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HOST: Coming up on
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APPRAISER: As an example
of Nimschke's work,

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I don't think you
could find any better.

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Collector: Wow is the only
thing that comes to mind.

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Woo-hoo.

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Collector: Got it at
a secondhand shop.

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APPRAISER:
Can I ask for how much?

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Collector: $10 plus tax.

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APPRAISER: I want
to go shopping with you.

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Collector: Okay.

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APPRAISER: This not only
is a historical document,

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but also crosses over into the
history of Pimlico horse racing

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and related memorabilia.

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HOST: This is
 Chesapeake Collectibles .

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I'm your host Rhea Feikin and
we're delighted to come to you

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from Turf Valley Resort
all season long.

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Our possessions can reveal a bit
of how individual people lived

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and worked decades
or centuries ago,

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but whether an object was
utilitarian or a work of art,

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its style and substance reflect
the values and habits of our

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culture at that moment in time.

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Let's see what moments
have been captured today.

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JERRY COATES: Well, welcome
to Chesapeake Collectibles ,

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certainly glad to see you and
particularly glad to see

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the items that you have here.

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Can you tell us just a little
bit about the two pieces that

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you brought in today?

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COLLECTOR: Yeah, I'm glad to be
here because I need to find out

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a lot about them.

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They stump me in terms of
their value and the pristine

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condition.

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The first one is a Colt 1876
Army and this is a...

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Winchester 1873 rifle and
they made them the same

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caliber so that the cartridges
would match.

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JERRY: The working cowboys
and so forth liked that.

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COLLECTOR: Exactly, exactly.

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JERRY: These go a step beyond
the cowboy gun.

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COLLECTOR: Thank you, they do.

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The gun itself that I do know
about is engraved by Nimschke,

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he was sort of the Picasso
of the gun engravers.

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Only 35 percent of
them are signed.

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This one is not signed
and in terms of the value

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that's why I'm here.

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They've stumped me.

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The condition is beyond my
estimation in terms of value.

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JERRY: Nimschke was...
whether he was the premier

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engraver of the time period,
but if he wasn't he was

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one of the two or three top
in the world.

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His engraving is sought after by
everybody that has any interest

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in, not firearms, but he
engraved other material too.

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COLLECTOR:
Oh, I didn't know that.

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JERRY: Yeah.

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This Colt is extremely fine.

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It's got the ivory grips which
are just absolutely perfect.

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As an example of
Nimschke's work,

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I don't think you
could find any better.

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I've only maybe seen one or two
others that are attributed

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to him.

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He only put initials on
a very, very few.

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This one is exceptional.

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You said you really didn't
have a good idea of value.

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You have to realize that
something like this,

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once it goes into the market,
particularly at an auction

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the prices can go anywhere.

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My opinion is that a minimum
value would be

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45,000-50,000.

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COLLECTOR: Woo-hoo.

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JERRY:
And it could go up.

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It could go to 60, and again,
depending on the auction,

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you get two people battling
for it, it could go anywhere,

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but as I said a minimum
would be 45,000-50,000.

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COLLECTOR: Wow is the only
thing that comes to mind.

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JERRY:
Let's turn to the Winchester.

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The Winchester has
its own wow factor.

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It's the model 1873 and you
did have a letter on this.

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Said its got, if you'll
excuse the impression,

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all the bells and whistles
that it could possibly have.

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Its got the very fine
checkering on the stock.

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It's the triple, triple grade,
high grade wood

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which very finely engraved.

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I think the case hardening
remains on the receiver and it's

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the first model which is
indicated by a couple of things.

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One is a little mark up here
that they call a thumb mark

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and that only existed on the
first several thousand,

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what they termed
the first model.

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Anyway, in the world
of '73 Winchesters,

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you just don't get any better.

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Again I'll say that if it goes
to auction it could go anywhere.

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A minimum on this is going to
be in the 50,000 range.

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COLLECTOR: Woo!

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JERRY: Go up to 65,000.

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I help with an auction house
that we had one in a couple of

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years ago that was equal in
some respects, but not equal,

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and it brought over 30 thousand,
but this is an exceptional

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Winchester.

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It's very fine.

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You're very fortunate
to have it.

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COLLECTOR: Thank you.

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JERRY: I can't tell you how glad
I am you brought it in.

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COLLECTOR: Thank you.

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You've made my day.

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JERRY: Thank you so much
for bringing it in.

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COLLECTOR: Thank you.

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JERRY: It was a pure treat just
to be able to look at them.

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ALLAN STYPECK: So what
did you bring us today?

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COLLECTOR: I brought a program
from the match race

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at Pimlico between War Admiral
and Seabiscuit.

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ALLAN: Really?
And how did you get it?

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COLLECTOR: Through family.

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I'm in racing.

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My wife's family was in racing.

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Her uncle gave this to us and
a bunch of other memorabilia.

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ALLAN: What do you
do in the racing community?

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COLLECTOR:
Right now I'm a steward.

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I'm a steward for the
Maryland Racing Commission.

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ALLAN:
Did you ride before that?

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COLLECTOR: I did.

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I was a jockey for
eight years before that.

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ALLAN: Where did you ride?

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COLLECTOR: I rode... I'm from
Ohio so I rode around Cleveland,

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and Michigan, Pennsylvania.

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ALLAN: Yeah?

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Florida.

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ALLAN: Win any big races?

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COLLECTOR: No.

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ALLAN: No?

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COLLECTOR: No.

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ALLAN: Okay.

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Claimings and stakes?

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COLLECTOR: Yeah,
just making a living.

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ALLAN: Did you enjoy it?

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COLLECTOR: I did.

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Winning is...
nothing like it.

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ALLAN: Yeah, I've...I used to
own some race horses.

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I have to tell you
I miss that life.

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COLLECTOR: Yeah,
winning is everything.

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ALLAN: Right.

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So you brought this in.

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It came from your family.

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Do you know anything about
the history of the match race?

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COLLECTOR: Yes.

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ALLAN: November 1st, 1938
Seabiscuit ran against

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War Admiral.

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War Admiral was the
East Coast patrician horse.

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The greatest sire.

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Seabiscuit was this West Coast,
under the radar screen horse.

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It was called the
race of the century.

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The race of all time.

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It was so important,
that Franklin Roosevelt was

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in a cabinet meeting when the
race was to go off

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and he stopped the cabinet
meeting and he made the race

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publicly accessible to
40 million people.

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There was psychological
reasons why he did this.

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He believed that the country
needed something to unify them.

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East Coast, West Coast.

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The horse race was going
to be an American race.

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A West Coast horse versus an
East Coast horse and so he

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used it to kind of get people to
forget the depression

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and the oncoming war in Germany,
and all the war clouds.

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So this was a great PR move
and Seabiscuit,

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who was the two to one underdog,
of course War Admiral

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was the one to four favorite,
came out of the gate

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really fast.

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Wound up winning the race by
four lengths and became the hero

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of the underclass, I mean
which was really a unifier

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for the country.

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So there was this incredible
bonding that everybody-

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Seabiscuit became the hero
to the working man.

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So it has great
historical significance.

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I would evaluate it in this
current market for somewhere

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between 2,500 to 5,000 dollars.

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It's a very interesting piece,
very important piece.

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COLLECTOR: Oh, nice.

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Thanks.

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ALLAN: Thank you.

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ROSS KELBAUGH:
Its story, its history.

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RHEA: Appraiser Ross Kelbaugh
has immersed himself in

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the rich history and culture
of our region and country.

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His collection of early
photographs capture iconic

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moments in forgotten lives and
illuminate tumultuous times

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in history.

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Today he's brought us an
intriguing selection of vintage

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panoramic photographs that
literally widen our view of

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early 20th century
life and times.

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ROSS: Today for my segment
I wanted to talk about

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a photographic format that
you're liable to see when

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you go to antique shops,
antique shows, flea markets,

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online, and even when you happen
to go to Cracker Barrel.

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These are panoramic photographs
and were commonly known as

10:02.734 --> 10:04.667 position:10% line:50% size:80%
yard long photos.

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The year of popularity was from
about 1900 to the 1950's

10:08.801 --> 10:12.300 position:10% line:50% size:80%
and it was made possible by
technological advance

10:12.400 --> 10:16.400 position:10% line:50% size:80%
with roll film replacing the
bulky glass plate negatives

10:16.501 --> 10:20.000 position:10% line:50% size:80%
of the 19th century, and also a
unique camera was developed

10:20.100 --> 10:24.968 position:10% line:50% size:80%
that would expose the film
as the film moved in the camera.

10:25.067 --> 10:28.567 position:10% line:50% size:80%
The biggest business for
photographers who practiced

10:28.667 --> 10:31.901 position:10% line:50% size:80%
this type of photography was
photographs of groups

10:32.000 --> 10:35.901 position:10% line:50% size:80%
because you hoped that everybody
in the picture might buy a copy.

10:36.000 --> 10:40.067 position:10% line:50% size:80%
So schools, churches,
fraternal organizations,

10:40.167 --> 10:44.067 position:10% line:50% size:80%
sports teams and even the
military became a big source

10:44.167 --> 10:48.067 position:10% line:50% size:80%
of income for photographers
doing panoramic photographs.

10:48.167 --> 10:53.334 position:10% line:50% size:80%
The military particularly became
a very big field after 1917

10:53.434 --> 10:56.534 position:10% line:50% size:80%
when the United States entered
into World War I.

10:56.634 --> 11:01.334 position:10% line:50% size:80%
More than four million Americans
served and virtually all of them

11:01.434 --> 11:05.767 position:10% line:50% size:80%
would be recorded in panoramic
photographs of their companies,

11:05.868 --> 11:08.667 position:10% line:50% size:80%
regiments, and even
of their divisions.

11:08.767 --> 11:12.367 position:10% line:50% size:80%
This example that I brought in
here today from my collection

11:12.467 --> 11:18.367 position:10% line:50% size:80%
is a group of Maryland boys from
Company A of the 115th Infantry

11:18.467 --> 11:20.701 position:10% line:50% size:80%
of the famed 29th Division.

11:20.801 --> 11:24.067 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Their photograph was taken after
they had completed their

11:24.167 --> 11:27.200 position:10% line:50% size:80%
basic training, were waiting
to be shipped overseas.

11:27.300 --> 11:30.701 position:10% line:50% size:80%
The picture was taken in
Anniston, Alabama

11:30.801 --> 11:32.901 position:10% line:50% size:80%
in March of 1918.

11:33.000 --> 11:36.667 position:10% line:50% size:80%
These brave young men were posed
ready to go over to fight in the

11:36.767 --> 11:41.367 position:10% line:50% size:80%
trenches in Europe unknowing
that sixteen of these

11:41.467 --> 11:44.901 position:10% line:50% size:80%
individuals would
not come back alive.

11:45.000 --> 11:48.567 position:10% line:50% size:80%
This image was one, actually I
bought last year in an

11:48.667 --> 11:51.133 position:10% line:50% size:80%
antique shop
out near Hagerstown.

11:51.234 --> 11:53.868 position:10% line:50% size:80%
It was priced at less than a
hundred dollars and visually

11:53.968 --> 11:56.200 position:10% line:50% size:80%
it was a very interesting image.

11:56.300 --> 11:58.534 position:10% line:50% size:80%
If you wonder how these
photographs were taken it would

11:58.634 --> 12:01.367 position:10% line:50% size:80%
look like the people were
lined up in a straight line

12:01.467 --> 12:04.167 position:10% line:50% size:80%
but actually they were
put in a semi-circle.

12:04.267 --> 12:08.200 position:10% line:50% size:80%
This is a rare photo of actually
the process and the camera was

12:08.300 --> 12:12.067 position:10% line:50% size:80%
placed on the top of a tripod
and a clockwork mechanism

12:12.167 --> 12:16.133 position:10% line:50% size:80%
rotated the camera taking the
picture sweeping of the crowd

12:16.234 --> 12:19.300 position:10% line:50% size:80%
that were there while exposed
the negative that was moving

12:19.400 --> 12:20.701 position:10% line:50% size:80%
inside of the camera.

12:20.801 --> 12:23.734 position:10% line:50% size:80%
I've heard stories that
pranksters at the time sometimes

12:23.834 --> 12:27.734 position:10% line:50% size:80%
would get at one end of the
crowd and after the camera had

12:27.834 --> 12:31.200 position:10% line:50% size:80%
gone by they'd run around behind
the photographer and get on the

12:31.300 --> 12:33.834 position:10% line:50% size:80%
other end and turn up
in the picture twice.

12:33.934 --> 12:36.400 position:10% line:50% size:80%
I've never seen one like that,
but that's one you can keep

12:36.501 --> 12:39.634 position:10% line:50% size:80%
an eye out for while you're
out on the antiques trail.

12:39.734 --> 12:42.200 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Here you have these gals
in their bathing suits.

12:42.300 --> 12:45.000 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Very unusual to come across
this as a subject matter.

12:45.100 --> 12:48.767 position:10% line:50% size:80%
I purchased it, brought it home
and began to research

12:48.868 --> 12:50.067 position:10% line:50% size:80%
what this was all about.

12:50.167 --> 12:53.267 position:10% line:50% size:80%
When I noticed that in the
corner it was signed that this

12:53.367 --> 12:57.334 position:10% line:50% size:80%
was the Intercity Beauties
Contest in Atlantic City

12:57.434 --> 12:58.868 position:10% line:50% size:80%
in 1924.

12:58.968 --> 13:01.834 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Well, consulting Mr. Google,
I found that the

13:01.934 --> 13:05.901 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Intercity Beauties Contest
had begun in 1921.

13:06.000 --> 13:09.367 position:10% line:50% size:80%
The whole idea was to be able to
bring tourists to Atlantic City

13:09.467 --> 13:12.300 position:10% line:50% size:80%
after the seasons had
ended at Labor Day,

13:12.400 --> 13:15.868 position:10% line:50% size:80%
and it was so successful
that it continued in 1922,

13:15.968 --> 13:19.334 position:10% line:50% size:80%
1923 and 1924.

13:19.434 --> 13:24.167 position:10% line:50% size:80%
This one was taken in 1924 and
in doing the research

13:24.267 --> 13:26.968 position:10% line:50% size:80%
I found out a very interesting
person who happens to

13:27.067 --> 13:32.801 position:10% line:50% size:80%
appear here, and this young gal,
right here, is Mary Campbell.

13:32.901 --> 13:39.767 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Mary Campbell won the contest in
1922 and she became the second

13:39.868 --> 13:41.100 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Miss America.

13:41.200 --> 13:44.834 position:10% line:50% size:80%
That's right, this is the
beginning of the Miss America

13:44.934 --> 13:46.167 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Contest.

13:46.267 --> 13:49.367 position:10% line:50% size:80%
She was 16 years old,
lied about her age

13:49.467 --> 13:52.100 position:10% line:50% size:80%
and continued to compete.

13:52.200 --> 13:54.100 position:10% line:50% size:80%
In 1923 she came back.

13:54.200 --> 13:55.367 position:10% line:50% size:80%
She won again.

13:55.467 --> 13:57.934 position:10% line:50% size:80%
So she was Miss America
two years in a row,

13:58.033 --> 14:02.767 position:10% line:50% size:80%
and she then came back
to compete again in 1924.

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So what we have in this
photograph here are all of the

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contestants from the
cities, not states,

14:08.467 --> 14:11.801 position:10% line:50% size:80%
but from the cities that were
competing in what was

14:11.901 --> 14:14.534 position:10% line:50% size:80%
the early years of
the Miss America Pageant.

14:14.634 --> 14:18.200 position:10% line:50% size:80%
ROSS: Now, a game I like to
play with visitors is show them

14:18.300 --> 14:23.200 position:10% line:50% size:80%
this picture and see if they
can pick out who won in 1924.

14:23.300 --> 14:26.200 position:10% line:50% size:80%
If you promise not to tell
anybody I'll tell you

14:26.300 --> 14:32.334 position:10% line:50% size:80%
that actually Miss Philadelphia
was the one who won in 1924.

14:32.434 --> 14:35.701 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Mary Campbell came
in first runner up.

14:35.801 --> 14:39.901 position:10% line:50% size:80%
A rule was passed by the Pageant
after that that no contestant

14:40.000 --> 14:43.100 position:10% line:50% size:80%
who had won Miss America
could ever compete again.

14:43.200 --> 14:48.834 position:10% line:50% size:80%
So she in fact is the only
Miss America who was crowned

14:48.934 --> 14:51.067 position:10% line:50% size:80%
twice by the Pageant.

14:51.167 --> 14:53.767 position:10% line:50% size:80%
So, you never know when you're
out there on the market,

14:53.868 --> 14:57.300 position:10% line:50% size:80%
looking on the antique trail,
keep your eye out for these

14:57.400 --> 15:02.634 position:10% line:50% size:80%
yard long photographs and you
too might have a collecting

15:02.734 --> 15:04.267 position:10% line:50% size:80%
experience.

15:04.367 --> 15:08.834 position:10% line:50% size:80%
APPRAISER:
Yeah it does make a difference.

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ROSS: I was really excited to
see what you brought

15:10.801 --> 15:12.067 position:10% line:50% size:80%
in here today.

15:12.167 --> 15:14.701 position:10% line:50% size:80%
This is the first time
that we've had a panoramic,

15:14.801 --> 15:17.934 position:10% line:50% size:80%
or what is sometimes called a
yard long photograph come into

15:18.033 --> 15:20.734 position:10% line:50% size:80%
the show, and I was
particularly interested in is

15:20.834 --> 15:22.300 position:10% line:50% size:80%
to the subject matter.

15:22.400 --> 15:24.133 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Now, what do you have here?

15:24.234 --> 15:26.567 position:10% line:50% size:80%
COLLECTOR: It's a picture
of Pimlico Racetrack.

15:26.667 --> 15:28.634 position:10% line:50% size:80%
ROSS: And do you know
anything about it?

15:28.734 --> 15:30.701 position:10% line:50% size:80%
COLLECTOR: It belongs to a
friend of mine who could not be

15:30.801 --> 15:34.701 position:10% line:50% size:80%
here today and he was interested
in finding out more about it

15:34.801 --> 15:35.901 position:10% line:50% size:80%
himself.

15:36.000 --> 15:38.200 position:10% line:50% size:80%
ROSS: Now here we have
one of the most locally historic

15:38.300 --> 15:43.200 position:10% line:50% size:80%
location and also a
nationally important location.

15:43.300 --> 15:45.634 position:10% line:50% size:80%
This is the first time that
I have actually ever seen

15:45.734 --> 15:48.767 position:10% line:50% size:80%
a panoramic photograph
done of Pimlico.

15:48.868 --> 15:51.767 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Now, Pimlico actually gets its
name going back to colonial

15:51.868 --> 15:55.667 position:10% line:50% size:80%
times, was named by- the early
English settlers,

15:55.767 --> 15:59.300 position:10% line:50% size:80%
named after a popular
tavern in London.

15:59.400 --> 16:00.667 position:10% line:50% size:80%
COLLECTOR: Really?

16:00.767 --> 16:06.234 position:10% line:50% size:80%
ROSS: And in 1870 the racecourse
was opened and actually now

16:06.334 --> 16:10.701 position:10% line:50% size:80%
is the second oldest racetrack
for horses in the United States

16:10.801 --> 16:12.334 position:10% line:50% size:80%
behind Saratoga.

16:12.434 --> 16:16.167 position:10% line:50% size:80%
The race, they had a dinner
party, Stakes, they called it,

16:16.267 --> 16:18.868 position:10% line:50% size:80%
race was one of the biggest
races they had that year,

16:18.968 --> 16:23.701 position:10% line:50% size:80%
and the horse that won it was
named Preakness and it has now

16:23.801 --> 16:26.901 position:10% line:50% size:80%
been called the Preakness Stakes
race ever since.

16:27.000 --> 16:28.133 position:10% line:50% size:80%
COLLECTOR: Wow.

16:28.234 --> 16:30.634 position:10% line:50% size:80%
ROSS: What really interested me
was when in the world

16:30.734 --> 16:33.734 position:10% line:50% size:80%
could this have been taken
because there's a lot of

16:33.834 --> 16:35.033 position:10% line:50% size:80%
people there.

16:35.133 --> 16:38.968 position:10% line:50% size:80%
We see some of the landmarks
that are actually gone today.

16:39.067 --> 16:43.901 position:10% line:50% size:80%
On the far side of the left
we have the old club house.

16:44.000 --> 16:48.601 position:10% line:50% size:80%
That burned down in 1966 and
that belonged to the Maryland

16:48.701 --> 16:52.133 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Jockey Club who have
owned the race site.

16:52.234 --> 16:54.868 position:10% line:50% size:80%
The old grand stand we
see here in the middle,

16:54.968 --> 16:57.067 position:10% line:50% size:80%
which certainly has all
been modified today,

16:57.167 --> 16:59.567 position:10% line:50% size:80%
and places that are
not there today.

16:59.667 --> 17:01.767 position:10% line:50% size:80%
So we know it has
some aging to it.

17:01.868 --> 17:04.601 position:10% line:50% size:80%
I was thinking maybe it was the
Preakness and usually that's

17:04.701 --> 17:07.868 position:10% line:50% size:80%
like in the spring, but when you
look at audience very carefully,

17:07.968 --> 17:10.801 position:10% line:50% size:80%
I notice that there, a lot
of men are wearing overcoats,

17:10.901 --> 17:12.667 position:10% line:50% size:80%
and I was kind of
surprised with that.

17:12.767 --> 17:16.334 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Something is going on because
they're all looking down to the

17:16.434 --> 17:19.901 position:10% line:50% size:80%
right hand side of the field,
and if you look very, very,

17:20.000 --> 17:23.868 position:10% line:50% size:80%
very carefully, a blur down
on the far right hand side.

17:23.968 --> 17:28.968 position:10% line:50% size:80%
A race is going on that has
been captured in motion.

17:29.067 --> 17:31.200 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Also the name of the
photographer, Brown,

17:31.300 --> 17:34.601 position:10% line:50% size:80%
was a photographer who
specialized in panoramic

17:34.701 --> 17:36.701 position:10% line:50% size:80%
photographs in Washington, D.C.

17:36.801 --> 17:39.367 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Then going online and doing some
further research,

17:39.467 --> 17:41.100 position:10% line:50% size:80%
I found that at the
University of Maryland

17:41.200 --> 17:43.901 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Baltimore County, in their
collection they have

17:44.000 --> 17:48.167 position:10% line:50% size:80%
a glass plate negative copy
of this photograph.

17:48.267 --> 17:49.400 position:10% line:50% size:80%
COLLECTOR: Wow.

17:49.501 --> 17:51.000 position:10% line:50% size:80%
ROSS: Not the glass plate
that the image was made from.

17:51.100 --> 17:54.000 position:10% line:50% size:80%
This was made from a panoramic
camera but there was a glass

17:54.100 --> 17:57.300 position:10% line:50% size:80%
plate copy in their collection,
and written on the sleeve

17:57.400 --> 18:02.133 position:10% line:50% size:80%
for the glass plate was a
date of December 1921.

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Next place that you go
is to the newspapers.

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Now, it's amazing with the
amount of information that you

18:07.100 --> 18:10.534 position:10% line:50% size:80%
have online: websites that
have complete runs of digital

18:10.634 --> 18:12.100 position:10% line:50% size:80%
newspapers from the past.

18:12.200 --> 18:15.300 position:10% line:50% size:80%
I went looking December 1921
in the Sun Papers

18:15.400 --> 18:16.634 position:10% line:50% size:80%
to see what happened.

18:16.734 --> 18:20.334 position:10% line:50% size:80%
All the racing that was going on
at that time had moved south.

18:20.434 --> 18:23.901 position:10% line:50% size:80%
So backtracking to
November 5th of 1921,

18:24.000 --> 18:28.234 position:10% line:50% size:80%
they had a race there at Pimlico
that was better attended

18:28.334 --> 18:30.868 position:10% line:50% size:80%
than the Preakness that spring.

18:30.968 --> 18:36.834 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Over 21,000 people came to see
a horse named Morvich run.

18:36.934 --> 18:42.267 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Morvich was a two year old and
this was a futurity race

18:42.367 --> 18:44.767 position:10% line:50% size:80%
that they had I guess just
for two year olds.

18:44.868 --> 18:49.100 position:10% line:50% size:80%
The horse had been in ten races
previously, had won them all.

18:49.200 --> 18:50.300 position:10% line:50% size:80%
COLLECTOR: Wow.

18:50.400 --> 18:51.968 position:10% line:50% size:80%
ROSS: And people were
hoping that this was going to be

18:52.067 --> 18:56.667 position:10% line:50% size:80%
the next Man o' War who had
just preceded all of this.

18:56.767 --> 19:01.167 position:10% line:50% size:80%
So people turned out that day
for this race and it was also

19:01.267 --> 19:04.734 position:10% line:50% size:80%
the biggest purse for a race
in Maryland there in 1921.

19:04.834 --> 19:06.000 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Off they went.

19:06.100 --> 19:09.801 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Morvich actually stayed behind
halfway through the race.

19:09.901 --> 19:14.200 position:10% line:50% size:80%
As they got past the midpoint,
jockey turned him on and away

19:14.300 --> 19:16.300 position:10% line:50% size:80%
he went and he ended up winning.

19:16.400 --> 19:20.801 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Purse that he won,
42,750 dollars.

19:20.901 --> 19:23.901 position:10% line:50% size:80%
This is the front page
from the Sun Papers

19:24.000 --> 19:26.000 position:10% line:50% size:80%
reporting about the race.

19:26.100 --> 19:28.334 position:10% line:50% size:80%
That was the biggest purse at
the time and the writer for the

19:28.434 --> 19:32.868 position:10% line:50% size:80%
newspaper had mentioned that
this was more money than

19:32.968 --> 19:37.033 position:10% line:50% size:80%
ten average workers with a
college graduation would make

19:37.133 --> 19:38.267 position:10% line:50% size:80%
in a year.

19:38.367 --> 19:41.634 position:10% line:50% size:80%
So they made a big deal about
the owner of this horse

19:41.734 --> 19:43.901 position:10% line:50% size:80%
being able to pocket
all that money.

19:44.000 --> 19:45.033 position:10% line:50% size:80%
COLLECTOR: I'll bet.

19:45.133 --> 19:47.300 position:10% line:50% size:80%
ROSS: The horse went on to win
the Kentucky Derby

19:47.400 --> 19:50.834 position:10% line:50% size:80%
and everybody thought this is
really going to be something.

19:50.934 --> 19:55.367 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Then after that the horse
didn't win any more races.

19:55.467 --> 19:59.300 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Didn't win any more races, and
later they attributed it,

19:59.400 --> 20:03.100 position:10% line:50% size:80%
maybe he had problems with
his ankles or with his leg,

20:03.200 --> 20:04.234 position:10% line:50% size:80%
or something like that.

20:04.334 --> 20:05.434 position:10% line:50% size:80%
COLLECTOR:
Still quite a history.

20:05.534 --> 20:07.901 position:10% line:50% size:80%
ROSS: Yeah, quite a history
for finally being able to

20:08.000 --> 20:11.634 position:10% line:50% size:80%
nail down when I believe
this photograph was taken.

20:11.734 --> 20:15.367 position:10% line:50% size:80%
So, had any valuation been put
on this photograph

20:15.467 --> 20:16.601 position:10% line:50% size:80%
that you know of?

20:16.701 --> 20:17.701 position:10% line:50% size:80%
COLLECTOR: Not that I know of.

20:17.801 --> 20:20.601 position:10% line:50% size:80%
ROSS: Knowing what we can
connect to now,

20:20.701 --> 20:25.501 position:10% line:50% size:80%
I would say probably at least
750 to 1500 dollars,

20:25.601 --> 20:30.434 position:10% line:50% size:80%
or more because this not only
is a historical document,

20:30.534 --> 20:34.634 position:10% line:50% size:80%
but also crosses over into those
people who are interested in

20:34.734 --> 20:38.534 position:10% line:50% size:80%
horse racing and related
memorabilia and the history of

20:38.634 --> 20:42.100 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Pimlico now that we know what
it's connected with

20:42.200 --> 20:45.701 position:10% line:50% size:80%
that the valuation could
really go from there.

20:45.801 --> 20:48.267 position:10% line:50% size:80%
All you need is two people
who want it really bad.

20:48.367 --> 20:49.434 position:10% line:50% size:80%
COLLECTOR: All right.

20:49.534 --> 20:51.701 position:10% line:50% size:80%
ROSS: So I thank you
very much for bringing this

20:51.801 --> 20:56.400 position:10% line:50% size:80%
piece of history in today
for us to be able to see,

20:56.501 --> 20:59.934 position:10% line:50% size:80%
find out from the mists of
history this incredible race

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that took place for
poor Morvich, who, well,

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almost made it...
all the way to the end.

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COLLECTOR: Amazing.

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Well you're welcome and thank
you for taking the time

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and doing the research.

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It's impressive, really.

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ROSS: Thank you.

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AMORY LECUYER: I want to thank
you for coming out to

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 Chesapeake Collectibles today,
and when you walked up to my

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table and began to open this up
I knew what a wonderful little

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thing I was intrigued for.

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Can you tell me a little
bit about what you brought?

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COLLECTOR: Well, it's just a
miniature painting on ivory,

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in a tortoise shell
and ivory frame.

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Not original frame, and I
got it at a second hand shop.

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AMORY: You got this at a
second hand shop?

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COLLECTOR: Yep.

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AMORY:
Can I ask for how much?

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COLLECTOR: Ten dollars.

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Plus tax.

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AMORY: I want to go
shopping with you.

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COLLECTOR: Okay.

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AMORY: All right,
this is kind of an interesting

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moment.

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What we have here,
we do have ivory.

21:59.234 --> 22:02.501 position:10% line:50% size:80%
Now ivory is a highly
controversial topic around our

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industry these days because of
certain bans that are in place,

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and while we could look at this
and say because of the artist,

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because of the portrait, because
of the style it dates probably

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late 1700's, early 1800's.

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COLLECTOR:
I would think so, yes.

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AMORY: That is not enough
in most cases to satisfy

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the current climate of
regulation and requirement

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to make it safe to sell.

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COLLECTOR: Right.

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AMORY: Now, you could sell it
to your neighbor

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across the street and
that's no problem.

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You give it to me to sell to
your neighbor across the street

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at auction, that's where the
problem begins to be created.

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It is on ivory.

22:49.100 --> 22:53.434 position:10% line:50% size:80%
It is a wonderful portrait
of a royal female.

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It is signed by Fuge, and if it
were not in this controversial

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category right now, at auction I
would be looking for this to do

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maybe between
500 and 700 dollars.

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Miniature portrait, particularly
one of this quality,

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is just pretty exceptional.

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The detail work on here is
exactly what you'd want to see.

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Wonderful subject matter,
and prior to the controversy

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surrounding the ivory, the ivory
would have added another premium

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value.

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In today's market it
is very controversial.

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I'm glad you didn't pay...
I mean the 10 dollars

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certainly worth that just to
hang it on the wall at home,

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but it may be something where
the attitude toward particularly

23:45.901 --> 23:49.534 position:10% line:50% size:80%
older pieces like this in the
future is going to change,

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and then that's where you're
going to be able to reap

23:51.667 --> 23:55.000 position:10% line:50% size:80%
the benefit of some really
brilliant buying.

23:55.100 --> 23:56.868 position:10% line:50% size:80%
AMORY: But I want to thank you
for coming out because

23:56.968 --> 23:59.667 position:10% line:50% size:80%
it's one of a...
extraordinary piece.

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COLLECTOR: Well thank you.

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[Background chatter]

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RHEA:
We've come to the end of another

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 Chesapeake Collectibles and
it's really been fun.

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You're never going to guess what
we have planned for next week.

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Here's a sample.

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ROSS: When I saw this,
really knocked me out.

24:20.300 --> 24:24.033 position:10% line:50% size:80%
It is an important moment
in Maryland history,

24:24.133 --> 24:27.868 position:10% line:50% size:80%
in Baltimore history,
and in photographic history.

24:27.968 --> 24:31.501 position:10% line:50% size:80%
JERRY: A pistol like this
sort of can speak for itself.

24:31.601 --> 24:35.434 position:10% line:50% size:80%
It's got a history that
it's wanting to tell you.

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COLLECTOR: My heavens.

24:36.701 --> 24:38.734 position:10% line:50% size:80%
COLLEEN: Oh yeah, with
the pieces of the turquoise,

24:38.834 --> 24:41.434 position:10% line:50% size:80%
the corral and the
bear claw on that one,

24:41.534 --> 24:44.100 position:10% line:50% size:80%
I haven't seen something
like this is a long time.

24:44.200 --> 24:47.100 position:10% line:50% size:80%
COLLECTOR: When I buy a
piece of art, I go by, (gasps).

24:47.200 --> 24:50.300 position:10% line:50% size:80%
That's the reaction so I must
get it and I encountered

24:50.400 --> 24:52.734 position:10% line:50% size:80%
this piece and I had a big,
(gasps).

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RHEA: Thank you for watching
 Chesapeake Collectibles .

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I'm your host,
Rhea Feikin.

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Goodnight, and we'll
see you next time.

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