"CHARLOTTESVILLE INSIDE-OUT,"

COMMITTED TO EXPLORING THE

PEOPLE, PLACES AND QUALITY OF

LIFE THAT UNIQUELY DEFINE

CHARLOTTESVILLE AND ITS

SURROUNDINGS.

AND BY VIEWERS LIKE YOU.

 

THANK YOU.

>> I DON'T REALIZE HARVEY IS 88

YEARS OLD.

I REMEMBER IN HIGH SCHOOL,

SCOUTS AND THE UNIVERSITY.

>> TERRI ALLARD: FOR WHTJ, I'M

TERRI ALLARD AND THIS IS

 

"CHARLOTTESVILLE INSIDE-OUT."

♪♪♪♪

>> GOOD JOB KEEPING THE BLADES

OFF THE WATER THERE, YOU ONLY

NEED AN INCH OFF THE WATER, GOOD

JOB.

>> TODAY WE'RE GOING TO LEARN

ABOUT A GROUP THAT PROVIDES

ORGANIZED INSTRUCTION AND

PARTICIPATION FOR PEOPLE OF ALL

LEVELS AND EXPERIENCE IN AN

EXCITING OLYMPIC WATER SPORT

THAT DATES BACK TO ANCIENT

EGYPTIAN TIMES.

JOIN US AS WE VISIT THE RIVANNA

 

ROWING CLUB, COME ON!

>> THEY'RE PEOPLE HERE FROM ALL

KINDS OF AREAS OF

CHARLOTTESVILLE, ALL WALKS OF

LIFE AND THIS IS SORT OF THE

GREAT LEVELER OUT HERE.

YOU CAN BE HOTSY TOTSY OUT THERE

AND YOU CAN COME HERE AND YOU'RE

STILL STRUGGLING FOR THE STROKE

SO IT'S A WONDERFUL COMBINATION.

>> I'D SAY THE MOST CHALLENGING

PART OF BEING A SKULLER IS THAT

YOU ONLY HAVE YOURSELF TO BLAME

IF THINGS DON'T GO WELL.

YOU CAN USUALLY FIGURE OUT WHATS

GOING WRONG IF IT'S NOT SET

RIGHT OR YOU'RE A LITTLE

OFF-BALANCE OR YOU'RE NOT GOING

AS FAST AS YOU WANT TO GO.

AS I LIKE TO SAY MY BOAT IS A

LOT FASTER THAN I AM.

>> TERRI: SO JOHN, WHAT'S

INVOLVED IN THE SPORT OF ROWING,

HOW DOES IT WORK?

>> JOHN: BASICALLY YOU'VE GOT A

PERSON OR PEOPLE IN A BOAT USING

OARS TO MAKE THE BOAT GO.

>> TERRI: OKAY, SO THERE'S TWO

DIFFERENT WAYS.

YOU COULD HAVE JUST ONE - ONE

PARTICIPANT.

AND THEN HOW MANY ARE IN THE

BOAT?

>> JOHN: SO FOR OUR, OUR

MASTER'S PROGRAMS WE HAVE, WE

USE SUITE BOATS WHICH IS EVERY

PERSON HAS ONE OAR AND THAT'S

WHAT WE WOULD SEE IN COLLEGE

TEAMS OR IN THE OLYMPICS.

THAT'S WHAT OUR LEARNED TO ROW

PROGRAM USES IN WHICH CASE YOU

TYPICALLY HAVE FOUR TO EIGHT

PEOPLE IN A BOAT MAKING IT GO.

>> TERRI: WHAT IS THE LEARN TO

ROW PROGRAM?

>> JOHN: SO IT'S A PROGRAM WE

HAVE EVERY SPRING, IT'S SORT OF

THE MAIN, OUR MAIN FOCUS OF THE

COMMUNITY TO GET PEOPLE EXPOSED

TO ROWING, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF

SESSIONS BOTH MORNING AND

EVENING WHERE PEOPLE WHO HAVE

NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE CAN COME

OUT AND LEARN TO DO THE STROKE

FIRST ON THE ROWING MACHINE AND

ULTIMATELY END UP IN ONE OF

THESE BIG BOATS DOING IT

THEMSELVES.

>> ASHLEY GALE: COME ON,

EXAGGERATE IT, I WANT TO SEE

SOME BACKSPLASH HERE.

THERE WE GO!

>> CATHY O'HARA: I JUST STARTED

ROWING THIS SUMMER IN THE LEARN

TO ROW PROGRAM.

IT'S A LOT OF MULTI-TASKING,

PULLING IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION

AND DOING THIS AND IT'S HARD.

>> ASHLEY GALE: SO WE'VE HAD

SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE KIND OF

CONFUSED ABOUT SWITCHING BETWEEN

DIFFERENT ROWERS.

SO WE DO A LOT OF WORK WITH LESS

THAN A FULL BOAT BECAUSE IT

KEEPS THE BOAT MORE STABLE, KIND

OF LIKE TRAINING WHEELS BECAUSE

THE OARS ON THE WATER ARE LIKE

THE TRAINING WHEELS RIGHT NOW

AND WE CAN, THEY CAN FOCUS ON

THEIR TECHNIQUE WITHOUT HAVING

TO WORRY ABOUT KEEPING IT SET

BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S A

REALLY SKINNY BOAT, IT'S HARD TO

KEEP STABLE.

>> DAVID PATTERSON: THE COOL

THING ABOUT THE BOATS IS THAT

THEY ARE RAZOR THIN, YOU'RE ON

THE WATER AND YOU'RE GOING LEFT

AND RIGHT A WHOLE BUNCH SO

KEEPING YOUR BALANCE IS

IMPORTANT.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT YOU HAVE

YOUR FEET STRAPPED IN TO THE

BOAT SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY FIRMLY

TIED DOWN IN TO THE BOAT,

ANOTHER NEAT PART IS THAT THE

SEAT ACTUALLY ROLLS BACK AND

FORTH SO IT'S A REALLY COOL

CONTRAPTION BUT WHEN IT COMES

TOGETHER, IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

>> TERRI: SO WHAT ARE THE ROLES

WHEN YOU HAVE FOUR OR EIGHT

DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN A BOAT?

>> JOHN: BASICALLY, IT'S VERY

MUCH A TEAM SPORT WHERE

EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR

MOVING TOGETHER, KEEPING THE

OARS LEVEL SO THAT THE BOAT SITS

EVEN SO IT'S NOT GOING TO ONE

SIDE OR THE OTHER.

EVERYBODY'S JOB IS TO PUSH HARD

WHEN THE OARS ARE IN THE WATER

TO MAKE THE BOAT GO FAST.

AT A HIGHER LEVEL, THE MORE

AT A HIGHER LEVEL, THE MORE

TECHNICAL PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE

WHO ARE GOOD AT SETTING A

CONSTANT STROKE RATE WILL BE IN

THE FRONT.

YOU GET THROWN ALL OVER THE

PLACE IN THE BOAT.

>> TERRI: SO, SO WHO IS ELIGIBLE

TO BE MEMBER OF THE CLUB AND

ROW HERE?

>> JOHN: ANYBODY WHO CAN SWIM

AND HELP CARRY A BOAT.

WE START AT AGE 13, SO WE HAVE

JUNIOR PROGRAMS THAT ARE FOR

TEENAGERS.

WE HAVE ADULT MEMBERS OF THE

CLUB WELL IN TO THEIR 80S.

SO YOU KNOW ANEVERYONE FROM IN

BETWEEN.

>> TERRI: YOU GOT MEN, YOU GOT

WOMEN, YOU GOT PEOPLE WHO ARE

DOCTORS, PEOPLE WHO ARE

TEACHERS, ALL MEMBERS OF THE

COMMUNITY COME.

>> JOHN: YEAH, IT'S A GREAT

GROUP OF PEOPLE.

A LOT OF FUN AND I LOST MY TRAIN

IT'S A FUN GROUP OF PEOPLE TO BE

AROUND.

>> TERRI: IT'S CHALLENGING

PHYSICALLY AND ALSO MENTALLY,

RIGHT?

TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

>> JOHN: YEAH, SO IT WAS ONE OF

THE THINGS THAT WAS MOST

SURPRISING TO ME WAS HOW

DIFFICULT IT WAS MENTALLY.

THERE ARE SO MANY MOVING PARTS

AT A TIME IN TERMS OF WHERE YOUR

BODY IS, WHAT YOUR HANDS ARE

DOING WITH THE OAR, TRYING TO

KEEP TIME WITH THE PEOPLE IN

FRONT OF YOU THAT WHAT I THOUGHT

WOULD BE RELATIVELY STRAIGHT

FORWARD TURNED OUT TO BE VERY

DIFFICULT.

>> THINK OF YOUR HIPS LIKE A LEG

YEOMAN.

>> CATHY O'HARA: THE COXSWAIN

GENERALLY TELLS THE 8 IN THE

BOAT WHAT TO DO, HOW TO STEER,

AND THEY ALSO SET THE RATE OF

SPEED AND STROKE AND ALL OF

THAT.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT LIKE A COACH

IN THE BOAT.

>> MARY MAHER: I LIKE THE POWER

OF THE BIG BOATS, I LIKE THE

GROUP COMPETITION AND THE GROUP

COACHING BUT THE SKULLING BOATS,

THEY'RE EVERY BIT AS POWERFUL

BUT IT'S SORT OF A DIFFERENT

ANIMAL.

IT'S MORE SOLITARY, ESPECIALLY

WHEN YOU'RE IN A SINGLE, THE

BOATS ARE SMALLER.

OUT HERE YOU CAN COME OUT AND

SKULL ANYTIME YOU WANT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE IN A

PROGRAM, I SKULL ALMOST

YEAR-ROUND.

I'M ONE OF THE HARDCORE

ICEBREAKERS.

>> SEAN CARR: YOU CAN PICK UP

ROWING AT ANY POINT IN LIFE FOR

DECADES TO COME AND I LOVE THE

PEACE, THE SOLITUDE, THE

SERENITY, AND THE INTENSITY AT

COMES WITH BEING OUT ON THE

WATER AND IN NATURE AND BEING

ABLE TO DO THAT, ESPECIALLY HERE

IN CHARLOTTESVILLE, JUST ABOUT

ANY DAY OF THE YEAR.

>> ASHLEY GALE: LENGTHEN IT OUT,

EVEN IF YOU HAVE SHORTER LEGS

YOU CAN STILL PULL LONGER AND

PRESS ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

GET FULL PRESS.

KEEP THE BLADE IN THE WATER THE

WHOLE WAY AND THEN PULL IT OUT

AT THE LAST SECOND.

>> TERRI: AND TALK ABOUT THE

DIFFERENT CLASSES THAT ARE

OFFERED SO THAT -- BECAUSE

ANYONE CAN BE A PART OF THIS.

>> JOHN: YEAH, SO WE HAVE LEARN

TO ROW WHICH AGAIN IS FOR PEOPLE

WHO HAVE NEVER DONE IT BEFORE

AND THEN THOSE PEOPLE CAN MOVE

INTO OUR INTERMEDIATE PROGRAM

WHICH IS FOR YOU KNOW AS AGAIN

FOR ADULTS WHO HAVE ONE OR TWO

YEARS' EXPERIENCE AND WANT TO

GET MORE TECHNICAL WORK AND THEN

WE HAVE A REGULAR MASTER'S

PROGRAM WHICH IS BOTH A

COMPETITIVE AND FOR PEOPLE WHO

JUST WANT TO GET A GOOD WORKOUT

EARLY IN THE MORNING OR LATE AT

NITE.

OR LATE AT NIGHT.

>> TERRI: AND WHEN YOU TALK

ABOUT COMPETITIVE, HOW DO THEY

COMPETE?

>> JOHN: SO WE TYPICALLY SEND

BOATS TO A COUPLE OF REGATTAS IN

THE STATE, SOMETIMES TO ONE

FURTHER OUT.

WE HAVE TRAILER THAT WE CAN PUT

OUR BOATS ON AND DRAG THEM TO

AND THOSE ARE A LOT OF FUN --

WHEN WE GET TO RACE.

>> TERRI: YEAH, TALK ABOUT THIS

AMAZING FACILITY, WHERE YOU HAVE

YOUR BOATS AND THE WATER AND YOU

GUYS ROW.

>> JOHN: YEAH, WE'RE REALLY

LUCKY.

THE VIRGINIA ROWING ASSOCIATION

OWNS THE LAND AND THE BOATHOUSE

AND WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO

SHARE THE FACILITY WITH THE

VIRGINIA MEN'S PROGRAM WHICH IS

SPONSORED BY THE VRA AND WITH

THE VIRGINIA WOMEN'S TEAM SO WE

GET ACCESS WITH JUST A

WORLD-CLASS FACILITY WITH

BEAUTIFUL BOATS, AND THEN THE

WATER IS JUST SPECTACULAR.

WE'VE GOT ABOUT FIVE MILES OF

VERY SMOOTH WELL-PROTECTED

WATER, WE CAN GO A MILE AND A

HALF DOWN TO THE DAM OR ANOTHER

THREE AND A HALF MILES UP TOWARD

GREY'S FORWARD ROW.

>> TERRI: AND YOU HAVE ROWING

MACHINES, YOU HAVE A ROWING

MACHINE ROOM THAT YOU HAVE

ACCESS TO THAT'S PART OF THE

UNIVERSITY.

>> JOHN: YEAH, SO THAT'S

PRIMARILY USED BY THE

UNDERGRADUATES BUT WE DO USE IT

SOME FOR TRAINING AND WORKOUT

DURING THE WINTER.

>> CATHY O'HARA: THIS IS A PLACE

WHERE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS AND

COLLEGE KIDS AND ADULTS FROM THE

COMMUNITY, EVERY AGE FROM 20 TO

80, ALL COME TOGETHER, THEY ALL

WORK TOGETHER, THEY LOVE THIS

CLUB AND IT'S A GREAT COMMUNITY

RESOURCE.

>> ASHLEY GALE: HAVE YOU ALL

GOTTEN THE MICRO-PAUSE

EXPLANATION BEFORE?

NO?

OH, THIS IS EXCITING, I LIKE

DOING THIS.

WHEN YOU'RE CATCHING, WHEN

YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR BLADE IN THE

WATER, YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO

PRESS IT IN THE WATER, ALL THE

WAY THROUGH, IT ADDS LIKE A FOOT

IN EVERY STROKE, AND THAT'S FREE

SPEED IN EVERY STROKE.

WHO DOESN'T WANT FREE SPEED,

RIGHT?

>> DAVID PATTERSON: GOSH, THE

RACES ARE ALWAYS HARD BECAUSE

YOU WANT TO GO FAST BUT YOU HAVE

TO DO IT VERY SMOOTHLY SO YOU

HAVE ROWING IN RACES IS PROBABLY

THE HARDEST PART.

THE BEST PART IS JUST GETTING ON

THE WATER AND THAT'S THE BEST

PART ABOUT RRC IS THAT IT'S OPEN

TO ANYONE.

>> TERRI: SO DO MEMBERS ROW ALL

YEAR LONG OR IS THERE A LIMIT TO

WHEN YOU CAN DO IT?

>> JOHN: SOME DO.

SO WE HAVE ALL OF OUR COACH

PROGRAMS ARE DURING THE SUMMER

SO THE DOCK AND THE RIVER GETS

USED VERY HEAVILY BY THE UVA

STUDENTS WHEN THEY'RE IN

SESSION.

SO WE START AFTER GRADUATION AND

THEN WE FINISH THOSE PROGRAMS

RIGHT AROUND THEY START BACK IN

AUGUST.

AROUND THOSE TIMES WE HAVE

SHOULDER SEASON WHERE PEOPLE CAN

ROW, WE HAVE GROUPS THAT WILL DO

PREPARE FOR RACES IN THE SPRING

AND THE FALL AND DO THAT WITHOUT

A COACH.

WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE

SINGLE SKULLS THAT KEEP THEIR

BOATS HERE WHO REALLY ROW YEAR

AROUND.

WE HAVE A RULE THAT FOR THE

WINTER MONTHS -- DECEMBER,

JANUARY AND FEBRUARY -- THERE'S

ALWAYS AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE OUT

ON THE WATER FOR SAFETY.

>> TERRI: YEAH, WHAT IS IT?

IS IT THE FOUR OAR RULE?

>> JOHN: YOU KNOW IN CASE, MOST

OF THESE PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO

FLIP THEIR BOAT BUT IF THEY DID

THEY COULD GET HYPOTHERMIA IN A

HURRY SO WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE

SURE THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE THERE

BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT HERE

LITERALLY YEAR-ROUND AND YOU

USUALLY DON'T GET ICY SO A LOT

OF PEOPLE GO YEAR-ROUND.

>> TERRI: OH, THAT'S EXCITING

SO, YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE A ROWER,

TELL ME ABOUT HOW LONG YOU'VE

BEEN DOING IT AND JUST TELL ME

WHY YOU DO IT.

>> JOHN: THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION

SO, I STARTED I THINK SEVEN

YEARS AGO AND I HAD BEEN A

RUNNER FOR A WHILE AND WAS

LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO DO THAT

I COULD DO TO GET GOOD EXERCISE

THAT WOULDN'T BE BEATING UP MY

BODY SO MUCH AND I THINK THERE

ARE A FAIR NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN

THE CLUB SO THAT WAS THE CASE.

I USED TO DRIVE OVER THE BRIDGE

AND SEE THE ROWERS AND I'VE

ALWAYS LOVED WATER AND IT EMED

PERFECT.

AND THEN I CAME AND TRIED IT AND

AGAIN WAS SURPRISED AT HOW -- IN

TWO WAYS.

YOU CAN PICK UP THE BASICS VERY

QUICKLY, SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY BE

DOING IT VERY EASILY WITHIN A

FEW WEEKS OF STARTING BUT THEN

THERE'S SO MUCH TECHNICAL WORK

TO IT THAT YOU CAN KEEP GETTING

BETTER EVERY YEAR.

SO IT'S BEEN A GREAT THING AND I

THINK ALL OF US IN THE MASTER'S

PROGRAM COME BACK AND WE LEARN

NEW THINGS EVERY YEAR, GET GREAT

EXERCISE, HAVE A GOOD TIME

TOGETHER, SO IT'S REALLY BEEN A

BLAST.

>> TERRI: THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU JOHN.

>> MY PLEASURE.

>> MARY MAHER: I'VE BEEN ROWING

ABOUT 25 YEARS.

I SAW AN AD IN CVILLE FOR A

LEARN TO ROW CLASS AND I SIGNED

UP AND I BROUGHT MY DAUGHTER

WITH ME.

SHE WAS 14.

SHE HATED IT AND I LOVED IT AND

I'VE BEEN WITH IT EVER SINCE.

>> DAVID PATTERSON: IT'S GREAT

TO COME OUT AFTER WORK AND ROW

ON THE RESERVOIR, IT REALLY IS

RELAXING.

IT'S A GREAT GROUP TO BE WITH.

>> SEAN CARR: IT'S REALLY SOME

OF THE BEST WATER ON THE EAST

COAST FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO

ROW AND IT IS AMAZING THAT YOU

HAVE THIS HERE AND THAT IT'S

ESSENTIALLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

>> CATHY O'HARA: I REALLY HAVE

ENJOYED IT, AT FIRST IT'S A

LITTLE FRUSTRATING BUT ONCE YOU

GET IN TO IT AND YOU KEEP IT UP

AND YOU REALLY KEEP GOING, YOU

LEARN A LOT AND IT'S CHALLENGING

EVERY DAY.

AND THERE'S NEW SUCCESSES EVERY

DAY WITH IT.

>> ASHLEY GALE: NICELY DONE

GUYS.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A

CAMERA CREW ON YOU ALL EVERY

SINGLE PRACTICE BECAUSE THIS IS

THE BEST ROWING I'VE SEEN IN

LIKE WEEKS.

GREAT JOB!

>> SECONDARY COACH: OK, I'M

GOING TO CALL IT, FIVE STROKES,

 

CATCH!

 

♪♪♪♪

>> READY, AIM, FIRE.

[GUNSHOTS]

READY, AIM, FIRE.

AIM, FIRE.

[GUNSHOTS]

>> TERRI ALLARD: DID YOU KNOW

THAT THE VERY FIRST PUBLIC CIVIC

MEMORIAL IN THE UNITED STATES TO

HONOR VIETNAM VETERANS IS

LOCATED RIGHT HERE IN

CHARLOTTESVILLE?

JOIN US TODAY AS WE VISIT THE

HILL THAT HEALS AND LEARN ABOUT

THE DOGWOOD VIETNAM MEMORIAL

FOUNDATION.

COME ON!

>> CATON: IN VIETNAM WE LOST A

WHOLE GENERATION OF YOUNG MEN

AND WOMEN JUST LIKE MY BROTHER

WHO WOULD HAVE MADE A WONDERFUL

CONTRIBUTION TO OUR COUNTRY AND

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE

AS A COMMUNITY AND AS A NATION

RECOGNIZE OUR VETERANS AND THE

CRIFICE THEY'VE MADE.

>> JIM: IT'S LIKE WE BREATHE

LIFE BACK INTO THESE YOUNG MEN

ONE MORE TIME FOR A FEW MINUTES

AND THEIR FAMILY AND THEIR

FRIENDS ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE

TRYING TO DO AND WE'RE TRYING TO

HONOR THEIR MEMORY.

>> JIM SHISLER: THE DOGWOOD

VIETNAM MEMORIAL WAS CONCEIVED

IN A BARBER SHOP.

THE VIETNAM WAR WAS JUST GETTING

STARTED AND CHARLOTTESVILLE AND

ALBEMARLE HAD EXPERIENCED ITS

FIRST CASUALTY.

THE DEATH OF CHAMP JACKSON

LAWSON, JR.

AND WE KNEW THAT OTHER DEATHS

WOULD COME ALONG AND WE FELT

LIKE SOMETHING ELSE HAD TO BE

DONE TO HONOR THEM AND TO HONOR

THEIR FAMILIES.

AND SO WE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA

OF A MEMORIAL.

>> TERRI: PUTTING THE MEMORIAL

TOGETHER, IT WAS REQUESTED THAT

EVERYTHING IT WAS MADE WITH HAVE

HISTORICAL VALUE, BE LOCAL.

TALK ABOUT THAT.

>> JIM SHISLER: NOT EVERYTHING

BUT I PROACHED THE CITY

MANAGER JAMES E. GOIN AND TOLD

HIM WHAT OUR IDEA WAS AND HE

LIKE THAT IDEA AND HE ALSO

STRESSED THAT HE WANTED THE

MEMORIAL TO BE PLACED IN A

LOCATION THAT WAS HIGHLY VISIBLE

AND HE WANTED TO USE MATERIALS

SIGNIFICANT TO THE AREA.

HE ALSO SAID THAT THE CITY WOULD

NOT FUND ANY OF THE

CONSTRUCTION.

HOWEVER, THEY WOULD ACCEPT

MAINTENANCE OF IT IN THEIR

NORMAL OPERATION.

>> TERRI: BRUCE, AS THE

PRESIDENT OF THE FOUNDATION AND

AS A VIETNAM VETERAN, YOU REFER

TO THE MEMORIAL AS THE HILL THAT

HEALS.

TALK ABOUT THAT.

>> BRUCE EADES: THAT'S CORRECT,

TERRI.

IT HAS BEEN THE HILL THAT HEALS

FOR ME AND PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF

THIS GENTLEMAN TO MY LEFT, JIM

SHISLER, ASKED ME TO SPEAK AT

THE MEMORIAL IN 1995.

I'D MOVED -- I'D RECENTLY MOVED

BACK TO CHARLOTTESVILLE.

I HAD NOT TALK ABOUT VIETNAM TO

ANYONE FOR 20, ALMOST 30 YEARS

ACTUALLY.

>> TERRI: YOU WENT TO LANE HIGH

SCHOOL.

>> BRUCE EADES: I DID.

>> TERRI: YOU WENT TO UVA FOR A

FEW YEARS.

>> BRUCE EADES: I ONLY WENT FOR

ONE YEAR.

ENGINEERING SCHOOL.

AND I WASN'T DOING WELL AND THE

DRAFT WAS KNOCKING ON MY DOOR SO

I JOINED THE MARINE CORPS.

>> TERRI: AND THEN WHEN YOU

RETURNED YOU NEVER TALKED ABOUT

IT.

>> BRUCE EADES: I BLENDED IN.

I TURNED INTO A WEEKEND HIPPIE

YOU MIGHT SAY.

>> TERRI: YOU HAD THE VW VAN.

>> BRUCE EADES: I HAD THE VW VAN

WITH THE TYE-DYE CURTAINS.

I HAD A HARLEY CHOPPER AND I

PLAYED THE PART OF THE OPPOSITE

OF A VIETNAM VET BECAUSE I

DIDN'T WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED

WITH THE STIGMA.

I WROTE IN THIS THING, THIS

SPEECH, THAT BECAUSE OF THE

STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH VIETNAM.

I, LIKE MANY OTHERS, RARELY

SPOKE OF MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE

IN VIETNAM.

I KEPT THOSE MEMORIES SEALED

INSIDE ME NOT REVEALING THEM TO

ANYONE.

I HID MY TEARS WHEN I REMEMBERED

MY FALLEN FRIENDS.

I STOOD FOR A MOMENT AND THOUGHT

HOW APPROPRIATE IT WAS THAT

JIMMY'S RESTING PLACE WAS NEAR

THE BIRTHPLACE OF OUR NATION'S

DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE

RIGHT THERAT MONTICELLO

MOUNTAIN.

SO I GUESS JIM SHISLER STARTED

MY HEALING PROCESS AND THE HILL

HAS CONTINUED AS I FOCUS TO HELP

JIM WITH HIS WORK HERE.

THESE FAMILIES COME FROM A LONG

WAYS.

IT'S VERY MEANINGFUL.

>> RUGGLES: I AM HERE TO HONOR

MY FATHER AND HIS MEMORY.

THEY TAT ME LIKE ROYALTY AND

MY FAMILY LIKE ROYALTY WHEN I

COME HERE, BUT I TELL YOU, IT'S

THEM THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN

THAT SERVED AND DURING THAT

TIME.

IT WAS REALLY, REALLY TOUGH FOR

THEM.

>> JEAN SEAL: MY SWEETHEART IN

HIGH SCHOOL WENT TO VIETNAM IN

1969 AND HE WAS KILLED

FEBRUARY 14th, 1970.

AND I HAVE BEEN COMING TO THIS

MEMORIAL FOR ONLY 3 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE IT AS A

HEALING PROCESS BECAUSE I'VE

NEVER REALLY DONE THAT.

AND IT'S EVEN AFTER ALL THESE

YEARS, IT'S VERY HARD.

>> COL. JAMES T. O'KELLEY: TODAY

I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO TALK TO

YOU ABOUT FOUR YOUNG MEN WHO

GAVE THEIR LIVES IN VIETNAM.

>> TERRI: ONE OF THE EVENTS THAT

HAPPENS ON THE HILL EVERY YEAR

IS THE REDEDICATION CEREMONY.

LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

WHAT HAPPENS.

>> BRUCE EADES: WHEN I FIRST

STARTED HELPING JIM, HE'D BEEN,

FOR FORTY YEARS HE'D BEEN

BUILDING A STAGE, MOSTLY BY

HIMSELF.

>> TERRI: PUTTING A STAGE

TOGETHER FOR EACH FOR EACH

DEDICATION CEREMONY; REBUILDING

A STAGE.

>> BRUCE EADES: HE'S STILL A

STOUT MAN BUT HE DID NEED A

LITTLE HELP.

HE'LL ADMIT TO THAT.

SO I DID SEE HIM OUT THERE WITH

THAT AND STARTED HELPING HIM AND

VOLUNTEERING AND CUTTING THE

GRASS AROUND THE MEMORIAL UNTIL

2014.

>> JIM SHISLER: YES.

WHEN THE EXTENSION OF McINTIRE

ROAD AND THE ULTIMATE

INTERCHANGE REDESIGN FINALLY

CAME ABOUT AND FUNDING BECOMING

AVAILABLE I WAS ASKED TO JOIN

AND ASKED BRUCE TO JOIN WITH ME.

AND WE WORKED FOR ABOUT FIVE

YEARS BUT OUR REAL PURPOSE,

BRUCE'S AND MINE, WAS TO

PRESERVE AND TO GREATEN THE

DOGWOOD VIETNAM MEMORIAL.

MOSTLY TO PRESERVE IT.

>> TERRI: NOW, JIM CARPENTER,

LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

HOW IT HAS CHANGED OVER THE

YEARS.

IT REALLY HAS CHANGED,

ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW ROAD

GOING AROUND BUT TALK ABOUT WHAT

THE MEMORIAL LOOKS LIKE TODAY.

>> JIM CARPENTER: OH, ABSOLUTELY

BEAUTIFUL ON THAT HILLSIDE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE USED TO GO UP

THERE FOR THE DOGWOOD FESTIVAL

THE YOUNG LADIES WOULD HAVE

HEALS ON AND THEY WERE BASICALLY

AERATING UP THERE ON THE

HILLSIDE.

IT WAS VERY STEEP, HARD TO GET

TO, BUT NOW IT'S FLAT, IT HAS

CONCRETE.

IT'S JUST BEAUTIFUL UP THERE.

BUT WHEN IT CAME TO THESE

PLAQUES WE ACTUALLY COULD TELL

THEM WHO THIS PERSON WAS.

I HAD A FIRST COUSIN WHO WAS

KILLED IN VIETNAM FROM

BARBOURSVILLE, VIRGINIA.

I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHO HE

REALLY WAS AND ALL I KNOW IS

THERE'S A MARKER THERE IN

BARBOURSVILLE.

AND NOW WHEN PEOPLE COME THEY

CAN READ A LITTLE BIT AND SAY

THIS IS --.••

>> JIM SHISLER: THERE'S A

PHOTOGRAPH OF THE FALLEN ON

THERE.

>> JIM CARPENTER: WE CAN

DESCRIBE WHAT THEIR DASH IS

ABOUT, BETWEEN THEIR BIRTH DATE

AND THEIR DEATH DATE.

>> BRUCE EADES: WE DO REMEMBER

OSCAR MAUTERUR WHO WAS A

POW/MIA.

HIS PLAQUE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT

IS NOT BEHIND THE WALL.

IT IS OVER BY THE POW/MIA FLAG.

>> TERRI: WELL, AND THAT REMINDS

ME OF SOMETHING YOU SAID

EARLIER, JIM.

YOU HAD A RELATIONSHIP IN SOME

WAY WITH AT LEAST NINE OF THE 28

VETERANS.

>> JIM SHISLER: NINE.

ONE OF THEM WAS HARVEY MULHAUSER

WHO WAS A YEAR AND A PIECE AHEAD

OF ME IN HIGH SCHOOL.

HE AND I WERE BOTH BOY SCOUTS

TOGETHER.

>> BRUCE EADES: IT HAS CHANGED

THE LIVEOF SO MANY PEOPLE IN

CHARLOTTESVILLE.

ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE OF THE GUYS

MYSELF AT LANE HIGH SCHOOL.

AND OF COURSE AT UVA THERE WERE

EIGHT PEOPLE FROM UVA ROTC.

YOU KNOW THE DRAFT WAS IN EFFECT

AND OUT OF THE 58,312 THAT WE

LOST IN VIETNAM, THREE TIMES

THAT MANY VIETNAM VETS HAVE

COMMITTED SUICIDE SINCE THEN.

[POLICE SIREN]

>> JOAN EADES: IT IS VERY

IMPORTANT TO HAVE A WELCOME HOME

PARADE.

THESE MEN ARE IN THEIR LATE

60S AND 70S AND THEY FINALLY

FEEL LIKE THEY DID SOMETHING

HONORABLE FOR OUR COUNTRY.

AND THEY ARE JUST A VERY SPECIAL

BREED OF PEOPLE THAT LOVE THEIR

COUNTRY, THEY FOUGHT FOR THEIR

COUNTRY, THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE

ASKED FOR AND WE NEED TO SUPPORT

THEM, EVEN IF IT'S 50 YEARS

LATER.

>> JULIAN TALIAFERRO: I THINK

IT'S VERY NICE TO DO THIS IN

RECOGNITION OF THE VIETNAM

VETERANS WHO ARE PROBABLY REALLY

DUE.

AND IT'S CHANGED A LOT TO WHAT

IT USED TO BE BECAUSE YOU KNOW

TODAY PEOPLE COME UP AND THANK

YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND A

NUMBER OF YEARS AGO THAT NEVER

HAPPENED YOU KNOW FOR WHATEVER

REASON.

I DON'T KNOW.

>> GENE LIVELY: IT'S

UNBELIEVABLE AFTER 50 YEARS.

I REALLY ENJOYED MYSELF.

I DIDN'T THINK THIS Y WOULD

EVER COME.

>> BRUCE EADES: WE JUST RECENTLY

HAD A PARADE AND JIM IS

RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING THE

DOGWOOD FESTIVAL TO ACTUALLY

MAKE THE VIETNAM VETERANS THE

HONORARY GRAND MARSHALL AND EVEN

THOUGH A LOT OF VIETNAM VETERANS

DIDN'T COME FORWARD AND GET IN

THE PARADE, THEY WERE WELL

REPRESENTED.

>> TERRI: YEAH, JIM, YOU HAD AN

EMAIL FROM SOMEONE AFTER, FROM A

FAMILY MEMBER AFTER THE PARADE.

>> JIM CARPENTER: I POSTED ON

FACEBOOK JUST A THANK-YOU TO ALL

THE FOLKS WHO PARTICIPATED, THE

BOY SCOUTS, THE GIRL SCOUTS

PASSING OUT OVER 3,000 FLAGS.

AND I GOT THIS NOTE BACK FROM A

LADY THAT SAID I WAS SO PROUD OF

ALL THE VETS WHO WERE IN THE

PARADE TODAY, MY HUSBAND BEING

ONE OF THEM RIDING ON THE FLOAT.

HOW IT MUST HAVE FELT WHEN A

MARINE IN FULL DRESS BLUES

WALKED UP, SHOOK HIS HAND AND

SAID, "WELCOME HOME."

>> TERRI: TALK ABOUT HOW IT'S SO

IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE WITH THIS

HEALING PROCESS.

>> BRUCE EADES: THEY DIDN'T KNOW

WHAT PTSD WAS WHEN WE CAME BACK.

IT WAS NOT ADDRESSED AT ALL.

ONE DAY WE WERE ON THE

BATTLEFIELD, AND 24 HOURS LATER

WE WERE BACK IN THE WORLD, WE

CALLED IT, WITH THE ROUND EYED

GIRLS AND QUITE FRANKLY WE JUST

DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

WE DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE.

I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO BE

THERE.

I DIDN'T WANT ANY WELCOME HOME.

I DIDN'T WANT MY PARENTS OR

ANYBODY TO THROW A PARTY FOR ME.

I LEFT AND I STILL FEEL LIKE I'M

HEALING.

PTSD HIT ME HARD AND IT'S BEEN A

PROCESS AND I THANK THIS

GENTLEMAN FOR THAT.

MY WIFE MAY DISAGREE, BUT I

THINK I'M GETTING THERE.

>> TERRI: BUT YOU HAVE, PART OF

THE FOUNDATION IS THE

CAMARADERIE, BRINGING FAMILIES

TOGETHER, BRINGING THE COMMUNITY

TOGETHER TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND

THIS WAR AND THAT EXPERIENCE.

>> JIM SHISLER: SOMETIMES IT'S

HARD TO DO BUSINESS FOR

FOUNDATION MEETINGS BECAUSE WE

GET TO RELATING EXPERIENCES.

NOT BATTLE STORIES PARTICULARLY,

BUT EXPERIENCES.

IT'S IMPORTANT.

I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO

NOTE THAT A GREAT NUMBER AND A

VAST MAJORITY OF THESE VIETNAM

VETERANS HAVE COME HOME AND BEEN

VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL IN

BUSINESS, IN PROFESSIONS AND

WHATEVER.

SO IT'S A WHOLE LOT OF GOOD THAT

IS COMING OUT OF THE VIETNAM

VETERANS.

>> BRUCE EADES: OUR VIETNAM

MEMORIAL IS DEDICATED TO ALL WHO

SERVED THE COUNTRY IN VIETNAM

AND IN PARTICULAR THOSE WHO GAVE

THEIR LIVES IN THAT SERVICE.

WE'RE JUST HOPING THAT FAMILIES

WILL TAKE A FEW MINUTES WITH

THEIR CHILDREN AND SAY THERE WAS

A WAR ONCE AND THESE FOLKS

SACRIFICED FOR THAT AND THEY DID

WHAT THEY FELT WAS THE RIGHT

THING FOR OUR COUNTRY AND

SERVED.

>> JIM SHISLER: SOMEONE ASKED ME

A FEW YEARS INTO IT, HOW LONG

WILL THIS MEMORIAL RE-DEDICATION

LAST?

AND I SAID, WELL, UNTIL THE WAR

IS OVER OR MAYBE A FEW YEARS

AFTER THAT.

THREE OR FOUR YEARS AFTER THAT.

I WAS TOTALLY WRONG.

IT'S GOING ON FROM WHEN I WAS A

YOUNG MAN TO THIS PERIOD OF MY

LIFE IT'S STILL GOING ON AND I'M

LUCKY TO BE A PART OF IT.

>> COL. JAMES T. O'KELLEY: GOD

AND THE SOLDIER ALL MEN ADORE IN

TIMES OF TROUBLE AND THEN NO

MORE.

WHEN THE WAR IS OVER AND ALL

THINGS ARE RIGHTED, GOD IS

FORGOTTEN AND THE OLD SOLDIER IS

SLIGHTED.

LET THAT NEVER HAPPEN TO THESE

YOUNG MEN AND ALL THE OTHE

YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE

SERVING OUR COUNTRY.

SEMPER FIDELIS.

 

OOH RAL.

 

[BAGPIPE PLAYS AMAZING GRACE]

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WEEK.

FOR WHTJ, I'M TERRI ALLARD.

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