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APPRAISER: As an example 
of Nimschke's work,

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I don't think you 
could find any better.

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Collector: Wow is the only 
thing that comes to mind.

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Woo-hoo.

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Collector: Got it at 
a secondhand shop.

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APPRAISER: 
Can I ask for how much?

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Collector: $10 plus tax.

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APPRAISER: I want 
to go shopping with you.

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Collector: Okay.

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APPRAISER: This not only 
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but also crosses over into the 
history of Pimlico horse racing

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and related memorabilia.

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HOST: This is 
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I'm your host Rhea Feikin and 
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from Turf Valley Resort 
all season long.

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Our possessions can reveal a bit 
of how individual people lived

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and worked decades 
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but whether an object was 
utilitarian or a work of art,

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Let's see what moments 
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JERRY COATES: Well, welcome 
to Chesapeake Collectibles ,

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certainly glad to see you and 
particularly glad to see

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the items that you have here.

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Can you tell us just a little 
bit about the two pieces that

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you brought in today?

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COLLECTOR: Yeah, I'm glad to be 
here because I need to find out

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a lot about them.

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They stump me in terms of 
their value and the pristine

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condition.

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The first one is a Colt 1876 
Army and this is a...

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Winchester 1873 rifle and 
they made them the same

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caliber so that the cartridges 
would match.

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JERRY: The working cowboys 
and so forth liked that.

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COLLECTOR: Exactly, exactly.

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JERRY: These go a step beyond 
the cowboy gun.

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COLLECTOR: Thank you, they do.

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The gun itself that I do know 
about is engraved by Nimschke,

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he was sort of the Picasso 
of the gun engravers.

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Only 35 percent of 
them are signed.

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This one is not signed 
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that's why I'm here.

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They've stumped me.

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The condition is beyond my 
estimation in terms of value.

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JERRY: Nimschke was... 
whether he was the premier

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engraver of the time period, 
but if he wasn't he was

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one of the two or three top 
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His engraving is sought after by 
everybody that has any interest

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in, not firearms, but he 
engraved other material too.

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COLLECTOR: 
Oh, I didn't know that.

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JERRY: Yeah.

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This Colt is extremely fine.

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It's got the ivory grips which 
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As an example of 
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I don't think you 
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I've only maybe seen one or two 
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to him.

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He only put initials on 
a very, very few.

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This one is exceptional.

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You said you really didn't 
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You have to realize that 
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once it goes into the market, 
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the prices can go anywhere.

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My opinion is that a minimum 
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45,000-50,000.

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COLLECTOR: Woo-hoo.

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JERRY: 
And it could go up.

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It could go to 60, and again, 
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you get two people battling 
for it, it could go anywhere,

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but as I said a minimum 
would be 45,000-50,000.

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COLLECTOR: Wow is the only 
thing that comes to mind.

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JERRY: 
Let's turn to the Winchester.

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The Winchester has 
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It's the model 1873 and you 
did have a letter on this.

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Said its got, if you'll 
excuse the impression,

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all the bells and whistles 
that it could possibly have.

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Its got the very fine 
checkering on the stock.

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It's the triple, triple grade, 
high grade wood

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which very finely engraved.

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I think the case hardening 
remains on the receiver and it's

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the first model which is 
indicated by a couple of things.

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One is a little mark up here 
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and that only existed on the 
first several thousand,

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what they termed 
the first model.

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Anyway, in the world 
of '73 Winchesters,

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you just don't get any better.

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Again I'll say that if it goes 
to auction it could go anywhere.

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A minimum on this is going to 
be in the 50,000 range.

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COLLECTOR: Woo!

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JERRY: Go up to 65,000.

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I help with an auction house 
that we had one in a couple of

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years ago that was equal in 
some respects, but not equal,

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and it brought over 30 thousand, 
but this is an exceptional

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Winchester.

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It's very fine.

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You're very fortunate 
to have it.

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COLLECTOR: Thank you.

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JERRY: I can't tell you how glad 
I am you brought it in.

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COLLECTOR: Thank you.

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You've made my day.

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JERRY: Thank you so much 
for bringing it in.

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COLLECTOR: Thank you.

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JERRY: It was a pure treat just 
to be able to look at them.

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ALLAN STYPECK: So what 
did you bring us today?

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COLLECTOR: I brought a program 
from the match race

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at Pimlico between War Admiral 
and Seabiscuit.

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ALLAN: Really? 
And how did you get it?

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COLLECTOR: Through family.

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I'm in racing.

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My wife's family was in racing.

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Her uncle gave this to us and 
a bunch of other memorabilia.

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ALLAN: What do you 
do in the racing community?

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COLLECTOR: 
Right now I'm a steward.

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I'm a steward for the 
Maryland Racing Commission.

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ALLAN: 
Did you ride before that?

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COLLECTOR: I did.

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I was a jockey for 
eight years before that.

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ALLAN: Where did you ride?

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COLLECTOR: I rode... I'm from 
Ohio so I rode around Cleveland,

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and Michigan, Pennsylvania.

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ALLAN: Yeah?

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Florida.

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ALLAN: Win any big races?

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COLLECTOR: No.

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ALLAN: No?

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COLLECTOR: No.

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ALLAN: Okay.

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Claimings and stakes?

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COLLECTOR: Yeah, 
just making a living.

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ALLAN: Did you enjoy it?

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COLLECTOR: I did.

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Winning is... 
nothing like it.

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ALLAN: Yeah, I've...I used to 
own some race horses.

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I have to tell you 
I miss that life.

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COLLECTOR: Yeah, 
winning is everything.

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ALLAN: Right.

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So you brought this in.

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It came from your family.

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Do you know anything about 
the history of the match race?

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COLLECTOR: Yes.

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ALLAN: November 1st, 1938 
Seabiscuit ran against

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War Admiral.

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War Admiral was the 
East Coast patrician horse.

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The greatest sire.

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Seabiscuit was this West Coast, 
under the radar screen horse.

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It was called the 
race of the century.

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The race of all time.

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It was so important, 
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in a cabinet meeting when the 
race was to go off

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and he stopped the cabinet 
meeting and he made the race

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publicly accessible to 
40 million people.

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There was psychological 
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He believed that the country 
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East Coast, West Coast.

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The horse race was going 
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A West Coast horse versus an 
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used it to kind of get people to 
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and the oncoming war in Germany, 
and all the war clouds.

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So this was a great PR move 
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who was the two to one underdog, 
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was the one to four favorite, 
came out of the gate

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really fast.

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Wound up winning the race by 
four lengths and became the hero

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of the underclass, I mean 
which was really a unifier

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for the country.

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So there was this incredible 
bonding that everybody-

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Seabiscuit became the hero 
to the working man.

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So it has great 
historical significance.

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I would evaluate it in this 
current market for somewhere

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between 2,500 to 5,000 dollars.

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It's a very interesting piece, 
very important piece.

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COLLECTOR: Oh, nice.

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ALLAN: Thank you.

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ROSS KELBAUGH: 
Its story, its history.

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RHEA: Appraiser Ross Kelbaugh 
has immersed himself in

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the rich history and culture 
of our region and country.

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His collection of early 
photographs capture iconic

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moments in forgotten lives and 
illuminate tumultuous times

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in history.

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Today he's brought us an 
intriguing selection of vintage

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panoramic photographs that 
literally widen our view of

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early 20th century 
life and times.

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ROSS: Today for my segment 
I wanted to talk about

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a photographic format that 
you're liable to see when

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you go to antique shops, 
antique shows, flea markets,

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online, and even when you happen 
to go to Cracker Barrel.

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These are panoramic photographs 
and were commonly known as

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yard long photos.

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The year of popularity was from 
about 1900 to the 1950's

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and it was made possible by 
technological advance

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with roll film replacing the 
bulky glass plate negatives

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of the 19th century, and also a 
unique camera was developed

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that would expose the film 
as the film moved in the camera.

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The biggest business for 
photographers who practiced

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this type of photography was 
photographs of groups

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because you hoped that everybody 
in the picture might buy a copy.

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So schools, churches, 
fraternal organizations,

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sports teams and even the 
military became a big source

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of income for photographers 
doing panoramic photographs.

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The military particularly became 
a very big field after 1917

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when the United States entered 
into World War I.

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More than four million Americans 
served and virtually all of them

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would be recorded in panoramic 
photographs of their companies,

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regiments, and even 
of their divisions.

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This example that I brought in 
here today from my collection

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is a group of Maryland boys from 
Company A of the 115th Infantry

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of the famed 29th Division.

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Their photograph was taken after 
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basic training, were waiting 
to be shipped overseas.

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The picture was taken in 
Anniston, Alabama

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in March of 1918.

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These brave young men were posed 
ready to go over to fight in the

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trenches in Europe unknowing 
that sixteen of these

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individuals would 
not come back alive.

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This image was one, actually I 
bought last year in an

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antique shop 
out near Hagerstown.

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It was priced at less than a 
hundred dollars and visually

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it was a very interesting image.

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If you wonder how these 
photographs were taken it would

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look like the people were 
lined up in a straight line

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but actually they were 
put in a semi-circle.

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This is a rare photo of actually 
the process and the camera was

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placed on the top of a tripod 
and a clockwork mechanism

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rotated the camera taking the 
picture sweeping of the crowd

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that were there while exposed 
the negative that was moving

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inside of the camera.

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I've heard stories that 
pranksters at the time sometimes

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would get at one end of the 
crowd and after the camera had

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gone by they'd run around behind 
the photographer and get on the

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other end and turn up 
in the picture twice.

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I've never seen one like that, 
but that's one you can keep

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an eye out for while you're 
out on the antiques trail.

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Here you have these gals 
in their bathing suits.

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Very unusual to come across 
this as a subject matter.

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I purchased it, brought it home 
and began to research

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what this was all about.

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When I noticed that in the 
corner it was signed that this

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was the Intercity Beauties 
Contest in Atlantic City

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in 1924.

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Well, consulting Mr. Google, 
I found that the

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Intercity Beauties Contest 
had begun in 1921.

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The whole idea was to be able to 
bring tourists to Atlantic City

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after the seasons had 
ended at Labor Day,

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and it was so successful 
that it continued in 1922,

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1923 and 1924.

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This one was taken in 1924 and 
in doing the research

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I found out a very interesting 
person who happens to

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appear here, and this young gal, 
right here, is Mary Campbell.

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Mary Campbell won the contest in 
1922 and she became the second

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Miss America.

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That's right, this is the 
beginning of the Miss America

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Contest.

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She was 16 years old, 
lied about her age

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and continued to compete.

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In 1923 she came back.

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She won again.

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So she was Miss America 
two years in a row,

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and she then came back 
to compete again in 1924.

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So what we have in this 
photograph here are all of the

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contestants from the 
cities, not states,

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but from the cities that were 
competing in what was

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the early years of 
the Miss America Pageant.

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ROSS: Now, a game I like to 
play with visitors is show them

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this picture and see if they 
can pick out who won in 1924.

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If you promise not to tell 
anybody I'll tell you

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that actually Miss Philadelphia 
was the one who won in 1924.

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Mary Campbell came 
in first runner up.

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A rule was passed by the Pageant 
after that that no contestant

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who had won Miss America 
could ever compete again.

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So she in fact is the only 
Miss America who was crowned

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twice by the Pageant.

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So, you never know when you're 
out there on the market,

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looking on the antique trail, 
keep your eye out for these

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yard long photographs and you 
too might have a collecting

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experience.

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APPRAISER: 
Yeah it does make a difference.

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ROSS: I was really excited to 
see what you brought

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in here today.

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This is the first time 
that we've had a panoramic,

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or what is sometimes called a 
yard long photograph come into

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the show, and I was 
particularly interested in is

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to the subject matter.

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Now, what do you have here?

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COLLECTOR: It's a picture 
of Pimlico Racetrack.

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ROSS: And do you know 
anything about it?

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COLLECTOR: It belongs to a 
friend of mine who could not be

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here today and he was interested 
in finding out more about it

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himself.

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ROSS: Now here we have 
one of the most locally historic

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location and also a 
nationally important location.

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This is the first time that 
I have actually ever seen

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a panoramic photograph 
done of Pimlico.

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Now, Pimlico actually gets its 
name going back to colonial

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times, was named by- the early 
English settlers,

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named after a popular 
tavern in London.

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COLLECTOR: Really?

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ROSS: And in 1870 the racecourse 
was opened and actually now

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is the second oldest racetrack 
for horses in the United States

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behind Saratoga.

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The race, they had a dinner 
party, Stakes, they called it,

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race was one of the biggest 
races they had that year,

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and the horse that won it was 
named Preakness and it has now

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been called the Preakness Stakes 
race ever since.

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COLLECTOR: Wow.

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ROSS: What really interested me 
was when in the world

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could this have been taken 
because there's a lot of

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people there.

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We see some of the landmarks 
that are actually gone today.

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On the far side of the left 
we have the old club house.

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That burned down in 1966 and 
that belonged to the Maryland

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Jockey Club who have 
owned the race site.

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The old grand stand we 
see here in the middle,

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which certainly has all 
been modified today,

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and places that are 
not there today.

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So we know it has 
some aging to it.

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I was thinking maybe it was the 
Preakness and usually that's

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like in the spring, but when you 
look at audience very carefully,

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I notice that there, a lot 
of men are wearing overcoats,

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and I was kind of 
surprised with that.

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Something is going on because 
they're all looking down to the

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right hand side of the field, 
and if you look very, very,

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very carefully, a blur down 
on the far right hand side.

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A race is going on that has 
been captured in motion.

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Also the name of the 
photographer, Brown,

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was a photographer who 
specialized in panoramic

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photographs in Washington, D.C.

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Then going online and doing some 
further research,

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I found that at the 
University of Maryland

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Baltimore County, in their 
collection they have

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a glass plate negative copy 
of this photograph.

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COLLECTOR: Wow.

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ROSS: Not the glass plate 
that the image was made from.

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This was made from a panoramic 
camera but there was a glass

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plate copy in their collection, 
and written on the sleeve

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for the glass plate was a 
date of December 1921.

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Next place that you go 
is to the newspapers.

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Now, it's amazing with the 
amount of information that you

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have online: websites that 
have complete runs of digital

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newspapers from the past.

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I went looking December 1921 
in the Sun Papers

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to see what happened.

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All the racing that was going on 
at that time had moved south.

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So backtracking to 
November 5th of 1921,

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they had a race there at Pimlico 
that was better attended

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than the Preakness that spring.

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Over 21,000 people came to see 
a horse named Morvich run.

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Morvich was a two year old and 
this was a futurity race

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that they had I guess just 
for two year olds.

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The horse had been in ten races 
previously, had won them all.

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COLLECTOR: Wow.

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ROSS: And people were 
hoping that this was going to be

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the next Man o' War who had 
just preceded all of this.

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So people turned out that day 
for this race and it was also

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the biggest purse for a race 
in Maryland there in 1921.

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Off they went.

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Morvich actually stayed behind 
halfway through the race.

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As they got past the midpoint, 
jockey turned him on and away

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he went and he ended up winning.

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Purse that he won, 
42,750 dollars.

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This is the front page 
from the Sun Papers

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reporting about the race.

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That was the biggest purse at 
the time and the writer for the

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newspaper had mentioned that 
this was more money than

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ten average workers with a 
college graduation would make

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in a year.

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So they made a big deal about 
the owner of this horse

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being able to pocket 
all that money.

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COLLECTOR: I'll bet.

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ROSS: The horse went on to win 
the Kentucky Derby

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and everybody thought this is 
really going to be something.

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Then after that the horse 
didn't win any more races.

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Didn't win any more races, and 
later they attributed it,

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maybe he had problems with 
his ankles or with his leg,

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or something like that.

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COLLECTOR: 
Still quite a history.

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ROSS: Yeah, quite a history 
for finally being able to

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nail down when I believe 
this photograph was taken.

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So, had any valuation been put 
on this photograph

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that you know of?

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COLLECTOR: Not that I know of.

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ROSS: Knowing what we can 
connect to now,

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I would say probably at least 
750 to 1500 dollars,

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or more because this not only 
is a historical document,

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but also crosses over into those 
people who are interested in

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horse racing and related 
memorabilia and the history of

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Pimlico now that we know what 
it's connected with

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that the valuation could 
really go from there.

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All you need is two people 
who want it really bad.

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COLLECTOR: All right.

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ROSS: So I thank you 
very much for bringing this

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piece of history in today 
for us to be able to see,

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find out from the mists of 
history this incredible race

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that took place for 
poor Morvich, who, well,

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almost made it... 
all the way to the end.

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COLLECTOR: Amazing.

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Well you're welcome and thank 
you for taking the time

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and doing the research.

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It's impressive, really.

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ROSS: Thank you.

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AMORY LECUYER: I want to thank 
you for coming out to

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Chesapeake Collectibles today, 
and when you walked up to my

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table and began to open this up 
I knew what a wonderful little

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thing I was intrigued for.

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Can you tell me a little 
bit about what you brought?

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COLLECTOR: Well, it's just a 
miniature painting on ivory,

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in a tortoise shell 
and ivory frame.

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Not original frame, and I 
got it at a second hand shop.

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AMORY: You got this at a 
second hand shop?

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COLLECTOR: Yep.

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AMORY: 
Can I ask for how much?

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COLLECTOR: Ten dollars.

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Plus tax.

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AMORY: I want to go 
shopping with you.

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COLLECTOR: Okay.

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AMORY: All right, 
this is kind of an interesting

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moment.

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What we have here, 
we do have ivory.

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Now ivory is a highly 
controversial topic around our

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industry these days because of 
certain bans that are in place,

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and while we could look at this 
and say because of the artist,

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because of the portrait, because 
of the style it dates probably

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late 1700's, early 1800's.

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COLLECTOR: 
I would think so, yes.

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AMORY: That is not enough 
in most cases to satisfy

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the current climate of 
regulation and requirement

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to make it safe to sell.

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COLLECTOR: Right.

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AMORY: Now, you could sell it 
to your neighbor

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across the street and 
that's no problem.

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You give it to me to sell to 
your neighbor across the street

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at auction, that's where the 
problem begins to be created.

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It is on ivory.

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It is a wonderful portrait 
of a royal female.

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It is signed by Fuge, and if it 
were not in this controversial

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category right now, at auction I 
would be looking for this to do

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maybe between 
500 and 700 dollars.

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Miniature portrait, particularly 
one of this quality,

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is just pretty exceptional.

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The detail work on here is 
exactly what you'd want to see.

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Wonderful subject matter, 
and prior to the controversy

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surrounding the ivory, the ivory 
would have added another premium

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value.

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In today's market it 
is very controversial.

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I'm glad you didn't pay... 
I mean the 10 dollars

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certainly worth that just to 
hang it on the wall at home,

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but it may be something where 
the attitude toward particularly

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older pieces like this in the 
future is going to change,

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and then that's where you're 
going to be able to reap

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the benefit of some really 
brilliant buying.

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AMORY: But I want to thank you 
for coming out because

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it's one of a... 
extraordinary piece.

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COLLECTOR: Well thank you.

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[Background chatter]

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RHEA: 
We've come to the end of another

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Chesapeake Collectibles and 
it's really been fun.

481
00:24:12,567 --> 00:24:15,701
You're never going to guess what 
we have planned for next week.

482
00:24:15,801 --> 00:24:17,234
Here's a sample.

483
00:24:17,334 --> 00:24:20,200
ROSS: When I saw this, 
really knocked me out.

484
00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:24,033
It is an important moment 
in Maryland history,

485
00:24:24,133 --> 00:24:27,868
in Baltimore history, 
and in photographic history.

486
00:24:27,968 --> 00:24:31,501
JERRY: A pistol like this 
sort of can speak for itself.

487
00:24:31,601 --> 00:24:35,434
It's got a history that 
it's wanting to tell you.

488
00:24:35,534 --> 00:24:36,601
COLLECTOR: My heavens.

489
00:24:36,701 --> 00:24:38,734
COLLEEN: Oh yeah, with 
the pieces of the turquoise,

490
00:24:38,834 --> 00:24:41,434
the corral and the 
bear claw on that one,

491
00:24:41,534 --> 00:24:44,100
I haven't seen something 
like this is a long time.

492
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,100
COLLECTOR: When I buy a 
piece of art, I go by, (gasps).

493
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,300
That's the reaction so I must 
get it and I encountered

494
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,734
this piece and I had a big, 
(gasps).

495
00:24:52,834 --> 00:24:55,667
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496
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497
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