION
THAT WAS DISHEARTENING BECAUSE
OF THE TONE OF THE RHETORIC, WE
WANT TO AVOID RHETORIC THAT
WOULD BACK US INTO CORNERS.
AND SECONDLY WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY
PLACES WHERE WE CAN AGREE WHERE
WE CAN HAVE COMMON GROUND
PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP TALKED
ABOUT MAKING TRANSPORTATION A
BIG FOCUS OF HIS PRESIDENCY.
MODERNIZING AND UPGRADING OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I
CAMPAIGNED ON AND WE TALKED
ABOUT PUTTING FORWARD A NATIONAL
INFRASTRUCTURE BANK SO THAT
LOCAL TOWNSHIPS AND
MUNICIPALITIES CAN COMPLETE
PROJECTS AND LIKE THE ELGIN
O'HARE EXPRESSWAY WHICH NEITHER
REACHES ELGIN OR O'HARE OR THE
METRO STAR LINE.
IF HE WANTS TO WORK ON THOSE
INITIATIVES, HE CAN FIND A
PARTNER IN FOLKS LIKE MYSELF WHO
BELIEVE IN MODERNIZING
INFRASTRUCTURE.
>> BRAD SCHNEIDER QUICKLY WHAT
IS THE PIN YOU ARE WEARING?
>> THE BLUE STAR PIN PARENTS FOR
CHILDREN WHO ARE IN THE SERVICE.
MY SON IS IN THE NAVY AND TIM
KAINE'S SON WAS IN THE MARINES
AND HE WAS CRITICIZED THEY
CALLED IT A HONDURAN FLAG.
>> AND BACK TO THE POINT THAT
RAJA KRISHNAMOORTHI WAS MAKING
AND THAT IS LOOKING FOR
OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH THE
PRESIDENT AND YET ON A LOT OF
ISSUES THE PRESIDENT-ELECT SAYS
HE IS NOT INTERESTED IN SOME OF
THE THINGS THAT THE DEMOCRATS
HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR
EXAMPLE, THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT
HE CAMPAIGNED ON A PROMISE TO
REPEAL IT.
HOW WILL THE DEMOCRATS SUCH AS
YOURSELF HANDLE THAT?
>> I KNOW FROM TALKING AGAIN TO
PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT THAT
HEALTHCARE IS CRITICAL THE
ABILITY TO PROVIDE CHILDREN
HEALTHCARE AND THE FACT THROUGH
THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT WE ARE
ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE WITH
PREEXISTING CONDITIONS GET
HEALTHCARE.
20 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE
HEALTHCARE THAT DIDN'T.
>> WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HE SAYS OK
I WILL REPEAL THE AFFORDABLE
CARE ACT AND NOW I HAVE THE
REPUBLICAN MAJORITY IN BOTH
HOUSES OF CONGRESS TO DO THAT.
WHAT DO YOU DO?
>> WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO
WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
PROTECT THOSE GAINS THAT WE'VE
MADE AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE
GOING TO TRY TO PUSHBACK ON IT.
BUT THEY HAVE YET TO BRING A
ALTERNATIVE.
WE MADE THAT SUCCESS SO I THINK
TALKING PERSON TO PERSON AND
FINDING PEOPLE WHO WILL FIND
THAT COMMON GROUND I BELIEVE WE
CAN WORK TO PROTECT THE LEGACY
OF HEALTHCARE AND CONTINUE TO
MOVE FORWARD.
IT WILL BE HARD BUT WE HAVE TO
CONTINUE TO FIND A WAY TO GO
FORWARD.
>> RAJA KRISHNAMOORTHI,
IMMIGRATION DO YOU EXPECT
PRESIDENT TRUMP TO ATTEMPT TO
BUILD THE WALL THAT HE TALKED
ABOUT?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW HE SAID A LOT
IN THE CAMPAIGN ABOUT IMMIGRANTS
AND SCAPEGOATING VARIOUS GROUPS.
MY DISTRICT 30% OF THE RESIDENTS
ARE IMMIGRANTS.
AND SO IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
THAT I AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF
THEM IN THE UNITED STATES
CONGRESS ENSURE THAT YOU KNOW WE
DON'T GO THE WAY OF SCAPEGOATING
THEM.
IF HE WANTS TO GO THE WAY OF
COMPREHENSIVE NEW IMMIGRATION
REFORM I AM GOING TO BE A
WILLING PARTNER BUILDING WALLS
AND SUCH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T
THINK I WILL BE A GREAT ADVOCATE
FOR THAT.
>> BRAD SCHNEIDER DO YOU THINK
HE IS GOING TO TRY AND BUILD THE
WALL?
>> IN MY VIEW, THE AMERICAN
DREAM IS BIG ENOUGH FOR ALL OF
US.
WE ARE A COUNTRY OF IMMIGRANTS
WHERE IMMIGRANTS HAVE CREATED
COMPANIES, HELPED CREATE JOBS.
>> AGAIN DO YOU THINK HE IS
GOING TO BUILD THE WALL?
>> WE HAVE TO WORK AGAINST ANY
EFFORTS TO DO THAT.
I HOPE WE CAN PUSHBACK AGAINST
THAT EFFORT.
>> OK.
YOU BOTH ARE EXPERIENCED CLEARLY
AND ADEPT IN THE POLITICAL
PROCESS.
WILL THERE BE RECRIMINATIONS
WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT?
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW
WE DON'T HAVE TIME.
WORKING CLASS FAMILIES AND THE
MIDDLE CLASS THEY ARE
STRUGGLING.
THE MAIN REASON I THINK THAT
DONALD TRUMP GOT ELECTED IS
BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT
WASHINGTON IS NOT LISTENING TO
THEM.
AND IN MY HUMBLE OPINION THEY
ARE RIGHT.
BUT RATHER THAN APPEAL TO THE
WORST INSTINCTS WHICH I BELIEVE
THAT DONALD TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN DID
WE SHOULD APPEAL TO THE BEST
INSTINCTS APPEAL TO THEIR SENSE
OF UNITY AND TEAMWORK AND
COLLECTIVELY DEALING WITH OUR
CHALLENGES.
BECAUSE THEY AFFECT ALL PEOPLE
NOT JUST ONE ETHNIC GROUP OR
ANOTHER BUT ALL AMERICANS.
>> AND BRAD HOW ABOUT IT
RECRIMINATIONS WITHIN THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY?
>> I HOPE WE SEE THE PARTY
COMING TOGETHER.
THE ONLY WAY WE CAN PUSHBACK
AGAINST THE EFFORTS AGAINST
PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP AND THE
REPUBLICANS IS STANDING TOGETHER
AND CONTINUING TO WORK FOR WHAT
ARE THE VALUES OF OUR
COMMUNITIES AND THE PRIORITIES
OF MAKING SURE WE ARE LIFTING
PEOPLE UP AND BRINGING THEM
TOGETHER RATHER THAN TRYING TO
PULL PEOPLE APART.
>> WHAT IS YOUR GREATEST FEAR
ABOUT A TRUMP PRESIDENCY?
>> THE GREATEST FEAR IS THAT
WE'RE GOING TO DIVIDE AS A
COUNTRY.
THE FAULT LINES THAT HAVE
STARTED APPEARING DURING THE
CAMPAIGN ALONG ETHNIC LINES,
RELIGIOUS LINES GENDER LINES
WILL GROW.
WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT.
THERE ARE TOO MANY CHALLENGES
THAT THIS COUNTRY FACES THAT
REQUIRE COLLECTIVE ACTION
TEAMWORK AND UNITY.
AND IF WE APPEAL TO THE BEST
INSTINCTS IN AMERICANS, BASED ON
THOSE VALUES THEN WE HAVE A GOOD
CHANCE OF OVERCOMING THE HURDLES
THAT WE SEE ON THE HORIZON BUT
IF WE DON'T THEN WE WILL BE IN
RECRIMINATIONS AND MISSING OUT
ON OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW OUR
ECONOMY AND HELP ALL AMERICANS
BECOME PROSPEROUS.
>> BRAD SCHNEIDER LAST NIGHT
DONALD TRUMP SAID HE WAS GOING
TO BE A PRESIDENT FOR ALL
AMERICANS AND PROMISED TO BE
FAIR HANDED.
DO YOU TAKE HIM AT HIS WORD?
>> WE'LL SEE HE HOPE HE WILL.
THAT IS WHAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS
WE NEED TO HEAL THE WOUNDS.
BUT THE PRESIDENCY IS BIGGER
THAN ONE PERSON.
THE GOVERNMENT IS BIGGER THAN
JUST THE PRESIDENCY.
GOVERNMENT HAS TO COME TOGETHER.
WE NEED A GOVERNMENT THAT IS
WORKING FOR ALL AMERICANS THAT
IS HELPING ALL FAMILIES AND ALL
OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND I THINK IF WE BUILD STRONGER
COMMUNITIES WE WILL HAVE A
STRONGER NATION.
I HOPE THAT PRESIDENT-ELECT
TRUMP MEANT WHAT HE SAID.
OUR JOB IN CONGRESS IS STANDING
STRONG AND FIGHTING FOR WHAT WE
KNOW TO BE THE BEST PATH
FORWARD.
>> BRAD SCHNEIDER, RAJA
KRISHNAMOORTHI THANK YOU BOTH
FOR BEING HERE.
APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AND BACK TO WRAP THINGS UP
RIGHT AFTER THIS.
BEAUTIFUL SHOT OF THE CITY.
AND THAT IS OUR SHOW FOR THIS
WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
I HOPE YOU JOIN US TOMORROW
NIGHT LIVE AT 7:00 P.M.
FOR ALL OF US HERE AT "CHICAGO
TONIGHT" I'M PHIL PONCE AND I
THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.
GOOD NIGHT.
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