1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:11,033 >> THE DOW FINISHED UP 99 POINTS 2 00:00:07,233 --> 00:00:13,566 TODAY THAT WOULD BE UNREMARKABLE 3 00:00:09,100 --> 00:00:13,833 BUT FOR THE FACT IT WAS DOWN 4 00:00:11,033 --> 00:00:16,400 MORE THAN 1100 EARLIER IN THE 5 00:00:13,566 --> 00:00:17,766 DAY. 6 00:00:13,833 --> 00:00:20,800 THIS HAS THE MARKETS TUMBLED 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:22,366 BADLY TO START THE YEAR. 8 00:00:17,766 --> 00:00:23,566 CHIEF AMONG INVESTOR FEARS 9 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,566 APPEAR THAT THE FEDERAL RESERVE 10 00:00:22,366 --> 00:00:28,733 WILL RAISE INTEREST RATES TO 11 00:00:23,566 --> 00:00:30,233 TAMP DOWN INFLATION. 12 00:00:25,566 --> 00:00:34,000 AND THE WAR BETWEEN RUSSIA AND 13 00:00:28,733 --> 00:00:36,800 UKRAINE HAS ADDED TO THE 14 00:00:30,233 --> 00:00:39,166 NEGATIVE SENT: JOINING US ARE 15 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:43,133 LEE BAKER. 16 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:43,533 AND MICHAEL STRITCH CHIEF 17 00:00:39,166 --> 00:00:44,700 INVESTMENT OFFICER AT BMO WEALTH 18 00:00:43,133 --> 00:00:45,433 MANAGEMENT. 19 00:00:43,533 --> 00:00:48,333 WELCOME BOTH OF YOU TO "CHICAGO 20 00:00:44,700 --> 00:00:50,133 TONIGHT." 21 00:00:45,433 --> 00:00:50,466 >> LEE BAKER WHAT ACCOUNTS FOR 22 00:00:48,333 --> 00:00:51,133 THE WILD GYRATIONS IN THE 23 00:00:50,133 --> 00:00:52,600 MARKET? 24 00:00:50,466 --> 00:00:54,566 >> YOU NAILED IT. 25 00:00:51,133 --> 00:00:55,933 THE THING THAT STARTED IS THE 26 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,066 CONCERN ABOUT WHAT THE FED IS 27 00:00:54,566 --> 00:00:57,933 GOING TO DO RELEVANT TO INTEREST 28 00:00:55,933 --> 00:01:01,166 RATE HIKES OVER THE COURSE OF 29 00:00:57,066 --> 00:01:01,866 THE YEAR. 30 00:00:57,933 --> 00:01:03,633 I THINK SOME IS A BIT OF AN 31 00:01:01,166 --> 00:01:06,600 OVERREACTION. 32 00:01:01,866 --> 00:01:08,500 YES, INFLATION IS A PROBLEM. 33 00:01:03,633 --> 00:01:11,000 IT IS TURNED OUT TO BE LESS 34 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:13,800 TRANSITORY THAN THE FED THOUGHT 35 00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:15,533 GOING BACK TO LAST SUMMER. 36 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:17,033 BY THIS TIME THE ANTICIPATION 37 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:21,033 WAS THAT THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES 38 00:01:15,533 --> 00:01:21,800 WOULD HAVE EASED UP AND WE WOULD 39 00:01:17,033 --> 00:01:24,400 BE MOVING AWAY FROM THAT 5-6% 40 00:01:21,033 --> 00:01:27,633 YEAR-OVER-YEAR INFLATION NUMBER 41 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:29,733 BUT IT'S HERE AND LIKELY TO BE 42 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:31,666 HERE ANOTHER THREE MONTHS OR SO. 43 00:01:27,633 --> 00:01:32,800 >> A RELATIVELY BAD POOR START 44 00:01:29,733 --> 00:01:35,333 TO THE YEAR FOR THE DOW AND 45 00:01:31,666 --> 00:01:40,466 OTHER MARKETS. 46 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:41,633 THE DOW IS DOWN 6%. 47 00:01:35,333 --> 00:01:43,433 THE S&P 5% AND NASDAQ 12.5%. 48 00:01:40,466 --> 00:01:46,600 MICHAEL STRITCH WHAT ACCOUNTS 49 00:01:41,633 --> 00:01:48,233 FOR THIS PERFORMANCE FOR THE 50 00:01:43,433 --> 00:01:49,833 FIRST THREE WEEKS OF THE YEAR? 51 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:52,100 >> WELL, I THINK WE HAD A 52 00:01:48,233 --> 00:01:54,600 TREMENDOUS YEAR LAST YEAR AND A 53 00:01:49,833 --> 00:01:57,466 TREMENDOUS YEAR THE YEAR BEFORE. 54 00:01:52,100 --> 00:01:59,333 AND THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM FOR A 55 00:01:54,600 --> 00:02:01,200 CORRECTION IN THE FACE OF A 56 00:01:57,466 --> 00:02:02,933 LONGER TERM UPTREND AND I THINK 57 00:01:59,333 --> 00:02:04,700 THAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING DRIVEN BY 58 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,600 A COUPLE FACTORS. 59 00:02:02,933 --> 00:02:07,433 LEE MENTIONED THE INFLATION AND 60 00:02:04,700 --> 00:02:09,866 INTEREST RATE STORY. 61 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:11,733 WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF EARNINGS 62 00:02:07,433 --> 00:02:13,366 SEASON AND RESULTS HAVE BEEN OK 63 00:02:09,866 --> 00:02:15,066 BUT PERHAPS NOT LIVING UP TO THE 64 00:02:11,733 --> 00:02:17,800 HEIGHTENED EXPECTATIONS RELATIVE 65 00:02:13,366 --> 00:02:18,100 TO PAST QUARTERS. 66 00:02:15,066 --> 00:02:21,300 THAT IS WEIGHING ON INVESTORS AS 67 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,966 WELL. 68 00:02:18,100 --> 00:02:23,800 AND WE DO HAVE GEOPOLITICAL 69 00:02:21,300 --> 00:02:26,000 TENSIONS UNFOLDING IN EASTERN 70 00:02:22,966 --> 00:02:29,333 EUROPE. 71 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:30,400 I REITERATE THIS IS ALTHOUGH IT 72 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:32,800 SEEMS EXTREME AND TODAY WAS 73 00:02:29,333 --> 00:02:33,200 EXTREME, IT IS IN THE CONTEXT OF 74 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,066 THE BROADER UPTREND WE HAVE BEEN 75 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,900 IN. 76 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:38,133 SOMETHING THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED 77 00:02:35,066 --> 00:02:40,633 QUITE NORMAL. 78 00:02:35,900 --> 00:02:42,433 >> LEE BAKER IS THIS A NORMAL 79 00:02:38,133 --> 00:02:45,000 CORRECTION TO THE HOT MARKET OF 80 00:02:40,633 --> 00:02:47,533 THE LAST YEAR OR SO? 81 00:02:42,433 --> 00:02:49,300 OR DOES IT PORTEND SOMETHING 82 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,700 MORE OMINOUS LIKE A BEAR MARKET? 83 00:02:47,533 --> 00:02:52,000 >> I BELIEVE THIS IS A NORMAL 84 00:02:49,300 --> 00:02:53,866 CORRECTION. 85 00:02:49,700 --> 00:02:55,500 I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES WE'VE 86 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:57,366 GOT OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST 87 00:02:53,866 --> 00:02:59,200 FEW YEARS WE HAVE BEEN LULLED 88 00:02:55,500 --> 00:03:01,466 INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY 89 00:02:57,366 --> 00:03:02,866 BECAUSE CORRECTIONS THAT ARE 90 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:04,800 NORMAL IN MOST YEARS, JUST 91 00:03:01,466 --> 00:03:07,100 HADN'T HAPPENED. 92 00:03:02,866 --> 00:03:08,700 WE'D HAVE MINNIE CORRECTIONS IF 93 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:10,266 YOU WILL WHERE THE MARKETS WOULD 94 00:03:07,100 --> 00:03:12,466 PULLBACK FOUR OR FIVE POINTS AND 95 00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:14,500 THAT WOULD LAST FOR I AWEEK. 96 00:03:10,266 --> 00:03:14,933 HAVING A PULLBACK OF 10% IS 97 00:03:12,466 --> 00:03:16,566 QUITE NORMAL UNDER MOST 98 00:03:14,500 --> 00:03:18,433 CIRCUMSTANCES. 99 00:03:14,933 --> 00:03:18,766 IT'S JUST THAT THAT HADN'T BEEN 100 00:03:16,566 --> 00:03:20,233 THE CASE FOR THE LAST COUPLE 101 00:03:18,433 --> 00:03:22,533 YEARS. 102 00:03:18,766 --> 00:03:24,200 >> AND INVESTOR FEARS OVER THE 103 00:03:20,233 --> 00:03:25,600 FED RAISING INTEREST RATES. 104 00:03:22,533 --> 00:03:26,766 THE FED CHAIRMAN HINTED THOSE 105 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:30,633 MIGHT BE COMING. 106 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:32,866 MICHAEL STRITCH WHY DOES THIS 107 00:03:26,766 --> 00:03:35,633 MAKE INVESTORS SO SKIDDISH? 108 00:03:30,633 --> 00:03:36,666 >> WELL, I MEAN THERE'S THE 109 00:03:32,866 --> 00:03:38,400 PRIMARY REASON I THINK FROM THE 110 00:03:35,633 --> 00:03:40,666 FEDS PERSPECTIVE OF INTEREST 111 00:03:36,666 --> 00:03:42,266 RATES GOING UP HAS TO DO WITH 112 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:45,100 THIS IDEA OF NO BETTER 113 00:03:40,666 --> 00:03:47,900 ALTERNATIVES AND REALLOCATION OF 114 00:03:42,266 --> 00:03:49,833 FUNDS WHEN YOU SEE INTEREST 115 00:03:45,100 --> 00:03:51,666 RATES IN 1% RANGE AND NOW 2 AND 116 00:03:47,900 --> 00:03:54,500 ABOVE 2 LATER THIS YEAR YOU 117 00:03:49,833 --> 00:03:57,300 START TO ASK IS THERE A BETTER 118 00:03:51,666 --> 00:03:57,666 OPPORTUNITY THAN THE FIXED 119 00:03:54,500 --> 00:03:59,633 INCOME INSTRUMENTS VERSUS 120 00:03:57,300 --> 00:04:01,800 EQUITIES. 121 00:03:57,666 --> 00:04:03,233 THERE IS A CONSIDERATION AND 122 00:03:59,633 --> 00:04:05,500 THAT IS IMPACTFUL FOR TECHNOLOGY 123 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:09,033 COMPANIES OR HIGH GROWTH 124 00:04:03,233 --> 00:04:10,200 COMPANIES WHERE YOU DON'T 125 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:11,466 REALIZE THE VALUE IN TERMS OF 126 00:04:09,033 --> 00:04:13,600 FREE CASH FLOWS WELL INTO THE 127 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:15,500 FUTURE AND WHEN YOU SEE INTEREST 128 00:04:11,466 --> 00:04:18,333 RATES GO UP AND THINK ABOUT HOW 129 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:19,933 EQUITIES ARE IN EFFECT A 130 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:22,033 DISCOUNTED VALUATION BACK FOR 131 00:04:18,333 --> 00:04:23,833 THE FUTURE CASH FLOWS IF RATES 132 00:04:19,933 --> 00:04:25,700 GO UP THAT CHALLENGES THAT 133 00:04:22,033 --> 00:04:26,033 LONG-TERM VALUATION LEVEL WHICH 134 00:04:23,833 --> 00:04:28,000 IMPACTS TECHNOLOGY AT THE 135 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:28,366 MARGIN. 136 00:04:26,033 --> 00:04:30,433 WHAT WE'RE SEEING LEADING TO 137 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,166 DOWNSIDE. 138 00:04:28,366 --> 00:04:32,566 THAT IS THE RISK WITH THE FED 139 00:04:30,433 --> 00:04:36,033 AND INFLATION. 140 00:04:31,166 --> 00:04:37,533 THE CONCERN FOR THE MARKET IS 141 00:04:32,566 --> 00:04:39,200 THAT THE FED GOES TOO FAR TOO 142 00:04:36,033 --> 00:04:41,900 FAST AND TOO HIGH. 143 00:04:37,533 --> 00:04:43,000 I THINK AS LEE SAID WE'RE 144 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:45,100 PROBABLY AT THE PEAK HAWKISHNESS 145 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:46,800 RIGHT NOW. 146 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,133 WE SHOULD SEE THIS STUFF 147 00:04:45,100 --> 00:04:48,533 RETRENCH IN THE COMING WEEKS AND 148 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,266 MONTHS. 149 00:04:47,133 --> 00:04:52,266 AFTER THE MEETING THIS WEEK IN 150 00:04:48,533 --> 00:04:54,733 PARTICULAR. 151 00:04:49,266 --> 00:04:56,566 >> LEE BAKER WHAT ABOUT THE 152 00:04:52,266 --> 00:04:58,533 GEOPOLITICAL FACTORS, A PENDING 153 00:04:54,733 --> 00:05:00,000 MILITARY ACTION ON THE BORDER OF 154 00:04:56,566 --> 00:05:00,433 UKRAINE AND RUSSIA. 155 00:04:58,533 --> 00:05:03,000 THE OMICRON VARIANT OF THE 156 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,866 CORONAVIRUS. 157 00:05:00,433 --> 00:05:07,233 HOW BIG A FACTOR ARE THESE? 158 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:09,366 >> I THINK THOSE FACTORS ARE 159 00:05:05,866 --> 00:05:11,000 FAIRLY LARGE. 160 00:05:07,233 --> 00:05:13,300 PARTICULARLY THE GEOPOLITICAL 161 00:05:09,366 --> 00:05:14,966 WITH RUSSIA AND UKRAINE. 162 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:16,966 ANYTIME YOU'VE GOT THE SPECTER 163 00:05:13,300 --> 00:05:18,400 OF POTENTIAL MILITARY ACTION ON 164 00:05:14,966 --> 00:05:21,033 A LARGE SCALE, THAT MAKES PEOPLE 165 00:05:16,966 --> 00:05:22,566 NERVOUS BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW 166 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:23,966 HOW ALL THE DOWNHILLS WILL FALL. 167 00:05:21,033 --> 00:05:25,366 AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE 168 00:05:22,566 --> 00:05:28,500 LEARNED THROUGH THE YEARS IS 169 00:05:23,966 --> 00:05:30,466 MARKETS LIKE CERTAINTY. 170 00:05:25,366 --> 00:05:32,733 WELL, IF YOU ARE BRINGING IN THE 171 00:05:28,500 --> 00:05:34,966 SPECTER IF YOU WILL OF DOES THIS 172 00:05:30,466 --> 00:05:36,300 THING WITH RUSSIA AND UKRAINE 173 00:05:32,733 --> 00:05:36,666 END UP BEING SOMETHING BIG? 174 00:05:34,966 --> 00:05:38,166 DOES IT SPREAD TO OTHER 175 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:38,533 COUNTRIES? 176 00:05:36,666 --> 00:05:40,266 HOW DO OTHER COUNTRIES GET 177 00:05:38,166 --> 00:05:42,866 INVOLVED? 178 00:05:38,533 --> 00:05:43,600 THAT IS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AND 179 00:05:40,266 --> 00:05:47,033 THE MARKETS JUST DON'T LIKE THAT 180 00:05:42,866 --> 00:05:49,033 UNCERTAINTY. 181 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:51,233 NOW, ON THE COVID FRONT GIVES 182 00:05:47,033 --> 00:05:52,833 PEOPLE HOPE OR BELIEVE PERHAPS 183 00:05:49,033 --> 00:05:55,866 OMICRON IS THE BEGINNING OF THE 184 00:05:51,233 --> 00:05:56,666 END, IF YOU WILL, TO THE 185 00:05:52,833 --> 00:05:58,766 TRANSITION FROM PANDEMIC TO 186 00:05:55,866 --> 00:06:01,633 ENDEMIC. 187 00:05:56,666 --> 00:06:05,633 BUT IF THERE COMES ALONG ANOTHER 188 00:05:58,766 --> 00:06:07,533 VARIANT THAT IS AS TRANSMISSIBLE 189 00:06:01,633 --> 00:06:08,366 AS OMICRON BUT AS DEADLY OR 190 00:06:05,633 --> 00:06:09,766 SICKENING AS DELTA THEN ALL BETS 191 00:06:07,533 --> 00:06:11,433 ARE OFF. 192 00:06:08,366 --> 00:06:16,066 >> MICHAEL STRITCH WE HAVE A FEW 193 00:06:09,766 --> 00:06:18,666 SECONDS LEFT WHAT ABOUT CRYPTO? 194 00:06:11,433 --> 00:06:20,233 A LOT OF THE CRYPTOCURRENCY ARE 195 00:06:16,066 --> 00:06:21,166 WORRIED OF THE FREE FALL OF 196 00:06:18,666 --> 00:06:21,600 BITCOIN IS THIS PART OF THE 197 00:06:20,233 --> 00:06:25,933 NORMAL VOLATILITY? 198 00:06:21,166 --> 00:06:26,266 >> IT IS. 199 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:29,466 THAT IS THE SEGMENT MUCH LONGER 200 00:06:25,933 --> 00:06:30,533 SESSION. 201 00:06:26,266 --> 00:06:33,800 CRYPTO IS A SPECULATIVE 202 00:06:29,466 --> 00:06:35,200 TECHNOLOGY THERE IS CRYPTO IS 203 00:06:30,533 --> 00:06:36,566 FRONT AND CENTER IN THAT REGARD. 204 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,166 I EXPECT MORE PRESSURE IN THAT 205 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,800 SEGMENT IN THE FUTURE AS WELL. 206 00:06:36,566 --> 00:06:41,133 >> AND THAT CERTAINLY IS A TOPIC 207 00:06:38,166 --> 00:06:42,600 FOR ANOTHER DAY AND WE THANK LEE